#Wof rewrite pantala

[pinata-candy]

Charts relating to my WOF rewrite that I’ve been chipping away at in my brain! More details below <3

I have 1001 gripes with Pantala and arc 3, which. I know, not an original thought, but still. And I’m getting this out of the way immediately:

there is no dragon slavery in my rewrite.

I am in no position to tackle such a topic and in my opinion, neither was Tui, which may be a bit mean. I think she did a great job creating a series that so many people love but the dragon slavery is not needed and it is handled sloppily at best and very, very inappropriately at worst. I am not willing to fumble my way through a topic that is so heavy and that I do not fully understand the ramifications of and cannot ever fully understand the ramifications of. I don’t know how to write dragons dealing with being enslaved and having to figure out how to dismantle the entire social structure that did this to them and no, I don’t think saying it was a few bad dragons with some evil plant is a good enough answer for all of it. So it is being cut from my rewrite and the focus of Arc 3 (so far, always subject to change) will be just the Othermind.

But those points aside, let’s get into my Pantala thoughts!

Pantala always felt so empty to me compared to Pyrrhia, it just feels undercooked. It’s a continent of the same size but it feels like we see none of it, none of the landmarks other than the jungle, the hives, and the pit where the Othermind is feel memorable. Partially I think Pantala just was underdeveloped- the first book of arc three and the last book of arc two came out within a year of each other, it wasn’t given enough time to work itself out it seems. Another reason I think it feels so empty is because there are only three dragon tribes on it- while again, Pyrrhia is the same size and is hosting seven different tribes. Having three tribes is limiting, especially when two are living in the same environment together and the other is pushed to the furthest corner of the continent away from everything else. All action then either has to occur in the jungle or in the savanna as those are the only population centers anywhere, that’s pretty limiting- so limiting that one of the books took place BACK ON PYRRHIA because there seemed to be just so little to do on Pantala. Working out things like towns, important landmarks, etc is something I’m working on but expanding the tribe list will help me do so.

NOTE: WITH ALL THE FANTRIBES IM SURE THESE NAMES HAVE BEEN USED BEFORE AND ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE

Pantalan Tribes:

SilkWings- Colorful, four winged dragons that live in the mountainous forests on the ‘wing’ of Pantala. They can produce silk from their wrists. They undergo metamorphosis to get their wings at 7 years old

Queen: Monarch

HiveWings- Four winged dragons that do not undergo metamorphosis. They are often yellow, orange, red, or black. They have stingers on their tails and in their wrists. They live in the savannas of Pantala

Queen: Wasp

LeafWings- Two-winged dragons that live in the jungle on the head of Pantala. They come in greens and browns and are known for their Leafspeak. They are also mildly poisonous and can produce a foul-smelling mucus from their mouths.

Queen: Sequoia/ Belladonna

BeelteWings- Two-winged dragons, easily mistaken for four-winged due to their Elytra. These colorful dragons live on the 2nd wing of Pantala and are known for their strong, armored scales. They can produce a hot, acidic liquid from their tails if threatened, but this is very taxing on them.

Queen: Scarab

DamselWings- four-winged dragons, live on the tail and the tips of the claws of Pantala. These dragons come in blues, greens, purples, and pinks. They are incredibly fast, fastest of all Pantalan tribes, they have no natural defenses beyond their speed.

Queen: Meadowhawk

WebWings- no-winged dragons that live in the massive tunnels beneath Pantala. These dragons traded their flight ability for stronger silk and sturdier bodies. They come in blacks, grays, and browns. They have a venomous bite.

Queen: Widow

The tribe name for BeetleWings is also subject to change as I’m not huge on it but we’ll see.

