#True Arena

[baconmayoman]

honest nepo baby

[chowmoon2]

I just beat the True Arena and 100% Return to Dreamland Deluxe

Ngl,the True Arena wasn’t really that hard for me cause Tornado is OP,just really long.

Anyways,fun game!

(Now I can finally fully work on my fanfic after completing this game!)

[segasonic1991]

The only thing he dropped was an apple; He tried to help me

[skysometric]

new stream archive, in which i conquer the True Arena… but not before the game calls my bluff.

[voidchildstar]

Ok so I got kirby rtdl Deluxe (I 100%-ed main mode yesterday :D) and istg Magolor's soul in the true arena screams "KIRBY!!!" After you beat him AND ISTG IT SCARED ME SO BAD AT 1ST💀

Also I'm pretty sure that's the bad ending to rtdl cause we don't break the crown and free Magolor (despite him asking us too)- instead we seal him/the crown away so I'm pretty sure mago died

Also this means rtdl has 3 endings now (I think)

The normal 1 where we break the crown and free Magolor- magolor epilouge is how he returns to dreamland ((pun intended))

The good ending (???) Where mago actually just shows up and builds a theme park (merry magoland)

And the bad ending (???) Where the crown fully overpowers mago and we can't break it so he never gets freed (true arena)

Also it's cannon that the master crown feeds of the evil in somebody's heart and that other people that have fallen to it's power still power the crown (master crown battle description on the pause menu says it)

As for the theories of the crown being connected to zero idk but it seems believable enough-

[mr-hammer-exe]

HE’S BAAAACK!

[kamalemons]

Finally beat the true arena LET’S GOOOOO

god I did it 5 times with stone, mecha and (tried) sand…

Tornado’s what worked though. At least until losing it to black holes… I avoided them on the win, though!

[negativezero2]

I like how all the Kirby Arenas are like "we're gonna be hard, fair, and a moderate challenge!" And then the True Arenas are like "its time to suffer :)" and then Robobots TA puts a shotgun to your head and says "I hope you know know how to use invincibility frames"

And then Soul Melter EX looks at you with an RPG and says "catch!"

I've genuinely had to put a whole plan together what the fhak

[cringywhitedragon]

I don’t care who you are but Planet Robobot has to be the darkest game in the Kirby series because of one thing.

STAR DREAM SOUL OS.

I know President Haltman was a massive dick and all but not to the point that the man NEEDED TO HAVE HIS SOUL ERASED FROM EXISTENCE! Cheese and rice, this is dark and even for the dubiously cannon-ness the True Arena is in many Kirby games (I consider them to be cannon if Forgotten Land and RtDLDX have taught me).

This is the reason I love the concept of Planet Robobot and it’s final boss but also view it as utterly freaking terrifying

[lorekeeper-backset]

True Arena: Beaten!

[luck-of-the-drawings]

[OLD ART ALERT] A COLLECTION OF SCENES FROM THE GILLIONS CATSCRATCH ARC THAT BROUGHT ME GREAT JOY. i love fishy chips especially when its just gillion being delirious and violent and hostile

[starflungwaddledee]

just saw your latest comic and it was so cool!! (and made me gasp) i need to see what morpho dee looks like!

morpho dee! thank you for liking the comic and being interested in the design! here he is!

everybody's favourite (?) perpetually crying magical girl butterfly waddle dee!! what a happy and friendly little guy he looks to be!

[dragonpropaganda]

you should talk about your thoughts on rw fanon (looking with huge eyes)

Oh god, there's a lot of major misconceptions have concreted into fanon, mostly around ancient society and ascension.

First things first! Ascension is not death! They are entirely separate things treated entirely separately by the text of the game. I can see where the interpretation is coming from, but it doesn't really align with how the text treats either subject. Five Pebbles may want to remove the self destruction taboo, but from his reaction to the rot it's clear that he doesn't want to die. Conflation of ascension and death only comes up as an offhand possibility that pebbs makes on iterator 4chan, when he's going into the possibilities of scenarios that even the other sliverists are doubtful of! (let me make clear that I am not a sliverist by any means)

Ascension is more of talked about as a form of transcendence, yeah? A Bell, Eighteen Amber Beads talks about their sitution as being "To have grasped at the boundless infinites of the cosmic void…", not as them seeking an end to life.

The beta dialogue goes into more detail, mentioning the "infinities of time and space" and the "boundless fractal planes of spirit and reality...", though this dialogue was cut and it's hard to tell how much it reflects the concept as in the released game.

As for the cultural misconceptions... there's A Lot to talk about, but the first that comes to mind is the common conflation of the five natural urges and the christian concept of sin.

It is true that the negation of urges is mentioned by moon as an alternative method of ascension, but much of what we know about the culture of the people who the fandom calls the ancients (which makes discussion of the depths a mess but that's something for another post entirely) points towards the urges not being seen as shameful.

Even the first urge does not seem to be particularly scorned! Being a warrior is presented as a cause for bragging in the Shaded Citadel pearl, being comparable with being an artist and a fashion legend. The second urge, also does not seem to be suppressed. Multiple sources attribute some level of honour to parenthood! The aforementioned pearl also mentions Seventeen Axes, Fifteen Spoked Wheel as being a "Mother, Father and Spouse" without any hint of shamefulness. Nineteen Spades, Endless Reflections expresses pride about having progeny, mentioning it alongside their owned land and esteem among their peers.

After some peer review, an esteemed friend has told me to add a section on purposed organisms as well! This is not so much my area, so I might be a bit off on some things.

As moon says, the majority of purposed organisms were tubes in boxes, and that the primal fauna of the world are almost entirely extinct. A lot of the fandom seems to ignore the first part, and i can't say I blame them, but the evolution of the creatures is so much weirder than people think.

Concept art for the creatures has this interesting quality to it, where the organic parts of the creatures have an almost... melty quality to them.

In the concept art, the flesh appears as if it's almost defying the machinery to form an animal shape. It's as if it's conquering its own artificiality the way the foliage grows over the (stone, brick and concrete, not mostly metal as some think!) ruins.

Of course, it's hard to really tell how much of this reflects the finalised concept, most of the integration is much smoother in the game, in line with a seamless kind of biomechanical design. There was always an intention of biomechanical strangeness, as shown in this screenshot of the devlog before the term "slugcat" even existed!

That said, the melty nature of the concept art shows a level of wild change inherent the biomechanical nature of the creatures, as if they truly are the result of these "tubes in boxes" almost revolting against their own boxes.

and considering centipedes... some tubes may not have had boxes in the first place!

[gai-sucks-titties-in-my-basement]

Gai saw a man burn alive and longed to be engulfed in the same flames. His idea of heroism was tainted from the start, a sacrifice of self to power, so much power you die. Anything less is not good enough. He has never valued his life as anything other than his status and name. He wanted nothing more than to burn after he released the 8th gate. He was kept alive as punishment for his ego, Maito Gai needed to learn how to live life as a human being.

[skysometric]

new stream archive!... oh god. it's the true arena. god save us all.

[qui-gg]

Finished rtdldx 🥲

After everything kirby still loves him not matter what and magolor’s finally understanding that and I!!!!!! Won’t ever get over their friendship