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#The fandom is so toxic now no one can say nothing without being borderline hate crimed in the comments šŸ˜­šŸ™
ell-begins Ā· 1 month
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Iā€™m gonna get absolutely slaughtered for this one but itā€™s been bothering me for ages so I need to say it šŸ˜­šŸ˜­
I cannot see eddie being gay, like,,,at all
I mean, there is obviously the possibility of bi or pan etc, but I just cannot see him being gay (or tbh even liking men - STAY WITH ME HERE OK READ THE REST BEFORE YOU GET MAD šŸ™)
like youā€™re gonna sit here and tell me that the man who just got walked in on with a woman cosplaying his dead wife is a homosexual and is in love with his best friend? like do not get me wrong at all, I love buddie, and if they were to ever become a couple I would be ecstatic - but I genuinely cannot see eddie being romantically or even sexually involved with a man (especially not at the minute with where heā€™s at) šŸ˜­šŸ˜­
I could definitely see buck and eddie having a queerplatonic relationship, but at this point I donā€™t know if I could see them being in a romantic relationship, at least not right now. Eddie is going through it as of the end of season 7, even if they were to decide to make buddie cannon, eddie isnā€™t in a good place right now, and realistically it wouldnā€™t be happening anytime soon (and if it did I Imagine it would be slightly unhealthy)
I know some people are gonna be like ā€˜oh, he can have a revelation like buckā€™ but (although I am aware lou said it was initially gonna be eddie x tommy, meaning yes that is entirely possible and I completely understand why people think this will happen) the difference is that Oliver has being playing into buck being bi for years, this has been a widely accepted headcanon that even he has agreed with, so it made sense that it happened, and wasnā€™t just something that came out of nowhere. Ryan has consistently said that Eddie is straight (and while I understand that he isnā€™t the one who decides that + he has limitations on what he can say publicly) I feel like him having some form of revelation might not work (similar to why it was buck x tommy instead of eddie, as ryan didnā€™t think it would work for eddie + the whole marisol arc). And, as I said earlier, eddie realistically isnā€™t in a good place right now, and trying to push buddie after everything that happened at the end of s7 will likely cause it to fail before it truly starts, especially as itā€™s likely that it could be seen as Eddie using Buck as a rebound of sorts, rather than truly wanting to pursue a relationship
I have been a buddie shipper since late s3 so yall better not come for me for saying this šŸ˜­šŸ™ (Before anyone asks, yes I am a bucktommy shipper too - I am simply happy because BUCK is happy, I think they are cute and Buck is clearly doing well. And no, I am not ā€˜jumping shipā€™, I am doing this crazy thing called multishipping, which is common fandom practice šŸ„° so if I have anyone trying to call me out for abandoning buddie or whatever I might actually end it cuz there is no way šŸ˜­)
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rechoired Ā· 4 years
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A problem with the Tales Of Arcadia community
First and foremost, Iā€™d like to ask anyone taking the time to read this to please read the post all the way through before commenting on the matter. There is a lot of dirty laundry to unpack here, and some points will be building off previous ones.
Iā€™ll get right to the point. Most everybody in the Tales of Arcadia fandom will have heard of the blog imthegingerninjaĀ / ginger-le-gay. She is one of the most well-known ToA-centric blogs, after all. (If youā€™re wanting to avoid her on Twitter as well, her account is Margaret Bell, or @The_Book_Bell.)
This is your PSA, TOA fandom: Ginger is a toxic, manipulative person.
This is not a claim I like to make lightly, but itā€™s long overdue that this issue is properly brought up within the fandom.Ā 
Iā€™ve seen so many people wonder why the Tales of Arcadia fandom is so small. Well, I and many others very strongly believe that Ginger is one of the main reasons for that, if not the main one. To make matters easier, Iā€™ve tried to break this down into some main points. So letā€™s take a look at how Ginger falls under this category.
Disclaimer: Please DO NOT look at this post as an excuse to harass Ginger or any other blog mentioned here. This sort of behavior is NOT acceptable. The point of this post is to educate those who may not know the extent of her harrowing behavior, nothing more.
1. Dishonesty and Death Threats
[EDIT: Shortly after this post went up, she started blatantly lying about me to try to cover for herself. You can see those lies being easily disproven here]
Ginger has been kicked from at least three Tales of Arcadia servers, all for similar reasons of violence. While I cannot provide screenshots as I am no longer part of the servers they were in, there are multiple witnesses that can verify the disgusting behavior she engaged in. The one I saw specifically was her saying that certain members of the fandom should be gathered up and hunted for sport, among other gross things. (Elaboration of why can be found in point 3, though it still doesnā€™t excuse this kind of talk)
Here is some points made by another blog that also sums up similar issues with Ginger, though:
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While there were multiple instances of her inciting violence towards others, this is unfortunately one topic I cannot provide specific screenshots for at this time. But I will add them in as I can find them. That being said, I want to move to the dishonesty, something I do have a screenshot for.
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While you could argue that people sometimes notice the similar things, this is far too close together to be considered anĀ ā€œoriginal findā€. The reblog button is there for a reason, but she instead decides to steal the OPā€™s premise and present it as her own original thought.
There have been a couple other blogs that have confirmed that their theories and analysis posts were often stolen and presented as Gingerā€™s own as well, to the point where they stopped bothering even making such posts, as the above blog points out. (Out of respect for their privacy, I will not be naming these blogs. Say what you will about that possibly weakening my point, but if sheā€™s willing to so blatantly steal from that person shown above, it shouldnā€™t surprise you that sheā€™s so willing to do it to others.)
Theory-making and analysis posts arenā€™t as solidlyĀ ā€œoriginal contentā€ as a piece of art or fanfiction, sure, but itā€™s still common fandom courtesy to give credit where itā€™s due. Ginger has intentionally avoided extending that courtesy far too many times.
2. Hypocrisy
Most of this is going to be about past Merlin vs. Morgana drama, though there are also words to be said for the incredibly shaky relationships she forms withĀ ā€œfriendsā€.
But first letā€™s talk about those wizards.
This is a topic Iā€™ve tried to approach with Ginger before, but she borderline refused to acknowledge any of the points I was trying to make, and when she did, I donā€™t know if I just wasnā€™t being clear or what, but it honestly looked as though she was purposefully trying to misunderstand what I was saying in her bizarre responses. (To be fair, I was sending messages out of anger because she vagueposted about a blog I admired, calling them aĀ ā€œdisgusting creepā€ because of them simply saying theyā€™d hoped Jim and Merlin would be able to actually bond at some point... Not really a justifiable reaction to such a harmless thought, in my opinion. But my point is, I recognize that the circumstances may have clouded my ability to vocalize my thoughts clearly.)
That aside, we should first acknowledge this post Ginger made to save face after having gotten some backlash about hate-train related things (Side note: I couldnā€™t find the original post, so this is a screenshot I got from someone else. I did not add the writing. The text underneath it should still be slightly readable, I hope.):
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Taken at face value, this is a very reasonable post. I think everybody would and should be able to agree on it. Hate-meme him for fun, sure, but donā€™t actually harass or insult others over a fictional character. Simple, right?
Apparently not, because Gingerā€™s done loads of that to others. Probably why theĀ ā€œLOLā€ was added in, I bet.
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This post confused me. First of all, exploring dark topics (ā€angstā€, as you put it) has never been a rare occurrence, every fandom has that content, most in heavy abundance. Iā€™ve noticed no staggering difference in volume of this fandom compared to others Iā€™ve been in. People enjoy angst not because they think the character ā€œdeserves to be in painā€, they enjoy a fictional blow to their own emotions. Thereā€™s lots of different reasons people like angst, but itā€™s barely ever been out of a genuine hate for whatever characterā€™s the focus, from all the things Iā€™ve seen. Your own friends have indulged in Jim angst and body horror posts before, does that mean you think theyā€™re awful people? I feel like I shouldnā€™t have to explain something like this.
Also, way to basically admit you think all Merlin stans get off on child torture. So much for ā€œIf you like Merlin as a character, youā€™re validā€, am I right? God, what a mess of a post. (Itā€™s been very recently deleted, which makes me wonder if she got more backlash on it, but just... wow.)
Letā€™s look at another one.
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Again. Vagueposting about someone specific, Iā€™d wager, since most of the people Iā€™ve seen comment on this topic either think both characters are morally gray, or hate both.Ā 
But of course, when it comes to Morgana, suddenly excusing bad behavior can be justified. Ginger can call someone a disgusting creep because they want a familial bond between Jim and Merlin, thatā€™s just wrong, but pushing the Mom-gana narrative with the genocidal abuser and Toby is completely fine, folks.
(Note: I would like to point out that I really donā€™t care about what theories and hopes people have for Morgana. You should be allowed to love that character in any way you want, same as I would say for Merlin. My issue with these examples is the completely brazen hypocrisy in which these two characters are treated. Youā€™re obviously allowed to love Morgana without consequence, but the same should be said for any character of the show, and yet itā€™s not.)
The most obvious instance of this double-standard is well observable here, I believe:Ā 
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... I think this mostly speaks for itself. Sorry, but this is very blatantly trying to excuse Morganaā€™s actions, here.
Oh hey, remember that post about Ginger saying that liking Merlin must mean you want to see Jim in horrible pain?Ā 
Say anything similar about her with Morgana, and suddenly she takes issue with this line of reasoning!Ā 
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Iā€™m sorry, but if you canā€™t take this sort of thing, then you shouldnā€™t be dishing it out. One of your own friends is still getting hate over the simple fact of liking Merlin, and all this mentality is exactly why.
Letā€™s look at one more.
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Fun fact! Morgana horrifically abused somebody for centuries, tried to kill multiple kids, took horrible advantage of Claire (probably traumatized her), and canonically wanted to genocide humanity, not to mention all the OTHER murders she's committed, both directly and indirectly.
But somehow pointing any of this out ā€œdoesnā€™t countā€. This is why the fandom keeps saying more and more things like this:Ā 
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And this:
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I could be going through her constant hating on Merlin and people who like Merlin for days straight, but I hope you all get the idea by now.
Again, I would like to just reiterate: You can like whatever character you want for whatever reason you want. The problem with this case is the hypocrisy and mistreatment of others, not your taste in characters.
Now interestingly enough, sheā€™s lately been singing a different tune about the guy, switching from theĀ ā€œI hate Merlin I hope he dies!!!ā€ mentality toĀ ā€œOh he should get a redemption arc too :)ā€ sort of thing.
Iā€™m highly convinced that the only reasons for thisĀ ā€œchange of heartā€ is because of the constant backlash she was getting for the obnoxious amount of hate posts being thrown around all the time, but also because Aaron Waltke keeps tabs on the fandom more lately, and has spoken himself about Merlin not being a villain.
I could go on about this point forever, but I think Iā€™ll just leave the Merlin topic with this post going through the hypocrisy of the Merlin Hate Train. In fact, hereā€™s two just for fun.
Now onto more real-world focused areas of hypocrisy. One such instance can be found inĀ Gingerā€™s Janus Disorder server.Ā 
Just take a look at this post.
While the offender in this case isnā€™t Ginger specifically, it still takes place in her server, and she made no moves to enforce herĀ ā€œNo discourseā€ rule. All over... what? A random kudos on a fanfiction thatā€™s not even about anything controversial since all characters involved are adults? I immensely donā€™t understand the point of why this ever had to be an issue, or why nobody spoke up about how ridiculous this is.
Iā€™d also like to point out a certain user called firecat17. For some quick context, waaay back in the Kung Fu Panda fandom (around 2018), this user had been harassing people and saying incredibly vile things, a person of which Ginger had a bit of a feud, but firecatā€™s anon threats had gotten to the point where Ginger ended up having to block their IP.Ā 
Obviously, the user firecat was the one in the wrong, here. (Also, the irony in this comment is through the roof...)
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Interesting point there, Ginger. Sure would be nice if you practiced what you preached.
Why am I bringing this random old drama up, you may ask? Well, it just strikes me as strange that someone who was so vile to Ginger is suddenly on her okay-list again, sending her asks and getting casual responses as if nothing ever happened.
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To be fair, there is the possibility that they worked out their differences in private. But given the severity of the kinds of words being exchanged, I would still find that rather suspicious.
When someone whoā€™s said things so vile can be so easily forgiven, yet something as harmless as leaving a kudos on some random fanfiction is considered grounds for harassment, itā€™s obvious thereā€™s no stability or room for trust among this group of people. Unsurprising when thereā€™s been several instances of thisĀ ā€œfriend groupā€ turning on each other.
If you think youā€™re somehow different, that yourĀ ā€œfriendshipā€ with Ginger or the others is more valued than that, then Iā€™m sorry to burst your bubble but itā€™s likely not true. Sheā€™d throw you under the bus at the hint of you doing something she deems problematic, as itā€™s happened to multiple blogs before you.
3. Demonization of and insensitivity towards s*xual abuse victims
(This topic is one thatā€™s hard for me to talk about, being a victim of CSA myself, so Iā€™ve gathered some different sources to do most of the main talking for me. I tried to form more commentary on this myself, but I get too emotionally charged in my responses, and I donā€™t want that to cloud any readerā€™s perception of what Iā€™m trying to communicate here, so Iā€™ll try to keep most of my comments brief on this one.)
