#THIS MILES EDGEWORTH TRULY IS WINNING

[doctorsiren]

I’ve been thinking about Miles as Serizawa quite a bit 😁

[aceof-stars]

(Edited to adjust my argument).

I think RTFA confirming that Miles Edgeworth didn't intentionally forge evidence aligns with his established character in the first four cases. It does take away some audience interpretation but personally I'm fine with that.

First of all I don't think the rest of AA1 ever confirmed it one way or the other. There are a few instances where Phoenix thinks of Edgeworth as an evidence forger but it's not like Phoenix would know for sure either. (Do correct me, with specific lines please, if I'm wrong though).

But more importantly, if you only look at the first four cases of AA1 Edgeworth being an evidence forger doesn't make sense with his character. Why would a prosecutor forge evidence? Not including reasons like being blackmailed. 1) If they don't care (enough) about the truth (prioritizing things like success over it), or 2) if they truly believe the defendant is guilty and are desperate for a conviction (aka the reason Adrian Andrews forges evidence in 2-4).

Does Edgeworth care about the truth, before the start of his redemption arc at the end of 1-3?

Yes... kind of. I don't think he prioritizes the truth or consciously cares about it. As the "Demon Prosecutor", Edgeworth cares about justice, and achieving it through punishment. However, convicting the wrong person would not be justice to him. Which is what makes Edgeworth change sides to convict the right person in 1-3. So in that sense, he does care about the truth.

You could argue that Edgeworth had already lost once to Phoenix and thought "screw this, my perfect record is already gone, another loss wouldn't change that fact". But compare him to two characters who are actually obsessed with their perfect records. Manfred, a perfectionist control-freak, getting a penalty (not even losing!) unraveled him so much that he killed Gregory in the heat of the moment. Franziska after losing in 2-2 declares that: "That spirit channeling trial was a sham! I refuse to acknowledge its legitimacy! It did not count!" She doesn't even want to admit that she lost. Edgeworth, on the other hand, doesn't act like someone who truly prioritizes his win record over the truth.

Because Edgeworth didn't just let himself lose in 1-3, he made himself lose. He made Vasquez testify again. She would have gotten away if Edgeworth didn't say anything. And after the trial he tells the judge "Will Powers was innocent. That he should be found so is only natural… not a miracle."

Okay but if Edgeworth does care about the truth (to some extent), and believed that every defendant being guilty was the truth, he could have easily gone down the path of forging evidence to ensure the verdict reflected what he believed to be true. That leads me to my next question:

2. Does Edgeworth truly believe that every defendant he prosecutes is guilty?

Actually no. He says this in Turnabout Sisters: "Innocent"...? How can we know that? The guilty will always lie, to avoid being found out. There's no way to tell who is guilty and who is innocent! All that I can hope to do is get every defendant declared "guilty"! So I make that my policy.

Yeah I think that line speaks for itself.

Miles Edgeworth can't bring himself to consciously care about or prioritize the truth, but the moment it's presented in front of him he also can't bring himself to ignore it. He doesn't think it would be just to knowingly convict an innocent person, but he's so disillusioned and distrusting of people that he's lost faith in finding the truth.

So, he commits himself to getting guilty verdicts because he believes that's the best shot he has at enacting justice, even if he accidentally convicts innocent people from time to time.

And to me that aligns with his reaction to finding out he unknowingly used forged evidence in 1-5. Edgeworth was so disillusioned with finding the truth that he has accepted that some collateral damage would inevitably happen as a result of his mindset. However, because he still can't let go of his dedication to the truth, he wouldn't want to lie or rewrite the facts to achieve his verdicts.

[musashi]

How did the "Phoenix sent Miles letters and then MVK burned them" headcanon belief turned an actual thing people believe happened even come about?? I truly have never seen a fandom so hellbent on making people conform to their headcanons that they literally make up things and pretend they happened in the games. It doesn't even make sense with MVK's character but I guess people are too hellbent on portraying him as comically evil.

ace attorney fans are very bad at playing ace attorney. tons of them will readily admit to not watching playthroughs or playing themselves but instead getting all of their knowledge on the canon through fanfiction and fanworks.

they are quite literally playing telephone. and the fandom is actively hostile to new fans, because we come in and say 'this fanon is directly contradicted by canon?' and IMMEDIATELY get dogpiled en masse by the 6 high school bullies in charge of What Fanon Is Allowed. obviously, that scares new fans off--if a fandom doesn't even respect the canon, then anything goes, and whoever wins is whoever shouts loudest.

no one wants their fandom experience to be shouting. so they move onto fandoms that are more welcoming, and only the nastiest people are left. it sucks, and ace attorney is bar none the worst example i've seen.

and like i said, it all just comes back to the fact that miles edgeworth is the fandom darling, very easy to project onto because fandom is often full of traumatized social outcasts who struggle with immeasurable amounts of self-loathing. miles edgeworth is like crack to them. but to acknowledge that he is a complex person who can make mistakes and hurt others means acknowledging that so can they. they are not brave enough or mature enough to do that, so they make all of miles' choices not his own, but the action of some faceless abuser in the shadows who "made him that way" or forced him to hurt others.

that's also why these same people go CRAZY when they encounter people who identify with and project onto a character like mvk. as someone with OCPD, i find manfred very relatable. i love that he's canonically disabled, i love that he's canonically neurodivergent, and i love that he is easy to project my own OCPD onto. when i bring this up in fan spaces, all respectable debate goes out the window and the naysayers just start reciting quips and memes at me instead. they cannot argue against it because they see the logical contradiction--why is it ok to project onto miles, but not onto manfred? they cannot allow me to expose that hypocrisy.

if only its transparency lead to any productive discussion about it. sadly, these people are just beyond help or debate, and so all i can do is block them and ignore them and pray they stop making sockpuppet accounts to harass me and my friends for liking some made-up collection of pixels.

