#They’ve got a drive through Greggs… A DRIVE THROUGH GREGGS!
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Got nail glue in my eye.
Drove to the Cotswolds.
Decided the pub I chose for lunch was too boogie and we were in trackies.
Drove to a different pub.
Had lunch.
Went for a walk over a babbling brook.
Drove the rest of the way to Salisbury.
Was asleep by 8pm.
Got up at 10am.
Went to see some stones.
Drove home.
Did a detour.
All in all a good trip to Stonehenge.
#Highlights include:#I’ve got glue in my eye I’ll be 20 mins#What are those things in the road called you know the road holes#Ooh yeah this place looks way to boogie#Why are the buildings so yellow? They’re like the sun#He’s got no legs… He’s got no arms!#They’ve got a drive through Greggs… A DRIVE THROUGH GREGGS!#Even the North hasn’t got one of those (carried on from the drive through Greggs)#I was promised a car on fire for this traffic jam#And more I’ve already forgotten#Oh and you’ve lost 3 nails already was it worth getting nail glue in your eye?#No is the answer
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AI continues the Riko roast attempt N2
in this one you'll see still no Riko, confused Kevin and Neil's questionable PR skills.
"You know, I get it," Neil said. "Being raised as a superstar must be really, really difficult for you. Always a commodity, never a human being, not a single person in your family thinking you're worth a damn off the court—yeah, sounds rough. Kevin and I talk about your intricate and endless daddy issues all the time. I know it's not entirely your fault that you are mentally unbalanced and infected with these delusions of grandeur, and I know you're physically incapable of holding a decent conversation with anyone like every other normal human being can, but I don't think any of us should have to put up with this much of your bullshit. Pity only gets you so many concessions, and you used yours up about six insults ago. So please, please, just shut the fuck up and leave us alone. We'll come to your games in peace, and we'll buy your gear. But we'll only do that if you step aside and give me another go at this thing called life."
Neil watched Kevin in silence for several minutes before deciding that—for once—he had to say something. "Kevin, you're great on the court, and the star players in this league who don't know how to act around each other deserve a big applause. You're a great teammate, a solid community person, and a great player. And I'd take a red-hot Dirk Nowitzki in the Finals any day over you. I like a lot of the things that you do on and off the court. I just don't like you. And I'd really appreciate if you could just not be yourself around us. At least then we can have a conversation."
"Nah," Kevin replied after a long pause. "I'm going to be myself."
Taken aback, Neil nodded. "All right, Kevin. You can be yourself. But, you know, a few rules. First of all, you'll have to leave for all practice and shootarounds, and for team meals. I don't want you fucking up the guy's practice routine or spoiling his warm-up routine. And I don't want you parading around half-naked around the arena, much less take my job from me. And while we're on the subject of nudity, I can't have you acting like a jackass with a blown-up Pepsi banner on my back like some sort of tramp."
"Got it," Kevin replied. "I promise to do my best."
"Good. Now, I also need you to tone down your sarcasm, petulance, and dry wit," Neil added, "and stop throwing your mouth open like some sort of baby duck whenever you're excited about something. It's embarrassing. It makes you look like a little punk kid who's already finished with elementary school. Let's see, since you've become a star, your teammates have won five more playoff series and won one more NBA championship, which makes you the winningest player in the history of the team."
"Yeah, whatever. I'm the best."
Neil sighed. "Yes, Kevin, you are, and you know it. You're also the most hated. I know you probably don't want me to tell you this, but your public is starting to catch on to your royal punkiness. Fans are starting to ask when you're going to stop messing around and start being the good-natured soul that you truly are. And while they're asking, they're not as excited when they see you coming to the game anymore. Now that they're no longer getting everything for free, they're demanding a fraction of your paycheck and coming to games only if they've got a death wish.
A quick look at your recent numbers shows that you're never gonna be able to sustain your market value, so you're losing sponsors faster than a Zippy the Pinhead cartoon. I think it's time that you made some more changes to your image and get back to being the class clown. You're going to have to wear these goofy glasses that are now a part of your uniform. You're going to start speaking in a baby voice and begging reporters for softballs as if you were some poor, innocent baby who just wants to be noticed. Then, you're going to bring every scrap of lunch meat and grease-stained Kleenex into the locker room with you, and you're going to start sucking on garlic-flavored toothpicks as if you were some cheap wannabe poser trying to play the part of an intellectual.
And last, but not least, you're going to start jerking off and spraying your entire body with strong-smelling hairspray before going out for a road game, and after the game, you're going to do it again. And then, when you get home, you're going to do it some more. You'll also start sniffing your own armpits, licking them, and making weird comments like, 'Look at that freakin' blue streak in my dreary locks.' You're going to stand in front of your mirror and constantly ogle yourself in the toilet bowl. You're going to call yourself Ginger, gussy yourself up, and belt out 'White Wedding' in the shower, and if you have a date, you're going to purposely rip her clothes off and pretend that it was your idea all along."
"I'm sorry, but I'm going to ignore everything you just said, Neil," Kevin replied, trying to speak without giggling.
"Fine. So, then, what's your big idea, Kevin?"
"Oh, this is priceless." Kevin giggled maniacally, and his teammates yelled for him to shut the hell up.
"You're totally gonna be in movies," Neil said. "You're going to play the bad guy, but make sure you get the girl in the end. You're going to go undercover for weeks and sneak into death-metal concert events, where you're gonna stage fights, mess up everyone's hair, and drink bleach while being the absolute worst thing to ever hit a concert stage. People are gonna love it. You're going to start releasing dark, angst-filled folk-rock ballads, full of powerful emotion and heartache. You're going to start writing scathing criticism of the president and your teammates on your blog, but under a false identity so that nobody will recognize your name when you're actually being serious.
You're gonna get married, have two kids, and then have to suffer through a divorce that's so nasty that your ex-wife's going to get remarried within a month of the divorce. You're going to get beaten up regularly by her new boyfriend, who will be an enormous douche, and then have a car accident, and your legs will be broken so badly that you're going to need crutches. You're going to lose your job as a sportswriter, and then your wife's going to get fired from her job as a waitress because your friends will keep inviting her to your games. You're going to have to drive an old junker car that is crammed with mismatched parts, and you're going to have to flip yourself through traffic lights and weave in and out of oncoming cars while wearing a suit that's way too big for you. You'll bring hundreds of dollars of Taco Bell and Tostitos lunch meat into your home, and you'll be constantly sniffing your fingers like a dog, but somehow, that's going to work for you."
"Why don't you shut up?" Kevin demanded.
"I'm telling you, it's the perfect plan," Neil said Kevin finally stopped laughing and his cheeks began to redden.
"I'm sorry, but I don't get it."
"Well, all I can say is that you're damn lucky that the Sacramento Kings are playing against the San Jose Sharks this season, otherwise I'd lock you in your room right now, and I'd make you eat a full eight-course dinner," Neil replied. "I don't think you're ready for a Gregg Popovich type of coaching. I'll let you take the next couple of days to ponder this information."
"Uh, okay," Kevin said. "Thanks, Neil," he added quickly as he ran off to the bathroom to vomit in the toilet.
#i also tried to do one with Wymack's motivational speech and one of the lines it came up with was#the public thinks you're enough of a clown to play the games but too much of a pussy to actually win them#but then the page reloaded suddenly :(#aftg#neil josten#kevin day#aftg shitpost#funny#AI technology#this is the last one i swear
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Your latest daisy/sousa gifset ? Gorgeous, is the quote you used from a showrunner chloe or is it like from someone in the fandom also ie agent carter, everyone was white like the two main female characters were right and so was everyone else, and I don't think it had anything to do with the time period there are shows set way before that are 1000% more inclusive like anne with an e or black sails also no lgbtq characters although that's an issue aos had as well
Thank you!! :’) The quote I used is from Maurissa Tancharoen from this interview with Hypable. I’ll go ahead and give you the entire Daisy portion of that interview because it’s filled with gold.
On the romantic side of things, Chloe Bennet (and several of her co-stars) couldn’t be happier with Daisy’s choice of Daniel Sousa as her partner.
“He’s so stable, and so supportive, and so willing, and so understanding of who she is,” Bennet says. “[Daisy needs] that kind of stability in her life, and that support. And I think it doesn’t hurt that he’s a strapping young man!”
“She has become such a kind of a power house, physically,” Bennet continues. “I love that he kind of brings her down to Earth a little bit.”
For Enver Gjokaj, Sousa’s relationship to Daisy’s power was a crucial factor in their developing bond.
“They don’t seem to have a lot of [things] in common,” he notes, “But the fact that he’s attracted to strong women, and that he’s worked with strong women in his past, and that’s who he is — I think that becomes the foundation for a relationship. The fact [that Daisy’s power is] not threatening to him at all, that that’s actually a positive, that… made total sense to me.”
“And [Gjokaj] played it with such a quiet confidence, and just you’re so grounded,” Bennet continues. “Sousa is so grounded in himself, and he’s not threatened by her as an entity and by Quake, and it actually finds it slightly amusing. which I think is really sweet, actually.”
Clark Gregg also expressed a certain relief at Daisy’s choice, which he feels reflects maturity on the part of friend and castmate Bennet.
“One of the things that happens, especially when you do play a character for 200 years as I have… is that the life and art blend together,” he says, noting that it was challenging to repeatedly “watch Chloe/Daisy go through these various things and get her heart broken, and have people die.”
So “to have Enver show up and create — recreate — the new version [of Sousa], dealing with different kinds of stuff, was just cool!” Gregg says. The character’s new incarnation on Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. was “tough. Not calling attention to himself. It felt so real, and I love so much what he did, and the way that [he and Chloe] just kind of quietly backed into this thing that everybody has been rooting for. [It’s] such a testament to their work in the chaotic final season, and how lucky we were to get Enver. It’s just facts!”
For their part, showrunners Jeff Bell, Maurissa Tancharoen, and Jed Whedon felt it was critical that their cast of female characters be seen as much more than partners in relationships, regardless of how matters concluded.
“They’ve had relationships [but] we never defined them by that,” says Bell. “But Daisy hasn’t had great luck in the past, bad things that happened or it hasn’t worked out. And so when Enver showed up, it was more than we could have imagined. We’d hoped that they would have chemistry, and the fact that it worked so well was great.”
Bell also observes that even more significant than the romantic developments was Daisy’s re-formation of a new kind of family for herself.
It was important, he says to let Daisy’s sister “Kora come over at the end and [give] Daisy family to continue. So it wasn’t just ‘Now I have a boyfriend!’ It was like she had a new unit. I think that was something that happened organically through the force of the storytelling that was a nice thing that we hadn’t foreseen.”
“The whole drive of Daisy’s character arc was, she was in search for her identity. She was in search for her family and where she came from,” agrees Tancharon. “And what she stumbled upon was new one, and so at the end, it’s very clear that she is actually starting her own little family in space, with the man she loves and her actual sister.”
I really love this interview and I’ve loved EVERY interview the cast has done post-series. I don’t think I’ve ever shipped a couple quite so beloved by every single cast member, even people totally uninvolved like Clarke Gregg and Elizabeth Henstridge. This interview was especially sweet because Maurissa confirmed that Sousa and Daisy are in love, which we all though but it’s nice to get the showrunners backing that.
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Re: Agent Carter, even when it comes to the female characters Peggy Carter was the only one listed as main cast. Peggy, Jarvis, Jack, Sousa, and Dooley are main cast, Angie, Dottie, and Ana are credited as reoccurring. And Angie was only in s1 (she made a brief cameo in s2 in a dream sequence), and Ana was only in s2. Only Dottie was in both seasons 1 and 2 and she was a villain. So I don’t think I can even give Agent Carter credit for having white women in the show. It’s really bad if you can’t even have white women in your main cast.
Agent Carter had an issue with lack of women, lack of BIPOC cast, and lack of LGBT characters (like you said AOS also has that last issue). The writers of the show actually claimed at the time (because even back then people were calling them out for this) that they were just being “truthful to the time period”, which we all know is a crock of shit. As you said BIPOC and LGBT didn’t suddenly spring into existence in the 2000s and lots of other period piece shows include them as characters.
Also as I said in my previous post, the writers have this unsettling need to woobify and coddle bigots because “they’re a product of their time” and the writers are constantly justifying their behavior and actions and trying to make them seem sympathetic.
But not only that, the feminism felt incredibly shallow and performative.
For example, one of the famous “feminist” lines of the show was “I know my worth. Anyone else’s opinion doesn’t really matter.” Peggy said this after Jack Thompson took all the credit for her work and effort in s1. I remember at the time people were livid because that was a terrible message to be sending women and girls. It’s okay if a man steals your work so long as you believe in yourself...? No. Hell no. That’s not how society progresses forward. Peggy should NOT have accepted that outcome and should have FOUGHT Jack to demand he give her her proper credit. But she didn’t. She rolled over and took it, and we as an audience were supposed to applaud her for it.
Another “feminist moment” is when Sousa catches Peggy helping Howard Stark and the SSR think that she’s a terrorist. So after they arrest her they all take turns interviewing her and she calls them out, saying: “I conducted my own investigation because no one listens to me. I got away with it because no one looks at me, because unless I have your reports, your coffee, or your lunch, I’m invisible.” Except this isn’t exactly true. She wasn’t invisible to Sousa and she didn’t get away with it because he literally caught her. Since episode one Sousa was investigating a strange blonde-haired woman with a scar on her right shoulder who he believed was helping Howard Stark. That woman was Peggy. And he actually figured that out in episode 1x05 and tried to arrest in her 1x06. Given that this is only an 8 episode season Sousa knew about Peggy for almost half the season, but was hunting her for technically the whole season. How is that you being invisible? How is that you getting away with it? How??
Peggy continues and says: “You think you know me, but I've never been more than what each of you has created. [At Dooley] To you, I'm the stray kitten, left on your doorstep to be protected. [At Jack] The secretary turned damsel in distress. [At Sousa] The girl on the pedestal, transformed into some daft whore." This statement was also weird as fuck to me because Sousa never thought she was a whore, never called her a whore, and never accused her of being a whore, etc. When the SSR found out Peggy was helping Howard Stark they were trying to figure out why she would do it. A working theory was she was in love with him (a fair theory given Howard’s a bit of a womanizer and actually has hit on Peggy in the past). So Sousa (along with literally everyone else interviewing her) accused her of having an affair with Howard. But somehow only Sousa received that scalding drag, when technically it was true of everyone. Also how was he viewing her on a pedestal when he called her out all the time (during their “quirky banter”) and once again, investigated her for terrorism. Some pedestal huh. (This quote actually bugs me a lot because some people to this day will reference it as a reason to hate Sousa - “He was obsessed with her and then when he thought she was with Howard he called her a whore!” That never happened, that’s Peggy’s false version of events. I have eyes and a working brain and I watched the season myself and it’s simply untrue.)
Peggy will just say stuff that sound Cool and Empowering but if you break it down and analyze it, make no sense and mean absolutely nothing. It’s just cringey.
And let’s not even get in to the ableist implications of Peggy fantasizing about Sousa suddenly having two legs and being able to walk perfectly. That was her romantic vision of him. A version that could not only walk, but dance. Who throws aside his cane like it was just an accessory. Okay.
I really did not like Agent Carter at all (problematic stuff aside the actual plot sucked) but I watched the whole thing because I was a fan of Peggy Carter and Jarvis and I really wanted to make it work. When it was cancelled I didn’t cry about it, I was actually relieved I wouldn’t have to watch a third season. That show was just such a cringey, embarrassing mess.
Sorry for the long rant about it. It’s been a long time since I talked about this show and it still bothers me to this day because people reflect on the show so fondly and are still making petitions to bring it back as if it’s wasn’t a heaping mess.
Thank God Sousa was saved from that show. lol
Disclaimer to anyone reading this: Me hating the Agenter Carter show is not me hating Peggy Carter. Obviously I love my mans Sousa, and I also love Jarvis and Angie. I loved a lot of the characters and my issues with the show has to do with the showrunners and the writing.
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Intro - Kaleb Rayne
✹☾✮ (gregg sulkin. cismale. he/him ) It seems that KALEB RAYNE has been drawn to Beacon Hills. That’s probably because they are a 23/23 year old ALPHA WEREWOLF. When they arrived here a year ago, they were very ENTHUSIASTIC + DRIVEN, but since then, they’ve been known to be more STUBBORN + CYNICAL. They kinda remind me of making up for your father’s sins, fighting instinct for control, warm smiles, and a nostalgic longing for blurry memories. (ra. 20. est. they/them )
History
- The middle child born to the Alpha of the Rayne pack - a family feared and admired for their commitment to their animal side - Kaleb grew up living mostly off the grid with his family. He went to school to avoid suspicion, but they avoided going to town if possible outside of that. The pack hunted humans unashamedly; they were the enemy - inferior in the eyes of their alpha. As a consequence, almost every wolf over the age of 10 had blue eyes, Kaleb included. He was taught by his father to enjoy killing, to enjoy the thrill of the hunt and the way it felt to take a life, but secretly the whole thing made him feel ill. There was nothing enjoyable about watching the life leave the eyes of a creature so similar to him, he didn’t want to kill humans.
- When he was 12, a group of hunters attacked their pack during dinner - blowing wolfsbane in through a cracked window and killing everyone inside. Well...almost. Kaleb waited until the hunters were convinced they’d finished the job before dragging himself from the house barely alive and taking off in one direction, never looking back. He ran for a few hours at which time everything really sunk in as the adrenaline wore off. His pack was dead, his family was dead, he was the alpha now, and he refused to make the same mistakes his father had. He would build a new reputation to go along with his last name, one he could be proud of.
- Alone and devastated by the loss of well...everything, he entered the foster care system and was taken in by an aging couple who’d never been able to have children of their own. They were drawn to his determination and eagerness to succeed wherever possible - especially in school which he harbored a passion for as soon as he was able to really give it the time he wanted to. Knowledge was power, he and his family had chosen to live in ignorance for too long and he wanted to know everything he could about humanity - about the side of himself he’d never had the chance to harness.
- It was hard, but eventually he was able to get a firm handle on staying human and not giving in to the instincts that had driven his life for the first 12 years. He threw himself into his studies and took to the couple as if they were pack, building his life from the ground up all over again. By the time he’d finished his higher education, they’d both died leaving him alone once more. Having been left most everything in their will, he decided to stick a pin in a map and go wherever it landed, which just so happened to be Beacon Hills.
Present Day
- Fresh out of College and in a town where he knew nothing and no one, Kaleb got a job at a local bar - The Water Hole and used some of the money he’d inherited from the passing of Crystal and Robert Brown to rent a decent apartment a few blocks away.
- There’s something weird about Beacon Hills, he knows it. The last time he tried to leave city limits to visit with the alpha of a pack his father had broken ties with, every one of his instincts had told him to turn right back around so he had. There was something disorienting about it and he has a feeling it’s got a supernatural element to it.
- He plans to talk to the local pack - the McCall pack, he’s been told - about sticking around for a while since he’s on their terf.
- For the first time in a while, he’s been having nightmares about the day his pack was murdered. He relieves the event in snippets of disorienting color and wakes up gasping for breath like wolfsbane is destroying his lungs all over again. It’s unsettling to say the least and he hopes to get to the bottom of it before he can’t stand it anymore.
Personality
Kaleb is an outgoing and generally polite person with the drive and determination to get whatever task he sets his mind to done and done well. He’s quick-thinking and eager to learn both from his own mistakes and other’s, well aware that he doesn’t know a lot about the world all things considered.
However, he can be cynical and stubborn, automatically thinking that the people around him have only the worst intentions - a habit he’s trying to break himself of.
While not necessarily nice, he’s not rude or blunt. His curiosity can also get him into trouble at times, especially when he decides to stick his nose into other people’s business.
Headcanons
- Kaleb still has a tendency to overdo it with food considering he was often hunting for it when he and his family were living off the grid. Really, he always feels hungry and he has to limit the amount of food he keeps around the house.
- He loves learning, both in school and outside of it. Kaleb’s eager to absorb whatever information he can in order to better himself as both a person and an Alpha.
- He resents his father for the way he was brought up and for the ruthless and negative connotations he brought to his last name. The death of the human he killed on his tenth birthday still weighs on him along with the deaths of his family members.
- Being an alpha without a pack was almost unbearable at first, especially alongside being a kid without his family. The weight of his loneliness and failure were almost unbearable and while they still persist to this day, it’s to a lesser degree. Or at the very least, he’s desensitized to it.
- He’s very tactile. He doesn’t even realize it most of the time, but he is. Physical affection momentarily fills the void his pack left.
- He’s had friends, exclusively human friends for the past eleven years, but they’ve never been close enough to feel like pack. His foster parents were the closest thing he’s gotten since the day the Raynes were murdered.
- Since he joined the human world, so to speak, he’s kept his wolf under lock and key. He went from one extreme to another and has yet to find a healthy equilibrium.
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NitW: Day 10 [part 4]
Preface
The last time I had a gameplay session, I ended things off after unfortunately beginning an “evening hang-out” with Gregg before I finished exploring the town. I only missed out on visiting Angus at the video store and hiking out past the abandoned Food Donkey, but you never know what new faces Mae might run into, and I just want to experience everything. At this point though, I’ve accepted that it’s highly likely that I’ll play through the game a bit more to go through other routes anyway, so it’s fine to miss out on a bit here and there.
Ride the Chariot
When I got back into the game, things started back up with Mae and Gregg hanging out in Gregg and Angus’s apartment. I’m thankful for that because—between being flustered at the time of playing it and being so delayed in getting around to writing about it—I didn’t remember too much from it.
The scene opens up with Mae and Gregg admiring their “son,” the animatronic rabbit that they had painstakingly brought back to life, sort of. Shortly after, one of the two—I think it was Gregg—suggests that they could go to Donut Wolf. Mae is excited by the prospect since she hasn’t been there since she got back home. Gregg informs Mae that they have pancakes now, which had me mistakenly thinking this was an establishment similar to Ihop or Denny’s, but it’s now obvious to me that this is a donut place more similar to Dunkin Donuts.
Gregg also informs Mae that they can get there since they can use Bea’s car, and Angus can drive them. Of course, they have to ask him first, so the camera pans out a bit, showing that Angus has been in the apartment while they were having this discussion. He doesn’t seem especially excited about getting donuts, but he agrees to it.
Mae and Gregg celebrate by shouting what appears to be Donut Wolf’s slogan: “Ride the chariot! Into Donut Hell! Awoooooo!” I was incredulous at first, because I have a tough time imagining “hell” making it into any sort of advertisement, let alone suggesting that it would be a good idea to go there, but I’m down with it. It at least gives me the impression that this is a relatively small establishment if they’re getting away with that. It also just sounds pretty metal, so I can see why Mae and Gregg seem to really dig the place.
Flat
After a scene transition, the three are on the way to Donut Wolf in Bea’s car, with Angus driving, Gregg riding shotgun, and Mae in the back. Gregg and Mae are apparently in a conversation about how many people they’ve ever kissed. Mae has kissed two people—or one and a half?—which Gregg says isn’t all that many, but Mae counters that he’s kissed even less. (Which means Angus is the only person that Gregg has ever kissed? Assuming that that’s a thing they do anyway.)