One thing recently brought to my attention about Ginger and her squad that especially bothers me is their rashness in labeling people p*dophiles and p*do apologists. If these claims were true, then I wouldnā€™t have a problem with it.
But these people are accusing others of these horrible things and threatening them on the sole basis of fictional content.
Now before you fly off the handle at me, let me be very clear: I absolutely understand that there are gross people out there who use theĀ ā€œItā€™s all just fictionā€ argument to hide their actual, pr*datory behaviors. (Weā€™ve all probably seen at least one or two neckbeard memes of that caliber)
But like it or not, exploring traumatic themes through a fictional lens is something that has been studied and proven to be a genuine coping mechanism for some. Itā€™s not something that works for me, but I knew a few people from past therapy groups that it worked surprisingly well for. Bringing a trauma into a controlled environment and processing it through fictional means can and does help some victims deal with what they went through.Ā 
Itā€™s important to understand that not everyone processes their experience in the same neat, little boxes you have laid out as the onlyĀ ā€œacceptableā€ ways of coping. Trauma fiction and expressive arts therapy are commonly used by victims, and it does help some people, whether you like it or not.
Iā€™m already dragging this on too much, so here are some sources for better-worded information on the topic (Warning: Most of these deal with highly sensitive themes such as gun violence and s*xual abuse.)
Source 1Ā -Ā Source 2Ā -Ā Source 3Ā -Ā Source 4Ā -Ā Source 5Ā (pages 61 onward, specifically) -Ā Source 6Ā -Ā Source 7Ā -Ā Source 8Ā -Ā Source 9Ā -Ā Source 10Ā (and believe me, if those all donā€™t satisfy you, I can easily supply more.)
And this quote from source 9 I think sums it up best:
ā€œFiction works differently. My imagination gives me a framework to process the grief and terror and the consequences, even when I myself have not found any resolution. It allows me to enter my own traumatic experiences sideways and linger inside them, if I know I can give them to characters who might be lucky enough to find the antidote: love, connection, community, family. In other words, I can enterā€Šā€”ā€Šand exitā€Šā€”ā€Šthe trauma loop through stories that are not exactly the same as mine.
This goes for the reader also. Recent studies periodically assure us that storiesā€Šā€”ā€Šliterary fiction, hardcover books, even the simple act of readingā€Šā€”ā€Špromote empathy. We rarely have identical experiences, so fiction is how we practice linking our similar or parallel realities so we can feel them. This seems particularly useful in our current society, where we are all so separated, and are working so hard to block the violence that keeps happening to us from our minds.
Fiction connects us, and it can also contribute to our healing. When we see ourselves in worlds we donā€™t live in, like The Handmaidā€™s Tale or The Color Purple, sometimes, that very different violence helps us finally process our own. Because as much as our memoirs and testimonies are brave and validating, fiction does not just mirror our truths so they are safe to experience; it also helps us endure the aftermath. Because long after the immediate experience is over, survival struggles onward, in every moment of our daily lives.ā€
While most professionals have in the past advised that victims keep their trauma-related works more private, to only show it to your trusted friends or family, the fast-growing use of the internet has led more people to sharing it in an online platform, which is not unexpected behavior.
I unfortunately donā€™t have the screenshot of the original post, but there was a post made some time back literally telling a fandom member to go and hang themselves over this garbage. A survivor of s*xual abuse, no less. And to top that off, one of Gingerā€™s squadĀ @emmy-puff commented in support of that violent post, as well as blatantly misgendering the target of it. While, again, I was unable to get screenshots, there are multiple witnesses to this instance, one Anonymous even having called them out on it back when it happened. (I suspect that Emmy deleted that answer due to how bad it made them look.) If anybody reading this has screenshots of the initial post or the ask that came of it, please feel free to share.
I donā€™t care who you are or who youā€™re talking about, if you use misgendering someone as a way to hurt them, then you are an insult to the trans community. That is an awful thing to do, and you lose so much credibility if thatā€™s the only thing you can fall back on when getting in a fight with someone. While this post isnā€™t about Emmy specifically, this is exactly the kind of hateful rhetoric thatā€™s being encouraged in the environment Gingerā€™s made.
Another thing I would like to point out on this matter is an instance that happened in the ToA fandom a couple years back. I, again, donā€™t have screenshots available (I believe the original post ended up deleted) but the post in question caused enough of a fuss that Iā€™m sure a few people must remember it...Ā 
A while back, there was an artist that posted uncensored, untagged r*pe art of Aaarrrgghh, Gunmar, and Jim in the main Trollhunters tag. As you can imagine, this infuriated many people. Many of which are among the list of those whoā€™ve been labeledĀ ā€œp*do apologistsā€. Almost the very minute that post showed up in the tag with no trigger warnings of any kind, the fandom immediately got on OPā€™s tail about it, because they all shared that basic understanding ofĀ ā€œThis is a traumatizing subject for many people and they should have the ability to avoid itā€. If the people youā€™ve labelled as pr*dator supporters were really as awful as you say they are, they wouldā€™ve jumped to that personā€™s defense, too. But they were completely against OPā€™s horrible lack of consideration of survivors, right alongside the rest of the fandom.
Am I saying you have to like trauma fiction? Absolutely not. Are there people that make trauma fiction that are actual pr*dators? Iā€™m sure there are. But those people would be that way whether trauma fiction was out there or not.Ā Gross people have existed and will always exist regardless of what media is out there.
I deeply understand the controversy, uncertainty, and stress that surrounds this topic, I promise you, I do. But the fact of the matter is, some people actually do use trauma fiction and expressive arts therapy as a way of coping, as has been observed in people even from ages as young as 5. To say otherwise is blatantly untrue. This isnā€™t a matter of opinion or morals, this is plain, studied facts that you cannot change about human psychology.
Nobody should ever have to go through something as horrible as s*xual abuse of any kind, and I know how deeply upsetting it can be to see certain images or stories with those themes in play. Those users with a sense of decency and understanding for fellow victims will tag their posts with the appropriate warnings. After that, itā€™s up to you to filter out what you donā€™t want to see. You curate your own internet experience, and itā€™s just plain irrational to try and harass everyone into conforming to your rules. While itā€™s an 18+ blogā€™s job to make sure to tag and label their content appropriately, it is your job to block the things you donā€™t want to see, whether youā€™re an adult or a minor. It is YOUR job to blacklist content that you know will upset you, because it is always going to exist on the internet, and any internet user needs to know and understand that. Multiple times Iā€™d seen people going off about posts that were already appropriately trigger-tagged. If you donā€™t have those upsetting tags blacklisted by now, then the fault is mostly on you in that kind of case, not the OP.
Before I end this topic off, just one more example of blatant disrespect towards victims:
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Iā€™m sorry, but the absolute nerve of comparing some random fictional character youā€™re petty over to an actual pr*dator whoā€™s terribly hurt real children is just awful. Imagine how insulted one of Onionā€™s victims would be if they saw that. Lord.
Ginger claims to care about victims, but sheā€™s made it abundantly clear that she only cares about those that behave the way she think a victim should.
4. AbleismĀ 
Iā€™m going to just show a couple posts here and let them mostly speak for themselves.Ā 
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Just... my God. You looked at the definition of psychopath and decided that was enough to give you qualification to speak like this about it? Do you realize the extensive work and study of human psychology goes into the diagnosis and understandings of psychopathy? Not to mention, you just admit to thinking people deserve hate because of a mental disorder they legitimately have no control over? Iā€™m sorry, but that is just cruel. Demonization of the mentally ill is not cute or funny. Next.
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While Iā€™m still annoyed with Emmyā€™s transphobic treatment of another user mentioned earlier, they make a very solid point in this instance. (The first post they referenced has since been deleted, but hereā€™s the second one speaking out against the ableism.) I feel I donā€™t need to add much to this, as these points have already been argued very well by users better qualified to speak on the subject than I.
5.Ā Manipulation tactics
This part is more observations of two kinds of abuse tactics Ginger appears to demonstrate, using the above as points of reference.Ā 
First, thereā€™s DARVO.
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Then, less formally, thereā€™s this good point about online cult mentality.
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Before you say anything, obviously I donā€™t think Ginger thinks of herself as some sort of deity.Ā While it could be argued that she considers herself a point of authority within the TOA fandom maybe, I havenā€™t seen enough of this to say for sure how far that goes. So that point can be ignored, because it mostly doesnā€™t apply in this case. (TheĀ ā€œDictating parts of your online lifeā€ might also not apply, but I canā€™t say for sure as I havenā€™t gotten any confirmation of that sort of thing in Gingerā€™s group.)
But there are grains of truth in the other four points, especially that last one. Plain and simple, sheā€™s made people afraid to speak their minds about even harmless things such as character analysis.
Ginger is someone who canā€™t seem to comprehend different viewpoints and life experiences. Sheā€™s extremely unsympathetic towards people she doesnā€™t understand, as can be observed in above examples. Assuming malicious intent from everybody you canā€™t understand is a dangerous and hurtful mindset to have, for both you and those who you unnecessarily scorn.
There are a few outcomes Iā€™ve speculated should she ever come to see this post.
1. She will ignore this post completely, pretending as if it doesnā€™t exist
2. She will dismiss me as being some sort of horrible person, a p*do apologist or something of the sort (despite being a victim of that myself, clearly she doesnā€™t care about whoā€™s actually been hurt by real p*dos or not if they donā€™t conform to her narrow worldview), and claim nothing Iā€™ve said bears any meaning, despite the extensive evidence Iā€™ve provided.
3. She will get people to try and attack me.Ā 
4. She will actually address these points in a tactful, mature, and serious manner instead of her usual act of trying to dismiss everything at the slightest hint of non-conformity. (The least likely outcome, but one can dream.)
I could add to this post all day, but itā€™s long enough as it is and my focus was on getting the main points out of the way. I understand that I lack some of the receipts necessary to back myself up in a few parts, but I know that many other fans have bared witness to those things, so I know there will be at least some people whoā€™ll know what I speak of is true, and thatā€™s good enough for me.
That being said, if anybody has screenshots of the instances I wasnā€™t able to provide for, it would be greatly appreciated if you could add them into the conversation.
!!!-If you have screenshots, but are too uncomfortable to get involved in this, then you can private-message them to me and I would be grateful and more than happy to add them in while keeping you completely anonymous.-!!!
(I've removed the section with all the tags, as I recognize it was probably going overboard. My goal was just to spread information, not to try and involve those tagged, but I understand how that may have gotten lost in translation and made people uncomfortable. Also, it apparently was showing up multiple times in peopleā€™s notifications when I only tagged people twice, so Iā€™m not sure why that glitch happened, but I apologize for that annoyance as well.)
Now, to end us off, my responses to questions or angry comments Iā€™m probably going to get:
You donā€™t even have all the evidence! How are we to know youā€™re not just lying about some of this?
Admittedly, I donā€™t have as much screenshot proof as I would like, thatā€™s true. But for most of the instances I couldnā€™t provide for, there were other witnesses to her bad behavior. I donā€™t really have the need to lie when thereā€™s already a lot of knowledge out there of the bad stuff she has done. Nor do I really have the emotional investment in this fandom anymore to lie for the pointless reason of causing drama.
Why post this on a throwaway account if you think people are on your side?
I just donā€™t really want my main blog associated with TOA anymore, to be frank.
You tagged a bunch of people, so you must be trying to get them to attack Ginger!
No. I tagged a bunch of people because I think this information should be heard on a wider scale, considering the position Ginger has in the fandom. I donā€™t want her or anybody else to be attacked, but her negative impact on this fandom deserves to be acknowledged.
Again, I donā€™t think Ginger or any of the others deserve harassment or cyberbullying or anything of that manner, thatā€™s kind of what this whole post is against. And it just hurts the situation more than it helps it. What bothers me is how sheā€™s never apologized for or even once acknowledgedĀ the gross way sheā€™s treated people. While she might be more low-key about it now, she still treats people who donā€™t deserve it like garbage. There are still several people upset about the damage sheā€™s caused to this fandom, rightfully so. I wouldnā€™t be so loud about making this post if I didnā€™t think it was something worth drawing attention to.Ā 
Thank you for reading.
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pluviophile-bookworm Ā· 3 years
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HSMTMTS 2x9: so dreaded, so exciting, 'Sword!' (yeah, I went there, I've been thinking about this scene - you know the one - since yesterday for some reason)
After two computer malfunctions and a very tough, very sleepless night, here I am with a third attempt to write this post. The universe is against me today. Is Mercury in retrograde or something? Ugh, I just want to get this over with already. And I haven't even managed to see half the episode yet. You better like this cursed post because it's taken me two hours at this point, and will probably take another to finish - and that is if nothing goes wrong this time. Please bear with me. This is my reaction to HSMTMTS 2x9, take 3. Let's hope and pray it's the last one.