[its-just-hyper]

Take this song I made guys it’s funny I swear. (Lyrics/id under cut because my mic is very mediocre)

[[ visual is just manfred Von karma’s taser sprite on a black background. Lyrics are sung to Rasputin by Boney M. ]]

There lived a german man

In town quite recently

He was big and armed and he wouldn't let you free.

Most people looked at him

With terror and with awe

And to criminals his words cut them like a saw

He knew law how fishes know the water

Down to letter, dash, and dot,

Trained from birth his terrifying daughter

Not once ever lost.

Va- va- Von Karma, demon like you've never saw,

A nearly perfect streak till the end

Va- va- Von Karma, frozen heart will never thaw

Until there’s nothing left to defend!

In all affairs of court

Its him to not defeat

Even if you could, a dark fate you’d surely meet

Through sickness and in pain

He’d never take a break

But when justice shined, all that effort was in vain.

Edgeworth was a fighter of corruption

Yet the wrong case he had won,

Evil’s petty legacy abduction

Who would raise his son?

Va- Va Von Karma Japaniforna’s demon spawn

A nearly perfect streak till the end

Va- Va- Von Karma, Miles as a vengeance pawn,

Groomed till his wish was not to defend!

But when his lies, and fraudulence, and hunger for perfection became known to just the right lawyer, The pressure and evidence against him was stacking higher and higher

“This lawyer’s gotta go”

Declared one Phoenix Wright

But Edgeworth insisted “you cannot win this fight”

No doubt this Von Karma

Had lots of hidden schemes

Phoenix vowed that saving Miles was all he needs.

Then one night, not christmas– only ‘almost’

Guns were shot Miles was blamed

“Edgeworth fell from grace” Manfred demanded

He was truly framed.

Va- Va- Von Karma Prosecuting Prodigy

Destroying evidence all the time

Va- Va- Von Karma proof was left for nobody

Phoenix was tased but ended up fine!

Va- Va- Von Karma! Plotting, Vile, Murderer

He waited years for his case to close

Va- Va- Von Karma! Evil, chronic perjurer

But couldn’t hide just under Wright’s nose!

[solsilverpine]

➺ 𝒓𝓾𝓵𝓮𝓼: list your ten favorite characters from ten separate fandoms, then tag ten people!

thank you for the tag: @sunatsubu @mayawakening @hayesflints @iftheresaproblem-whatever @benny-the-killer-kangaroo @lost-in-derry and @mxtr3ssquickly 💜🧡✨

Alexander Kallus - Star wars rebels (Hard choice between the boys but Kal wins since a show has to work real hard to make me go from "what a generic annoying antagonist" to "where is he, is he okay")

Kotetsu T Kaburagi - Tiger & Bunny (Truly an incredible show, one I've studied and enjoyed many times over the years, will always recommend.)

Miles Edgeworth - Ace Attorney (The game franchise as a whole is incredible, but his arc is a stand out for me and very close to my heart. If you can't play these games yourself I recommend watching the game grumps playthrough (high Chaos) or one of ProZD's (refined Chaos) like "push buttons and talk". There's also an anime adaption but it rushes the story in a few places and has weird filler arcs.)

Venom - Venom live action films (I adore him. I get such pure joy from this gremlin. Literally will do a little happy dance whenever I see his goofy lil smile.)

Jason Todd - Batman (hard pick between him and nightwing lol. I will take this opportunity to recommend Wayne Family Adventures tho. Its free on Webtoon and batfamily members are treated with the compassion they often don't get in mainstream comics.)

Pitch Black - Rise of the guardians (I watched this film in cinemas when it came out. It gave me a crisis over weather or not the villain really deserved the ending he got and inspired me not to give up on writing things that were different. 15/10 good watch.)

Samurai Jack - Samurai Jack (A beautiful show that is an absolute feast of visual storytelling. I have a lot of sentimental attachment to this one so I might be biased but if you have never seen it I recommend checking it out.)

Arataka Reigen - Mob Psycho 100 (Same as Kallus I went from disliking him to rooting for him and really enjoying how his story played out.)

Wolverine - X-men (I just think he's neat. Also my mother took my interest in wolverine as a sign of my late blooming heterosexuality and brought me a bunch of posters and figures of wolverine, and Hugh jackman in general, during high school. I'm still not heterosexual but I am a monsterfuqqer now so...)

Princess Bubblegum- Adventure time (Also Marcy but one character RIP. Her growth throughout the seasons is lovely to watch and also I met Hayes through this show so it's special.)

