#The Infinity Doctors
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#doctor who#8th doctor#eighth doctor#the infinity doctors#infinity doctor#edas#eighth doctor adventures#griffin mcelroy#mbmbam#my brother my brother and me
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the infinity doctors (novel: 1998)
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just finished reading the Infinity Doctors and i'm now going to make it everybody else's problem, so welcome to what is probably going to be the opposite of a concise review by someone who knows utterly fuck all about any of the 90s books, yeehaw (spoilers)
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so in all honestly i literally only read this because it's the only other time that i'm aware of that Patience appears and after reading Cold Fusion i wanted to find out more about her. imagine my feelings when i find out that this entire book is set in a different universe :D
for real though it took me a good while to figure out wtf was going on. i didn't know if it was pre-Hartnell or a Doctor from the future or what but i think it's the latter because there's one line about how he doesn't wear a velvet coat anymore, implying he's after Eight and i know it was written wayy before Nine was cast but his description fits Eccleston's so well which to me points to him being yet another alternate Ninth Doctor so ig Nine just gets to vibe on Gallifrey in this timeline instead of facing The Horrors(tm)
speaking of timeline stuff it kinda just felt like a compressed version of the Doctor's life from the main universe. he remembers Patience here so clearly married her as Hartnell rather than before. Hedin's around so i figure he just didn't die, which makes sense if the Omega shennanigans in the Three Doctors and Arc of Infinity also didn't happen which i have to assume is the case judging by the entire plot of the book. there were also references to something that'll off the Time Lords later on which tracks with the Time War but again this was pre revival so i'm guessing it's some Faction Paradox stuff since that was also referenced. it follows the concept that the Doctor's half Human and his parents are Penelope and Ulysses which is not something i'm a fan of normally but knowing this is an alternate universe i think it has potential. he called the TARDIS a family heirloom at one point which is bizarre but in that context somewhat works
and the Magistrate is the Master right? surely that's gotta be a unanimous opinion, right?? i loved him though, probably my fav character in the book. exactly what you'd expect a Gallifrey-bound incarnation of the Master to be like. i was sad when he was killed/vanished/whatever, i wish there was some sort of follow up on that or even just a reaction from the other characters at all. there was one line though where Larna notes that it's obvious that he's in love with the Doctor and vice versa and that made my thoschei shipping brain squee with delight.
loved Larna too! we all had that one hot teacher she's just the only one lucky enough to actually snog them. i loved her dynamic with the Doctor and the Magistrate and i like to think she exists in the main universe, probably re-engineering Gallifrey's staircases and turning down constant offers to join the High Council
i would like to have strong words with Lance Parkin regarding his repeated de-shoeing of female characters though and of the random mentions of curves and figure that never occurs with male characters. i wouldn't mind the emphasis as much if the same had been done for the male characters, and it's not like there wasn't opportunity for it however in the scenes where the Doctor is naked briefly or the Magistrate is wearing tight fitting clothing not once is it given the same depth of description as the scenes with Patience or Larna. the introduction of systemic sexism on Gallifrey was also so incredibly unnecessary and i have no clue why anyone would feel the need to specify that "of the thousands of Time Lords on Gallifrey only around a dozen were female" like huh???
speaking of Gallifrey i did enjoy (for the most part) the depiciton of Time Lord day to day. i'm not fond of the distinction between Gallifreyans and Time Lords, in my mind all Gallifreyans are Time Lords some just don't live in the Citadel, but the stuff about Infinity Chambers, the way they decorate their rooms, the random tech like Z-Caps and Force Knives, the obsession with protocol and proceedure, it's all gorgeous. the use of TARDIS/Time Lord dynamics was stunning (there's a soft moment between the Doctor and the TARDIS at the end and i love it), also the use of different pronouns for different TARDISes was a welcome treat
onto Patience though, the reason i read the book. it referenced her fate from Cold Fusion but because of the everything about this book i assume it's a different version of Patience which honestly i'm glad about because i'm not sure how i feel about the idea of the Doctor marrying the woman who was at his birth and proceeded to raise him. also don't like her being Omega's wife, that's really weird??? i enjoy the idea that she's older than she initially appeared in Cold Fusion though, past regenerations for her would be cool but i doubt she stretches back as far as the Doctor does in the main universe. it was so fun to see her again though albeit a different her
on the whole i'd say a very good book but with enough iffy bits that i wouldn't rate it too high. bit of a slow burn but in a good way! i love Sontarans and i didn't know going in that they were there so that was incredibly welcome. i really like the Infinity Doctor and i wouldn't say no to more content with him, even just an unbound comic strip or something because i really like this take on the character
#the infinity doctors#doctor who eu#patience#the infinity doctor#doctor who books#the eighth doctor#the ninth doctor#the first doctor#larna#gallifrey
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The story of Tegorak
In one mysterious passage of Lance Parkin’s The Infinity Doctors, two members of the Chancellory Guard visit a long-forgotten room called Archive Chamber 403:
The room, like many in this part of the Capitol, was filled with dusty display cases and ancient lacquered cabinets. Raimor knew that this was part of the Citadel that dated back to the time of Rassilon. It was still possible to see that from the angle of the roof, the quality of the masonry, the shape of the room. The brickwork and panelling along one wall was recent, a partition perhaps only ten millennia old, but it couldn’t hide the room’s heritage: in former times this had been an open balcony which had overlooked the old starharbour. Since then this room must have been a hundred things, from the office of a high‐ranking Ordinal to student lodgings. Nowadays no one ever came here, except the patrol. […] One comer was dominated by a vast suit of armour. A rusty plaque informed anyone who read it that it had once belonged to Tegorak, although the name meant nothing to Captain Raimor.