I'm normally [unpopular opinion alert] a very spoiler-positive person (it's the combination of anxiety and ADHD and a bunch of other stuff, I suppose), but for this one I've been refraining from looking at the tag all morning, so by now I'm simply bursting with impatience. But before we dive in, I need to get some stuff off my chest.
Some pre-watch thoughts and feelings (let's see how well they will have aged by the end of the episode):
Seriously, what is with whoever writes this show? I know it's impossible, but I feel like they've been toying with my emotions specifically all season. Like:
Ah, so you were a Rini shipper last season? Great, now we'll make them obnoxious and borderline toxic to the point where you actually want them to break up, but then their old chemistry will be back just for the breakup scene so that you can cry your eyes out over the one couple you couldn't stand - even though you can't seem to relate to a single song from Sour, we'll make you feel like you do for a hot second. At least it will remind you that you loved Ricky.
So you say Redlyn own your heart and soul? Great, we'll make you dread something going wrong with them for a week straight, and mess up your sleep schedule beyond repair over it. You're welcome!
We heard you said Rodfini give you life? Perfect, how about a big Seblos fight? And would you like a side of questioning your choice to stan Carlos with that? Because what is life without a little anxiety, a bit of doubt of your ability to read people, and a pinch of existential dread, right?
Ah, so you claimed not to ship Portwell romantically, is that right? Brilliant, we'll make you ship them and then we'll use that to torture you, too.
You've been excited about ABF and Asher Angel guest-starring ever since they were announced? Magnificent! We'll make you hate ABF's character to the point where you can't even look at him, and we'll make you call him names you thought yourself incapable of uttering. And as for Asher, you'll be left waiting for him until the last third of the season, and then you'll dread the possibility of hating his character, too. Do you love us yet?
Oof! Right then, I've got that out of my system. Time to dive in.
Miss Jenn playing around with the backgrounds is, like, 90% of the people who had online school this year, and honestly, I love that for her.
Wait, why is Nini first on this call? Are they going through with the Rose thing? Cos like, the song is nice and all (and, might I add, much more to my taste than nearly all of Sour, don't @ me), but if they use it, it will get them disqualified. Theyā€™ve been told that! Gosh, please let me be wrong about this.
We get it, Carlito, rich and fancy and over-the-top is kind of your thing, but have you stopped for a second to think about how others will feel about this? Especially Seb, whom you claim to care about. Seriously, though, I love Carlos and would not hesitate to die for him, but Iā€™m getting the feeling that, unlike my other favourite (you know the one), he wouldnā€™t do the same for me. Oh well, heā€™ll figure it out. Heā€™s just a kid. Give him time.
Wait, Milky White? Is that an Into the Woods reference I smell? Cool! If I had a cow, Iā€™d totally name her Milky White (or Gertrude, but donā€™t ask me why). I just hope they donā€™t have to, like, take her to the market and exchange her for magic beans, if you catch my drift.
Ahhhhh, Caswell cousins content! We love to see it!
ā€˜You guys are watching, like, old old moviesā€™ WTH, Nini (or is it Nina)? Scary Movie is literally younger than me. But what do you know about it, you 21st-century baby! Ugh, I donā€™t know why Iā€™m being so hostile today... must be the lack of sleep. Hope it doesnā€™t influence my reactions to the episode so dramatically as to make me forget how much I love this series. Because I do.
Yay! Big Red is here! I can finally smile. And did Ash just say theyā€™re soulmates? Because yes they are! Ahhh my heart is going to explode.
ā€˜Nini, have you heard from [Ricky]?ā€™ Yikes, awkward... but of course, Big Red can be counted on to save the day here, too.
Ok, so that was a cool cold open. Time for some nice in-person scenes, though. I did not spend all of three semesters doing online school just to have the characters of my favourite series do the same.
Wow, Gina is really embracing that French accent thing! And I really donā€™t want to think about, erm, ā€˜Napoleon over hereā€™ right now, but I really think the fact that sheā€™s doing it better than him will be another piece of evidence towards my theory of fake-French!Antoine... ugh, I said his name. Oh well. Back to Gina. Too bad the French thing didnā€™t work out for her.
Ahhhh, Portwell with Ash in the background! And Ash is going to paint EJā€™s nails! I feel like heā€™s going to end up loving that, despite what he says right now. But seriously, I just love how comfortable these two are with each other. Can you blame me now for shipping them as friends? Well, I mean, itā€™s obvious they will be more than friends, and somehow, despite the amatonormativity of it all, Iā€™m here for it.
Wait, was that Asher? That was Asher, Iā€™m 100% sure of it. And Gina said ā€˜a signā€™ and then looked at him, even from the back... what am I supposed to think and feel here? Iā€™m confused. Moving on.
Ahh, poor Ricky being a burrito... good thing that breakup scene last time reminded me that I love him, because the entirety of the season before that was very good at making me forget that.
Wait, did she say ā€˜the Beanā€™? As in, that Bean? The infamous Bean? LOL.
ā€˜So the only time you two talk to each other is to gossip about meā€™ Boy, did I feel that. I once got my hands on my dadā€™s mobile and I... kind of went through his texts with mum. Yep, all about me and my brother. At this point I feel like theyā€™re only together because of us. But this is getting too personal. Iā€™m here about the episode, not to rant about my family. Moving on.
Yikes, looks like Niniā€™s got writerā€™s block all over again. Am I supposed to feel sorry for her? Because I kind of donā€™t. I mean, no hate towards her, none at all, but that entire scene just felt awkward and unnecessary. And not just because itā€™s her first time going live. That I can understand. What I donā€™t understand is why the writers canā€™t seem to do anything creative and interesting with Nini. Olivia is being wasted there. Idk, thatā€™s just how I feel. Again, no hate.
Ahhhhh itā€™s Asher! And well, heā€™s not Jonah, but I kind of really like him as Jack. I wonder if that will last.
So is it just me, or is anyone else not quite sure how to feel about Rickyā€™s mum? I mean, their interactions seem kind of awkward and strained, but thatā€™s how itā€™s supposed to be given their recent history, and yet something just doesnā€™t sit quite right with me.
ā€˜You there, Muse? Itā€™s me, Nini!ā€™ Ah, so itā€™s Nini again? I didnā€™t get the memo. Gosh, this episode is kind of really underwhelming. The most exciting thing so far (but not nearly as exciting in practice as it was in theory) ā€“ Asher and Sofiaā€™s on-screen reunion. The second most exciting thing? The thought of Ash painting EJā€™s nails. Everything else? Kind of ā€˜whateverā€™. Is this what I tossed and turned about all night? Totally not worth it. This episode better get, like, 300% better right this instant. Itā€™s just not worth all the frustration and excitement and dread so far.
Looks like my prayers from just now have been heard! That improv scene was hilarious! Guess it was lucky that Miss Jenn had them do improv before this moment. But I need to know more of Jackā€™s backstory now.
Ok, so that was awkward! So Kourtney is talking to Howie again, I guess. And I guess I know now what Carlos did that was all public and no subtle. Still, whatā€™s wrong with posting photos from your holiday? Guess I donā€™t exactly know yet what Carlos did to piss the others off so much.
Great, now Iā€™m tempted to google butterfly faces. Good thing Iā€™m not eating anymore. *** Ughhhhh this was a mistake! Please donā€™t ever look a butterfly in the face if you want to stay sane. Donā€™t be like me.
Ahhh the Duke sweater! ā€˜Is that your boyfriendā€™s?ā€™ Well, not quite yet, itā€™s not... *screams in Portwell*
Oh, now weā€™re talking! But seriously, Ricky? The ā€˜my friends thinkā€™ card? Why donā€™t you just say ā€˜I thinkā€™? Itā€™s clearly something youā€™ve thought about a lot. I feel like Iā€™m going to love this scene or cry over it or both.
Ooh, therapy. Itā€™s not just... basically the entire fandom... who says it now. Please tell me that means Ricky will be going to therapy at some point. Says the girl who is currently firmly refusing to go to therapy in favour of hyperfixating on HSMTMTS and getting back into the good old practice of having imaginary friends... yeah, Iā€™m one to talk.
My, my, my! Seb has really had it now. I mean, it was about time, but... not quite like this. My heart is starting to do some weird stuff, I can feel it. I might need to lie down.
Ok, so as much as I envy North High for getting to see so many shows on BWay ā€“ basically living out my dream ā€“ stalking East High on Instagram and being shady about them taking a well-deserved break... just goes beyond all limits. I mean, if youā€™re so into Broadway shows, you should know as well as I do what happened the last time a certain founding father did not take a break. Maybe youā€™re the ones in need of a break here.
Nini on the call with the Caswell cousins, though... ā€˜Iā€™m obsessed with both of youā€™ ā€“ first relatable thing sheā€™s said or done all season. And EJ playing with old toys is pure gold.
Oh, so Jackā€™s dad is a pilot. Makes sense, I guess. Iā€™m kind of intrigued by this guy. Just as long as he doesnā€™t try to come between Portwell before theyā€™ve had the chance to happen, you know...
Ashlyn might need to stop swooning over Niniā€™s songwriting or Big Red might get jealous... I mean, I would not have pinned him as the jealous type before 2x7, but ever since then... I guess insecure + dating a girl like Ash = the jealous type. And although that looks good on him, Iā€™d bet anything it doesnā€™t feel particularly pleasant on his side. So... wait, why am I talking about Big Red? He hasnā€™t even got anything to do with the scene at hand. But then again, thereā€™s been so little Big Red content in this episode that I seem to be trying to make up for it. Still. Stay focused.
Ooh, so Big Red did edit that video! Is there anything my boy canā€™t do? Ok, now I feel like heā€™s even more criminally underappreciated than he was before. But letā€™s look at the video. Iā€™m curious to see the whole thing because that sneak peek from yesterday simply hasnā€™t been enough.
That was... really, really cool! I love how they took the ā€˜when they go low, we go highā€™ line from last time and run with it. Now if only they were putting as much effort into BATB... North High wouldnā€™t know what hit them.
Hmmmm... I guess Gina and Jack could be what I originally wanted Portwell to be... really cool friends. Unless itā€™s one of those ā€˜airport magicā€™ things. Oh well. It probably is. Was that all weā€™re seeing of Asher here? I did not wait 2/3 of the season for this. Though it was nice.
Ooh, Rickyā€™s solo song... why is there more Rini chemistry in this song than there was in all the season? Not counting the breakup scene, of course. Also, I feel like itā€™s just as much about him and his mum as it is about Nini. Some say music is the best therapy. I think they might be right. And no, Iā€™m not crying. You are.
The granola bar, though... this episode might have been very underwhelming in the first half, but... it delivered in the Portwell front, and the music was *chefā€™s kiss*, so Iā€™m willing to let it slide that the advertised Seblos ā€˜big fightā€™ was not touched upon nearly enough. Maybe next week...
Ok, now that weā€™re done watching the episode, letā€™s see how my feelings from the beginning have aged:
The Rini breakup: apparently, along with reminding me that I love Ricky, it has rendered me unable to look at Nini. Whatā€™s up with that? If this is some sort of tactic along the lines ofĀ ā€˜Olivia might be leaving the show so weā€™re making you hate her character so that you wonā€™t miss herā€™, itā€™s not really working. Because I donā€™t want to hate Nini. Believe me, I donā€™t.
Redlyn: ok, so thereā€™s nothing wrong with them whatsoever - we even got aĀ ā€˜soulmatesā€™, which I loved - but first theyā€™re being swept under the rug, and then the antis come at us with thatĀ ā€˜their relationship is underdevelopedā€™ nonsense. Individually, though, I liked them in this episode (even if there was a significant shortage of Big Red), and Ashlyn collaborating with Nini again was cool, but... what I really wanted to see was her painting EJā€™s nails. Did she even get the chance to actually do it? Maybe next week.
Seblos: Iā€™m still failing to understand exactly what Seb thinks Carlos did wrong (please enlighten me if you did catch that, Iā€™m kind of slow), but he (Seb) does have reasons to be mad at him (Carlos)... and at other people, too. Still, if you want to have a fight between two people in a relationship, you could do much better than whatever this episode was. Maybe next week. I notice Iā€™m saying that a lot. Guess Iā€™m putting a lot of hopes on 2x10. I just pray it doesnā€™t disappoint.
Portwell: boy, am I happy that my frustration on this front did not age well! What I mean is, apparently theyā€™ve decided to bless us, not torture us for once. Even a rather disappointing episode like this one had to have some sort of silver lining. And Portwell is it.
Asher as Jack: well, luckily I didnā€™t hate him, but... itā€™s kind of the opposite problem. I loved him and now theyā€™re taking him away from me. Guess I just canā€™t win here. Oh well. At least he didnā€™t have the screen time to get in between Portwell...
All in all: 2x10, my hopes and prayers are with you!
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I am curious about your take on something. So Taekook probably hate the idea of Taekook, right? If Jk and Jimin are together (as I beleive they are) then the very idea of taekook has to be like sooo weird for everyone, especially when it results in hate directed at Jimin. So why don't Taekook agree to like NEVER LAY HANDS ON ONE ANOTHER in public. I know they shouldnt have to. They like skinship and all. And no one is going cray cray over jinkook or jihope etc. But its an easy fix? Maybe not?
