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hi sorry feel free to ignore this, do you know if there are any fics out there that focus on ray's memory?? idk if he has an eidetic memory or just lacks infantile amnesia, but either way would be cool if there was a fic about it somewhere out there
You could make a case for him having eidetic memory with instances like these:
(Chapter 100 | Chapter 102)
But Shirai never confirmed it one way or the other, so one is free to take it as far as they want with their headcanons.
As for fanfics, do you mean where the narrative is shaped around his memory as the focal point or as a substantial part of the backdrop that informs his character?
I can't recall anything that would fall into the former, but for the latter I think of SuddenWhispers' Tethered

and @hylialeia's hoping you're someone i used to know.
Repeating myself from this post where I recommended them before, but it's always a treat when you find fics like these. Delivered in gorgeous lyrical cadence, such loving attention is paid to sentence composition that the words aren't merely a means to an end, but a reflection of a deep appreciation for both these characters and the craft itself, the weight of them meant to be lingered over and savored. Among my gold standard for TPN fanfic, and canon in my heart. <3
[Other FSS fanfic recs found here, here, here, here, and here]
#me when people apologize for asking me about TPN when I run a blog dedicated to TPN slkfjs#love talking about my favorite bby shounen series even if I don't always have a substantial answer#if you already took a peek through my TPN fanfic tag then sorry for the repetition#FSS Asks#FSS Chatter#The Promised Neverland#Yakusoku no Neverland#TPN#TPN Ray#Ray TPN#YnN#YnN Ray#Cuvitidala Arc#TPN 100#TPN 102#TPN Fanfic#SuddenWhispers#𝑇𝑒𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑟𝑒𝑑#hylialeia#ℎ𝑜𝑝𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑦𝑜𝑢'𝑟𝑒 𝑠𝑜𝑚𝑒𝑜𝑛𝑒 𝑖 𝑢𝑠𝑒𝑑 𝑡𝑜 𝑘𝑛𝑜𝑤#Eidetic vs photographic differences for pedantry etc. but for our lighthearted purposes
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Reading these popularity polls and feeling like I'm going lowkey insane


(WSJ Chapter 102 Popularity Poll, released September 7, 2018)
(Official Anime Site's 4th Anniversary Popularity Poll, conducted in August 2020)
(VIZ February 2021 Popularity Poll)
Anna being more popular in fanon that Don illustrates the phenomon of a fandom being willing to do one of their least favorite things (appreciate a female character) in order to avoid doing another one of their least favorite things (appreciate a character of color)
#Eurocentric beauty standards and cishet ship brainrot is a hellavu drug combo#Ch102 poll is especially crazy because her big moment in the spotlight in Ch116-117#where she goes to help get the medicine for Chris didn't happen yet where you can maybe justify it as something else#but like. You're delusional if you don't think a significant portion of that popularity comes from her being#a conventionally cute‚ blonde-haired‚ blue-eyed white girl with how much more consistently involved Don (and Gilda) are in the story#Phil outranking so many characters in relation to his role is also a thing#but he did have that major defining character moment where he took on the burden of the secret at the tender age of 4#during one of the greatest emotional climaxes of the series that even people who say the series fell off remember fondly#and that poll coming out two chapters after he showed up again in the story during Ch100#on top of being a cute bby#so while he isn't ranked as my 4th favorite character it's way more understandable to me than Anna's placement#also something something using this as a way to neutralize Ray as a “threat” to NE#by pairing him off with the conventionally cute blonde girl when he's had more consistent interactions with Don and Gilda#my personal red flag for a ship line-up if only because it's frequently done in the most bland comphet way possible#with RA and GD being used primarily to prop up NE as opposed to more genuine interest in the ships on their own#TPN References#TPN Polls#Fandom Salt#TPN Salt#Fandom Wank#TPN Cast#Grace Field Kids#Anna#Don#TPN S1#Cuvitidala Arc#TPN 102#Seven Walls Arc#TPN 131
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Take all the time you need hun! I don’t wanna make you feel rushed or anything, life is always busy 💞💞💞
What song are you fixated on at the moment? What lyric or verse, and why?
