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bylerismyeverything Ā· 18 hours ago
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The way I see it, Sorcerer could be one of two storylines (or both tbh). So we know that this is the episode with the miwi flashbacks. And the name ā€˜Sorcererā€™ greatly hints about this episode being centered around Will.
1. This could be either the episode that byler happens in or be largely significant to their development as a ship.
2. And hear me out on this- Will might get powers in that episode. Ok so I think thereā€™s some reason why Will can still feel everything upside down related and I honestly think him having powers would make a lot of sense. If you look back at season one you might see the scenes of Will communicating with Joyce, but did you ever wonder how he did that? Will talked to her through the Christmas lights and painted letters which he shouldnā€™t have seen since the upside down is frozen in the day he disappeared, he also found a way to communicate through his house phone and call Joyce from the upside down, weā€™ve seen him dangerously close to the demogorgon which probably means he had a plan and means to escape, this happened once in the song playing scene to the demogorgon breaking through his bedroom wall, and another time in the Byers living room in which he- and I think thatā€™s the biggest proof- opens a gate. Yeah I know what you probably think, the gate just opened on its own or maybe the demogorgon opened it but imagine it from the upside down. In no scenario would Will see the demogorgon opening a gate and run towards him, and the demogorgon also opens very different gates (when he tears down the walls). And a gate has never opened on its own. In addition weā€™ve never seen what happened to Will in the upside down and he never talked about it. I think this would all eventually lead to Will powers reveal (probably in a time where Mike is in imminent danger), and what would be a better time to do that than an episode called ā€œSorcererā€?
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daydreamsandcloudnines Ā· 2 days ago
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oh to have my mind flayed by capitalists šŸ˜µā€šŸ’«
it's been a month and apparently i missed a lot like the fandom having byler doubt and ST5 WRAPPING?? šŸ˜­šŸ˜­
answ, I'm back now and all I want for Christmas is an ST5 teaser with a sprinke of Byler āœØšŸ’›šŸ’™
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bananananurr Ā· 2 months ago
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William
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fairchld Ā· 7 months ago
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my take on the scott and ramona redraw trend ( im so late )
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miwiromantics Ā· 2 months ago
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Are we forgetting this???? This happened? THISS HAPPENED
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omartinyosef Ā· 9 months ago
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ST5 POTENTIAL SPOILERS!!!
GUYS I FOUND THIS ON REDDIT AND ACTUALLY IT'S QUITE INTERESTING
ST5 Leaks/Fleaks
Gen Plot
Season picks up briefly where we left off in 1986 before jumping into either late 1987 or early 1988. The season is contained entirely in apocalyptic Hawkins. Things with the government are shaky. Owens doesn't appear in the beginning of the season and it's unclear if he's returning, but Ellen Stinson is the new Owens. Hawkins is like a combination of the UD and Kamchatka.
Labyrinths/Mazes being important to both the supernatural plot and the interpersonal relationships. They're inherently linked.
Two songs to be featured are 'Listen to Your Heart' and 'Alone,' both of which were apparently foreshadowed in a previous conversation between Hopper and Joyce, similar to how Hopper's "I'm the puppet, you're the master" to Joyce in S3 basically foreshadowed Eddie's 'Master of Puppets' in S4.
S1 and 2 scenes being referenced are "Nancy and Mike's conversation in the bathtub" and "Hopper + Lando Calrissian"
Lots of importance in COLOR CODING and blocking from the final shot of S4, and a good chunk is told in the costumingā€”like passing the torch from one character to another as their arcs overlap. For example, Hopper and Will share the "am I the curse and therefore putting my loved ones at risk by being near them?" sentiment for S5, therefore their wardrobe in the final shot of S4 is similar. Joyce/Jonathan and Nancy/Mike's costuming also similar for the same reason, whereas Eleven stands out because she's the first one coming into her own this season. The white for her represents shedding of false skins.
Character duos this season will be primarily dressed in colors of blue/green and yellow/red.
There's lots of symbolism and foreshadowing for every character in S5 from the moment Will touches his neck in the last sequence of S4.
S4 focused on themes of lies and miscommunication, and everyone is going to have to work through these lies before they can defeat Vecna.