Tradshippers... Haha.
The gag being Tuktukkers say the same thing about Jimin and Jikook all the time- if V is his soulmate and friend, shouldn't he keep his hands off JK? Shouldn't he respect the sanctity of his friends' relationship? Doesn't he care that his actions with JK hurt Tae? That he is wrecking another man's home, yadda, yadda, yadda.
Heard it all before. Not particularly impressed by that level of rudimentary mental adroitness- at all. It all flows from insecurities and or the shipper's dissatisfaction with how these people in reality interact with one another because that often tend to be in disharmony with their shipping fantasies about their OTP.
The shipping community in general is a fantasy bubble. Haven't done much research on its demographics but from my observation, it seems the younger demographic can't seem to detach fantasy from reality while the much 'adult' population'- perhaps, for fear of having their reality warped or their hearts broken, are too engrossed in reality as such tend to approach shipping with quizical glares at best, cynicism, skepticism and what I like to call a false sense of logic- at worst.
Then of course, there are those in between.
But one thing they all seem to have in common is their emotional response to the demystification of their fantasies. Like any fantasy, people tend to lash out at or carry resentment towards anything or anyone that threatens their false sense of safety built around their fantasy.
For Taekookers they tend to lash out at Jimin or even Jokers because they threaten their sense of ship safety. Jokers do the same with JK more so than Tae, but Tae too nevertheless.
Taekook, Jinkook and the other ships Jikooker's are threatened by are viewed as threats and looked upon with disdain and resentment only because they ruin the fantasy of Jikook for them and nothing else.
And if that's not the case, then these people are too invested in someone else's relationship and lack both personal and emotional boundaries- it's their relationship not ours.
You can't sit in your homes, behind the screens and pilot someone else's relationship or point out what is wrong with their relationship and feel strongly about it to the point you start demanding and dictating how they should relate with eachother or their friends- that's entitlement and borderline toxicity which is scary, not gonna lie.
Jikook and Vmin equally ruin the fantasy of Taekook for their shippers. And they look to Jimin as the grinch and killjoy, hence lash out against him without reservation.
In a perfect shipping alternate universe, Taekook or Jikook would be couples within a group where it's glaringly clear that they are couples and as such no other ship would compete or interact with them in a way that raises questions about the general perception of them as a couple unit within the group or threaten their status as such. But this is reality. Not fantasy. And it just doesn't work that way.
Most of these conversational topics you raise are about how people want their OTP to behave rather than how their OTP actually behave towards one another.
It's especially disconcerting when their disapproval of an interaction stems from them 'wrongly' labeling or interpreting that interaction as 'intimate' and or romantic and proceed to go on an emotionally charged rant on behalf of their OTP calling for them to instill boundaries.
Maybe Tae is not instilling boundaries for JK with Jimin because he doesn't have the right to? Because he is not in a relationship with either Kook or Jimin?
Maybe Jimin is not telling Tae and Kook to keep the skinship off cameras because he is not bothered by the 'hate he receives' because of their interactions?
Tae kook have been interacting on our screens for 7 good years. You think if Jimin found their interactions as problematic or disrespectful to his relationship with Kook that he wouldn't have nipped that in the bud?
Have you not seen him react a countless time to when he is uncomfortable with an interaction that crosses his limits or boundaries? It should tell you he doesn't have a problem with Tae Kook at all.
He only has a problem when an interaction crosses the line. Same with JK. And if due to his ideosyncracy he can't stomach an interaction, he averts his eyes. I don't think he would want them to stop interacting all together. If he did that would be problematic because they are all friends and he doesn't own Kook or vice versa.
Also the statement that Tae Kook need to keep their skinship off camera because Jimin receives a lot of hate because of it is a non sequitur. Tae kook is not the reason Jimin recieves a lot of hate in the fandom. Jikook is.
Taekook doesn't hurt Jimin, Jikook does. People lash out at Jimin because of his interactions with JK not because of JK's interaction with with Tae.
So the solution would not be for Tae and Kook to keep their skinship off camera, it would be for JK and Jimin to not interact on camera at all. I mean if we are being honest.
And all those who claim JK isn't protecting Jimin because his interactions with Tae is what fuels the passions of Tuktukkers towards Jimin, think again...
JK puts up boundaries with Tae as it is. Out of all BTS, they are the two who have openly admitted to having 'drifted apart' over the years- I wonder why. When Tae spoke about wanting JK to treat him as a friend rather than hyung, JK told him he couldn't do that because that would have led to a lot of fights between them. What other boundaries do y'all expect him to put up again?
Dude rarely nurtures his relationship outside Jimin within the group- responding to texts a whole year later and what not.
And even with this, Jimin recieves a lot of backlash regardless. I think we need to stop justifying hate. There is no justification for hate. No excuse is excuse enough for the traumatization of another human being.
JK equally gets dragged for filth in these shipping streets. Tuktukkers hate him as much as they hate Jimin because of his interactions with Jimin. Tae stans hate him. Jimin stans hate him. He is neither here nor there. He got called a pig, sissy, and all kinds of derogatory names when he pulled away at KBS when Tae wanted to hold his hands.
Jokers, PJM jokers drag him for filth in their gcs and shit and equally hates on him because to him he doesn't love Jimin enough or at all. Especially, when he doesn't interact with JM in a way that pleases them.
The problem is Jikook. Both Jimin and JK will have their peace of mind if they didn't interact at all and kept their relationship private. The best way for JK to protect his boyfriend from all this bullshit is to keep a safe distance from him and act like he doesn't know him or never met him- because that is how Kpop idols usually protect their relationships.
And yet, and YET, when he does just that y'all jump on his neck on every turn, screaming Jk hates Jimin and doesn't love him. I gotta ask-
WHAT Y'ALL WANT FROM JK?!
People just like to ruin beautiful things, don't they?
And while we are at it, let me address this Ask I got a few days ago claiming if JK loves Jimin then it doesn't make sense for him to want to act so loud with Jimin or express his feelings for him in a way that out's their relationship because that can hurt Jimin and bring him a lot of hate...
You think Jimin openly loving on JK doesn't bring JK a lot of hate too? Damn. It's the double standards for me. Lmho.
Listen, JM has a duty to protect JK just as much as JK has a duty to protect JM. By your logic, if Jimin loves Jk then he equally needs to stop doting on him in public because his love causes JK as much pain as JK's love causes Jimin- but Jimin can't stay away now can he?
Jimin had to ask JK permission to express himself the way that he does with him- on their Log when he asked JK if he was ok with him saying he loved him on camera. Jk had a need to keep their relationship private, Jimin had a need to keep it open and clearly didn't want to hide their relationship. But they have since outgrown their old selves. Their wants and their needs have changed- if you pay attention to JK's lyrics in recent times.
Their dynamics keep flipping. And they are constantly negotiating their needs, from my perspective anyway- let them do them. Y'all didn't seem to have a problem when in their earlier dynamics Jimin was the one pushing for them to be open with their relationship. JK eventually gave up his need to hide their relationship didn't he? And overtime he became comfortable expressing affection for Jimin openly.
Yet, suddenly when JK wants the same thing in their relationship y'all claim he is being unreasonable and unfair towards Jimin? Huh?
Granted, he over does it sometimes. Yes. Lol.
But you can't hold Jikook to different standards. They are both human and their feelings for eachother are equally valid. Their needs from eachother are valid in the same weight.
If Jimin gets to show the whole world just how much he loves JK and because of that many people are convinced Jimin loves JK more than JK loves him- even if half of the time he is using fanservice as a cover or even his persona as a cover, then why can't JK equally use his art or whatever means he prefers as a cover to show the world just how much he loves Jimin?
...Even if half of the time he is borderline outing him and getting him in trouble? Lol. That's just the love if you ask me. Hehehe.
Chilee JK, you make it hard to defend you sometimes! Lol. Just don't out your man. How hard is that!šŸ˜­šŸ¤­
Seriously though, you don't think he wants people to see he loves Jimin too? Damn, y'all be reading Jimin wrong. Because Jimin loves it when JK shows the world he loves him... Did you see his face after Rosebowl? Why do you think JK keeps cutting it close? Dude is gunning for the points. Lmho. Jikook speak eachother's love language. Let that sink in.
If JK is pushing against the glass closet it's because he is convinced that that is something Jimin wants but is afraid to go after and he is the fearless one among the two. Y'all just be fighting the wrong battles. Lmho.
Jikook is asserting themselves against eachother. They are pushing eachother's boundaries and I don't think that is necessarily a bad thing.
You can't claim JK doesn't love Jimin and in the same breath condemn and disapprove of the ways he expresses himself and his love for Jimin- I think you need to free JK now!
Between Tuktukkers and certain Jokers, I don't know who is worse- Nevermind, I'm not a fan tradshippers in general.
JK is there to please his man not shippers and the way I see it Jimin looks like a satisfied customer to me.
If you are dissatisfied with Jikook, there are a countless other ships in BTS. Get on one. See how that goes. Lol.
Where were we, Anon?
Oh right, Tae Kook. Lol.
I think we need to learn to hold the right people accountable for their actions. The problem is not Tae Kook, or Jikook or any other ship. The problem is with the toxic shippers who use them as an excuse to perpetuate unfathomable hurt towards the boys and towards others.
I think Tuktukkers need to develop a better attitude towards Jikook. Jikooker's need to do the same about Tae Kook or Jin Kook.
Personally, I would rather Jikook kept their relationship private but I also understand their need to take advantage of the glass closet- secrets are hard to hide. They get heavy before they get easy.
And Jimin loves to be loved. He loves when you show him off. It's part of his love language. You can't date him and Keep him a secret- and still we question why JK doesn't want to hide him.
If y'all don't want to ship Jikook that's fine. I'll ship them myself.šŸ˜’
Whatever decisions they are making, I support it wholeheartedly. I support them with every fiber of my being.
LONG LIVE JIKOOK. JIKOOK IS REAL.
Signed,
GOLDY
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Another reason why Iā€™m against IronDad/Uncle Tony is also the fact the relationship we see on screen is borderline toxic and highly neglectful. Only time Tony was a somewhat decent mentor was at beguine of Infinity War when he told Peter go home, but even that gets thrown out the window when he drags Pete raking his highly stupid ā€œ Take the Fight To Thanos!ā€ Idea.
Tony Stark is one of those characters that the fandom doesn't actually love, even though they claim to. The evidence is the fact the fact that the version of the character that exists in fanon is not at all what actually happened in the movies. You can't point that out to them, though, because then they get really upset and insist that you just hate Tony because he's "everything Steve Rogers isn't!"
... which, I mean, is true. Steve Rogers never imprisoned and abandoned his friends or let his ego stand before rational thought in a life-threatening situation.
The problems that arise from this Irondad/Uncle Tony bullshit are another matter entirely.
I've stated multiple times, as have others, that the Peter of the MCU is Peter Parker only in name and nothing else. They completely erased the core of that character and replaced it with Tony Stark, whether at RDJ's insistence or not, and its royally fucked over Marvel's most iconic superhero. I've been seeing those people doing the whole song-and-dance of "but Uncle Ben isn't important to Peter in the MCU", and I'm left just gaping at my phone wondering how they can be so dense.
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Like, the point just flies right over their head that Uncle Ben is SUPPOSED TO BE IMPORTANT to Peter. Hell, what happens to Peter is his origin story! It's what made him decided to stop selfishly using his powers and really become everyone's "friendly, neighborhood Spiderman."
By removing Uncle Ben (and not even mentioning him or his impact on Peter in any significant way) we have this Original Character that bears Peter's name, but lacks any of the things that actually make him Peter Parker. By completely removing the man that raised Peter and gave him the morals he used in his life as a superhero ("with great power comes great responsibility"), and replacing him with Tony Stark, we have a completely unrecognizable character that they're trying to pass off as a decades-old fan favorite, and a lot of people are observant of that.
The real problem with replacing Uncle Ben with Tony is that we now have a character that bears the name of one of the very few self-made superheroes, but has no actual resemblance to said character or his source material. He's not "one of the people, fighting to protect the working man from the corruption of corporations" and their ilk. No, no, now he fights for those corporations, putting those pesky poor people in jail because how dare they oppose their corporate overlords! That's also why we have things like Tom Holland (who I am 100% positive has never picked up a Spiderman comic in his life) saying that, given a choice between his parents, Uncle Ben, and Tony Stark, Peter would being back Tony.
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Aside from completely misunderstanding the character, it does being up the uncomfortable truth that so many Irondad fans don't want to even look at, and that's what you mentioned about Tony and Peter's toxic relationship.
The very fact that they started this whole "mentor/mentee" relationship with Tony by having him stalk a fourteen-year-old should have been a red flag to some people but too many overlooked it. Then there's the fact that he smuggled said underage child out of the country (without a passport or his guardian's permission), despite that being against the very laws they were fighting to uphold, dragged him into a battle with some of the world's most trained and dangerous warriors, and then just discarded him after he served his purpose. And that's all just one movie!
