#WHAT DOES THIS MEAN FOR THE OTHER DEVO?

[mclager]

Latinos unidos! | Fernando Alonso x reader

We have fluff and a lot of Latinos, that's it, good reading

Fc: Bella Campos

Ynreal

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Ynreal Not all people that speaks Spanish/Portuguese are Latino(a), with that said, I claim Carlos Sainz as an honorary Latino by the vibes only! Thanks @/williamsracing for the invite, I guess I'm a new F1 addicted 🤷🏻‍♀️

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Stakef1team We have a real Latino! @/gabrielbortoleto_

→ ynreal YOU GUYS HAVE A BRAZILIAN? I'm a fan, no questions asked.

→ gabrielbortoleto_ Vamo bora! (Let's go!)

→ ynreal tô contigo e não abro! (I'm with you, man!)

Alpinef1team Well, we have a Latino reserve driver

→ ynreal Oh, there's more Latinos then I thought

→ Francolapinto That would be me, hi!

→ ynreal Hi!

User55 I knew Carlos was Latino material in his core

User27 He manifested that I'm pretty sure

Fernandoalo_oficial Y a mi no? (And not me?)

User14 NOT FERNANDO TRYING TO BE CLAIMED BY Y/N!

Carlossainz55 I'll take it!

McLaren Oh we're showing off our Latinos? @/patriciooward please say hi

→ patriciooward Hola, guapa!

→ ynreal Hola 👀

Astonmartinf1 @/Fernandoalo_oficial why you didn't introduce our Latino? Hi, @/ynreal, we also have a Brazilian, reserve driver, but a Brazilian non the last! @/felipedrugovich

Haasf1team @/enzofitti also a Brazilian reserve driver

Ynreal

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Ynreal Colecionadora de brasileiros feat Papi Fernando 🇧🇷 (Collecting Brazilians)

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User67 does she know what Papi really means? 👀

Felipedrugovich Muito bom esse rolê brasileiro irmão (This Brazilian dinner was too good bro)

→ Gabrielbortoleto_ Seria melhor se o Fernando não tivesse flertando com a y/n a noite inteira (it would be better if Fernando wasn't flirting with y/n all night)

→ enzofitti O pai é seu, lide com isso 👍🏻 (It's your dad, deal with him)

→ ynreal tá precisando de uma madrasta? (Do you need a Stepmom?)

User81 ARE THEY OPENLY SAYING THAT FERNANDO WAS FLIRTING WITH Y/N JUST CUS?

→ User12 this is the brazilian way my friend

Fernandoalo_oficial Good to meet you, Hermosa!

→ ynreal Good to meet you too 😘

→ gabrielbortoleto_ oh no

Ynreal

Gabrielbortoleto_ Eu criei um monstro (I created a monster)

Ynreal

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Ynreal Valeu @/gabrielbortoleto_ por ter me apresentado o Nando! Te devo uma. (Thank you Gabriel for introducing me to Nando! Own you one.)

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Felipedrugovich Perdeu o pai pra yn (Lost your dad to yn)

→ enzofitti ganhou uma madrasta (He won a Stepmom)

Gabrielbortoleto_ 🫠

User14 So it's official? I'm confused

User32 Old man Fernando still got the rizz!

Fernandoalo_oficial Still waiting for you to put me in your honorary Latino list...

→ ynreal You're in my honorary Brazilian list which is better! I'll get you a CPF 🙏🏼

→ Fernandoalo_official If I marry you would that help?

→ gabrielbortoleto_ NO

→ ynreal YES!

Williamsracing Please don't forget us 🙏🏼

→ ynreal NEVER!!! Always in my heart as the team that made me like F1, thank you very much ❤️

→ williamsracing 💙💙💙

Fernandoalo_oficial

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Fernandoalo_oficial Mi amuleto de la suerte @/ynreal (My lucky charm)

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Ynreal Te amo!

→ Fernandoalo_oficial Te amo muchísimo ❤️

→ felipedrugovich Gado (Simp)

Gabrielbortoleto_ Don't know if I did the best thing ever or the worse thing ever

→ enzofitti At least now you can have a fight in Portuguese with someone 👍🏻

User27 OMG FERNANDO?

User98 I can't believe this

Ynreal

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Ynreal Nando, P1 on track and on my heart, te amo, Papi! (Turns out, I know what Papi means)

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Fernandoalo_oficial Te amo, Nena ❤️

Gabrielbortoleto_ Se eu ouvir você chamando ele de Papi eu me jogo de um prédio! (If I hear you calling him Papi I will jump off a building)

→ ynreal 👍🏻

→ felipedrugovich ta conversando muito com o enzo (you're talking too much with Enzo)

→ enzofitti 👍🏻

Carlossainz55 I'll always remember when she loved me first 🥲

→ fernandoalo_oficial Cry all you want, the girl is mine 👍🏻

→ ynreal 👍🏻

[on-a-lucky-tide]

Do you ever think about poor Nik, having learned English from textbooks and maybe some American media here and there and all that, suddenly being faced with Brits / specifically John Price, pronouncing things somewhat differeng and having all those British terms that Nik has never heard of. Why the fuck are Brits putting blankets on pigs and why is John asking him whether he's ever had that!!

The man knows eight (8) languages, so it's likely it's not even his second language, but his fourth or fifth. Mad intelligent, but yeah, you're so right.

I work with a few foreign nationals who have told me that, sometimes, speaking to me is like hearing English through a carnival mirror; the words are familiar, but what the hell do they mean in that order? It's usually when my brain has switched to Jack Mode out of professional mode, and I am absolutely not paying any attention.

I can imagine Price does the same. Same way that Johnny tones down his accent, I headcanon that Price toned down his Liverpudlian twang, but sometimes he'll absolutely slip up, and Nik'll hear him use "devoed", "clobber" and other weird phrases that he's pretty sure contain words that aren't in the Bible.

There's only one person who can understand Price when he goes Full Liverpool: Ghost, who goes Full Mancunian in response, and Nik's sitting there while they're...

P: Gonna jib this off, and go fer bevvy and scran on me bill, unless yer down, la?

G: Gaggin' fer a pint, but can't, 'm brassic, got reports to finish and that. Can I cadge a ciggy?

P: Naw, I've only got abar four bifters left, like.

G: Ah, yer dead snide, sir.

Nik, looking at Gaz for help, who is just smiling like the Cheshire Cat because he's packing cockney rhyming slang up his sleeve, so Nik better buckle the fuck up.