Murray and Argyle are both back. Dimitri and Yuri don't seem to be in the beginning of the season.
One thing left unresolved with the Russian plot. Something important will happen involving the machine and the green liquid from the Starcourt bunker. Reference of Dustin vowing to die with Steve when they initially discovered it.
Hopper, Joyce, Mike, Will, and El had to be away from Hawkins, otherwise Vecna wouldn't have won.
An important death that they're nervous about given the reception to Eddie (not Joyce or Jonathanā€”see details below).
Eleven
We'll see her unlike we've seen her before. A badass who doesn't take shit from anyone. Not a Monster, not a Hero, Jane. Think: adult El could be headed for a Charles Xavier type role.
Erica, Lucas, and El will share scenes together.
El has significant blocking and development with many characters this season.
Max, Eleven & Max
The "kaleidoscope of colors" from a script the writers posted makes a feature in both the scene where young El remembers her mother's love in order to defeat Henry in the lab, as well as the scene where El revives Max. This is significant because it's the first time we see El using her powers on someone in a non-violent way.
El was able to revive Max because of she, herself, being revived in the bunker by Brenner and Co. It's a show, don't tell moment from the writers.
Max getting Vecna'd was foreshadowed in the beginning of 2x01.
Will, Henry/Vecna, The UD
Filming was supposed to commence mid-June, but Noah and Jamie were set to begin in May due to more complicated costuming. Will is going to require heavy prosthetics at some point.
Will's character design is blocked in three stages. The more the UD bleeds into Hawkins, the more connected to it he feels. The gates being open will physically influence him, especially when he's not as mentally strong.
He's kind of like "the card up Vecna's sleeve."
It appears they want to confuse the audience about Will.
Will wrestling with his own morality
Henry/Will mirrors. Will will sympathize with Henry because, unlike El, he knows how and what Henry thinks, and he can feel him.
Vecna and Will are very similar, but the difference is Will is made stronger by love not hate. They will play into that duality.
Vecna was nerfed in S4 compared to how we see him in S5. He'll be much stronger.
At the beginning, he'll be taking a hiatus while he plans how to divide and conquer now that everyone's back together in Hawkins.
Soteria will be the key to saving Will. If they want Will to be untraceable to Henry, they'll have to insert it into his neck and it'll be painful. Vecna not having access to Will fucks up his ability to leave the UD.
Byler/Mileven Triangle
Apparently, it's complicated and up in the air as of now.
Mike dealing with guilt this season. He feels guilty/responsibility for El. He feels stuck in a loop that keeps him from a truth he's scared to face.
Will and Mike to spend a good chunk of the season together based on character designs and blocking.
Will telling El that Mike won't like being lied to comes back with the painting. During a pre-time jump scene in 5x01, while everyone's together plotting how to defeat Vecna and brainstorming how to save Max, Mike brings up the painting El commissioned for a D&D analogy. Will has to pull Mike aside and confess he lied about El commissioning the painting. Mike gets angry, because he doesn't know about Will's feelings and feels embarrassed that Will thought he was that pathetic he needed to be given a pep talk. Their own version of a "fight you can't come back from." Immediately after their fight, we get the time skip.
Mike's character motivations are unclear and seem to be kept under wraps. After the time jump, he and El won't be talking as much because he's keeping the details about Will's painting from her. She's gonna ask what's wrong between him and Will, and he lies/is very vague.
Joyce, Hopper, Jopper
Joyce feels immense guilt/responsible over Bob's death since she's the one that asked him to help in S2, which is why she pushed Hopper away at first.
Hopper has a secret from S1 that was never addressed, and it comes back to haunt him.
Joyce sustains an injury in S5 that is reminiscent of the way someone was injured in S3, but it isn't critical and she'll be okay.
Jopper are the most established couple after the time jump. Lots of bickering still, but Hopper trusts Joyce more than he ever has.
Jonathan, Nancy, Jancy
So far, does not seem like a breakup is happening.
Jonathan's still lying about the college letter and distant because of it, and Nancy thinks he's not as into the relationship and that there might be someone else. She confronts him, which leads to a talk. She's touched by the lengths he would go to try and protect her and any of their future children even from himself.
