#TheNerdyUnhealthyBrit talks Klaroline

[thenerdyunhealthybrit]

I will never support that trash show but...

Sponsored By Twix >>>>>>> Enemies of the State

[thenerdyunhealthybrit]

Where’s the correlation? If she didn’t want to do so many episodes she would have asked to do less in S8 as opposed to appearing in every single episode. Let’s not forget that DE got their endgame in one episode after years apart.

And Troll/Anon/Whoever you are, would you be asking this if Candice was a man? Daniel has children no one asks or judges him. Zach has had a kid throughout the whole duration of TVD - no one questions why he did so many episodes of TVD.

So I like your casual misogyny there Nonnie.

Aren't you worried about Caroline only being in 4 episodes? That's not really enough to develop their relationship. We're barely get much. I still can't believe it's only 4. It must have been Candice who didn't want to do more since she has a kid now.

There’s not a single thing in this that l neither think is accurate, nor that I agree with.

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lovevanessaamarie replied to your post “thenerdyunhealthybrit replied to your post “lovevanessaamarie...”

You instead romanticize how Stelena was "healthy" and shout how "toxic" Delena was....Unlike you I can admit Delena had it's faults but their faults don't differ much from the wrongs that are Klaroline, Stelena, Steroline etc...In fact the latter has done much worse...Delena is really the only couple from the series to discuss what was wrong and tried working through them...Steroline/Stelena would brush their issues under the rug to never be discussed again.

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Klaus who killed Elena, Elena's aunt, Tyler's mom and terrorized the MFG gang....Did Elena judge Caroline for sleeping with him? Serious question...Seems like a lot of you only hate Elena because she fell in love with Damon....And left Stefan aka someone who made her feel "not good enough"...It's canon on how Stefan manipulated/stalked and tried killing Elena yet I don't see any of you complaining about what HE did.

All this shit you’re spewing here? It would probably work better with someone who actually likes Stefan or thought Stelena was healthy. I mean, it’s healthy compared to Delena, but there’s not a healthy ship in either show.

Again, you really need to figure out who you’re talking to before you go accusing them of defending and romanticizing something they don’t even like.

Btw: Saying “we’re toxic” and then not changing, doesn’t actually constitute “working through” things that are wrong.

[thenerdyunhealthybrit]

I’m just...This week has been sucky. So first Darısı Başımıza gets cancelled and the crew found out through social media while they were filming Episode 5, Wednesday’s Episode. And then the news about Klaroline.

And I just don’t see how they can write an endgame for them. Öykü and Ozan deserve better. This show is literally about their lead romance and the misunderstanding that’s preventing them (she’s engaged to his stepbrother as well) and with how Episode 4 ends, it’s hard to see how they can wrap everything up in 2 hours that stays true to the story they are telling considering there are lots of secrets and misunderstandings that need to be resolved.

Plus I really fell for this couple, as well as Rüya and Merter. I was close to adding them to my OTP list - which is hard now because I don’t think they have been given sufficient length to be there.

And now onto Klaroline

We waited so long and technically just getting Candice on the show is a win for us. But this isn’t fair. Why use Caroline for the bait in 4 episodes? Just have her in one episode? And Klelijah killing themselves, makes no sense. No development in The Originals. This is the ending that The Salvatores should have gotten in The Vampire Diaries - actually Paul and Ian wanted this ending.

It just makes no sense because no one wants Legacies - or if they do they want Klaus, Caroline, precious TVD/TO characters. The built in Legacy characters have no fan base. Whose gonna watch?

Ozan and Elif deserve better. I hope they get a new project soon because I want to continue watching them and of course Klaroline deserve better.

[thenerdyunhealthybrit]

I was 11 when The Vampire Diaries started, now I’m 20 and The Originals is ending.

This universe has been part of my throughout my entire 5 years of Secondary School, the 2 years of Sixth Form College and my first 2 years of University. I’ve grown up a lot. I’ve gone through a lot with TVD/TO. From being Team Stefan and Stelena to loving Klaus, The Original family and falling in love with Klaroline.

Klaroline means the world to me because it helped me out during a tough period in my life where my ‘friends’ were alienating me and I felt alone at home, like I had nowhere to go. Hating free time over lessons. Klaroline were my escapism because I fell in love with this ship, Jodice’s insane, electric chemistry.

I weathered the shitstorm that is the TVD/TO fandom because let’s face it, it can be as toxic as fuck. I weathered ship wars, bad storylines, offensive storylines, writers being assholes.