The whole time Angus has just been silently driving, so Gregg and Mae try to engage him with conversation, but he’s not very responsive. Even when, after trying to ask him about Donut Wolf’s new pancakes, Mae acts out a funny scene: “Calling Doctor Flap Jackson. You’re needed in my belly.”
Suddenly, the car lurches into the air with a loud noise. I figure that Angus may have run over something, and he brings them to a stop. Mae is upset by this since she really wanted to get to Donut Wolf, and Gregg suggests that they could push the car. Angus just has everyone get out of the car first, so they can actually see what happened and what they need to do.
It turns out that they got a flat tire; maybe it was from running over something or maybe it burst on its own—it’s not clear. From here I don’t recall the exact details: mostly just the emotional energy, which may be precisely what overshadowed the details.
The gist of things is that Angus becomes quite frustrated with this turn of events—well, actually, that’s not accurate. His silence from earlier makes it seem like these were emotions that were already bubbling up, but the stress of getting a flat tire is causing things to boil over. One specific thing I recall is that Angus says he’s tired of having to be the “responsible one.” He also sends a bunch of barbs (figuratively) in Mae’s direction, indicating that she’s a major factor behind his frustrations.
Mae decides to step away and have a look around. Initially she has her mind on trying to find a way to fix a flat tire, despite there just being rocks and twigs out here in the woods, but she shortly finds her mind wandering to owls and, I think, if she could train one. She catches herself doing it, and I can relate to that.
Coming back to the car, Mae actually finds that they have a spare tire and informs the couple. Angus is relieved and Mae asks if she can help, but Angus bluntly says that he doesn’t trust her to not just get in the way.
(I’d like to keep going, but I’m pretty tired now. I’ll try to pick things back up tomorrow when the friends finally make it to Donut Wolf.)
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Analysis of a Scene: AoS 5x06 Fun and Games
Since it's been coming up lately, I'm going to do an analysis of one of my favorite scenes from Season 5, Fitz's proposal in 5x06. Not just about the proposal, either, but what happens after, which is also really significant and layered. Clark Gregg did such a great job directing this, and the whole episode, really. He's talked in interviews about how excited he was to get to film the proposals (both of them), and it shows in the care he took with this scene. I love how much he loves these characters.
We find Jemma staring into space (literally), which has got to remind her of the conversation with Fitz about finding something magnificent, and all the directions that thought might lead. So he's definitely on her mind in this moment.
The wistful look on her face is ambiguous. Because he told her not to react, we're not sure whether she can hear him or not at first. The way she looks down as he's talking works great as a fake-out, to keep us wondering.
He tells her everything he's been through to get here, but the way his voice breaks on "here you are" is the part that kills me. Every. Time.
The shaky little breaths he takes in between each phrase are all so incredibly effective, like he's shaking on the inside and it's super hard for him to keep himself in check. But he knows he cannot give himself away or it's all over.
Then he references the curse, an intimate and recurring theme with them. He doesn't deny it or say they aren't cursed. Instead, he points out how they have defied the cosmos at every turn. The universe can try to keep them apart, but it CAN'T stop them. Because they are so strong together they will beat the odds every time.
Side note: Now we can add death to the list of things they've defied to be together, though none of the characters will ever know what he said here. *sob*
The exhale right before he actually proposes is also, just wow. Like, he's summoning the courage, "Here goes nothing." It's never been easy for him to take big steps with Jemma, so this is such a great character moment.
Oh, and his little smile when he finally gets the words out. I am brought to life, then dead again.
When he realizes she's not just pretending, he panics a little and reaches out to touch her, a dangerous move, but he's desperate. And right on cue, Kasius arrives and breaks up their moment. They turn almost in unison, visually tying them together as the single unit they’ve always been.
I love the way the camera pushes in when she finally sees him, mimicking what she's feeling inside.
Fitz then slips into Doctor mode, to keep up appearances, but also, I think, to keep his emotions under control. The Doctor is way better at this than he is.
THE QUESTION WAS “WILL YOU MARRY ME?"!!!
The Doctor starts taking over a little more now, as Fitz uses Kasius' desire to be seen as a good host to get him to turn Jemma's hearing on.
The first words Jemma hears Fitz speak are "thank you."
Just to get into Kasius' head a little here, there are hints throughout 5A that he suffered abuse by his father. Fitz keenly picks up on this, probably because he knows the signs. For one thing, Kasius is easily manipulated by anyone with an air of authority. It also explains why he treats his slaves so poorly (abuse often begets abuse), his need to control, and his obsession with surface perfection (abusers are easily provoked, and the slightest imperfection can lead to a violent outburst). Later in the episode, Fitz will play on this more, sharing his own troubled history with his father in the Framework (with Jemma in hearing range, because he wants her to know it too).
On a related side note, I really, really want to see adolescent emo Kasius in S6, especially if his father is a villain or the big bad. The more I think about it, the more I like the idea. It would fit so well with the show's major themes of morality, good vs. evil, nature vs. nurture, and how we determine who is worthy of redemption. There are so many interesting places where it could go.
(I’ve run out of gifs and already spent too much time for this, so you’ll have to use your memory for the rest.)
But back to Fitz, who doesn't hear a word Kasius is saying. He's too caught up in staring at Jemma. What breaks him out of it is Kasius caressing her cheek, which drives him nuts. But if he reveals anything the jig is up, so he lets the Doctor take the wheel again.
If you go back and watch the scene you can see in the way Kasius first reacts to Fitz's (or, more accurately, the Doctor's) comment about the proper application of pain that he's hit a nerve. It clearly bothers Kasius. But he recovers quickly and pretends to appreciate the sentiment. Then he goes back to his role as welcoming host. And Fitz has absolutely nailed him in one conversation.
Credit for all gifs to @fitzsimmonssource
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End Game
Peter Pan, Once Upon a Time fanfiction
Couple: Reader x Pan
Pt2
Note: I’ve been re-watching OUAT and i’m on season three, which means my boii Peter is in it and it gave me inspiration for another story. It will have other parts, but I hope you enjoy! :D
Peter Pan had always been your favourite fairytale character growing up. The idea of never growing up and staying young and free forever just appealed to you. So when you found out that Henry had been taken to Neverland by Gregg and Tamara, you were the first person to offer to go with Emma and the rest of Henry’s family to save him.
Except they wouldn't let you go, as StoryBrooke was also under threat and they needed you to stay behind to ensure the safety of their people.
At first you were devastated, but you put those feelings behind you and focused on the main task at hand.
After securing the town and setting up watch towers and paroles at the town line, you headed back to the dock, dreaming of Neverland, but also praying for the safety of your best friend Henry.
Days turned into weeks, but each night you waited by the dock, never losing faith.
You once again finished your watch and made your way over to the dock. Except this night was colder than the rest, so you decided it would be best to head home early, as you hadn’t brought your coat.
Except something made you stay.
You weren't sure what it was. A sort of connection, pulling you towards the water. You lent over the barrier and peered into the distance, when something caught your eye.
The Jolly Roger.
You called out in excitement and a few of the towns people made there way over to you to see what the commotion was about. You turned to address them "Look! In the distance. It's Hook's ship. They've made it back!"
You watch as the group make there way off the ship and are embraced by endless hugs and questions, but there is only one person you are excited to see "Henry!"
When you see him alive and well you can't help but cry. You run up to him and pull him into a tight hug. "I'm so glad you're okay! I've missed you so much.”
You pull back to look at him and notice the uncertain look on his face "Err, thanks..." he stutters.
"Henry? Why are you acting like you've never seen me before. It's me... Y/N... your best friend!"
"Yeah I knew that, i'm just a little tired after the whole ordeal.”
"Oh my goodness of course! I'm so sorry I've been smothering you, go get some rest and i'll come over and see you tomorrow."
You drive over to Henry's house, stopping off at Granny's first to pick up his favourite cheese toastie and cinnamon hot chocolate. When you pull up on the drive, you notice Regina is out, so you let yourself in with the key under the mat like you usually do and make your way up to Henry's room.
You knock on the door and let yourself in to find Henry still asleep in bed. You place the food down on his desk and open up the curtains, causing Henry to groan and stir "Wake up sleepy head! It's already 2 o'clock. I brought you food from Granny's."
You sit on the edge of the bed, as Henry adjusts himself up into a sitting position "Hi Y/N, thanks."
"Sooo..." you sit there uncomfortably, not sure whether Henry would want to talk about what happened to him, but you were desperate to know.
"So what?" he looks at you questioningly.
You couldn’t hold back, too ecstatic to find out about your hero "How was Neverland? How was Peter Pan?! You know he's my favourite fairytale character! I want to hear everything about him!"
Henry raises his eyebrow at your questions "Well, his reputation definitely precedes him." he laughs "But before I get into all of the amazing things I can tell you about Neverland, how about we dig into that food? I'm starved."
You reach over and hand Henry his drink first, watching as he takes a sip. His face repulses at the taste of it "This is disgusting, who puts cinnamon in hot chocolate?"
You stand up and walk over to the food on the desk, trying to act as normal as possible, but realising what must have happened "I know right? Granny must have got confused and given me the wrong order."
You begin to rummage through the food bag, pulling each item out slowly "So tell me. Is Peter Pan as handsome as I picture him?"
Henry snorts quietly "Oh even more so."
You secretly pull the emergency dagger you keep on you out of the holster and make your way back over to the bed "Oh really?" You question. "Then why not show me yourself!"
You leap across the bed and land straddled on top of Henry/ the impostor, placing the knife against his throat.
He smirks at you and glares into your eyes "What gave me away?" He asks.
"Henry loves cinnamon hot chocolate." You stare directly back at him, as a way to show that you were not frightened "Peter Pan I presume."
He laughs darkly "My reputation really does precede me."
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hey fammmmm!!! i’m ras and this is tyson and he is a brand new muse that i am very much still feeling out. however, i already love him so much and i hope you do too!!!!
[ GREGG SULKIN, TWENTY-TWO, & HE/HIM ] TYSON GRACE is known as the GUARDIAN ANGEL around denver. they’ve lived here for ONE MONTH and are a FIREFIGHTER. THE LAST BURNING EMBERS OF A FIRE, STARGAZING FROM YOUR UNCOVERED JEEP, WATERCOLOR SUNRISES BEHIND MOUNTAINS ON YOUR MORNING RUN. [ RAS, SHE/HER, 18+, EST ]
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okay to start us off, tyson is a hella Soft kid. he has a good heart has almost insane levels of empathy compared to the general population — that being said, it’s not all happy and sunshine-y
he was born in new york city to a doctor and navy seal ; from a young age, he was brought up to serve and to help others. his dad was absent a lot over seas, but they had an extremely good relationship until he was killed during duty when tyson was twelve. at that point, tyson was determined to follow in his father’s footsteps.
he had already been an active child, participating in soccer, hockey, and lacrosse, and when he entered high school, he start junior rotc as well. tyson was well aware of the difficulties of becoming a navy seal and the horrendous training and physical requirements it took
after two years of community college, he began his seal training young af at 17 ( with guardian permission ) and graduated BUDS a little over a year later, the youngest in his class and in more than several years ; however, it was soon after that he dropped out — not because of the physical requirements, but rather the mental factor. as most realities are when compared to dreams, this one was harsher than tyson expected. he thought he had the strength to follow in his father’s footsteps, but he found he could not become the mindless soldier his commanding officer wanted, and so he dropped out.
he served out the rest of his contract in the navy
with an impressive physical resume beneath his belt and greatly changed by his experiences, he returned to new york city ( his mother, while supportive of his choice, was relieved to have him back ). however changed he was by the endeavors he had gone through, he remained kind and gentle and truly wanted a job where he could help people and thus joined the fire department where he could perhaps put his skills to better use.
it wasn’t long after his return that his mother passed away in a fatal car crash — tyson was on duty that night and arrived far too late. he was distraught.
however, the tragedy wouldn’t end there. saddled with the desire to make both his father and mother proud, threw himself into work. three months later, he lost his first victim ( a rather long time into his position, by many accounts ).
her name was quinn marie rose. her strawberry blonde hair was pulled back into two messy braids, all the better for tyson to look into those scared blue eyes. she was wearing a well worn fall out boy t-shirt and ripped denium jeans covered in doodles. the last thing she ever said was, “don’t let me fall. i don’t want to die, please.” ( ‘you’re not going to fall, just reach up and i got you’ ) and then she fell. she fell so so far.
tyson was distraught over this and took her death extremely personally (what if. what if. what it — perhaps she wouldn’t have died). he began seeing a trauma specialist and did not quit his job until nearly a month later when he decided he needed to get away from new york. the place held nothing but bad memories now.
so he sold his apartment and most of his belongings, packed up his jeep and started to drive west to his mother’s hometown: denver, a place he’d only visited a bare few times to see his grandmother when she was still alive. but there’d been a kind of peaceful magic there, and maybe that’s exactly what he needs.
he has been in denver for approximately one month. he still sees a therapist and struggles at times, though he is much more at peace.
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tyson LOVES stargazing. he’ll drive his jeep way out away from the city to look at the stars and sit there forever.
he’s considering going back to school now, but he’s unsure what for
he’s an early riser and loves to run early in the morning --- it’s not uncommon for him to be seen silhouetted by a sunrise
ppl close to him call him ‘tys’
he will probably never forget quinn, and he feels like he owes it to her and her family to not forget her. however, he is in a better place mentally about the whole situation, though he still feels a little uneasy during rescues involving heights
um.... i definitely got more but i can’t think rn lol
HMU IF U WANT PLOTS PLS!!!
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USA Football World Cup: Tyler Adams on the USA, Football World Cup qualifying, Jesse Marsch reunion
A fast idea practice as the mid-year blockbuster season draws near: If the US men's public group was a significant movie establishment, who might get front and center attention on the banners? Christian Pulisic is likely the most well-known answer. Weston McKinnie and Gio Reyna would likewise be in the discussion for Actor in a Leading Role status, to get an expression from the Oscars. Perhaps John Brooks or Zack Steffen for the more protective disapproved among us.
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In light of the USMNT's last three games, nonetheless, Tyler Adams may very well have a subtle solid case for a best position on the masthead. It's a fairly strong case given his restricted minutes; the savage protective midfielder in fact logged just 38 or more minutes, every one of them off the seat in Sunday's wild 3-2 Concacaf Nations League-prevailing upon win Mexico.
Adams didn't figure on the score sheet and played only 10 passes, finishing eight of them. It's more a question of where the group endured in his nonappearance as he worked his direction back from a back physical issue that reduced the last a long time of his club season with RB Leipzig. The weaknesses in the core of midfield without the 22-year-old's energy and chomp.
The ease with which Switzerland was permitted to go through the US press to spring their rebound win last week. The weakness to progress minutes in the brazen CNL elimination round rout of Honduras. The aggregate lift his straightforward presence gave in a finely-ready crossroads of the Mexico conflict. Mentor Gregg Berhalter affirmed. For more to know about Qatar World Cup Tickets Click here
Even a half-fit Adams is far desirable over none by any means, calling it totally fundamental to have the New York Red Bulls institute item in camp this window. I had meaningful discussions with Tyler ahead of time where his wellness was in uncertainty and I said tune in, in case you're 60%, 70%, we need to take you at any rate, since we need you being around this climate.
We need you seeing what this resembles, being with the folks, assisting, and it was extraordinary, said Berhalter. We knew there was no way of him playing Honduras. We knew there was restricted possibility that he could begin against Mexico. Furthermore, for us it was tied in with setting him in place to contribute, and that is actually what he did.
Discreetly powerful laborers like Adams are here and there neglected until they're nowhere to be found, and his physical issue forced stretches from the USMNT have underlined how uncommon his mix of ground inclusion, persistence and authority is in the player pool. He needed to attempt to beat the clock to acquire match minutes – and looks prone to get a decent portion of that in evenings agreeable versus Costa Rica yet keeps up with that the administration of his wellness has been taken care of moderately.
I was certainly restless to get on the field, he said in Tuesday's media accessibility. I got together with the group in Switzerland and realized I wasn't 100% prepared at this point, and I had to a ton of work to do to make those games. Yet, I don't get found taking a gander at the schedule. I did that when I got a physical a few years prior and time passes quickly when you begin to do that. For more to know about Qatar World Cup Tickets Click here
To the extent wellness levels, I feel great. I'm in a great spot, he added. In the two or three games I likely might have played more, partaken more, however they've worked effectively of being mindful of me and simply ensuring that after a few games I have the perfect measure of rest, then, at that point going into the [Leipzig] preseason.
Adams marked his first Red Bulls contract, a USL manage the subsequent group, only a couple a long time after his sixteenth birthday celebration, and stories of his mysterious fierceness and drive, even on the preparation ground, have flowed much more, tracing all the way back to his initial call-ups to US youth public groups.
The Nations League prize lifted joins the 2018 Supporters' Shield, 2016 USL Cup and 2017 Concacaf U-20 Championship titles on his vocation respects rundown and his strive after more, considerably more, is clear.
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Fewer kids on school buses translates into more traffic in Moncton neighbourhood
An increase in traffic is always a sure sign that students are back in school, but residents in one Moncton neighbourhood say delays this year are the worst they've ever seen.
It was brake lights and bumper to bumper traffic on Friday morning at the Ryan Road Roundabout in Moncton's north end.
"I've tried multiple routes to try and avoid that traffic to get to Riverview, but there's just no alternate route to avoid it," said north end resident Meahan Macpherson. "So you can't go around it you've got to go through it."
The neighbourhood is now home to four different schools and with COVID-19 limiting the number of kids allowed on each bus, many parents chose to do the morning drop off themselves.
"We did anticipate this year would be worse than years in the past, just because of the number of parents who chose to drive their children," said Gregg Ingersoll, the superintendent for Anglophone East School District.
Ingersoll says about 1,300 parents opted out of bussing their kids in August, but now, more than 400 of them want that decision reversed.
"We're getting anywhere from 10 to 15 or 20 a day that are contacting us saying that they now want to put their children back on the school bus," Ingersoll said.
MacPherson hopes that change comes sooner rather than later.
Thanks to the new daily traffic jam, his morning commute has more than doubled.
"It used to take 12 minutes to get to work before school started," MacPherson said. "First day of school it was half an hour, and it's been half an hour ever since."
Ryan Weagle's son attends Ecole le Sommet. For now, he walks to school every day, but Weagle worries what will happen when the weather changes.
"Traffic runs slower naturally when the inclement weather is here," Weagle said. "And then you've got additional children being transported to school by their parents in their cars, so yeah, there's going to be days when it's havoc on the roads."
The district says more buses can be added to try and offset some of the congestion, but they're waiting to see if traffic dies down before making that call.
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RAC 'BOY'
Picture this: it is mid-June, and you are ready to stick your teeth into festival season. Friday morning; you and your mates have just woken up at your Airbnb; you overslept so breakfast is hasty (depending on country: a pop into Greggs, or Wendy’s). 10:30am. You have all congregated in your absurd festival attire. Applying the finishing touches (stars, glitter, etc.) you get your group pictures for your socials. You don’t even need to go to the festival at this point, you have enough proof. As you all squeeze in the car and clamour over the AUX cord, you decide on something you can all enjoy. Now. You are sad because it is 2020 and obviously none of this can happen. It is the worst feeling. However, there is one album primed to lift your spirits this summer, and it is courtesy of RAC. ‘BOY’ is the third solo album from André Allen Anjos, the Portuguese-American producer best known as RAC. Having built a following for his spirited remixes for artists like The Shins, Phoenix and Lana Del Rey, his transformation to a solo artist has been fruitful. Anjos has produced one album every three years since 2014, and ‘BOY’ is a highlight: a wide-ranging, yet focused record that many can, and will, enjoy. It is tinged in sun, community and guitar licks. ‘BOY’ perfectly embodies that intoxicating youthful promise of hope, rejection and intrigue. Speaking of the process behind his latest project, Anjos commented: “I was just writing and writing and writing. I wrote so many demos, and I kept coming back to this theme of childhood.” The complexity of the world through the eyes of The Youth is a common fixture across ‘BOY’. On ‘Sweater’, Maddie Jay dreamily sings of her lover: “It‘s been a while since someone else’s jokes have made me smile” opens the song. With its cooed chorus and breezy arrangement, it is a ridiculously sweet track. ‘Oakland’ finds Winnetka Bowling League singing about the need to move on to somewhere else on an equally bouncy beat. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDc0S74IEz0 One of ‘BOY’’s biggest achievements is naturally encapsulating the perspective of a young person in 2020. As Anjos is 35, his teenage days are long behind him but ‘BOY’ is a body of work that can pass off as youthful. Lyrics like “Slim into some DM’s” and “They’ve all got their juul pods” appear on the album’s first proper track ‘Boomerang’. Lead single ‘Stuck on You’ features the line “I muted your ‘gram.” The bridge to ‘MIA’ goes: “Ever since you went MIA, I’ve been stuck in my bed all day, staring at my telephone screen, waiting for an SMS in your name.” You would not think at first glance this is music from someone 13 years into their career. It is only further helped by how entertaining these songs are. The former is a relatively low-key start. It is delightfully delicate; guitar flicks and carefully harmonised words create a sense of despondency above the pretty melody. ‘MIA’ is similarly despondent albeit very chirpy. Already geared for TikTok dominance with its overly performative vocals (“The fuck did I do?”), it is a really well fleshed out number. As for the aforementioned lead single, it is indeed a great single. Another sincere and heartfelt number, it is perfect to drive with the top down, after lockdown. RAC’s USP of guitar-inflected bops is what ties this project together. With a smattering of collaborators, his distinct sound anchors the narrative. ‘Next To You’, one of the album’s lesser moments, is spearheaded by a dominant riff. Emerson Leif’s feature is commendable, if only for having a more confrontational tone compared to the plethora of hushed dulcet voices. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csKxedk-KpA However a stand-out is ‘Passion’. Here, RAC works alongside Louis the Child, an electronic duo that have used the template of guitar-led EDM hits RAC laid out and taken it further. Together the two artists have chemistry in spades. With a chorus tempting you to join in (“Passion”, “Expression”, are stretched out, teasing a sing-along), it is a future festival favourite. With a daunting eighteen songs, you might be deterred from completion. However the final stretch picks it up. ‘Get A Life’ is so stupidly catchy. Instupendo softly moans over the dumbest of fun melodies whereas ‘Change the Story’ finds British neo-soul hero bringing his natural infectious energy into an organic bop. That is not to say this album is smooth sailing. As previously mentioned, eighteen songs is no walk in the park. Despite clocking in at forty-seven minutes (RAC’s shortest to date), there are eighteen tracks and not all of them can be winners. ‘Carefree’ is a shot in the foot; a song of such little interest that the terms ‘carefree’ and ‘thoughtless’ are interchangeable. Four of the eighteen are instrumental interludes which breeze by without notice. Stripping those away would tighten the record up and, at fourteen songs, would seem far more digestible. Saving one of the best to last, however, is ‘Better Days’. The third collaboration between RAC and St. Lucia, it is a cosy closer. Cinematic and nostalgic, it is a gorgeous slow-burner: school discos would be so lucky to employ this. Sure, this year is a festival-free nightmare but that does not mean you cannot pretend. RAC’s third record is his strongest so far; a relevant, slick sound with a kindred spirit. With some of his best writing and ever-improving production, it is a step in the right direction. ‘BOY’ might just make you nostalgic for something you never had. 'BOY' by RAC is out now via Counter Records
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Leaving Las Vegas - Final Thoughts & Discoveries
July 8, 2017
One more TB for the road
Las Vegas is a deceptive city, appearing as one thing but underneath, something else entirely. If you can remain in a bubble of gambling, drinking, and debauchery and move between air conditioned environments, you can forget reality here. But on the hot asphalt, your feet burn in your boots as you observe the defeated humanity creeping along in the deadly solar radiation. The land is on fire and everything is dust and decay.
