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Ok, but I've been having this tought for some time now and I gotta share it:
So Tsu'Tey is just casually having a convo w/someone in the human lab while simultaneously holding like a almost year-old Spider in his other arm who is peacefully playing with his braids and at some point he puts a braid in his mouth, with which Tsu'Tey is not bothered by cos he does so all the time, and yknow the little beads at the end of his braids? Well, when Spider pulls the braid out of his mouth THEY'RE GONE and Tsu somehow manages to notice that and they just stare at each other for a good couple of seconds before Tsu'Tey promptly starts yelling: "SPIT THEM OUT RIGHT NOW, DON'T YOU DARE SWALLOW THEM!" and trying to get the beads out of Spiders mouth. Eventually he manages to retrieve 2 out of 3 beads with Spider managing to swallow 1 and Tsu'Tey demands the scientists do some scans on him and such to make sure he's not gonna like, choke on it in his sleep. In the end the scientists couldn't get it out, Tsu is stressed and Spider is just happy to be there (but dw he prolly like poops it out later or smt 😅)
Tsu'tey is stressed but Spider was clearly hungry, what was the poor little love supposed to do? Starve? You can bet Tsu'tey isn't letting that kid anywhere near his braids again :D Absolutely LOVE this idea!!!
ALSO, the fact human babies learn but putting LOADS of random things in their mouths, which means Tsu'tey has to learn how to redirect him otherwise Spider will in fact ingest something he's not supposed to. Bonus points if Na'vi babies have some built in sense to know what is poisonous and what is not (they're aliens, it's not impossible). Whereas Tsu'tey is just infinitely stressed going "PUT THAT DOWN!" "SPIDER, NO!" "HAVE SOME YOVO FRUIT INSTEAD!" And the scientists all just watch in silence and awe as this eight foot something alien BOLTS across the compound to tackle an oblivious baby, who is lifting some kind of insect he found under someone's bunk bed up to his mouth. They don't call him Spider for nothing afterall.
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#the fact i can visualise how Tsu'tey is looking at Spider#the absolute horror and confusion on this man's face#Tsu'tey's just looking at Spider like why would you do that#Whilst Spider just stares back at him blankly with his enormous little eyes#The moment of silence before all hell breaks loose#Tsu'tey#tsu'tey avatar#dad tsu'tey#Spider soccorro#baby spider#father-son shenanigans#this is a common occurance#Spider was definitely the kid that ate everything#including bugs#Tsu'tey isn't always quick enough to stop him#avatar#avatar twow
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tsutey haciendo de papa luchon con spider que es un torbellino con patas
#Tsu'tey#avatar#avatar twow#father-son shenanigans#baby spider#Spider soccorro#dad tsu'tey#tsu'tey avatar#dad!tsu'tey#father-son duo#spider#james cameron avatar#avatar au#avatar the way of water#avatar fanart#fan animatic#animatic#avatar spider#avatar 2009#avatar movie#avatar art
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What A Sight
Recom! Miles Quaritch x Recom! Female reader
Summary: The scientists said that Na'vi people get 'heat cycles' when they're in mating season. Now that Y/N is an Avatar, she becomes more sensitive than before. When she was pleasuring herself, Miles heard her and decided to check up on her.
TW: grammar error, minors DNI, 18+, dom! Quaritch, swearing, smut, fingering, masturbating, thigh riding, p in v, rough s3x, daddy kink, breeding kink, choking, milking.
Disc: this is my first time writing smut, I hope you like it
Y/N's POV
I can feel the rush of adrenaline inside of me. My heart is beating so fast, I'm very tense right now and I need to get out of this room. The team and I, along with the Colonel are currently having a meeting with the general. We are discussing a plan on how to find Jake Sully and his family. But right now, all I can think of is that I need to go to my quarters so I can be done with all of this shit. I can't help but squeeze my thighs together, waiting for the meeting to be over.