The name “Tegorak” means nothing to the book’s readers, either – unless those readers are lucky enough to be familiar with an obscure fanzine called Apocrypha. We’ve joked about the idea of Doctor Who apocrypha, but this is the real deal: Adrian Middleton never wrote an official story, but his work in Apocrypha from 1993 to 1995 impacted some of the Wilderness era’s most influential authors, leaving his subtle mark on everything from Big Finish’s Gallifrey to – of course – Faction Paradox.
Copies of Apocrypha were shared with me by a generous friend who was researching some of these references, and as I make my way through the issues, I’ll be posting about all of the various ways they influenced later stories at my #Doctor Who Apocrypha tag. But for today, our topic is Tegorak.
Below the cut you can discover Tegorak’s full story, posted online for the first time. Travel with me to millions of years back in time, just 50,000 years after Morbius’ rebellion, 160,000 years before the birth of the Doctor…
Relevant entries from Apocrypha
THE INVASIONS -12,188,000/-12,150,250 (112,000/149,750 Q)
After thousands of years separated from the rest of the galaxy, the Time Lords found that, for each culture that died, more new ones would arise. With the expansion of so many civilisations, Time Lord secrecy could not be enforced. A string of increasingly dangerous attacks upon Gallifrey were launched by successive cultures, all of whom knew of the legend of the Time Lords.
BLACK MOUNTAIN -12,150,250 (149,750 Q)
As invasions against Gallifrey became more frequent and, potentially, more dangerous, a young Arcalian Cardinal named Tegorak rose to prominence.
Tegorak (whose name meant “Black Mountain”) called for a positive means of defending Gallifrey. In the midst of a particularly nasty invasion by a race known as the Sybarils, the old President was killed, naming Tegorak as his successor. Thus, at 330, Tegorak became the youngest President ever. Taking up a sword and donning the battle armour of an ancient Gallifreyan Warlord, he was forced to carry the battle to the steps of the Citadel itself. The last of the Sybaril invaders [pictured below – ed.] fell as an emergency meeting of the High Council was called.
THE GREAT CRUSADE -12,150,204 (149,796 Q)
President Tegorak decreed that the preservation of Gallifreyan society could only be achieved by setting up a line of defence surrounding Kasterborus. To do this, all planets within the constellation would need to be controlled by the Time Lords. Recruiting a small army from the normal Gallifreyan populace, he took his fleet to the worlds neighbouring Gallifrey. There he recruited a vast mercenary army, establishing a number of defensive outposts.
Resentful of the new President’s policies, some worlds in Kasterborus moved against the Time Lords, having to be dealt with in what was described as a ‘necessarily bloody manner’.
THE BETRAYAL -12,150,200 (149,800 Q)
While Tegorak was away the Matrix Lords made contact with Chancellor Garlan, ruler of Gallifrey in the President’s absence. Projecting images of a bloody future in which Time Lord society would be supplanted by the mercenary followers of Tegorak (who would go on to form a vast cosmic empire), the Matrix Lords convinced him that Tegorak would have to die.
Garlan dispatched an assassin to kill the President. The attempt failed, and Tegorak returned to discuss the attempt on his life with his fellow Time Lords. In the mean time, Garlan had convinced the remainder of the High Council of the threat that Tegorak now posed. So, when the President arrived to address the Panopticon, he was shot down by his fellow Time Lords.
THE ESCAPE -12,150,200 (149,800 Q)
Avoiding death by use of the Presidential Time Ring, Tegorak returned to his TARDIS where he was forced to regenerate. Fearing his bloody revenge (he was easily capable of destroying Gallifrey), Garlan turned to the Matrix Lords for guidance. Rassilon himself intervened, and laid a trap for Tegorak, preventing him from taking any action against Gallifrey.