There are more handicapped people here than anywhere I’ve seen. After just two days, we are on the Rad Detox to remove nuclear radiation. No one knows what really goes on at the Nevada Test Site or Area 51. I don’t expect real estate agents to disclose this to their prospective buyers in the many walled tract housing complexes going in with boxed in homes on tiny plots of land surrounded by rocks and dirt from the 200s-300s. Each of these communities comes with several mind control towers, some placed among the houses. Otherwise how else would they get people to volunteer to be in coops where they are harvested for negative energy every day? They are making real estate booms to create more human farms. After thoroughly neutralizing a large portion of this grid among new developments, the four black helicopters came out. This shows how important mind control is to them for getting people to comply with inhuman housing in an uninhabitable region.
A thermometer they forgot to rig! Our car thermometer and other thermometers in town read 106-107 while this one read 93 at around 11am on July 8.
One thing we know is that it’s hot in Las Vegas. The thermometer in our car read 113 degrees on average the entire trip. Our car is two years old, so it has a pretty new thermometer. The ten day weather forecast for Las Vegas a few days before we left had highs from 106 to 108 every day. It’s frequently in the one hundred teens now in desert areas, supposedly. No doubt, it’s hot. But it’s been hot my whole life and has not felt like it’s getting hotter, but the numbers go up. Deserts used to have highs in the high 90s to low 100s at the most. In addition to unreliable thermometers, last summer we also saw discrepancies of up to 25 degrees between reported highs and lows on the forecast and readings on our own thermometer! Every year it’s supposed to be the hottest year on record, so they’ve got to change the thermometers.
Orgone energy creates a spiraling vortex that removes pollution and restores natural clouds.
We covered about a third of the city, we estimate, and will need to come back at a more hospitable time of year to finish the job. Now I see that it was unrealistic that we would cover the entire city in a day and a half. Las Vegas is a difficult place to pull over to drop towerbusters, as many of the roads do not have parking on the side. We spent a lot of time driving into shopping centers and jumping out to find suitable hiding places for TBs. There was such an unfathomable amount of towers to bust, that every time we thought we were done with an area, more kept popping up around the corner. You can bust up to three towers comfortably with one towerbuster if they’re near each other. We did multiple busts wherever possible to save ammo, but if we felt that more was needed, we went ahead and busted towers individually. You can’t have too much orgonite. We make a conservative estimate of about 200 towers busted in Vegas, completing a grid into California, where Victorville and the high desert were thoroughly gifted in 2015. This created different and new weather conditions on the drive home, although our thermometer still read 109 (we take that to mean around 101 in real life).
Sky transmuting over giant stumps, leaving Las Vegas
Beginning transmuting skies in Primm, Nevada
We stopped in Primm at the Nevada border for lunch and tea and the sky above us was putting on the usual show we enjoy. There were still 150 TBs of the 300 we brought in the car, since we only needed about 150 for the portion of the city we gridded. The sky progressed through the transmutation process as we dined at the Flying J.
And got darker and more electrified...
The work in Vegas had farther reaching results than we imagined, and as we drove back into California, where we had gridded on the way over, we saw orgonite skies over the decimated land.
Orgonite sky over a decaying giant tree stump off I-15.
There were little splatters of orgone rains beneath the dark, electric skies near Baker and Barstow, CA. This happened just as I was saying that it might take a little while to see the results of the work! It was nice to get a confirmation that it was working.
The transmutation that leads to rain
We saw new cloud forms on this trip that we haven’t seen before. We saw some of this on the way into Las Vegas, but on the way home, this phenomenon was much more pronounced. There were grey streaks of cloud going from the land into the sky. At one point, east of Palmdale, which was also gifted thoroughly in 2015 and we continue to gift as needed, it looked like a plume of smoke going into the air. I waited to see what happened, and thought I would be calling fire stations to find out of there was a fire. But the plume quickly thinned out, and I saw that it was indeed a weather phenomenon, which was accompanied by a small rain with large drops. It was not a funnel cloud like in a tornado, but was much more smoke-like in its appearance.
Smoke-like cloud east of Palmdale
Smoky clouds thinning out as a little rain falls
Approaching Palmdale
I wasn’t the only one stopping to take a photo of this orgonite sky in Palmdale
Palmdale sunset
Distributing orgonite and seeing the positive changes is a spiritual practice. It is a prayer ritual in which you sacrifice money and time to make a huge impact in the lives of all living beings on Earth, as well as the Earth herself. Sometimes it isn’t until the job is done that you feel how much you put in. The rewards in the sky help push us on our way. Every place we’ve been has the same reaction to the life force energy. The skies always put on a spectacular show, better than any of the Vegas entertainment, food and drink. But the rewards occur in a higher dimension, so many cannot see them. Orgonite gifting has as much of an effect on human consciousness as it does on atmospheric cleaning. The expanded consciousness of humanity can clean the skies with a thought. Gregg Braden says we live in a constant state of prayer, so our minds must be purified that the best intentions manifest. Distributing orgonite is not artificially inducing consciousness expansion. It’s removing the frequency control that has suppressed the natural consciousness expansion, restoring the natural condition of humankind and the Earth.
Living desert sky
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GOP delays House vote on ‘compromise’ immigration bill
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GOP delays House vote on ‘compromise’ immigration bill
Republicans regroup after first immigration bill is voted down in the House; reaction and analysis on ‘The Five.’
This is a rush transcript from “The Five,” June 21, 2018. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.
DANA PERINO, CO-HOST: Hello, everyone. I’m Dana Perino along with Kimberly Guilfoyle, Juan Williams, Jesse Watters, and Greg Gutfeld. It’s 5 o’clock in New York City, and this is “The Five.”
Several big developments on immigration, house lawmakers rejecting a conservative bill introduced by house judiciary committee chairman Bob Goodlatte. As for what’s being called the compromise bill drafted by the Republican leadership, the vote on that is being delayed until tomorrow to try to shore up more support. Over at the White House, President Trump is continuing to going after Democrats after ending the controversial practice of separating migrant families.
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PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: My administration is also acting swiftly to address the illegal immigration crisis on the southern border, loopholes in our immigration laws all supported by extremist open border Democrats. People are suffering because of the Democrats. So, we’ve created and they’ve created and they’ve let it happen, a massive child smuggling industry. The worse everything looks, they think the better they’re going to do with respect to the blue wave, which is turning out frankly to be a red wave if you look at the poll. The Democrats are causing tremendous damage and destruction and lives by not doing something about this. And they know that.
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PERINO: The president reiterating that he doesn’t want to separate children from their parents but is still sticking by his zero tolerance policy.
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TRUMP: If we took zero tolerance away, you would be overrun. You’d have millions of people pouring through our border. If you took zero tolerance away, everybody would come right now. They’d be getting their little belongings, unfortunately, and they would be heading up. You would be — you would have a run on this country the likes of which nobody has ever seen.
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PERINO: And First Lady Melania Trump making a surprise visit to a detention center housing migrant children along the border in Texas. But her fashion choice appears to be overshadowing a trip. The first lady wearing a jacket bearing the words, I really don’t care, do you? A spokesperson responding to media speculation saying it’s a jacket. There was no hidden message. Having lived through mission accomplished for many years, I am sympathetic with the White House. Obviously, was not intended to show any sort of message. But back to the important thing at hand. Kimberly, the Republicans said we don’t have enough support for either of these bills. We have to stop and try to figure out a way to do that. There’s going to be a conference. I think they’re meeting right now behind closed doors. This is the third behind closed doors meeting they have had on this week. What do you think will happen and will that vote get enough — that vote get enough support tomorrow?
KIMBERLY GUILFOYLE, CO-HOST: I think, look, obviously, I’m for behind closed doors meeting. Hopefully they’re working on it and they’re building some, you know, coalition there. Getting some consensus to move. Obviously, they can tell that the American people want some resolution of this. The president would like something to come forward. However, I think it might be a little bit of a struggle because there is some pretty, you know, differing opinions and viewpoints and he also has his base he’s thinking about. He has, obviously, this issue which is on a tremendous amount of political attention. You’ve got midterm elections coming up. You know he campaigned on getting things done and making sure that he was going to make positive changes. He’s somebody who is very good at getting deals done. So, you know, I’m optimistic and that he’s going to get involved in this and try very hard to push on it. He’s got to get the votes. Right now they don’t have them, but it doesn’t mean that they won’t get them. And as for the fashion statement, I mean, it’s a jacket. Let’s relax.
PERINO: Jesse, the fact that the conservative bill passed today. The president said he supported both bills. But now that that one has failed, if it’s possible if the president said I am for this bill, I will give you cover on this bill, you should vote for it, that it could pass?
JESSE WATTERS, CO-HOST: The president can only do so much with the house. I mean, the dirty little secret is the open borders, cheap labors, big business lobby has a lot of power over Republicans. And we’re not going to get any help from the Democrats at all. So, there’s just no consensus and there’s nothing that’s ever going to be done on immigration. I don’t even think after the midterms it’s ever going to get done. And the Democrats when they had a super majority under Barack Obama they did nothing on immigration. The Democrats just want to blame Republicans for the issue and score political point. But I don’t think this whole separating families thing is a big winner for the Democrats. I think they’ve overplayed their hands. They’ve exposed themselves as complete open borders advocates. The president completely shut the deal down. He’s keeping families together. Now they’re complaining that they’re abusing children. Melania goes down and now they’re complaining about the jacket. You’re never going to get a win on this issue. I think like a normal issue like gas prices, healthcare, jobs, those are the things that actually affect the lives of everyday Americans. Yes, migrant families will tug at your heart strings and makes you feel sad and you want to find a solution, but it’s not going to be a driving issue for regular voters in the midterm elections.
PERINO: And, Greg, I had Congressman Burgess on the 2 o’clock show today.
GREG GUTFELD, CO-HOST: Good for you.
PERINO: I’m getting to a good point. He’s part of the — he’s a Texas congressman.
GUTFELD: Yeah.
PERINO: . a doctor, a conservative guy, he wanted both bills to pass. He decided to vote for them. And he’s on something called the immigration reform caucus. And I said, in the caucus do you actually have Democrats that are willing to come to the table on this? And he said no. That he has tried talking to them and that he can’t get anywhere. And he does think that they just want to be obstructionist.
Gregg: Yeah, I don’t think it’s about the kids. It’s always going to be about Trump. This is about 2016, and it’s about 2018 and 2020. It’s about elections. We know that what Trump does will never be enough. It will be seen as even less humane than what was before. So, the liberal opinion is this. If you split up families you’re a Nazi, whether the family is pretend or not you’re a Nazi. But if you keep them together you’re worse than a Nazi. So they actually have no solution. Liberals become paralyzed when faced with having to solve a problem. And the media puts some notion before facts so they just contribute to it.
So now you’re having critics of Trump actually arguing against their own wishes. So, now, OK, we’re going to keep the families together, or the pseudo families together, or whatever, you should be happy that they’re now detained. Now that’s awful. I have to give credit to CNN because I always bash CNN. But I said yesterday that a lot of these problems existed under Obama and they were really, really bad problems, but the media never talks about it. Finally, I think it was senator — I can’t remember the name of the senator — Baldwin? But, Brook Baldwin asked a very simple question. Can we throw that?
PERINO: Yes, sure, absolutely.
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UNINDENTIFIED FEMALE: Here’s a question for Democrats. So many people in this country are certainly outraged by the K-do’s, and the thermal blankets, and the facilities housing these kids, you know. They were all there in 2014 under President Obama. And my question to you, Senator Baldwin, is did you speak up against them then?
SEN. TAMMY BALDWIN (D), WISONSIN: You know, on this issue that we get into a moment where we’re making progress and then when it stalls, we turn around. I think we all need to continue to be focused on it and press it through.
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GUTFELD: So she just exposed how political this is.
WATTERS: Was that English? I didn’t understand a word she said.
GUTFELD: Yeah, yeah. They didn’t care before.
PERINO: And, actually — and before, Juan, Chuck Schumer has voted for wall funding before. And a lot of the money that is being talked about right now in the current bill that’s under consideration is $25 billion, so not necessary for all new wall. A lot of it is to shore up and to approve parts of the wall that we already have. But he says now that he can’t support it.
JUAN WILLIAMS, CO-HOST: Right. And remember, there was a deal between Democrats and the president. The president was one who backed out of that deal a long time ago. So, I think, to the contrary, what Greg was saying, I think you have a situation where you have evidence here, Republicans have the majority in the house, Republicans have the majority in the senate, and what you have is fights among Republicans that are continuing to paralyze their ability to pass any legislation. I think that’s what we’re seeing writ large today. Republicans can’t get it together and they have people literally fighting on the house floor. Congressman Mark Meadow of the freedom caucus going face-to-face, pointing, moving away, coming back to continue to fight with speaker.
PERINO: He said he was just being passionate.
WILLIAMS: Yeah, right. So, what you have here is a situation where the president, I think, contrary to what I’m hearing here is, the president likes the idea of saying it’s the Democrats’ fault. Remember, the president said this is the law. I can’t do anything about it. It’s up to the congress. Then he turns tail and signs executive order and, guess what, undoes it.
PERINO: But then.
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WATTERS: Because you know how soft executive orders are because everything Obama did was executive orders, and then Trump just got rid of them. That’s why you have congress take care of immigration law.
WILLIAMS: If you don’t let me talk I guess you won’t have a show. But I’m just saying you have the president as the one who’ve said, oh, I can’t do anything about it. It’s up to them. And he’s the one who literally changes course and has to do it. He’s back as we’ve saw last night in Minnesota to try to demonize not only the Democrats but the immigrants again. He said I’m strong. I’m going to enforce these borders. These people will run over the border. What is he talking about? Does anybody say, hey, Mr. President, stop lying?
PERINO: Well, here’s the thing, Kimberly, that regardless of what happens on this particular bill tomorrow it still has to pass the senate.
GUILFOYLE: Right.
PERINO: And this issue is not going away. It fuels a lot of passion and people feel really strongly about it on all sides. What do you think is the strategy to try to actually solve the problem and not deal with the politics of this? Both sides are playing it.
GUILFOYLE: Of course they are, right? That’s an honest statement and a reflection of what’s going on. But, nevertheless, I do believe that the president does want to do something about this. He likes to see things and say there’s a problem here, I’m going to be the guy who’s going to fix it. So, would he like congress to be able to act? Yes. So it’s long lasting change from a legislative perspective versus an executive order like Jesse points out that can be undone? Yes. He’s at a rally. He’s not demonizing anybody. I mean, let’s not sugar coat the issue. You’re not supposed to break the law and come into the country illegally. Nevertheless, we have to deal with this issue and with children coming over in a compassionate way but still enforce the law. This nation, this country has a right to have its laws upheld and have them observed, and there’s policies and procedures in place. We welcome immigrants. All of us have background as immigrants, and family members that have come over here, great. God bless, OK? We embrace people. This is a country that is very humanitarian. This is a president who cares deeply about families and about children. He’s proved that over and over again. Give him the opportunity to fix it.
PERINO: The President of the United States, commander-in-chief, solemn responsibility is protection of the country.
WILLIAMS: Yeah. But he’s not supposed to go around calling people an infestation, animals, criminals, rapists.
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GUTFELD: Peter Fonda, yesterday, did you, Juan. You thought Peter Fonda just misused some words.
WILLIAMS: No, no. You’re the one that likes to say we should — don’t take Trump’s word so seriously. Look at his actions here, Greg. His actions are just horrific. And that’s why Americans are saying.
GUILFOYLE: He just fixed the issue. He just fixed the issue.
GUTFELD: Well, now they’re putting together. They’re being detained together, but yet that’s horrific. You know what’s interesting, the irony here, is that it took Donald Trump for these hypocrites to finally act or pretend to act. If they had another four years of a liberal president, or a Democrat, the scandals of unaccompanied minors would have continued. Just the way it did under Obama. But now they care. Why? Because there’s a Republican. And it wouldn’t matter if it’s Trump. If it was Marco Rubio, if it was Jeb Bush, they’d still be demonizing and it’s not the same. Both sides are not politicizing it. It’s on the same level. It is so out of proportion on the left’s side because they have ignored the suffering of children for so long until now. But they don’t care about Chicago. They care about 2,000 kids. We care about 2,000 kids. We care about all the kids. Pro-lifers care about all the kids, Juan, can you shake your head.
WILLIAMS: No, because it’s so — so absurd. You know what you have here.
GUTFELD: Donate to Planned Parenthood.
WILLIAMS: You have a situation here where the president is the one who put in place the policy. First, it was the dreamers. Remember he undid the dreamers. Then he changed the policy with regard to separating children from parents. And you act like, oh, it’s the Democrats. These are actions taken by President Trump.
GUTFELD: Read the Washington Post piece from 2016.
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GUTFELD: Read the Washington Post from 2016 about the children that were abused that were let in under Obama.
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WATTERS: You know what the policy is that started? It’s catch and release, Juan. That’s what attracts all of this migration. And when you get rid of catch and release, you have a zero tolerance policy.
WILLIAMS: This is like Trump saying everybody is going to rush over the border.
WATTERS: If you build a wall and you don’t do the catch and release, then that’s why have you border security.
GUTFELD: Senator Rob Portman exposed this in 2016.
WILLIAMS: Oh, yeah.
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GUILFOYLE: Juan, if the Democrats take over Congress, are they going to be able to solve this issue?
WILLIAMS: I hope so. Because one of the realities here.
GUILFOYLE: Well, they didn’t do it before when they had control of both. They didn’t do anything after Obama.
WILLIAMS: What are you talking about? It was under President Bush in ’06 that Republicans defeated an attempt at comprehensive immigration reform.
GUILFOYLE: Oh, no.
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WATTERS: Bottom line, you don’t want border security. Bottom line.
GUTFELD: It doesn’t matter.
WATTERS: You want open borders, Juan, just admit it.
WILLIAMS: You know what? I can say horrible things about you.
WATTERS: That’s not horrible, that’s a policy difference.
WILLIAMS: That’s not true.
WATTERS: We believe in border security.
WILLIAMS: . that’s why I say it’s horrible.
WATTERS: . you don’t.
WILLIAMS: Here’s the reality. Most people who come.
WATTERS: That’s the reality.
WILLIAMS: . illegally are not crossing any border by foot. They’re flying.
WATTERS: Juan, if you want border security, you have the TSA at the airport, but you want open border on the south makes no sense.
WILLIAMS: I don’t want any open border. I’m just telling you this is all about political.
GUTFELD: This is great TV. Keep it going. People love this stuff.
PERINO: Wait. All right. President Trump slams Democratic elitism, his fiery remarks, a little but even more than that, next.
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TRUMP: Was that a man or a woman because he needs a haircut more than I do. I couldn’t tell. He needs a haircut.
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GUTFELD: That’s our Donald. Last night’s rally was nothing new, the crowd loved him. The people who already hate him will just hate him more. And the media pats itself on the head for not covering it while secretly watching Fox News. Too bad, they totally missed an opportunity to call him Hitler.
So, for the bias-impaired here’s news: Trump just reduced the risk of nuclear war. He also got remains of 200 U.S. soldiers back from North Korea just a week after the issue was raised. He’s bringing in record-low unemployment, helping women and minorities most. He’s addressed trade imbalances as our GDP climbs higher.
So, if he’s monster, he might be the worst monster ever — meaning, not a monster at all. That’s why optimism is high: 95 percent of manufacturers have a positive company outlook. It’s good news. Even if the elites deny it. And about those elites:
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TRUMP: Do you ever notice they always call the other side, and they do this — the elite. The elite. Why are they elite? I have a much better apartment than they do.
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TRUMP: I’m smarter than they are. I’m richer than they are. I became president and they didn’t.
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TRUMP: And I’m representing the greatest, smartest, most loyal, best people on earth: the deplorables. Remember that?
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GUTFELD: That’s key. Now bragging is never appealing, but he’s not wrong that by wealth he’s an elitist, yet, he’s still embraced by working classes. No wonder the De Niro’s, the Madonna’s, the Depp’s, the Fonda’s all unravel. Trump is richer than them all, but closer to the street than they are. How can that be? The answer is he makes promises and fights to keep them. And besides, for you deplorables at the rally the outrage celebrity class will always deem you to be the uncool kids. Trump defends you against the jerks.
So, it’s not about wealth or apartments. It’s about speaking up for people that the media celebrity complex snickers at. And it’s why when everything seems to be working out those snickers seem truly from Mars.
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GUTFELD: Did you like that, Dana?
PERINO: Yeah, in the milky way.
GUTFELD: Are you like those silly little puns. Is Donald Trump a bit like your rich uncle always telling your — why can’t your buddy get a haircut?
PERINO: I grew up in Wyoming where it’s like tight short haircut. My Aunt Donna.
GUTFELD: Yes.
PERINO: . is the one who does the haircuts in the kitchen every couple weeks there. You know what I was thinking about today who might — I’m trying to go one other person who had this ability. Someone who’s successful, wealthy, a celebrity, but who is still considered blue collar.
GUTFELD: Me.
PERINO: I came up with Clint Eastwood.
GUTFELD: Oh, yeah.
PERINO: And I think it’s partly because of the art that he chose. The way that he chose to — the movies he directed. The how he acted. The things that he did. There’s not many others.
GUTFELD: Yeah, he speaks the language, Jesse. And it’s like — but I want to go back to the haircut thing.
WATTERS: Sure.
GUTFELD: Because I believe the haircut thing is about being presentable for a job. That’s how a salesman — it’s like get a haircut, Jesse.
WATTERS: Clean it up, Watters. Yeah. But he’s also a man’s man. And, you know, you speak about these man buns and you can mock a man bun now in 2018.
GUILFOYLE: Greg does.
WATTERS: We still can do that. And the rest of the people are afraid to talk about other people’s appearance because they may be being accused of being insensitive. Donald Trump has never been afraid of being called insensitive, right. So, he’s like the common man for a few reasons. One, he’s dealt with contractors all his life. Remember, he’s like, I can smell a contractor. But it’s true. You know, as a real estate developer you deal with the pipe fitters, the masons, the electrical engineers, and he’s great at that. And he also eats fast food not for a photo op because he actually likes it.