Author's POV
Miles was standing behind you, leaning against the wall while listening to what the general was saying. He couldn't help but noticed your discomfort, he approached you from behind and he lowered his head down right next to your ear, "The hell is goin' on with ya ?" He whispered.
You can't help but got more aroused because of his damn raspy voice, and his hot breath hitting your cheek. "It's nothing sir, I'm fine." you replied with an annoyed tone.
He let out a "tskk," laid his hand on your lower back- a little too low, "You better stop jumpin' on your seat like an anxious, needy animal, lieutenant." his face is so close to the side of your face, if you turned your head your nose would definitely touch his.
You didn't answer him this time, and decided to sit still. He moved to take a seat beside you and he put his hand on your thigh, "Yeah there's somethin' going on with you, doll... but you're not so good at sharing things, ain't ya ?" He chuckled lightly. You swat his hand away, lightly hissed at him. His veined hand on your thigh only worsened the situation you're in. Quaritch is not always this touchy with other people. But with you, oh does he love to tease & taunt you. Sometimes he'd snake his hand around your waist or when you're trying to shoot at something he will stood very close behind you, or even press himself against your back. "Eyes on the price, cupcake." He'd whisper to your ear with his raspy voice. But it's just a friendly remark, right?
You felt the pool between your legs, your arousal getting stronger every second and now you can only hope that he can't smell you.
Oh he knows what he's doing earlier. He wouldn't admit it to himself but he got a thing for you. You're one of the best soldier, very skilled at combat. Also, the way your hips and tail swayed when you walk, you wouldn't notice this but he always stares at you. You always wear a tight tank top and shorts because it is hot here in Pandora, and he loves your curves. He knew that it was wrong to think of you as more than co-workers. But he can't help it.
"All right, that's it for today. Colonel, I hope your team will be ready for the journey." Said the General. The meeting has ended. Quaritch nodded at her, you quickly stood after the General exited the room, and you headed towards your room.
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Miles was watching from behind, He knew what was happening. you fidgeting on your seat, sweating, your skin hot when he laid his hand on your thigh. It's mating season and not just her, but he, too, is in a super sensitive state. He can smell your sweet scent just from standing behind you. Watching you squirm when he gripped your thigh turned him on, he imagined the things he wanted to do to you. He's better than you at hiding his state, of course. 'Oh, just from the smell I can tell that it tastes & feels good,' He smirked at the thought.
After everyone went back to their rooms, he stayed outside a little longer, thinking about you. Specifically at what are you doing at the moment. It's getting late and he decided to get some sleep, when he walked passed your room all of the sudden he heard a strange noise coming from inside.
Miles' POV
"nngghh~ ahh... fuck..."
I heard it. And I know what she's doing. Shit, hearing her moan like that made me hard. I can't help but imagine how she moans my name. 'It's inappropriate, she's your co-worker.' My mind said. But it didn't stopped me from pressing my ear to her door. She was a moaning mess, and I can tell that she's about to cum. I really want to go inside and help her. Fuck, she's so hot I need to be inside her so badly. When I was pressing my ear against her door, it opened a little. 'Fuck, she didn't lock it,'. And right there on her bed, I can see her. Pants off, Legs spread. She's fingering herself with two fingers, while rubbing her clit with her other hand. She bucked her hips to the air while closing her eyes. 'What a sight.' I thought. I can feel my cock getting really hard. I was about to leave then I heard her unexpectedly moans, "Oh, daddy... oh, Miles~~ fuuckk, need ya so bad..."
Author's POV
He heard you. You whining his name while you cum. That's his last straw. He can't hold it anymore, he needed to fuck you. That is the most important thing on his mind right now. He's drenched in sweats, his muscles tense. He closed the door quietly, and waited a minute to knock harshly to it. After you put a pants on you opened the door, still breathing heavily. You're shocked when you saw him standing right in front of you, scared that he might heard you from earlier.
Y/N's POV
"Colonel Quaritch. wha- can I help you ?" I said with a stern tone, hiding my grogginess, my eyes not meeting his. I'm scared, feared that he heard me earlier. And fuck, I forgot to lock my door. It will be very awkward for us both if he saw or heard all that.