Right now in my mind- The main conflict, prior to the discovery of the Othermind, is the HiveWing's constant grab for power. They've chased the other tribes to the edges of Pantala/ down into their tunnels through violence and shady territory deals. This issue was started by Wasp's grandmother and has persisted into the modern age. The other tribes are beginning to feel the pressures of being so condensed, their resources beginning to dwindle. Truthfully I don't have much yet. I think developing Pantala, it's tribes, and whether I'm going to take away/add tribes has to come first and all that <33

[hollowflight-propaganda]

for the send wof chars thing...

clearsight fathom and like... cricket? if possible :)

HER

I love Clearsight, and I think anybody who doesn't at least like her a little is weird

Speaking of which, the whole "Clearsight is a colonizer" thing is bullshit. I'm 100% certain that was not what Tui was going for. I admit that a lot of the Pantala stuff needs a rewrite (stuff like how the silk and hivewings split, how they speak the same language as Pyrrhia, and the racism) but Clearsight was not being actively malicious with the Pantala residents, and that wasn't supposed to be the take away. I actually find the idea of her becoming a religious figure after her death really fascinating, and I wished that was played around with some more

Anyway, everyone and their grandmother has already said this, but Darkstalker is a really good book and Clearsight is a big reason of why that's the case. She's just cool :)

I also really love Fathom! He might be my favorite out of the Darkstalker protags actually

It's hard to find something about him to talk about that hasn't been said already, so I'll save my gushing about him for another day

✨Cricket✨

She was my favorite Pantala character when the first couple books of arc 3 were out besides Blue, and I still really like her to this day!

I do admit that, again, the whole racism, slavery, and corrupt government stuff could've been dealt with a lot better. I feel like Cricket had some more potential to be a very interesting character considering she started off thinking that nothing was wrong with the way things were, until she learned about how Wasp is lying to and manipulating everyone. I love stories where the protagonist has to confront and overcome the propaganda they were taught. (aka: I'm projecting) If I for some reason rewrite arc 3 someday, I'd definitely try to focus some more on that aspect of her character

(I haven't read most of arc 3 in a while, so I don't feel I can make a strong argument about why the themes first presented in it weren't handled well, but I'll get to that someday)

Anyway, yeah! I like Cricket, I think she's fun! I'll probably have more to say about her later when I get to arc 3

ALSO, I am a staunch Blicket defender and I love them (especially my enby lesbian Blue x transfem lesbian Cricket 🥰)

I give up with the song thing rn cause I can't think of anything for these guys at the moment

[3zethe3zr]

Redesigned some dragos for my pantala rewrite :3 Swordtail is based off of the Periander Swordtail, Blue the Ceraunus Blue, and Cricket the Camel Cricket!

[imnotsurewhatimdoinging]

I have an AU where Fierceteeth leads a groups of her followers to Pantala while they try to escape persecution for being DarkStalkers allies. They find themselves welcomed excitedly by dragons who have a whole religion centered around Nightwings, mainly Clearsight. So Fierceteeth's group settles in to a life of comfort, lying that they have powers of course. 

But one of the Nightwings, Skintear, realizes that this place isn't paradise. He befriends his Silkwing servant, Luna, who opens his eyes to the inherent corruption in Pantala. After going through character development, he ends up exposing that the Nightwings have no powers, steals the Book of Clearsight and gives it to Luna before firing her. 

The rest of the arc follows the same cast from before, just without any traveling to Pyrriah. Cricket finds her dad, Blue and Luna argue about how to handle the Hivewings, and Sundew... I haven't thought of anything for her yet. The world is pretty similar to before, but the racism/genocide elements would be more thought out and explored. Probably will change how the Hivemind works, thinking more of a panic alert rather than full on mind control. 

The arc would have more of a focus on religion, truth and lies, and the inherent goodness inside a dragon. 

This is just an idea thing though, so I don’t have anything mapped out. 

Alternatively something about the Scorching or flushing out Pyrriah more would be cool.

question to the wof community, if you could choose, what would you want the third arc to be about, rather than racist slave owning bug dragons/mind controlling weed? I'm curious to hear what you all have in mind

[the-seven-wings]

Things I am adding into my rewrite of WoF:

1. Instead of there only being five Dragonets in the prophecy, I'm gonna be inclusive and have all seven tribes included, cause I like the idea of it, this also means that the Skywing egg doesn't get thrown off a cliff.

2. Only Clay and Starflight live at Jade Mountain, with Asha and Farsight teaching them both about their tribes so that they don't grow up completely cut off from where they came from, the other Dragonets all grow up in their respective Kingdoms and travel to the Talons of Peace main base once a month.

3. Morrowseer, Battlewinner, and Blister are the ones who are planning on invading the Rainforest as a way to expand the Nightwing borders and hopefully guarantee Blister gets to rule the Sandwing Desert.