[do-you-ship-this-taz-ship]

this only kinda fits the blog theme i apologize, but i have thoughts on which set of the players PCs would function the best as a polycule and you asked for asks. (I am including all the main campaigns and very inconsistently some liveshow/smaller arc PCs if I feel like it.)

I think Justin's characters wouldn't have a lot in common, so that's a major hurdle. Duck and Taako might hook up, or Taako and Sebastian, and maybe Amber and Godwin, but besides them, it's hard to really pair anyone up. Maybe Pepsi Liberty and Opera Man, but it would have to be exclusively while Opera Man is in Opera Man form. And no one would want to fuck Augustus. (He would be into Godwin but it's unreciprocated). Bad polycule. There's no poly here.

Travis's characters would be better! I think Aubrey and Devo would clash a lot initially, but eventually they'd get along pretty well, I could see them dating. Aubrey is into Magnus this is fact, he is canonically her favorite podcast character and I know firsthand that means she would fuck him if given the opportunity. It's debatable if he would reciprocate, I can't decide -- the age gap might make him uncomfortable, but he definitely likes her, at least platonically, they're friends. Magnus Beef and Mutt would def get along. Maybe Shoots also. So at the very least we have one triad+ and one couple, maybe with a connection between them. Decent polycule!

Clint's characters would get along super well I think. Zoox and Argo would be significantly younger than the others, and I don't think either of them would really be into the old guys, but they'd be friends, and maybe they could get together. And by maybe I mean definitely for the purposes of this thought experiment. And then all the old dudes (Merle, Ned, debatably Thacker, Emerich, Phileaux, possibly Benny Gene) are together in whatever combination (Merle/Ned and Thacker/Emerich for sure, and I think Merle might find Phileaux annoying but he'd still hatefuck him) Old man yaoi polycule with two younger guys sitting it out. Pretty good!

Griffin has less characters, which is both an advantage and not. Fitzroy isn't fucking anyone (might be romancing someone, not that theres anyone for him to romance), but Errol Indrid and Montrose could for sure have something. Dell Kraven might be able to get in on that triad, it's debatable. And 48… dunno their pronouns theyre just a cube. Yeah I don't think they're into romance or sex or any sort of human relationship including friendship. 48 and Fitzroy hang out and Fitzroy tries to start up a conversation but 48 always brings it back to Tim McGraw who does not exist in Fitzroy's universe and it's a bad scene. Okay overall, but not great.

So in conclusion Clint's PCs win, Travis's get second place, then Griffin's, with Justin's coming dead last.

This was such a fun read even if I don't know a lot of the characters!! Thank you for sending it :) i'm glad to hear it confirmed, as i suspected, that clint makes the most fuckable PCs ����

What do you guys think?

[thebreakfastgenie]

No for real!!!!! The way some leftists on the site are trying to downplay the threat that is a 2nd trump presidency to just “well what’s he going to do? Probably just tweet or something he isnt going be that bad. He’s just an old man saying this you know he’s not going to do those things!” And then continue to drill in Joe and Kamala and then also turn around be like “remember to organize and build your communities” and while I’m not saying that isn’t true and important to do. But I think that quick turnaround of the messages just leaves a real bad taste in mouth.

Like you want me to organize with you, after all that??? That isn’t how you get people that aren’t within the same bubble as you to join your organization or your rally or hell even trust you really! You just come off as… republican-lite. And if you try to tell them how much worse it can be; they either brush off or they’re like “well Biden is already doing that so what more could trump do??” Well I dunno he keeps making people who are clearly not fit for the task apart his cabinet and they only got on because they’re his rich billionaires which will negatively affect us all bc you know they’re only going to be trying to keep their buddies rich and trying to push us into WW3 by wanting to “buy” Greenland and annex Canada!? Also changing the name of the Gulf of Mexico (and surprise surprise none of them are reblogging anything about this) like bud we kinda got more to worry about here than a genocide that’s occurring over seas at the moment.

It does sound Republican!! the "what's he going to do? probably just tweet thing" is identical to the "mean tweets" thing Republicans use to argue that Trump's only crime is maybe being a bit uncouth (which they of course like about him) and hysterical libs have Trump derangement syndrome over mean tweets. And like I said last time if you claim to hate both Republicans and Democrats but you only attack Democrats, well.....

Yeah the single issue thing drives me crazy. Aside from the fact that Trump is worse on that issue too (and the "how can it get worse??" people are so unserious, literally just look at what Trump says lol), okay fine there are no good options on that issue, that's terrible, we have to look for other avenues to address it besides American elections, what about all the other issues? The issues we can directly affect with American elections? Lots of those are life or death too.

I swear people forgot the cabinet appointments matter even though everyone was losing it over Betsy DeVos last time around. If Brainworm Kennedy gets confirmed by the senate things are going to get really bad.

The annex Canada/buy Greenland/Gulf of Mexico thing is so weird and on the one hand it's like. This is not normal and we should be talking about that. On the other hand he wanted to buy Greenland last time he was president, idk why people expected anything different from him.

[wendichester]

𓂃˖ ࣪ 𝔠𝔬𝔪𝔭𝔞𝔱𝔦𝔟𝔦𝔩𝔦𝔱𝔶 𝔯𝔢𝔞𝔡𝔦𝔫𝔤

˚₊‧꒰ა millie ☆ dean winchester ໒꒱ ‧₊˚ ⋆˙⟡ where cancer, pisces, virgo meets aquarius, leo*, saggitarius. ⟡˙⋆

𖤐⭒๋࣭ ⭑✧˖⋆𖤐⭒๋࣭ ⭑✧˖⋆𖤐⭒๋࣭ ⭑✧˖⋆𖤐⭒๋࣭ ⭑✧˖⋆𖤐⭒๋࣭ ⭑✧˖⋆𖤐⭒๋࣭ ⭑✧˖⋆𖤐⭒๋࣭ ⭑✧˖⋆𖤐

ꔛ. meeting each other,

✧ what's the most likely way for you two to meet?

this has messy, dramatic, and slightly reckless written all over it. with your pisces rising, you naturally draw people in with a dreamlike quality—there’s something about you that makes others want to figure you out. but that aries mars + leo venus? yeah, that’s pure fire. you don’t just sit around and wait for fate—you crash into it, headfirst. the most likely meeting? trouble. chaos. a situation that forces you to take action before you even have time to think about it. maybe you’re hunting solo and get in over your head. maybe you’re just trying to live a normal life ( spoiler: the universe isn’t letting that happen ). either way, you make one bold, impulsive decision—and suddenly, dean is there, stepping in like he does best, grumbling about how you almost got yourself killed.