After that, he ghosted him, continously belittled him, forced him off on someone else while continuing to dangle the prospect of becoming and Avenger in front of him, and even ignoring him when he tried to warn the Avengers about a very real threat. Sure, he did tell and even try to get Peter away from the fight after Ebony Maw attacked Manhatten looking for the Time Stone, but considering he decided to go in to what he thought was going to be the big fight with the mastermind pulling the strings behind-the-scenes all of these years with just him, a teenager, and a wizard he just met was just too much. We all have to remember that they didn't know the Guardians were going to be there on Titan, and considering the fact that Strange could have very easily portaled them back to Earth to regroup with the other Avengers, it makes that plan all the more stupid.
The fact that the actors and even the studio tried to hype up this Irondad bullshit, and that the fandom bought it, is so very displeasing. Here's hoping that the rumors of Toby and Andrew coming back to do a live-action Into The Spiderverse with Holland are just rumors, because I don't think I could handle them destroying the only two live-action Peter Parkers we've had.
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tagged by @cheesedemarco so i might as well do this hjskgjksjfjgk thanks bro šŸ’•
2010
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~2nd grade, 7-8 yrs old
- loved or thought they loved the color pink Wholeheartedly
- cats made Everything better, thought they might be part cat and loved to imagine that they were because they grew up around cats
- i legit don't know how no one thought "hm, something is Off with this one" but no one picked up on them being Different other than the kids smh so i got picked on a bit
- sisters kept asking if they were gay because they had a fixation on katy perry's "i kissed a girl". did not quite know what being gay was.
- put into a gifted program, got confused, never showed up to classes unless the teacher showed up to get them but thinking back was probably supposed to just leave
- like 2 close friends and that was It
- emotionally invested in binging animal planet docuseries'
- wants to be a vet when they grow up
- lots of really Weird ideas that thinking back on now just resulted in spending time alone and thinking or playing alone
- attention seeker :))) didn't receive any :)))))))
- "why are boys and girls treated so differently, i don't understand?? what makes me a girl??"
- polo.... ticks???
- first time cutting their hair "short" (bob cut, just above the shoulders, Loved It and then Hated It, wanted the mako mori haircut despite mako not existing yet)
- first signs of anxiety showed up around this time
2015 (pt. 1)
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6th-7th grade, 12-13 yrs old
- sad emo bitch, honestly
- melodramatic as fuck, i would not be friends with them now if i knew them
- attention seeking at its worst
- anxiety at its worst
- lots of pushing people away and isolating from friends in fear of making things worse for them having to see me emotionally compromised in any way
- lots of having to talk people down because they managed to make friends with probably over half of the school's Depressed Children population and had even more online
- first boyfriend, didn't turn out hjskgjskg peer pressured into a few firsts actually
- loved loved loved black veil brides and h*talia/anime in general, do not come for me and do not ask for details, i will deny ever existing during this time period
- first discovers the lgbtq community
- first makes an instagram account
- first discovers what fandom and fanfics are
- first writes fanfics like a fucking madman, literally could pull three short fics out of their ass every day, edited and everything, but never posted them out of fear of rejection and criticism
- really REALLY wants to be an author but doesn't have any kind of faith in themself or their ability
- makes friends who like their writing and latches onto them for the next Ever (still friends with them now šŸ„°)
- couldn't manage their obsessions with fiction and it negatively affected their life in a few ways
- first girlfriend, still miss her as a friend, but didn't turn out because they still had a lot of Emotions they didn't know how to process
- joins kik and makes a lifelong friend and qpp :))
- finally let themself say fuck. come on bb u can do it just not in front of ur parents ok?
- "i HATE politics that shit is SO ANNOYING and i will NEVER be political Ć¹mĆŗ rawr xd >:((((("
- maybe like two other girlfriends or so, was Really Just Going Thru It, Wanted To Find Themself (and also didn't know how to say no to people in fear of disappointment)
- noticable difficulty keeping track in school compared to before
- miles mckenna
- "wait, you can trans your gender?"
2015 (pt. 2)
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7th grade, 13 yrs old
- still probably wouldn't be friends with them but better than before
- mom upon being asked to let me cut my hair in the "ellen cut": BUT YOU'LL LOOK LIKE A LESBIAN???
- my reaction, still partially in the closet: YES. AND???
- technically out as genderfluid and pan, did nothing to actually insinuate they wanted to shift what pronouns people used for them because "Oh But What A Burden That Would Be On Others :("
- happier with themselves but still Going Thru It because they didn't know how to put their feelings into words yet
- also a constantly fear of being perceived as annoying or a nuisance
- touch aversion appeared out of seemingly nowhere, got worse over the course of the next two years or so
- sleep deprivation Ɨ1000000000
- more school difficulties,,,
2020
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high school senior, nearly 18 yrs old
- successfully transed their gender... mostly. almost 2 years on t. will probably never be out as nonbinary to most family. but at least they have a mullet-in-progress
- been in therapy for somewhere over 2 years, maybe close to 3??
- somewhat learned how to say no and stand up for themself and has removed toxic people from their life successfully :))
- actually has some semblance of confidence!!! you go bitch!!! comfortable in their body after t once they realized their remaining dysphoria was almost strictly social
- emotionally good but physically and mentally running on fumes and fixations
- has come to realize that they probably have undiagnosed adhd and that their therapist needs to get bent because he keeps telling them "no" and then after they talk to him about it he goes "ok maybe..." with no real answer, thanks roger šŸ’•
- overly friendly???? just wants to make people smile and this time knows that if they don't that it's okay because at least they got to smile about it
- fixated HEAVILY on pacific rim and iasip, and torchwood (but mostly just on charlie day and burn gorman BECAUSE of pacific rim hjskgjskjgkahgkg)
- trying to get back into writing fics so hard but things just do no be coming as easily as they once did
- "i type in all lowercase because i FUCKING HATE CAPITALISM"
- probably a maoist idk i'm still Learning new things every day
- manages to actually run a tumblr blog and make friends without having borderline panic attacks??? fun times y'all
- extremely grateful to see how far they've managed to get :)
sorry for uhhhhh putting my life's story on here LMAO anyway. i tag ummmmm anyone who sees this and wants to do it!!! here's the picrew!!! have fun!!!
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fayrelynn-trinity Ā· 6 years
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Overall I remember when we first found out about University Life and how hyped up we all were! We were scared, and nervous but overall everything felt super positive. It was going to be the next step in MCL and everyone was on board.
And then...Beemoov began releasing some information here and there and everyone seemed more and more nervous. New sprites, new characters, new systems. Everything was changing. BUT THEN they only bring back two of the boys Castiel and Nathaniel - one of who which had a total personality shift for reasons still unknown - the majority of the fandom is heartbroken, we lost Armin, Kentin and Lysander who were all amazing characters.
Some of the fandom, myself included, is sad but willing to give the game a chance. A female option is promised how exciting! The characters are released and okay cool enough designs, a girl, a coworker, a teacher, a singer and a bad boy is the basic run down. I still personally tried to remain optimistic throughout everything, but, it was hard.
I started playing the game, the AP system wasnā€™t too bad but I didnā€™t enjoy it for sure. Now the more I play the more issues I find with it.
First and foremost: The AP and $ ratio simply don't apply to the games logic. They have you buying $15 gifts and $5 dollar bus passes as well as $200 outfits all while only giving you $5 every day. Thatā€™s it. With how often episodes are released, itā€™s physically impossible to play an entire episode without spending some real money. Unless you want to wait a few months to play. The same goes for AP, if youā€™re going to change AP from movement to dialogue then you need to give players more AP to begin with that way we have more then just half a monologue per day. (because letā€™s be real, candy suddenly has a lot more to say now that dialogue costs AP)
But okay, lets pretend their logic is totally normal and nothing else was screwy, let's just get to the basis of my anger: the characters.
Holy fucking shit, letā€™s just start right off the bat with Rosayla right now. Back in MCL she was one of my favorite characters, she was happy with whoever you ended up with and supported you, she played match maker but never forced anything. She was assertive and funny and always knew what she wanted, yeah she was stubborn but it was never a bad thing. In the end she always had candyā€™s best interest at heart. Then. we have MCLU Rosa. Sheā€™s self absorbed, pushy, rude, and letā€™s be completely honest, she doesnā€™t give a damn about Candy. Sheā€™s turned into a borderline toxic friend; not letting candy study when she needs to, forcing a boy onto her who she might not like, controlling Candyā€™s movements and overall just being not a great friend. Her biasness towards Nathaniel is what really pushed the whole thing over for me. Iā€™m sorry Iā€™m too tired to give more details but Beemoov has ruined Rosayla as a character and I feel so sad about it
Alexy. Okay I honestly never really liked Alexy, but ever since he and Morgan got together? Ditching candy, leaving her hanging, bringing Morgan everywhere, not understanding that he can do things with his friends without his significant other. The over sexualizing relationship? As much as I wanted Alexy to find love like everyone else, this relationship feels like a cheap fanfiction. Something that was just thrown in there to make the fanbase happy and to overlook every other shitty thing about the game. Not only that, the relationship I personally feel has made Alexy take 10 steps back as a character. He and Rosayla are not the two best friends that candy needs in her life.Ā 
Hyun. Hyun hyun hyun. He started off so cute? Like he was shy and flustered and was a sweet coworker who obviously was into Candy. And then he got pushy, and Rosa got pushy and Alexy got pushy and EVERYONE is forcing candy to be with him. Like the game ruined him before they could even develop him. Heā€™s just, he has such a bad and cringy vibe about him now and I really donā€™t know what the writers were thinking when they made him. The way he treats other romance options and the way he gets jealous and salty if you show interest in someone else. Itā€™s just....gross.Ā 
The characters I feel have been done right though: Castiel, Priya and Amber. I wasnā€™t the biggest Priya fan but I have respect for her, Castiel has grown up and matured and heā€™s just overall nice to be with and Amber I want to fucking date or at least be her best friend.
The game is failing, they continue to do things in their own best interest thatā€™s hurting their fanbase heavily. But you know what? What theyā€™re doing is guaranteed to give them more money from the fans that do stay. Itā€™s guaranteed they will make profit from these cuts. Less AP and $? More people go to the bank. Beemoov knows what theyā€™re doing and thatā€™s the worst part of it all. They took a really unique little Otome game and turned it around to be like every other game out there. They took away their illustration customization (or at least minimized it) each character now fits into a trope without ever leaving it: Bad Boy with a soft side, designated girl, Famous one, boy next door kinda guy:aka the best choice, and the forbidden older one. The writing is clichĆ© and focuses too heavily on the side characters.
While I love the characters and would love to get to know them better I also donā€™t want to waste all of my very limited AP to learn about them to this extent when Iā€™m playing a ROMANCE GAME. Iā€™m here for the romance, and the love and the crushes and everything. This company has singlehandedly taken this beautiful game and ruined it into something they gain profit from.
They should have let MCL die when High School ended, focus on their new games and let this one die peacefully. Doing this has created so much hate within the fandom and so much bitterness. The company is running itself to the ground and yet,, theyā€™ll never crash.
All of these beautiful and wonderful characters that I have had the pleasure of growing up with will now forever and always be tarnished. Throwing away three main characters and bringing back two was the worst choice they could have ever made. You either keep the main 5 or change all 5. Bringing two back is just straight up cruel.
This rant is a little all over the place and it doesnā€™t really have a main focus, but if you ever want to know my feelings on the game @sakurina-mcl explains it, beautifully in all of her posts so go ahead and check out hers. She puts all my thoughts into words better then I ever could
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bluemoonpunch Ā· 6 years
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I wanted to make this post to clear up some things that some of you very passionate taekook and jikook shippers who were upset because one of the asks I responded to made it seem like I was favoring/bashing jikook/taekook ā€” somehow both sides managed to take it badly.
I wanted to apologize to anyone who thought that I was bashing Jimin or trying to portray Jimin and Jungkookā€™s relationship in a bad light. That really wasnā€™t my intention, but I did realize that with the way I answered that post anyone who had not read the Jimin and Jungkook relationship reading, Jiminā€™s Elemental Alignment reading, or any of the group readings it would be difficult, without that context, to catch my point. That was my fault. Honestly, not that many people come onto the blog or find my posts without having already read other readings which is why I tend to answer them as though people already know what I am talking about.
Just to clear things up, I donā€™t hate Jimin and I sure as fuck do not align myself with people that hate him purely because they are ā€œsupportersā€ of an opposing ship, or hate him for any reason at all really. As a grown adult, I am well past that stage in my life where I find jollies or even the slightest bit of use in hating people, especially people I donā€™t know personally. Iā€™m beyond that and I encourage people that peruse my blog to also stay beyond that quite often.
I am not an ā€œanti-jikookā€ shipper or supporter/opposer or whatever. I like all ships. Literally, since the dawn of time (2007) Iā€™ve always been one of those people that liked all the ships in any fandom Iā€™ve been a part of just because Iā€™ve always liked the variations of connections that people seem to pick up on. I am not, however, one of those people that feels the need to show ā€œsupportā€ for potentially closeted romantic couples by starting ship wars, constantly trying to ā€œproveā€ that they are gay, or harassing other people who donā€™t have the same beliefs/opinions about those relationships between those people. Iā€™m just not.