As for real life, Klaroline helped me to stop going back to self-harming, Klaus and The Original family helped me stop going back to self-harming. I may of had my issues with TVD and TO in the latter end of the series (and majority of TO) but going back to the characters good phases, where they were great, fun to watch, but it did truly help me. The talented FanFic writers from the Klaroline fandom also helped me with the dark times in my life where I needed to escape and not think about real life (It does not do me favours if I do).

Anyway, the point is, this universe has been part of my tween/teen/young adult years and it has been a tough war. It’s time for me to move on, I’ve grown up and therefore I have no intention of watching Legacies when it airs. For starters, Alaric isn’t a draw for me, nor is Hope. I’ve notice many only want it if certain TVD/TO characters appear or certain kids of a recently turned Human couple...

But I acknowledge that this is likely aimed for the next generation, those tweens and teens who have recently discovered TVD and TO through Netflix and reruns. I am no longer their audience and I don’t want to be the creepy great Aunt sitting in the background.

Plus, I don’t think Julie has a co-showrunner to rein her in like she had with Kevin in the early TVD seasons and the lovely Jeff Lieber in the final season of TO, so I don’t have high hopes anyway and I wouldn’t put it past her to make Hope and Alaric a couple after she did Calaric and got Caroline non-consensually pregnant.

Anyway, this is not meant to start ship wars. But if anyone is not planning to watch Legacies, feel free to reblog this with your own story with what TVD/TO has done for you and why you are quitting or make it a separate post. Just want to hear your thoughts.

[thenerdyunhealthybrit]

I kind of what to change my blog from “It’s me, so what?” to “Sponsored by Twix” just because of the Klaroline ad break lol.

[thenerdyunhealthybrit]

Can’t believe that @gemleilou created a Klaroline discord and she doesn’t even ship it...

[thenerdyunhealthybrit]

I saw a Delena shipper on Twitter say that Klaroline won’t happen because Caroline’s husband just died and Cami just died...

Well...Spoiler Alert: Cami has been dead for 13 years and Stefan for 8-9 years. Perfectly valid, respectable time for Caroline and Klaus to move on from their respective few days/few months relationships.

[thenerdyunhealthybrit]

I didn’t know you like wrestling 😍 something else other than Klaroline we have in common I love meeting people in the same fandoms that like more than one thing I like

Haha, yeah. I’m a Wrestling fan. Mainly WWE because that’s the only wrestling that airs in my country. I’ve been to odd indie wrestling events in my country as well as occasionally follows news regarding ROH and NJPW. I have a friend that also keeps me up with Lucha Underground because in the US and Canada it’s on Netflix. Not in my country though.

And yeah, it’s great when you meet people in the same fandom that also have same interests to you, or they are in another one. 

Like fellow Klaroliners, gemleilou. We knew each other from the Klaroline fandom, but lately we have bonded and talked about the American Soap, General Hospital. Then there is someone who I’ve primarily known from the small General Hospital fandom, who I’ve sometimes notice pop up in the Klaroline fandom, which surprised me because I thought they ship an Anti ship to Klaroline.

But I do think it’s great, especially since apart from the Primetime US TV fandoms, the smaller ones like the WWE fandom or the GH fandom are so much less toxic than Twitter or Facebook.

[thenerdyunhealthybrit]

Antis are dum-dums.

The Antis are so dumb if they think that The Christian Post is a reliable source for all The Vampire Diaries and The Originals news. They were the ones that said that Nina would be in The Originals Season 5 based on an article from 2014. 

This argument that Klaroline will be platonic because she’s wearing her wedding ring around her neck is stupid considering Hayley did that and she fucked Elijah. 

So excuse me, why my OTP is the true married couple (they are acting like it in this gif right here, more than your faves ever could). and let me continue having a nice, long bath in your salty tears.

[thenerdyunhealthybrit]

I just can’t anymore, I was on a forum discussing the worst relationship and I said that I think Daroline is the worst relationship when Daroline exists and someone answered me: The key word is “think” that’s your opinion not everyone else’s. I just had to reply, because are you seriously telling me that Daroline in which Damon raped, physically abused, sexually abused, emotionally abuse and compelled (which automatically makes it psychological abuse in my books) not the worst ship or not worst than Klaroline?  I’m not disregarding people’s opinion, but I’m just wondering if they remember or even considered Daroline and his treatment of Caroline in S1. I get it that not everyone ships Klaroline, not everyone ships the same ship. But to say Klaroline is the worst ship when Damon violated her, then Caroline never got justice for what he did! Her friends did nothing and she is now related to her rapist through Stefan who did nothing to stop it.