✧ are you a hunter or a civilian?

with that aries mars + sagittarius jupiter, there’s no way you’re just some clueless bystander. if you weren’t born into hunting, you found your way to it somehow. you’ve got fire, drive, and the need to do something bigger than yourself—and honestly? dean respects the hell out of that.

✧ dean’s first impression of you?

oh, he’s interested. you walk in with that leo venus confidence, pisces rising mystery, and aries mars fire, and suddenly, dean winchester is watching you like a hawk. at first, he might not even realize why—he just knows there’s something about you that makes it impossible to look away. his sagittarius moon + venus means he’s drawn to bold, passionate, and wild energy—and you’ve got it. but his capricorn mercury makes him hesitant to show his hand too soon. he’s intrigued, but he’s also trying not to care too much, too fast. good luck with that.

ꔛ. friendship compatibility,

✧ how would the friendship be like?

this is one of those ride or die, but also constantly roasting each other friendships. you push each other’s buttons, challenge each other, and always have each other’s backs. you, with your virgo moon, bring a level of practicality and care that dean secretly loves. he may act all tough, but he notices the way you remember the little things, the way you make sure he eats when he’s too busy pretending he’s fine. and in return? he makes you feel alive—his energy, his recklessness, his ability to turn everything into an adventure—it balances out your more structured, overthinking side.

✧ how would it begin?

probably a bet, a dare, or some kind of competition. your leo venus means you like to show off a little ( don’t lie, you do ), and dean thrives off someone who can keep up with him. maybe it starts with a game of pool, maybe it’s a snarky argument over who’s the better shot. either way, he realizes pretty damn fast that you’re someone worth knowing.

✧ quirks and fun things about it:

✶ constant teasing. he calls you “princess,” “hotshot,” or something equally ridiculous just to get a reaction. you roll your eyes but secretly love it. ✶ mutual protectiveness. you both pretend you don’t care, but the moment someone else steps in to start shit? all bets are off. ✶ late-night talks in the impala. your cancer mercury loves deep conversations, and dean eventually opens up. keyword: eventually.

ꔛ. romantic compatibility,

✧ are you compatible? is there a chance for friendship to develop into more?

oh, absolutely. but it’s not gonna be easy. your leo venus and his sagittarius venus? instant attraction. instant heat. this is passion, adventure, and a little bit of chaos rolled into one. you both crave excitement in love, and neither of you are the type to settle for something dull. but here’s the catch—your virgo moon needs security, while dean’s sagittarius moon fears being tied down. you want depth, devotion, and stability, and he’s terrified of losing someone he loves. this means he might push you away just to keep himself from feeling too much. but if you break down those walls? it’s electric.

✧ what type of relationship would it be?

one word: explosive. this isn’t the kind of love that fades into the background—this is fireworks, adrenaline, and a love that feels like a battle half the time. you challenge each other, drive each other insane, and love each other fiercely. it’s hot, passionate, and a little dangerous—but when it’s good? it’s the kind of love people write songs about.

✧ what are your love languages according to the charts?

✶ you : words of affirmation & physical touch ( leo venus loves affection, cancer mercury needs reassurance ). ✶ dean : quality time & acts of service ( sagittarius venus loves adventure, capricorn mercury shows love through actions ). ✶ common ground : you both show love through effort—through the things you do for each other when no one else is watching.

ꔛ. scenario, ₊˚⊹౨ the type of couple you'd be ৎ ₊˚⊹

the kind that fights like hell but always finds their way back to each other. you’d have big arguments, bigger make-ups, and a connection that never fades. he tries to act all cool and detached, but your cancer sun + virgo moon makes him feel safe—and that scares the hell out of him. but at the end of the day? he’d always choose you.

ꔛ. overall, score : 8.5 / 10

this is passion, chaos, and love that burns bright. you challenge each other, push each other, and maybe even break each other’s hearts a little. but if you can meet in the middle? this could be the kind of love that lasts forever.

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* since the birth time of dean hasn't ever been mentioned, I've placed him as a leo rising, since it's the sign that makes more sense to me.

[cardinalcringe]

(And in case you don’t have a NYT subscription, here they all are):

“We don’t take an oath to a country. We don’t take an oath to a tribe. We don’t take an oath to a king or a queen, or to a tyrant or a dictator. And we don’t take an oath to a wannabe dictator.” - Mark Milley

“The president has very little understanding of what it means to be in the military, to fight ethically or to be governed by a uniform set of rules and practices.” - Richard Spencer

“President trump and other officials have repeatedly compromised our principles in pursuit of partisan advantage and personal gain.” - HR McMaster

“Donald trump is the first president in my lifetime who does not try to unite the American people- does not even pretend to try. Instead, he tries to divide us. We are witnessing the consequences of three years of this deliberate effort.” - James Mattis

“ I have a lot of concerns about Donald trump. I have said that he’s a threat to democracy.” - Mark Esper

“ a person who admires autocrats and murderers dictators. A person who has nothing but contempt for our democratic institutions, our Constitution, and the rule of law.”- John Kelly

“ I think the events of the capital, however, they occurred, were shocking. And it was something that, as I mentioned in my statement, I cannot put aside.”- Elaine Chao

“Unfortunately, the actions and rhetoric following the election, especially during this past week, threaten to tarnish these and other historical legacies of this administration. The attacks on the Capital were an assault on our democracy, and on the tradition of peaceful transitions of power of the United States of America, brought to the world.”- Alex Azar

“Moron.” - Rex Tillerson (re: trump, repeatedly)

“It’s more than just a bunch of papers and what big deal is this and so forth. Lives can be lost.” - Dan Coats

“I didn’t feel he did what he needed to do to stop what was happening.” -Betsy DeVos (a stupid bitch overall, but still right)

“It will always be, ‘Oh, yeah, you work for the guy who tried to overtake the government.’” - Mick Mulvaney

“The fact of the matter is he is a consummate, narcissist, and he constantly engages in reckless conduct that puts his political followers at risk and the conservative and Republican agenda at risk.” -Bill Barr

“By the time I left the White House, I was convinced he was not fit to be president… I think it is a danger for the United States if he gets a second term.” -John Bolton

“We need more seriousness, less noise, and leaders who are looking forward, not staring in the rearview mirror claiming victimhood.” - Mike Pompeo

“He asked me to put him over the Constitution, and I chose the Constitution, and I always will.” - Mike Pence

“He went down a path he shouldn’t have, and we shouldn’t have followed him, and we shouldn’t have listened to him. And we can’t let that ever happen again.” - Nikki Haley

Stupid. Selfish. Divisive. Authoritarian. Unserious. Tyrant. Professional Victim. Insurrectionist. Narcissist. Dangerous. Moron.

