#This goddam letter has been haunting me for the past two days
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luckyreds Ā· 2 months ago
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"I wrote to Johnny Martin, He wasn't there when I got hit, and I wanted to tell him what happened, tell him I was alive, and to take care of the men. He wrote me back January 12 1945."
Dear Bill,
I received your letter today ā€¦ Anything you asked me in the letter Iā€™ll do. You know that. As far as what went on after you left, youā€™ve probably read it in the papers ā€¦ it was plenty rough ā€¦ and Iā€™ll tell you later about who got it and who didnā€™t. Well, Bill ā€¦ Iā€™m going to see you whether it be soon or a long time, but Iā€™m going to see you no matter what ā€¦ Bill, when I got your letter, I was at the Co. CP. Of course, everyone was interested to hear from you. Well they said read it out loud. Well, the Co. and the rest of the company headquarters were there. I got halfway through and started to cry in front of all the guys. I just had to take off, Bill. Boy, I never felt so hollow inside in all my life. From now on when you write, please ā€¦ leave anything about your leg out of my letters. Just do it as a favor for me. I guess Iā€™m not near as good a man as I thought I was. Boy, for the first time, I never had any control of myself. When I heard you were hurt, I got all the poop I could, but you know where we were, and I couldnā€™t possibly get to see you. All the guys told me how you took it cooler than anybody yet. Laying there shooting the shit when you were hit like that. Some guys shit when they get nicked with a bullet and you get hit like that and just shoot the shit. Well, I just want to tell you right now, youā€™re so much better of a man than I am it isnā€™t even funny. I don't mean only in combat either. Youā€™re better than any officer or EM Iā€™ve ever seen or ever will, Youā€™re the first guy whom Iā€™ve ever met I could hit it with and itā€™s just because youā€™re such a swell guy ā€¦ For Godā€™s sake, Bill, donā€™t let it get you down ā€¦ I know youā€™re the kind of guy who will see it through to the end ā€¦ I expect to have a lot of fun when we get back to the States. Buddy, weā€™ll rip her apart when I get back. When I go to bed tonight, I am going to pray that I get a furlough to England. I hear they are going to send them out ā€¦ Well I suppose you want to know what changes there are in the battalion. Our CO is now Lieutenant Speirs from D Company. I think heā€™s the best one weā€™ve had yet. There is a new officer in charge of 2nd Platoon. Welsh is S-3 and we have a new S-2 officer. Nixon is Regiment S-3 ā€¦ Iā€™ll close now, and if I donā€™t get a couple of letters a week from you, Iā€™ll be disappointed ā€¦ So Long for now.
Your pal, ā€˜Jasonā€™ Martin
-Excerpt from Brothers in Battle, Best of friends.
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softschofield Ā· 5 years ago
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iā€™m so perpetually frustrated with the audience members who criticise 1917 for having ā€œno backstory or development for the charactersā€
like, yes, itā€™s subtle. because theyā€™re friends and friends donā€™t talk to each other like ā€œoh, yes, remember all these details of my life iā€™m conveniently and clearly reiterating for an omniscient third party?ā€ but fuck dude, if you pay attention and know basic facts about war or do your goddam research, there is SO MUCH DETAIL TO THEIR BACKSTORIES
like, just from one TINY DETAIL, you get so much: schofieldā€™s wounded stripe on the left sleeve of his uniform. to get a wounded stripe in world war 1, you had to be officially listed in dispatches as being a CASUALTY, not just having been in a field hospital, meaning the wound was BAD. but, wait, what kind of wound could be so well-hidden and subtle? it could be a gunshot wound or trenchfoot, but there were also two categories that could earn a soldier the wounded stripe: gas, or shellshock. itā€™s therefore entirely possible that he was suffering from trauma rather than a physical wound before he met blake. given that 60,000 rounds of field artillery and 45,000 rounds of heavy artillery were fired in the first DAY of fighting, and one german described the experience of the shelling as ā€œthe earth shook, the sky seemed like a boiling cauldron [...] the ability to think logically, and the feeling of gravity, both seemed to have been removedā€, shellshock is a very plausible diagnosis.