A moment where we're led to believe Jonathan dies but doesn't, like Hopper in S3.
Hopper-Byers Family
These five characters slowly unraveling their arcs together and have always been closely linked. Their perfect endings are together.
We see the family combining, especially in relation to El.
Joyce gets to witness Hopper being paternal and tender towards the boys.
Scenes with Joyce, Jonathan, and Will
Hopper being back lifts a weight off Jonathan's shoulders.
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So, now time to shine.
''(...) sentiment for S5, therefore their wardrobe in the final shot of S4 is similar. Joyce/Jonathan and Nancy/Mike's costuming also similar for the same reason, (...)''
Okay. How did we see Nancy in S4? Confused. Confused with the love triangle between Jonathan, her and Steve. Jonathan is her actual boyfriend. And Steve is her posible love interest again.
So, putting this in byler language: Nancy = Mike Jonathan = Eleven Will = Steve
If Mike's and Nancy's character's clothing is important at this point of the time line and that means they feel similar feelings, this could mean that byler has a chance. BUT then we read this: ''(...) He (Mike) feels stuck in a loop that keeps him from a truth he's scared to face.'' And
''Mike's character motivations are unclear and seem to be kept under wraps.''
THIS LITERALLY MEANS BYLER. FOR REAL. Like byler could be endgame. Also, remember Eleven's injury in S3? Do you remember the leak of a shoe covered in blood?
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It's Joyce. ALSO YOU CAN READ THAT WE'LL HAVE SCENES BEFORE THE TIME JUMP. And here it comes. Look at this freaking hair:
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Does this look more like this
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or this?
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The season 4 bowl cut right? So maybe this is right in some part? I dont know. But that could make sense why Will is wearing Mike's pants, because his clothes were in California by that moment. But i really do think that the pic that was leaked a few days ago is before the time jump.
Im so late with this info haha :) but i kinda think some things here make sense. Even if this is too well explained to be a leak.
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will80sbyers Ā· 21 days ago
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WILL BYERS ā€¢ STRANGER THINGS 4
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miriam-loves-cartoons Ā· 3 months ago
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Why do gay guys use this kind of shorts
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and this kind of shirts?
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lordystrange Ā· 11 months ago
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Us rn
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willthezombieboy Ā· 1 month ago
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Can we talk for a moment about how Will had this song in his spotify playlist (run for cover by the killers)
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and the fact that is confirmed that Will is going to be protective over Joyce in s5 it's so special to me
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daydreamsandcloudnines Ā· 2 months ago
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I just love how the core four in stranger things is composed of:
1. Eldest Child - Lucas
2. Middle Child - Mike
3. Youngest Child - Will
4. Only Child - Dustin
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mikewheeleronlyfans Ā· 2 years ago
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NOAH SCHNAPP COMING OUT AS GAY WAS NOOOTTT ON MY 2023 BINGO BOARD
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fairchld Ā· 8 months ago
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guys in unison we say happy birthday to this thing
( and yes im the creator who made it šŸŽŠšŸŽ‰ )
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l1v1ngd34dgrl Ā· 2 months ago
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That's it, thats todays post
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perakip Ā· 6 months ago
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a new look
reference used:
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omartinyosef Ā· 5 months ago
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BITHCES
GUYS
GUYS
GUYS
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THIS IS A BETTER PHOTO. WELL I JUST USED A PROGRAM. SO:
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this is the new pic. The original picture is:
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the upgraded
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So this is a body alright?
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SORRY IM BAD AT PAINTING
LOOK AT THIS:
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AND:
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SO THIS SHIT FITS IN:
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AND ALSO THE PERSON IS FUCKING WALKIN TO WHO WE DO THINK IS MIKE. LIKE SEE THE VIDEO THEY UPLOADED. THEY ARE WALKING.
AND LETS SEE MILEVEN HEIGHT DIFERENCE:
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DUDE. FUCKING DUDE BRO. LETS SEE BYLER HEIGHT DIFFERENCE:
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WELL THEY HAVE TO STAND UP STRIGHTER BUT YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN.
THERE'S NO WAY THAT PERSON IS ELEVEN.
BITCH MAKE ME FAMOUS. I BROKE MY FUCKING MIND.
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