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Their friendship!
That’s the post.
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trans rights!
#this just reminds me of like the goons in the Arkham games#okay but people thinking batman transitioned and became cass batgirl is like so canon#dc#batgirl#batgirl (2000)#cassandra cain#batman#bruce Wayne#batgirl (2000) 57#war games#laz.exe#laz live reaction
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Another illustration for @lovelyelbowleech’s „All’s fair”.
More fluffy this time.
#atla#avatar the last airbender#sokka#atla fanart#atla sokka#atla zuko#zukka#zuko x sokka#ao3#fanfiction#illustration#all’s fair#war games#fanart#how the fuck dres this have twice as many notes as the piece i’ve spent do much more time on :’))
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The dichotomy between Jason dying because he disobeyed Batman and Stephanie dying specifically because she was trying to follow his rules is so good, and yet so under utilized.
#which is why Steph should be given the Red Hood Arc in Reverse Robin Aus#more details available upon request#(The only thing stopping me from writing a Reverse Robins Au)#(is having never read anything with Damian...)#stephanie brown#jason todd#batman#batfam#batfamily#batgirl#batgirl iii#Robin#robin iv#robin ii#red hood#the spoiler#spoiler#death in the family#a death in the family#war games#batman: war games#also not saying Jason was /wrong/ to disobey batman#I understand why he did what he did and am not victim blaming either of them#it's just a fact that Batman told him not to go into the building#than he did#and because he did he ended up dead#dead robins club#i read comics
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It’s okay Aang, eventually (right,,,?🔪)
Ahahaha,,, hahaha,,, sorry @lovelyelbowleech I know there’s more to take away from the last two chapter of War Games but mmmm aaaah hmmm uhhhh
#atla fanart#atla fanfic#avatar: the last airbender#avatar the last airbender#aang#sokka#katara#toph#zukka#war games#war crimes#all’s fair#all’s fair fanart#war games fanart#fic art#fanart#lovelyelbowleech#Gaang#avatar fanart
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Let’s talk about the significance of how Stephanie Browns first ever appearance is tied directly to a TV broadcast about Batman, and how it perfectly explains why she's such a remarkable character.
Detective Comics #647
The full sentence the TV broadcaster says is “It’s not up to some masked vigilante to protect our citizens …. No matter how good his intentions…No matter how noble his cause”.
This scene asks us to compare the characters of Batman, who the statement is textually about, and Stephanie, who is viewing it and (presumably), being inspired by it. The panel itself seems to encourage use to try to apply these lines to Steph instead of Batman, framing the latter proclamation directly above her head, almost like a text box telling us this information about her. If we apply these lines to her, we can see an idea emerge.
There is this figure, who is not only not necessary, but unacceptable on the face of it, “…No matter how good [her] intentions...” / “…No matter how noble [her] cause…”
The first time we see Stephanie brown, she is being showcased alongside a condemnation, which is followed by her disregarding the message of this broadcast, and appearing for the very first time as Spoiler.
Dismissal and Stephanie ignoring this condemnation continues on to be one of the central facets of Stephanie’s character. In the same introduction arc we already see the dismissal/disregard dynamic established.
Batman and/or Robin tell her to Fuck Off, she chooses not to:
Detective #649
This pattern continues on for some time. She is dismissed by Batman
Robin #16, Robin #26, Robin #50 (1993)
And by Tim Drake/Robin:
Robin #25, Robin #35, and Robin #26 (1993)
And by her own mother:
Robin #71 (1993)
When she finally becomes an official part of the team in 2001, there is a break in this pattern. But, as always, Stephanie is eventually pushed out again:
Gotham Knights #37 (2000)
But, as always, Steph says “fuck that”, and refuses to stop.
Even in the face of dear friends agreeing she should give it up.
Batgirl #38 (2000)
And when Steph is brought in as Robin, she is again dismissed, in this case “Fired” soon after. She doesn’t quit of course, leading to the disastrous events of War Games.
Robin #128 (1993)
And when she comes back from being “dead” she is dismissed again, by Robin.
Robin #182 (1993)
This isn’t every time someone tells her to quit being Spoiler, but instead a showcase of how prevalent the Dismissal/Disregarding dynamic is for her character.
I am working on two other posts, one which will explain in depth Why the way she was “fired” as Spoiler has everything to do with Bruce Wayne’s own hangups and emotionally manipulative quirks and very little to do with her own skill level. The other will analyze why she feels the compulsion to be keep being Spoiler even after having Every reason to quit and being told to do so hundreds of times.
However, for the purposes of this post, all that matters is that this Dismissal/Disregarding dynamic exists and is a huge and reoccurring part of Stephanie’s character.
Whether or not you think she “deserved” how often she was rejected, and whether or not you think her disregarding the rejection was “good” or not doesn’t come into play here.
For now, let’s focus on the implications this dynamic has for her character in a meta sense, as a character who is used and discarded.