He didn't say anything but kept his eyes on me. He took a few steps towards me, made me back away and he shut the door, locking it. Then, it happened in a blink of an eye. He slammed my back against the wall, his hands gripping both my wrists above my head. His sudden movement caught me off guard, what the hell is he doing?
"Fucking let go of me!" I snapped at him, but he didn't budge. "What the hell is wro-" I was trying to talk him out of whatever he wanted to do to me but he cutt me off, "Shut your fucking mouth. I heard ya alright, and next time you should make sure that the door is locked and completely shut so no one can see you, Lieutenant." He spat at me.
I cursed myself, embarrassed that he heard AND saw me. I am too weak and overwhelmed to fight him back. His grip is very strong. The room became so hot, I can feel the tension in the air. Both of us like to playfully flirt and touch with one another, but right now it felt different. His scent is strong, his eyes wild and full of hunger. I have never seen him like this before, like an animal. "I didn't know that you're so desperate for me.. so.. needy. what, you want me to touch you? hmm.." His face is only a few inches away from mine now. I whined, I can feel myself getting wet again because of him. Of his presence in front of me. I shut my legs together but he forced it open with his knee. "Oh, don't act all shy now Sweetheart... not while a moment ago you were moaning my name while you touched yourself," he said with a seductive tone, with a menacing smile on his face.
Author's POV
At this point you're sitting on his thigh, your sensitive core rubs against his thigh. He can feel how wet you are, and that made him harder than before. You can feel how he flexed his thigh beneath you. "Ride, sweetheart. I wanna see you cum just from riding my thigh." You obeyed him, You start to move your hips, grinding on his thigh, your clit brushed the fabric of his pants. You started to move faster, chasing your release. At a time like this, you don't have any self-respect for yourself.
Watching you ride his thigh made his cock twitched, His desire to fuck you is stronger than ever. He never thought that this could happen. And boy, he's very happy that he gets to do this in his new life.
He leaned his face to your ear, he darkly chuckled, "that's it.. just like that... Scream my name when you cum, baby." He then started to suck your neck, that made you moan loudly, and trails kisses down to your collarbone. He doesn't like the fact that you're still wearing your top. He ripped the top that you were wearing and tossed it to the side.
He groaned at the sight, your chest going up and down, your nipples hard. He leaned down and sucked your left nipple sloppily while one of his hand left your wrist and started to toy with your right boob, massaging it.
"So pretty.. so delicious, all just for me.." he hummed. "Nggh... I'm so close.. Oh god.." you move your hips faster, desperate to cum. You can feel the wetness trailing down your thighs. "Miles.. I- I'm gonna- oh Miles! Ahh~~" you cum undone beneath him, you feel your legs trembling and your knees weak. You moaned so loud that he had to silence you by pressing his lips to yours. The kiss was rough and sloppy, but it felt really good.
You're still overwhelmed and breath not steady, but he couldn't wait any longer. He let go of your wrist then picked you up and laid your back to the bed. He removed his top then hurriedly unbuckled his belt, taking off his pants. He's completely naked now. You can see all of his muscles flexing. You can't help but to stare at his toned abs, his v-line, his slim waist... 'how can someone have such slutty looking waist?' You thought to yourself.
And his cock. It is so big you doubt that it would fit. His dick is long and hard, you can see the pre-cum on the pink tip. He noticed that you're looking and the worried look on your face, "don't worry sweetheart.. I'm sure you can take it," He climbed to the bed and hovering on top of you, "and if you can't, you still have to."
He teased your entrance with his finger, playing with your fold, feeling the wetness that he caused. You can't help but wrapped your tail around his arm, to feel him close. He can feel how you squirmed at his touch, "Enough with the teasing, daddy please..." you whined, arching your back lightly. He likes the fact that he's the one in control, likes to see you begged for him.