I have said since the very beginning of this blog that any information I find that I consider to be extremely personal, such as relationship status, sexual orientation, details on mental health, family matters and so on I will not include them in the reading or answer any asks about it directly where things cannot remain vague or completely anonymous. The only time I share that information is if it is already public knowledge, which most of the time, it isnā€™t.
For the people who think that I am trying to label Jimin and Jungkookā€™s relationship as toxic, I definitely am not. They have one of the strongest relationships in the group and Iā€™ve said that many times. Where the ā€œtoxicā€ statement came from was the Jikook relationship reading where halfway through it I give an ā€œintermissionā€ to explain that I made a comment while in the midst of the reading saying that their relationship seemed toxic because of how their ENERGY mixed between them. This is that bit from that reading:
ā€œIn terms of dynamic, in the energetic sense, Jungkook does seem more submissive because his energy itself seems very easily manipulated or molded. I donā€™t know if thatā€™s how he is with everyone, or if itā€™s just with Jimin, I think it might be, but I canā€™t be too sure.
ā€œ[INTERMISSION] So, right at this point I had some sort of fucking energetic overload from Kook. What had happened was, I was just edging in a little bit deeper into Kookā€™s side of things because the energy did seem off and I was actually trying to see if there was energy manipulation happening here and I even made the comment in my head that their relationship seemed borderline toxic, and thatā€™s when I got fucking slammed. Literally, everything fucking flipped. It was a huge massive FLIP and I got dizzy, I goosebumps in waves all over, I had that static feeling in my fingers, I couldnā€™t breathe, and then I got this sharp fucking pain in my ear for a split second (that actually happens a lot when I channel for long periods of time, along with migraines), and then my ears were just ringing for two or three minutes.
I had to have me a fucking moment after that shit. Had to do me some breathing exercises, had to look out the window for a bit because FUCK that.
But yeah, Mr. Jeon donā€™t like his personal energy being tapped past the line of projection. That was my bad, sincerest apologies. Like, genuinely, I did cross a line there and I totally deserved to have my fucking brain melted. Not a problem. Lesson learned. Tread lightly around Kook.
But just to clarify for anyone concerned, there is nothing abusive between Jimin and Jungkook. Ā Iā€™m sure none of you thought that, but just in case that was what it seemed like, no need to worry. They just have a very odd balance that doesnā€™t make a lot of sense. It might make sense to them on one of two levels, but itā€™s just a messy picture for an outsider such as myself.ā€
That post is here.
I referenced that bit in the answer to that ask and, like I said, without prior knowledge of this bit in that post it would seem like I was literally saying that they have a toxic relationship. That is not the case at all. Theyā€™re a huge support system for each other and it does go both ways, without a doubt. In that reading I talked about their ā€œlayeredā€ connection ā€” thatā€™s also something to keep in mind.
One of the other things that was taken a bit out of context was when I said that Taehyung and Kookā€™s relationship is very different than Jimin and Kookā€™s relationship. It is, but I didnā€™t mean that in a way where Iā€™m trying to say that one is #REAL and the other is #FAKE. I, again, was talking about their energetic and soul connections. The vibe of those relationships are very different, but they are equal. I talked about it in an ask somewhere about how those two ships are the most prominent because of how the three of them link up with each other energetically. They are equal but different. The dynamic is different.
I really need people to understand that when I talk about people I am usually reading, I am channeling. I am always talking in terms of conscious, subconscious, unconscious, energetic, spirit, and soul connection. I touch on everything, not just the what we get at face-value. That is the point of these readings, it is why I started this blog. I wanted to open peopleā€™s mind to consider a broader view of the people they look up to. I did not start this blog to ā€œvalidateā€ or ā€œinvalidateā€ ships ā€” that is not my business and that is not my job.Ā 
Apparently, as people love to point out to me, there are plenty of blogs out there that will gladly tell you all about the personal lives of the guys down to the shade of red that their asshole is, but I gotta say, people who so willingly give out personal information have no moral code and no ethics that could keep them shoving shit down your throat for some likes and follows. Just saying.
I connect with Guides and energy cores and guess what, Guides (especially BTSā€™s Guides) do not hand out personal information about the souls they guide because it is beneath them to do so. It doesnā€™t matter therefore it is not shared. I, personally, just donā€™t like to do shit that could hurt someone. I really do not go into these readings with the intention of exposing people or trying to paint people in a bad light. I just want people to expand their view past what is shown and past the image that they have painted of the person I am reading. Plus, I just enjoy doing celebrity readings in general.
If you are new, I do encourage you to read through the BTS readings Iā€™ve done as well as read through this to see what weā€™ve done with the BTS Soul Map and Soul Body healing as well.
Again, I am sorry to anyone who did interpret what I said as me hating on Jimin or trying to favor a ship or put a ship down. That was really not my intention, but I do see how it got a bit lost in translation and thatā€™s my fault. I will try to be a bit more careful with how I answer questions and I will try to provide more context (links to posts, excerpts, screen caps) when I answer things from now on.
For those of you that are doing a bit more than sending me asks and PMs with questions or concerns, I ask that you chill the fuck out. This blog has 200 followers and my posts get no more than 20 notes. Iā€™m not a big deal, these readings arenā€™t a big deal, they are simply something I enjoy doing and I make them for people who enjoy reading them and connect to them. I use this blog to fulfill my purpose and to help people grow and expand on their own through personal readings and group energy/meditation work. I will continue to live and breathe, and I will continue to post readings because it is something that I enjoy doing. Perhaps you should also find something you enjoy doing so that youā€™re not online so much getting angry over things that donā€™t affect you in even the slightest way possible. I have plenty of meditation recommendations for you, plus energy cleansing how-toā€™s which I feel like you might need desperately. >.>
If you donā€™t like me, my blog, or my work you do not have to be here. You can block me and you can blacklist my blog and then my posts wonā€™t show up for you at all. Itā€™s as simple as that. Again, I donā€™t think most of the people that read these readings look at them as anything more than entertainment, honestly, so thereā€™s no reason to get all bent out of shape over posts that get 10 - 20 likes from people who donā€™t really pay any mind to whatā€™s being said. Iā€™m aware that a lot of shippers look to some of these posts in hopes of finding validation for their personal perceptions and views but thatā€™s not what youā€™re going to get here.
If you have any more questions or concerns about anything that I didnā€™t touch on please PM me. I would prefer that to sending an ask that way we can have a back and forth conversation in real time and I donā€™t have to unload a bunch of things into my blog and then we can handle one topic at a time and understand each other better as well.
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(part 1) I noticed ur anti supercorp fandom posts and I'm in tears. You take the action of a few assholes and use it to represent our whole fandom. Every fandom has assholes and sadly people in other fandoms only see the assholes. You can hate a ship but hating on real people will NEVER be okay. I am a sc shipper and karolsen shipper a cser. I am anti slave owners replacing a black love interest and not respecting kara. That has nothing to do with ships and it never will.
Iā€™m sorry but you are an idiot. First of all, if you go to the ao3 where I post it clearly says anti FANATIC side of the sc fandom.Ā 
Secondly, itā€™s tagged correctly - as anti crack fic. I didnā€™t even tagged Lena there. Or used ā€œSupercoorpā€ word. So my question is WHY DID YOU READ IT if you obviously knew it was going tp upset you? Sorry, Iā€™m not sorry but I am NOT responsible of your happiness here if donā€™t even know how to protect yourself. Donā€™t like donā€™t read. How hard it is? Did you send anons to people from your fandom who tag their abusive, gross fics as karamel where they kill Mon, make fun of karamel and make it supercoorp fics? :)
Next. Few idiots? Donā€™t make me laugh. You need to block more than 300 blogs that are usually SC to scroll karamel tag without seeing hate. Do you want me to post all shit I gathered so far from your fandom that I found in our pro tags? I have hundreds of screen shots. Hating on real people? Go and say that to people from Sc fandom who attack Chris, Melissa and other cast members constantly on social media, on THEIR official accounts. Also, if you call my ficĀ ā€œhating on real peopleā€ then wow, you have seen nothing, kid.
First you say: ā€œ I am anti slave owners replacing a black love interest ā€œ and then you say:Ā ā€œThat has nothing to do with shipsā€œ :)))))
(part 2) I have NEVER harassed one of the actors. Most of us havenā€™t. The majority of us were disgusted by the people (who were apparently proven to be trolls but idk the whole story there) who harassed Rahul. The lack of queer representation in the media is no joke. When you turn on the tv you see representation it doesnā€™t matter the channel or time. It is so easy for you to find a couple that represents you. For me, I have to search so hard. I have yet to find a canon couple that i relate to
Cool for you. A funny story - I havenā€™t harrassed a soul too. And yeah, you didnā€™t harass but you also did nothing to stop the haters. The biggest anti accounts still are high and mighty, followed by enormous group of people, their posts have hundreds of notes. Proven to be trolls - lol. Do you tell yourself that before sleep? You have your queer representationm in the show, it was called Sanvers and AgentCanary. CANON. But you decided to ignore that for a CRACK ship. Suit yourself.Ā 
(part 3) so I am stuck with relationships that I donā€™t really relate to but at least the genders are right. Supercorp is that ship I really relate to. I relate to Kara so much and Lena is exactly my type. It is that one time where I say hey that is like me. I know it wonā€™t happen and that isnā€™t the problem. Karolsen is also a non-canon ship that people want why wasnā€™t karolsen made fun of? Before you say it is the fandom I urge you to remember that isnā€™t most of us.
ā€¦you canā€™t find a ship you can relate along a lot LGBT ships to, but you relate to a ship made by an ALIEN superhero and a super rich genius? It sounds like you need to have some super high standards to relate to a ship. Itā€™s like, you are a blonde, so you can relate to Kara. It sounds like that. And oh boi, my asexual ass can relate so much to the characters in the tv shows - so many characters. TONS. Not that like every of them always just has to end with a romantic interest *sarcasm* Also, I donā€™t get why you even start to talk about it - ship whatever shit you want and relate to any shit you want - did I say you canā€™t or something?
And wow, you canā€™t relate to a lot of ships, just to that ONE, but you can relate to WHOLE SC fandom, made by different people and whatever. Yay.
Karolsen was canon, what show you watch for godā€™s sake? And Jesus, Karolsen was thrashed in s1 by people. Hello?
(part 4) It left me feeling bad and guilty about who I ship & that the people I look up to hate me. I have something called Borderline Personality Disorder & often think I am worthless & am terrified of abandonment. When the cast said that stuff at SDCC I felt abandoned by people who have never even met me. It made me feel so worthless & awful that these people who I love and support who donā€™t even know who I am hate me. But please, go on about how awful the sc fandom is and deserved it.
And sorry, but you totally MISSED the point of my fic. it is a satire. It points flaws and problems that run in your precious oh so no abusive and toxic fandom. There is not a SINGLE line that says you should feel ashamed of shipping it. All thing I put there were created by your fandom. YOUR fandom created these things. YOUR fandom started putting abusive not karamel fics in karamel tags. I wrote that fic because of abusive assholes from your fandom.Ā 
Iā€™m sorry you have to deal with your problems and health issues but I ask you again - WHY you read stuff that is CLEARLY not for you and WHY you donā€™t protect yourself? You want me to make me feel guilty or something? Sorry, but I donā€™t feel this way, abusive assholes FROM SC FANDOM who told me I should kill myself or sent me gross shit right after my mother died and I was super depressed made my skin thick. But ok, I only have anxiety now, so my problems are not as valid as yours, I guess? Becasue I ship a former slave owner with your precious Kara, huh? Hot damn, life is brutal. Also, I guess people who ship only becasue it makes them happy and they donā€™t have problems in life are not important and their opinions are not valid. Only people who deal with shit can talk and ship. And their ships are valid. LOL
I think you didnā€™t realize, but the cast members donā€™t hate anyone. Itā€™s horrible you felt that way, but they donā€™t hate you. But you, who deal with your mental problems should understand that they were harassed by fanatic shippers for months and have had enough. And they sang a song about two women being friends. Did they say sc sucks? No. Did they say you should not ship them? No. Did they say you suck? No. Think about it. If you feel hurt by my fic, then think about the cast members that had to read gross shit that was post about them and if you really loved them, think about how they felt.
And seriously - I kind of get what you wanted to say, I kind of know what you feel but I donā€™t give a CRAP. Why? Because the amount of shit I see from your fandom makes me want to throw up, makes my anxiety worse, wants me to put bleach into my eyes. I understand that you want to be a part of cute, amazing fandom that is nice and cool and wahtever, but it isnā€™t. Your fandom is a home for some of the worst abusive people I have met on tumblr. And no, not FEW. I guess, I should just ignore the haters, cheer for SC fandom and shut up, huh? Sorry, maybe in a different life.
But seriously, protect yourself, no one is going to do it for you. You mental healthĀ  is more important than reading a dumb crack fic and sending long ass message to a person you donā€™t even know.
