#Stop erasing jewish nativity for your propaganda

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Oh this makes me so fucking mad

So SO fucking mad

You mean israelites, hebrews ffs you mean CANAANITES

THERE WEREN'T PALESTINIANS 3,000 YEARS AGO

THERE WERE JEWISH KINGDOMS

If the tatreez originated 3,000 fucking years ago it makes it jewish, israelite. NOT palestinian

This horrendous cultural and historical erasure of a whole ass ethnic group is absolutely sickening

This accepted activity of rewriting and changing jewish history is so fucking disgusting

This is the kinda shit that makes it so hard for me to feel sympathy and accept the modern palestinian identity

ITS NORMAL FOR NEW IDENTITIES TO EMERGE AND BE BORN, BUT ITS NOT OK TO CHANGE HISTORY SO IT'LL LOOK LIKE YOU HAVE AN ANCIENT AND NATIVE IDENTITY!

I Just fucking hope for the sun to blow us all up soon ffs

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I just literally saw a post where you support violence for the sake of "decolonization", expecting people to get murdered for the sake of "decolonization" while turning blind eye to all the damage they cause to other people and themselves and erasing native history, coloring arab colonizer identity as an indigenous one under a false name (who is originally an insult) and thinking that the actual natives-who were kicked out of their own homeland and came back-are colonizers.

Not only you do not know anything about history and the nativity of the middle east, you also don't even know the definition of colonialism, and im not even talking about the fact that you don't know the definition of zionism.

Yall screaming that there's genocide against palestinians after THEY started a war while 2 million palestinians in israel just.... Chilling, and some even serve the IDF and fighting in gaza, fully aware of the situation- better than yall pretenders. Yall know so little about israel and the way people live there and the whole ordeal that palestinian israeli just look at yall like you got severe brain damage.

If you think decolonization is violent then don't cry when jews finally stand up from themselves. If you think palestinians have "generational trauma" and have the right to act violently, then don't complain when jews, who have 3,000 years of generational ptsd, fighting for their homes, identity, language, religion, land and lives

Stfu, sincerely: a native jew to judea who's family got persecuted in the dhimni laws made by arab colonizers in our homalnd and the holocaust💖

The funny thing about Zionist propagandist accounts is that they're not even trying to pretend to be normal people. Every time a Zionist reblogs my posts and writes atrocious comments, their profiles are filled with them reblogging pro-Palestinian posts and writing awful things. They never actually post anything to support Israel or Zionism, which is quite hilarious. They're literally not even trying to hide that they're hired to do this. As I mentioned in previous posts regarding Zionists' comments, silence their voices by not interacting with them and simply block them. Focus your time and energy on boosting pro-Palestinian posts to amplify Palestinian voices and to keep draining the propagandists' money.

From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free! 🇵🇸🍉

[hellzyeahthewebwieldingavenger]

Okay but...the reason Peter’s classmates hate him is explained as him being a wallflower and a nerd.

 It’s not in-universe intended as being because he’s Jewish. I mean he does conform to those sterotypes (initially) but saying

 “The reason for this dislike is never articulated. It seems to come out of nowhere — unless you read Peter as Jewish, or as an immigrant outsider. Then suddenly, the classmates’ unmotivated animosity resolves into prejudice.”

 Is disingenuous and ignorant.

  Moreover multiple issues show Peter as not being loathed but merely the butt of the joke. Liz Allan warms to him a lot and the other students do try and include him once or twice but he rebuffs them for one reason or another (usually because of Spider-Man stuff).

 “When he has the chance to stop a robber, he refuses, on the very reasonable grounds that he has no interest in enforcing law and order in a society that has treated him like crap”

  Er...look. If you are an average 15 year old kid and an armed gunman runs past you (or shit if you are any age actually) it’s not unreasonable to not intervene.

 But Peter had the POWER to stop him. Easily. It’s evens tated he didn’t need to use his powers but instead just trip the guy up.

 That’s not ‘unreasonable’ and it’s cynical to say you are going to let someone dangerous evade justice because ‘society has mistreated you’. That’s selfish.

 “Again, the public antipathy to Spider-Man seems excessive and unmotivated — a miasma of prejudice which is mystifying in part because the comic is never willing to connect it to anti-Semitism or nativism. ”

 Yeah no again. The antipathy towards Spider-Man is justified as him being a bad influence on children and taking attention away from real heroes like John Jameson, son of...the guy spearheading the smear campaign.