He slips his two long fingers into your wet cunt, making you gasp at the feeling. "Shh.. you gotta keep it quiet, honey. We don't want anyone to be suspicious, right?" He then thrusts into you in a fast pace, stretching your pussy. Since you have to be quiet, you can only gripped his bicep tightly and shut your eyes. Then you feel it again, the tightness in your stomach. Quaritch knows just by the way your walls clenched on his fingers, he stopped fingering you when you were about to cum. You whined and opened your eyes, looking at him with pleading eyes while he only smirked.
Frustrated, you tried to touch yourself but he tugged your tail and his other hand wrapped around your neck. "Daddy didn't say that you could touch yourself, baby. You can cum when I allow you to. If you wanna cum you'll have to be a good girl for daddy, yeah?"
You pouted and nodd, looking at him with glossy eyes. His patience is wearing thin, he moved his hand from your tail to rubb your ass and slapped it. "Use. Your. Words." He said each word by landing a smack on your ass. "Yes! Nghh... pleasee~~" you whimpered, unable to contain yourself. "You should address me properly and be specific, Princess." He landed another slap on your now red ass.
"Pleasee sir.. I need you to fuck me and make me cum... I want you to cum inside me, Miles!" You sobbed, and by the expression of his face, he seemed to be satisfied. He lined his thick, throbbing cock to your pussy, slowly entering. Both of you moaned at the feeling, you felt his tail wrapping around your thigh.
He's only halfway in your thight cunt when you whined again, "I- it's so big, daddy~~" you were trying to push him away when he gripped your waist and shoved all of him into you. You moaned, feeling the pain and the pleasure at the same time.
"Shit.. you're so tight, baby girl" he closed his eyes, feeling you in. He didn't let you adjust, he started fucking you in a fast pace, his hand still choking you and the other holding your leg to the side of his waist. It's mating season and his heat overcame his patience, he just wants to fuck you without mercy and breed you.
His breathing becomes heavy, ears going down and eyes rolling because of the pleasure, "Ohh fuuckk... you're mine now, baby. Shit- I'm lying to myself if I said that I haven't thought about fucking you, nghh~~ gonna breed ya good, babygirl.." he fucks you harder, his hand leaving your neck and pulled your waist to him so he can go deeper. The pleasure is too much for you, he's too deep inside of you, you're overwhelmed and you can feel your cunt clenched around him, about to cum.
He pounded into you mercilessly, hovering on top of you while your hands roamed on his back leaving scratches. "That's it, baby... good girl... takin' me so well..." he mumbled praises to your ear, you can only answer with loud moans and whines, the pleasure is too much. His hand found your throbbing clit, circling it in a slow pace. Your moans become louder than ever, he kissed you to suppress your moans while still drilling into your tight cunt. He then started to give little bites on your neck and whisper dirty things to your ear.
"Daddy please," you pleaded, you can't hold it much longer, not when he fucks you roughly like this. "Aww, you wanna cum, baby? You wanna milk me?" He mocked you, his thrusts getting faster and rougher. "F-ffuckk, Miles... ahh~~ I.. wanna.. yeah~" you stumbled with your words. His finger rubs your clit and he breathed, "Do it, baby.. I want you to scream my name while you cum on my cock," he said.
"M-miles~~ ahh fuck.. you fuck me soo good.." You let out a high pitched moan while you cum beneath him. He didn't slow his pace and this overstimulated you. "Fuck, baby... almost there.. fuck, I can't get enough of ya," he let out a few grunts and moaned when he cum his load inside you, filling your pussy with his seed.
Now that you can think much clearer, you realised that just had sex with the Colonel, your leader. You couldn't meet his eyes, you looked anywhere but him. "Hey, what's wrong? Did I hurt you?" He asked, concern written all over his face. You finally looked at Miles, "No, of course not. It's just... I wonder if- if this is just a one time thing" You softly said to him. He laughed at this, moving to the side and pulled you to his chest, holding you in. "What, you think I'm gonna let ya go ? Y/N, I missed my opportunity in my past life to be with you, I ain't missing it this time." You smiled and gave him a passionate kiss, that night both of you fell asleep in each other's arms.