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whatmoredoyouwant Ā· 7 years
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I was tagged by @laufire (okay like, not really, but it said whoever wants to do it! lol)
Rules: choose any three fandoms (in random order) and answer the questions, then tag some friends
Fandoms:
The 100
Greyā€™s Anatomy
Lost
The First Character You Loved:
Oh wow. Hard one. Hmm...itā€™s especially hard cause I just rewatched the whole show, so my ā€œfirst impressionsā€ are a little skewed. I donā€™t know if itā€™s more Octavia BlakeĀ or Clarke GriffinĀ tbh. Iā€™m like horribly in love with Eliza Taylor, so thatā€™s a big factor, but Octaviaā€™s character is so dynamic and fun. I loved her from that first, ā€œWeā€™re back, bitches!ā€
This is even harder because the characters have changed so much! I think it would have to be Cristina Yang, even though sheā€™s not in the show anymore. I miss her so much!
100% without a doubt, Charlie Pace. When I watched the show when I was younger, when it was still on TV, I bawled my frigginā€™ eyes out every near-death and then his eventual death. Itā€™s funny because now I donā€™t like him nearly as much.
The Character You Never Expected To Love So Much:
Just based on how she was first introduced, Lexa kom Trikru. We get introduced to this badass warrior Commander, twirling a knife and ordering the deaths of Skaikru for burning her warriors, and she turns out to be the biggest gay softie in the world.
A L E X K A R E V. Holy shit, dude. If you told me that Alex Karev would be one of my favourite characters of all time during the first few seasons, I would have laughed. Heā€™s such an asshole, he doesnā€™t care about anyone, heā€™s all about machismo and sleeping with the ladies. And then all of a sudden he does this 180 and the whole macho tough guy is just an act, and heā€™s just this SWEET SOFT TEDDY BEAR UNDERNEATH.
Itā€™s actually crazy how much of a Sun-Hwa KwonĀ stan I became after rewatching. Sheā€™s just such a fucking badass??? Like, nothing gets her down. And the people that disagree with me that Sun is a Slytherin are just WRONG. Like, the woman learns an entirely different language to get away from her murderous, tyrannical father and arguably abusive husband, and plans to just disappear off into a different country. And then, in the flash forwards, she BUYS OUT HER FATHERā€™S COMPANY? Slytherin. SUCH a Slytherin.
The Character You Relate To The Most:
Hmm...itā€™s hard to relate to characters in a post-apocalyptic setting, to be honest, cause I just donā€™t deal with their issues lol. I feel like I would have to say Clarke Griffin, if only for the fact that sheā€™s a headstrong, stubborn bisexual who tries her best to do the right thing, even if sometimes sheā€™s wrong. Thatā€™s the closest similarity I can draw from the characters.
Hands down, Cristina Yang. The commitment issues, the aversion to having a baby, the total 100% dedication and obsession with her job and working? Oh, please, I AM Cristina Yang.
Letā€™s see, Kateā€™s a runaway, Claireā€™s pregnant, Shannonā€™s a rich kid, Sun is too, I donā€™t know that I can necessarily relate to any of the women. And the men, like, not at all. Everyone seems to have daddy issues and I donā€™t have those lol. I haveĀ ā€œmommy issues.ā€ Does anyone have mom issues? Ooh ooh! Ana Lucia Cortez! Totally had mom issues. Again, thatā€™s really the closest similarity that I can draw from these characters.
The Character Youā€™d Slap:
Ooh man, so many. Thelonious Jaha, for starters. Like, why are you even here anymore? All you do is cause chaos. They should have locked him out of the bunker.
I donā€™t know that Iā€™d necessarily slap him, but I really donā€™t like Richard Webber. He has such anger issues and I feel like he just causes unnecessary tension and drama all the time. And his and Catherine Averyā€™s relationship is so tumultuous and at times, borderline toxic, Iā€™m just sick of seeing the two of them.
Haha, I feel like my first instinct is James Ford aka Sawyer, just because heā€™s an ass most of the time, but I love him too much. So Iā€™m saying John Locke, because holy shit, dude, can you cause any more trouble?? Just like I said with Jaha, ALL YOU CAUSE IS CHAOS.
Three Favourite Characters (In Order Of Preference):
Raven Reyes, Clarke Griffin, and John Murphy.
Cristina Yang, Stephanie Edwards, and April Kepner
Desmond Hume, Juliet Burke, and Sun-Hwa Kwon
A Character You Liked At First But Donā€™t Anymore:
Jasper Jordan. This show did you so dirty, my poor child. They should have made him go up in the rocket into space with the rest of them. Can you imagine, crazy alcoholic Jasper Jordan, basically being forced into rehab and made to face his demons? Anyway, yeah, he just went a little too crazy for me, and then he just became a nuisance.
I canā€™t really think of a character that I liked but donā€™t anymore. If I had to pick someone, maybe Izzy Stevens?Ā I think she got kind of selfish after living through her cancer death, and then she treated Alex really horribly. I was really happy when he told her he deserved more. But like, itā€™s honestly me nitpicking a character. I certainly donā€™t hate Izzy, not even close, I just have to pick SOMEONE.
I already mentioned her, but Ana Lucia CortezĀ was my first girl crush. When I was young, when the show first came out, I was nine years old and didnā€™t have any idea I was bisexual. I was IN LOVE with Ana Lucia, I was so upset when she died. Years later, when I rewatched it, it dawned on me just how much I hated her character, and I was like,Ā ā€œWhy was she my favourite??ā€ And my gay ass was like,Ā ā€œOhhhh, itā€™s cause sheā€™s hot as fuck. Got it.ā€
A Character You Did Not Like At First But Now Do:
They kind of already asked this? But well, I guess itā€™s a little bit different. For this one, Iā€™ll say John Murphy. He was SUCH an ass, and I mean, he still is, but now heā€™s a little more human. And even when you watch him being an ass in the first season, you kind of understand it a little bit more now. Certain things canā€™t be excused, obviously, but at least theyā€™re better explained.
Ooh, wait, another good one! I couldnā€™t STAND Arizona RobbinsĀ when she was introduced. My boss at the time, Ricky, I was talking to him when I first started watching it (when we were in season 12 I think) and he kept asking me to tell him when Iā€™d met Arizona. And when I finally did, I didnā€™t get it at all. I was like,Ā ā€œWhy do you like her? Sheā€™s awful??ā€ And now I LOVE HER SO MUCH.
Benjamin Linus. God, I HATED him when I first watched the show, because obviously, he was theĀ ā€œbig bad guy.ā€ Now...well, heā€™s still a bad guy, but I appreciate his character so much more. Especially in the last few episodes! He really redeems himself.
Three OTPs: (I decided to read this as 3 OTPs for each fandom because I can) (Iā€™m following suit, 3 OTPS per show!)
Oh man. Donā€™t even get me staaaaarted. LinctaviaĀ will forever be like, my most painful OTP. Followed of course, by Clexa. The third one is hard though? Honestly, I just wanted to ship RoanĀ with someone, just cause I found him so effing hot. Any time he was on screen with someone, anyone at all, I went,Ā ā€œI ship it.ā€ But realistically, like a real ship, I guess I would say Memori. Even though Emori is hard for me to like. Iā€™m hoping sheā€™ll be more likeable in season 5.
This is so painful. Mark Sloan/Lexie Grey, again, my most painful OTP and oh GOD, I miss them so much. Alex Karev/Meredith Grey, donā€™t JUDGE ME OKAY? And again, the last one is hard. I think itā€™s a tie between CalzonaĀ and Japril. Calzona really fell apart, and fell apart hard, whereas Japril is still kind of being hinted at? (Even though this awful Maggie/Jackson thing is being pushed now, I canā€™t staaaand this.)Ā 
I was a total Sawyer/KateĀ shipper as opposed to Jack/Kate, and I stand by that. But on that note, Sawyer/JulietĀ is my I WILL GO DOWN WITH THIS SHIP ship. THEY BELONGED TOGETHER. When I was younger, I shipped the hell out of Claire and Charlie but now I kind of hate them together. And now I ship the hell out of Desmond/CharlieĀ lol. Oh, and of course Desmond and Penny, but still, the Desmond/Charlie ship has sailed and I am the captain.
I donā€™t think I really have any friends on this site who would actually do this if I tagged them...so Iā€™m just gonna say anyone who wants to do it should, just tagĀ @sassybrowsreyes in your post!
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Our Problems With Teen Wolf
Note: My friend, @knightedtime, and I made this a while back and I decided to release it because the world should know our feelings XD Or something meaningful like that. So here we go.
I have nothing against the actors. I have nothing against the writers. This are just my complaints. Any hostility will be exploited.
Feel free to add your own if youā€™d like! Just include a line break.
Jackson Whittemore. He came off as a hugeĀ asshole even when they tried to make him sympathetic and I was indifferent to himĀ ā€œdyingā€ temporarily.Ā 
No reasons for Lydia acting shallow, vapid and pretending to be dumb while she was with Jackson. It was never addressed. Never talked about why she did that and everyone just acts like it didnā€™t happen. Okay.
Lydia doesnā€™t seem to have friends. You can claim the Pack are her friends but ??? They donā€™t hang out much. Like hang out like normal people their age. So I think Danny was her only real friend because he showed concern and shit and talked to her outside of mystery problem stuff.Ā 
Theo Raeken being a Peter Hale rip off. Cause thatā€™s what he is. And trusting him about anything is bullshit. He fucked that up. Maybe had he been developed more Iā€™d be more understanding. Nothing against Cody Christian but Theo is just another evil dude with pretty face. At least Peter had some sort of depth.
Stydia last season
Most Stydia fans
Stydia in general
Stydia being shoved down my throat.
Season 5 in general
Kiraā€™s ā€œendingā€. It was bullshit. There was some open ended shit so her story being over was bullshit. BULLSHIT. BULLLLSHIT. and I hope Arden Cho is doing great things after that utter bullshittery.
The loss and lack of Danny. I fucking loved him and he was just gone. Another actor mistreated on this asshole show. Well, I hope Keahu Kahuanui is doing greater things than this.
Last season is about Stiles. At least 6a. Iā€™m sorry but in NOĀ way should the last season of the show being about the sidekick. I donā€™t give a shit what or who he is. STILES SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN THE MAIN GOAL OF 6A.Ā I donā€™t give a shit about what Stiles fans and Stydia fans have to say about it.Ā 
Scott and Stilesā€™ friendship is continuously on a downward spiral. Stiles has always been the dominating personality in the relationship. Check out all of season one if you donā€™t believe me. Scott just recently started coming into his own with being an alpha, a leader. I feel like Stiles doesnā€™t like that. Aside from this, I also feel like Stiles expects certain privileges with being Scottā€™sĀ ā€œbest friendā€ but their relationship has corroded and they canā€™t really beĀ ā€œbest friendsā€ if Scott no longer trusts Stiles. And I donā€™t believe he does, regardless of what Jeff says.
The unrealistic relationships. Stydia. Stalia. Mainly. Because itā€™s kind of relationships that they just kind of pulled out of their asses and were likeĀ ā€œmehā€. Adelaide and Gage left and Stiles just neededĀ someone.Ā 
No explanation for what happened to Derek. Literally. I know that Tyler H. said he wasnā€™t coming back but the showĀ never explained where Derek went. Yet another character that weā€™re suppose to just forget about.
Scottā€™s development from season 3 to season 5. Where is it? I mean, yes, he was kind of an asshole in season 2 when it came to Derek making more werewolves. Then it went stagnant.
The fandom/fanbase. The most vocal (I donā€™t want to say majority) are the Stydia people. The most vocal of the Stydia people seem to be bullying the actors and I AINā€™T ABOUT THAT. Listen up, you little parasites, your show is ending due to you bitching all the time. Had it not been for that, might have gotten some more.
The shipping wars
Layden. Another rushed relationship that I donā€™t have the capacity to care about. Plus theĀ ā€œhomageā€ to Scallison is just -.- exhausting.
Theo Raeken comes back for season 6, erasing the last thing Kira did on the show. Thanks.
Rehashing old relationship. Same as 19, but it really urked me so letā€™s put it up here twice.
Theo Raeken in general
Lydia and Jackson ever being a thing. It was a toxic relationship. They were both kind of hateable. Some people are just too toxic to be together. Maybe had Colton Hayes stayed the could have worked on that, but Colton deserves better so he can go ahead and do what heā€™s doing.
Stydia in General because itā€™s really cliche if you look at it. That whole popular girl gets won over by the nerd/geek is so worn out. Usually, Iā€™m all for an underdog story, but Stiles isnā€™t an underdog. Heā€™s kind of an asshole. He kind of treats everyone like garbage (even Lydia in some instances) and the two of them are usually at odds. Honestly, Stydia happening (to me) isnā€™t out of love, but out of Lydia paying homage to her dead best friend because Allison was the one who told Lydia to give him a chance. Make of that what you will.
Scott moving too quick. I meanā€¦ His relationships go from like 5 to 100 in a matter of episodes. Itā€™s a bit concerning even though heā€™s a sweet boy. It makes me concerned for him.Ā 
WTF HAPPENED TO LAHEY (I know heā€™s with Chris but wtf? No updates on him). Not even mentioned again. He doesnā€™t exist.