so, we know he fought in the somme, and we know which battle he fought, meaning he had been at the front for at the very LEAST 7 months. SEVEN MONTHS. that is a LONG time to be in the trenches, and it is a STAGGERING amount of time to have withstood the horror and still come out of it soft, gentle, and compassionate - think on THAT when yā€™all say schofield is a flat character. think about what kind of a person could kill and see people killed and live in the constant, crushing, claustrophobic terror and boredom and nothingĀ of the trenches for most likely LONGER than that and stay kind and quiet. NEED i say any the fuck more,Ā NEXT
just from that, we then know that blake did NOT fight in the somme, meaning he arrived at the front some time after november 1916. and, judging by his excited and fearful reaction to the front line trench before a predicted push, thereā€™s the distinct possibility he had never seen a battle, meaning his arrival can be placed after the 18th of december 1916 and that he was still deeply innocent.
if he arrived in december and the film begins on the 6th of april, that ALSO means that they had known each other at the most for just over 3 months, very possibly less, and that they had formed a very close bond in that time.
which brings me to my next point: where are their other friends? all the other soldiers are shown to have close-knit groups, so where are theirs? why is it only them? why are they even friends in the first place? why is blake, a new recruit who had only just arrived, already the same rank as a veteran who had been there for very possibly up to or more than a year? why is a veteran hanging around with a chattery, bushy-tailed, never-seen-battle replacement? why isnā€™t he hanging out with his own cohort of soldiers who has been there the same amount of time as him and could much more easily relate to his trauma and exhaustion? WHY is a middle-class-sounding guy even hanging around with a lower-class farmboy in the first place?
the most plausible answer? all of schofieldā€™s friends he went through training with are dead - probably in the somme - and heā€™s purposefully isolated himself to grieve with his survivorā€™s guilt. he was most likely wounded, lonely, and agonisingly depressed for months until a cheerful replacement arrived at the front and befriended him. and THATā€™S where schofieldā€™s fanatic devotion to him comes from, and THATā€™S what ā€œhe saved my lifeā€ means, more than in the literal sense - he was lost, and broken, and numb, and blake saved him.
furthermore, because boy have i got more, blakeā€™s backstory, in case someone out there has seen this film and still wants to hit me with that fucking ā€œwe know nothing about these charactersā€: we know he has an older brother, we know he has a female dog called myrtle, we know they live with their mum in a farm in the countryside with a cherry orchard, and we know his father isnā€™t in the picture and that he most likely hasnā€™t been for a long, long time, judging by blakeā€™s lack of bitterness and daddy issues, his closeness with his mother, and the fact he isnā€™t in blakeā€™s family photo. we know, from interviews, that he enlisted as soon as he came of age because his brother was an officer and he idolised him, and we know he was barely this side of 18.
another thing? the story about wilko. blake knows stories about men schofield has almost certainly known for far longer - but he didnā€™t interact and wasnā€™t told, and blake did, and he was more familiar with all of them and had stories to tell that schofield would have known if heā€™d been sitting in the same circle when the gossip was told. howā€™s THAT for subtle characterisation, chumps.
and if you just think about it, thereā€™s so much depth to blakeā€™s overly trusting nature - because heā€™s still naive, heā€™s still innocent, heā€™s still young. schofield tucks the things most special or necessary away in his inside pocket, whereā€™s it most safe, because heā€™s learned lessons the hard way; blake puts them carelessly in his trouser pockets where they could fall out. schofield keeps his rifle with him even as heā€™s going to fetch water for the german pilot; blake discards his rifle and leaves himself vulnerable. if you just LOOK, itā€™s all there!
FURTHERMORE, we know schofield is in his early 20s and older than blake. we know he has a much more refined accent, and we know from interviews that heā€™s from cookham, berkshire. we know he has two daughters and a wife (or a sister and nieces, itā€™s open to interpretation, go to town), we know he suffers from shellshock, we know he most likely couldnā€™t face going home on his last leave and instead stayed in france and gave his medal away to a french captain, we know the subject of home is deeply triggering for him, we know he refuses to talk about his daughters, we know that his family haunts him as much as he longs for it, and we know that he didnā€™t receive any mail from his wife - interesting, considering blake received a letter just telling him his dog was having puppies.
and donā€™t even get me started on theĀ ā€œlack of character developmentā€. watch me scream here about that.