Both Over & Over by Rio Romeo and Again&Again by The Bird and the Bee, those two songs have been stuck in my head recently, it fits this fear I have in my mind that I’m never truly growing or I’m never actually gonna leave where I am, that I’ll always fall victim to habit and paranoia 💃🏽 also I just ADORE my meloncholy depressing songs lol but that’s not very heehee haha of me soooo Spider Web by Melanie Martinez bc it has the sound of a Coqui in it (I’m Puerto Rican) or River is a Vampire by Bear Ghost and Dan ET bc it’s just the vampiric version of that one meme “How you do my fellow kids” and it kills me
• What is your Enneagram type?
I think I’m a type 4? but I do know I’m an ENFP!
• Do you love gargantuan Youtube video essays, and if so, which is your favorite and why?
God I haven’t watched a video essay in AGES but I used to love them, but idk what gargantuan is </3 but I typically like video essays about internet history or crime cases, or of shows I enjoy (like MLP)
• Tell me about your childhood imaginary friend.
SHE WAS A CHEETAH WHO WAS ALWAYS THERE FOR ME NO MATTER WHAT!!! I would pet her, talk to her, and she’d keep me company when everyone would isolate me/avoid me bc I was ‘too weird’. She was just a big ass cat that would keep me company and run by the cars side to make sure I and my family was safe. She protected me 💞 (thank you for making me remember her 🥹)
• What is your go-to way to fall asleep?
Getting on call with my partner, I’m rather clingy and just wanna spend time with them even if it’s just silence or sleepy rambling, it also keeps me from doom scrolling. If not on call with them I’ll put on RSlash or Gavin’s/Davids sleep aid and hope that knocks me out (and if not that a ba LMFAO-) also if I have Lavender, I put it under/rub it all over my pillow and plushies
• If you had to change your name, what would it be, and why? (In tandem, if you have changed your name, why did you pick that one?)
Im genderfluid/gendervoid so I’ve tried many names, I do like my birth name, it means Loyal Protector/Pledge, so I wanted to find names that mean loyalty or music related names, but one name I’ve been using recently is Quincy, it feels nice sometimes, my partner suggested it to me.
• What is your favorite of Redacted's audios, and why?
Sam’s cuddles and confessions, it’s nice and comforting. That or Cataclysm in general, I fucking LOVE Cataclysm, I love relistening to it. Also any audio that involves Caelum I love that boy dearly
• What Redacted boy holds no appeal to you, and why? Like, not the one you hate but the one who you don't get the hype for. (I won't judge, I promise.)
Aaron and Vincent. Despite me being a huge vampire lover, Vincent just did not catch my attention at all, Aaron just doesn’t peak my fancy aside from one of his BA’s. Also same thing for Porter, he kinda bores me 😔
• Tell me about that one book/movie/tv show you know all the words to.
When I was a little kid, it was the live action 102 Dalmatians, I KNEW THAT MOVIE LIKE THE BACK OF MY HAND!!! I FUCKING LOVED WATCHING CRUELLA BEING BAKED INTO A CAKE BY ALL THOSE DOGS. Also Oddball my beloved 💞💞💞 the sweet baby puppy, I just understood the pup for feeling like and odd one out as a grew up, I haven’t seen the movie in years now but it still holds such a special place in my heart. Now as an adult my two favorite shows are The Promised Neverland(only season 1, I’m reading the manga) and Madoka Magica. I love rewatching TPN, but Madoka I have to mentally prepare myself for cause good lord does it make me feel like I never took anti-depressants/pos and then a movie I love now, A Silent Voice. I think I do know that one scene for scene. As a kid who grew up being bullied for being different or just not doing things right, I felt strongly for the main characters. I’ve cried almost every single time I’ve watched the movie. The part where one of the characters jumped off the balcony kills me every time because it reminds me how that could’ve been me from the fresh ages of 9-16 and almost was. It just holds a special spot in my heart and helps me keep going. (I adore my sad heart wrenching shit lmfao)
• Which Redacted boy are you platonically attracted to? Like- forget dating, which dude do you want to be your best friend?