GUTFELD: Yeah.
GUILFOYLE: Like us.
WATTERS: He speaks in a blunt, brash style that connects with the average American. And, to be honest, he has that aspirational celebrity. For many generations, people and the rest of the country looked up to Donald Trump. They like the women he was around. They liked the planes. They liked the style. They liked the jets. And if you want to become rich in America, you wanted to be like Donald Trump. And let’s not forget before he ran for president, athletes wanted to live in Trump Tower. All the real estate guys they wanted some, you know, tee times at his golf clubs.
GUTFELD: Most cited celebrity in rap music.
WATTERS: Exactly. And all the advertising executive they wanted a piece of the action. This guy was it. And the minute he runs for president he’s Hitler.
GUTFELD: You know Trump deals with masons not free mason. All right, Juan, I know.
GUILFOYLE: Look at Juan
GUTFELD: . those are like the elitist establishment versus the everyday man.
PERINO: My grandfather was a free mason, though.
GUTFELD: That’s explain it, Dana.
PERINO: But on my mom’s side.
GUTFELD: Are you part of the trilateral.
PERINO: Rawlings, Wyoming.
GUTFELD: Juan, I know you loved that rally. You recorded it and played it five times.
WILLIAMS: Well, I’m just amazed. You didn’t think about — the question is the apartment.
GUTFELD: Yes.
WILLIAMS: His apartment is better than their apartment.
GUTFELD: I know.
WILLIAMS: My gosh. Not only that he’s smarter, richer, he has a better apartment.
PERINO: But he also lives in the west wing.
WILLIAMS: Oh, my God. You talk about a petty person who makes everything about him.
GUTFELD: That was funny. He’s being funny.
WILLIAMS: I don’t think he’s being funny. I think that’s him. That’s what the way he feels. I got a better apartment, so how come I’m not elite?
GUILFOYLE: That’s just his personality. You take everything so literally.
GUTFELD: Let me just try to explain it. What he was trying to say that he — he could be in that group but you love me and I love you. That’s what I got out of it.
WILLIAMS: No, no, no. I’ll tell you what it was.
GUTFELD: It wasn’t insulting to anybody.
WILLIAMS: No, I think it was worthy of mockery, I tell you that, because my apartment is bigger than yours, my button is bigger than yours — I mean, this is the way he talks. This is who he is. But I’m just saying, you ask about how he relates to people. You say, well, oh, these other celebrities they don’t have the support of the working man. Let me just tell you something, I’m not sure he has the support of the working man on separating children from parents. I don’t think he has the support of the working man — what he does is he pushes.
GUTFELD: He brought them together now.
WILLIAMS: . hot button issues and fear. And he says, you know what, you can hate Hillary Clinton. He had the crowd last night chanting lock her up, right? He can say things like, oh, go home to your mom to this guy. Why don’t you get a haircut? I don’t know if that’s a man or a woman.
GUTFELD: That’s a terrible impression, Juan.
WILLIAMS: No, no, no. He hates on Clinton. He hates on everybody. And then he says, you know what, maybe those Hispanics, those immigrants, they’re terrible, too. And you say.
GUTFELD: What’s that about Hispanics? I missed that. I think he meant MS-13.
WILLIAMS: His appeal is based on hateful language and he appeals to the worse.
GUTFELD: So we’re all bad people. Kimberly?
GUILFOYLE: I don’t know. I think America is great. I think the president was saying that last night what an incredible country and supporters and trying to do something. He’s actually followed through and had tremendous accomplishments like we reiterated numerous times on this show. And I don’t know, for myself, in terms of as a Puerto Rican woman and looking at other minorities, are quite pleased. The numbers are going up in terms of — no. In terms of their favorability about the president, yes. And you see key numbers going down, unemployment. Why wouldn’t somebody be happy about that? Lower unemployment for women, for minorities, for Hispanics, for blacks, ISIS gone, we’ve got record job numbers.
WATTERS: And Kimberly’s apartment is nicer than yours.
WILLIAMS: I bet it is. I bet it is. How about John — remember last night, he not only was attacking Pelosi and Clinton. He then goes after John McCain.
WATTERS: You did watch the rally, Juan.
WILLIAMS: I can read.
GUTFELD: Will President Trump’s booming economy spell bad news for Nancy Pelosi and company come November? That’s straight ahead.
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(MUSIC: THE O’JAYS, “FOR THE LOVE OF MONEY”)
GUILFOYLE: I like that.
While the left rages about immigration, President Trump is touting the booming economy. Jobs are up, unemployment numbers are at historic lows. And small business and manufacturing confidence is surging. On the heels of this momentum the president is urging voters to back GOP candidates in November or else.
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DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: We need more Republicans. We’ve got to get out there in the midterm. We’ve got to get more Republicans. We’ve got to get more Republicans.
A vote for a Democrat for Congress is really a vote for Nancy Pelosi and her radical agenda.
They want to put on more regulations. They want to take back your tax cuts, which are massive. They want to take them back, and they want to raise the hell out of your taxes, and the whole thing will go boom.
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GUILFOYLE: Can’t call Greg. He’s nervous right now.
OK, Dana.
PERINO: Well, it’s certainly like even three months ago the Democrats looked to be in a much better position for the midterm elections. That has pretty much been erased. New poll today, I can’t remember which poll it was, but it was a legit one showing the congressional ballot now just 6 points, where it was 15 points for Democrats in March. So something is happening there.
But a couple other things I think that the Republicans should be concerned about. One is that I just watched an ad by M.J. Hegar. She’s a Democrat running against a congressman, an incumbent congressman in Texas. It’s one of the best ads I have ever seen. And she’s a — it’s not a progressive bunch of thing.
She’s a veteran. She took on the Defense Department for women in combat. She’s now running against a congressman, that was her congressman that said that they didn’t want to meet with her, because she was not a donor.
So, they’re not, like, running on really progressive issues in some of these competitive districts. So the Democrats have been really smart on that.
The other thing that I think that’s interesting is that a new Pew poll that also was today, Republicans trusted on the economy by plus 9 over Democrats. So that’s really good. Only plus 1 on trade. I think that’s what’s happening.
But what are people talking about today, this past week, and who knows what we’ll talk about next week? Immigration. And I was really surprised by this number, that Democrats have a 14-point advantage over Republicans on immigration. And I was really surprised about that.
GUILFOYLE: Yes, that’s — what do you think about that number, Jesse? Because, you know, that’s double digits, right? But it’s not something that can’t be turned around.
WATTERS: Well, maybe that’s depressed conservatives who are upset that the wall hasn’t been built fast enough. You could see that, obviously.
And on another note, the economy, if you have a good committee in a midterm election, it’s going to help you. And a lot of the rejections that you’ve seen, I think it was 2010 with Barack Obama. That was a huge rejection of Obamacare. Or in 2006, when the Democrats swept in under President Bush, that was a rejection of all those scandals, you know, Foley and all that stuff. And a little bit of the Iraq War.
I don’t see an issue right now in the country where the Republicans have overreached or blown it or done something so awful that the rest of the country has to say, “Smack you in the face, and we need the Democrats to come in and take over.”
With the roaring economy and record-breaking consumer confidence. And safety. I mean, ISIS has been defeated. People feel safe. And the Republicans are evaluated very highly on national security. Safety and prosperity, I think, are really going to help Republicans in November.
GUILFOYLE: Yes, all right. Greg, do you want to talk about this or what you thought the block was going to be about?
GUTFELD: No, but —
GUILFOYLE: I want to be there for you.
GUTFELD: Jesse’s point, for 18 months they’ve been trying to find that one issue, the one issue that — because when you — when you decided that Donald Trump was Satan on the very first day he was president, you run the risk of running Satan fatigue. So that’s why a lot of this stuff isn’t sticking anymore.
And it’s amazing to watch the left, you know, immerse in all this good news. They’re like gold panners in 1849 with a little pan. They’re trying to find that one nugget of bad news. It’s in here somewhere. That shows this country —
WATTERS: Prospectors.
GUTFELD: Yes, the prospectors. “I think I’ve got some bad news here,” and they’re not.
And the worst thing is their confirmation bias is running out of confirmation. So all they have is their bias, which is going to lead to this cognitive dissonance, which is now building up to the point where they’re calling everybody Nazis and going after Trump’s kids. You are witnessing full-grade hysteria.
GUILFOYLE: All right. Juan.
WILLIAMS: Well, I mean, it’s hard to know where to start, because the conversation has gone off the rails. But let me just say that it was the Republicans who thought that the economy was really going to be their key message for the midterms and have found so far in all this special elections and even gubernatorial elections, Senate elections, it hasn’t worked.
Why? Because like last night in Minnesota. Here he is talking about trade, but, guess what? A place like Duluth, they’re going to lose about 1,800 jobs, I should say, because of trade wars with, guess who? Canada, their neighbor to the north.
You look at the stock market, the stock market’s lost all of its gains, I think, on Tuesday.
GUILFOYLE: Not true.
WILLIAMS: For the years. So it went backwards.
You talk about the average tax cut for the person in Minnesota, 80 percent of Minnesotans, $700 tax cut.
GUTFELD: Crumbs.
WILLIAMS: So the tax cut has not had the kind of impact.
GUILFOYLE: OK.
WILLIAMS: And then finally, you have deficits. Deficits that Republicans used to say —
GUTFELD: A Democrat cares about deficits, everyone.
WILLIAMS: Now — Now, it —
GUTFELD: Here’s a nugget.
WILLIAMS: It doesn’t matter.
GUILFOYLE: OK. What can I say? Two hours.
Jimmy Fallon is still apologizing over a year and a half later for his funny 2016 interview with Donald Trump. What he’s saying now, straight ahead.
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WILLIAMS: Welcome back. Remember this “Tonight Show” moment when then- candidate Trump paid a hair-raising visit to Jimmy Fallon?
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DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Go ahead. Give my hair a stroke.
JIMMY FALLON, HOST, NBC’S “THE TONIGHT SHOW”: Yes!
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WILLIAMS: Well, apparently the late-night comedian isn’t laughing about the backlash from that famous interview. The funny man opening up about his personal pain from the fallout.
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FALLON: I did not do it to normalize him or to say I believed in his political beliefs or any of that stuff.
It was definitely a down time, and it’s tough for morale. I made a mistake. I’m sorry if I made anyone mad. And looking back, I would do it differently.
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WILLIAMS: Wow. Well, you know, sometimes in the breaks we hear things. Dana, what do you think?
WATTERS: Keep it clean, Dana.
PERINO: It’s one of the most funny moments in television history. People love politics and entertainment. President Trump was letting himself be vulnerable and have fun and let somebody, like, invade his personal space.
Jimmy Fallon was really hilarious. And his apology reminds me of Jack Dorsey of Twitter having to apologize because he ate at Chick-Fil-A and said he liked it.
GUILFOYLE: Yes.
PERINO: So where is the courage, guys? I mean, you remember Nils Crane? He used to say, “If it wasn’t for the starch in your shirt, there’d be nothing holding you up.”
WILLIAMS: Kimberly, part of the problem may be that Stephen Colbert now beats Fallon regularly. And Fallon identifies —
GUTFELD: In ratings.
WILLIAMS: Yes, that’s what I’m talking about. And Fallon identifies this moment as the one in which people just said, “You know, we don’t like it.” In fact, it looks like people who are strongly anti-Trump are the ones who’ve had the ratings gains.
GUILFOYLE: Yes, I mean, this is pathetic, right? It’s super snowflakey. I don’t know why. I mean, you know what? Why is he, like, getting — apologizing about this? I thought that was good TV, funny. He’s been telling everybody that’s his hair, that it’s real. So now people know.
PERINO: He got the scoop.
GUILFOYLE: I mean, he got the scoop. So, like, why not? It’s just — and the president was good-natured and fun about it. This is — the world is getting ridiculous or more ridiculous.
WILLIAMS: Well, wait a second, wait a second. Let’s get — let’s go to the —
GUILFOYLE: Or more ridiculous.
WILLIAMS: — exactly what Jimmy Fallon said. He people think he normalized Trump.
GUILFOYLE: Yes.
WILLIAMS: But he doesn’t share President Trump’s political beliefs, and he wasn’t trying to normalize him.
WATTERS: Well, I think it’s more important to hate Trump than be funny in Hollywood, and that’s sad. Because Jimmy, I believe, is probably the most talented late-night guy.
GUILFOYLE: Right.
WATTERS: I think he is probably the wittiest and the smartest, and I look forward to doing his show one day.
PERINO: I knew it. I knew it.
GUILFOYLE: Oh, my God.
PERINO: It’s book preservation.
WATTERS: But in all seriousness, I mean, there’s show business and then there’s politics. This is not “Meet the Press.” Trump went on there. He knew he wasn’t going to get grilled. Fallon knew he was going to have fun, and that’s fine. It’s OK to do that.
I could have Hillary on my show, and I could tousel her hair, and I could make jokes.
GUTFELD: No, you can’t.
GUILFOYLE: Please don’t. Going to normalize Hillary?
WATTERS: And people would do that. Or I could grill her about Benghazi, and then she’d give me boring canned answers. Sometimes there’s a time when you don’t listen to the audience. You just do what you feel is right.
WILLIAMS: So Greg, I remember, I think it was Bill Clinton on Arsenio Hall. And people were saying, “Oh, why are you doing — why is this playing the sax there?” Or you think about some of the interviews, Anthony Bourdain having beers in Vietnam with Obama. He’s “Oh, gosh,” you know, or going hunting with the guy the —
GUILFOYLE: Bear Grylls.
WILLIAMS: Yes. So — and people — people — the conservatives went nuts. “Oh, no. This guy is using media.” Remember that?
GUTFELD: Yes, I wasn’t part of that. So anyway, it’s kind of sad in Hollywood. Politics just isn’t personal. It’s also a survival mechanism, and that’s what he’s figuring out.
But what he — the phrase that is being overused these days is “normalized.” People say that a lot: “You can’t normalize ‘X’ or ‘Y’.” Normalizing Trump as though he’s polio —
PERINO: Right.
GUTFELD: — or, you know, he’s murder. And it’s — it was cowardly and sad. I really like Jimmy Fallon. But that was probably the lowest point that his life has been in.
GUILFOYLE: I think so.
GUTFELD: And he’s pretty wild.
GUILFOYLE: He should have gone back — he used to have some conservatives talk to him. He was so funny and talented.
GUTFELD: Oh, my God. How sad. Normal — oh.
GUILFOYLE: But now — look what happens. Now he’s —
GUTFELD: Get him a therapy llama.
GUILFOYLE: Very sad.
WILLIAMS: All right. Is a “latte liberal” just a clever jab, or is there finally evidence to back it up? The answer ahead on “The Five.”
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WATTERS: It turns out the phrase “latte liberal” is based in reality. A new study from the University of Pennsylvania finds liberals do, in fact, drink more lattes than conservatives.
It’s apparently all because of the drink’s Italian heritage. Researchers say liberals are more open to foreign products and globalization, while conservatives embrace products perceived to be made in America.
GUILFOYLE: Like the Big Mac.
WATTERS: Like the Big — Le Big Mac.
Kimberly, also interesting, they say for fast food, liberals prefer Chipotle and Panera. Conservatives prefer Sonic and Hardee’s. What do you make of that?
GUILFOYLE: Wow, that’s kind of funny. Maybe there’s some, you know, science to it, so to speak, and like, they take random surveys or whatever. I know that Greg used to eat Chipotle until he became deadly ill due to his lack of intestinal fortitude.
GUTFELD: I don’t think I was the only one who became deathly ill at Chipotle.
But I agree with this. Conservatives don’t take risks. And at my age mixing milk with coffee is, indeed, a risk.
GUILFOYLE: For everyone around.
GUTFELD: But I should also add coffee should only be taken black. It’s not coffee if you put milk or sugar in it. Then that’s a kid’s drink.
WATTERS: You are such a manly man.
GUTFELD: No, it’s — coffee is —
WATTERS: That is the only manly thing do you.
GUTFELD: It’s beautiful. Black — there’s nothing better than black coffee.
WATTERS: All right. Well, now I feel very effeminate —
GUTFELD: In a tin cup.
WATTERS: — because I drink it with milk and sugar, Dana. Beer —
PERINO: Yes, that’s pretty pathetic.
WATTERS: All right.
GUILFOYLE: You’re getting a little soft these days.
WATTERS: I am getting a little soft. I know. Beers, liberals prefer Heineken and Guinness, imports. Conservatives, Budweiser and Miller.
PERINO: I mean, I’m more of a Coors girl, myself.
WATTERS: The Rocky Mountain.
PERINO: Colorado, yes. And we also have Keystone Light. I don’t know if they still make that, but we sure like that.
WATTERS: That’s some cheap beer, Dana.
And in terms of activities, Juan, liberals do yoga and martial arts, whereas conservatives, archery and woodworking. I do neither of those. But go ahead.
WILLIAMS: No, I think, you know, great. Drink — everybody seems to like coffee, period.
WATTERS: Yes.
WILLIAMS: Both sides. So, what struck me was the commonality, you know, that hey, there’s something everybody likes.
PERINO: We could have a coffee summit.
WILLIAMS: Yes, I think we should have a coffee —
GUTFELD: At Starbucks.
WILLIAMS: And the other point of it was that someone pointed out that, even with lattes, it’s better for the American economy, because it benefits the dairy industry.
And I didn’t realize this. They said coffee beans are grown in several American states. It’s not a foreign product. So if you go to Hawaii, Puerto Rico, California, coffee beans.
PERINO: That’s —
WATTERS: Well, I’m still reeling from being called a weakling by drinking coffee with milk and sugar.
WILLIAMS: That’s OK. It’s OK.
WATTERS: It’s OK. I feel better about it.
GUILFOYLE: You do other stuff.
PERINO: Can somebody Photoshop that, please?
WATTERS: Also, smart phones, liberals prefer the iPhone. Conservatives, Samsung. Now, I just don’t know what the deal is with that.
GUILFOYLE: I’m going to say that’s —
GUTFELD: I’m beginning to call bologna on this whole thing.
GUILFOYLE: Yes, this is not good.
WATTERS: Is this study —
PERINO: I actually think this is true. I mean, I do have an iPhone. But I think that a lot of — it’s almost like conservatives don’t like the herd mentality so much. I’m going to get hate mail on that, right? But Apple became such an icon of liberalness. Right? So then they went with the Samsung, and they think it’s better. And the wars between people who have iPhones or Samsungs, they’re real.
GUTFELD: I don’t — the reason why I call bologna on this, I don’t think politics has anything to do with these choices. It’s just something that they do.
PERINO: Just happens?
GUTFELD: Yes. It just happens. I don’t think about it.
WILLIAMS: The other part of it is age. I think if you had a cohort of liberals, you’re going to find they’re much younger. A cohort of conservatives, they’re much older.
GUTFELD: True.
WILLIAMS: And you’re going to find the conservatives, the older end of that cohort has more disposable income than the younger.
GUTFELD: Yes.
WILLIAMS: So —
PERINO: How did that surprise you?
WATTERS: I always think conservatives have more disposable income, because we’re smarter with money.
“One More Thing” is up next.
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PERINO: It’s time now for “One More Thing.” I’ll go first.
Last week Iran’s World Cup team won their first game since 1998. And this week, Tehran’s Provisional Council made a last-minute decision allowing women to attend the screening of the game in Tehran’s largest stadium. It’s the first time they’ve been allowed to do that since 1979.
Iran lost to Spain 0-1, so not a high scoring game. But women still celebrated. Many hope this will lead to permanently reversing their ban. So glad to see them get to go.
GUTFELD: Did Trump have something to do with that?
PERINO: I’m sure he did. I’m sure he did.
All right. Juan.
WILLIAMS: So big news from New Zealand. The Kiwi prime minister had a baby today. That’s right. Jacinda Ardern had a baby girl. She becomes only the second world leader to give birth while in office. The first, Pakistan’s Benazir Bhutto in 1990. And in an interesting twist of fate, today is also Bhutto’s birthday.
Ardern is not married. Her partner, a TV news presenter, plans to be a stay-at-home dad. One Kiwi commentator said it was a historic moment, because the birth shows that pregnant women can do their jobs. Ardern is taking a six-week maternity leave. Congratulations to all.
PERINO: All right. Jesse.
WATTERS: I would like to wish Steven Watters, my father, a very happy 70th birthday.
GUILFOYLE: Happy birthday.
PERINO: Happy birthday, dad.
WATTERS: There is dear old dad. Look how dapper he was. Now everybody knows where I get it from. That’s him playing lacrosse. All-American lacrosse player. It was very cold there in his shadow growing up.
And there he is with my mom taking a selfie. Probably the first selfie ever, back in the 60’s.
GUTFELD: Funniest thing I’ve ever heard.
WATTERS: And now he has a huge beard. I’ve never seen him without a beard. I have no idea what he looks like. And there he is with Ann Watters, “Mom Texts,” as we know her.
So Dad, happy birthday, I love you very much.
PERINO: Happy birthday.
WATTERS: Congratulations.
WILLIAMS: Happy birthday.
PERINO: How sweet.
GUILFOYLE: Happy birthday.
PERINO: Kimberly.
GUILFOYLE: — to you. Yes.
OK, so this is super cute. I love the little nostalgic things, parents and sons. So this is a father and son cop duo, and there’s a photo we can show you, so adorable. So this is a 20-year-old photo. And what happened is the 1998 photo shows Officer Andy Golden and his son Michael inside the police cruiser.
And you fast forward to the photo taken this past Father’s Day, shows him seated in the same position but at 6’7″. Can you imagine? So the father and son police officers.
GUTFELD: Don’t try that at home.
GUILFOYLE: Said to make the photo redo was a hard squeeze.
While they’re not partners, his son followed in his footsteps into law enforcement, which is incredible, at the Auburn Police Department. And it’s cute, because the original caption said, “When I get bigger, I’m going to be my dad’s partner and catch bad guys and burglars.”
WATTERS: Nice.
GUILFOYLE: Isn’t that cute?
WATTERS: Very cool.
PERINO: And at that height, he’ll probably have an advantage.
GUILFOYLE: I think it’s adorable.
PERINO: Greg, do you feel jealous about that height?
GUILFOYLE: Oh, my God.
GUTFELD: I wish I had a “One More Thing” about a world leader having a baby. Instead, I have gifts from the legendary band, The Misfits, who are big fans of “The Five.”
GUILFOYLE: Oh, wow.
GUTFELD: So everybody gets a Misfits shirt.
WATTERS: Thank you.
GUTFELD: Even Juan. Juan, I know you love The Misfits.
WATTERS: I don’t even know them.
WATTERS: Wait, is this —
GUTFELD: They’re from New Jersey. They’re amazing. Legendary Jerry Only gave them. His mom is a dedicated watcher.
PERINO: I’ve never worn anything like this.
GUTFELD: I can’t wait to see Dana in a Misfits T-shirt.
WATTERS: This will scare people.
GUTFELD: I have a second “One More Thing.”
PERINO: OK.
GUTFELD: Let’s go to it.