[thenerdyunhealthybrit]

Stanning according to the antis logic...

“Klaroline stans aren’t true Caroline stans and Klaus stans”

SC: “We want Caroline to die and reunite with Stefan” since that is clearly all her life amounts to, being a mother to the twins and being a wife/doormat to Stefan. Therefore, they have very misogynistic views.

CK: “We want Klaus to die and reunite with Cami” since the death of someone you love means that you have to die and abandon your daughter since a random human is more important than your daughter. Also they deadass established that Cami found peace, there is no way if Klaus dies that he will find peace, he will be going into hell or nothingness. He isn’t a good person, he still has done 1000 years worth of bad stuff and 4 seasons of shitty ass writing and OOC characterisation isn’t going to undo that magically. The ratio of the good to bad still heavily leans towards bad.

But of course, wanting Caroline and Klaus to embrace their vampirism and you know actually be alive means that we aren’t stans of them. We are fake.

Hell yeah I’m a Klaroline stans but I’m also a Klaus and Caroline stans separately and I want them to achieve their maximum potential which has been teased in early TVD. Klaus saw that Caroline was destined for greatness and I want to see her achieve that. Meanwhile Klaus was a badass and he needs to go back to that, prove why he was feared. So maybe they don’t ever reunite, or every become Klaroline officially, but I do not believe that for one second that Klaus and Caroline will never see each other again. They are cut for this vampirism and hybridism malarkey. It might not be today, or tomorrow but in a century or few. One thing we know is that Klaus is still keeping tabs on her and therefore he is just waiting and I think he’s be happy for her just to be in his life even if it’s not romantic.

[thenerdyunhealthybrit]

my-creative-poison(.)tumblr(.)com/post/158938346905/penum-braaa-starr178-replied-to-your-post If you're obsessed with klaroline you'll love this

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I’ve seen this a few times and every time I see it. I still love it, @my-creative-poison just slays every time, even though I feel it’s a bit redundant to CK shippers due to them being okay with a character that lives in a fantasy, who has prison groupie behaviour and whose sole purpose on the show is a love interest and to prop the male lead (And this is no disrespect to Leah, I have always thought she was one of the better actresses on the show, but the writers let her down and her lack of chemistry with Joseph, there was no fire or passion). There may have been build up - since apparently Joseph Morgan fought for no love interests in the first two seasons - then in season 3 Narducci could finally lay out his master plan - which failed. But it came out of nowhere. Klaus has always been someone who thinks he’s superior - superior to the vampires, superior to the wolves and definitely superior to humans. He only uses humans as a means to the end, yet straight away he uses Cami as a pawn in his games, yet so early on attempt to establish a connection through the memoirs (which were pointless and went nowhere) and through the party which is an awful example. Then by 1x04 he removes her agency by telling her to move on from her brother’s death which is her only reason for being in New Orleans and makes her seem like she’s going crazy. And let‘s not forget that by S2 Cami says that the only reason she is staying in New Orleans is because of Klaus. Because of a guy! And stans like to proclaim themselves as feminists. The writers proclaim themselves as feminists. 

–My biggest problem is that Leah proclaims that Cami is a feminist, strong and smart and proclaims herself as one, yet she had no problem with the direction she was heading as just a love interest, her only storyline being Klaus. Also Cami isn’t a feminist if her only purpose and obsession is Klaus and propping him up, she isn’t smart because if she was she would have walked away and left New Orleans, she would see how dangerous it is, it brought nothing but death and sadness for her. Her uncle and brother died in New Orleans. 

And this is sad because when Leah was cast, I was a fan and when I saw Cami at first I thought she had potential but quickly she was a prop for Klaus and she fails the Sexy Lamp Test and The Bechdel Test. A lot of her scenes wouldn’t make an impact on the overall plot. Especially S2.

[thenerdyunhealthybrit]

I ship klaroline I just hate and don't think we'll get sex scenes all sex scenes are lousy!!!

Okay? I’m assuming that you’re from Hillary’s blog? Are you talking about sex scenes in general or sex scenes in TO or TVD? Granted some sex scenes in general can be lousy, depending on the show, comedies like to make it funny and unromantic for example. 