Asher and Guy, those two would be so much fun to be friends with, also with the fact I’m so similar to them, especially Asher, bro is just like me fr 💀💀💀 collars and all. Like I just wanna be that man’s friend he is so silly
• Do you have a go-to thing you ramble about when you're tired, and if so, what is it? (For example, my boyfriend knows I'm ready to sleep when | start talking about space.)
As cheesy as it is, the fact I just want everyone in the world to be okay and happy, I want us all to hold hands, hug, and not hurt. I cry during these rambles sometimes, I genuinely just want everyone to be safe and happy and it tears me up inside and out bc that’s just not possible with the world we live in. That or I just start rambling nonsense lmfao (bonus is if I start rambling about how much I love and care about the person I’m talking to)
• Tell me your go-to gas station and drink combo.
Root beer and either Hot Cheetos/Cheesy Ruffles, or spicy chicken cheese sticks, meow I’m eating the shit out of that. (But if we have the money for it, Icys specifically cherry cause it’s objectively the best flavor next to Pinacolada)
• Tell me about your favorite playlist at the moment.
Like music playlist? Currently my fave has to be either my Alexis, Quinn, or my Darlin and Quinn playlists, I love my evil people playlists and songs that represent fucked up mindsets and relationships. That or my Melancholy Comfort playlist, I enjoy my meloncholy songs.
Redacted playlist tho? Either Sam, Vega, or Caelum, Sam holds a very special place in my heart, he’s incredibly comforting and ngl I miss the less sexual audios from his earlier era. Vega just drives me feral with every new piece of info we learn, GOD I FUCKING LOVE THAT ANCIENT MAN AND THE LORE HE DROPS!!! And then Caelum’s playlist holds a special place in my heart since that was the only playlist I could listen to after finding out I was cheated on/the other woman. Helped me out a lot for about 2 months 💞
• What's your guilty pleasure media, and why?
Those shitty werewolf romance things you see on tiktok, GOD I get so fucking invested in those they’re so needlessly interesting LMFAO idc they’re cringe, I’m cringe too stfu
• And whatever else you think tells me about who you are!
I’m a huge performer! I love singing, dancing, acting, especially singing and dancing. I LIVE for the stage and positive attention, I just wanna make people smile or make people feel scene when I preform. Hopefully one day I can be famous and truly fulfill that dream of mine. I also feel emotions strongly and spent my entire childhood from middle school and up studying psychology and human behavior. Also I absolutely HATE fake people, I can’t stand when people are fake, I try to be a safe person for everyone to truly be themselves cause lord knows I always hated having to put on a mask growing up/being isolated because I didn’t fit in lmfao.
I forgot to click on anon sorry-
I adore this entry- not only did you give me so much information to work with but you’ve given me an opportunity to pair you with Lasko which I love to do.
He’s such a character in need of love, and I think you’re a perfect person to love him and be loved in return for so many reasons. He’d be an introvert to your extrovert which is always an adorable couple dynamic. You’ve mentioned a past characterized by isolation and feeling other; Lasko is uniquely situated to understand and empathize with that. You prefer true, genuine people, and Lasko is so incredibly (albeit apologetically) himself and probably incapable of being anything else.
One of the most fun activities I think you and Lasko would do together is watch anime. I like to think he’s already a fan, mostly of adventure and isekai, with some cheesy shoujo faves he’s so bashful about liking. You show him A Silent Voice, which isn’t his usual genre, and you two cry together. Another fun thing is how you’ll perform and Lasko will be in the front row every time, cheering you on. He brings you a mismatched bouquet and rambles about how he couldn’t pick a dozen of one flower, so he got a little of them all.
Song:
Cause lately it's been hard/ They're sellin' me for parts/ And I don't wanna be modern art/ But I only got half a heart to give to you/ How can you miss someone you've never seen?/ Oh, tell me, are your eyes brown, blue, or green?/ And do you like it with sugar and cream?/ Or do you take it straight, oh, just like me?
