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This person in Sideways' Discord server made this chart
[ID: A Star Wars viewing order alignment chart
Lawful good: release order Neutral good: chronological order Chaotic good: Chronological order with the Clone Wars Neutral good: Release order with Rogue One first True neutral: Chronological order with all TV shows Chaotic neutral: Machete order Lawful evil: Parallel order Neutral evil: Sequels first Chaotic evil: reversed order
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More Jedi as a whole having friendships with the general populace of Coruscant. Send post
#for the record I get people like the Martez sisters not loving the jedi#but I know in my heart that they're good examples of underworld citizens whereas those who live or work near the temple would have a whole#different point of view#cmon I want outsider pov shenanigans with regular people and their crazy empath monk ancestral neighbors#jedi order#pro jedi#jedi culture#Coruscant#star wars
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LET ME YELL ABOUT WHY I LOVED THIS MOMENT from Star Wars: From a Certain Point of View: Return of the Jedi | "Brotherhood". I have long argued that the "Jedi Code" is more of a meditation mantra, because almost every single time it comes up in supplementary material (it doesn't exist in the movies or TCW) it's used during a moment when a Jedi is trying to calm themselves down or meditate in the Force. And I have long argued that I don't think it's a literal guideline for how to live their lives, but instead a description of the Force. Because the prequels Jedi taught two different versions of the "Jedi Code": There is no emotion, there is peace. There is no ignorance, there is knowledge. There is no passion, there is serenity. There is no chaos, there is harmony. There is no death, there is the Force. Emotion, yet peace. Ignorance, yet knowledge. Passion, yet serenity. Chaos, yet harmony. Death, yet the Force. The second is from the Kanan comic, where Depa is leading a meditation with the younglings, while Obi-Wan and Mace and Yoda watch over them. So, if both of these versions are taught by the prequels Jedi, how can they both be applicable? Because they're not describing Jedi--they're describing the Force. They're describing what it's like to interact with the Force. That's why they use it as a meditation mantra! The Force itself has no emotion, it has no ignorance, it has peace. The Force has no passion, it has serenity. The Force has no chaos, it has harmony/ The Force has no death, it is the Force. Yet, when a Jedi interacts with it, they have emotion but they seek peace. They have ignorance yet they seek knowledge. They have passion yet they seek serenity. They have chaos yet they seek harmony. They have death yet they seek the Force, they become one with it when they die. Then this short story is about Anakin becoming one with the Force when he dies-- A warmth without temperature. An embrace without touch. A belonging despite isolation. A quiet that revealed. It's so evocative of the Jedi's description of the way they interact with the Force via the "Jedi Code"! It's the Force versus what you're bringing to the Force, it's about what a Jedi seeks in the Force--Anakin has no temperature, but he seeks warmth. Anakin has no touch, but he seeks an embrace. Anakin has isolation, but he seeks belonging. There is quiet in the Force. This is what the Force is, this is how the Jedi interact with it, they bring their own experiences to it and work to shed those things to find what they need in the Force, this is why the "Jedi Code" is structured the way it is and Anakin experiences that exact same thing when he steps into it. And I am legit emotional because I think of how much comfort and warmth and clarity the Force can bring when you let it move through you, when you let it embrace you, rather than trying to dominate it.
#lumi.txt#star wars#anakin skywalker#jedi order#jedi code#meta#novels#novels: from a certain point of view: return of the jedi
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Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order | Zeffo
#my screenshots#Zeffo is my favourite planet#(despite it being a maze)#nothing compares to the awe of walking round the corner and seeing that view for the first time#jedi fallen order#Jedi fallen order photomode#star wars jedi fallen order#zeffo#photomode
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Fives: "There's a lot you don't know about clones. No one knows."
Driver: "Oooh, very mysterious. I like a good mystery."
Fives:
"You ever hear the one about the people engineered to kill?"
"Engineered to kill their best friends?"
"Their leaders?"
"And they don't even know it?"