Trump’s best people sum him up.

[karkatwaddles]

Dude magnus goes through so much and it hurts me so bad. I think mags has some of the best character development in literally all of taz dude. Like even around the mark of magnus getting his body back merle snd taako joke around a lot, and of course they've all grown as characters but Magnus in my opinion really develops his character more than either of them from the ending of the eleventh hour. Like inside the stolen century is really when character work is best shown but outside of it i think Magnus has some of the best character work ever.

Dude Travis' characters are some of the best rounded out characters ever

Every single interaction and connection he has, his characters have, is always deep and emotional, be it negative like devo and amber / devo and literally anyone or something that is so beautiiful like magnus and julia / magnus and carey / aubrey and duck / aubrey and dani he puts so much work into his characters, into what he does, the way he develops them, especially as he gains experience. But like also with magnus it's one of the most increadible things to watch magnus go from this goofy guy to someone who cares about people, wants to protect people, loves the ones he surrounds himself with and has such a deep connection not only to the other pcs but also to so many npcs. He has a deep connection to carey that is one of the most heart wrenching things and with mags and ango the way he develops them and just also the way he develops julia and guiding griffin along into developing her more as a character is one of the most beautiful fuckign things. His characters grow and grow and become some of the best characterization and like. He works so hard to make them so human and he does such a good job with it. Like "Those are the arms that held my wife." Is SO fucking human. And like Magnus IS human but i mean it in a more like. Psychological sense. Magnus and Aubrey and Devo are SO fucking human

[scalecallerpeak]

Also how would you define the statuses in Bastion- Ascended refers to every kyrian with wings/those who successfully go through the Path but what does it mean to be a Disciple? Roles are obvious bc it's what everyone does- bearer, collector, watcher, spirit killer, various guard types in Loyalty and educators/carers in Humility etc, Hands and Paragons make sense too but I'm a bit confused on status/hierarchy after you ascend. (sorry for the dumb questions no pressure to answer immediately)

Basically the hierarchy of Bastion is pretty simple in its grand scheme:

Aspirants - Generally starts from the moment a Kyrian is brought to bastion. On that day their age is reset so that's why you hear '2 day old Aspirant' and that's a grown man. Aspirants start off more clueless than we imagine because Uther got it easy he was humanoid enough. Others may have to learn to walk or read before anything else.

Aspirant continues as they begin their trials and is also used as a generalized term for wingless Kyrian. Calling an Ascended Kyrian Aspirant would be an insult like calling them a churl or child.

Acolytes - Senior aspirants who have their temple already assigned and often help train other younger aspirants. They have been approved by the hand or paragon to join that Temple.

Now for the Acended:

Deciple - Deciple is generally the broad term for everything. A Deciple of Courage is a Bearer, a Deciple of Purity is a Watcher a Deciple of Loyalty is a Sentinel etc. They do have a secondary title for example Sophone is a Forgelite but officially she is a Disciple of Wisdom. The collectors have the most of the ese titles due to their broad range.

The spirit killers are technically Deciplies of Pruity and the Sphinx Master is strangely a Deciple of Loyalty despite being located at Purity. This is because all deciplies of purity must be Watchers nonexempt, and all deciplies of courage must be Barers. So it's a technicality.

Hands - Simply the second in command of their temple. Some have specific duties like the Path of Ascention, for Courage. Or the name records for Wisdom. A hand can accept someone into the Temple. However a Paragon can remove that person if they disagree.

A hand is an extremely important decision maybe more than the paragon. As a hand physically changes like a paragon to get bigger. And a hand will become paragon automatically on the Paragons death. A hand cannot be changed unless they betrayed bastion or die.

The Polemarch is technically the same level as a hand. However the polemarch track is different

Paragon - Head of the Temple, their word is law. Has direct links to the Archon. Essentially the highest rank a Kyrian can achieve other than:

Hand of the Archon (My AU only) - Devos is given this role after redeeming herself. And is given some of Kyrestias' power. She can challenge the Archon if needs be and technically now out ranks the Paragons.

[exvangelical-christian-nerd]

Some thoughts on "Hell is Forever"

TW religion, conservative Christianity

Hell is Forever is a bop. Musically I enjoy it a lot. And It's definitley one I'll go listen to separatelyfrom the others on occasion.

But

It is also probably the song that bothers me the most. And it does not bother me in a way I like. I've talked about before, how I like things that poke at my beliefs and make me ask questions. This one doesn't do that. This song is like a buzzing fly to my inner-theologian, and I think I figured out why (Ironically it might also be one of the reasons I enjoy it)

So I've been working on some of my series type content lately, including my devos. I'm trying to make a series based on the Hazbin songs (if that is something you're interested in let me know in the comments and I will try to tag you when I start posting them). Naturally this includes Hell is Forever.

The thing about Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss is that by their very nature they include some theology, but a good portion of it is hellaverse-ified. Some of it is theology and some Christian lore. It's part of the draw. Here's the diffrence between Hell is Forever, and most of the rest of it: Hell is Forever addresses real Theology, more or less directly. I'd say more than, possibly, any other part of either show so far.

Now before I go any farther let's make sure we all have the same definitions so my meaning doesn't get mixed up.

Real Theology= Theology actually believed by a fair portion of people.

Good Theology= Theology that is grounded and has biblical backing.

Bad Theology= Opposite of Good Theology

So yes, Hell is Forever has Real Theology. Here's the thing that gets me though: I wouldn't consider most of it Good Theology. In fact I would consider most of it Bad Theology.

Now the thing with Theology is that our interpretation of it is flawed. We don't know a lot and we don't agree on a lot. That's why there are tens of thousands of denominations. But the particular brand we get in this song is what I'm going to call "Bible Thumper Theology." Not all Bible Thumper Theology is necessarily Bad Theology, but plenty of it is. But honestly I have three major issues with Bible Thumper Theology. First is that it's weaponized. Whether your Theology is good or bad, using it as a weapon is risky business. Second, it's often pretty weak. Even if the theological concept is solid, their understanding of it is usually surface level at best. And third, so much of it is just cherry picking.

So here are the main theological points I identified in Hell is Forever. I'm not going to go deep into them now, because that would make this already long post way to long, and because I'm already planning on making posts specifically on them.

Hell is forever (Obviously)

Eye for an eye Theology (I don't know what else to call it)

Justification by the law (or works)

Justified k1ll1ng (which is obviously super yikes)

Now there are few others in there too, but I'd say these are the main ones. As I said I'm plannin to address these more later, though the first one, I'm still waffling on whether I want to tackle that or not. The primary reason being that I do believe eternal damnation is eternal (as much as I wish I didn't), however I am not going to join the fire and brimstone brigade. There are too many of them all ready. If I do tackle it, it will probably be about why I take issue with the fire and brimstone brigade.