You like melancholy songs; I can provide. This is one of my favorite pining songs, and it makes me think of a young Lasko (and maybe a young you) longing for connection, love, understanding, that one person who will make the love songs finally make sense. It makes me picture Lasko just waiting for you, you know?
Runner-ups:
On the total opposite of the pairing spectrum, Hudson is one of your runner-ups because he’d be such a good match to you as a performer. I personally can’t imagine a better hype man than Hudson. I’m also picking David as a runner-up for you, because I think you two would contrast each other really cutely, in a maybe golden retriever/german shepherd way.
Read this post and send me an ask if you’d like a match-up of your own! 💌
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182 Days of TPN - Day 102
Chapter 102: “Found It”
I don’t remember much of the demon town scenes in the anime (because honestly, who would want to remember?), but I am kinda upset we didn’t see much of these demon kids, especially the smaller one with the fascination for leaves. It’s cute.
This is some very unfortunate foreshadowing. “Yet” might as well be very large and in bold print.
If it wasn’t for the artbook, I would’ve never realized that Dominic was actually wearing an animal pelt in this panel. He has every right to be proud of it! I am too and I love this child immensely!
The way the younger kids rush to carry out Ray’s very specific request with no questions asked.. GF kids are definitely something to be feared. I would’ve definitely needed him to repeat his instructions at least thrice. Not to mention that Ray knows exactly which books he needs and where they were located. Yeah his great memory helps out with that, but then you gotta remember that between the trip to and from GP and being out on the Cuvitdala search for several months, Ray really hasn’t been around the shelter for that long compared to everyone else, so the fact he’s already read through the entire shelter library is so damn impressive to me.
Darn accursed timeskips making us miss out on all the exploring. Little headcanon of mine is that the east side trip is when Emma loses one of her hairpins since she has all three while saying bye to Yuugo & everyone else.
As much as I enjoyed seeing Emma & Ray do all that parkour throughout the town in the anime, I would’ve much rather had this small reveal rather than the chase scene with those two larger demons whom I didn’t really care for. And we’re not even gonna mention how that whole fiasco ended. Nope.
Hey Don’s doing his best! & I love how often we’ve seen the GV kids impressed with those from GF up to this point and now GV is getting some well deserved praise as well. All the children are just amazing. Plain and simple.
Also nice to see the subtle change everyone went through over the past year and how happy and at ease everyone is. For now. (I think Paula has a scarf now too, or at least it looked like one in an earlier panel this chapter.)
And I am SO VERY PROUD of them all! My babies grow up so fast because of timeskips. But damn, that’s another thing I’m mad about.. season two not even giving Ray his scarf! It’s fine, he and Paula can be scarf buddies. Maybe that’s where he got it from. Who knows. We never will.
Favorite panel/moment:
Seeing how wild Emma’s hair can truly be. Even Ray’s has become a mess.
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PRECIOUS.
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Highly recommend checking out @puff-poff's posts on demon culture for anyone who hasn't read them already for the most comprehensive analysis on subjects in this vein.
(Chapter 90 Bonus Sketch)
Luce having the most ostentatious mask of the poachers as a reflection of him being part of the garish nouveau riche compared to the quiet luxury of Nous, Nouma, Bayon, and Leuvis is a familiar and fitting dynamic given the commentary on class division Shirai leans into.
Regarding being able to reveal their faces, I disagree.
(Chapter 102)
While the two demon brothers have never seen meat from any of the four top class farms—with their bodies completely intact upon serving—we do see a collection of mass production heads in a jar available for sale among the lower classes, probably the most expensive jar in the shop with the value the human brain has among demonkind. (One could argue they meant they never saw it because it was in the very back of the shop in that particular panel, but I'd say it's pedantic for ignoring the intention of this speech to be another nod to the class divide and strife among the demon populace.)
There's also the issue of the horizontal placement of human eyes compared to the vertical placement of demons'.