 Jameson in the early issues is one big Frederick Wertham allegory and it’s not even disguised much. More than this later issues dive deeper and explain the antipathy comes from his own jealousy over Spider-Man.

 Once again, this is painting a false narrative.

 “Spider-Man is not explicitly Jewish in the early comics, but he is hated as if he were Jewish. Certain kinds of people, for unspoken reasons, are never accepted as heroes.”

 He’s hated because Jameson waged a propaganda campaign against him dude. Yeah maybe ALLEGORICALLY that is applicable but most observers have argued it’s got more to do with teenage feelings of ostracization and mistreatment by adults.

 “The original Spider-Man was suffused with a bleak belief that even a superhero couldn’t ultimately overcome prejudice”

 Again, not really that was clearly not the point although many marginalized groups (such as African Americans) have connected with Spider-Man moreso than other characters (including explicitely black ones) so that might have something to do with it.

 “The original Spider-Man comics were suffused with anxiety about assimilation. ”

 No they weren’t. The author is projecting that reading onto them. See the Romita era where Peter has a close circle of friends.

 “Peter swung back and forth between self-loathing and resentment of the culture and people that, for no reason, despised him. ”

 Not really. Yeah he got frustrated but he didn’t hate society at large, hence he fought to protect it. And he also had moments of joy, humour, sarcasm and a generally wide emotional spectrum. Which made him realistic and relatable which was the point.

 “Peter’s Judaism, more than half denied, is discernible only because it was hated. That tension is gone in “Spider-Man: Homecoming.”

But is it gone because anti-Semitism is gone? Or is it gone because the film simply ignores or erases Peter’s links to Jewishness altogether? ”

 It’s ignored because Peter in Homecoming is a white washed Miles Morales.

  “When Spider-Man was (half) Jewish, he was not loved. Now he is loved, but isn’t Jewish. Similarly, Gal Gadot, Scarlett Johansson, and Mark Ruffalo are all Jews who get to play supeheroes just so long as they’re on-screen characters are not identified as Jewish. ”

  Okay except Peter Parker in universe was literally not Jewish so there is no representation issue here beyond just portraying him in a way true to his original character. Which WAS a problem with the movie but not because it’s erasing Jewish representation.

  “The cineplexes are filled with heroes imagined by Jews. But it’s still hard, apparently, to imagine a Jewish hero.”

  Ben Grimm, Kitty Pryde and Magneto are all literally Jewish in-universe and at least one of them has been a mainstay of cinemas since 2000.

 And surprise surprise...Noah Berlatsky wrote this presumptuous article which states as fact what a character is about whilst ignoring all other context because he INSISTS on (the most damning) social political interpretation ever.

But what else would I expect from the jackass who said Superman is an offensive sterotype of Jewish people, the Hulk is a racist allegory for black people and oh yeah, authored a book literally called Your Favorite Super Hero sucks.

 Because he is a pessimistic, cynical, moronic, poorly researched asshole who hates on this stuff because he hates it...and presumes he knows much more than he actually does.

P.S. If Berlatsky knew wtf he was talking about he’d KNOW this was a white washed Miles movie and about you know....fucking Magneto ‘no Jewish superheroes’ My God what a jackass

[bigsistersyndrome]

i really was afraid of this post at first. i thought i could see your argument and it made me reevaluate. my immediate thought is goblins in media = bad. and i read some of the notes about goblin lore history and thought, y’know maybe im wrong, how can i tell? i decided, well, what really matters here is the voice of those oppressed. they are the ones that should really have a say in what they feel is perpetuating their oppression. so i went through the notes, and i of course can’t tell who’s jewish and who’s not. and i’m really not one for call out posts. but it looked, just on the surface, like a bunch of trolls who like to say “oh im just really confident with my opinion, watch out im blunt, haters can hate, im just controversial” which is code for im a dick and i wont apologize for it. like seriously, if that’s your bio what does that actually say about you?

i want to elevate the voice of those oppressed. i do. and i am not part of that community, so my voice is not one of them. but until i can promote those voices, i just have some things to say.

what i think is this: automatically reading characters as jewish coded could definitely be bad. i get that. i think its a good thing to watch out for implicit bias. like seeing a jewish-coded character and assuming they’re evil. but the problem is that the characters who are evil reference the oppressed people, not the other way around. on other points mentioned, i have to be honest the history is confusing. assuming that goblins were just lore pre-WWII, that doesn’t change the fact that these fictional characters and fantasy creatures were stolen. the personality and physical traits of jewish (and others as referenced) were stolen. they were used as oppressive propaganda, we can’t change that.