But yes all that to say, Hell is Forever bothers me because it's essentially just Bible Thumper Theology, and Bible Thumper Theology annoys me because it's what makes the church as a whole look bad, and usually it is pretty Bad Theology.

Honestly most of the time someone starts spewing this kind of stuff at me, I can't help but think "Have you read your Bible, or do you just believe what your pastor tells you?" Is my theology flawless? Not a chance (If anyone ever says their's is, approach with extreme caution, or better yet don't approach at all). I am seeking and trying to sort out what I believe. And I'm growing.

Ironically, I think part of the thing I like about Hell is Forever is that the people spewing the bullshit are the villains. I have too often seen them up on a pedestal.

[leviathan--ships]

YOU 🫵.

🔥 7: In what ways does your f/o make you feel excited, giggly, happy, or positive?

❤️‍🩹 8. What is a deep or special memory between you and your f/o that means a lot to you/them?

🧠 9. What is something you love listening to your f/o talk extensively about, and what do they love hearing you elaborate on?

tell me about your twink bf who is so full from cigarettes please

AHHH! ME

He's died cause he ate to manie cigarettes 😨

[Link to original game] (answers under the cut of course)

🔥 - Dude it is so stupid how happy he makes me, he's literally just the definition of A Guy. I can't really explain it, I've always just liked those sorts of characters, and he's like, the epitome of them but with more flavor if that makes sense.

He's got good music taste, he's really funny, relatable, like, he's just so *gestures at nothing* y'know? I also may just be one of those fags, mayhaps 🤯

❤️‍🩹 - I think the one that always sticks out to me is when he went to get Franz's stuff back.

It's the first thing he did that made him seem safe compared to the others, especially because it wasn't just the important things like his computer and documents. It was the little things that made his apartment feel like it was his. Worn-out posters, CDs and tapes, bad movies, dumb little knick-knacks, bad photos he took when he was a kid, shit like that. It was clear he wasn't just doing a once over out of obligation, but that he spent a while going through everything and grabbing the things he'd want in if he was in the same situation.

And while he was scared at first, both from the knock on his door catching him off guard and opening it to see a guy he really didn't know and hadn't spoken to with two large bags filled with his stuff, it really did help separate him from the others in Franz's mind.

🧠 Dude, Franz legit would have his own little stool in Adam's darkroom to just sit and watch/listen to him work and yap about how all of it works. Especially now that he'd be able to shoot for more than sketchy stalking jobs and shitty gigs for Scott, he'd totally geek out about getting to do more artsy projects and using more than the cheapest film he could afford. Sure, it's complicated as hell, and he doesn't get all of the composition rules or chemistry behind developing, but seeing him get to be so open about it after years of his parents and friends putting it down and calling it stupid is well worth it.

Also, I will die on the hill that he's kind of an elitist industrial fan when it comes to music. Sure, he's not the type to call everyone who doesn't like the same music a poser, and most of the time, he's only half serious, but I think it'd lead to a ton of joke arguments.

Cause obviously Franz's taste is everything I like that would exist in and before 2007, which does not bode well in his favor. There's a lot they'd agree on, NIN, KMFDM, The Prodigy, Rammstein, some Depeche Mode probably, Einstrürzende Neubauten would be respectable, etc. And some of the new wave and other electronic stuff (Gary Numan, Wolfsheim, Keoki, Kraftwerk, etc.) wouldn't be terrible. But we have to be serious, the fact that he'd like shit like My Chem, FOB, Blink-182, Green Day, and other radio hits would NOT slide around Adam. I will not stand for emo Adam unless it's like, actually emotional hardcore, that man is only shown listening to Frontline Assembly, we have got to be real here. Of course, I'm sure there's some more mainstream stuff he'd like (obviously none of what I've mentioned is obscure besides like, maybe Einstrürzende, but you know what I mean), I've read at least one fic with him and Scott being into REM when they were teens, and I do like that one. Again, not a total "erm if they played more than one show 20 years ago where 5 people saw it and it was never recorded, I won't listen to it" kind of guy, but he's not just into radio shit. (Unlike some people *cough* me)

Oh, and I do think Franz is getting hit with the Devo beam, and unfortunately for him, I feel like that's just gonna end up with:

"Dude I don't get it, they're in stupid outfits, the music sounds like clown music, that guy's doing the worm standing up, like seriously-"

"No no no, you don't understand, there's a deep political message, 'Freedom of Choice' was a Carl's Jr ad that they're using to mock American consumerism while also turning it into a play on how people talk about all the change they want but can't get, but then complain about how its all too complicated and wish it was so easy, when they already have the ability to fix things if they'd just use it"

"Franz. Please. Look at what you're talking about, and then say that all over again"

"Nuh uh, you just don't get real music"

"THEY'RE QUOTING A TOILET PAPER COMMERCIAL WHILE MEOWING"

But it's all playful for the most part, and something they do really enjoy sharing with each other, even if it means Adam has to put up with "I Miss You" more often than he'd like.

I am not sorry for the yap fest, you asked and you shall receive.

[murderofsomeone]

What's up Mos, its me, creature, back with another interview, this time its lemon related

What music (genres and/or specific artists) do the characters like?

Does anyone in funkytown have unique clothing/jewelry?

Who is Garrett talking to in hip hop cherry pop?

What song have you had the most fun coming up with a story for?

What was the first song you came up with a story for?

What song has been the hardest to fit into the storyline?

What arc has been the most enjoyable to write so far?

What are some LD songs you want more people to listen to?

What items are baby lem not trusted with?

What are some items unique to funkytown?

If you could physically eat lemon demon songs what ones would you eat and why?

ironically a large amount of the cast don't really listen to music/have strong opinions on it, LD himself is one of the few denizens to have specific tastes (TMBG, Oingo Boingo, Talking Heads, Faith No More, DEVO, etc etc you know the pipeline). another character with defined music taste is indie cindy who likes lo-fi (obviously), hyper pop, and other scenecore genes.

funkytown is in a constant state of returning to a lack of identity, so as of right now most culture is just taken from human culture, but it definitely gets more abstract the longer something doesn't get interfered with.

zordechai the magnificent (wizard from the view-monster promo) has a side gig on running an ice cream shop, which is loosely based on the film. garrett is aware of zordechai's true identity during the song, hence why he's there to begin with.

lifetime achievement award and completely because the animation in my head is killer.

mold en mono is the reason the ncu exists beyond a simple concept. it was the first time I stylized Neil as he is now, drew the office fruits, "baby" lemon, and lucifer (who fun fact did not used to be a fruit object head, he was a demon in similar appearance as diablo).