also, some more backstory because now iā€™m on a fucking roll: lance corporals were typically the second-in-commands or heads of sections, of which there were 4 within each platoon, each comprising 12 soldiers,Ā it's likely blake and schofield were in command of different sections in the same platoon. where does that come into play? well, scho seemed to slip very easily into a position of authority when the convoy got stuck in the mud, didnā€™t he? MOVING ON.
more? i have more. another little tidbit: lieutenant leslie asks schofield and blake if they are his relief, and then asks when the fuck theyā€™re getting there when they say they arenā€™t. he and his men are exhausted and it was said by another soldier that ā€œthey had been blown to hell a few nights agoā€ - theyā€™ve clearly been at the front a long time, which, again, is interesting, considering front line soldiers were typically rotated back into reserve after 8 days. clearly, itā€™s been a lot longer than that, meaning order and routine have completely broken down and a new type of despair, hopelessness, and mess has taken root. there, more backstory again.Ā 
ā€œoh, itā€™s just a shitty saving private ryanā€Ā ā€œoh, itā€™s definitely no all quiet on the western frontā€. FIRST OF ALL, it fucking IS all quiet on the western front, have you literally even read it? baumer goes to such lengths to hardly ever use the word enemy because he doesnā€™t view the soldiers in the other trenches as bad, just as other innocents swept up in a war that no one should be fighting. he spends a whole chapter sobbing over the only man heā€™s ever killed in close combat. itā€™s a hundred times slower than 1917 and it hasnā€™t even GOT a plot. what the FUCK are you talking about?
oh, and itā€™s just saving private ryan? show me WHERE. a bunch of soldiers have to go into enemy territory to rescue a soldier because all his brothers have been killed in action and his family wants him home. two soldiers are sent into enemy territory with a letter to stop an attack. i am LITERALLY struggling to think of any more similarities than that and even THOSE are fucking reaching.
also, itā€™s literally a different war. who are you and why are you saying these things to me i am BEGGING you to please use your fucking head for just a few seconds and actually THINK
ā€œit was so convenient that the river just happened to take him to the devonsā€ ???Ā ā€œthe river. it goes thereā€ did you just entirely miss everything lauri told him? the river quite literally flows exactly past where he is supposed to go, thatā€™s the entire POINT, thatā€™s WHY he jumped into it, because he KNEW it would take him there, oh my GOD
ā€œif the convoy was going exactly where he needed to go, why didnā€™t erinmore tell him to meet it?ā€ i know it might be a shocking concept, but even a general may not have known exactly the route a convoy of trucks was going to take, especially in the confused wasteland the germans had left behind in their retreat. in fact, he might not have known about the convoy at all if they were coming from a different sector of the front - WHICH, guess what, THEY WERE. captain smith mentioned they crossed no manā€™s land just outside bapaume, which was much further south, in the old somme battlefields. scho and blakeā€™s trench was somewhere near boyelles, 11km north of bapaume.Ā 
ā€œitā€™s unbelievable that scho would just sit quietly and relax in the convoy truck, and then get out to give orders and take command, after what heā€™d just been through - and, plus, he would have gotten to Ć©coust quicker if heā€™d just walkedā€ thereā€™s this thing called trauma. shock. dissociating. compartmentalisation. just shutting down in the face of too much grief when you donā€™t have the time nor capacity to let yourself feel it, acknowledge it, register it. in the script, scho is said toĀ ā€œalmost disappear into the noise of the men.ā€ and, honestly, the emotional illusion of regaining a scrap of control over a situation he was utterly out of control of would have been enough to prompt him to get out and give orders - but as it is that wasnā€™t the only thing driving him: he was desperate, and an NCO, and he needed to go. ANDĀ ā€œhe would have gotten there quicker if heā€™d walkedā€?? ???????? first of all, he didnā€™t know that? second of all, scho said it would take them nine hours AT THE MOST to get there and, given the fact they werenā€™t attacking until dawn and it was most likely morning when he and blake set off, he wasnā€™t in a TERRIBLE rush. THIRD of all, it was a direct order from a captain. FOURTH OF ALL, do you really think he felt like walking all that way when a truck was RIGHT THERE?