A character who is for all intents and purposes, the narrative punching bag. She endures character dismissal and belittling, three separate backstory instances of sexual harassment as a child and teenager, teenage pregnancy, abuse, taking care of a parent struggling with addiction, brutal and (debatably) sexualized torture, character assassination, death, retconned death, and further character assassination until 2009, where she finally gets her own solo comic, and a modicum of respect. The thing that separates the horrible shit Stephanie goes through and the bad things that happen to other characters is only rarely are Stephanie’s struggles treated as significant on their own, and almost always her narrative is used for drama or to prop up Robin Tim Drake’s plot. Very rarely does she get treated with the care and attention her character merits.
But let’s go back to that news broadcast, all the way back in Detective #647. How does she take it, when we are told, when Stephanie is told, first thing, straight out of the gate, plain and simple: No matter how good your intentions, no matter how noble your cause, you is not enough, or you’re too much, or your just not right?
It is met by a triumphantly tragic: “And?”
Stephanie hears from the VERY start the same refrain she will hear for years and years: she is not good enough, she needs to go home, she needs to quit and she does the exact thing she will continue to do every following time she is told this: she puts on the damn Spoiler outfit and she still tries anyway. Again and again.
The next time we see Stephanie Brown after this, the second time we ever see her character, she has donned the Spoiler costume, and she’s got to work. “And?” She seems to say. “As if!” She seems to shout. What a perfectly awe inspiring thing, and what a perfect summary of what makes Stephanie Brown so damn cool.
For better or worse, you cannot keep her down. I love Stephanie Brown so much.
And if you want to read a comic which understands this, which treats the terrific character of Stephanie Brown with respect and love, and which for the first time maybe ever lets her stubborn refusal to give up go her way? Read Batgirl (2009)!!
Batgirl #3 (2008) & Bruce Wayne: The Road Home - Batgirl (2010)
#dc comics#stephanie brown#stephanie brown meta#batman#batman meta#tim drake#robin 1993#dc robin#war games#batgirl 2009#batgirl 2000#cassandra cain#batgirl#mine
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Puters :3
#war games#p03#edgar electric dreams#electric dreams#electric dreams 1984#inscryption#calculester hewlett packard#calculester monster prom#monster prom
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from Chapter 31 of @lovelyelbowleech 's wonderful fic War Games cause I am in LOVE with it
it's so smartly written and I genuinely love the more realistic depictions of war and the consequences it has(plus these two's relationship is adorable af)
#avatar the last airbender#atla#atla fanfic#atla fanart#atla sokka#atla zuko#all's fair#war games#war crimes#zukka#zukka fanfic#zukka fanart#atla zukka
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War Games and Under the Red Hood being right next to each other makes me lose my shit. There is no gap between these stories and Judd Winick even wrote part of War Games but he doesn't seem to realise how wild it is to follow that up with UTRH.
War Games is about Batman trying to gain control of Gotham's gangs as harm reduction, not stopping their activities but monitoring and controlling them via his ally, Orpheus, who is propped up to lead all the gangs in a coalition. He is unable to do this and it all ends in disaster.
5 seconds later, Jason returns to Gotham and gains control of most of the gangs real quick and then takes out his competitors. He does what Bruce was unable to do and for the same reason, to reduce harm.
But Bruce's actions are framed as heroic and Jason's aren't. Judd Winick himself said "Along with handing out his own brand of justice, he does believe that crime can be controlled. Batman had said it makes you a crime lord. Jason doesn't think it makes him a crime lord at all. He thinks it makes him a much more effective Batman."
I must ask how is it that this makes Jason a crime lord but Bruce wasn't one when he was trying to control the Gotham gangs five seconds ago. How is Bruce on his high horse like "Jason is a crime lord in denial"? What was he five seconds ago then?
And yeah, Jason is more violent than Bruce was of course, but instead of trying to work with him and get him to his side/to be less violent like he did with the other gang leaders, he immediately goes on the offensive.
Then Bruce slits Jason's throat to save Joker right after firing Stephanie because "We don't use potentially lethal force." What Steph did was markedly less dangerous than slicing someone's throat. The hypocrisy of it all.
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Hey War Games art, cause I had to yk?
I think this scene is from chapter 9???? Village shopping episode. Sokka, more oblivious that somebody’s into you than a dating sim MC.
Also @lovelyelbowleech thanks and keep doing the lords work. I will likely be drawing more scenes from the fic to cope between updates.
Bonus:
#atla#zukka#allsfair#avatar the last airbender#this fic has had me by the chokehold since day 1#sokka#zuko#sokka/zuko#Sokka is an idiot#and I love him for it#Zuko is equally stupid but in a very different direction#the amount of ick Zhao gives me everytime I see his stupid face now#this fic has ruined me#war games#war crimes
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Here you go with my War Games fanart sheet!
I though there would be two drawings in the space I left on the right (where the colored piece ended up) but… Obviously I chose a scene that feathured three main characters. So… I had to say good bye to Dumpling, sadly. :’( I’ll draw that round baby another time that’s it!!!
