#UNIT Dating
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sandymybeloved · 9 months ago
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an incomplete guide to UNIT Dating
I recently made and gave this presentation, so the information isn't entirely complete, but here. Basically I looked at every story the Brigadier appeared in and (with the help of this TARDIS wiki article) tried to put a date to all of them. some slides are missing to fit this into a single post, but not many and none essential
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doctorwhoisadhd · 8 months ago
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GOD I LOVE ANDY. HE IS SO TRULY ALWAYS GETTING PUT INTO SITUATIONS WITH GAY MEN IN THE PAST
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electricmeatorchestra · 5 months ago
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viewfromthelake · 2 years ago
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We really need an ongoing meme that's just frames of Donald Sutherland talking to Kevin Costner in JFK, but captioned with long-winded fan theories or explanations from genre fiction.
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birdofdawning · 1 year ago
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Oh for godsake, Helen, TELL HER
(That being said, I'm pleased the writers aren't gaslighting us about this whole thing, pretending we're seeing things that aren't there. And Helen's reasons for keeping quiet are understandable.)
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sentate · 6 months ago
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comradeyurika · 1 year ago
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Further proof that Chibnall and Moffat are on the wrong side of UNIT dating, since obviously everyone on the correct side knows that Doctor Who and the Silurians couldn't have been any earlier than 1979 when The Invasion takes place
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This is neat and also making me emotional
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dumbenstarsmemes · 5 months ago
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12am-motivation · 2 months ago
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i am back from the dead once again to bring to your attention
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SWOLOMON
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notfeelingthyaster · 6 months ago
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the way the older batboys cope with relationship trauma is that tim is a serial dater (cannot, will not, be single, would rather swallow glass, name the last time he was single), jason is a serial kisser (what's the name when you're not dating you're just kissing people? in brazil we call it "staying", like when you go out clubbing and kiss 10+ randoms) and dick is a serial cheater (i've said what i said)
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grandadtwelve · 2 years ago
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“UNIT DATING” CONTROVERSY
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UNIT “DATING” CONTROVERSY
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quailfence · 2 years ago
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[Image description: Gif of a cat frantically typing at a keyboard. End description.]
[Plain text: Okay, here we go. 
I’ll try to make this straightforward and just focus on the main stuff, since it can get unnecessarily complicated. The nature of the problem involves Brigadier Lethbridge-Stewart's personal timeline and UNIT's timeline on a fundamental level.
Mawdryn Undead (s20, serial 3)
Filmed and partially set in 1983, the dates used in this serial cause a lot of issues. in this story, there are two Brigadiers - one from 1977, and one from 1983. Long story short, the Brig retired from UNIT in 1976, got his memory erased in 1977, and forgot all about the existence of the Doctor. he moved to a boy's school and became a math teacher after retirement.
However, the Brig couldn't have retired in 1976, because UNIT first appeared in a story set in 1979:
The Invasion (s6, serial 3)
This serial is the first to ever feature UNIT, and the second to feature the Brig. though filmed in 1968, it's set about ten years in the future, around 1979.
The essential question: how could the Brig have retired from UNIT in 1976 if he was heading UNIT in 1979?
While it's possible that the Brig could've simply left retirement and returned to UNIT in 1979, he's clearly much older by this point in the show, as Nicholas Courtney had aged 15 years in real life. these images are dated by the Brigadier's appearance in that year within the show, not in that actual year:.]
[Image description: One: A collage of four photos of the Brigadier, two each from each of the stories mentioned so far. They show that the Brig looks younger in Doctor Who’s 1979 than in its 1977. 
Two: Two more photos of the Brig, this time from Doctor Who’s 1983, showing him as even older than in the other photos. End description.]
