#Venom 2016

[sisterfrnkly]

every post-costa venom writer who chose to refer to sleeper as specifically/distinctly/solely the symbiote's spawn after these panels is a coward

[Image description: 5 screencaps from Venom Vol. 4: The Nativity show: first, Venom (that is, Eddie plus the Venom symbiote surrounding his head), looking through the glass containing their child. Their speech bubble, directed to their child, reads: "HELLO, DARLING." Out of the panel, a speech bubble from Liz Allan reads, "SERIOUSLY, BROCK?" ; second, Venom saying: "I LIKE TO STAY IN TOUCH WITH MY OTHER AS IT NURTURES THE OFFSPRING. TO... FEEL IT. AND SEE IT THROUGH OUR EYES INSTEAD OF JUST EDDIE'S." ; third, a headshot of Eddie, now with no visible sign of the symbiote, snarling and saying, "HUMAN TRIALS? WHO ARE YOU...WAIT, ARE YOU USING THIS ON YOURSELF? ARE YOU...GETTING HIGH OFF MY BABY'S SWEAT?" ; fourth, Eddie, from the thighs up, slamming his hand down Liz's desk and pointing at Liz/the viewer, saying, "YOUR JOB IS TO KEEP OUR BABY SAFE. AND WHILE YOU DO THAT, YOU CAN STUDY IT, FOR BOTH OF US. NOT EXPLOIT IT FOR YOURSELF. I KNEW YOU HAD TEETH, LIZ. I DIDN'T KNOW YOU WERE A VAMPIRE." ; fifth, Eddie, storming out of Liz's office, past Dr. Steve, saying, "IF I FIND OUT YOU'RE DOING ANYTHING OTHER THAN WATCHING OUR BABY, TAKING MEASUREMENTS AND SINGING IT LULLABIES..." End image description.]

[vulpinesaint]

YOU GUYS... VITAL NEW INFORMATION FROM THE VENOM COMICS... HE NEEDS MOUSE BITES TO LIVE...

[spacetess11]

No love, I need a hospital

Eddie wrote an article about the dinosaur colony that Venom and Eddie are helping. Unfortunately, it attracted the unwelcome attention of the Kraven. Now he's out for a new trophy.

Venom 2016 #156

I really can't believe that idiot forgot where the hospital was when he was there recently visit that priest !!

But he really did everything he could to help them and save Eddie.

[artblooger19moon]

VENOM (2016-2018) #1-165

[johannepetereric]

"Thank you, Spider-Woman" OMG SPIDER-WOMAN--

"Obviously my other trust you more than me," Very Obvious Bitter Voice. "I didn't know we were...expecting."

"The only reason [he] did what [he] did was to save you. I was going to drag your keister to jail.

"[He] showed me--in my head--that [his] previous children had all become monsters."

"It's true, Eddie. Didn't want my baby to be another monster." OMG!

"So give [him] a break, okay?"

"Wanted it to be a hero. A hero like you. Like Venom."

[kitausuret]

thinking about how from June 2017 - April 2018, Dr. Steven was written as like literally the most wonderful man in the universe and someone I would do literally anything for. even Dan Slott couldn't fuck him up completely (but one of his colorists did, but that's another story). but I think if I were to make a banner for Dust to Dust it would literally just be panels of Dr. Steven with little heart stickers and doodles for literally the best character to be introduced in Venom vol 3.

There's so much we don't know about him though!! What's his full name? Is "Dr. Steven" some kind of alias? What are his hobbies? Relationship status? How did he get into xenobiology? Does he keep a poster of Reed Richards in his apartment? Does he actually have a really normal and fairly stable life and supportive family? Is it possibly because he has worked around the likes of occasionally ex/current supervillains and criminals that he's just "Dr. Steven"?

I just think he's neat!!

[transrightsjimin]

i just finished reading the 2016 venom series and some thoughts

the start was awful to get through bc the host was just a very abusive pos to the symbiote and killed everyone and everyone and every page was full of dread

the dinosaur people arc was random but i did like it. some parts reminded me of earlier venom lore where he helped an underground commune. i loved the friendship between a dinosaur and that girl and i wish there was more of her but she was like immediately over caring about it all when the day was saved ??

there were some random chapters with spiderman and i loved how his humour became more apparent in the pages by the way the panels and 'pacing' were done. good stuff

buttt there were also chapters (some w spiderman i think? idk just too confusing) with the x-men (side characters i think??) which were so fucking random and im sure you had to have read 986364 other comics simultaneously to get where those stories were at or who anyone was. and the pages didn't show 'as seen in [previous edition of ___] / also see [series]' like the venom/spiderman pages did in the 80s

i just hated the random x-men chapters in general like why tf are they in space rn and so much seemed to have happened before it started but was never shown? and i know it's marvel but i hate the 'epic showdown between like 6 guys against another 6 guys' spread page. theres something about it that makes me so. not interested. im not cut out for comics man

the way the scientist guy was drawn felt rly mean like. yeah stylistic choices and we fat ppl exist but the way it was drawn for him felt like a charicature sometimes?