(Chapter 147 | Chapter 149 | Chapter 150)
Older, classical masks like those of the elder Bayons (compared to those of Bayon II's wife and children), Yverk, and Geelan's clan incorporate a pair of symmetrical, horizontal, and frequently vacant eye holes among their designs. In the chapter 90 bonus sketch, this is mentioned as respecting tradition, which I interpret as a holdover from the days of demons hunting humans, and the intention of that incorporation was to play on pareidolia-enhanced fear among humans who, out of habit, would look toward the horizontal pair of eye holes first when gazing upon demons in combat and would frequently be treated to an unflinching, menacing abyss. It's a good subtle tactic to unnerve them before they take in the rest of the mask.
(Mystic Code Book Chapter 7 Q&A)
This is also why I have mixed feelings about the kids' demon masks. On the one hand, I do understand why they wouldn't want to draw attention to themselves and risk having their human eyes being seen through more conspicuous holes.
(Chapter 102)
But I really wish they would have spent a panel acknowledging Gillian, Nigel, and Sonya incorporating nearly imperceptible eye slits or something to clarify exactly how they see while wearing them.
But unrelated to the mask conundrum, there's also the issue of humans having five digits on their hands compared to six that demons have (though I know there's a joke about Sonju having varying amounts of toes throughout the story).
I don’t think it’s been confirmed how well they can smell humans since they had to wear perfume
I'd say them having to wear perfume at all is a good indicator the demons' sense of smell vastly outclasses that of humans.

(Chapter 83 | Chapter 1)
The only reasons the two lackey demons don’t come after Emma and Norman right away in chapter 1 is that they’re caught up in conversation and probably a bit intoxicated off the idea of being able to eat even "just a fingertip" of meat from a top class farm, which is not something for the likes of lowly farm workers to enjoy, though Shirai notes they and even those working at mass production farms do have more prestige than demons of the same class working in other jobs.
(Mystic Code Book Chapter 7 Q&A)
interesting hypothesis…
I have made other posts about how demons differ based on what they eat. I thought this scene when Don, Gilda, Emma, Ray, Violet and Zack were searching for the golden water temples was every interesting

We as the readers have seen demons with feet like that! (These are just Bayon cuz his outfit makes it the easiest to see his feet)




i don’t think it has ever been explicitly said that masks are a sign of wealth, we only know that older/richer/ more dangerous demons have masks that are harder to break
but if they are a sign of pride and status then lower class demons that the protags were interacting with would not have seen the faces of rich demons before!
so hypothetically the humans could show their faces/feet and claim they were rich demons that didn’t show regeneration? The poor most likely haven’t seen human faces before because brains are the most valuable part
but I don’t think it’s been confirmed how well they can smell humans since they had to wear perfume
#the amount of time it took my dumb ass to stop looking toward the horizontal eyes in the masks first let me tell you#Long Post#TPN Meta#TPN Demons#FSS Chatter#Mystic Code Book#Goldy Pond Battle Arc#TPN 082#TPN 083#TPN 084#Cuvitidala Arc#Imperial Capital Battle Arc#TPN 090#TPN 102#TPN 147#TPN 149#TPN 150#Bayon I#Bayon II#Luce#Nouma#Nous#Leuvis
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#It's so funny to see the bsd fandom complain at every single chapter that comes out about how slowly things are moving#When you're coming from four years of being in the tpn fandom where people spent every single chapter–#complaining because of the fast pace of the events ahah#My life coming full circle#Personally I'd much rather have a slow progression than a fast one but it's probably up to personal tastes#And maybe I've just been traumatized by the experience of tpn closing off in the worst moment possible–#and cutting off so many branches that would have been SO interesting to explore#bsd#bungou stray dogs#bsd ch 102#mine#c.q.