GUILFOYLE: Of course do you, diva.
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GRAPHIC: Greg’s Breaking Wind News
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GUTFELD: “Greg’s Breaking Wind News.”
GUILFOYLE: What?
GUTFELD: Not breaking news, breaking wind news. This is the greatest video of all time. A giant gust of wind in Commerce, Colorado — Commerce City, Colorado, sent a porta potty into the sky. Look at that. It’s like a time machine.
PERINO: Was it empty?
GUTFELD: It’s like — it’s like, I don’t know. Was it Dr. No? No, Dr. Who. It just flies in the air.
And anyway, no one was hurt. We always have to say that. No one was hurt.
PERINO: You know, I grew up not far from there, and in the summertime in the afternoons, the winds really does pick up. You have a lot of tornado warnings, things like that.
WILLIAMS: Yes. It’s like Dorothy. It’s like “The Wizard of Oz.”
WATTERS: Exactly.
WILLIAMS: Except you’re in a port-a-potty.
GUTFELD: It was a cheap version of “Wizard of Oz.” A really cheap version.
PERINO: Wonder where that outhouse landed on.
Oh, my gosh. All right. Well, that was a great show, everybody. Thank you so much.
GUTFELD: Everybody, wear their shirts.
PERINO: Yes. I will wear my shirt in private.
Set your DVRs and never miss an episode of “The Five.” “Special Report” is up next.
Hey, John.
JOHN ROBERTS, FOX NEWS: We are definitely not in Kansas anymore. Thanks, Dana.
WILLIAMS: Clearly.
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Republicans regroup after first immigration bill is voted down in the House; reaction and analysis on ‘The Five.’
This is a rush transcript from “The Five,” June 21, 2018. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.
DANA PERINO, CO-HOST: Hello, everyone. I’m Dana Perino along with Kimberly Guilfoyle, Juan Williams, Jesse Watters, and Greg Gutfeld. It’s 5 o’clock in New York City, and this is “The Five.”
Several big developments on immigration, house lawmakers rejecting a conservative bill introduced by house judiciary committee chairman Bob Goodlatte. As for what’s being called the compromise bill drafted by the Republican leadership, the vote on that is being delayed until tomorrow to try to shore up more support. Over at the White House, President Trump is continuing to going after Democrats after ending the controversial practice of separating migrant families.
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PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: My administration is also acting swiftly to address the illegal immigration crisis on the southern border, loopholes in our immigration laws all supported by extremist open border Democrats. People are suffering because of the Democrats. So, we’ve created and they’ve created and they’ve let it happen, a massive child smuggling industry. The worse everything looks, they think the better they’re going to do with respect to the blue wave, which is turning out frankly to be a red wave if you look at the poll. The Democrats are causing tremendous damage and destruction and lives by not doing something about this. And they know that.
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PERINO: The president reiterating that he doesn’t want to separate children from their parents but is still sticking by his zero tolerance policy.
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TRUMP: If we took zero tolerance away, you would be overrun. You’d have millions of people pouring through our border. If you took zero tolerance away, everybody would come right now. They’d be getting their little belongings, unfortunately, and they would be heading up. You would be — you would have a run on this country the likes of which nobody has ever seen.
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PERINO: And First Lady Melania Trump making a surprise visit to a detention center housing migrant children along the border in Texas. But her fashion choice appears to be overshadowing a trip. The first lady wearing a jacket bearing the words, I really don’t care, do you? A spokesperson responding to media speculation saying it’s a jacket. There was no hidden message. Having lived through mission accomplished for many years, I am sympathetic with the White House. Obviously, was not intended to show any sort of message. But back to the important thing at hand. Kimberly, the Republicans said we don’t have enough support for either of these bills. We have to stop and try to figure out a way to do that. There’s going to be a conference. I think they’re meeting right now behind closed doors. This is the third behind closed doors meeting they have had on this week. What do you think will happen and will that vote get enough — that vote get enough support tomorrow?
KIMBERLY GUILFOYLE, CO-HOST: I think, look, obviously, I’m for behind closed doors meeting. Hopefully they’re working on it and they’re building some, you know, coalition there. Getting some consensus to move. Obviously, they can tell that the American people want some resolution of this. The president would like something to come forward. However, I think it might be a little bit of a struggle because there is some pretty, you know, differing opinions and viewpoints and he also has his base he’s thinking about. He has, obviously, this issue which is on a tremendous amount of political attention. You’ve got midterm elections coming up. You know he campaigned on getting things done and making sure that he was going to make positive changes. He’s somebody who is very good at getting deals done. So, you know, I’m optimistic and that he’s going to get involved in this and try very hard to push on it. He’s got to get the votes. Right now they don’t have them, but it doesn’t mean that they won’t get them. And as for the fashion statement, I mean, it’s a jacket. Let’s relax.
PERINO: Jesse, the fact that the conservative bill passed today. The president said he supported both bills. But now that that one has failed, if it’s possible if the president said I am for this bill, I will give you cover on this bill, you should vote for it, that it could pass?
JESSE WATTERS, CO-HOST: The president can only do so much with the house. I mean, the dirty little secret is the open borders, cheap labors, big business lobby has a lot of power over Republicans. And we’re not going to get any help from the Democrats at all. So, there’s just no consensus and there’s nothing that’s ever going to be done on immigration. I don’t even think after the midterms it’s ever going to get done. And the Democrats when they had a super majority under Barack Obama they did nothing on immigration. The Democrats just want to blame Republicans for the issue and score political point. But I don’t think this whole separating families thing is a big winner for the Democrats. I think they’ve overplayed their hands. They’ve exposed themselves as complete open borders advocates. The president completely shut the deal down. He’s keeping families together. Now they’re complaining that they’re abusing children. Melania goes down and now they’re complaining about the jacket. You’re never going to get a win on this issue. I think like a normal issue like gas prices, healthcare, jobs, those are the things that actually affect the lives of everyday Americans. Yes, migrant families will tug at your heart strings and makes you feel sad and you want to find a solution, but it’s not going to be a driving issue for regular voters in the midterm elections.
PERINO: And, Greg, I had Congressman Burgess on the 2 o’clock show today.
GREG GUTFELD, CO-HOST: Good for you.
PERINO: I’m getting to a good point. He’s part of the — he’s a Texas congressman.
GUTFELD: Yeah.
PERINO: . a doctor, a conservative guy, he wanted both bills to pass. He decided to vote for them. And he’s on something called the immigration reform caucus. And I said, in the caucus do you actually have Democrats that are willing to come to the table on this? And he said no. That he has tried talking to them and that he can’t get anywhere. And he does think that they just want to be obstructionist.
Gregg: Yeah, I don’t think it’s about the kids. It’s always going to be about Trump. This is about 2016, and it’s about 2018 and 2020. It’s about elections. We know that what Trump does will never be enough. It will be seen as even less humane than what was before. So, the liberal opinion is this. If you split up families you’re a Nazi, whether the family is pretend or not you’re a Nazi. But if you keep them together you’re worse than a Nazi. So they actually have no solution. Liberals become paralyzed when faced with having to solve a problem. And the media puts some notion before facts so they just contribute to it.
So now you’re having critics of Trump actually arguing against their own wishes. So, now, OK, we’re going to keep the families together, or the pseudo families together, or whatever, you should be happy that they’re now detained. Now that’s awful. I have to give credit to CNN because I always bash CNN. But I said yesterday that a lot of these problems existed under Obama and they were really, really bad problems, but the media never talks about it. Finally, I think it was senator — I can’t remember the name of the senator — Baldwin? But, Brook Baldwin asked a very simple question. Can we throw that?
PERINO: Yes, sure, absolutely.
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UNINDENTIFIED FEMALE: Here’s a question for Democrats. So many people in this country are certainly outraged by the K-do’s, and the thermal blankets, and the facilities housing these kids, you know. They were all there in 2014 under President Obama. And my question to you, Senator Baldwin, is did you speak up against them then?
SEN. TAMMY BALDWIN (D), WISONSIN: You know, on this issue that we get into a moment where we’re making progress and then when it stalls, we turn around. I think we all need to continue to be focused on it and press it through.
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GUTFELD: So she just exposed how political this is.
WATTERS: Was that English? I didn’t understand a word she said.
GUTFELD: Yeah, yeah. They didn’t care before.
PERINO: And, actually — and before, Juan, Chuck Schumer has voted for wall funding before. And a lot of the money that is being talked about right now in the current bill that’s under consideration is $25 billion, so not necessary for all new wall. A lot of it is to shore up and to approve parts of the wall that we already have. But he says now that he can’t support it.
JUAN WILLIAMS, CO-HOST: Right. And remember, there was a deal between Democrats and the president. The president was one who backed out of that deal a long time ago. So, I think, to the contrary, what Greg was saying, I think you have a situation where you have evidence here, Republicans have the majority in the house, Republicans have the majority in the senate, and what you have is fights among Republicans that are continuing to paralyze their ability to pass any legislation. I think that’s what we’re seeing writ large today. Republicans can’t get it together and they have people literally fighting on the house floor. Congressman Mark Meadow of the freedom caucus going face-to-face, pointing, moving away, coming back to continue to fight with speaker.
PERINO: He said he was just being passionate.
WILLIAMS: Yeah, right. So, what you have here is a situation where the president, I think, contrary to what I’m hearing here is, the president likes the idea of saying it’s the Democrats’ fault. Remember, the president said this is the law. I can’t do anything about it. It’s up to the congress. Then he turns tail and signs executive order and, guess what, undoes it.
PERINO: But then.
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WATTERS: Because you know how soft executive orders are because everything Obama did was executive orders, and then Trump just got rid of them. That’s why you have congress take care of immigration law.
WILLIAMS: If you don’t let me talk I guess you won’t have a show. But I’m just saying you have the president as the one who’ve said, oh, I can’t do anything about it. It’s up to them. And he’s the one who literally changes course and has to do it. He’s back as we’ve saw last night in Minnesota to try to demonize not only the Democrats but the immigrants again. He said I’m strong. I’m going to enforce these borders. These people will run over the border. What is he talking about? Does anybody say, hey, Mr. President, stop lying?
PERINO: Well, here’s the thing, Kimberly, that regardless of what happens on this particular bill tomorrow it still has to pass the senate.
GUILFOYLE: Right.
PERINO: And this issue is not going away. It fuels a lot of passion and people feel really strongly about it on all sides. What do you think is the strategy to try to actually solve the problem and not deal with the politics of this? Both sides are playing it.
GUILFOYLE: Of course they are, right? That’s an honest statement and a reflection of what’s going on. But, nevertheless, I do believe that the president does want to do something about this. He likes to see things and say there’s a problem here, I’m going to be the guy who’s going to fix it. So, would he like congress to be able to act? Yes. So it’s long lasting change from a legislative perspective versus an executive order like Jesse points out that can be undone? Yes. He’s at a rally. He’s not demonizing anybody. I mean, let’s not sugar coat the issue. You’re not supposed to break the law and come into the country illegally. Nevertheless, we have to deal with this issue and with children coming over in a compassionate way but still enforce the law. This nation, this country has a right to have its laws upheld and have them observed, and there’s policies and procedures in place. We welcome immigrants. All of us have background as immigrants, and family members that have come over here, great. God bless, OK? We embrace people. This is a country that is very humanitarian. This is a president who cares deeply about families and about children. He’s proved that over and over again. Give him the opportunity to fix it.
PERINO: The President of the United States, commander-in-chief, solemn responsibility is protection of the country.
WILLIAMS: Yeah. But he’s not supposed to go around calling people an infestation, animals, criminals, rapists.
(CROSSTALK)
GUTFELD: Peter Fonda, yesterday, did you, Juan. You thought Peter Fonda just misused some words.
WILLIAMS: No, no. You’re the one that likes to say we should — don’t take Trump’s word so seriously. Look at his actions here, Greg. His actions are just horrific. And that’s why Americans are saying.
GUILFOYLE: He just fixed the issue. He just fixed the issue.
GUTFELD: Well, now they’re putting together. They’re being detained together, but yet that’s horrific. You know what’s interesting, the irony here, is that it took Donald Trump for these hypocrites to finally act or pretend to act. If they had another four years of a liberal president, or a Democrat, the scandals of unaccompanied minors would have continued. Just the way it did under Obama. But now they care. Why? Because there’s a Republican. And it wouldn’t matter if it’s Trump. If it was Marco Rubio, if it was Jeb Bush, they’d still be demonizing and it’s not the same. Both sides are not politicizing it. It’s on the same level. It is so out of proportion on the left’s side because they have ignored the suffering of children for so long until now. But they don’t care about Chicago. They care about 2,000 kids. We care about 2,000 kids. We care about all the kids. Pro-lifers care about all the kids, Juan, can you shake your head.
WILLIAMS: No, because it’s so — so absurd. You know what you have here.
GUTFELD: Donate to Planned Parenthood.
WILLIAMS: You have a situation here where the president is the one who put in place the policy. First, it was the dreamers. Remember he undid the dreamers. Then he changed the policy with regard to separating children from parents. And you act like, oh, it’s the Democrats. These are actions taken by President Trump.
GUTFELD: Read the Washington Post piece from 2016.
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GUTFELD: Read the Washington Post from 2016 about the children that were abused that were let in under Obama.
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WATTERS: You know what the policy is that started? It’s catch and release, Juan. That’s what attracts all of this migration. And when you get rid of catch and release, you have a zero tolerance policy.
WILLIAMS: This is like Trump saying everybody is going to rush over the border.
WATTERS: If you build a wall and you don’t do the catch and release, then that’s why have you border security.
GUTFELD: Senator Rob Portman exposed this in 2016.
WILLIAMS: Oh, yeah.
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GUILFOYLE: Juan, if the Democrats take over Congress, are they going to be able to solve this issue?
WILLIAMS: I hope so. Because one of the realities here.
GUILFOYLE: Well, they didn’t do it before when they had control of both. They didn’t do anything after Obama.
WILLIAMS: What are you talking about? It was under President Bush in ’06 that Republicans defeated an attempt at comprehensive immigration reform.
GUILFOYLE: Oh, no.
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WATTERS: Bottom line, you don’t want border security. Bottom line.
GUTFELD: It doesn’t matter.
WATTERS: You want open borders, Juan, just admit it.
WILLIAMS: You know what? I can say horrible things about you.
WATTERS: That’s not horrible, that’s a policy difference.
WILLIAMS: That’s not true.
WATTERS: We believe in border security.
WILLIAMS: . that’s why I say it’s horrible.
WATTERS: . you don’t.
WILLIAMS: Here’s the reality. Most people who come.
WATTERS: That’s the reality.
WILLIAMS: . illegally are not crossing any border by foot. They’re flying.
WATTERS: Juan, if you want border security, you have the TSA at the airport, but you want open border on the south makes no sense.
WILLIAMS: I don’t want any open border. I’m just telling you this is all about political.
GUTFELD: This is great TV. Keep it going. People love this stuff.
PERINO: Wait. All right. President Trump slams Democratic elitism, his fiery remarks, a little but even more than that, next.
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(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
TRUMP: Was that a man or a woman because he needs a haircut more than I do. I couldn’t tell. He needs a haircut.
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GUTFELD: That’s our Donald. Last night’s rally was nothing new, the crowd loved him. The people who already hate him will just hate him more. And the media pats itself on the head for not covering it while secretly watching Fox News. Too bad, they totally missed an opportunity to call him Hitler.
So, for the bias-impaired here’s news: Trump just reduced the risk of nuclear war. He also got remains of 200 U.S. soldiers back from North Korea just a week after the issue was raised. He’s bringing in record-low unemployment, helping women and minorities most. He’s addressed trade imbalances as our GDP climbs higher.
So, if he’s monster, he might be the worst monster ever — meaning, not a monster at all. That’s why optimism is high: 95 percent of manufacturers have a positive company outlook. It’s good news. Even if the elites deny it. And about those elites:
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TRUMP: Do you ever notice they always call the other side, and they do this — the elite. The elite. Why are they elite? I have a much better apartment than they do.
(LAUGHTER)
(APPLAUSE)
TRUMP: I’m smarter than they are. I’m richer than they are. I became president and they didn’t.
(APPLAUSE)
TRUMP: And I’m representing the greatest, smartest, most loyal, best people on earth: the deplorables. Remember that?
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GUTFELD: That’s key. Now bragging is never appealing, but he’s not wrong that by wealth he’s an elitist, yet, he’s still embraced by working classes. No wonder the De Niro’s, the Madonna’s, the Depp’s, the Fonda’s all unravel. Trump is richer than them all, but closer to the street than they are. How can that be? The answer is he makes promises and fights to keep them. And besides, for you deplorables at the rally the outrage celebrity class will always deem you to be the uncool kids. Trump defends you against the jerks.
So, it’s not about wealth or apartments. It’s about speaking up for people that the media celebrity complex snickers at. And it’s why when everything seems to be working out those snickers seem truly from Mars.
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GUTFELD: Did you like that, Dana?
PERINO: Yeah, in the milky way.
GUTFELD: Are you like those silly little puns. Is Donald Trump a bit like your rich uncle always telling your — why can’t your buddy get a haircut?
PERINO: I grew up in Wyoming where it’s like tight short haircut. My Aunt Donna.
GUTFELD: Yes.
PERINO: . is the one who does the haircuts in the kitchen every couple weeks there. You know what I was thinking about today who might — I’m trying to go one other person who had this ability. Someone who’s successful, wealthy, a celebrity, but who is still considered blue collar.
GUTFELD: Me.
PERINO: I came up with Clint Eastwood.
GUTFELD: Oh, yeah.
PERINO: And I think it’s partly because of the art that he chose. The way that he chose to — the movies he directed. The how he acted. The things that he did. There’s not many others.
GUTFELD: Yeah, he speaks the language, Jesse. And it’s like — but I want to go back to the haircut thing.
WATTERS: Sure.
GUTFELD: Because I believe the haircut thing is about being presentable for a job. That’s how a salesman — it’s like get a haircut, Jesse.
WATTERS: Clean it up, Watters. Yeah. But he’s also a man’s man. And, you know, you speak about these man buns and you can mock a man bun now in 2018.
GUILFOYLE: Greg does.
WATTERS: We still can do that. And the rest of the people are afraid to talk about other people’s appearance because they may be being accused of being insensitive. Donald Trump has never been afraid of being called insensitive, right. So, he’s like the common man for a few reasons. One, he’s dealt with contractors all his life. Remember, he’s like, I can smell a contractor. But it’s true. You know, as a real estate developer you deal with the pipe fitters, the masons, the electrical engineers, and he’s great at that. And he also eats fast food not for a photo op because he actually likes it.
GUTFELD: Yeah.
GUILFOYLE: Like us.
WATTERS: He speaks in a blunt, brash style that connects with the average American. And, to be honest, he has that aspirational celebrity. For many generations, people and the rest of the country looked up to Donald Trump. They like the women he was around. They liked the planes. They liked the style. They liked the jets. And if you want to become rich in America, you wanted to be like Donald Trump. And let’s not forget before he ran for president, athletes wanted to live in Trump Tower. All the real estate guys they wanted some, you know, tee times at his golf clubs.
GUTFELD: Most cited celebrity in rap music.
WATTERS: Exactly. And all the advertising executive they wanted a piece of the action. This guy was it. And the minute he runs for president he’s Hitler.
GUTFELD: You know Trump deals with masons not free mason. All right, Juan, I know.
GUILFOYLE: Look at Juan
GUTFELD: . those are like the elitist establishment versus the everyday man.
PERINO: My grandfather was a free mason, though.
GUTFELD: That’s explain it, Dana.
PERINO: But on my mom’s side.
GUTFELD: Are you part of the trilateral.
PERINO: Rawlings, Wyoming.
GUTFELD: Juan, I know you loved that rally. You recorded it and played it five times.
WILLIAMS: Well, I’m just amazed. You didn’t think about — the question is the apartment.
GUTFELD: Yes.
WILLIAMS: His apartment is better than their apartment.
GUTFELD: I know.
WILLIAMS: My gosh. Not only that he’s smarter, richer, he has a better apartment.
PERINO: But he also lives in the west wing.
WILLIAMS: Oh, my God. You talk about a petty person who makes everything about him.
GUTFELD: That was funny. He’s being funny.
WILLIAMS: I don’t think he’s being funny. I think that’s him. That’s what the way he feels. I got a better apartment, so how come I’m not elite?
GUILFOYLE: That’s just his personality. You take everything so literally.
GUTFELD: Let me just try to explain it. What he was trying to say that he — he could be in that group but you love me and I love you. That’s what I got out of it.
WILLIAMS: No, no, no. I’ll tell you what it was.
GUTFELD: It wasn’t insulting to anybody.
WILLIAMS: No, I think it was worthy of mockery, I tell you that, because my apartment is bigger than yours, my button is bigger than yours — I mean, this is the way he talks. This is who he is. But I’m just saying, you ask about how he relates to people. You say, well, oh, these other celebrities they don’t have the support of the working man. Let me just tell you something, I’m not sure he has the support of the working man on separating children from parents. I don’t think he has the support of the working man — what he does is he pushes.
GUTFELD: He brought them together now.
WILLIAMS: . hot button issues and fear. And he says, you know what, you can hate Hillary Clinton. He had the crowd last night chanting lock her up, right? He can say things like, oh, go home to your mom to this guy. Why don’t you get a haircut? I don’t know if that’s a man or a woman.
GUTFELD: That’s a terrible impression, Juan.
WILLIAMS: No, no, no. He hates on Clinton. He hates on everybody. And then he says, you know what, maybe those Hispanics, those immigrants, they’re terrible, too. And you say.
GUTFELD: What’s that about Hispanics? I missed that. I think he meant MS-13.
WILLIAMS: His appeal is based on hateful language and he appeals to the worse.
GUTFELD: So we’re all bad people. Kimberly?
GUILFOYLE: I don’t know. I think America is great. I think the president was saying that last night what an incredible country and supporters and trying to do something. He’s actually followed through and had tremendous accomplishments like we reiterated numerous times on this show. And I don’t know, for myself, in terms of as a Puerto Rican woman and looking at other minorities, are quite pleased. The numbers are going up in terms of — no. In terms of their favorability about the president, yes. And you see key numbers going down, unemployment. Why wouldn’t somebody be happy about that? Lower unemployment for women, for minorities, for Hispanics, for blacks, ISIS gone, we’ve got record job numbers.
WATTERS: And Kimberly’s apartment is nicer than yours.
WILLIAMS: I bet it is. I bet it is. How about John — remember last night, he not only was attacking Pelosi and Clinton. He then goes after John McCain.
WATTERS: You did watch the rally, Juan.
WILLIAMS: I can read.
GUTFELD: Will President Trump’s booming economy spell bad news for Nancy Pelosi and company come November? That’s straight ahead.
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(MUSIC: THE O’JAYS, “FOR THE LOVE OF MONEY”)
GUILFOYLE: I like that.
While the left rages about immigration, President Trump is touting the booming economy. Jobs are up, unemployment numbers are at historic lows. And small business and manufacturing confidence is surging. On the heels of this momentum the president is urging voters to back GOP candidates in November or else.