4. After the events of Darkstalker, Queen Vigilance and her council make a decree that no Nightwing will ever hatch under all three moons again, with the Nightwings never leaving the talon peninsula.

5. Farsight, Starflight’s mother, was a low ranking prophet born under one moon and was the one to foresee the Dragonet prophecy, which makes it a true prophecy with not many of the other prophets believing in her visions.

6. Princess Greatness actually hates her mother Battlewinner, who isn't sitting in a pot of lava, her mother treated her harshly throughout her early life, this prompted the Nightwing Princess to reach out to the Talons of Peace.

7. Blaze is more interested in ending the war than winning it, same with Glacier both are sided with the Talons of Peace who are much more involved in the war than they are in the books.

8. The Rainwings aren't going to be completely out of it, they will actually be a part of the war with Queen Grandeur siding with Blaze, Glacier, and the Talons of Peace to stop the war.

9. Each of the tribes are going to have unique cultures, societies and multiple sub-cultures, I want the world of Pyrriah and Pantala to feel immersive and not so one-dimensional as it does feel in the books.

10. Jade Mountain is actually an abandoned palace that was formed and built by the first seven rulers of Pyrriah, but after several decades and heirs taking their place the Tribes stopped having their monthly meetings and the place fell into ruin, when the Sandwing war started the Talons of Peace set up base and made it their headquarters.

If you have any suggestions for headcanons or cultural ideas for the tribes do let me know, I am interested to see what you guys think.

[akirameta84]

love that for the wof au and any au really I can just decide nah we're not following this storyline. hm lemme rewrite this prophecy a bit too. yada yada lol

just started the jade mountain arc and I love it but im prolly not gonna include much of its concepts in the au. maybe SOME but mix and match. the lost continent arc ill have a lot more of cause some characters are species from over on pantala lol

but mostly just gonna build off of arc 1 and whatever I like for any story cause it's my au and sticking like glue to wof's plot would be boring

[frogcat7]

Queen: Favorite Tribe?

Animus: Do you have any WoF OCs?

Egg: Favorite and least favorite characters?

Rainforest: Favorite villain?

Desert: Any moments that made you laugh irl?

Ocean: Favorite part of the WoF universe?

Jade Mountain: Which character is the most like you?

Eye of Onyx: Least favorite book?

Three Moons: What are your unanswered questions about the WoF universe?

Pyrrhia: Pyrrhia or Pantala? Which is better?

Pantala: If you were a dragon, which Tribe would you be in and what would your name be?

Volcano: Favorite scene?

Camouflage: One character you wish died/hadn’t died?

Firescales: What do you think is the coolest special ability (animus, firescales, fire immunity, etc.)?

Flamesilk: Which character do you want to know more about?

Poison Jungle: Top 3 OTPs? Top 3 NOTPs?

Treasure: If your favorite character were human, what would they look like? What about their name?

Scavenger: Your favorite headcanons?

Leafspeak: Current speculations for future books?

Possibility: Would you want a movie about WoF?

Scorpion Den: What do you wish wasn’t canon?

Prophecy: Which arc is your favorite? Which book?

Aquatic: Favorite friendship?

Othermind: If you could rewrite one book/plot point, what would it be?

Dreamvisitor: Which character would you be best friends with?

[leafy-wings]

Hey. Wanna talk about your ocs?

yes  🥺

i always want to talk abt my ocs so if you see anyone specific and want me to talk about them more. i am always here

ive conveniently marked which characters are for roleplays because i have my fingers in so many pies. some of these were used for multiple rps like aglais and petrichor. heres short summaries of all of them under the cut bc its long

- AGLAIS is being used for that skywing roleplay im never in Oops! I got lost. but i love algais a lot! theyre a silk/skywing who was raised underground with out wind so their wings are all fucked up! they have light flamesilk, and are obsessed with resolving conflict and making sure everyones happy. a sunny type character yknow.