I definitely end up having the most issues with bonus tracks (I don't think I used hardly any from damn skippy besides the instrumentals), but those are kinda an outlier since they aren't my focus to begin with. ones I particularly struggle(d) with are: chu chu rocket (got removed entirely since it's a cover), movie night, fire motif, hazel's modus operandi, bill watterson, consumer whore, between you and me, flamingo legs, everybody loves raymond, goosebumps (entirely because I don't read goosebumps), and ancient aliens (it's on its 3rd or 4th rewrite). this does NOT mean I don't like the songs it's just hard to write for them.

dinosaurchestra was complete smooth sailing and honestly my favorite arc, it's a nice change of pace from how serious things become and have been.

oh boy oh boy, listen to these: toy food, bottom line, funkytown (obviously), mold en mono (obviously), matches and nails, pineapple, behold the future, the machine with live backing, creepy, I know your name (crappy 4 track version), and happiest shit ever (some of the links might be broken/link to the wrong somgs my apollo cheese

lemon demon is actually a horrible influence and does not care if he carries any sharp objects, in fact he encourages it. baby lemon is smart enough to not do something stupid but that doesn't make him immune to getting grounded. I think the car keys and anyone else's phone is what he's banned from having access to, but this will not stop him

like I mentioned before, funkytown has an inherent lack of it's own culture, so any unique items would probably be the god relics like the magic 8 ball and spirit phone.

the machine because mmmm sheet metal

[sayitaliano]

Ti posso chiedere di raccontare/spiegare questa parte del monologo di Teresa Mannino sulla linguistica? Spero che ci sarà un video tagliato del suo monologo qui ma intanto sono sicura di non aver capito tutto

Ciao! Più che altro non ho idea di cosa sia successo perché sono andata a dormire praticamente dopo Russell Crowe lol Cerco di farmi un'idea su Raiplay (x) e poi vedo cosa dirti.

Provo a farti un riassunto, poi mi dici se c'è qualcosa su cui devo soffermarmi di più, se ti serve?

To start with, after a few jokes, she says that mentally we are stuck into the 5th century bc. In fact, as a philosopher back then, men (mankind) believe that everything that exists is for them. She then compares the word uomo (man) with donna (woman): in Italian "uomo" can be used both for mankind and male/masculine gender. So she asks "why man? (perché uomo?), we could say human kind or human animal" and states we're animals as well. We also have our DNA for the 70% similar to bananas and for the 98% to monkeys and primates in general (other jokes in between).

(I think this is the point of your question but anyway let me know) As humans, since we speak languages to communicate (while other animals/plants have other methods), we feel superior. And she basically says: "that's the same feeling that we Sicilian people have when someone from the North (Milan/Piedmont...) comes to Sicily, we speak to them in Sicilian and if that person doesn't understand we think that they're stupid: but it's not so, this person speaks another language. So we keep repeating the same sentence in Sicilian hoping the northerner will understand suddenly". She adds a sample sentence in Sicilian (don't ask me to write it cause I have no clue I speak another language as she said but it could be something like "cuccu cammini co' e arance 'n terra" BUT IDK what I did for sure I wrote it wrong) and says: "Even if we translated this sentence, it has no meaning anyway" and then asks Giletti (tv host, from Biella, Piedmont) to translate it (he asks for help to someone near him). She explains that sentence: "cu ccu" are two words that have different meaning just to confuse everyone better, and they mean "with whom" (con chi) and asks Giletti to repeat to help him learn Sicilian. The sentence translated sounds like "Con chi cammini con le arance che stanno per terra?" (with whom you walk with the oranges that are on the ground?). And indeed generally has no meaning but for Palermitani (people from Palermo), it means "with whom you walk with oranges that are fallen cause are rotten" -> who do you hang out with, rotten oranges = bad people? So she adds "It's pretty complex to get and one can understand it only if they have done a thesis on Camilleri (famous Sicillian author/writer who created Il Commissario Montalbano), but even with this background, we say that that person from the North is stupid".

She goes back speaking about the other ways of communication that plants and animals use and focuses on baboons that in order to cheer each other, they squeeze each other's... masculine genitals. "They acquire all the infos they need through that 'it's young' 'they will collaborate' (adds more fun stuff)". Then speaks about ants (formiche tagliafoglie= cutleaves?), and adds they're the smarter of all: "they pick up seeds as we used to do and have huge nests in which they cultivate mushrooms. They have been farming for 50 millions of years and didn't ruin anything we've been farming for 10.000 and have destroyed our planet. They were here when there were dinosaurs and survived the meteorite". So she says "Let's copy them, how does their society works? They're basically all female with a "mother queen" and a bunch of males. The "mother queen" decides the gender of the new borns and it's basically all females, except for a male or so every year for continuing the specie and nothing else." She adds a bunch of fun notes on this, how useful it is for them when it comes to exes and how happy male ants may be. "On the contrary, human animals prefer power ON other humans, men, women, childeren, nature... I like power too, but power OF laughing, making people laugh, dressing how I want, dancing on the street even if I embarass my daughter..." and ends by saying something like "if some stories/situations are still present maybe it's not time to ignore them and move on".

:)

[democracyunderground]

President-elect Trump has repeatedly pledged to dismantle the Department of Education, a decision that could radically reshape learning across America.

Why it matters: The Department of Education plays a crucial role in making education access and quality more equitable for students nationwide.

Abolishing the department and the accompanying changes are "an effort to strip the federal government of any ability to do good ... as a way to justify further defunding our public schools and colleges," Kelly Rosinger, an associate professor of education and public policy at Penn State, told Axios.

State of play: The Department of Education has been a punching bag for Republicans for decades. Ronald Reagan threatened to abolish it, and many inside the GOP have echoed Trump's calls for its end.

Rep. Thomas Massie (R-Ky.) last year said, "Unelected bureaucrats in Washington, D.C., should not be in charge of our children's intellectual and moral development," while introducing a bill to kill the department.

Driving the news: Elon Musk, one of President-elect Trump's most influential backers, posted a video to X Monday showing Trump boasting about closing the department and sending all education matters "back to the states."

The official 2024 GOP platform also calls for closing the Department of Education. Can Trump actually get rid of the department?

While not impossible, Trump's political pathway to abolishing the Department of Education is narrow.