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#обещанный неверленд#the promised neverland#manga#yakusoku no neverland#yakusoku no nebārando#chapter 102#TPN Spoilers#tpn#tpn manga#tpn emma#Emma
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The Promised Neverland Parallels
↳ (1/?) » 102 // 148
#whoops I forgot to post this one#tpn ray#tpn emma#rayemma#tpn#the promised neverland#ynn#yakuso no neverland#tpn ch 102#tpn ch 148#tpn manga spoilers#tpn parallels#tpn parallelss#tpn edit#my edit#mine
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#idk i think about it a lot like. on one hand you have characters like don who is just. an absolutely wonderful character #never portrayed as overly aggressive and just a really emotional and sensitive person without being infantilized for those traits #the one time he DOES lash out in anger (a very reasonable reaction to the circumstances that caused it) he's not demonized for it #my favorite character in the whole series after ray if you dont love him youre wrong #meanwhile krone is an incredibly interesting and well-written character she suffers immensely from being drawn like a fucking caricature #like none of the other characters have this problem and demizu did realize that was shitty and draws her normally now but #it doesn't change the fact that those caricatures are still present in the escape arc and s1 (though the anime is better abt this) #and an especially bad impression considering she's the first significant black character to appear in the series #krone being drawn Like That is definitely the biggest flaw this series has #aside from that lke. phil is really good even if we dont see him much between the first and last arcs #i LOVED ayshe even if she deserved more development (and i wish she didn't have blond hair and blue eyes lol) #zack is a really great character and pepe is the only afro latino character ive ever seen in manga and i love him. also his design fucks
All of this sounds super promising (could not agree more about Don; he’s such a good kid 💗💗), but I’m especially interested in your thoughts on Krone given what you’ve already mentioned about her being the first significant Black character we’re introduced to and the issues with her design.
I’m not sure what you’ve already seen regarding the subject (apologies if this is all repetitive), but there’s this video by Zeria:
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And this blogpost by Jackson P. Brown: https://www.jacksonpbrown.com/anime-and-manga/2018/8/2/thoughts-on-the-promised-neverland-and-black-women-in-manga
The anime is somewhat better about how she’s drawn, yes, but then we have the tradeoff of her being given a doll to voice her internal manga monologues to that she ends up pummeling repeatedly, playing into other stereotypes about aggressive Black women and how they’re more likely to be perceived as violently threatening than white women.
I’ve seen multiple people rightfully criticize her depiction during the escape arc, but I’ve never seen anyone reference her appearance in the beach side story bonus comics, specifically the ones featured after chapter 82 and 85 in the VIZ English release:

I love seeing women with visible muscles being allowed to exist, but when taking into account her portrayal in the escape arc, how she’s the only character handled in this manner, how this is done for the sake of laughs, how she’s one of the few prominent characters of color in the entire series, and how Black women are often portrayed as more masculine than their white counterparts in order to prop up the latter and Eurocentric beauty standards
https://twitter.com/brownandbella/status/731211750666846208
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/hannaheko/aint-i-a-woman
https://www.racism.org/articles/intersectionality/gender/1664-blackgirlsvictimization?start=5
it leaves a bad taste in one’s mouth.
And all of this is a shame because she’s arguably the most-explored character of color despite only being around for eighteen chapters/seven episodes. Her story was so compelling she was ranked as the tenth most popular character by Shounen Jump readers. She beat out Don and Gilda despite them being much bigger players in the long run,

and that’s after she was dead for roughly eighty chapters and before the second light novel and the bonus chapter based on it were published. She was popular enough to be featured in bonus tankobon side stories and have a hidden comic on the official website featuring a glimpse into her childhood that showed what prompted Smee to eventually give her one of the promised pens when they crossed paths at headquarters.