#the tragedy of the clones#order 66#star wars#star wars the clone wars#arc trooper fives#interesting thing is palpatine managed to orchestrate things so it could be said the jedi did commit treason against the republic#from a certain point of view#but that doesn't change the fact that he took away the clones' agency#because any of them asking for a solid reason for the order would have foiled his plans
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#indigenous tag#pro sith#jedi critical#star wars tag#star wars meta#anti george lucas#george lucas critical#renew the acolyte#indigenous pro sith#indigenous jedi critical#sith defensive#sith adjacent#star wars is built on opposing viewpoints interpretations and perspectives#learn to take opposing views for once you weirdos#order 66 was not a genocide#the jedi were catholic fucking psychos and whoever told you different plain ol’ lied#anti jedi#the acolyte#fuck the jedi#star wars
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Idk why this is a thing that I do whenever I get attached to a new blorbo but my immediate line of thought after playing jfo and js was imagining what kind of online creators/youtubers the mantis crew would be
#cal would be the most unhinged streamer and hardware modder#there are never fewer than 5 cans of energy drinks within view of his facecam when he streams#cere would probably stitch people who peddle bullshit diets and read them for filth#merrin would do occult or true crime and a side channel with like#stardew playthroughs or something#maybe hidden object games#greez would probably be the Dad Channel. how to tie a tie. how to change a tire.#bd would be the cat/dog with a bunch of trick videos#they all inexplicably get together to play among us or backrooms for charity streams every month or so#star wars jedi survivor#star wars jedi fallen order#cal kestis#cere junda#nightsister merrin#bd-1#greez dritus
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i really do think the systematic execution of the jedi has kinda sorta ruined all future star wars media for in the sense that i am always going to be thinking about the space empath monks who were genocided. there used to be thousands of them and now there's like. 7. functionally an entire culture dead. they can show me all the grogus in the world, im always going to think about how they had to step over the dead babies.
#:v#star wars#order 66#im glad Anakin got redeemed in the end and got to go to space monk heaven but also THEY HAD TO STEP OVER DEAD BABIES#😭😭😭#this fictional space opera for twelve year olds devistates me#reva also kinda changes how I viewed order 66#like it was always a bad horrible thing right but seeing it from the kids perspective.#Anakin was killing babies dude.#ugh Anakin my perfect horrible man#the thing is if obi wan or padme had been there they obviously could have talked him down#but they couldn't have been there#Anakin is the perfect you can't save him until it's too late#like yeah Luke was able to get through to him!#AFTER HE HAD BLOWN UP A PLANET!#they couldn't have saved him! padme and obi-wan I am holding you so so dear you did everything you could#Anakin I'm holding you but it's in a different way. a complicated way#love you as a character. you make me physically ill
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star wars fans when a show doesn't lick the jedi's boots a new shine: 🤯
star wars fans when a show doesn't beat the shit out of the jedi with lead pipes: 🤯
#star wars#star wars discourse#the acolyte#jedi order#the jedi are good and order 66 was not deserved#the jedi also did some admittedly shady shit#these two views can coexist#1000 years of Sith machinations will do that to you!!
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Happy May the Fourth, have an actual Star Wars viewing order
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"Because the Jedi were like stars. I've never seen a star, but I've been told they're out there. No matter how dark my night gets, they're still there, burning, making someone's way lighter. That's why I did it... because it's what a Jedi would do." THE JEDI WERE LIKE STARS. NO MATTER HOW DARK THE NIGHT GETS, THEY'RE STILL THERE, BURNING, LIGHTING THE WAY. COOL, OKAY, I'M GONNA GO FLING MYSELF INTO THE OCEAN AND SINK INTO THE DEPTHS BECAUSE I'M TOO EMOTIONAL FOR THIS. (Star Wars: From a Certain Point of View: Return of the Jedi: "The Veteran")
#lumi.txt#star wars#dexter jettster#jedi order#meta#novels#novels: from a certain point of view: return of the jedi
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Revenge of the Sith -> The Acolyte pipeline
is this anything
#star wars#revenge of the sith#rots#the acolyte#I already know the twist#so I am interested to watch a series that brings more nuance and depth to the Jedi Order#just have the classic Anakin quote 'from my point of view the Jedi are evil' stuck in my head#interested to see what a modern SW production does with the concepts from the prequels
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I believe that D9 is sentient.
Sidious is already recorded as deliberately programming the battle droids to feel pain. I believe he does acknowledge droid sentience and fosters it, if only to sadistically torture the creature. In fact, one could say his greatest little droid box that he likes to torment is his prized final apprentice.
Now, despite the fact that droid sentience is relatively canon, Star Wars has a bad habit of also believing that the droids are disposable. Maul as well. He is a monster in the little kids show, and that makes him by default a non-entity.
If she is sentient, then they can both be characters on that knife's edge; treated by all as if they are a thing, because the sanctity of their personhood is offered to the viewer as negotiable.
