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happy birthday 2 mike!! i will always defend you with my life ♡

(cant make an edit today so bday edit coming tuesday maybe..)

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Sadie in her Chappell Roan era on teen vogue!!

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BYLER + Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets

movies that inspired season 4 as said by the writers

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*extreme bi panic*

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I love the new layout it’s so cute

Omggg!!! Thankiew sm,,, this is just a temporary layout until I customise it more aesthetically but seriously this is so sweet!!!! thankiewww again

love ur layout too btw,, so aesthetically pleasing grahhh!!!!

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I love Byler but sometimes at night I wonder what if all of this is just queerbait ? I'm so invested in this.I need to calm down 😭

God!!!! This is so real. Especially after arguing with Milevens and seeing so many anti posts on both tik tok and twt like it’s exhausting.

I just need to rewatch the lawyer video or go through the byler slides to gain my confidence again. Or even scrolling through tumblr and byler fanart is enough for me to get back on my feet.

But this has never been more relatable!!! Stay strong soldier

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It’s funny that in every single ST cast/crew conversation about Byler not a single one of them has ever said “well Byler wouldn't work because Mike doesn’t like boys” or “Mike’s straight, so he could only ever see Will as a friend.” Not a single time has any member of the cast or crew ever denied that Mike could be queer.

And I think that’s why Milkvans cling so desperately to the false belief that Mike is straight, because they know once he’s confirmed to be queer he’ll be guaranteed to end up with Will.

The cast is acting instead like how they did with Will's character for long, like saying Will's sexuality was "open for interpretation" until Season 4 came out when they finally confirmed Will's gay and in love with Mike.

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right...

right right....

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Yaa, it is… but with fandom I see on twt, it could be based on an actual thing someone said lmao

This is actually one of my favourite confessions everrrr… oh, the crash out next season is going to be perfect. if churchgate is ever canon…it’s gonna be beautiful

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Ended up on the milkvan side of pinterest and i might be having byler doubt most of it is just season 3 because let's face it season 4 is obviously not a win for milkvan but then there were also cast responses and i am having mixed feelings

First things first - I've said this before and I'll say it again. The casts feelings are not an indicator how how the plot will go. It's not up to them to decide. I won't deny that they get input on their characters, but in the end it's up to the Duffer brothers and the producers. Also, what the cast can say in interviews is such a watered down give-them-what-they-want version of what's actually being said and what the actors actually feel/think/believe. Byler is under lock in key, because when it happens it's gonna be huge. It's the last thing they want people to insinuate or find out from interviews.

Moving on, Season 3, to me, is a huge indicator that Mileven is not endgame. I'll just list a few main points out, since you didn't leave any specific moments you wanted me to combat - but feel free to let me know if there's any specific moment that has you feeling anxious.

Mileven, even before El dumps Mike's ass, is very unhealthy. We see almost everyone mention this in season 3, but especially Hopper and Will. Mike spends all his time with El - so much so that Mike's friends comment on how he never has time to spend with them. Hopper comments that it's not normal, not healthy. Lucas jokes "Oh El, I wish we could make out forever, and never hang out with any of our friends." The only one who doesn't seem to have a problem with it pre hopper's "talk" with the two, is Max, who's not that close to either of them at this point. "It's romantic." "It's gross." "It's bullshit."

When the two do break up, I admittedly think that it has less to do with how unhealthy their relationship is, and more to do with Hopper's meddling and Mike's and Hopper's combined inability to just set boundaries and respect one another. The only thing is that Mike lies, which very much sets up his behavior towards El in season 4 as well. He can't seem be genuine with her. However what follows the breakup is what I think is more important.

The juxtaposition of Mike and El's breakup and Mike and Will's fallout is very telling. In the same episode that Max assures El that Mike will come crawling back begging for forgiveness - Mike mopes and whines but does nothing. But when Will storms off after their argument Mike comes rushing to him with apologies.

When Mike talks to El as they set up the "sauna test" he confesses Hopper "made him lie". El comments "what if he's right?" What if they do spend too much time together. What if the need to spend more time with their own species.

I think a moment that causes a lot of byler doubt is in Hopper's cabin when Mike says: "because I love her and can't lose her again". It's interesting to me that both at this moment and in season 4, mike can only say "I love you" during intense moments where he fears for her life. In the past couple responses I've posted I've noticed a bit of a theme. We have to realize that Mike really, deeply cares for El. Just not in the way he feels he should. Not in the way she wants him to.

After this first outburst of "I love her" Mike doesn't say it again until season 4. Even as he's trying to talk to El in the store he can't say it. "You know (blank) makes you crazy". Even as El coaxes him because she doesn't understand what he's trying to say, he can't say it. And here, he's not even trying to say "I love you" he's trying to explain himself. To brush it off.

Then again, at the end of the season El brings this up again, and Mike continues to try and brush it off, to downplay it. He says it was just heat of the moment stuff. When El says "I love you" he doesn't say it back. When El kisses him, his eyes are open. When she walks away, he's in a mix of shock and confusion.

Then the season ends with the Peter Gabriel cover of heroes - and the last time we've heard that song was in season 1 as Mike goes home to hug his mom because he thinks Will is dead. And again we see him hug his mom, eyes open in that same shocked confused look. He's lost people he cares about again. I think he feels that his love is leaving him - but does he know who it is?

Theres some other topics of note in season 3, but that's for another day. Again - let me know if theirs any particular scenes that give you byler doubt and I can do more of a deep dive on them.

(Sorry if the tone's shifted halfway through, I switched from typing on my computer to typing on my phone, and I feel like I write differently on different devices.)

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I can’t with these milkvan stans anymore like I actually laughed reading that comment. 😭 And yet we’re the delusional ones.

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Average friend group in the summer

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The thing they don't tell you about fried egg runny yolk is that if you put it in a sandwich it will be the best most delicious thing and you can mop up the egg with the bread, but in exchange you Will get so so messy and covered in egg yolk

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Someone pls tell wht this last reply means becoz im genuinely confused!!!?

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This is actually one of my favourite confessions everrrr… oh, the crash out next season is going to be perfect. if churchgate is ever canon…it’s gonna be beautiful

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drawing him is my therapy