idgaf about mpreg stories but have to agree with the fandom that that arc was EXTREMELY wholesome. rarely seen eddie smile this much in the comic. i was SO confused though bc a scientist(?) called it a stillbirth but then the baby was alive and am i just misunderstanding what stillbirth means or??? no mention of it being a misunderstanding or anything. very confusing. maybe i also like the last arc bc it had one of the best art styles

[rubensmuse]

We here on tumblr.gov sure get into a lot of tiffs over what does and does not constitute monsterfucking. And the moment I laid eyes on this post, I knew I was gonna have to press-gang my bestie into creating this, our finest work,

The Monsterfucker Iceberg

@tinynaught pulled most of the names and did the initial sorting; I helped flesh it out and created the finished product. Feel free to fight amongst yourselves.

Order is based entirely on the looks you would get telling people you wanna fuck that; logistics were not strictly taken into account.

[loservenom]

VENOM (2016-2018) by MIKE COSTA

[tomhardymyking]

The season of the year in which we will watch: 𝗩𝗲𝗻𝗼𝗺 and 𝗘𝗱𝗱𝗶𝗲 𝗕𝗿𝗼𝗰𝗸 in 𝑽𝒆𝒏𝒐𝒎: 𝑻𝒉𝒆 𝑳𝒂𝒔𝒕 𝑫𝒂𝒏𝒄𝒆, interviews and premieres of the film, maybe the 𝑩𝒍𝒐𝒐𝒅 𝑶𝒏 𝑺𝒏𝒐𝒘 filming, and maybe new 𝑯𝒂𝒗𝒐𝒄 content, has come 🤩💓

(How beautiful autumn is, by the way 😍, although at first the change can be a little depressing 😅)

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Llegó la estación del año en el que veremos: a 𝗩𝗲𝗻𝗼𝗺 y 𝗘𝗱𝗱𝗶𝗲 𝗕𝗿𝗼𝗰𝗸 en 𝑽𝒆𝒏𝒐𝒎: 𝑬𝒍 Ú𝒍𝒕𝒊𝒎𝒐 𝑩𝒂𝒊𝒍𝒆, entrevistas y premieres de la película, quizás el rodaje de 𝑺𝒂𝒏𝒈𝒓𝒆 𝑬𝒏 𝑳𝒂 𝑵𝒊𝒆𝒗𝒆, y quizás nuevo contenido de 𝑯𝒂𝒗𝒐𝒄 🤩💓

(Qué bonito es el otoño, por cierto 😍, aunque al principio el cambio pueda deprimir un poco 😅)

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[sisterfrnkly]

30 years apart. i just

[image description: 2 screen shots show a section of a panel from Venom (2016) #150 and the full final page of Venom: The Hunger (1996) #4, respectively. The first shows Eddie's internal dialogue over a black, ripply background (cropped out for sizing is the white venom-spider symbol with the same ripple effect). Eddie's inner dialogue reads: "THIS IS A LOVE STORY." The second screen cap shows a full page of Venom's face, teeth and tongue on full display, popping a chocolate into their mouth (prior page, not shown, features Eddie gifting the symbiote a heart-shaped chocolate box). The top of the viewer's right shows Eddie's internal dialogue, reading: "--WE'RE GONNA LIVE HAPPILY EVER AFTER." and the viewer's bottom right shows a small, pink heart with "THE END" written in the centre. end description.]

[vulpinesaint]

[spacetess11]

My symbiote. My darling.

Eddie and Venom were separated. During their time apart, Eddie joined a special unit tasked with trapping and controlling aggresive symbiotes. One day, a few weeks after their breakup, Eddie was given a mission to capture Venom. When he met him again, he couldn't let him go and allow the task force to send it off the planet Earth.

Sooo anyway I started reading the Venom comics and I want to share the good Symbroc content for those who didint see anything from the comics ❤️😂 It's great you gyus 😂

Pickled Venom as a bonus:

Venom 2016 #6

[eddiebrockx]

⚠️ SPOILERS for Venom issues #164 and #165 (the 2016 to 2018 comics in general), Venom: The First Host, and the Venom comics in general. ⚠️

Incoming mini-essay! (TL;DR - Sleeper is the manifestation of everything I love about Venom as a comic series, Eddie and the Symbiote are top tier parents, and Spider-Woman is fucking awesome.)

Okay so, I know everyone jokes about issues 164 and 165 because “wow omg Eddie Brock is pregnant.” However, I feel like there isn’t a lot of discussion (that I’ve seen) around how Eddie and the Symbiote handled raising Sleeper because it reveals a lot about their growth up until that point.