The last season being focused on Stiles when they knew beforehand that Dylan Oā€™ Brien was going to be busy and it really should be focusing on the Titular Character given that itā€™s last season. (On here twice cause itā€™s BULLSHIT).
The way that Jeff Davis treats his actors. Iā€™m looking at Dannyā€™s actor and Kiraā€™s.
Peter Hale never got a redemption arc until season 6, but Theo basically got his immediately. Theoā€™s redemption is bullshit at that. Using fear as a redemption tool is never successful. Scared Straight doesnā€™t work for murderers. If it doesnā€™t work for sex offenders, itā€™s not going to work for Theo. Sorry, not sorry.
The fact Peter is probably going to get screwed over again. Wouldnā€™t surprise me.
The fact that Brett and Liam would have been more believable than Layden and Brett and Liam borderline hating each other. Maybe itā€™s chemistry, maybe itā€™s the fact that Layden was so rushed. The world may never know.
Thereā€™s not any main queer relationships. I dare you to name your top three in season 6 without repeating any characters. I fucking dare you.
They bring in a Bi character and heā€™s not used much. *cough*BrettTalbot*cough*
I canā€™t be excited for season 6 because of the past seasons (mainly 5) being at least somewhat disappointing
The fact that they claimed there wasnā€™t room for Kira and yet they casted a bunch of people for season 6 who were new.
Not that I ship it, but They baited Sterek a lot outside of the show for views.
Scott trusts Theo more than he trusts Stiles. So much for best friends, am I right?
Stiles kinda being an ass to Scott after Scott died and expecting Scott to be everywhere at once, resulting in that one gif where Stiles attacked Scott very fucking violently. Scott is a werewolf, not a superhero.
The show focuses more on Stilesā€™ Trauma more than anyone elseā€™s. Scott and Lydia dealing with the loss of Allison, a part of an episode of them crying and the occasional mention. Why did Lydia act dumb? What went on with Scott since he didnā€™t have a dad? How has them being what they are affected them mentally? What about Maliaā€™s trauma? These things are merely touchedĀ upon everyone once in a while. Stilesā€™ trauma is probably enough to write a thesis paper on.
Having no real reason other than Allisonā€™s death for Isaac leaving (even that relationship was WAY too fast and wasnā€™t love based, like, at all)
Allison and Isaacā€™s relationship to begin with. Thereā€™s so much with this relationship that just grates me.
Allison tried to justify torturing people who had nothing to do with her momā€™s death. Like I understand, but that also made it seem like they were going to set her up as a villain in later seasons, which for her not to go that route made it pretty damn disappointing and pissed me off. (Especially when she seemingly expected Derek to be cool with her. Fun Fact: Once you start disliking someone with a passion, everything that person does pisses you off so I canā€™t fault Derek here).
Gerard being alive. Justā€¦ That bitch.
The fact Scott is barely ever ā€œsingleā€ and thus making him pretty fucking unrelateable. In highschool, I only date two people, some of my friends never dated, and some of my friends dated their s.o. freshman year or earlier to senior year. Plus, we never really seen him mourn Allison much so that could be a reason.
Kiraā€™s story arc season 5 because that was weak to the point I barely remember wtf she was doing. Basically, made her character less memorable other beingĀ ā€œthat one girl Scott dated that wasnā€™t Allisonā€
The fact that Allison died at all, when really, they could have just let her actress leave and Itā€™s like if you look at most people who are written off the show, the majority of Females who do DIE.Ā 
Stalia vs. Stydia. Stiles should work on his personality a bit before he should be in a relationship but whatever
Wtf happened to Lydiaā€™s dad?
Wtf happened to Scottā€™s dad?
The show just gets more unrealistic and unrelatable. These kids basically have no breaks in between problems .-. In continuation to this, Iā€™m adding the fact that this shit always happens to these kids and while itā€™s a tv show and everything, itā€™s rly unrealistic that everything happens to them.
Thereā€™s a rumor that Scottā€™s going to kick the bucket for the last season and I donā€™t like it.
Malia getting hate for dating Stiles.Ā 
Lydiaā€™s sudden feelings for Stiles (Fandom would claim differently, but She looks really annoyed when he talks and their ā€œhumorā€ sounds somewhere between ā€œI fucking hate youā€ and demeaning).
Void!Stiles not being addressed much (or the results of that rather).Ā 
Just now delving into more of Lydiaā€™s abilities :l and theyā€™re still pretty fucking shoddy.
Stydia getting so much fanservice. For example, the whole Stiles holding Lydiaā€™s hand when it reasonably should have been Scott, considering theyā€™re closer asĀ ā€œfriendsā€ and he can take away pain.
The Wendigo thing. Justā€¦ What the fuck man. Donā€™t introduce new creatures if you arenā€™t going to delve. Seriously.
How everything always happens in Beacon Hills (I understand the whole Nemeton drawing people there but still :l minus when they went to Mexico which can barely be counted :l)
The fact that the show treated Kiraā€™s departure like a joke with the hashtag, but when it comes to Stilesā€™ Jeep, they take it seriously. You value you a character over a car. Congrats, assholes.
Thereā€™s no actual way that Stydia would work out considering the who ā€œTry being less scaredā€ line Stiles told Lydia while working on his Jeep (which is just one instance. This is NOTĀ banter. This is NOTĀ an old married couple).
Stiles is becoming more of an asshole with the more paranoid he gets which is why he shouldnā€™t be involved with this shit in the first place.
The whole ā€˜Some of us are humanā€™ line. Like sorry, asshole. I like you most of the time, but still. Ā 
Tbh the way Stiles used to treat Lahey. Like, motherfucker he was abused and Stiles doesnā€™t acknowledge that and tells him heĀ ā€œmilkingā€ that. Lahey has trauma, you have mommy issues. Stop valuing your trauma over everyone elseā€™s. Your trauma is pathetic compared to most other peopleā€™s.
The way that the fandom treats Parrish when it comes to Lydia. Ā Sheā€™s 18 guys and not even supposed to be in high school anymore, considering she could graduate early if she wanted. When youā€™re 18 you can date anyone older than you without people blinking an eye.Ā 
Kate ending up being a werejaguar where she was scratched by werewolf Peter Hale. Just the wholeĀ ā€œthe bite effects how you feelā€ or whatever. No. You get bit my a werewolf, you should become a werewolf. Whatever, man. Iā€™m tired of applying logic to this showā€¦
JD disregards his actors feelings
Fandom being Hypocrites when it comes to Posey doing something wrong, when Dylan Oā€™Brienā€™s done some bad shit too. LEAVE POSEY ALONE.
We didnā€™t get a funeral for Allison. (But we got one for Crazy Kate -.-)
The show is more about ships than anything else. What is a story line?
The fact Allisonā€™s mom was a bitch and Allisonā€™s ā€œhallucinationsā€ show her as a bitch but she went off the deep end because of her bitchy mom was dead.
They promote Stiles so much that most people think heā€™s the lead main character. Before I started watching this show, I seriously thought Stiles was the main character. Imagine my surprise when Scott was the werewolf.
All their female characters are kind of shit :l or in the process of going to shitā€¦ Or theyā€™re dead... Or gone. My feelings for Malia fluctuate, they reduced Lydia to a crying, moping mess who was willing to risk Scottā€™s life for Stiles Stfuckboylinski, Erica is dead, Cora is/was female Derek, Allison is dead, Kira will be remembered asĀ ā€œKitsune girl who dated Scottā€ because their lack of using her, Haydenā€¦ waitā€¦ who is Hayden again?, Letā€™s not touch Krazy Kate, whoā€™s Braedan again? Wait, where did Marin go? Oh, fuck!
Canā€™t say much for their male characters either at this point.
The fact that they kinda ended Kiraā€™s story with a cliffhanger.Ā 
How Lydia was cool with Peter and went to him for help after the whole possession and ā€œyouā€ thing that happened.Ā ā€œYeah, I know that you were like haunting me or whatever and literally made me feel like I was losing my mind which you never really tried to make up for, but I totally and completely trust youā€
Why the fuck was it necessary to kill Erica? Is that the only way this show knows how to get rid of characters?
The fact that they probably brought theo back to make Matheo a thing. He fucking shot her. If I was Malia, Iā€™d sooner rip his head off.
People defending Stydia with ā€œItā€™s only fanservice if you donā€™t agree with itā€. No, itā€™s fanservice because you bitched for it and the writers want to pacify you and hope you shut up.Ā ā€œThe Stydia moments every season is only a thing if you ship itā€. Nope, itā€™s fanservice. Holland Roden even admitted that season 6a was fanservice. (I say all of 6a because it was Stiles centered and seemed more like fan fiction than an actual tv show).
For how old everyone was, Iā€™m kind of shocked that Allison and Lydia were still friends after Lydia made out with Scottā€¦ Unless she never found out about that? I donā€™t know man.
Allison neglecting her and Lydiaā€™s friendship and only paying attention to get help from her resulting in what happened with Peter, but no one addresses that. Which, to me, makes Allison not the best bestie.
People sending Malia and Parrishā€™s actors death threats over Stydia. Are you guys serious? This is why the show is garbage and this is why itā€™s ending and views are dropping. Kudos to Shelley Hennig and Ryan Kelley for putting up with that shit.
The fact that none of the female cast have storylines that are front and center. They all seem to be in the background more than anything. The women of this show are more like props (excluding Allison and Melissa).
Stydia fanbase freaking out over anything bad that happens to Dylan or Holland. Iā€™m pretty sure that whole freak out of her getting pushed is enough to explain my feelings towards this.
Then antiStydia people making hashtags telling Holland to kill herself :l Thatā€™s not fair guys. Itā€™s not Hollandā€™s fault thereā€™s a bunch of oversized babies shoving their ship down your throat.
The actors getting anyĀ kind of threats over a FUCKING FICTITIOUS TV SHOW! ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?! ARE YOU SERIOUS?! YOUā€™RE DOING THIS TO A REAL PERSON OVER A FAKE FUCKING TV SHOW. YOU PEOPLE NEED TO BE ON SO MANY FUCKING DRUGS TO THINK THATā€™S AT ALL ACCEPTABLE. A FAKE RELATIONSHIP SHOULDNā€™T BE THE CENTER OF YOUR LIVES. JESUS FUCKING CHRIST LEAVE THIS POOR PEOPLE ALONE YOU DEMENTED ASSHOLES. GO TO YOU FUCKING FAN FICTION AND JUST FUCKING STOP. JUST FUCKING STOP PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD STOP.
JD giving the stydia fandom what they want when they donā€™t deserve it and theyā€™re just a bunch of a brats.
The fandom shipping the actors together when they are real people with lives. This is just a general pet peeve of mind. Stop shipping living, breathing functional peopleĀ unless youā€™re shipping them with their significant other. Donā€™t get caught up in other peopleā€™s life and start living yours.
The fact that apparently JD hinted Stiles was Bi and never did anything with it? :l Heā€™s the straightestĀ person ever. Seriously, I have never seen anyone straighter than Stiles Stilinski.Ā 
The Panic Attack kiss .-. I donā€™t wanna say it was OOC but it was a lot less Lydia like than everything else and the begin of Lydia acting less like herself like people do when theyā€™re in an abusive relationship! (That was also the kind of panic attack that requires space too.)(Yeah -.- but oooo stydia)
The fact that the fandom was anti Malia (partially because she punched him once) but was totally cool shipping Sterek despite the fact that Derek p much assaults Stiles whenever Stiles steps out of line
Stiles also kinda treats Derek badly and Really? I donā€™t see why anyone would consider them to be ā€˜Friendsā€™.
Lacrosse is somehow popular. Ā Donā€™t know how, but Beacon Hills seems about the same size as Fresno is and really? I donā€™t know how lacrosse got so popular when beacon hills has a football team and thatā€™s the so called american sport.
Fandom is woo girl power one minute, then bitching about Malia and Kira (Lydia less than those two) as individual parts.
The fact that everyoneā€™s character development is all over the place, basically all the time
Basically all the female characters getting slut shamed
People thinking that Stiles deserves Lydia, like sheā€™s some sort of prize to be won. Lydia is a fucking person. Fucking chauvinists.Ā 
Tbh the people who get the least amount of hate are more abusive? (examples?)(Jackson, Derek (though Derekā€™s ā€œhateā€ is more the fandom sexualizing him?)) (Iā€™ve seen them call Scott abusive and Iā€™m like okay HOW.)
Ima just say this now, which prob ties to a lot of the actor stuff earlier, but the way the fandom treats Tyler Posey specifically likeā€¦ I really justā€¦ :l (Itā€™s frankly disgusting how they treat him.)(It really is :c) So much love in my heart for that boy. I just want to fucking hug him and make him feel better.Ā 
The fact that theyā€™re putting Parrish in a Freezer during season 6 when he could help.
Ik that Lydia wouldnā€™t do this because Lydia and Allison were ā€œbest friendsā€ but tbh Lydia has more romantic and even more friendship chemistry with Scott than she does with Stiles (Yeah. I noticed that.)
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