- BRISK was a character for sundown-falls on dA, idk if its active or not! im not there at least, ever. ive never used her!! idk her personality really, i liked imagining her as manic and cheerful

- BUCKTHORN and skipping a few characters HAWTHORN [and seer/sear] were for an arc 3 rewrite i had planned but probably scrapped because uhh things hard. its an au where clearsight has more leafwing partners than silkwing so there are thornwings instead of hivewings. itd be focusing more on the societal implications of a silkwing oppressive society, ft the headcanon that the hivewing mind control was a nightwing power. hawthorn has it too, previously shes very faithful to her society up until shes almost murdered for trying to investigate a case of silkwing puppetry and assassination. ah!! it follows her adventures within the underbelly of pantala, and then the second book wouldve been about buckthorn, who was always anxious, because he has a lil bit of mindreading, and he has firey palms. he goes to pyrrhia to try and ask for help, and turns into a suicide bomber. its very half baked i just wanted to make dragons

- REDACTED for DRIFT SPOILERS

- HARLEQUIN is just jewels dad. hes fucked up bro!!

- HARUSPEX was for moonborn!! i never really got into him, i love his concept, but i dont like rp where characters know each other before starting. the conceit of moonborn is three of a handful of dragons were going to fly up to the moons and no one knows what happens to them then, so hes terrified of socializing or getting close to anyone because of that. hes like.. protective and helpful but isolated. quiet.

- JEWEL!!!! might be my favorite character!!!!!!! like sometimes i forget about him or languish about writing him so so bad but seriously im so nostalgic for him and love him so much. he was for the destined, his father harlequin was a doomsday prepper [yknow like, bunkers ‘ the worlds ending soon’] before the burning and is vindicated when the world does start ending, lol. hed been training jewel to take up the mantle as fucking insane doomsday person, i really wanted to get him more of a hypochondriac and survivalist but more often than not he just was timid and friendly.. at the start of the rp!! he made good friends with wisteria and hexapod :) and then people started fighting 24/7 and fucking dying and so jewel becomes a cannibal because hes terrified of being weak and dying, he wants to prove himself worthy of being there + a sprinkling of harlequins “eat people to absorb their powers/cannibalism isnt bad” mentality. jewels kind of unhinged for the rest of the rp but still holds his friendship with wisteria and hexapod close <3 i dont think he ever did anything important or useful. but he was there!

- ORIUS was for PPAU on dA, im not active on it anymore lol! orius is FUCKING BUFF AS HELL!! shes just a huge lady and her shtick is that she is dumb as rocks and suffocatingly selfless, she loves doing work for other dragons. her parents were neglectful so she just goes into towns and does busywork for random dragons, getting super buff because she has nothing better to do and she hopes it makes people treat her better, she just loves helping others because its.. all she knows how to do to get any affection. she busts a drug smuggling ring and gets enrolled into a big cool school :]

- PETRICHOR was for dawning rain and i am hoping to reuse him for animus academy!! theyre a dramatic actor rainwing, i remember when i submitted them i added aside from their app that says theyre naive and stupid that they are literally just lying and actually pretty smart and malicious. theyre like acting childish and silly and daft as a way to get what they want and a smoke screen to commit crimes. in dawning rain they got kidnapped for 4 days and no one noticed and they were bitter about it for fucking ever. they made gay with a nightwing, tranquility, but the writer had their stuff taken away :[ petriquil 4life.

- POISON IVY was for PPAU also! they have evil fucked up leafspeak that kills plants, and theyre a paid assassin. they used to steal to survive and kill people he had beef with so he was like wait a minute. i can do both. so he affiliates with good dragons to kill bad dragons while pursuing his hobby in baking :) hes very aloof, a lil flirty, just friendly and casual.

- lets just toss puddle, nimbus, crow, and caiman into one category; this was for my roleplay, the royal division! the conceit being that the skywing and mudwings had affiliated with the other tribes [aka; took them over with force] so now the tribe is split in two, except for a collection of dragons specially chosen by a nightwing prophet. all she knows is that youve got to deal with it, and deal with it they do! ill not give details about the twist; it might just be reused for something special coming up soon... oh yeah, rouge was there too! but rouge isnt a trd character;

- ROUGE is one of my oldest characters, for my FIRST wof roleplay, refuge and rogues, run in 2018!! rouge is a skywing animus, abandoned to KISMET and WEED [kismet is my oldest wof oc! her first name was chameleon because it was before i read escaping peril], kismet and weed are part of a problem solving group called refuge where they go around the continent fixing things for dragons. or taking in eggs if you dont want them, i guess. rouge is a BAD BOY!!! hes like a rebellious teen so he splits off and makes his own version of refuge but its EVIL and for BAD BOYS LIKE HIM!! well, theyre not evil- they still help people, but CHAOTICALLY! like with CRIME! if someone took something of yours refuge would barter with them to get it back; rogues would just steal it.