Open tag to anyone who hasn't been tagged yet/would like to do it 🧡💜

[kijimha]

Simon Keyes lore real

aai2 spoilers duh. dont mind me

alright. So Simon Keyes and Horace Knightley were friends throughout their childhood. Their dads were also friends and were named Gustavia and Dover. Simon's dad, Gustavia, had no sense of taste, so he had his son taste his sweets for him.

Gustavia and Dover partook in a competition where the prize would be something that could cure Gustavia's lack of taste. Dover wanted to win, however, so he told Horace to tie up Simon and threatened him if he didn't comply. While he was out doing this, Gustavia ended up killing Dover and Im pretty sure they caused the incident where the elevator got stuck and Edgeworth's dad died

Knightley tied up Keyes as asked all while crying. He put Simon in his dad's car and went in with him as well, saying Dover would come and get them after the competition. Dover never came. Knightley tried to open the door, but considering the freezing temperatures, it wouldn't budge. The two children almost died, but an assassin by the name of Sirhan Dogen and his dog Anubis came by and saved the two. Because of the trauma, both children's memories of the incident became hazy.

Keyes and Knightley were given their current names and sent to the Happy Home Family Orphanage, the head director being miss Patricia Roland. You see, there was a conspiracy going on that Roland, the chairman prosecutor Debeste and a body-double were a part of. The president of Zheng Fa was to be murdered and replaced by the body-double. The murder was going to be carried out by Dogen and they planned to have him arrested after. Keyes heard ALL of this and set a big fire, allowing Dogen to escape after the assassination was carried out.

Keyes was interrogated heavily by Roland and most likely Debeste as well, but since they had no way of truly knowing he heard anything, they didn't make him "disappear". After his friend's betrayal left him feeling bitter, Simon ran away from the orphanage without telling someone. It's unclear what happened during the years he grew up, but he was constantly on the run from the likes of Debeste and Roland.

At some point he dyed his hair (probably a disguise) and became an animal tamer at the Berry Big Circus, working under Regina Berry. It was during this time he reunited with Knightley, who had become a bodyguard for the "president" of Zheng Fa (the body-double). They played chess sometimes and Simon devised a plan. Since his memory of the incident before was muddled, he thought that Dover was his father and not Gustavia, also blamimg Horace for "his" father being a murderer.

First, Roland.

Roland became the warden of the prison they were going to be performing at. You see, Dogen had been arrested and was held at the prison Roland worked at and she was an extremely paranoid woman. Knightley had killed his coworker Rooke out of petty enviness and was also held at this prison. Since Horace and Simon played correspondence chess, Simon decided to also play chess with Dogen and, somewhere along the line made Dogen and Horace play against eachother. Both thought they were playing against Simon.

Before their performance, Simon visited Horace and gave him his chess set back. The chess set had a secret compartment where Simon put in a chisel (the kind Dogen used for wood whittling). Roland, finding the correspondence chess and then the chisel, thought Horace was working as Dogen's "dog" and murdered him, stabbing the chisel into his neck to pretend Dogen did it. She eventually was found out by Miles Edgeworth.

Next, Blaise Debeste.

Being a pretty evil chairman prosecutor, he had a lot of enemies. During his conspiring, someone had heard their plans and contacted his girlfriend, Rosie Ringer, to relay the information he heard. Debeste made him (Aldown) "disappear". Simon talked to Ringer and convinced her to take revenge for Debeste's murder of her boyfriend while he also anonymously told Blaise that Ringer was going to try and kill him, to which he decided to retaliate by killing her first.

To make sure Edgeworth would take the case, he put on a red raincoat and kidnapped Faraday, taking her up on a hot air balloon used to advertise the Berry Big Circus. He wanted to leave her at the top of the Bigg Building, but to his surprise Wang and Courtney were talking there. Fearing the worst, Wang shot at the balloon and Keyes' balloon crushed him. Although the body-double's death was welcomed... this would distract Edgeworth from Ringer's case. He took the impostor's gun, hid the body in a film slot and met Wang's son, Shaun Fenn, who accidentally started a fire. He pinned Fenn for the murder.

As expected, Edgeworth took the case. Blaide tried to pin the blame on a now amnesia-ridden Kay Faraday, which backfired after basically everyone retaliated against him, including Justine Courtney and his own son, Sebastian Debeste.

Last, Di-Jun Wang, the body-double.

Originally, Simon heard from Horace that there was going to be a fake assassination attempt on the fake President. He told Horace he could be the hero in the situation. Simon wanted to have the President killed at the hands of Shelly De Killer in a real assassination attempt. De Killer arrived at the scene, broke Horace's neck (which is why he wears that neck brace) but was overpowered by Rooke and was forced to run. Although, Knightley ended up killing Rooke in jealousy, something Keyes didn't expect.

De Killer took Knightley hostage and tried to threaten Wang as well. Surprisingly, the president was a coward and tried to sacrifice his bodyguards, nothing like the real Wang. Confused, De Killer didn't carry out his assassination and became suspicious. Since Simon didn't tell De Killer that the president was a fake, this would make him try to kill Simon later on. More on that later.

Edgeworth got Horace arrested for Rooke's murder as Simon hoped. Horace was put in prison, yada yada, and I already explained what happened with Roland above.

Though, Simon was accused of the murder of Knightley because of the chess board, but thankfully for him Edgeworth had come to defend him from Justine Courtney and Sebastian Debeste.

When Knightley's case came along, he knew that people in power would try to make him guilty, so he kidnapped Fenn and blackmailed the judge. He'd also called Edgeworth via the bug in Kay's Yatagarasu's pin, using a voice changer and taunting him. However, Debeste had *also* been blackmailing Courtney via kidnapping "Fenn", who was actually his own son. Things went down and Edgeworth realized Simon was the mastermind.

During the day of the performance, Simon acted meek at first, before completely switching up after Edgeworth called him out. Simon ended up being found out because of some flowers at the bottom of the hot air balloon from before, however, which proved he killed the fake president.

De Killer had come along and wanted to kill Simon because he lied to him, though Dogen came to his aid, saying that Simon would pay for his crimes in prison and asked De Killer to make an exception just once. De Killer backed off. Dogen invited Simon to "go home", at the prison, to which Simon hesitantly (and rather meekly) agreed to.

The case left a huge impact on Edgeworth, who fully believed Keyes was a victim, too, and would've turned out differently if he had someone to lean on and trust. Because of this, he decided to help and save others like him before it was too late.

[reddbuster]

hi cas!! if you want specific questions, here are my two favourite questions to ask people: (a) does trucy know she and apollo are siblings, and (b) would von karma have tried to frame edgeworth if edgeworth hadn’t started losing cases. and if you want something nonspecific what are your ace attorney opinions <3 i love ace attorney opinions

oohhh that first one is juicy. Honestly I could see it going either way but I genuinely would not be surprised if she did. She probably knows Phoenix’s tells so if anyone’d be able to tell he was hiding something I think it would be her. But on the other hand Phoenix is also perceptive and might know to hide his tells from her. But if I have to pick a yes or no answer I guess I’d go with yes, if only because I think it’s compelling and also the mental image of Phoenix doing the big reveal and Trucy just going “I know”. Is really fucking funny to me. As for the other question…..honestly I do not think Manfred framing Miles for the murder has anything to do with him losing to Phoenix. I don’t even know if I think it’s something he really planned out that far in advance. My personal interpretation has always been that as the statute of limitations grew closer and closer he just got increasingly paranoid and neurotic about SOMETHING happening that could possibly cause the truth to leak out somehow (Miles’s memory is triggered and he testifies against him or something of that nature) and so he tries, in what I can only really describe as an act of calculated desperation, to wrap all those loose ends up in a neat little bow right before the date passes and he is free from the shadow of DL-6 forever. I guess I just never could buy that any criminal worth his salt let alone a genius prosecutor with a 40 year perfect win record, who’d been planning this for entire months let alone years as some people seem to think, would ever do something so blatantly stupid as HAND WRITING a letter to Yanni Yogi. You cannot convince me that Manfred Von fucking Karma would be that fucking stupid unless he felt really cornered. But that’s just my take. Maybe he’s just a technologically illiterate old prune. I suppose we will truly never know…..

[adhdvsautismbracket]

ADHD vs Autism Bracket: Summary (Round 1)

Round 1 has officially come to a close, with some outcomes that really surprised me!!

Despite sweeping so many polls before mine, Kris and Susie fucking DIED? Right off the bat. But maybe that just goes to show how iconic Phineas and Ferb are, there is truly nothing neurotypical going on in that show.

Another surprise to me was the Ink!Sans and Error!Sans VS Cuphead and Mugman matchup. Although the former received 20+ nominations and Cuphead less than 10, this ratio flipped the other way when it came to the actual polling!

Many of my personal blorbos have fallen in battle </3 Aja and Krel barely stood a chance, but having them has been a pleasure. I am once again recommending 3Below! I was also surprised by the number of polls in Side B that nearly got 50/50, but all the winning duos managed to scrape by even if it was just by 2-3%

Going forward, Side A and Side B polls will go live at the same time. Round 2 will probably begin on Friday (to give myself time to update the graphics) and will be posted around the same time of day as Round 1.

Under the cut is the updated bracket and the duos that will be going head-to-head in Round 2. The pinned post will also be updated with this information:

Side A

Matchup 1: BTW Creature & TBH Creature (The Internet) VS Wylan van Eck & Jesper Fahey (Six of Crows)

Matchup 2: Keith Kogane & Lance McClain (Voltron: Legendary Defender) VS Gomez Addams & Morticia Addams (The Addams Family)

Matchup 3: Aaron Mitchell & Katie Mitchell (The Mitchells vs. the Machines) VS Dewey Duck & Huey Duck (Ducktales)

Matchup 4: Gideon Nav & Harrowhark Nonagesimus (The Locked Tomb) VS Jay Walker & Zane (Lego Ninjago)

Matchup 5: Luz Noceda & Hunter Noceda (The Owl House) VS Kyan Reki & Hasegawa Langa (SK8 The Infinity)

Matchup 6: Phineas Flynn & Ferb Fletcher (Phineas and Ferb) VS Luca Paguro & Alberto Scorfano (Luca)

Matchup 7: Tommy Coolatta & Benrey (Half-Life VR but the AI is Self-Aware) VS Zuko & Sokka (Avatar the Last Airbender)

Matchup 8: Ty Blackthorn & Kit Herondale (The Dark Artifices) VS Reigen Arataka & Kageyama "Mob" Shigeo (Mob Psycho 100)

Side B

Matchup 1: Percy Jackson & Annabeth Chase (Heroes of Olympus) VS Mondo Owada & Kiyotaka Ishimaru (Danganronpa)

Matchup 2: Michelangelo Hamato & Donatello Hamato (Rise of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles) VS Sonic the Hedgehog & Miles "Tails" Prower (Sonic the Hedgehog)

Matchup 3: Phoenix Wright & Miles Edgeworth (Ace Attorney) VS Sunny & Kel (Omori)

Matchup 4: Dipper Pines & Mabel Pines (Gravity Falls) VS Denji & Asa Mitaka (Chainsaw Man)

Matchup 5: Troy Barnes & Abed Nadir (Community) VS Craig Tucker & Tweek Tweak (South Park)

Matchup 6: Brett Hand & Raegan Ridley (Inside Job) VS Usui Nagi & Furesawa "Fret" Tosai (The World Ends With You)

Matchup 7: Sans & Papyrus (Undertale) VS Spock & James T. Kirk (Star Trek)

Matchup 8: Zim & Gir (Invader Zim) VS Cuphead & Mugman (Cuphead)

With some of these matchups, Round 2 promises to be even fiercer than Round 1!! I hope everyone will continue to have fun and enjoy the voting process.

[starryrock]

Semi-Spoilers for Chapter 4 VTSOM + PW:AA&Rise From The Ashes

Vincent Edgeworth being a clear allusion to Miles Edgeworth means they will have many clear similarities. They are both lawyers, rich, have similar bangs, and so on. But the one thing that interests me is where they differ.

I’ve had many, many thoughts after watching Let’s Plays of Chapter 4 but what I want to focus on is a part that stuck out to me after I finished watching. It’s the part where Vincent openly admits to having used forged evidence, bribery, and other means to win his cases.

This part truly solidified as a core, thematic difference between these two characters with their relationships of their occupations.

Throughout the Ace Attorney games, we get to see Miles Edgeworth’s character development and his ideals. One of the first things we hear about him is that he’s the “Demon Prosecutor,” unafraid to use whatever means necessary to win a case, including using forged evidence. But throughout the game, and specifically in Rise From The Ashes, we see how untrue that first impression is. While Miles is still willing to be a complete pain in the ass in the courtroom, he never stoops to anything blatantly illegal (within the AA Justice System, that is [Updated Autopsy Report]). Miles refuses to even consider using dirty tactics to win a case. In RFTA, when it’s revealed he was tricked into presenting falsified evidence in the courtroom to get a mass murderer guilty, he just about breaks down. Miles Edgeworth values the truth above all else. He’s been seen to willingly give up his hold on a case just because he’s been shown someone else is the true culprit.

Vincent Edgeworth, on the other hand… is very similar to AA1 Miles. Heavily determined to be the best at what he does, “I’ve never lost a single case I’ve taken on.” Vincent did everything he could to ensure success, he didn’t care about the “truth.” His goal was to ensure the success of his dream company, to be accepted. The regrets don’t seem to stem from the corruption of his actions but from ever joining Myers to begin with. Personally, I have a difficult time deciphering whether he feels guilty about what he’s done: He did it for them, he did it for them, or it was because of them he did it? Vincent seems to cynical of the law due to his own actions but how that ties into what he feels now, I’m not quite sure. What’s certain is that due to his own hand in legal corruption and the torture he went through, he doesn’t place much faith into the legal system to truly bring down justice (or in his case: revenge). Vincent is someone who is willing to stoop to his enemies’ lows to get what he wants.

This is a very long winded way to if Miles Edgeworth and Vincent Edgeworth were to ever meet and have an honest, genuine conversation about the law, Miles would most definitely come out disliking Vincent.

[nyarmand]

Sibling Rights Time Final Results

Well, it's been a long and exciting tournament full of twists and turns, but all good things must come to an end. So it's time to announce THE TOP 5 SIBLINGS! Drumroll, please!

Coming in fifth place...

Lelouch and Nunnally Lamperouge

These two beat their final opponents at 62.5% in order to make it into the top 5!

Coming in fourth place...

Saki and Tsukasa Tenma

These two fought hard and made it all the way to fourth place before finally being defeated!

Coming in third place...

Miles Edgeworth and Franziska von Karma

It was a tough battle, but these classic siblings made it all the way to third place, beating their opponents for the position at 83.3%!

Coming in second place...

Raiden and Sunny Emmerich

In a shocking twist, these siblings made it all the way to the final round, beating Miles and Franziska at 55.6%!

And finally, winning the tournament at a solid 73.7% and cementing their position as the true holders of sibling rights...

Killua and Alluka Zoldyck!

After winning at 100% in one round, it's no shock that they'd end up taking the crown. Killua and Alluka fans rejoice--they truly are the ultimate siblings!

Thanks for voting, everyone!

[ao3feed-narumitsu]

This Petty Game We're Playing

read it on the AO3 at https://archiveofourown.org/works/48768556

by Axolotl_Supremacy

Miles didn’t even know why they played this game, why they danced around what they both so desperately wanted, both refusing to cave in and admit defeat, letting the other win. And truly, neither of them ever admitted defeat, at least not without a fight.

Perhaps it was the thrill of the competition, perhaps it was the satisfaction when they finally had sex, perhaps it was because they were both petty and refused to lose, perhaps it was all three and so much more.

Either way, Miles refused to lose. _______________________________________ Phoenix and Miles have some serious sexual tension, the fic.

Words: 900, Chapters: 1/1, Language: English

Fandoms: 逆転裁判 | Gyakuten Saiban | Ace Attorney

Rating: Mature

Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply

Categories: M/M

Characters: Naruhodou Ryuuichi | Phoenix Wright, Mitsurugi Reiji | Miles Edgeworth

Relationships: Mitsurugi Reiji | Miles Edgeworth/Naruhodou Ryuuichi | Phoenix Wright

Additional Tags: Horny Miles Edgeworth, Horny Gremlin Phoenix Wright, Horny, Sexual Tension, Sexual Content, Teasing, Ficlet, Smut, Hand & Finger Kink, Implied/Referenced Sex, Post-Gyakuten Saiban 3 | Trials & Tribulations, Established Relationship, Basically Miles and Phoenix being petty bitches about everything, including sex, no beta we die like men, POV Miles Edgeworth, Praise Kink, this is all around rlly horny, no sex tho sorry, Artist Phoenix Wright

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[doctorsiren]

Bro is forcing me to ask this smh /j/j/j

If Phoenix DID go too far and end up actually committing crimes what would Good Guy Godot (stealing this because the alliteration is silly] do?

Hey look you said it in our DMs and it was good so

Answer: he would take Trucy away, a billion percent

This is if he *actually* committed a crime, rather than what happened for the first case of AA4. Like this is if he TRULY went too far.

And I’m thinking that Diego wouldn’t defend him in court. Obviously Kristoph wouldn’t, if the crime committed was pertaining to him. Mia’s dead, Apollo wouldn’t be a lawyer yet…the only other living defense attorney I can think of would be Grossberg (and I mean OBVIOUSLY there would be loads more defense attorneys in the city, but I mean of the ones we know of. dude needs to call saul goodman to get him outta this one)

OR Miles comes to defend him, but the issue is that if Phoenix really did commit a crime, then this post-trilogy Edgeworth would want truth and justice to prevail rather than trying to win like he used to do

[askaceattorney]

Dear Ladynoir,

Imagining that such a thing exists, that would beg the question of how he’d be able to focus on my mind if he could read multiple minds. Surely, my mind wouldn’t be the only one thinking or even the loudest, assuming his Defense Team would be closer to him.

If anything, I’d take advantage of the faults in reading minds, while also presenting the evidence needed to prove the Defendant’s Guilt. 

However, let’s say the Defendant somehow can also read one mind at a time, making it easier to focus solely on my mind. In that case, I’d just have to plan out my case, write it on paper, then follow each instruction without thinking about what I’m presenting. It’s all about controlling what you’re thinking.

The truth will eventually come out and the Defendant is just finding excuse after excuse to run from the inevitable. No amount of mind-reading can prevent the truth from coming out. In fact, most Defendants confess to their crimes because they know I have ample evidence against them. So, I’d say mind-reading wouldn’t be an issue unless I truly believed Guilty verdicts mattered above the truth.

(Even mind-reading wouldn’t guarantee a win in a game of chess.)

- Miles Edgeworth

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This!! I do get why slow burn wrightworth is so popular and I personally prefer them getting together right after the events of AA3 (Miles being there for Phoenix during disbarment is a NEED okay?), but I totally get this. Sometimes two less than healthy people getting together will end in ruin but what about hope? What about the fact that you don’t need to be fully healed to be loved? What about communication and trust and working together and finding the truth? They clash but also fit perfectly in court, so why not in their personal lives too?

And gosh, Farewell My Turnabout would hit so much harder if they were together in the trilogy (and by that, OP, I assume you mean all three games). “We aren’t some sort of heroes. We’re only human, you and I”— Love does not “save someone”, it does not fix everything but that doesn’t mean you should stop fighting.

Hell, all of Justice for All would hit so much harder. Now Franziska has more reason to believe Phoenix “killed” Miles. Now Franziska’s deep hurt disguised as a desire for vengeance has a whole new layer of pain: your foolish love killed my little brother, so I cannot show that I love him. I must fight him and I must win and then he will never leave me behind again.

And when Phoenix says “I decided that the Miles Edgeworth I knew had died… At least, that’s what I told myself”, it would hurt even more because the Edgeworth he knew wouldn’t have abandoned him, and the Edgeworth he knew would have been saved by his love.

(Side note, everything I said about JFA I believe to be true for canon as well. It would just be amplified and more heartbreaking if narumitsu were together during the original trilogy)

Also it is so hard to find fanfics with this concept but this is the closest I’ve found, enjoy! (We need more fanfics with this premise please)

I Turn To You (For My Comfort) Phoenix and Miles get together post Turnabout Goodbyes

if i woke up (next to you) Phoenix and Miles get together post Farewell My Turnabout

Turnabout Groceries and it’s sequel Home for (Almost) Christmas (which is not finished currently) AU where Phoenix and Miles adopt Trudy and Kay respectively before the events of the first game and narumitsu get together post Turnabout Samurai

Wow this is such a long reblog but OP you truly inspired me.

I can certainly see why people are obsessed about the slow burn reading of narumitsu, the one where they wait for 7, 9 or even more years before they ever do anything romantic together, but. Their relationship in the trilogy era could be so, so interesting and complicated and yet so. Warm and full of comfort.

Just... Two traumatized and mentally ill men trying their best to figure out this relationship thing. Phoenix remembering what it's like to have a romantic partner again, after being betrayed, after being left behind, and now confronting his abandonment issues. Edgeworth learning how to love somebody, and now trying to express it, perhaps searching for his own ways of doing so.

Yes, they encounter a number of problems. Edgeworth gets this nagging feeling at times that he's too broken for a romantic relationship, that he's a parasite leaching on another person's care and affection, thus at times he acts aloof and withdrawn. Phoenix gets paranoid that he'll end up completely alone again very soon, whenever he notices Edgeworth getting so cold all of a sudden. Edgeworth genuinely thinks at the worst moments that the right thing to do is to just break up right now so he doesn't waste any more of Phoenix' time. Phoenix is anxious that one day Edgeworth can just disappear on him again without saying a word. Edgeworth feels forever indebted for everything Phoenix did to help him, and now when he notices his partner struggling he wants to do the same for him, but he doesn't even know why Phoenix is troubled, and even less about how to help him. Phoenix is less than honest sometimes on how he feels because he really thinks that his problems are nothing compared to Edgeworth's, but he can't help but feel bitter nevertheless that his partner isn't that helping. And then feels like a petty person for that bitterness and knows that he can't be actually cross at Edgeworth for not being a mind-reader. If truth be told, they both think that the other "has it worse", so they both make the same mistake of not opening up fully until something not very good occurs.

"But why didn't you tell me anything??" They both ask each other. Often. But the important thing is, is that they get to ask that eventually. Say sorry to each other. And then move on knowing each other a little bit better, and maybe not repeating the same mistake in the future. At least, the chances are lower now.

Would it be unhealthy for them to be together in that era? Well, depends on your definition of the word 'unhealthy', but I'm a firm believer that it's better to figure out things together, with your loved one, and that's what they are doing. Healing goes much smoother when you have mutual support. And sometimes hurt people can understand and help other hurt people better than any 'healthy' person can. You are in pain, and I'm also in pain, so I understand how you feel and want to help you get through this. It's all about trust and empathy. And isn't it the core of narumitsu and their relationship?

So basically, while it takes a lot of work for them to be together at this point, it is worthwhile. And that is why I prefer the interpretation that they have something going on already in the trilogy. I really want them to struggle, but make it work. I want their relationship to begin not in the best possible moment, perhaps, but to grow more comfortable and mature with years regardless. It is not ideal and far from the perfection, and that is exactly why it's so real and beautiful.

[ask-the-attorneys]

*Cameron then realizes she's falling in love with her enemy.*

*In her thoughts* ‘Seriously?! I'm fallin' in love with the guy who got my brother disbarred 7 years ago who I loathe so much especially during the first time I played Ace Attorney: Apollo Justice?! No, I can't fall in love with him!! I remember making that ridiculous promise I made with Edgeworth back when he and my brother was in grade school prior before the DL-6 incident. But Miles truly wanted to fulfill the promise I made with him.... The promise that we'll get married once I'm of age as he's about the same age as Nick. I wasn't lying but I'm truly in love with Miles. I could tell he truly loves me too, I was able to take notice since when he reunited with me and Nick when they were about 24 and I was 20. He truly didn't insulted me probably because he still love me. I often could tell because he had a habit of denying it, but I could tell he was lying. I am a master liar after all. He was there for me as much as he was for Nick. I know, Nick and our friends knew as they often tease me. Even Franziska kept telling me that I should tell him how I feel. But the problem is if I did truly fall in love with Kristoph.... I feel like I'm betraying my part of the promise I made and I'll ended up hurting Miles in the process... I will never forgive myself, but who should I choose? For now, I'll continue to mess with Kristoph's head.*

*Kristoph on the other hand felt a sweet victory on his part.*

*In his thoughts* ‘I admit she is an incredible dancer.... Maybe she'll be useful in my future plans... But I shouldn't get too attach to her.... But my heart wants more than just that.... I want so much more.... I'll admit she's truly an ideal woman most men would want to be...’

Kristoph sees a strange expression on Cameron's face. One of realization. He sees that he's winning her over but by having her close, he's risking his own plans too.

After a little while they're done dancing. Kristoph bows to her in courtsy.

Kristoph:

Is that formal enough for your party, Miss Cameron?

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I like the idea of Roleswap!Phoenix became a prosecutor, not because of Manfred von Karma, but to spite him.

Manfred values his appearances, at least in a professional sense, I mean, he was literally willing to murder just because someone put a blemishes - not even a significant mark - on his record, and it's likely this attitude expends to his reputation since he was so unwilling to hire even a private surgeon to get a whole ass bullet out of his shoulder. Since Phoenix's and Manfred's fundamental personalities clash so harshly, something someone like Manfred would no doubt see as incompetence/imperfection on Phoenix's part, I doubt he'd ever want to be associated with Phoenix in any significant copasity - especially not in a professional copasity, Manfred's pride and life's work.

I doubt many people would even know that Manfred has another child besides Franziska, let alone that Phoenix is that adoptive child. All his legal papers keep his last name of Wright with no interjection of "von Karma", all communications regarding Phoenix go through a mediator to be summarised for Manfred later (if they get to him at all, which they never really do). No significant evidence exists that Phoenix is even in Manfred's custody, unless you step into his mansion and see 2 very different children wandering the place.

And phoenix was almost willing to let it be that way, he went across the European continent to an Arts University (much to the regret of his relationship with Franziska) and was willing to let himself fade away from ever being known to the von Karma's name, remembered only by 3 people. Almost. Because one day Phoenix saw yet again that his father (the title brought bile to him mouth) had made the front of the newspaper for yet again winning another court case in Japanifornia. He sees these every day, he hears about him all the time from passers by around campus, and no matter where he goes he can never really see to escape the reach of The Manfred von Karma, World's Greatest Prosecutor!!! The thought makes him scoff; seeing, hearing, thinking about that man makes him feel so, so small, so belittled, like every other time he was in Manfred's presence which thankfully got lesser and lesser as Phoenix grew up and Manfred seemed to have realised that Phoenix was a "lost cause" to him, although that idea hurt him just as much as Manfred did himself.

"if only I could make him feel just as belittled at the meet though of my name!"... And that thought gives him pause. What if, what if he could! What if Phoenix Wright, Manfred von Karma's lost cause child, could surpass him somehow! Wouldn't that be so embarrassing for him, wouldn't it make him feel so small, so belittled next to Phoenix, to see that that "worthless" child he gave up on bigger and better than he could have ever predicted!

And we all know that if Phoenix is anything, it's single-mindedly determined! But instead of throwing his life off the tracks for his best friends future, it's for his own spiteful revenge - in addition to Phoenix's general desire to help people (in the form of the persecution of wrong-doers this go around, like he had wished someone would do for him when Manfred was still trying to mold him into who he wanted him to be).

So Phoenix studied hard, shoe-horning his way into the Law Division of his university without even mentioning his adoptive father's name once with his single-minded and seemingly sisyphean task of beating his adoptive father at his own game, in his own court, by his own rules, using his own merit!

What Phoenix doesn't seem to realise however is that his spiteful pursuit of comeuppance against Manfred is slowly eating away at his bleeding heart, and blinding him from what's truly going on in front of him. Don't fret though, because even from across the sea, across the country, across the city, and across the courtroom, Miles Edgeworth sees the truth - and he's far too willing to help snap Phoenix out of it!

Sometimes I wonder what if Phoenix Wright was the one who went through Manfred von Karma’s abuse growing up. Manfred demands perfection through discipline and preparation which is an antithesis for Phoenix’s natural talent to fly at the seat of his pants and improvise. 

Each person is affected differently by abuse and while I no doubt that a Phoenix “Wright” von Karma would just be as bad as a Miles “Edgeworth” von Karma, the former would be different from the latter. 

Miles Edgeworth as a child is quiet, studious and academically intelligent, something that would help him have a bigger chance at gaining Manfred’s approval growing up. But Phoenix Wright as himself, may clash more with the old man. 

Metaphorically speaking, if Manfred would demand a Mona Lisa from Miles as a child, Miles would paint it to a T. If Manfred would demand a Mona Lisa from Phoenix as child, Phoenix would create the Mona Lisa alright -through macoroni art. It would be the best damn macaroni art out there of the Mona Lisa but because it’s not the painting of Manfred’s expectations, Manfred would tear him down for it. 

If Manfred would demand Miles to solve a Rubik’s cube, child Miles would solve it in the proper sequence. Child Phoenix would also solve the Rubik’s cube but out of the traditional sequence and Manfred would be furious for it because he didn’t do it “right”! 

Now imagine, growing up like that. You’re doing what he wants you to do, because this is the guy who picked you up and raised you when you have no one else, but you can only do it in your way and it’s never good enough because it’s not his way. Phoenix’s childhood would have a harder struggle with self-esteem issues, anxiety and bigger stress living in Manfred’s domain. 

Then add the nightmares and self-suspicion and guilt of child Miles. (That is to say I am not making light of Miles’ childhood)

I have no doubt that Phoenix would be able to cope. Though not through his first strength: a big heart that comes with sensitivity and a lot of love to give. This trait will be seen as a weakness in Manfred’s eyes. 

No, I think Phoenix will be able to cope through his second greatest strength: his courage that can come in form of recklessness and bravado. Despite Manfred’s put-downs and disappointments, I think Phoenix’s ability to still “act” with a confidence that he doesn’t feel will help him bounce back many times. He’d still be messed up though. 

I also think Phoenix would also go down the path of self-prosecution that Miles did. Both Phoenix and Miles as children are idealistic. 

Thoughts? I haven’t completed watching all of the games yet.