[Plain text: It gets interesting and even more complicated starting here:
Terrance Dicks tried to skirt this exact timeline issue with the Third Doctor by not using exact dates/years, but if we assume that Three's episodes were set around the time that they were filmed, 1970-1974, then the mindwipe would explain away the Brigadier's lack of memory in 1979; his mind was wiped in 1977 (Mawdryn Undead), which explains his relative unfamiliarity with the Doctor in 1979 (The Invasion). The Brig's memory of the Doctor was returned in 1983. 
but it still doesn't explain how the Brig had never heard of the Doctor or the TARDIS in 1983, before his memories were returned. End plain text.]
[Image description: A timeline. 1968 or 1971: UNIT is formed. 1970-1974 (question marks): the Third Doctor joins UNIT after his exile. This is a o painted by a photo of the Doctor and the Brig working together. 1976: the Brig retires from UNIT and becomes  a math teacher. This is accompanied by one of the 1976 photos from above. 1977: mindwipe! 1979: the Brig is in charge of UNIT and helps the Second Doctor, having never met Three. This is accompanied by one of the 1979 photos from above. 1983: the Brig has no memory of the Doctor, is still retired and is still a math professor - but gets his memories back. This is accompanied by one of the 1983 photos from above. End description].
[Plain text: Basically:
It’s a timetraveling clusterfuck that was probably caused by a lack of research into the history of the show, or just general carelessness with the assumption that people wouldn't notice. But we noticed.
The apparent discrepancy in UNIT history was obviously caused by the  Brigadier shorting out the time differential between 1977 and 1983.  Obviously all UNIT stories occur both in the contemporary present of filming and six years or more into the contemporary future, depending on whether Schrodinger has put his cat out today or not. End plain text.] @dw-described
okay, i’ll bite. what is the unit dating controversy
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OKAY, HERE WE GO
i'll try to make this straightforward and just focus on the main stuff, since it can get unnecessarily complicated. the nature of the problem involves Brigadier Lethbridge-Stewart's personal timeline and UNIT's timeline on a fundamental level.
Mawdryn Undead (s20, serial 3)
filmed and partially set in 1983, the dates used in this serial cause a lot of issues. in this story, there are two Brigadiers - one from 1977, and one from 1983. long story short, the Brig retired from UNIT in 1976, got his memory erased in 1977, and forgot all about the existence of the Doctor. he moved to a boy's school and became a math teacher after retirement.
however, the Brig couldn't have retired in 1976, because UNIT first appeared in a story set in 1979:
The Invasion (s6, serial 3)
this serial is the first to ever feature UNIT, and the second to feature the Brig. though filmed in 1968, it's set about ten years in the future, around 1979.
the essential question: how could the Brig have retired from UNIT in 1976 if he was heading UNIT in 1979?
while it's possible that the Brig could've simply left retirement and returned to UNIT in 1979, he's clearly much older by this point in the show, as Nicholas Courtney had aged 15 years in real life. these images are dated by the Brigadier's appearance in that year within the show, not in that actual year:
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he's obviously a bit older! and here's how the Brig would've looked just four years later in 1983:
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it gets interesting and even more complicated starting here:
Terrance Dicks tried to skirt this exact timeline issue with the Third Doctor by not using exact dates/years, but if we assume that Three's episodes were set around the time that they were filmed, 1970-1974, then the mindwipe would explain away the Brigadier's lack of memory in 1979; his mind was wiped in 1977 (Mawdryn Undead), which explains his relative unfamiliarity with the Doctor in 1979 (The Invasion). the Brig's memory of the Doctor was returned in 1983.
but it still doesn't explain how the Brig had never heard of the Doctor or the TARDIS in 1983, before his memories were returned.
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BASICALLY:
it's a timetraveling clusterfuck that was probably caused by a lack of research into the history of the show, or just general carelessness with the assumption that people wouldn't notice. but we noticed.