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and why he's the silliest of the sillies, the goober, the goofier, the silly billy gilly rilly tilly pilly filly dilly jilly zilly xilly cilly villy nilly milly, the cutest the adorable one the tiny smol bean, pookie muffin cupcake bear i love him sm like he's so cute i wanna hug him and squish his cheeks and be his twin sister for life because he's so pspspspspspsps
#guys i swear i never stopped loving him#he's so onfjajhfhd i love him#he's so me irl#i wanna go on adventures with him and laugh with him till i can't breath anymore#it's been literally one year and i'm still so fucking obsessed with him it's not a phase anymore.#avatar 2#spider soccorro#avatar the way of water#avatar spider#miles spider socorro#avatar
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Neteyam and Spider
Guys it's SO important to me that Neteyam cared about Spider.
In my own personal mind, at first, Neteyam went to meet Spider because both Kiri and Lo'ak were obsessed with the human boy at the lab. He knew his mom disliked the kid though so he mainly went to keep an eye on him and make sure he didn't hurt his siblings. But it becomes clear pretty quickly that the kid is harmless. He's just quick and curious and frankly kind of entertaining.
I think Neteyam would remain semi-wary because for him, especially at a young age, his parents can do no wrong so he has a hard time reconciling what's he's seeing and how his mom feels about the kid.
In my mind I think the final straw for him, kind of the deciding factor on his personal view of Spider would be an incident that I'm going to write in my Spider Chronicles, but it involves Spider saving Tuk when she was a baby during that dangerous moment when everyone's backs are turned for a split second. Spider gets injured in the process and that's when he realizes two things: Spider's human body makes him way more fragile than he thought and that his parents are not gods, they're flawed. I think that realization comes early to all the kids except Tuk because of Neytiri especially's treatment of Spider (like earlier than other kids have the realization that like my parents are people not perfect).
And I think he takes it upon himself to try to make up for some of the pain his parents have caused the boy, so he helps him carve his first bow or maybe gives him his old one. I can see him replicating the fishing experience he had with Jake but in private with Spider instead or looking after him more closely after the incident.
I think Neteyam actually has a tight ball of protectiveness reserved for Spider but he's careful about when and where he shows it because he doesn't want Neytiri to hate Spider more if he overtly shows how much he cares about the boy. The other kids already do and he can see how much it irks his mom so in front of her and Jake he takes a bit more of a neutral stance to kind of keep the peace, which his parents don't pick up on right? Just more of him having this burden of being the eldest and feeling like he kind of has to take care of everyone's feelings.
I don't think Neteyam and Spider aren't close, I think their dynamic just has more layers to it than Spider's relationship with the other siblings do. Lo'ak and Spider are equals to each other, partners in crime, both always down for an adventure. Kiri is his best friend and has always seen him as himself, not human, not like he doesn't belong, just him. Tuk views him no differently either and is kind of blind or at least kept in the dark for the most part about the issues surrounding Spider. But Neteyam is painfully aware of how human Spider is, not in a way of we're fundamentally different, but in the way of he's different, he's treated differently, he's smaller than us, not as fast, and the mere air could kill him. He's just painfully aware of how much of a risk being human in this environment puts Spider in so he always has an eye out for him.
I think Spider would have a bit of a love hate relationship with how Neteyam views/treats him because of that. Like Spider has worked so hard to make up for his disadvantages in the environment and to keep up with them, and he hates Neteyam reminding him how different they are even if he is looking out for him. The other part of him loves that Neteyam cares and craves his attention. I think there's also the dissonance of Spider being older than Neteyam but Neteyam treating him like the younger one of the two. Part of Spider hates it because he's learned he's not allowed to be weak or vulnerable because there's been no one to take care of him or put his well being first, so it feels weird that someone younger than him is. But the part that craves care and attention also loves it. I imagine their relationship being very laden with that kind of dichotomy of Spider's fear of being vulnerable and his need to be cared for.