WHERE DO ‘BLACK MOUNTAIN’ AND ‘THE GREAT CRUSADE’ COME FROM?
Essentially, these are creations of my own, taken from a storyline that I have. Basically, Rassilon cannot, in Gallifrey’s 12 Million year history, be the only hero of Time Lord society. Black Mountain is the Gallifreyan equivalent of Alexander the Great, carving out a space empire to guarantee the safety of his own people. He is Julius Caesar, Charlemagne and King Arthur, an allegorical character who did nothing but good for his people, and who was repaid with betrayal by his closest friends.
Commentary
With the exception of my editorial comment (marked in brackets with “– ed.”), the quotes above come from Apocrypha issue 2 pages 4, 5, and 29. Regarding the dates next to each event, I’ll share Middleton’s original explanation in a future post, but the short version is that “-12,150,200” means 12,150,200 BC, and “Q” refers to years after Rassilon’s founding of Time Lord society.
Besides the namedrop of Tegorak in The Infinity Doctors, I don’t think the “Black Mountain” has been mentioned in any other official Doctor Who sources – although please tell me if I’m missing something!
But that doesn’t mean it hasn’t had any impact. Just one page before Apocrypha introduces Tegorak, it summarizes the story of another outsider Lord President who was exiled and then gathered a mercenary army to attack Gallifrey: Morbius, from the Classic serial The Brain of Morbius. It’s hard not to notice the parallels – and I think there are clear signs that the Tegorak story influenced later depictions of the Morbius Presidency.
The full discussion of that will have to wait for a future installment, though. There are more Apocrypha puzzle pieces to collect first!
#Doctor Who Apocrypha#for archiving purposes#no copyright infringement requested#will remove upon request#effortpost#the infinity doctors#lance parkin#gallifrey#time lords#morbius#the imperator#archival
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Intervention Earth and the Infinity Doctors, one story from different perspectives.
When I first listened to Intervention Earth a few years back I noticed something odd. I felt that their where significant similarities between the two stories. I will now list those similarities.
They both centre on future incarcerations of the series’s respective main Characters (or potential future in the case of Infinity) who only act as there main incarceration in that story with several camps both before and after.
Omega is the main villain in both.
He (or a permutation of) is referred to as Ohm.
At the end what happens to him is never resolved
Both lead towards a similar War which is distinct from the Last Great Time War
The Stories which tie of these respective war arcs (the Ancestor Cell and Enemy Lines) both see the War erased.
To me this suggests that both stories lead into the War in Heaven and thus The Ancestor Cell and Enemy lines also fulfil the same narrative point much like infinite does with intervention.
Honestly I find this rather fascinating.
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Lowtown?!
#I hate how happy seeing this made me#i think this is it's first proper reference or appearance since TID / the EDAs right?#other than the lower len in Celestial Intervention and the possible reference in Hell Bent#Gallifrey#Gallifrey: War Room#Doctor Who#The Infinity Doctors#Eighth Doctor Adventures#wild choice to put Narvin basically in Nine's outfit too
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C/o a conversation with @epicmurderlizards. The Doctor making very important decisions in ‘The Infinity Doctors’.
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no matter the struggles there is always ao3 in bed
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#doctor who#tennant doctor#tenth doctor#donna noble#crying and nodding to myself oh my god they ARE bound together for infinity like the stars :')
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#memes#marvel#marvel memes#mcu#avengers infinity war#infinity war#avengers 3#spiderman#peter parker#iron man#tony stark#doctor strange#stephen strange
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Peter: I collect parental figures like they're pokemon cards
Stephen: How's that working out for you
Peter: ...I also collect parental issues
Stephen *facepalms*: You're an embarrassment
Peter: Hey! Don't make me look up to you and value your care
Stephen: ...
Stephen: Did you just threaten me with your love?
Peter: Yep. It's as deadly as a serial killer
Stephen:
Peter: It's actually caused a lot of attachment issues for me
#dr strange#peter parker#marvel mcu#stephen strange#incorrect marvel quotes#marvel incorrect quotes#incorrect peter parker#incorrect mcu quotes#incorrect spider man quotes#spider man#spider man no way home#avengers infinity war#irondad and spiderson#doctor strange#mcu#marvel
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Avengers: Age of Ultron (2015) dir. Joss Whedon Avengers: Infinity War (2018) dir. The Russo Brothers Avengers: Endgame (2019) dir. The Russo Brothers WandaVision (2021) dir. Matt Shakman Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness (2021) dir. Sam Raimi
#avengers: age of ultron#avengers: endgame#doctor strange in the multiverse of madness#avengers: infinity war#marveledit#eolsenedit#elizabeth olsen#wandanet#wandavision#wanda maximoff#wandamaximoffedit#mine#tuserlyn#tuserhan#tusertyler#userashe#userrlaura#nessa007#userlaro#userjulia#usermelanie#userholtz#userchelsea#mcuchallenge#userparallels#filmtvcentral
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“You’re looking smart,” the Doctor observed as the Magistrate took his place alongside him. “Black suits you.” Underneath his cloak was a collarless tunic. The Magistrate brushed some dust from it. “What are you going to wear?” “This,” the Doctor said, flicking his old college scarf over his shoulder. “Don’t you think?” The Magistrate raised an eyebrow. “Not very formal. Scruffy, in fact.”