So…. @lovelyelbowleech, here's your fanart dump that I told you about!!! I really hope you won’t mind my messy style, and you’ll like those.
As you can see, I picked scenes as I was re-reading War Games from the start. I had to do a quick re-read of War Crimes to remember the injuries they acquired, but I’m pretty sure I forgot most of them anyways…
Each drawing had it’s own struggles but I’m still happy with them. And I had the joy of linearting that nightmare of three people posing sketch. (I love doing lineart, it feels like a treat earned after all the disastrous mental gymnastics you had to go through to figure out the characters’ poses.)
#atla fanart#zuko#sokka#zukka#myart#shen#all’s fair#war games#i don’t know why i decided to render that kart so much#it’s so not going well with the rest of the drawing!#i’m just shit at props and abackgrounds!#i want to get better at some point!#what i love tho is the sequencial art ar the bottom#the faces were drawn on three separate days so nothing was consistent#i had to do so many touch ups on those three faces#sokka you gave me nightmares#i had some sort of gif flashing behind ly eyes when i had this idea#i’ll admit i was too lazy to render shen zuko and sokka as much as the kart#the kart made me too tired#i’m shit at perspective as well duh…#artist on tumblr#fanart dump#sketch dump#digital art
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Dick and Cass race inside the amphitheater where Bruce is fighting (Legends of the Dark Knight #184)
#war games#dick grayson#cassandra cain#dick: really? now?#Cass: ��#dick: ugh fine you’ve convinced me#I love them 😭😭😭😭😭#I need them teaming up more#dc#competent dick
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bruce didn't take the cowl off even in steph's final moments. not even then did he trust her with his face. he didn't give leslie any way to contact steph's mother, either -- presumably because the writers forgot she even had one or didn't think anyone would care. but i remember and i care. so in her final moments, steph was with a man in a mask whose lack of trust in her messed with her head and ruined her life, still begging to be acknowledged by him, to be called worthy, to be called real. and she deserved her mother to hold her hand or tim but bruce deserves to sit with that moment the rest of his life.
#dc#dc comics#war games#stephanie brown#bruce wayne#anti bruce wayne#??? i guess#i just really can't stand him right now#if you ever wanted a legitimate reason to hate batman please just go all of steph's pre war games appearances they will do the trick#batfam#bruce&steph#yuck#never want that man near her again
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I just think it's really neat how much fans have latched onto the fact that Stephanie Brown was Robin.
Like, both in and out of universe Stephanie was never meant to be taken seriously as Robin. The writers only made her Robin so that her death in War Games would be shocking and Bruce only made her Robin because he thought it would make Tim jealous enough to come back. She only had the mantle for 71 days before being fired (for doing something that literally every other Robin has also done and not been fired over), and she was only active during 50 of them. There are only six issues where Steph is Robin in the canon timeline.
Her final words before her death are asking Batman (Batman, because even on her death bed he doesn't trust her enough to take off his mask) if any of it was real. Was she really Robin? And Batman assures her that of course she was, that she was part of the legend and no one can take it away from her. Except it's a lie, because despite his reassurances, Batman never puts up a memorial or does anything to preserve her memory. He never really thinks of her as Robin, and even her friends will always think of her as Spoiler before ever remembering Robin.
Meanwhile DC spent years ignoring her time as Robin, to the point where it was completely erased from existence for awhile. It's technically back now, because timelines are weird, but unlike the others it's never been altered. She's never been given a second chance at it, no one's ever gone back and added more issues or details about those 71 days, or even seems to want to acknowledge them most of the time.
But fans have clung on to it anyway. Sure, there are lots of people who make Robin posts that are just about the boys, but there are just as many people who are ready to fight anyone who doesn't include her. Maybe it was only for a little while, but she was Robin, and we're sure as hell not going to forget it. If DC isn't going to bother to remember, than we will.
Stephanie Brown was Robin. She was part of the legend. It was real. No matter what, no one can take that away from her.
#i know she's a fictional character and her dying words don't actually matter#but also I just think it's really fascinating to look at the similarities between how Steph was treated in and out of canon#and it does kinda make me emotional thinking about how#her dying wish was to always be part of the legend and to this day#20 years later#we still insist on including her in Robin fan works#stephanie brown#robin iv#robin stephanie brown#batman#the spoiler#batgirl iii#batfam#batfamily#listen man#war games bad#but also steph's last words always make me so emotional#war games#batman: war games#batman 633
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Mmm angst, yummyy. I was obsessed with the imagery of the rain suddenly falling during this scene in chapter 34 of War Games by @lovelyelbowleech
#zukka#zukka angst? I call that free real estate#war games fic#war games#fic art#fic fanart#zukka fanart#avatar fanart#war games fanart#atla fanart#avatar the last airbender#fanart#avatar sokka#avatar zuko#zuko#sokka#angst#lovelyelbowleech#all’s fair
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