I think the only reason we don't see Neteyam and Spider be as close in the movie as he is with Kiri and Lo'ak for example is precisely for the reasons I listed above, just that the connotation of their relationship is different.
As he grows up, Neteyam finds himself having to keep a weird balance between being the responsible child, trying to give Spider as much attention as possible but not letting Neytiri really see that, and his duties as a taronyu and son of the Olo'eyktan.
It's overwhelming frankly, but Neteyam's disposition makes him keep quiet. I think he actually is able to relax on the rare occasions he gets some snippets of alone time with Spider because they actually spend time quietly together. Like Spider can be hyper and a handful but he's also able to tone it down and just exist for a while, and he knows Neteyam kind of needs that. So sometimes they just spend like 20 minutes laying on the forest floor next to each other during Neteyam's free time or kind of talk quietly about random things, maybe some human books Spider read recently. I imagine Neteyam would be quite into human literature so he gets it secondhand from Spider cause he doesn't have time to indulge in it himself.
When his parents leave Spider behind to the RDA, it kills him. He'd still had faith in his parents enough that they wouldn't at least, and no matter how he tried to rationalize it in the months following, it still felt wrong to him.
Then the RDA have found them and attack, and Lo'ak is like we can't leave Spider. I don't think Neteyam follows simply because it's Lo'ak asking because we know he does have some authority as the eldest and could have been more insistent about not going back. I think he realized that if they went back to their parents right then and asked them to help get Spider back, they wouldn't consider him a priority AGAIN, so Lo'ak and Neteyam going back for him now are really the only chance he has of escaping the RDA's clutches. So of course he turns back with Lo'ak. He already felt like he'd failed Spider a first time, he wouldn't let it happen again, not to someone he considered his responsibility and he cared for so much.
So yeah... they make me sad and I need more of them just talking or bonding like please.
#spider socorro#spider soccoro#spider soccorro#Neteyam#Neteyam deserves the world#Neteyam best big bro#He was just a kid#Avatar 2#Avatar the way of water#Neytiri#Jake Sully#Kiri#Kiri x Spider#Lo'ak#Tuk#Tuktirey
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#vine changed me like i cannot unhear this when i read it anywhere#oel.mine#avatar comics#contains pic#neytiri#spider soccorro#the high ground#avatar memes#contains link
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Spider x human!reader, when?😨🤰🏻
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Like people ship Kiri x Rotxo and it's ok everyone has their own ships, but they never interacted unlike Kiri with Spider. Then the people who don't ship Kiri and Spider just because they hate Spider for the usual reason that I'm not repeating but that is totally justified.
Reasons why I don't the ship between Rotxo and Kiri and I don't even like the ship that much:
-Rotxo was laughing with Aonung when he was bullying Kiri.
-Rotxo and Kiri have never interacted.
-The ship makes no logical sense.
Reasons why I like the ship between Kiri and Spider:
-They are best friends and have been very close since childhood.
-Kiri and Spider they took care of themselves in the comics, the beginning of the movie and the end of the movie.
-The way Spider looked at Kiri when they were in the lab and the way Kiri looked at Spider when they met again at the end of the movie.
-At Neteyam's funeral, they held hands.
-Kiri is the only one in the family who understands, comforts, takes care of Spider.
-In Spider's description (I don't remember the site) it says: "Kiri is a bit jealous of Lo'ak for his friendship with Spider. She wants him all for herself" (something like this was written)
-They're so canon you can't tell me otherwise.
These are not opinions, these are facts.
I’m back with another lengthy ATWOW post, this time discussing Spider and Kiri!
Their budding relationship has captivated me, so I thought I would list all the ways that the film sets them up to become a likely romantic pair in the sequels.
Before we begin, I want to point out that Spider and Kiri are not related through adoption in canon. That being said, I still respect anyone who is of that opinion.
Okay, here goes…
Evidence from ATWOW that a romance is likely developing between Spider and Kiri, and the reason why this is an inspired choice by James Cameron.