But one would be remiss to ignore the harmful effects of her depiction when no media is created in a vacuum.
at some point when i can gather my thoughts i would like to make an in-depth post (would probably end up being more of an essay honestly) about how tpn treats its characters of color because like. there’s definitely a colorism problem with anime/manga in general and i think tpn has some really solid black and brown characters for a medium that is severely lacking in that department but there’s also some things it handles poorly and it would be good to explore that i think
#tw: racism#tw: colorism#Long Post#TPN Critical#TPN Negative#TPN Salt#FSS Chatter#The Promised Neverland Art Book World#Escape Arc#TPN 082#TPN 085#TPN 102#Krone#Isabella#Don#Phil#Zack#Pepe#goldiipond#technikki#it sucks even when rating the series on a personal subjective enjoyment scale i can't give it a perfect score bc of how they handled Krone#when looking up old reddit discussions regarding the topic i saw multiple people treat it dismissively#saying the people who voiced this criticism and how it upset them were just looking for things to be mad about 🙃#Zack and Pepe don't have to deal with this but they suffer from being characters introduced during an experimental arc#and largely being sidelined once that arc is over#never reaching the level of impact that Krone had never having nearly as much time dedicated to exploring their characters#rereading the GP arc is wild bc *while* i'm reading it i'm hype with how it builds up within its isolated arc#but once i reach the end it's like ''oh right these guys aren't relevant to the narrative anymore </3''#the downside of having so many characters: no way to properly flesh them all out
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...I thought this was going to be a legit scene until I started reading the dialog, lmao. But hey, thanks for reminding me who the important looking demon from the flashes was.
Top three isn’t too surprising, and it’s very good to see my boy Phil getting the respect he deserves. I’m surprised Krone made it into the top ten, but this popularity poll was probably running at the same time as the anime. Anna’s also a weird surprise for 5th place. I feel bad for Don and Gilda, though not even top ten. Glad to see Yugo up there, he’s a good character.
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Yes, hello, I love your blog, you're my only window into what the fandom is doing and I could always completely skip the manga and just stick to reading here. So, about your poll of popular theories, I saw something about the demon world being underwater, would you mind elaborating, please? It's for research. For a fanfic 👀
[The poll in question]
I'm always going to advocate for reading the manga, not just because of what happened with S2, but also to see all the gorgeous detailing Demizu puts into her work that's lost in the transition to TV animation, along with her playing with perspectives/proportions in relationship to power dynamics.
(Chapter 1 | S1 Episode 1)
But thank you! <3
My understanding was the theory of the demon world being underwater was introduced by @couldnt-think-of-a-better-name, who was mainly active during the series' heyday (February 2019-July 2019, between the releases of chapters 123-142 during the King of Paradise and Seven Walls arcs and when S1 premiered in Japanese and English).
• Main post about the theory • Secondary post about Lambda-7214 being a coordinate • Neat edit of chapter 7's, chapter 16's, and chapter 2's cover art • Volume 13 Special Edition mini-artbook art hinting at the trajectory of the series
I think it's interesting in how the Seven Walls search party traverses what we're presented with as the entire demon world to find clues about Cuvitidala and the Seven Walls, yet the largest body of water we see anyone interact with is a pond. Nothing close to an ocean that would present them with difficulties such as building or buying a boat from demons.






(Chapter 60 | Volume 8 Title Page | Chapter 99 | Chapter 100 | Chapter 102)
Shirai also confirmed the elevator at Goldy Pond takes one to "a certain forest in Australia" (out of 458 forest communities).
(Mystic Code Book Chapter 3 Q&A)
While the stairs under Grace Field headquarters seem to land one somewhere on the east coast of the former United States of America.







(Chapter 178 | Chapter 179)
There's the imagery of the Statue of Liberty, leading me to believe the North American headquarters for the Ratri clan are located in (former?) New York City, but I don't know if I would necessarily say they wash up on the city's shores since Mike takes a jet out to meet them and the children aren't freezing in the November weather there. There's also the impracticality of after coming back from the demon world to transport goods or just traverse between the worlds you conspicuously land out in the open on the beach, so I believe it was the demon god's meddling that sent them to this beach, and the proper exit in one specific, singular location like the Goldy Pond one is somewhere else in the area. Two specific locations located in opposite hemispheres in our world, yet in the demon world you could potentially travel between the two passageways on foot in approximately a week based on the time it took the kids to reach the shelter at B06-32 (one day of initially wandering through the forest, five days traveling with Sonju and Mujika, and one day walking through the wasteland) and how long it took Yuugo, Emma, and Ray to reach Goldy Pond (four days) if it was a straight shot.