ā€œthere are too many coincidencesā€ films are built on coincidences. they are conveniently put with a character who will end up being their soulmate at the end of it all. they conveniently uncover information that would take people in real life months to find. coincidences drive stories - one of the greatest tools of screenwriting?Ā ā€œdonā€™t write what would happen, write what could happen.ā€ what could happen is that scho finds a teenage girl and an orphaned baby sheltering in a ruined town - in a war. what could happen is that a convoy of trucks heading north towards the battle of arras logically uses the road running alongside a farmhouse. what could happen is that scho jumps into a river that he knows runs east. i just donā€™t understand what youā€™re trying to say
ā€œoooohh for soldiers on a life-or-death mission to save one of their brothers, they sure do take their time to sight-seeā€ theyā€™ve seen absolutely fucking nothing but the walls of a trench and the reserve camp for months. also, itā€™s pretty much just common sense to clear out a building before you turn your back on it and keep walking. also, they had 8 hours, scho ended up getting there in under two hours, and blake is allowed to feel more than one emotion at a time and to be excited about exploring new places, ESPECIALLY when itā€™s almost certain that neither he nor schofield had ever even been out of england. war or not, the french countryside was still beautiful and blake is allowed to appreciate that. next questionĀ 
ā€œhow was there a milk pail full of milk if there was no one around to milk the cowā€ german soldiers were stationed in the farmhouse before they got the order to move out.Ā ā€œtheyā€™re not long gone.ā€ they left an hour before hand, someone probably milked the cow before they knew they were leaving. you donā€™t have to read the script to have a functioning braincellĀ 
ā€œunbelievable that they werenā€™t killed by the tripwire explosionā€ it detonated in the tunnels, not in the bunker. they wanted to collapse the escape routes first and foremost. please, i am begging you, use your head
ā€œwhy did they pull an enemy out of the planeā€ basic human decency. i cannot believe i have to explain this concept. soldiers in the first world war were especially conscious of the humanity of the men in the other trench. you say blake had no character and then get mad when heā€™s shown to be so kind and selfless that heā€™ll burn himself rescuing a german. i donā€™t know what you want from me, get out of my kitchenĀ 
ā€œschofield was an idiot for stopping to interact with lauri and the babyā€ he was concussed. he knew there was somewhere he had to be but he didnā€™t remember what or where until he heard the church bells. also, for people who criticise theĀ ā€œlack of character development and backstoryā€, ya hate to see character building moments. it clearly wasnā€™t the first time heā€™s recited that poem to a baby. make the connection dipshitsĀ 
ā€œthe germans shot like fucking stormtroopers, how did they not hit him?ā€ point one: one of them was blind drunk. when muller is ranting while scho is strangling baumer, he says that maybe they should head back and that maybe they wonā€™t realise theyā€™ve been missing. the implication? either theyā€™ve gone AWOL, or theyā€™re stragglers from the retreat back to the new line. either way, at least one, and very possibly all of them are off their fucking faces, considering the one by the burning church tripped over his own goddamn feet chasing scho. point two: not in a thousand years would they have expected a lone english soldier to just pop up out of nowhere in ecoust. it was so unexpected that you really canā€™t blame them for being flustered and confused.
ā€œhow the FUCK did the letter survive the river in one piece?ā€ he put it in his tin. thereā€™s literally an entire 30 seconds of the convoy scene just devoted to showing scho tucking it in there. i donā€™t understand how i have to say this
ā€œitā€™s too gruesomeā€ aside from the hand in the corpse and the dead horses, where? where? also, itā€™s the first world war. i canā€™t believe what iā€™m hearing. who are you people
ā€œitā€™s not exciting enough, itā€™s slow, itā€™s dullā€ ITā€™S SUPPOSED TO SHOW THE CONSEQUENCES AND AFTERMATH OF WAR INSTED OF THE SHALLOW EXCITEMENT OF IT YOU DUNCE
in conclusion, suck my ASS anyone who says they didnā€™t have backstory or development or that there are ~raging plot holes~. FUCK
anyone who doesnā€™t want the actual soft and only good person in the world William Schofield to live a happy life in peace just isnā€™t valid and thatā€™s all iā€™ll ever say on the matter you fucking degenerate scum rotten tomato reviewers
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