— First up, in every scene they share, Kiri and Spider exchange some form of physical contact. This ranges from casual, playful, and protective touches, to holding hands, to reassuring hugs. While most of these gestures are not exclusively romance-coded, they happen repeatedly, reinforcing the physically intimate bond between Kiri and Spider. Far more intimate than most. Here are a few examples among many:
she helps paint his body with blue stripes
he teasingly grabs her tail, which is a direct parallel to Jake and Neytiri flirting in the first film
she pulls him into a comforting hug in the science lab
this one makes me laugh—even the Recoms hold them captive as a pair, which is hilarious to me because there are like twelve Recoms to four kids, but for some reason they can only spare one for Kiri and Spider 😂
they stick close together throughout the Titanic scene, helping each other climb and holding onto one another
and the big one—Kiri places her hand over his heart after the final battle and Spider holds it there
— Kiri and Spider also have palpable chemistry. They share some very meaningful glances and sweet smiles. These moments are all protracted, which means that the camera lingers on them for longer than usual for maximum impact. They are also very playful with each other in the lighter moments of the film, which is basically the definition of flirting.
— They care for and defend one another to a profound degree. Kiri comforts Spider with reassuring words and physical touch (mirrored by the other romantic couple in the film, Lo’ak and Tsireya), while Spider rages against any threat to Kiri.
— Kiri calls Spider ‘Monkey Boy’. No one else calls him this. It is a term of endearment—her pet name for him. This differs from Tuktirey being called ‘Tuk’, which is just a nickname.
— A key moment in the film that develops their relationship is when Spider finds Kiri in the forest and wakes her up from her trance. This is an important scene for her character as it introduces the audience to her connection to Eywa and the environment of Pandora. Spider is the one who shares this scene with her. Speaking of meaningful glances and sweet smiles…this scene continues to establish their familiarity with each other.
— Another way the film sets up a future romance is by having their current relationship acknowledged by other characters. Jake, who was once human, knows that Kiri is very fond of Spider, who is human. He recognizes that she is depressed because they have been separated and she is missing him. It’s even likely that Jake has considered the possibility of there being feelings between the two of them, because he was once in that situation himself with Neytiri.
— A James Cameron callback: Spider and Kiri having their own Jack and Rose moment aboard the sinking RDA ship. They are paired up for the scene and have to fight to stay afloat. The stakes are extremely high, and they put all their effort into staying together. The angst was real 😭
Some reflective observations:
— Spider is intrinsically Na’vi in his beliefs and behavior, while Kiri has noticeable human features and heritage. These traits differentiate them from their own kind but allow them to fit very well together.
— They are a perfect example of the classic “society doesn’t approve of them together” trope. Similar to Jake and Neytiri in the first film, but even more so because Spider doesn’t have an avatar…yet. He is fully human. Not to mention the fact that Neytiri would absolutely not approve of Kiri wanting to be with Quaritch’s son. The potential for romantic drama is off the charts!
— And last but not least, the very existence of their relationship is poetic. Their parents hated each other and were on opposite sides of the war for Pandora. In spite of this, Kiri and Spider grew up together and are devoted to each other. It almost feels like fate intervened. A perfect scenario for a love story.
So, what makes all of this actual evidence of a romance developing between Kiri and Spider? The fact that cinema is a visual mode of storytelling. Everything on screen is put there intentionally and serves a purpose to the story. In this light, all of Spider and Kiri’s scenes were consciously written and directed by James Cameron, carefully performed by Sigourney Weaver and Jack Champion, and meticulously rendered by the VFX artists. They are not random, accidental moments. Time was spent planning and executing their dynamic in this film, which strongly hints at future romantic development. I went to see ATWOW with my sister. She is only a casual moviegoer, so I was impressed when the first thing she said about Spider after we saw the film was that he clearly liked Kiri. They may be subtle, but all the signs are there!