(Chapter 49 | Chapter 60)
It all leaves me very curious about how large the demon world is compared to the human world and how the demon god decided to split the two worlds up.
It's also interesting how despite all the water imagery in the series, we don't see any rain in the manga outside of the chapter 28 cover art (mentioned in the fourth post of that list):

But the anime chose to have a very light rain overlay during the second episode while not animating the ground or characters getting wet:
It rains in the light novels.
(TPN Light Novel 1: A Letter from Norman [June 2018] - "The Day Emma Cried")
(TPN Light Novel 4: Films of Memories [December 2020] - "Operation Stormy Night," originally published in Minerva Confidential Report Report Volume 1 that was packaged with the first volume of the Japanese S1 blu-ray in March 2019)
And we see the children playing in the snow in the past.
(Chapter 10 Bonus Scene)
#my favorite fan theory is Norman is a Ratri‚ though I don't know if they were the originator or main proponent of that one#along with Sienna is Emma's bio mom‚ Matilda is Norman's bio mom‚ and Emma & Carol and Norman & Sherry being bio (half) siblings#but I think this one's fun to play around with too#couldnt-think-of-a-better-name#The Promised Neverland#Yakusoku no Neverland#TPN#TPN Meta#FSS Asks#FSS Chatter#Long Post#Read More#Mystic Code Book#Minerva Confidential Report#TPN Light Novels#A Letter from Norman#The Day Emma Cried#Films of Memories#Operation Stormy Night#TPN S1#TPN S1e02#TPN 010#TPN 028#TPN 001#TPN S1e01#TPN 060#TPN 062#TPN 099#TPN 100#TPN 102
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Oh. They had 2 years. Now they have at most 4 months.
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I should probably re-read the last 20 chapters then because I thought it was confirmed that the small demon and his dragon were supposed to be the Demon God. Or at least, I think Emma believes that? But feel free to do whatever you want. Heck, you can probably just use the small demon/dragon as the Cheshire Cat. No need to worry whether he's /actually/ the God or not because that will be for later in the official manga.
Just did a quick reading myself ahaha - The small fellow gives off more of a Cheshire Cat vibe, as with his lines ‘here, there is nothing, yet everything,’ and ‘the entrance is nowhere at all… but that’s because it’s just everywhere.’ - Ah but Emma does say that she believes she had encountered Him upon snapping back into reality, so I believe you’re right!
#vobomon#my memory's just groggy ahaha#chapter 101 i believe it was - perhaps 102#The Promised Wonderland AU#The Promised Wonderland#tpn manga spoilers#manga spoilers#spoilers
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Ohayo!
Welcome to my ARTS 102 project formally titled “Attack on Neverland: A Comparative Analysis of Attack on Titan and The Promised Neverland and their Alternative Approaches to Ending the Cycle of Hatred." This project to aims to explore how AOT and TPN are similar stories that went off completely opposite trajectories in the face of unresolvable conflict. It also aims to delve into the relevance of these media in our society today.
As the animated series of The Promised Neverland went on a completely different route from the original Manga and seeing that Attack on Titan Season 4 is still ongoing, this project will be deriving its content based on the respective manga of each series. Screenshots will be taken from the animated shows, but factual content will all come from the manga as both series are already finished.
*MAJOR Spoiler warning. This whole project will be full of spoilers. Proceed at your own risk, or better yet, watch both and then come back to this afterwards :)
Here are the different segments for easier viewing:
*Note: As this project is a work of progress, those without hyperlinks are still yet to be published
1. Common themes
Humanity as livestock/Humanity in a cage
A yearning for freedom
The spectrum of good and evil
2. Similar Elements
The main trio
The existence of devils/demons
Ancient ancestral contracts maintaining the status quo
3. Abiding by destiny vs. Defying destiny
4. Ending the cycle of hatred
5. Relevance to real world issues
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FUCK GO BACK
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