#ainley!master#fourth doctor#gomez!master#missy#twelfth doctor#doctor x master#dw#dwedit#*#(from 'the infinity doctors')#i ADORE the master fixing the doctor's appearance 🥰
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Elizabeth Olsen as Wanda Maximoff My favorite looks through all the shows.
#marvel#avengers#marveledit#mcuedit#wandamaximoffedit#scarletwitchedit#wanda maximoff#scarlet witch#elizabeth olsen#avengers: age of ultron#captain america: the winter soldier#captain america: civil war#avengers: infinity war#avengers: endgame#wandavision#doctor strange in the multiverse of madness#marvel movies#marvel cinematic universe#mcu#199999#avengerscompoundedit#beanie wanda is my favorite
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So stretcht out huge in length the Arch-fiend lay Chain'd on the burning Lake, nor ever thence Had ris'n or heav'd his head, but that the will And high permission of all-ruling Heaven Left him at large to his own dark designs, That with reiterated crimes he might Heap on himself damnation…
— Paradise Lost (1674), John Milton
It would be nothing compared to the madness of a Time Lord. When his mind went it would unleash a storm across the surface of his brain. The Dark Design, the Time Lords called it, and went out of their way to hide the sufferers in institutions. The Doctor had known many insane Time Lords in his time, but no mad ones. Pretenders rather than kings.
How will I feel, when I am lost in the Dark Design? What will I think? No. He didn’t want to think about this. These were cold futures.
— Falls the Shadow (1994), Daniel O’Mahony
OMEGA: You dare threaten to destroy me? You wish to fight the will of Omega? DOCTOR: Yes, if I must. OMEGA: Then you shall, but you will fight the dark side of my mind.
— The Three Doctors (1973)
MASTER: There is some evil in all of us, Doctor, even you. The Valeyard is an amalgamation of the darker sides of your nature, somewhere between your twelfth and final incarnation. And I may say, you do not improve with age.
— The Trial of a Time Lord (1986)
DOCTOR: Sorry, wasn't it obvious? The Dream Lord was me. Psychic pollen. It's a mind parasite. It feeds on everything dark in you, gives it a voice, turns it against you.
— Amy’s Choice (2010)
Time Lords felt time flow through them, but more than that, they helped to shape and refine time and space around them. […] Their victories in the Time Wars fought in the generations after Rassilon had helped to stabilise the cosmos, they had laid down the foundations of the modern, rationalistic universe. Would a mad Time Lord have the opposite effect? Would his insanity become contagious, affecting the past and the future like a virus?
— The Infinity Doctors (1998), Lance Parkin
He might be enduring some punishment. A life sentence. […] But, if anyone had passed judgment, it would have been him.
What had most probably happened was that he’d gone mad. Not merely insane. Mad. Tumbled down into mental spaces a human being couldn’t even imagine, turning corners only a Time Lord could turn. Goodness knew what he might have done. Leaving him alone in some quiet corner of the universe would have been the only safe thing to do.
‘Heaven left him at large to his own Dark Design,’ he whispered, ‘that with reiterated crimes he might heap on himself damnation.’
Absolutely nothing he did now would matter. It would take him a lot of years to die.
— SLEEPY (1996), Kate Orman
#doctor who#dark design#the valeyard#dream lord#amy's choice#kate orman#lance parkin#daniel o'mahony#the infinity doctors#trial of a time lord#time lords#archival
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✦ GIFTOBER 2024 (+ @mcuchallenge)| Day 09/31: NUMBERS [insp]
"I went forward in time to view alternate futures. To see all the possible outcomes of the coming conflict."
#giftober2024#doctor strange#doctorstrangeedit#benedict cumberbatch#marveledit#marvel#mcuedit#mcuchallengefilled#marveladdicts#dailymarvel#userelysia#useraurore#userliliana#userjessie#captainsamerica#tuserlyn#dailymarvelstudios#dailymarvelgifs#userdiana#cinemapix#userstream#moviedit#filmedit#filmgifs#moviegifs#usergif#avengers infinity war#avengers endgame#elegifs#not quite satisfied with how this set turned out but well...
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