Eliminating the department would require congressional action, likely including a supermajority of 60 votes in the Senate, the Washington Post reported.

Despite their 53-47 Senate majority, Republicans are unlikely to muster up the votes to circumvent the filibuster.

A House vote last year on an amendment eliminating the department failed after 60 Republicans joined Democrats opposing it, per the Post.

Flashback: Trump's animus toward the Department of Education isn't new. During his first term, he proposed merging the Education and Labor departments.

Betsy DeVos, Trump's previous secretary of education, was seen by many critics as anti-public education. What does the Department of Education do?

The Department of Education's budget funds a variety of programs to help students obtain a quality education.

The department funds Title I of the Elementary and Secondary Education Act, which provides supplemental funding to high-poverty K-12 school districts.

Head Start programs provide vital child care services for many low-income and rural communities across the country, Rosinger pointed out.

The department also administers Pell Grants, which help low-income students attend college.

The Office of Special Education Programs provides resources to support students with disabilities through age 21.

The department also collects national data on schools and enforces federal civil rights laws to prohibit discrimination.

Zoom in: The Department of Education is also the loan holder for most federal student loans.

What happens if the department is eliminated?

Project 2025, which Trump's allies have touted as the incoming administration's agenda, outlines plans to abolish the department, which it calls a "one-stop shop for the woke education cartel."

Instead, Project 2025 calls for redistributing various federal education programs across the government, while eliminating others or transferring them to the states.

For instance, it calls for management of Title I to be transferred to the Department of Health and Human Services. The department's civil rights office would join the Justice Department, and the Treasury Department would manage student loan collections and defaults.

What they're saying: These changes — from shifting programs across agencies, shuffling staff or losing experts in the field — could mean "chaos ahead," Rosinger said.

"When federal government programs are chaotic, it's going to disproportionately harm working-class families," she added.

What could happen to student loans?

While Trump has repeatedly railed against the Biden administration's student debt forgiveness efforts, Project 2025 takes aim at the federal government's role as a student loan lender.

Project 2025 says that income-driven repayment (IDR) plans have "proliferated beyond reason," and that a new IDR plan should be instituted that requires payments equal to 10% of a borrower's income for those earning above the poverty line.

It also calls for returning to a system where private lenders offer student loans. Private loans typically come with higher interest rates than federal loans.

There are also concerns the administration could narrow the scope of loans available to help students attain higher education, like eliminating Parent PLUS loans for undergraduates and graduate student PLUS loans — both of which Project 2025 calls for, Rosinger said.

How will this reshape American education?

These changes would profoundly alter American education.

For one, it will "decimate" the professional education bureaucracy, as Trump replaces career experts in their fields with political appointees, Rosinger said.

Between the lines: Even if the Department of Education is left intact, changes are likely, as the Trump administration is unlikely to continue the Biden administration's efforts to expand LGBTQ+ and gender equality protections or forgive student debt, Rosinger said.

The Trump administration could also transfer responsibility for accrediting universities and colleges to the states, she added.

That could see accreditation being "used as a lever" to discourage schools from pursuing Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion programs and affirmative action programs, Rosinger noted.

The bottom line: "Looking at Project 2025, the programs that are supporting trans students, that support low-income students, that support racially minoritized students, these are going to be the ones that are the most threatened," Rosinger said.

[mywifeleftme]

341: The Waitresses // Wasn't Tomorrow Wonderful?

Wasn't Tomorrow Wonderful? The Waitresses 1982, Polydor

The Waitresses were such a peculiar project: considered a borderline novelty band based on their two hit singles (no wave-y stripper anthem “I Know What Boys Like” and wondrous ska noel song “Christmas Wrapping”), their membership connects dots between the ‘70s Akron scene (Devo, Tin Huey), Television, the Psychedelic Furs, and John Zorn, and featured an actual waitress on lead vocals. Said waitress, Patty Donahue, was a true natural at the post-punk sprechgesang thing. For other singers, a flat affect was often a way to mask shyness or to de-emphasize the vocalist’s personality. Donahue was cool enough to simply be herself up there, sarcastic, fabulous, smart, and messy. She makes the lyrics sound so natural you assume she’s basically singing her diary—which is why not a day goes by without some bright young woman, who’s felt utterly seen by a song like “No Guilt,” giving a startled “Oh!” at the realization the very much male Chris Butler wrote all the words.

Their debut Wasn’t Tomorrow Wonderful? is often nearly as prog as it is punk (try to follow the zig-zagging “Quit” or “Heat Night”), the songs crammed with wild hairpin tempo changes and skronky bridges that somehow still sound like something you might hear playing over the PA at the grocery store. They need all that busy-ness to accommodate Butler’s absurdly verbose lyrics, which have the respect for meter of a jazzy spoken word recital (so none, I mean). The musicians need to really have their working boots on to keep this stuff feeling poppy, but for the most part they nail it with panache.

And those lyrics! I can think of few albums as legitimately clever as this one, even forty years on. Donahue’s glib performance of a young woman getting her shit together on “No Guilt” could describe any number of girls I knew in college and, from what I glean from social media anyway, still works for the present generation. And truly, today’s assembly line of singer-songwriters trying to score clout by writing the most withering lowercase boy-bye diss (see Kara Jackson’s damp “therapy” for one) wish they could do what Butler does with “Jimmy Tomorrow.” The potshots are sparkling (“There's nothing that's wrong with me / That money can't cure / But I don't want to be somebody else's / Learning experience / Some rich kid's way to spend his allowance”), but Butler understands that the woman in the story’s more intriguing than the bad ex, and by keeping her the focus of the monologue he finds both a pithy diagnosis of her social ailments (“It's what happens when your choices / Are narrowed to fashion or violence”) and her emotional ones (“I guess I set impossible goals / And I don’t know when to quit / Is that it?”). On an album with no ballads and little sentimentality, Donahue’s vocal finds something really resonant in these lines, even as the band absolutely goes off behind her. But for the Waitresses, angst was always best used as a springboard for a brilliant punchline, and they end the album with an all-timer: “My goals? / My goals are to find a cure for irony and make a fool out of God.”

The band didn’t last long (two LPs and an EP), and it’s not clear whether their very specific brand of schtick could’ve survived the transition from new wave to alternative rock without losing its dazzle. But Butler and Donahue deserve to be mentioned when the all-time great lyricist/vocalist tandems are discussed, because like a good kitchen / front of house pairing, they make a very complex business look seamless.

341/365

[forthedancingandthethriving]

This hall does not befit a king, and yet he uses it. He must be desperate.