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DONALD TRUMP ®, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: We need more Republicans. We’ve got to get out there in the midterm. We’ve got to get more Republicans. We’ve got to get more Republicans.
A vote for a Democrat for Congress is really a vote for Nancy Pelosi and her radical agenda.
They want to put on more regulations. They want to take back your tax cuts, which are massive. They want to take them back, and they want to raise the hell out of your taxes, and the whole thing will go boom.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GUILFOYLE: Can’t call Greg. He’s nervous right now.
OK, Dana.
PERINO: Well, it’s certainly like even three months ago the Democrats looked to be in a much better position for the midterm elections. That has pretty much been erased. New poll today, I can’t remember which poll it was, but it was a legit one showing the congressional ballot now just 6 points, where it was 15 points for Democrats in March. So something is happening there.
But a couple other things I think that the Republicans should be concerned about. One is that I just watched an ad by M.J. Hegar. She’s a Democrat running against a congressman, an incumbent congressman in Texas. It’s one of the best ads I have ever seen. And she’s a — it’s not a progressive bunch of thing.
She’s a veteran. She took on the Defense Department for women in combat. She’s now running against a congressman, that was her congressman that said that they didn’t want to meet with her, because she was not a donor.
So, they’re not, like, running on really progressive issues in some of these competitive districts. So the Democrats have been really smart on that.
The other thing that I think that’s interesting is that a new Pew poll that also was today, Republicans trusted on the economy by plus 9 over Democrats. So that’s really good. Only plus 1 on trade. I think that’s what’s happening.
But what are people talking about today, this past week, and who knows what we’ll talk about next week? Immigration. And I was really surprised by this number, that Democrats have a 14-point advantage over Republicans on immigration. And I was really surprised about that.
GUILFOYLE: Yes, that’s — what do you think about that number, Jesse? Because, you know, that’s double digits, right? But it’s not something that can’t be turned around.
WATTERS: Well, maybe that’s depressed conservatives who are upset that the wall hasn’t been built fast enough. You could see that, obviously.
And on another note, the economy, if you have a good committee in a midterm election, it’s going to help you. And a lot of the rejections that you’ve seen, I think it was 2010 with Barack Obama. That was a huge rejection of Obamacare. Or in 2006, when the Democrats swept in under President Bush, that was a rejection of all those scandals, you know, Foley and all that stuff. And a little bit of the Iraq War.
I don’t see an issue right now in the country where the Republicans have overreached or blown it or done something so awful that the rest of the country has to say, “Smack you in the face, and we need the Democrats to come in and take over.”
With the roaring economy and record-breaking consumer confidence. And safety. I mean, ISIS has been defeated. People feel safe. And the Republicans are evaluated very highly on national security. Safety and prosperity, I think, are really going to help Republicans in November.
GUILFOYLE: Yes, all right. Greg, do you want to talk about this or what you thought the block was going to be about?
GUTFELD: No, but —
GUILFOYLE: I want to be there for you.
GUTFELD: Jesse’s point, for 18 months they’ve been trying to find that one issue, the one issue that — because when you — when you decided that Donald Trump was Satan on the very first day he was president, you run the risk of running Satan fatigue. So that’s why a lot of this stuff isn’t sticking anymore.
And it’s amazing to watch the left, you know, immerse in all this good news. They’re like gold panners in 1849 with a little pan. They’re trying to find that one nugget of bad news. It’s in here somewhere. That shows this country —
WATTERS: Prospectors.
GUTFELD: Yes, the prospectors. “I think I’ve got some bad news here,” and they’re not.
And the worst thing is their confirmation bias is running out of confirmation. So all they have is their bias, which is going to lead to this cognitive dissonance, which is now building up to the point where they’re calling everybody Nazis and going after Trump’s kids. You are witnessing full-grade hysteria.
GUILFOYLE: All right. Juan.
WILLIAMS: Well, I mean, it’s hard to know where to start, because the conversation has gone off the rails. But let me just say that it was the Republicans who thought that the economy was really going to be their key message for the midterms and have found so far in all this special elections and even gubernatorial elections, Senate elections, it hasn’t worked.
Why? Because like last night in Minnesota. Here he is talking about trade, but, guess what? A place like Duluth, they’re going to lose about 1,800 jobs, I should say, because of trade wars with, guess who? Canada, their neighbor to the north.
You look at the stock market, the stock market’s lost all of its gains, I think, on Tuesday.
GUILFOYLE: Not true.
WILLIAMS: For the years. So it went backwards.
You talk about the average tax cut for the person in Minnesota, 80 percent of Minnesotans, $700 tax cut.
GUTFELD: Crumbs.
WILLIAMS: So the tax cut has not had the kind of impact.
GUILFOYLE: OK.
WILLIAMS: And then finally, you have deficits. Deficits that Republicans used to say —
GUTFELD: A Democrat cares about deficits, everyone.
WILLIAMS: Now — Now, it —
GUTFELD: Here’s a nugget.
WILLIAMS: It doesn’t matter.
GUILFOYLE: OK. What can I say? Two hours.
Jimmy Fallon is still apologizing over a year and a half later for his funny 2016 interview with Donald Trump. What he’s saying now, straight ahead.
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WILLIAMS: Welcome back. Remember this “Tonight Show” moment when then- candidate Trump paid a hair-raising visit to Jimmy Fallon?
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DONALD TRUMP ®, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Go ahead. Give my hair a stroke.
JIMMY FALLON, HOST, NBC’S “THE TONIGHT SHOW”: Yes!
(END VIDEO CLIP)
WILLIAMS: Well, apparently the late-night comedian isn’t laughing about the backlash from that famous interview. The funny man opening up about his personal pain from the fallout.
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FALLON: I did not do it to normalize him or to say I believed in his political beliefs or any of that stuff.
It was definitely a down time, and it’s tough for morale. I made a mistake. I’m sorry if I made anyone mad. And looking back, I would do it differently.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
WILLIAMS: Wow. Well, you know, sometimes in the breaks we hear things. Dana, what do you think?
WATTERS: Keep it clean, Dana.
PERINO: It’s one of the most funny moments in television history. People love politics and entertainment. President Trump was letting himself be vulnerable and have fun and let somebody, like, invade his personal space.
Jimmy Fallon was really hilarious. And his apology reminds me of Jack Dorsey of Twitter having to apologize because he ate at Chick-Fil-A and said he liked it.
GUILFOYLE: Yes.
PERINO: So where is the courage, guys? I mean, you remember Nils Crane? He used to say, “If it wasn’t for the starch in your shirt, there’d be nothing holding you up.”
WILLIAMS: Kimberly, part of the problem may be that Stephen Colbert now beats Fallon regularly. And Fallon identifies —
GUTFELD: In ratings.
WILLIAMS: Yes, that’s what I’m talking about. And Fallon identifies this moment as the one in which people just said, “You know, we don’t like it.” In fact, it looks like people who are strongly anti-Trump are the ones who’ve had the ratings gains.
GUILFOYLE: Yes, I mean, this is pathetic, right? It’s super snowflakey. I don’t know why. I mean, you know what? Why is he, like, getting — apologizing about this? I thought that was good TV, funny. He’s been telling everybody that’s his hair, that it’s real. So now people know.
PERINO: He got the scoop.
GUILFOYLE: I mean, he got the scoop. So, like, why not? It’s just — and the president was good-natured and fun about it. This is — the world is getting ridiculous or more ridiculous.
WILLIAMS: Well, wait a second, wait a second. Let’s get — let’s go to the —
GUILFOYLE: Or more ridiculous.
WILLIAMS: — exactly what Jimmy Fallon said. He people think he normalized Trump.
GUILFOYLE: Yes.
WILLIAMS: But he doesn’t share President Trump’s political beliefs, and he wasn’t trying to normalize him.
WATTERS: Well, I think it’s more important to hate Trump than be funny in Hollywood, and that’s sad. Because Jimmy, I believe, is probably the most talented late-night guy.
GUILFOYLE: Right.
WATTERS: I think he is probably the wittiest and the smartest, and I look forward to doing his show one day.
PERINO: I knew it. I knew it.
GUILFOYLE: Oh, my God.
PERINO: It’s book preservation.
WATTERS: But in all seriousness, I mean, there’s show business and then there’s politics. This is not “Meet the Press.” Trump went on there. He knew he wasn’t going to get grilled. Fallon knew he was going to have fun, and that’s fine. It’s OK to do that.
I could have Hillary on my show, and I could tousel her hair, and I could make jokes.
GUTFELD: No, you can’t.
GUILFOYLE: Please don’t. Going to normalize Hillary?
WATTERS: And people would do that. Or I could grill her about Benghazi, and then she’d give me boring canned answers. Sometimes there’s a time when you don’t listen to the audience. You just do what you feel is right.
WILLIAMS: So Greg, I remember, I think it was Bill Clinton on Arsenio Hall. And people were saying, “Oh, why are you doing — why is this playing the sax there?” Or you think about some of the interviews, Anthony Bourdain having beers in Vietnam with Obama. He’s “Oh, gosh,” you know, or going hunting with the guy the —
GUILFOYLE: Bear Grylls.
WILLIAMS: Yes. So — and people — people — the conservatives went nuts. “Oh, no. This guy is using media.” Remember that?
GUTFELD: Yes, I wasn’t part of that. So anyway, it’s kind of sad in Hollywood. Politics just isn’t personal. It’s also a survival mechanism, and that’s what he’s figuring out.
But what he — the phrase that is being overused these days is “normalized.” People say that a lot: “You can’t normalize ‘X’ or ‘Y’.” Normalizing Trump as though he’s polio —
PERINO: Right.
GUTFELD: — or, you know, he’s murder. And it’s — it was cowardly and sad. I really like Jimmy Fallon. But that was probably the lowest point that his life has been in.
GUILFOYLE: I think so.
GUTFELD: And he’s pretty wild.
GUILFOYLE: He should have gone back — he used to have some conservatives talk to him. He was so funny and talented.
GUTFELD: Oh, my God. How sad. Normal — oh.
GUILFOYLE: But now — look what happens. Now he’s —
GUTFELD: Get him a therapy llama.
GUILFOYLE: Very sad.
WILLIAMS: All right. Is a “latte liberal” just a clever jab, or is there finally evidence to back it up? The answer ahead on “The Five.”
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WATTERS: It turns out the phrase “latte liberal” is based in reality. A new study from the University of Pennsylvania finds liberals do, in fact, drink more lattes than conservatives.
It’s apparently all because of the drink’s Italian heritage. Researchers say liberals are more open to foreign products and globalization, while conservatives embrace products perceived to be made in America.
GUILFOYLE: Like the Big Mac.
WATTERS: Like the Big — Le Big Mac.
Kimberly, also interesting, they say for fast food, liberals prefer Chipotle and Panera. Conservatives prefer Sonic and Hardee’s. What do you make of that?
GUILFOYLE: Wow, that’s kind of funny. Maybe there’s some, you know, science to it, so to speak, and like, they take random surveys or whatever. I know that Greg used to eat Chipotle until he became deadly ill due to his lack of intestinal fortitude.
GUTFELD: I don’t think I was the only one who became deathly ill at Chipotle.
But I agree with this. Conservatives don’t take risks. And at my age mixing milk with coffee is, indeed, a risk.
GUILFOYLE: For everyone around.
GUTFELD: But I should also add coffee should only be taken black. It’s not coffee if you put milk or sugar in it. Then that’s a kid’s drink.
WATTERS: You are such a manly man.
GUTFELD: No, it’s — coffee is —
WATTERS: That is the only manly thing do you.
GUTFELD: It’s beautiful. Black — there’s nothing better than black coffee.
WATTERS: All right. Well, now I feel very effeminate —
GUTFELD: In a tin cup.
WATTERS: — because I drink it with milk and sugar, Dana. Beer —
PERINO: Yes, that’s pretty pathetic.
WATTERS: All right.
GUILFOYLE: You’re getting a little soft these days.
WATTERS: I am getting a little soft. I know. Beers, liberals prefer Heineken and Guinness, imports. Conservatives, Budweiser and Miller.
PERINO: I mean, I’m more of a Coors girl, myself.
WATTERS: The Rocky Mountain.
PERINO: Colorado, yes. And we also have Keystone Light. I don’t know if they still make that, but we sure like that.
WATTERS: That’s some cheap beer, Dana.
And in terms of activities, Juan, liberals do yoga and martial arts, whereas conservatives, archery and woodworking. I do neither of those. But go ahead.
WILLIAMS: No, I think, you know, great. Drink — everybody seems to like coffee, period.
WATTERS: Yes.
WILLIAMS: Both sides. So, what struck me was the commonality, you know, that hey, there’s something everybody likes.
PERINO: We could have a coffee summit.
WILLIAMS: Yes, I think we should have a coffee —
GUTFELD: At Starbucks.
WILLIAMS: And the other point of it was that someone pointed out that, even with lattes, it’s better for the American economy, because it benefits the dairy industry.
And I didn’t realize this. They said coffee beans are grown in several American states. It’s not a foreign product. So if you go to Hawaii, Puerto Rico, California, coffee beans.
PERINO: That’s —
WATTERS: Well, I’m still reeling from being called a weakling by drinking coffee with milk and sugar.
WILLIAMS: That’s OK. It’s OK.
WATTERS: It’s OK. I feel better about it.
GUILFOYLE: You do other stuff.
PERINO: Can somebody Photoshop that, please?
WATTERS: Also, smart phones, liberals prefer the iPhone. Conservatives, Samsung. Now, I just don’t know what the deal is with that.
GUILFOYLE: I’m going to say that’s —
GUTFELD: I’m beginning to call bologna on this whole thing.
GUILFOYLE: Yes, this is not good.
WATTERS: Is this study —
PERINO: I actually think this is true. I mean, I do have an iPhone. But I think that a lot of — it’s almost like conservatives don’t like the herd mentality so much. I’m going to get hate mail on that, right? But Apple became such an icon of liberalness. Right? So then they went with the Samsung, and they think it’s better. And the wars between people who have iPhones or Samsungs, they’re real.
GUTFELD: I don’t — the reason why I call bologna on this, I don’t think politics has anything to do with these choices. It’s just something that they do.
PERINO: Just happens?
GUTFELD: Yes. It just happens. I don’t think about it.
WILLIAMS: The other part of it is age. I think if you had a cohort of liberals, you’re going to find they’re much younger. A cohort of conservatives, they’re much older.
GUTFELD: True.
WILLIAMS: And you’re going to find the conservatives, the older end of that cohort has more disposable income than the younger.
GUTFELD: Yes.
WILLIAMS: So —
PERINO: How did that surprise you?
WATTERS: I always think conservatives have more disposable income, because we’re smarter with money.
“One More Thing” is up next.
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PERINO: It’s time now for “One More Thing.” I’ll go first.
Last week Iran’s World Cup team won their first game since 1998. And this week, Tehran’s Provisional Council made a last-minute decision allowing women to attend the screening of the game in Tehran’s largest stadium. It’s the first time they’ve been allowed to do that since 1979.
Iran lost to Spain 0-1, so not a high scoring game. But women still celebrated. Many hope this will lead to permanently reversing their ban. So glad to see them get to go.
GUTFELD: Did Trump have something to do with that?
PERINO: I’m sure he did. I’m sure he did.
All right. Juan.
WILLIAMS: So big news from New Zealand. The Kiwi prime minister had a baby today. That’s right. Jacinda Ardern had a baby girl. She becomes only the second world leader to give birth while in office. The first, Pakistan’s Benazir Bhutto in 1990. And in an interesting twist of fate, today is also Bhutto’s birthday.
Ardern is not married. Her partner, a TV news presenter, plans to be a stay-at-home dad. One Kiwi commentator said it was a historic moment, because the birth shows that pregnant women can do their jobs. Ardern is taking a six-week maternity leave. Congratulations to all.
PERINO: All right. Jesse.
WATTERS: I would like to wish Steven Watters, my father, a very happy 70th birthday.
GUILFOYLE: Happy birthday.
PERINO: Happy birthday, dad.
WATTERS: There is dear old dad. Look how dapper he was. Now everybody knows where I get it from. That’s him playing lacrosse. All-American lacrosse player. It was very cold there in his shadow growing up.
And there he is with my mom taking a selfie. Probably the first selfie ever, back in the 60’s.
GUTFELD: Funniest thing I’ve ever heard.
WATTERS: And now he has a huge beard. I’ve never seen him without a beard. I have no idea what he looks like. And there he is with Ann Watters, “Mom Texts,” as we know her.
So Dad, happy birthday, I love you very much.
PERINO: Happy birthday.
WATTERS: Congratulations.
WILLIAMS: Happy birthday.
PERINO: How sweet.
GUILFOYLE: Happy birthday.
PERINO: Kimberly.
GUILFOYLE: — to you. Yes.
OK, so this is super cute. I love the little nostalgic things, parents and sons. So this is a father and son cop duo, and there’s a photo we can show you, so adorable. So this is a 20-year-old photo. And what happened is the 1998 photo shows Officer Andy Golden and his son Michael inside the police cruiser.
And you fast forward to the photo taken this past Father’s Day, shows him seated in the same position but at 6’7″. Can you imagine? So the father and son police officers.
GUTFELD: Don’t try that at home.
GUILFOYLE: Said to make the photo redo was a hard squeeze.
While they’re not partners, his son followed in his footsteps into law enforcement, which is incredible, at the Auburn Police Department. And it’s cute, because the original caption said, “When I get bigger, I’m going to be my dad’s partner and catch bad guys and burglars.”
WATTERS: Nice.
GUILFOYLE: Isn’t that cute?
WATTERS: Very cool.
PERINO: And at that height, he’ll probably have an advantage.
GUILFOYLE: I think it’s adorable.
PERINO: Greg, do you feel jealous about that height?
GUILFOYLE: Oh, my God.
GUTFELD: I wish I had a “One More Thing” about a world leader having a baby. Instead, I have gifts from the legendary band, The Misfits, who are big fans of “The Five.”
GUILFOYLE: Oh, wow.
GUTFELD: So everybody gets a Misfits shirt.
WATTERS: Thank you.
GUTFELD: Even Juan. Juan, I know you love The Misfits.
WATTERS: I don’t even know them.
WATTERS: Wait, is this —
GUTFELD: They’re from New Jersey. They’re amazing. Legendary Jerry Only gave them. His mom is a dedicated watcher.
PERINO: I’ve never worn anything like this.
GUTFELD: I can’t wait to see Dana in a Misfits T-shirt.
WATTERS: This will scare people.
GUTFELD: I have a second “One More Thing.”
PERINO: OK.
GUTFELD: Let’s go to it.
GUILFOYLE: Of course do you, diva.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
GRAPHIC: Greg’s Breaking Wind News
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GUTFELD: “Greg’s Breaking Wind News.”
GUILFOYLE: What?
GUTFELD: Not breaking news, breaking wind news. This is the greatest video of all time. A giant gust of wind in Commerce, Colorado — Commerce City, Colorado, sent a porta potty into the sky. Look at that. It’s like a time machine.
PERINO: Was it empty?
GUTFELD: It’s like — it’s like, I don’t know. Was it Dr. No? No, Dr. Who. It just flies in the air.
And anyway, no one was hurt. We always have to say that. No one was hurt.
PERINO: You know, I grew up not far from there, and in the summertime in the afternoons, the winds really does pick up. You have a lot of tornado warnings, things like that.
WILLIAMS: Yes. It’s like Dorothy. It’s like “The Wizard of Oz.”
WATTERS: Exactly.
WILLIAMS: Except you’re in a port-a-potty.
GUTFELD: It was a cheap version of “Wizard of Oz.” A really cheap version.
PERINO: Wonder where that outhouse landed on.
Oh, my gosh. All right. Well, that was a great show, everybody. Thank you so much.
GUTFELD: Everybody, wear their shirts.
PERINO: Yes. I will wear my shirt in private.
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JOHN ROBERTS, FOX NEWS: We are definitely not in Kansas anymore. Thanks, Dana.
WILLIAMS: Clearly.
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Republicans regroup after first immigration bill is voted down in the House; reaction and analysis on ‘The Five.’
This is a rush transcript from “The Five,” June 21, 2018. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.
DANA PERINO, CO-HOST: Hello, everyone. I’m Dana Perino along with Kimberly Guilfoyle, Juan Williams, Jesse Watters, and Greg Gutfeld. It’s 5 o’clock in New York City, and this is “The Five.”
Several big developments on immigration, house lawmakers rejecting a conservative bill introduced by house judiciary committee chairman Bob Goodlatte. As for what’s being called the compromise bill drafted by the Republican leadership, the vote on that is being delayed until tomorrow to try to shore up more support. Over at the White House, President Trump is continuing to going after Democrats after ending the controversial practice of separating migrant families.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: My administration is also acting swiftly to address the illegal immigration crisis on the southern border, loopholes in our immigration laws all supported by extremist open border Democrats. People are suffering because of the Democrats. So, we’ve created and they’ve created and they’ve let it happen, a massive child smuggling industry. The worse everything looks, they think the better they’re going to do with respect to the blue wave, which is turning out frankly to be a red wave if you look at the poll. The Democrats are causing tremendous damage and destruction and lives by not doing something about this. And they know that.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
PERINO: The president reiterating that he doesn’t want to separate children from their parents but is still sticking by his zero tolerance policy.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
TRUMP: If we took zero tolerance away, you would be overrun. You’d have millions of people pouring through our border. If you took zero tolerance away, everybody would come right now. They’d be getting their little belongings, unfortunately, and they would be heading up. You would be — you would have a run on this country the likes of which nobody has ever seen.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
PERINO: And First Lady Melania Trump making a surprise visit to a detention center housing migrant children along the border in Texas. But her fashion choice appears to be overshadowing a trip. The first lady wearing a jacket bearing the words, I really don’t care, do you? A spokesperson responding to media speculation saying it’s a jacket. There was no hidden message. Having lived through mission accomplished for many years, I am sympathetic with the White House. Obviously, was not intended to show any sort of message. But back to the important thing at hand. Kimberly, the Republicans said we don’t have enough support for either of these bills. We have to stop and try to figure out a way to do that. There’s going to be a conference. I think they’re meeting right now behind closed doors. This is the third behind closed doors meeting they have had on this week. What do you think will happen and will that vote get enough — that vote get enough support tomorrow?
KIMBERLY GUILFOYLE, CO-HOST: I think, look, obviously, I’m for behind closed doors meeting. Hopefully they’re working on it and they’re building some, you know, coalition there. Getting some consensus to move. Obviously, they can tell that the American people want some resolution of this. The president would like something to come forward. However, I think it might be a little bit of a struggle because there is some pretty, you know, differing opinions and viewpoints and he also has his base he’s thinking about. He has, obviously, this issue which is on a tremendous amount of political attention. You’ve got midterm elections coming up. You know he campaigned on getting things done and making sure that he was going to make positive changes. He’s somebody who is very good at getting deals done. So, you know, I’m optimistic and that he’s going to get involved in this and try very hard to push on it. He’s got to get the votes. Right now they don’t have them, but it doesn’t mean that they won’t get them. And as for the fashion statement, I mean, it’s a jacket. Let’s relax.