As for Klaroline, I think if we get a sex scene, it won’t be lousy. I didn’t think the one in 5x11 was. The only thing lousy about it was the context, it was clearly quick fanservice to silence Klaroline stans (which failed) especially since at the time they had no intention to follow through. It’s their fault. They continued S4 of TVD with Klaroline as opposed to slowly ending it, then they left their story hanging, TO was already a success and renewed for a full season at the time so they decided that they didn’t need Klaroline anymore so they thought a quick romp in the forest would end it but it didn‘t. Simply because that is not how you end a story. When they ended Forwood (as much as I hated it) that felt like the end. 

Anyway, I’m going offcourse. My point is was that their 5x11 sex scene wasn’t awful, and if we get another sex scene, don’t fret because when you have two characters like Klaroline, who when together have such electrifying chemistry, it’s going to be great. Whether it’s half-assed or not.

As for The Originals though? They have never done sex scenes well or even romance well. All the ships would be male-centric and about the man, except Halijah, that’s more about Hayley. 

To be honest, I’m not going in expecting a sex scene and that is just because of all the variables, like there are only going to be 13 episodes, it takes place during Mardi Gras, which is only 2-4 weeks (A Non-American, sorry) and I’m expecting this to have more of a narrative focus than a character one. And let’s not forget we don’t know the context of Klaroline in S5. Have they been in contact at some point during the jump?

Plus, I think they might avoid it because Julie and Carina seem so determined to honour SC stans (even though a majority don’t watch TO nor care for Klaus, they just care that Caroline doesn’t end up with Klaus).

Sorry for the long post, but your Anon was short, I mean, if you disagree feel free to elaborate. Personally just saying that they’re lousy isn’t a strong enough reason to me, if you back it up with evidence, it would make a stronger case. Otherwise it just an opinion. I’m not trying to be rude, just be nice to elaborate why you think that way.

[thenerdyunhealthybrit]

Klaus is Caroline’s abuser, please!? You guys want Caroline to be in the same family as Damon, who abused her in Season 1 and made her feel like nothing. You want her to be married to someone that doesn’t care that there brother did that to her.  You want her to be married to someone that stabbed her as well (That’s just plain hypocrisy!), who chooses Damon over her, who chooses Elena, has left Caroline so many times, left Caroline for her safety but shacks up with Valerie while claiming to love her.

I’m not saying Klaus is perfect or ignoring that he did try to kill her once - because the first time, she was never going to die, it was part of his plan to get the Sheriff’s support. But abuse is a strong word. It implies long term and ongoing. Which is didn’t do to Caroline regularly unlike Damon.

I love my problematic Klaroline ship, I see it for what it is and know that it isn’t perfect. They should try the same, because their ship is not perfect, is not relationship goals, it isn’t healthy.

[thenerdyunhealthybrit]

Fanservice

When SCers say that Klaroline is 100% fanservice:

Like sure...Maybe it was untintended but if it was 100% fanservice then Klaroline would be together by now and we would of had like 4 seasons of Klaroline goodness already.

The biggest fanservice is the June Wedding. When that line was said, Stefan didn’t like Caroline, it was minor and was used for slight comedic effect. It was SCers hounding the cast with the June Wedding shit that made it happen. I even read that they were only aware because of the hounding them at SDCC Julie Plec was all “We are aware that it is there”.

It’s also funny that they believe the line that what Stefan has his humanity back that he’d be the man that she always loved. Bitch, please! She didn’t always love him. She was infatuated at first because he’s hot! Then you was with Matt and Tyler! I’m pretty sure you weren’t shouting “STEFAN!” when you were fucking them! - Ugh the writers have made such a mess!

At least “I intend to be your last” was written with the knowledge that it’s going to be epic. Honestly, Klaroline is one of the most quotable ships ever. That line is iconic and needs to be honoured. Caroline wasn’t even disgusted when the line was said, she was clearly happy (for Tyler - I won’t deny that) but flattered at the same time.

Plus, we need badass Caroline back, not the Caroline that is blinded by everything Stefan does (He didn’t need to kill Enzo, could of just snapped the neck). We need the Caroline that isn’t always obsessed with the June Wedding. We need the driven Caroline, the one with a purpose, the one that doesn’t revolve around a man.

The fact that Caroline appears to forgive Stefan for killing the love of her best friend’s life...I mean come on. Ho’s before Bro’s Caroline! (I’m not excusing Damon for killing Tyler - personally I want the Salvatore’s story to end the way Paul and Ian want: Defan Dying.

Also, he character development to regression reminds me of Jackie from That 70s Show. Both her and Caroline were similar in the beginning, Jackie developed - got put into an awesome pairing with Hyde, then because of writers they split them up made regressed the character.