so, you don’t want to stop saying greedy is bad (its a good lesson for kids i guess). you want to be able to describe a character with a long nose. you even just want some goblin characters in your fantasy fanfic. how do you we go forth using these traits, concepts, and creatures without perpetuating these stereotypes? well we can’t do what we’ve been doing. the chronic representation of goblins exactly as they were rewritten by nazis is antisemitism. portrayal of goblins as greedy and evil is antisemitic. giving the greedy characters physical traits attributed to eastern europe is racist and antisemitic. isn’t it?

shouldn’t we try to think more about how we’re describing and designing our characters? shouldn’t we try to not promote stereotypes. shouldn’t we not make every evil character have physical characteristics associated with jewish people? shouldn’t witches not look like romani people? shouldn’t native people not be depicted as “savage” and bloodthirsty? shouldn’t we try to be better?

just because a person didn’t realize what they were doing when they used the character trope doesn’t mean they’re not participating in and perpetuating an oppressive archetype. just because a concept meant something else in history doesn’t mean you can just erase the new connotation by saying oh but i actually don’t agree with that message.

also, the benefit of the doubt only works if you no longer have a voice or haven’t had the chance to respond yet. yes the books were written 30 years ago and things may not have been understood yet by mainstream white culture. but jkr has had more than enough chances to prove shes not a total shitbag. she has yet to do so, instead digging herself an even bigger fucking hole.

and to that one person,

yes, saying that transwomen arent women DOES MAKE YOU A BIGOT.

The racist stereotypes littered throughout the Harry Potter franchise including the grotesquely anti-semitic goblin’s foreshadowed JK. Rowling’s later bigotry on twitter

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Coming back to thos pose to show @7amaspayrollmanager about historical erasure and cultural appropriation. Not bc i claim "tatreez" but bc of the arab washing and jewish erasure out of canaan:

Its not an arab region, it never was, and SHOULDN'T BE!! Bc arabs, their identy and language are colonial 🪄✨

those are facts, not accusations nor attacks. Again 3,000 years ago there were israelites and samaritans not palestinians. If tatreez means embroidery then its just the arab word for rikma, which is embroidery. And israelites did rikma✨ so the ORIGIN of tatreez IS israelite or in modern words jewish✨

Modern jews don't do it for a lot of reasons and one of them were the segregation laws that didn't allow jews and christians to wear certain stuff and ofc the arabization of the land thus bringing foreign embroidery and culture

Furthermore, beduins in israel and palestine has been doing tatreez for centuries and there are beduins of JEWISH ANCESTRY that they are AWARE of and they have been doing tatreez in the negev till this days which they share with visitors of any ethnicity✨

Israelis have build more modern culture that focuses more on diasporic and RELIGIOUS JEWISH values, embroidery is not a religious value thus it was the last thing they focused of preserving after being PERSECUTED EVEN CENTURY.

But in the 70's ruth dayan has founded a company of jewish traditional clothes and embroidery from all over the world, in some it included even tatreez dresses- again she specifically collected JEWISH clothes

But bc now the tatreez is viewed as strictly palestinian ARAB dress and embroidery jews don't wear or use it

Tho i PERSONALLY know jews who learn rikma, or in your language tatreez.

So yeah fuck you

Oh this makes me so fucking mad

So SO fucking mad

You mean israelites, hebrews ffs you mean CANAANITES

THERE WEREN'T PALESTINIANS 3,000 YEARS AGO

THERE WERE JEWISH KINGDOMS

If the tatreez originated 3,000 fucking years ago it makes it jewish, israelite. NOT palestinian

This horrendous cultural and historical erasure of a whole ass ethnic group is absolutely sickening

This accepted activity of rewriting and changing jewish history is so fucking disgusting

This is the kinda shit that makes it so hard for me to feel sympathy and accept the modern palestinian identity

ITS NORMAL FOR NEW IDENTITIES TO EMERGE AND BE BORN, BUT ITS NOT OK TO CHANGE HISTORY SO IT'LL LOOK LIKE YOU HAVE AN ANCIENT AND NATIVE IDENTITY!

I Just fucking hope for the sun to blow us all up soon ffs