PERINO: Jesse, the fact that the conservative bill passed today. The president said he supported both bills. But now that that one has failed, if it’s possible if the president said I am for this bill, I will give you cover on this bill, you should vote for it, that it could pass?
JESSE WATTERS, CO-HOST: The president can only do so much with the house. I mean, the dirty little secret is the open borders, cheap labors, big business lobby has a lot of power over Republicans. And we’re not going to get any help from the Democrats at all. So, there’s just no consensus and there’s nothing that’s ever going to be done on immigration. I don’t even think after the midterms it’s ever going to get done. And the Democrats when they had a super majority under Barack Obama they did nothing on immigration. The Democrats just want to blame Republicans for the issue and score political point. But I don’t think this whole separating families thing is a big winner for the Democrats. I think they’ve overplayed their hands. They’ve exposed themselves as complete open borders advocates. The president completely shut the deal down. He’s keeping families together. Now they’re complaining that they’re abusing children. Melania goes down and now they’re complaining about the jacket. You’re never going to get a win on this issue. I think like a normal issue like gas prices, healthcare, jobs, those are the things that actually affect the lives of everyday Americans. Yes, migrant families will tug at your heart strings and makes you feel sad and you want to find a solution, but it’s not going to be a driving issue for regular voters in the midterm elections.
PERINO: And, Greg, I had Congressman Burgess on the 2 o’clock show today.
GREG GUTFELD, CO-HOST: Good for you.
PERINO: I’m getting to a good point. He’s part of the — he’s a Texas congressman.
GUTFELD: Yeah.
PERINO: . a doctor, a conservative guy, he wanted both bills to pass. He decided to vote for them. And he’s on something called the immigration reform caucus. And I said, in the caucus do you actually have Democrats that are willing to come to the table on this? And he said no. That he has tried talking to them and that he can’t get anywhere. And he does think that they just want to be obstructionist.
Gregg: Yeah, I don’t think it’s about the kids. It’s always going to be about Trump. This is about 2016, and it’s about 2018 and 2020. It’s about elections. We know that what Trump does will never be enough. It will be seen as even less humane than what was before. So, the liberal opinion is this. If you split up families you’re a Nazi, whether the family is pretend or not you’re a Nazi. But if you keep them together you’re worse than a Nazi. So they actually have no solution. Liberals become paralyzed when faced with having to solve a problem. And the media puts some notion before facts so they just contribute to it.
So now you’re having critics of Trump actually arguing against their own wishes. So, now, OK, we’re going to keep the families together, or the pseudo families together, or whatever, you should be happy that they’re now detained. Now that’s awful. I have to give credit to CNN because I always bash CNN. But I said yesterday that a lot of these problems existed under Obama and they were really, really bad problems, but the media never talks about it. Finally, I think it was senator — I can’t remember the name of the senator — Baldwin? But, Brook Baldwin asked a very simple question. Can we throw that?
PERINO: Yes, sure, absolutely.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNINDENTIFIED FEMALE: Here’s a question for Democrats. So many people in this country are certainly outraged by the K-do’s, and the thermal blankets, and the facilities housing these kids, you know. They were all there in 2014 under President Obama. And my question to you, Senator Baldwin, is did you speak up against them then?
SEN. TAMMY BALDWIN (D), WISONSIN: You know, on this issue that we get into a moment where we’re making progress and then when it stalls, we turn around. I think we all need to continue to be focused on it and press it through.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GUTFELD: So she just exposed how political this is.
WATTERS: Was that English? I didn’t understand a word she said.
GUTFELD: Yeah, yeah. They didn’t care before.
PERINO: And, actually — and before, Juan, Chuck Schumer has voted for wall funding before. And a lot of the money that is being talked about right now in the current bill that’s under consideration is $25 billion, so not necessary for all new wall. A lot of it is to shore up and to approve parts of the wall that we already have. But he says now that he can’t support it.
JUAN WILLIAMS, CO-HOST: Right. And remember, there was a deal between Democrats and the president. The president was one who backed out of that deal a long time ago. So, I think, to the contrary, what Greg was saying, I think you have a situation where you have evidence here, Republicans have the majority in the house, Republicans have the majority in the senate, and what you have is fights among Republicans that are continuing to paralyze their ability to pass any legislation. I think that’s what we’re seeing writ large today. Republicans can’t get it together and they have people literally fighting on the house floor. Congressman Mark Meadow of the freedom caucus going face-to-face, pointing, moving away, coming back to continue to fight with speaker.
PERINO: He said he was just being passionate.
WILLIAMS: Yeah, right. So, what you have here is a situation where the president, I think, contrary to what I’m hearing here is, the president likes the idea of saying it’s the Democrats’ fault. Remember, the president said this is the law. I can’t do anything about it. It’s up to the congress. Then he turns tail and signs executive order and, guess what, undoes it.
PERINO: But then.
(CROSSTALK)
WATTERS: Because you know how soft executive orders are because everything Obama did was executive orders, and then Trump just got rid of them. That’s why you have congress take care of immigration law.
WILLIAMS: If you don’t let me talk I guess you won’t have a show. But I’m just saying you have the president as the one who’ve said, oh, I can’t do anything about it. It’s up to them. And he’s the one who literally changes course and has to do it. He’s back as we’ve saw last night in Minnesota to try to demonize not only the Democrats but the immigrants again. He said I’m strong. I’m going to enforce these borders. These people will run over the border. What is he talking about? Does anybody say, hey, Mr. President, stop lying?
PERINO: Well, here’s the thing, Kimberly, that regardless of what happens on this particular bill tomorrow it still has to pass the senate.
GUILFOYLE: Right.
PERINO: And this issue is not going away. It fuels a lot of passion and people feel really strongly about it on all sides. What do you think is the strategy to try to actually solve the problem and not deal with the politics of this? Both sides are playing it.
GUILFOYLE: Of course they are, right? That’s an honest statement and a reflection of what’s going on. But, nevertheless, I do believe that the president does want to do something about this. He likes to see things and say there’s a problem here, I’m going to be the guy who’s going to fix it. So, would he like congress to be able to act? Yes. So it’s long lasting change from a legislative perspective versus an executive order like Jesse points out that can be undone? Yes. He’s at a rally. He’s not demonizing anybody. I mean, let’s not sugar coat the issue. You’re not supposed to break the law and come into the country illegally. Nevertheless, we have to deal with this issue and with children coming over in a compassionate way but still enforce the law. This nation, this country has a right to have its laws upheld and have them observed, and there’s policies and procedures in place. We welcome immigrants. All of us have background as immigrants, and family members that have come over here, great. God bless, OK? We embrace people. This is a country that is very humanitarian. This is a president who cares deeply about families and about children. He’s proved that over and over again. Give him the opportunity to fix it.
PERINO: The President of the United States, commander-in-chief, solemn responsibility is protection of the country.
WILLIAMS: Yeah. But he’s not supposed to go around calling people an infestation, animals, criminals, rapists.
(CROSSTALK)
GUTFELD: Peter Fonda, yesterday, did you, Juan. You thought Peter Fonda just misused some words.
WILLIAMS: No, no. You’re the one that likes to say we should — don’t take Trump’s word so seriously. Look at his actions here, Greg. His actions are just horrific. And that’s why Americans are saying.
GUILFOYLE: He just fixed the issue. He just fixed the issue.
GUTFELD: Well, now they’re putting together. They’re being detained together, but yet that’s horrific. You know what’s interesting, the irony here, is that it took Donald Trump for these hypocrites to finally act or pretend to act. If they had another four years of a liberal president, or a Democrat, the scandals of unaccompanied minors would have continued. Just the way it did under Obama. But now they care. Why? Because there’s a Republican. And it wouldn’t matter if it’s Trump. If it was Marco Rubio, if it was Jeb Bush, they’d still be demonizing and it’s not the same. Both sides are not politicizing it. It’s on the same level. It is so out of proportion on the left’s side because they have ignored the suffering of children for so long until now. But they don’t care about Chicago. They care about 2,000 kids. We care about 2,000 kids. We care about all the kids. Pro-lifers care about all the kids, Juan, can you shake your head.
WILLIAMS: No, because it’s so — so absurd. You know what you have here.
GUTFELD: Donate to Planned Parenthood.
WILLIAMS: You have a situation here where the president is the one who put in place the policy. First, it was the dreamers. Remember he undid the dreamers. Then he changed the policy with regard to separating children from parents. And you act like, oh, it’s the Democrats. These are actions taken by President Trump.
GUTFELD: Read the Washington Post piece from 2016.
(CROSSTALK)
GUTFELD: Read the Washington Post from 2016 about the children that were abused that were let in under Obama.
(CROSSTALK)
WATTERS: You know what the policy is that started? It’s catch and release, Juan. That’s what attracts all of this migration. And when you get rid of catch and release, you have a zero tolerance policy.
WILLIAMS: This is like Trump saying everybody is going to rush over the border.
WATTERS: If you build a wall and you don’t do the catch and release, then that’s why have you border security.
GUTFELD: Senator Rob Portman exposed this in 2016.
WILLIAMS: Oh, yeah.
(CROSSTALK)
GUILFOYLE: Juan, if the Democrats take over Congress, are they going to be able to solve this issue?
WILLIAMS: I hope so. Because one of the realities here.
GUILFOYLE: Well, they didn’t do it before when they had control of both. They didn’t do anything after Obama.
WILLIAMS: What are you talking about? It was under President Bush in ’06 that Republicans defeated an attempt at comprehensive immigration reform.
GUILFOYLE: Oh, no.
(CROSSTALK)
WATTERS: Bottom line, you don’t want border security. Bottom line.
GUTFELD: It doesn’t matter.
WATTERS: You want open borders, Juan, just admit it.
WILLIAMS: You know what? I can say horrible things about you.
WATTERS: That’s not horrible, that’s a policy difference.
WILLIAMS: That’s not true.
WATTERS: We believe in border security.
WILLIAMS: . that’s why I say it’s horrible.
WATTERS: . you don’t.
WILLIAMS: Here’s the reality. Most people who come.
WATTERS: That’s the reality.
WILLIAMS: . illegally are not crossing any border by foot. They’re flying.
WATTERS: Juan, if you want border security, you have the TSA at the airport, but you want open border on the south makes no sense.
WILLIAMS: I don’t want any open border. I’m just telling you this is all about political.
GUTFELD: This is great TV. Keep it going. People love this stuff.
PERINO: Wait. All right. President Trump slams Democratic elitism, his fiery remarks, a little but even more than that, next.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
TRUMP: Was that a man or a woman because he needs a haircut more than I do. I couldn’t tell. He needs a haircut.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GUTFELD: That’s our Donald. Last night’s rally was nothing new, the crowd loved him. The people who already hate him will just hate him more. And the media pats itself on the head for not covering it while secretly watching Fox News. Too bad, they totally missed an opportunity to call him Hitler.
So, for the bias-impaired here’s news: Trump just reduced the risk of nuclear war. He also got remains of 200 U.S. soldiers back from North Korea just a week after the issue was raised. He’s bringing in record-low unemployment, helping women and minorities most. He’s addressed trade imbalances as our GDP climbs higher.
So, if he’s monster, he might be the worst monster ever — meaning, not a monster at all. That’s why optimism is high: 95 percent of manufacturers have a positive company outlook. It’s good news. Even if the elites deny it. And about those elites:
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
TRUMP: Do you ever notice they always call the other side, and they do this — the elite. The elite. Why are they elite? I have a much better apartment than they do.
(LAUGHTER)
(APPLAUSE)
TRUMP: I’m smarter than they are. I’m richer than they are. I became president and they didn’t.
(APPLAUSE)
TRUMP: And I’m representing the greatest, smartest, most loyal, best people on earth: the deplorables. Remember that?
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GUTFELD: That’s key. Now bragging is never appealing, but he’s not wrong that by wealth he’s an elitist, yet, he’s still embraced by working classes. No wonder the De Niro’s, the Madonna’s, the Depp’s, the Fonda’s all unravel. Trump is richer than them all, but closer to the street than they are. How can that be? The answer is he makes promises and fights to keep them. And besides, for you deplorables at the rally the outrage celebrity class will always deem you to be the uncool kids. Trump defends you against the jerks.
So, it’s not about wealth or apartments. It’s about speaking up for people that the media celebrity complex snickers at. And it’s why when everything seems to be working out those snickers seem truly from Mars.
(CROSSTALK)
GUTFELD: Did you like that, Dana?
PERINO: Yeah, in the milky way.
GUTFELD: Are you like those silly little puns. Is Donald Trump a bit like your rich uncle always telling your — why can’t your buddy get a haircut?
PERINO: I grew up in Wyoming where it’s like tight short haircut. My Aunt Donna.
GUTFELD: Yes.
PERINO: . is the one who does the haircuts in the kitchen every couple weeks there. You know what I was thinking about today who might — I’m trying to go one other person who had this ability. Someone who’s successful, wealthy, a celebrity, but who is still considered blue collar.
GUTFELD: Me.
PERINO: I came up with Clint Eastwood.
GUTFELD: Oh, yeah.
PERINO: And I think it’s partly because of the art that he chose. The way that he chose to — the movies he directed. The how he acted. The things that he did. There’s not many others.
GUTFELD: Yeah, he speaks the language, Jesse. And it’s like — but I want to go back to the haircut thing.
WATTERS: Sure.
GUTFELD: Because I believe the haircut thing is about being presentable for a job. That’s how a salesman — it’s like get a haircut, Jesse.
WATTERS: Clean it up, Watters. Yeah. But he’s also a man’s man. And, you know, you speak about these man buns and you can mock a man bun now in 2018.
GUILFOYLE: Greg does.
WATTERS: We still can do that. And the rest of the people are afraid to talk about other people’s appearance because they may be being accused of being insensitive. Donald Trump has never been afraid of being called insensitive, right. So, he’s like the common man for a few reasons. One, he’s dealt with contractors all his life. Remember, he’s like, I can smell a contractor. But it’s true. You know, as a real estate developer you deal with the pipe fitters, the masons, the electrical engineers, and he’s great at that. And he also eats fast food not for a photo op because he actually likes it.
GUTFELD: Yeah.
GUILFOYLE: Like us.
WATTERS: He speaks in a blunt, brash style that connects with the average American. And, to be honest, he has that aspirational celebrity. For many generations, people and the rest of the country looked up to Donald Trump. They like the women he was around. They liked the planes. They liked the style. They liked the jets. And if you want to become rich in America, you wanted to be like Donald Trump. And let’s not forget before he ran for president, athletes wanted to live in Trump Tower. All the real estate guys they wanted some, you know, tee times at his golf clubs.
GUTFELD: Most cited celebrity in rap music.
WATTERS: Exactly. And all the advertising executive they wanted a piece of the action. This guy was it. And the minute he runs for president he’s Hitler.
GUTFELD: You know Trump deals with masons not free mason. All right, Juan, I know.
GUILFOYLE: Look at Juan
GUTFELD: . those are like the elitist establishment versus the everyday man.
PERINO: My grandfather was a free mason, though.
GUTFELD: That’s explain it, Dana.
PERINO: But on my mom’s side.
GUTFELD: Are you part of the trilateral.
PERINO: Rawlings, Wyoming.
GUTFELD: Juan, I know you loved that rally. You recorded it and played it five times.
WILLIAMS: Well, I’m just amazed. You didn’t think about — the question is the apartment.
GUTFELD: Yes.
WILLIAMS: His apartment is better than their apartment.
GUTFELD: I know.
WILLIAMS: My gosh. Not only that he’s smarter, richer, he has a better apartment.
PERINO: But he also lives in the west wing.
WILLIAMS: Oh, my God. You talk about a petty person who makes everything about him.
GUTFELD: That was funny. He’s being funny.
WILLIAMS: I don’t think he’s being funny. I think that’s him. That’s what the way he feels. I got a better apartment, so how come I’m not elite?
GUILFOYLE: That’s just his personality. You take everything so literally.
GUTFELD: Let me just try to explain it. What he was trying to say that he — he could be in that group but you love me and I love you. That’s what I got out of it.
WILLIAMS: No, no, no. I’ll tell you what it was.
GUTFELD: It wasn’t insulting to anybody.
WILLIAMS: No, I think it was worthy of mockery, I tell you that, because my apartment is bigger than yours, my button is bigger than yours — I mean, this is the way he talks. This is who he is. But I’m just saying, you ask about how he relates to people. You say, well, oh, these other celebrities they don’t have the support of the working man. Let me just tell you something, I’m not sure he has the support of the working man on separating children from parents. I don’t think he has the support of the working man — what he does is he pushes.
GUTFELD: He brought them together now.
WILLIAMS: . hot button issues and fear. And he says, you know what, you can hate Hillary Clinton. He had the crowd last night chanting lock her up, right? He can say things like, oh, go home to your mom to this guy. Why don’t you get a haircut? I don’t know if that’s a man or a woman.
GUTFELD: That’s a terrible impression, Juan.
WILLIAMS: No, no, no. He hates on Clinton. He hates on everybody. And then he says, you know what, maybe those Hispanics, those immigrants, they’re terrible, too. And you say.
GUTFELD: What’s that about Hispanics? I missed that. I think he meant MS-13.
WILLIAMS: His appeal is based on hateful language and he appeals to the worse.
GUTFELD: So we’re all bad people. Kimberly?
GUILFOYLE: I don’t know. I think America is great. I think the president was saying that last night what an incredible country and supporters and trying to do something. He’s actually followed through and had tremendous accomplishments like we reiterated numerous times on this show. And I don’t know, for myself, in terms of as a Puerto Rican woman and looking at other minorities, are quite pleased. The numbers are going up in terms of — no. In terms of their favorability about the president, yes. And you see key numbers going down, unemployment. Why wouldn’t somebody be happy about that? Lower unemployment for women, for minorities, for Hispanics, for blacks, ISIS gone, we’ve got record job numbers.
WATTERS: And Kimberly’s apartment is nicer than yours.
WILLIAMS: I bet it is. I bet it is. How about John — remember last night, he not only was attacking Pelosi and Clinton. He then goes after John McCain.
WATTERS: You did watch the rally, Juan.
WILLIAMS: I can read.
GUTFELD: Will President Trump’s booming economy spell bad news for Nancy Pelosi and company come November? That’s straight ahead.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
(MUSIC: THE O’JAYS, “FOR THE LOVE OF MONEY”)
GUILFOYLE: I like that.
While the left rages about immigration, President Trump is touting the booming economy. Jobs are up, unemployment numbers are at historic lows. And small business and manufacturing confidence is surging. On the heels of this momentum the president is urging voters to back GOP candidates in November or else.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: We need more Republicans. We’ve got to get out there in the midterm. We’ve got to get more Republicans. We’ve got to get more Republicans.
A vote for a Democrat for Congress is really a vote for Nancy Pelosi and her radical agenda.
They want to put on more regulations. They want to take back your tax cuts, which are massive. They want to take them back, and they want to raise the hell out of your taxes, and the whole thing will go boom.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GUILFOYLE: Can’t call Greg. He’s nervous right now.
OK, Dana.
PERINO: Well, it’s certainly like even three months ago the Democrats looked to be in a much better position for the midterm elections. That has pretty much been erased. New poll today, I can’t remember which poll it was, but it was a legit one showing the congressional ballot now just 6 points, where it was 15 points for Democrats in March. So something is happening there.
But a couple other things I think that the Republicans should be concerned about. One is that I just watched an ad by M.J. Hegar. She’s a Democrat running against a congressman, an incumbent congressman in Texas. It’s one of the best ads I have ever seen. And she’s a — it’s not a progressive bunch of thing.
She’s a veteran. She took on the Defense Department for women in combat. She’s now running against a congressman, that was her congressman that said that they didn’t want to meet with her, because she was not a donor.
So, they’re not, like, running on really progressive issues in some of these competitive districts. So the Democrats have been really smart on that.
The other thing that I think that’s interesting is that a new Pew poll that also was today, Republicans trusted on the economy by plus 9 over Democrats. So that’s really good. Only plus 1 on trade. I think that’s what’s happening.
But what are people talking about today, this past week, and who knows what we’ll talk about next week? Immigration. And I was really surprised by this number, that Democrats have a 14-point advantage over Republicans on immigration. And I was really surprised about that.
GUILFOYLE: Yes, that’s — what do you think about that number, Jesse? Because, you know, that’s double digits, right? But it’s not something that can’t be turned around.
WATTERS: Well, maybe that’s depressed conservatives who are upset that the wall hasn’t been built fast enough. You could see that, obviously.
And on another note, the economy, if you have a good committee in a midterm election, it’s going to help you. And a lot of the rejections that you’ve seen, I think it was 2010 with Barack Obama. That was a huge rejection of Obamacare. Or in 2006, when the Democrats swept in under President Bush, that was a rejection of all those scandals, you know, Foley and all that stuff. And a little bit of the Iraq War.
I don’t see an issue right now in the country where the Republicans have overreached or blown it or done something so awful that the rest of the country has to say, “Smack you in the face, and we need the Democrats to come in and take over.”
With the roaring economy and record-breaking consumer confidence. And safety. I mean, ISIS has been defeated. People feel safe. And the Republicans are evaluated very highly on national security. Safety and prosperity, I think, are really going to help Republicans in November.
GUILFOYLE: Yes, all right. Greg, do you want to talk about this or what you thought the block was going to be about?
GUTFELD: No, but —
GUILFOYLE: I want to be there for you.
GUTFELD: Jesse’s point, for 18 months they’ve been trying to find that one issue, the one issue that — because when you — when you decided that Donald Trump was Satan on the very first day he was president, you run the risk of running Satan fatigue. So that’s why a lot of this stuff isn’t sticking anymore.
And it’s amazing to watch the left, you know, immerse in all this good news. They’re like gold panners in 1849 with a little pan. They’re trying to find that one nugget of bad news. It’s in here somewhere. That shows this country —
WATTERS: Prospectors.
GUTFELD: Yes, the prospectors. “I think I’ve got some bad news here,” and they’re not.
And the worst thing is their confirmation bias is running out of confirmation. So all they have is their bias, which is going to lead to this cognitive dissonance, which is now building up to the point where they’re calling everybody Nazis and going after Trump’s kids. You are witnessing full-grade hysteria.
GUILFOYLE: All right. Juan.
WILLIAMS: Well, I mean, it’s hard to know where to start, because the conversation has gone off the rails. But let me just say that it was the Republicans who thought that the economy was really going to be their key message for the midterms and have found so far in all this special elections and even gubernatorial elections, Senate elections, it hasn’t worked.
Why? Because like last night in Minnesota. Here he is talking about trade, but, guess what? A place like Duluth, they’re going to lose about 1,800 jobs, I should say, because of trade wars with, guess who? Canada, their neighbor to the north.
You look at the stock market, the stock market’s lost all of its gains, I think, on Tuesday.
GUILFOYLE: Not true.
WILLIAMS: For the years. So it went backwards.