- WEISS and SUPERNOVA were for the PLANNED but currently UNPLANNED sequel to the royal division, titled the rising occult! WEISS is actually not a wof oc- hes a different version of one of my mains, still named weiss! with the last word in the title you could just guess what its about. but, hey, dawning rain crowd, i had the rising occult planned in 2019 so IM the first wof cult person, HA!

- WHIRLWIND was for THE LEGENDS, i never participated just because i felt like i did not belong. but whirlwind was going to be a petrichor type character, but genuinely incompetent. theyre a rainwing who pretends to be other tribes to get things, mostly love. very silly and stupid! they have rot in their brain.

UNLISTED: is CADDIS for shattered seas, who was a cowboy pirate!!!!!!!!!!!!!! seawing/rainwing, when he was young he hung out with the wrong crowd and owed a debt with his dearest friend- the fucking weirdos who he owned the debt to had them pay in BLOOD! one of them had to die. caddis’ friend wouldnt kill him, no, but they snapped his horns off and took his eye off and pretended that caddis had died. so caddis spends his days HUNTING HIS FRIEND DOWN! and refusing to let anyone else get so close to him. i never got to unveil that in rp, instead caddis appeared, had sex, and then presumably died as the rp ended

and extras;

these are characters for my old rp, the animus code, which is currently on hiatus! they and a lot of the setting and lore will be lifted and reused for animus academy!

[qibliii]

Wings of Fire Asks

Queen: Favorite Tribe?

Animus: Do you have any WoF OCs?

Egg: Favorite and least favorite characters?

Rainforest: Favorite villain?

Desert: Any moments that made you laugh irl?

Ocean: Favorite part of the WoF universe?

Jade Mountain: Which character is the most like you?

Eye of Onyx: Least favorite book?

Three Moons: What are your unanswered questions about the WoF universe?

Pyrrhia: Pyrrhia or Pantala? Which is better?

Pantala: If you were a dragon, which Tribe would you be in and what would your name be?

Volcano: Favorite scene?

Camouflage: One character you wish died/hadn’t died?

Firescales: What do you think is the coolest special ability (animus, firescales, fire immunity, etc.)?

Flamesilk: Which character do you want to know more about?

Poison Jungle: Top 3 OTPs? Top 3 NOTPs?

Treasure: If your favorite character were human, what would they look like? What about their name?

Scavenger: Your favorite headcanons?

Leafspeak: Current speculations for future books?

Possibility: Would you want a movie about WoF?

Scorpion Den: What do you wish wasn’t canon?

Prophecy: Which arc is your favorite? Which book?

Aquatic: Favorite friendship?

Othermind: If you could rewrite one book/plot point, what would it be?

Dreamvisitor: Which character would you be best friends with?

[pinata-candy]

Over summer I've been on and off re-reading the wings of fire books like I did over covid bc I really liked the first arc as a kid and I wanna do a rewrite- but I'm really supposed to believe that all the BeetleWings are just gone. Clearsight's genetics were just soooo powerful and awesome that they vanished. The population was that small? And I'm also supposed to believe that 2000 years was long enough to turn one species into two but no change was made to any of the other dragons- everybody else looks the same, nothing new happened? Especially to the NightWings who had to move territories? They didn't adapt to the new island at all, even when it wasn't a mess? And if the continents are the same size, why does Pyrria have 7 dragons species and Pantala has 3. Why does it feel like nobody lives on the bug continent it feels like we see none of it. I know it's popular to not really like the third arc and its plot (weed that makes you dragon racist is. It's stupid I'm sorry it's so stupid) but they really went go girl give us nothing

ALSO WHY DOES CLEARSIGHT DECIDE SHES GONNA HAVE SEVERAL HUSBANDS AND A FUCK TON OF KIDS AS AN ADULT? IS THIS HOW SHE COPES?? WHAT