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doctorwhoisadhd · 8 months ago
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AWWWWWWW ANDY :)
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thismommyisforreal · 1 year ago
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msterpicasso · 7 months ago
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@jaeslv
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justinspoliticalcorner · 20 days ago
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Alaina Demopoulos at The Guardian:
McKenna, who is 24 and lives in a rural, conservative state, recently got back on dating apps after a year of finding herself. She had two first dates planned for this weekend, but after Donald Trump won the election, she cancelled both. “It’s heartbreaking to know that in this country you only matter if you’re a straight white man,” she said. “It’s just devastating that we’re at this point. So I will not let another man touch me until I have my rights back.” McKenna, who did not want her last name published for privacy reasons, first heard about 4B a few months ago, via a TikTok video referring to the South Korean social movement. The basic idea: women swear off heterosexual marriage, dating, sex and childbirth in protest against institutionalized misogyny and abuse. (It is called 4B in reference to these four specific no-nos.) The mostly online movement began around 2018 protests against revenge porn and grew into South Korea’s #MeToo-esque feminist wave.
In the wake of Trump’s victory, 4B is once again on McKenna’s mind – and she’s not the only one. Trump’s embrace of manosphere figures such as Joe Rogan, the Nelk Boys and Adin Ross means he has strong support among their evangelists – mainly, young men. But for young women, the former president’s long history of misogyny means a vote for Trump is a vote against feminism, especially with reproductive rights as a key issue in 2024. Ahead of the US election, pundits predicted a history-making gender gap, and early exit polls support that prediction: women aged 18-29 went overwhelmingly left, while Trump picked up ground with their male counterparts compared with 2020. With the race called, TikToks viewed hundreds of thousands of times offered one way for women to go for the jugular: 4B, specifically cutting off contact with men. “Girls it’s time to boycott all men! You lost your rights, and they lost the right to hit raw! 4b movement starts now!” one creator wrote on TiKTok in a video viewed 3.4m times. In another video, a woman exercises on a stair climber machine. “Building my dream body that no man will touch for the next 4 years,” reads the caption. The top comment on her post: “In the club, we all celibate.” On Wednesday, Google searches for “4B” spiked by 450%, with the most interest coming from Washington DC, Colorado, Vermont and Minnesota. In South Korea, 4B began as an offshoot of national protests against the spycam epidemic, in which perpetrators filmed targets – most of whom were women – during sex or while urinating in public bathrooms without their knowledge or consent.
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As with #MeToo in the US, men have called 4B an overreach, and discriminatory. South Korea’s conservative president, Yoon Suk Yeol, ran on a platform of abolishing the Ministry of Gender Equality and Family, which protects against gender-based violence and discrimination, saying feminists were to blame for the country’s economic woes.
Haein Shim, a South Korean activist and current undergraduate researcher at Stanford University’s Clayman Institute for Gender Research, said in an email that women who participated in 4B protests faced cyberbullying, harassment, stalking and threats of violence. “Many of us wore masks, sunglasses, and hats to cover our faces, and it was common practice to dress differently before and after a protest to minimize being stalked.” There were more nuanced critiques, too. “Some debated if it was a sustainable way to participate in feminism, because it was a total disconnect with men, and some people believe there have to be productive conversations among people with different world views in order for society to move forward,” Lee said. Feminists expressed concern over whether 4B “disregarded heterosexual women’s desires, in order to punish men who may or may not have participated in misogyny”.
Shim, the activist, says that 4B goes beyond just boycotting men, and encourages women to find solidarity with each other. “It’s a new lifestyle focused on building safe communities, both online and in-person, and valuing our existence in this crazy world,” she said. “What we want is not to be labeled simply as some man’s wife or girlfriend, but to have the independence to be free from the societal expectations that often limit women’s potential to be fully acknowledged as human beings.” Second wave feminist groups of the 1960s and 70s such as Cell 16, which advocated celibacy and separation from men, and political lesbians, who opted out of heterosexuality, were historically deemed as extreme – or simply trendy. 4B, a more contemporary movement that mostly lives online, may seem more accessible to gen Z women. On TikTok, 4B posts play as communal and therapeutic, a way to take back control during a time when basic rights are at stake.
Donald Trump's election, combined with the erosion of abortion access post-Roe, has fueled an angry backlash among feminist-inclined women by importing the South Korean 4B Movement to the States.
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