#d9#maul#sidious#The Wrath of Darth Maul#notes & quotes#maul is a droid#droid sentience is a fascinating little subject in star wars#i firmly believe it exists#and importantly.#I think the Jedi do not believe in it#but the Sith do.#for a sith the droid is a magnificent creation#a being of defiant willpower that exists outside of the Jedi's dogmatic view of the living force#and it is the most perfectly crafted slave#a being where you can type undefiable orders into its head#and it has the capacity to understand the cruelty of your domination#but is stripped of the capacity to resist#star wars#my hcs
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Except they're not all wrong and they're not "paid fanfiction." They were written with Lucas' approval and they developed the Star Wars universe in a dry spell that lasted years. The only reason they're claimed to be "not canon" now is only because of the decision Disney made ... and that was after it passed out of Lucas' hands. He never claimed any such thing. So as far as Lucas is concerned, they're as canon as anything else.
And it's true that at the same time there are story points that conflict. All that means is that you get to explore how they might or might not still fit with other pieces of the universe, such as the movies, and which pieces you think make more sense.
There is no hard core "this is wrong" statement that you can apply to published material. The EU books are just as valid as anything else. The Star Wars universe is NOT just the movies, whether anyone likes it or not. It's a bad faith move to blockade off totally valid discussion points just because you want to gatekeep the fandom. The books exist, people read them and like them, and they get to talk about them, and no one is capable of undermining that. You don't get to invalidate real SW resources just because you don't like the conclusions some people make from them.
At the point that you want to keep your headcanons informed only by the movies, that is certainly a choice you can make. But in the wider fandom, people can and do use all the material available to them. And they will have different opinions. You don't have to like them, but there's also nothing you can do to wipe them out or to somehow magically trump them because you like your resources better than theirs.
If you don't want to see those points come up in discussions then don't have those discussions. Or frame the discussion properly up front, and it can be a fun little exercise to only consider the movies.
This is just how fandom works.
I really dislike it when anti-Jedi and Jedi-critical crowd uses EU books as a prove for their points. Why they’re all wrong:
a) The books were written by various people who didn’t consult George Lucas about what they’re going to write. Everyone understood SW as they did. When an original author has never claimed such art as canon and actually refused it – this is a definition of fanfiction, isn’t it? Paid, yes, but fanfiction nonetheless.
b) Most of these books were created way before PT. They didn’t know about the Jedi things what we know now. It becomes quite hypocritical – I mean, in the EU the clones were enemies, not allies, but somehow I don’t see any claims ‘but the clones are enemies! The EU says so!’. Even in Karen Traviss books not all the clones have a personality, but we all ignore it now, aren’t we? She wrote her books before the TCW, not knowing how the series would spin the story. So EU retcon works for the clones, but not for the Jedi?
#I'm pro Jedi as much as anybody but i absolutely recognize the toxic nature of gatekeeping totally valid SW resources#there's no such thing as saying 'your positions don't matter because i don't believe in your sources'#the sources are published material. full stop. they're valid#you HAVE to do better than that to make a legitimate argument#if you don't know enough to refute the EU you can just say so#or if those discussions aren't fun for you to explore then don't explore them#nothing you can do can invalidate those sources or get rid of those positions#so you can either treat them respectfully or stay out of those fandom corners#personally i find it weird and boring to not entertain different points of view. they're all fun and they lend themselves to cool new#stories and rp and fanfic#the movies aren't great themselves btw. EU did SO many things better. (like the original clone concept)#but I'm not out there crying about the clones because i prefer the EU. i recognize that SW material is SW material#if people want to use it to headcanon all these noncanon clone representations then that's fine#likewise there's room to develop positions on the Jedi that are both supported and different from each other#and that's great actually#i don't care about the positions themselves so much as the wrong-headed idea of invalidating arguments because of personal beef with#with totally valid sources#commentary#Star Wars#also like. as mere fans your opinion simply doesn't trump real published authors. you don't have the authority or position to say published#work is 'wrong'. you can choose not to use it in your personal playground but that's all the power you get.#ordering people to not use the EU is not a thoughtful or well-developed position
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lieutenant gorn is one of the best characters in star wars. to me. he fell in love with a local woman. lost the woman. lost his taste for the empire. shows so clearly how in order to enforce imperial rule you have to view those you are oppressing as less than human and once you acknowledge their humanity once you love them every second upholding their subjugation is a chain around your neck too. he puts everything on the line not just for revenge but bc his entire life has become a performance in service of the downfall of something he once did and can no longer believe in. and not for a second does anyone suspect him bc hes played the part so well. and! importantly! he doesnt need acknowledgement or thanks or even his enemies (and they are his enemies) to know that it was him or why. he just needs it done. so it is.
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