You talk about the average tax cut for the person in Minnesota, 80 percent of Minnesotans, $700 tax cut.
GUTFELD: Crumbs.
WILLIAMS: So the tax cut has not had the kind of impact.
GUILFOYLE: OK.
WILLIAMS: And then finally, you have deficits. Deficits that Republicans used to say —
GUTFELD: A Democrat cares about deficits, everyone.
WILLIAMS: Now — Now, it —
GUTFELD: Here’s a nugget.
WILLIAMS: It doesn’t matter.
GUILFOYLE: OK. What can I say? Two hours.
Jimmy Fallon is still apologizing over a year and a half later for his funny 2016 interview with Donald Trump. What he’s saying now, straight ahead.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
WILLIAMS: Welcome back. Remember this “Tonight Show” moment when then- candidate Trump paid a hair-raising visit to Jimmy Fallon?
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Go ahead. Give my hair a stroke.
JIMMY FALLON, HOST, NBC’S “THE TONIGHT SHOW”: Yes!
(END VIDEO CLIP)
WILLIAMS: Well, apparently the late-night comedian isn’t laughing about the backlash from that famous interview. The funny man opening up about his personal pain from the fallout.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
FALLON: I did not do it to normalize him or to say I believed in his political beliefs or any of that stuff.
It was definitely a down time, and it’s tough for morale. I made a mistake. I’m sorry if I made anyone mad. And looking back, I would do it differently.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
WILLIAMS: Wow. Well, you know, sometimes in the breaks we hear things. Dana, what do you think?
WATTERS: Keep it clean, Dana.
PERINO: It’s one of the most funny moments in television history. People love politics and entertainment. President Trump was letting himself be vulnerable and have fun and let somebody, like, invade his personal space.
Jimmy Fallon was really hilarious. And his apology reminds me of Jack Dorsey of Twitter having to apologize because he ate at Chick-Fil-A and said he liked it.
GUILFOYLE: Yes.
PERINO: So where is the courage, guys? I mean, you remember Nils Crane? He used to say, “If it wasn’t for the starch in your shirt, there’d be nothing holding you up.”
WILLIAMS: Kimberly, part of the problem may be that Stephen Colbert now beats Fallon regularly. And Fallon identifies —
GUTFELD: In ratings.
WILLIAMS: Yes, that’s what I’m talking about. And Fallon identifies this moment as the one in which people just said, “You know, we don’t like it.” In fact, it looks like people who are strongly anti-Trump are the ones who’ve had the ratings gains.
GUILFOYLE: Yes, I mean, this is pathetic, right? It’s super snowflakey. I don’t know why. I mean, you know what? Why is he, like, getting — apologizing about this? I thought that was good TV, funny. He’s been telling everybody that’s his hair, that it’s real. So now people know.
PERINO: He got the scoop.
GUILFOYLE: I mean, he got the scoop. So, like, why not? It’s just — and the president was good-natured and fun about it. This is — the world is getting ridiculous or more ridiculous.
WILLIAMS: Well, wait a second, wait a second. Let’s get — let’s go to the —
GUILFOYLE: Or more ridiculous.
WILLIAMS: — exactly what Jimmy Fallon said. He people think he normalized Trump.
GUILFOYLE: Yes.
WILLIAMS: But he doesn’t share President Trump’s political beliefs, and he wasn’t trying to normalize him.
WATTERS: Well, I think it’s more important to hate Trump than be funny in Hollywood, and that’s sad. Because Jimmy, I believe, is probably the most talented late-night guy.
GUILFOYLE: Right.
WATTERS: I think he is probably the wittiest and the smartest, and I look forward to doing his show one day.
PERINO: I knew it. I knew it.
GUILFOYLE: Oh, my God.
PERINO: It’s book preservation.
WATTERS: But in all seriousness, I mean, there’s show business and then there’s politics. This is not “Meet the Press.” Trump went on there. He knew he wasn’t going to get grilled. Fallon knew he was going to have fun, and that’s fine. It’s OK to do that.
I could have Hillary on my show, and I could tousel her hair, and I could make jokes.
GUTFELD: No, you can’t.
GUILFOYLE: Please don’t. Going to normalize Hillary?
WATTERS: And people would do that. Or I could grill her about Benghazi, and then she’d give me boring canned answers. Sometimes there’s a time when you don’t listen to the audience. You just do what you feel is right.
WILLIAMS: So Greg, I remember, I think it was Bill Clinton on Arsenio Hall. And people were saying, “Oh, why are you doing — why is this playing the sax there?” Or you think about some of the interviews, Anthony Bourdain having beers in Vietnam with Obama. He’s “Oh, gosh,” you know, or going hunting with the guy the —
GUILFOYLE: Bear Grylls.
WILLIAMS: Yes. So — and people — people — the conservatives went nuts. “Oh, no. This guy is using media.” Remember that?
GUTFELD: Yes, I wasn’t part of that. So anyway, it’s kind of sad in Hollywood. Politics just isn’t personal. It’s also a survival mechanism, and that’s what he’s figuring out.
But what he — the phrase that is being overused these days is “normalized.” People say that a lot: “You can’t normalize ‘X’ or ‘Y’.” Normalizing Trump as though he’s polio —
PERINO: Right.
GUTFELD: — or, you know, he’s murder. And it’s — it was cowardly and sad. I really like Jimmy Fallon. But that was probably the lowest point that his life has been in.
GUILFOYLE: I think so.
GUTFELD: And he’s pretty wild.
GUILFOYLE: He should have gone back — he used to have some conservatives talk to him. He was so funny and talented.
GUTFELD: Oh, my God. How sad. Normal — oh.
GUILFOYLE: But now — look what happens. Now he’s —
GUTFELD: Get him a therapy llama.
GUILFOYLE: Very sad.
WILLIAMS: All right. Is a “latte liberal” just a clever jab, or is there finally evidence to back it up? The answer ahead on “The Five.”
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
WATTERS: It turns out the phrase “latte liberal” is based in reality. A new study from the University of Pennsylvania finds liberals do, in fact, drink more lattes than conservatives.
It’s apparently all because of the drink’s Italian heritage. Researchers say liberals are more open to foreign products and globalization, while conservatives embrace products perceived to be made in America.
GUILFOYLE: Like the Big Mac.
WATTERS: Like the Big — Le Big Mac.
Kimberly, also interesting, they say for fast food, liberals prefer Chipotle and Panera. Conservatives prefer Sonic and Hardee’s. What do you make of that?
GUILFOYLE: Wow, that’s kind of funny. Maybe there’s some, you know, science to it, so to speak, and like, they take random surveys or whatever. I know that Greg used to eat Chipotle until he became deadly ill due to his lack of intestinal fortitude.
GUTFELD: I don’t think I was the only one who became deathly ill at Chipotle.
But I agree with this. Conservatives don’t take risks. And at my age mixing milk with coffee is, indeed, a risk.
GUILFOYLE: For everyone around.
GUTFELD: But I should also add coffee should only be taken black. It’s not coffee if you put milk or sugar in it. Then that’s a kid’s drink.
WATTERS: You are such a manly man.
GUTFELD: No, it’s — coffee is —
WATTERS: That is the only manly thing do you.
GUTFELD: It’s beautiful. Black — there’s nothing better than black coffee.
WATTERS: All right. Well, now I feel very effeminate —
GUTFELD: In a tin cup.
WATTERS: — because I drink it with milk and sugar, Dana. Beer —
PERINO: Yes, that’s pretty pathetic.
WATTERS: All right.
GUILFOYLE: You’re getting a little soft these days.
WATTERS: I am getting a little soft. I know. Beers, liberals prefer Heineken and Guinness, imports. Conservatives, Budweiser and Miller.
PERINO: I mean, I’m more of a Coors girl, myself.
WATTERS: The Rocky Mountain.
PERINO: Colorado, yes. And we also have Keystone Light. I don’t know if they still make that, but we sure like that.
WATTERS: That’s some cheap beer, Dana.
And in terms of activities, Juan, liberals do yoga and martial arts, whereas conservatives, archery and woodworking. I do neither of those. But go ahead.
WILLIAMS: No, I think, you know, great. Drink — everybody seems to like coffee, period.
WATTERS: Yes.
WILLIAMS: Both sides. So, what struck me was the commonality, you know, that hey, there’s something everybody likes.
PERINO: We could have a coffee summit.
WILLIAMS: Yes, I think we should have a coffee —
GUTFELD: At Starbucks.
WILLIAMS: And the other point of it was that someone pointed out that, even with lattes, it’s better for the American economy, because it benefits the dairy industry.
And I didn’t realize this. They said coffee beans are grown in several American states. It’s not a foreign product. So if you go to Hawaii, Puerto Rico, California, coffee beans.
PERINO: That’s —
WATTERS: Well, I’m still reeling from being called a weakling by drinking coffee with milk and sugar.
WILLIAMS: That’s OK. It’s OK.
WATTERS: It’s OK. I feel better about it.
GUILFOYLE: You do other stuff.
PERINO: Can somebody Photoshop that, please?
WATTERS: Also, smart phones, liberals prefer the iPhone. Conservatives, Samsung. Now, I just don’t know what the deal is with that.
GUILFOYLE: I’m going to say that’s —
GUTFELD: I’m beginning to call bologna on this whole thing.
GUILFOYLE: Yes, this is not good.
WATTERS: Is this study —
PERINO: I actually think this is true. I mean, I do have an iPhone. But I think that a lot of — it’s almost like conservatives don’t like the herd mentality so much. I’m going to get hate mail on that, right? But Apple became such an icon of liberalness. Right? So then they went with the Samsung, and they think it’s better. And the wars between people who have iPhones or Samsungs, they’re real.
GUTFELD: I don’t — the reason why I call bologna on this, I don’t think politics has anything to do with these choices. It’s just something that they do.
PERINO: Just happens?
GUTFELD: Yes. It just happens. I don’t think about it.
WILLIAMS: The other part of it is age. I think if you had a cohort of liberals, you’re going to find they’re much younger. A cohort of conservatives, they’re much older.
GUTFELD: True.
WILLIAMS: And you’re going to find the conservatives, the older end of that cohort has more disposable income than the younger.
GUTFELD: Yes.
WILLIAMS: So —
PERINO: How did that surprise you?
WATTERS: I always think conservatives have more disposable income, because we’re smarter with money.
“One More Thing” is up next.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
PERINO: It’s time now for “One More Thing.” I’ll go first.
Last week Iran’s World Cup team won their first game since 1998. And this week, Tehran’s Provisional Council made a last-minute decision allowing women to attend the screening of the game in Tehran’s largest stadium. It’s the first time they’ve been allowed to do that since 1979.
Iran lost to Spain 0-1, so not a high scoring game. But women still celebrated. Many hope this will lead to permanently reversing their ban. So glad to see them get to go.
GUTFELD: Did Trump have something to do with that?
PERINO: I’m sure he did. I’m sure he did.
All right. Juan.
WILLIAMS: So big news from New Zealand. The Kiwi prime minister had a baby today. That’s right. Jacinda Ardern had a baby girl. She becomes only the second world leader to give birth while in office. The first, Pakistan’s Benazir Bhutto in 1990. And in an interesting twist of fate, today is also Bhutto’s birthday.
Ardern is not married. Her partner, a TV news presenter, plans to be a stay-at-home dad. One Kiwi commentator said it was a historic moment, because the birth shows that pregnant women can do their jobs. Ardern is taking a six-week maternity leave. Congratulations to all.
PERINO: All right. Jesse.
WATTERS: I would like to wish Steven Watters, my father, a very happy 70th birthday.
GUILFOYLE: Happy birthday.
PERINO: Happy birthday, dad.
WATTERS: There is dear old dad. Look how dapper he was. Now everybody knows where I get it from. That’s him playing lacrosse. All-American lacrosse player. It was very cold there in his shadow growing up.
And there he is with my mom taking a selfie. Probably the first selfie ever, back in the 60’s.
GUTFELD: Funniest thing I’ve ever heard.
WATTERS: And now he has a huge beard. I’ve never seen him without a beard. I have no idea what he looks like. And there he is with Ann Watters, “Mom Texts,” as we know her.
So Dad, happy birthday, I love you very much.
PERINO: Happy birthday.
WATTERS: Congratulations.
WILLIAMS: Happy birthday.
PERINO: How sweet.
GUILFOYLE: Happy birthday.
PERINO: Kimberly.
GUILFOYLE: — to you. Yes.
OK, so this is super cute. I love the little nostalgic things, parents and sons. So this is a father and son cop duo, and there’s a photo we can show you, so adorable. So this is a 20-year-old photo. And what happened is the 1998 photo shows Officer Andy Golden and his son Michael inside the police cruiser.
And you fast forward to the photo taken this past Father’s Day, shows him seated in the same position but at 6’7″. Can you imagine? So the father and son police officers.
GUTFELD: Don’t try that at home.
GUILFOYLE: Said to make the photo redo was a hard squeeze.
While they’re not partners, his son followed in his footsteps into law enforcement, which is incredible, at the Auburn Police Department. And it’s cute, because the original caption said, “When I get bigger, I’m going to be my dad’s partner and catch bad guys and burglars.”
WATTERS: Nice.
GUILFOYLE: Isn’t that cute?
WATTERS: Very cool.
PERINO: And at that height, he’ll probably have an advantage.
GUILFOYLE: I think it’s adorable.
PERINO: Greg, do you feel jealous about that height?
GUILFOYLE: Oh, my God.
GUTFELD: I wish I had a “One More Thing” about a world leader having a baby. Instead, I have gifts from the legendary band, The Misfits, who are big fans of “The Five.”
GUILFOYLE: Oh, wow.
GUTFELD: So everybody gets a Misfits shirt.
WATTERS: Thank you.
GUTFELD: Even Juan. Juan, I know you love The Misfits.
WATTERS: I don’t even know them.
WATTERS: Wait, is this —
GUTFELD: They’re from New Jersey. They’re amazing. Legendary Jerry Only gave them. His mom is a dedicated watcher.
PERINO: I’ve never worn anything like this.
GUTFELD: I can’t wait to see Dana in a Misfits T-shirt.
WATTERS: This will scare people.
GUTFELD: I have a second “One More Thing.”
PERINO: OK.
GUTFELD: Let’s go to it.
GUILFOYLE: Of course do you, diva.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
GRAPHIC: Greg’s Breaking Wind News
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GUTFELD: “Greg’s Breaking Wind News.”
GUILFOYLE: What?
GUTFELD: Not breaking news, breaking wind news. This is the greatest video of all time. A giant gust of wind in Commerce, Colorado — Commerce City, Colorado, sent a porta potty into the sky. Look at that. It’s like a time machine.
PERINO: Was it empty?
GUTFELD: It’s like — it’s like, I don’t know. Was it Dr. No? No, Dr. Who. It just flies in the air.
And anyway, no one was hurt. We always have to say that. No one was hurt.
PERINO: You know, I grew up not far from there, and in the summertime in the afternoons, the winds really does pick up. You have a lot of tornado warnings, things like that.
WILLIAMS: Yes. It’s like Dorothy. It’s like “The Wizard of Oz.”
WATTERS: Exactly.
WILLIAMS: Except you’re in a port-a-potty.
GUTFELD: It was a cheap version of “Wizard of Oz.” A really cheap version.
PERINO: Wonder where that outhouse landed on.
Oh, my gosh. All right. Well, that was a great show, everybody. Thank you so much.
GUTFELD: Everybody, wear their shirts.
PERINO: Yes. I will wear my shirt in private.
Set your DVRs and never miss an episode of “The Five.” “Special Report” is up next.
Hey, John.
JOHN ROBERTS, FOX NEWS: We are definitely not in Kansas anymore. Thanks, Dana.
WILLIAMS: Clearly.
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Still Can’t Get It Done – Observations from Celtics 121, Sixers 114 (OT)
Merry Christmas.
Let’s talk about the final play of regulation.
If you were like me, you were probably thinking that the ball would end up in the hands of Jimmy Butler or Joel Embiid, but JJ Redick took and missed the shot instead. If he hits from 18 feet, we’re talking about a wonderful road win. Instead he missed, the Sixers went on to lose in overtime, and the reactions were borderline apoplectic, at least on social media.
I don’t have too much of a problem with that play call. Sure, you can go isolation with Butler, who has hit a couple of tough three pointers at the buzzer this season. You can run the two-man game with Embiid and Redick.
Brett Brown decided against using a timeout and instead wanted Redick on the baseline, running that “inverted pick and roll” with Ben Simmons.
Watch it once while focusing on Redick and Simmons, then watch it again and check out Embiid’s body language:
I put “inverted pick and roll” in quotations because that’s only maybe 50% of what the play is. Sometimes it looks like a brush cut and sometimes it looks like a dribble hand-off. It’s a little bit of all three of those things at once.
Whatever the case, it’s a set they’ve used before with success. All you’re really doing it spreading out the floor and putting the onus on two defenders to navigate the brush, or else Simmons is going to drive the lane. JJ ended up with the ball and got a mid-range look that really is a higher percentage shot than those iso three-pointers Butler made earlier in the year.
The only problem I have with using Ben in that situation is that he’s obviously not a threat to shoot, so if you cut off the lane, you know he’s going to dump it off to Redick instead. And in this situation, he really didn’t get any contact on Gordon Hayward, nor did JJ do a good enough job of running Hayward into Marcus Morris. It was rushed and poorly executed:
Hayward can’t just round Simmons there, you need to get some body on him or drive him into his own man.
In hindsight, the skill sets of Butler and Embiid allow for more improvisation or flexibility when you’re in a crunch time scenario like that. Butler can drive OR shoot. Embiid can get to the foul line. You only needed one-point there, and Redick was not having an amazing shooting night, yet that’s where they went.
The other thing is this:
They didn’t need to take a timeout. Taking a timeout allows Brad Stevens to sub in Marcus Smart and Terry Rozier and take Hayward and Kyrie Irving off the floor. It also allows the crowd to sort of whip themselves into a frenzy. Letting your team go down the floor, seeing the matchup, and calling the play you want is fine in that instance. I didn’t think that was a huge deal at the end of the day.
This all leads us to Brett Brown, who unsurprisingly took a lot of flak last night, not just for that final play but because of the overtime collapse.
Let’s start by taking a step back and defining Brett Brown.
Brett likes motion, movement, rhythm, tempo, and sharing of the basketball. His base offense takes bits of things he learned under Gregg Popovich in San Antonio and also incorporates some Mike D’Antoni concepts as well. It’s space and pace, right? They spread the floor, sling the ball around, and get out in transition.
All of that is fine for 45 minutes, but it runs antithetical to late game NBA basketball, which is about slowing things down and executing half-court offense. Sometimes you just have to put the ball in your best player’s hands and let him do his thing.
I know I’ve used this analogy before, but it’s kind of like a spread offense football team doing well for three quarters. They throw bubble screens and hit you with read options and really kill you in space. Then, all of a sudden, the situation changes, the defense tightens up, and you need to line up in I-formation and just give the ball to your 240 pound fullback and let him bulldoze somebody for a difficult first down.
The Sixers aren’t great with that, that concept of changing pace and slowing it down and closing out a game. I don’t know if the base offense and some of their more common sets interface well with late-game basketball. They certainly aren’t running the floor and getting transition three-pointers with 45 seconds left on the clock, and a lot of times that renders Ben Simmons as more or less useless in the half court.
I don’t think all of this makes Brett Brown a “bad coach” per se, but philosophically the late-game approach has to shift. He needs to micro-manage more than he does. It’s nice to trust your team in a hands-off way, but a younger squad can’t just feel their way through these games, they need guidance from the sidelines.
This quote from Embiid last night I think sums it up a bit:
Joel Embiid had this to say about what he thought went wrong against the Celtics. pic.twitter.com/LYKvpptdl6
— David Murphy (@ByDavidMurphy) December 26, 2018
No player should ever be saying that they don’t feel like they’re in the right situation. I know Joel is putting the onus on himself to do more, but this sounds like he’s still not fully on board with whatever the Sixers are doing right now. He also needs to not turn the ball over six times, but it’s hard to criticize a guy who put up 34 points and 16 rebounds on 59% shooting while going 12 for 12 from the foul line.
One more little Embiid nugget from David Murphy’s Inquirer story:
Any ambiguity that may have seemed present in those sentiments was quickly dispelled when Embiid was asked why he thought the ball did not find him down the stretch.
“Don’t know,” the big man responded. “Got to ask coach.”
Hmm.. I dunno. Joel sometimes has these emotional knee-jerk types of reactions. He just did this a few weeks ago and it was squashed. We’ll see if anything comes from this round of griping.
For what it’s worth, I do think the “perimeter” stuff is a bit overblown, because Joel more often than not finds himself in the post after the Sixers go through their motions in the base offense. He gets post looks off elbow sets and they find various ways to get him in the block. A good sidebar story would be to look through the film and analyze every double team he’s received over the past three or four games.
Anyway, in the overtime period they hit one of eight field goal attempts, which obviously is not going to get the job done.
They were:
Redick open 3 (miss)
Butler tough turnaround mid range jumper (make)
Simmons tough layup from behind backboard (miss)
Wilson Chandler 23-footer after offensive rebound (miss)
Butler relatively open three-pointer (miss)
Redick contested three-pointer with shot clock expiring (miss)
Simmons transition layup against Al Horford (miss)
Butler three pointer with a hand in his face (miss)
The Sixers didn’t even hit the rim on those last two possessions, with 45 and 30 seconds on the clock respectively while down by 4 and 6 points. They really just did not execute well in overtime and they missed some open shots, rushed their sets, and looked really uncomfortable in the half court.
This one stood out to me:
Butler and Embiid pick and roll? Great. Love it.
They’re just a little sloppy going through it. Butler picks up his dribble early. Embiid has Chandler wide open in the corner, but picks out Simmons who is also open under the basket. Ben ends up catching the ball behind the backboard and has a tough finish there.
On the next trip down the floor, they did this:
That’s not a bad look at all.
Yeah, Chandler might have been able to get Embiid down low there, but you can live with an open Butler three.
They just didn’t get it done when it mattered last night. If Kyrie misses at the end of regulation or JJ hits his shot, again, we’re sitting here talking about a great win. The Sixers really had some promising patches of play last night and I thought they played some ferocious defense down the stretch. They went on some nice runs to erase Boston leads, and they even built leads late in the game. They just couldn’t finish the job by executing in the half court.
Other notes:
The Simmons jumper wasn’t a big deal. He shot it because he had to. He’s not taking that shot during a normal possession.
You see the clear difference in depth in these games. The Sixers got 13 points from their bench while Boston got 26.
Mike Muscala couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn yesterday. His 1-8 three point total really killed them.
3-7 for Ben from the foul line doesn’t get the job done.
Chandler had a nice game. 15 points on 5-11 shooting while going 3-6 from three? You’ll take that any day of the week.
The defensive rebounding in the third and fourth quarter was very good.
Boston didn’t shoot that well. Credit the Sixers for some of that, but you’re not gonna get a ton of 42% shooting nights from them at the Garden.
The national broadcasts are underwhelming.
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