The cloaked figure walks to the throne room of the royal castle of Devos. With a flick of his wrist, the door opens.

No guards, only the king on his throne.

"Who-?!"

The cloaked figure raises a hand, silencing the king. A yellow and orange cloak paints the floor below as they approach.

In mere moments, they're in front of King Umbra. Before he can even react, they touch his shoulder, their clawed hand covered in scars.

"Don't fret, King Umbra. I'm here to help you." The cloaked figure speaks, voice scratchy.

"You.. What do you mean?" Umbra glares, slowly standing. "I am King Umbra, I will not tolerate-"

"Does your title even matter?" The figure asks, moving back to the center of the throne room. "The other royals do not treat you with respect, and your kingdom revolts every other week."

The king falters.

"However.. I can help you."

The figure pulls down his hood, and Umbra scrambles back. He doesn't know what this person is. A Changeling, maybe? He's no cat, cats for sure. He has no ears, no snout, no whiskers. His skin is yellow and he has orange hair. Alarmingly, scars litter his face, and a bite mark is visible on the front of his neck. Like some sort of predator tried ripping it out.

"I am Disc, a Program." He speaks. "I can help you gain everything you've ever wanted, in return for something."

Umbra swallows. "What.. what would that be? What's a Program?"

Disc hums. "All I ask is that.. I take your place. I will be the king, and you will look from beyond."

"I-!"

"You'll still make important decisions." The Program cuts him off. "I will be a figurehead."

Umbra pauses before sighing.

What other choice did he have?

○●○

A letter arrives, dropped off by a black crow. One for each ruler.

Confusion. Apprehension. Tiredness.

The black envelope is opened, and the white paper is pulled out.

To the rulers of Harmonia,

You are formally invited to the coronation of Prince Damien Devos. Due to his father, King Umbra Devos, falling into a coma following a bout of sickness, the young prince has found it right to take his place in the world and better the kingdom of Devos.

It would be appreciated if you attend, yet understood if you do not. You are free to bring whoever you wish.

With warmest regards,

Prince Damien Devos

There were two sentiments shared. What in the world and..

"He has a SON?!"

○●○

"Are you okay, Unus?" Bliss asks, watching the fellow Muse press his paw against some clouds before standing upright.

"I am fine." He answers. "Just some pains, but yet I am excited for the prince's coronation. I'll be there to give my blessing, as I do believe he'll do well."

But he was just a bit concerned. He didn't remember there ever being a prince, and yet his mind told him there always was one. Odd.

[speccyfilmnerd]

Richard Elfman’s ‘Forbidden Zone’...

An Unknown, Absurdist, Avant-Garde Cult-Classic.

23.12.23

Overview

Forbidden Zone is what I, and many others, would consider a true hidden gem. Born from the underground alternative film scene of late 70s LA, the viewer is taken on a visual rollercoaster through the un-methodological madness of creator, director and producer Richard Elfman's mind, creating an experience unlike any other.

I highly recommend that you, if you haven't already, watch this movie. And you do it in a way that would support the people behind it. This is especially important to do for Forbidden Zone and films like it, for reasons I'll get into later… I'm aware that in the current and extremely annoying space of streaming it's tempting to delve into piracy but I'd advise against it. trust me it's worth it.

The Film Itself

The movie follows a french girl named ‘Frenchy’ (played by Marie-Pascale Elfman, the director's wife at the time) falling through a door in her basement into the sixth dimension. A place that is, for a lack of a better term, very horny. The hedonistic landscape consumes her and through a series of musical numbers she finds love and evil is conquered.

(Susan Tyrrell as Queen Doris)

This ‘evil’ is the scene stealing (reason I'm gay) Queen Doris, portrayed by the incredible Susan Tyrrell. Susan's performance is, in my opinion, the reason this film has had such an impact on me. Forbidden Zone is the reason I started taking film making seriously, not just as a hobby but as a career, and Queen Doris is the reason I love this movie. Her main musical number ‘witches egg’ is a charming and memorable scene (and I'm still upset it got taken off Spotify.) Her eye-catching appearance embodies the word camp. She's truly an incredible actress playing a delightful character that is a joy to see on the screen. I could turn this whole essay into a fan-girl spiel just about her, I adore her.

It would be impossible to brush over Hervé Villechaize’s Character, King Fausto. Although Fausto doesn't sing or dance, he does do something no other character does… he's the most annoying not-an-antagonist the entire realm has to offer. I mean, maybe I feel this way cuz I've got a massive crush on Doris and he doesn't realize how lucky he is- actually it is that. it's totally that. THE CHEATING SCUM!!!

(Danny Elfman as Satan with the Mystic Knights of the Oingo Boingo)

Something I've mentioned already is the music. Forbidden Zone features music written and performed by the Mystic Knight of the Oingo Boingo, more specifically it's leader Danny Elfman, the directors brother, and his right hand man Steve Bartek. The Knights also have an appearance in the film, Danny plays a Cab Calloway style interpretation of Satan while Steve and the other Knights dance behind him, dressed in long black cloaks and painted head to toe in gray makeup. And yes I see you, reader at the back scratching his head, it's that Danny Elfman.

Frenchy herself is another joy to watch, her sweet voice and ditsy personality are just another layer of charm for the viewer to lap up. Along with playing the lead, Marie was also the production designer. The film had a low budget (less than $90,000) and she did an exceptional job using what she had to create the stylised world of the sixth dimension. The overall visual look of the film is that of a live-action cartoon. Along with animated segments by John Muto which tie a lovely bow over the whole thing.

Production

It's no surprise that a film with such a low budget and small cast and crew would go through a lot before release. Richard Elfman himself recalls losing his house often in interviews, along with the finished film entirely. After several decades it was rightfully returned to him. Most of the cast and crew were paid very little or nothing at all, surprisingly I found a video of DEVO’s Gerald Casale saying he and his bandmates originally approached to do the film's music, but they refused after finding out how little money was in it.

Along with the film's actual composer, Danny and his band with Marie being actors, writer Mathew Bright and other crew members played characters on screen, even Richard has a small scene. This leads me to say how the film has a passion running through it. Unlike many other movies we see more and more of, Forbidden Zone was truly a creative adventure for all involved with no intention of making the most money possible. 

Richard, in 2019 said: "Doing anything original is taking a chance. Financially it bankrupted me and we lost our house. But I'm still glad I did it. 

Conclusion

Forbidden Zone is one of my favorite movies of all time, and I've seen a lot of movies. Once again, I recommend taking a look for yourself and supporting the artists behind it.

Interviews referenced/sources used:

Richard Elfman talking about the film in 2019:

rolling stone: