#THEY WERE 'BEST FRIENDS' HISTORIANS WILL SAY

[themischiefcollective]

Haven’t stopped thinking about them

My print of Jayce and Viktor from Arcane💙 available on my shop

[absolxguardian]

@egregiousderp #especially since you can find writings of early modern and medival european men writing about the pros of being friends with your wife#they have no concept of romance just friendship and carnal desire#if you actually like your wife shes your best friend#so its culture!#<-absolxguardian’s prev tags#I CAN COMMENT ON THIS ACTUALLY!#because marriage wasn’t so much about sexual desire as it was about the duty of procreation and lineage for a lot of nobler houses?#it’s more tied in with the idea of status or duty!#you see that especially well in some of the chivalry movements#wanting to have sex with someone was almost completely divorced from the idea of proper marriage#seducing a guy you like so he has to ‘do the right thing’ and make your child legitimate was a thing#we have a very different view of sex and marriage post-birth control pill is my theory at least#it’s still super odd as an ace person seeing these people who don’t even LIKE their spouses as people but are so horny for them they marry

You're exactly right. My tags were just about one aspect of this different system, not differentiating between friendship and feelings of emotional affection towards your spouse/sex partner (romance). This isn't even getting into marriage, which was a thing that could be separate from both sexual attraction and friendship/romance. The idea that the birth control pill caused a major sea change is commonly accepted historiography (as well as easier to use condoms and for a period of time before HIV emerged cures for all STDs). A lot of our contemporary sex negative ideas are out-dated good advice when sex could be very dangerous (of course these ideas have forgotten their purpose. They become self justifying with their own value judgements, instead of practical advice about pregnancy being dangerous and new people causing complications).

Another thing that has occured to me since writing those tags is the idea that some contemporary historians have, deeming very close friendships between 17th and 18th century as "romantic friendships" (and thus sexless). This is done in a very no-homoing way, but considering this a way to make their relationship not queer is asexual erasure. But on the other hand, these relationships weren't considered deviant or even all that close to sodomy in their own time periods. But if their culture can be seen as not differentiating between romance and friendship, then what?

I'd put my guess for the emergence of romance as a concept in Europe as with the movement- romanticism- it takes its name from. But I don't feel like I know enough to confidently present this as a thesis, and I haven't been able to find an actual acadmic paper saying the same thing. Potentially you could say that courtly love is the first instance of romance in Europe, but you could also classify it as being about sexual tension and unconsummated sexual relationships. They did consider what they did dancing around the line, in a time when you weren't required to like your spouse. (And this is just Europe, but I know very little about this kind of intellectual history elsewhere, since I can only read stuff that has been translated into English).

I'm currently in a philosphy of sex and love class, and after four weeks I have no more insight into what romantic love is. But most of the texts we've read have been about figuring out a definition for love in general. The only guy who put forth an idea about romance specifically, has a definition that is incompatible with polyamory. But I am writing this right before doing the readings for our upcoming week that is focused on polyamory, so maybe I'll have more to say in two hours.

[guy who is aromantic voice] sexual attraction just makes more sense than romantic attraction. like ok, you want to fuck someone. this is quantifiable. it is quite easy to grasp what "i want to fuck someone" looks like, even if you have no idea what it feels like. romantic attraction, though? this is a nebulous construct which seems to largely be "glorified friendship with sex" in the popular imagination. what even is the difference between friendship and romance? the line between friendship and sexual attraction, though both can coexist, is that when there's sexual attraction present, you want to fuck someone. the line between friendship and romantic attraction, so far as i can perceive it within a heteronormative, amatonormative framework, is that it is... friendship where you want to fuck someone. what?

[mwah-so-kissed]

GOING INSANE RIGHT NOW

[ale-arro]

a picture of ppl in a qpr captioned "historians will say they were lovers"

[melljam]

goo really got samuel involved in his messy divorce with gun lol

[lesbian-art]

Roma Gewska (twitter)

[hsslilly-blog]

-> when your best friend finally convinces you to do makeovers together and you have a sudden revelation about yourself 😨😨

i've mentioned before that blair only cuts their hair after they transfer to berry high/meet autumn and here it is! this is really early on, timeline-wise. i imagine hair being very important for both of them (for different reasons, but still very significant) so autumn cuts blair's hair for them and in turn she lets them style hers in a different manner than usual. more under the cut

blair and autumn first get along for many reasons, of course, but especially because they can bond over their grief for one of their loved ones passing away very recently (and in the same manner too, depending on which version you decide as canon since pixelberry retconned autumn's mother's death. i'm still pressed about this) (<- personally, i adhere to the idea of her mother passing away from an "illness", so it's different.)

autumn's help quest is lovely and it's one of my favourite things pixelberry has ever written. i love how the mc sits down with autumn and helps her go through her mother's belongings, and i think this would be a turning point in blair and autumn's relationship. they get very close, very quickly. these are two teenagers that feel very alone after losing the person they were the closest to and they find each other right when they needed to.

oh, this is also when blair first starts experimenting with their style, which is the whole point of the makeover they're doing. autumn wanted to be a supportive friend. a beautiful canvas! i had so much fun drawing blair's chunky go-go boots. omg. i love shoes.

[brokemanthrash]

I'm working on a really long Ryomina fanfiction :') wish me luck! This fic is a SEES Ryoji fic that sees Ryoji (haha get it) joining the team shortly after Makoto does! Time loop shenanigans and canon breaks galore! Some mild Ryoji emotional torture (even though he is my favorite).

Currently, there are nine chapters. It's going to be very long dhshs hoping to reach a few more people who may be interested now that I have a tumblr!!!

Anyways 👉👉 my synopsis is very uninspired. I hope you enjoy anyway.

[florid-corvid]

every time I see a jayvik post I think joldren

[saeniia]

Portrait of my OC Suray (and technically Ryia ...well at least her arms 😂)

[v-tired-queer]

I want to get married and have kids one day, hopefully soon, but like . . . I don't necessarily think I want to be/will ever be truly "in love" with someone. I've always envisioned getting married to a kind and honest man, going on adventures together, being silly with each other, having a great time as best friends, but I never really thought about being romantically in love with this fantasy guy. I want someone who I'll be excited to walk through life with and who'll be excited to walk through life with me, too, going through major milestones together and cherishing each other, but like, literally as ultimate best friends. That's always been all I want.

And listen, I don't even care if this person is asexual or not. Sex, like romance, has never been something that caught my interest or was a big desire for me. It's nice for others, but like, I really just want some cuddles and hand holding, even in public, and best friends can do that. Maybe some kisses as a way to further show love for each other, but platonically. If they happen to not be interested in sex except for reproductive purposes, too, then great, but if they do like sex then that's fine, too--go out and have a good time while I stay in and read, just don't bring any diseases back for when we try for babies, ya know?

Just. A queerplatonic relationship that leads to marriage and kids with a good fellow Christian guy that makes every other person who sees us go, "Aw! A wonderfully in love couple!" but we're over here laughing like "Nah mate, this is my ULTIMATE BEST FRIEND and I love them SO FUCKING MUCH but like, no romo." Ya know?

Does . . . does this make any sense to anyone else??

[boonalina]

Mole x Ratty from WITW musical has potential to be a new tumblr ship, and that's why I made a compilation of it. PLEASE give it a chance!!

[the-patchwork-girl-of-oz]

The rainbow and pink, white, and orange hearts symbolize their friendship.:3

[rubylarkspur22]

Y'know what?

They're cute. They're big cute.

...

I may end up adding a good old fashioned wholesome wlw relationship to Burning Ribbons. Goodness knows these women need partners that won't abuse or lie to them!

[triopsarecute]

I'm sorry but what's up with Link Click's official merch?

[ge]

one of the many things that makes tangchung so tragically yummy 2 me is that during the war, tang bo was the only anchor chung myung had that constantly reminded him he was still human, not just a sword. and that there was a future to be hopeful for. also, for chung myung who couldn't/wouldn't imagine a future outside of war, tang bo canonically promised him one. FAWK!!!!!!

(specifically their plan was to go travelling/boating trip. chung myung also stated he wouldn't mind living in the tang household for a few years which... hm)

STOP CUZ THIS WAS ALL I WAS THINKING ABOUT LAST NIGHT?!?!(?! my priv twt thoughts on the matter..

i seriouslu feel like ripping my hair out.. even though the war was dire and they knew they wouldnt come out unscathed, possibly even alive since even tang bo voiced his worries near the end, they never thiught if they did die it would be in their partners arms, leaving the other alone to carry on with that burden… if they did die, im sure they wouldve wanted it to be together..

i knew they wanted to go traveling but i had no idea chung myung wanted to LIVE w tang bo in the tang sect……wowww… wow.. wowwwwww wohcnfjbbrn@/&&2!;$?&.@/@‘q THEY MAKE ME SICCCKKKK…. just boy best friend things…!!!!