It’s been previously established that the Symbiote has been through multiple abusive relationships in the past. The only people who have treated it relatively well as a host are Flash Thompson and, obviously, Eddie Brock. However, even in those relationships we see that it struggles with unhealthy tendencies. The most obvious being just hiding things to protect itself, which it has developed mostly as a coping mechanism (although sometimes it's just used as an easy way to create drama instead of as a sign of its trauma; the downside of having so many different people creating different comic arcs). Beyond itself, it has also seen all of it's children--Carnage, Riot, Lasher, Phage, Agony, and Scream--become incredibly violent in the hands of their hosts.

Because of this, it rightfully fears the idea of having any more children and seeing them become either like itself or its siblings. Comic issues #164 and #165 entirely focus on this idea because the Symbiote is going to spawn soon. Of course, usual Venom shenanigans ensue; people try to kidnap Eddie and the Symbiote, they escape, etc. But what's important is two things: 1) the Symbiote's dreams for the baby, and 2) we get to see Spider-Woman kick absolute ass.

In issue #165, we get these panels:

“It's true Eddie. Didn’t want my baby to be another monster. Wanted it to be a hero. A hero like you. Like Venom.”

I feel Eddie had a right to be upset at this point in time--what with not being told that your significant other is literally going to give birth--but he also doesn't at all slack on getting the Symbiote what it needs next. A quick run to Alchemax later, and they are able to (with some complications) deliver the new symbiote. They decide they will raise it separate from a host within the lab, Eddie and the Symbiote carefully watching over it's growth. Their main goal is to prepare it for a host, so hopefully it won't join its siblings.

Also (sort of a side rant) but I really want to emphasize how much I love Spider-Woman in this scenario. She, like a lot of people in Venom comic history, initially tries to attack Venom. However, upon learning that the Symbiote is pregnant, and seeing it's side of things, she promptly leaves them alone. On top of that, she steps in to rescue them, even when it wasn't necessary to do so. I don't know, I just really appreciate seeing her here. She rocks, and this also means she's one of the few characters who actually understands the relationship Eddie and the Symbiote have (and she doesn't want to destroy it).

"It's beautiful, Eddie." "It is."

I really loves this for a lot of reasons. Mostly because I'm weak to good parenting in stories, but I really want to emphasize how important it is that they're trying so hard. Eddie and the Symbiote have both been constantly fighting and internal and external struggle against the idea that they are a monster. Their mistakes have defined both of their lives. After a lot of trial and error--being broken up and reuniting again and again--that they are now taking steps to improve not only their relationship, but their overall lives and the life of their new kid.

And their new kid is absolutely overpowered. Sleeper is probably my favorite character in Venom history by a longshot. Sleeper is calm, cool, and collected, AND they're strong as hell. We get to see all of that and more displayed in Venom: First Host.

For those who haven't read it, the gist of this arc is that the Symbiote's first host--a Kree--is on a mission to find it again, along with a Skrull. Meanwhile, on Earth, Eddie and the Symbiote are trying to raise their baby in peace. They save the Kree from the Skrull, who then asks the Symbiote to return with him. It, of course, declines. And then the Kree goes absolutely nuts and tries to steal their kid so they're forced to make a sacrifice: the Symbiote goes with the Kree.

"If that is your choice...I honor it. You have my envy, Brock. You must be a great man." "No. Not great. But together we make something...more."

Stuff ensues. Eddie has to go on a rescue mission with the Skrull from before to save the Symbiote; and his kid is more than ready to help. Which, is awesome, because Sleeper is OP. They have the ability to camouflage themselves, secrete a pheromone that confuses the senses of those around them, AND can live with a dead host (they lobotomize the Kree guy and use his body to go have adventures after Eddie and the Symbiote reunite. All of this is awesome, but the only part I truly wish to highlight to you is this:

"We wanted better for you." "And I'll have it. This body is strong. There are depths of knowledge and memories in this mind. Worlds. Galaxies. I've been kept in a cage my whole life. There's so much to see out there. And I will see it. I know you did your best, father. But I don't need a cage anymore."

Sleeper has grown up; Sleeper is free. Thanks to Eddie and the Symbiote's efforts, Sleeper is their own individual. It's hard for them to accept their child leaving, but it's alright. Not only because Sleeper returns to them in the next couple of arcs anyways, but because they succeeded. While they had hoped that Sleeper would end up with a good host, they've instead given Sleeper the tools to be free on their own. They don't need to rely on a host's whims to be a hero, to be good.

It's powerful, and I love it. It's so compelling to see these character who have had such a difficult time finding themselves, finding their place in the world, raise such a strong and good individual. Sleeper goes on to be a vital asset in the King in Black arc (which I have words for, but I appreciate Sleeper's role in it) as well as a good big sibling to his human brother.

I can't even fully articulate how much I love this entire arc, just that it's the encapsulation of everything I really love about Venom. We get romance, we get parenthood, we get growth, we get all the good shit. I love it. Anyways, I'll leave you with that. I just wanted to share some of my many (many) thoughts about these comics.

[johannepetereric]

"Get that alien to soften your landing...This is a break-out."

[sixxtytoo]

they're in love shut up