Also, I want to point out that unlikely/forbidden romances are immensely popular with audiences. James Cameron is very savvy to introduce the possibility of another one into the Avatar franchise after Jake and Neytiri in the first film. Unlike Lo’ak and Tsireya’s teen romance, which progresses swiftly and appears to be smooth sailing, Spider and Kiri are set up to mirror Jake and Neytiri with a romance that is far more complex and will take time and pain to blossom.
And I am very much looking forward to it!
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Ok but how about this:
Tsu'tey is telling Spider a story or smt and at some point he mentiones Sylwanin and, since the little bean has probably never heard of her up to this point, Spider, with all the innocence and wonder in his lil eyes, asks who is Sylwanin. And Tsu'tey, no matter how much pain and joy the memories of her at the same time give him, decides to tell him.
AWEEEE, just Tsu'tey getting a little teary eyed as he goes down memory lane and tells Spider all about the mischief he and Sylwanin used to get up to when they were kids. He tells him about their competitive relationship. How they used to compete against each other constantly, and how it drove the adults mad. How Sylwanin bested him in pa'li riding, so Tsu'tey got back at her by becoming one of the best archers the clan has ever seen. How both of them struggled terribly at learning English, and teamed up against Neytiri when Grace accidentally praised her for her swift learning.
At first, he doesn't tell Spider about the school. His boy is too young to know about such tragedy, and Spider knows not to ask. Tsu'tey speaks of Sylwanin in the past tense, so he knows more or less what happened.
Instead, meal times tucked around the fire, turn into story time, where Tsu'tey shares stories from his past. Spider is positively thrumming with interest, eager to learn about his Dad's youth, whilst Tsu'tey feels something in him healing as he talks about his first love and isn't immediately met with apologies and tight smiles. Spider geniunely wants to know who Sylwanin was and Tsu'tey is more than happy to paint the picture for him.
He tells his boy how much of her he sees in him. Her curiosity and burning determination. Her lovable personality, how drawn to her he was.
He smiles bitterly at the memory of her first clean kill. How she had pranced back into HomeTree, to Tsu'tey who had been saddled with helping his father for the day, boasting about how she was going to complete her iknimaya first. Out of spite, Tsu'tey had gone out the day after and completed his first kill by noon. That startled a laugh from Spider, whilst Tsu'tey beamed with pride. The hunter shared amused tales of the climb into the Hallelujah Mountains, how Tsu'tey had been the one chosen to tame his ikran first. How he had struggled, his ikran giving as good as he gave, whilst Sylwanin whooped and cackled from the sidelines.
He talks about stolen nights away from the clan, riding their ikran around the forest and talking about everything and nothing. He spins wild tales about trips down to the river, playing among the rocks as children whilst unearthing all manor of weird and wonderful animals from the riverbed. He talks about Sylwanin's interest in healing and how she took to her Tsahik training like an ilu to water. How she wrestled Tsu'tey into sitting still after he returned with his hunting party late in the evening, so she could check him over for injuries, ignoring his pouts and complaints. With all his love and adoration for her, Tsu'tey shares how full of life his childhood friend had been, how much he missed her now.
And then he pulls himself out of those bittersweet memories, to find Spider watching him softly, his expression open and understanding. They mirror their grief back at one another, quiet and companionable. Steady and healing.
Sylwanin would have loved Spider, Tsu'tey knew, suddenly mourning a reality that couldn't be.
#sorry this completely ran away from me#I was listening to hozier's new album whilst I wrote this out and got real deep in my feels#Hope someone is crying with me#love a bit of bittersweet angst#too bad Spider doesn't have a kuru and can't go visit Sylwanin#Avatar#Tsu'tey#spider soccorro#Dad!Tsu'tey
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Spider headcanons!
ADHD
Aroace and pansexual
He loves pizza. He would eat pizza every hour, every day, every second of his life. One day Norm gave him a slice of pizza. Spider accepted it jumping with happiness. "Give me that! Give me that!" he said and stole the slice of pizza from Norm's hands and he went off nibbling it so as not to finish it all at once. He got into a conversation between Kiri, Neteyam and Lo'ak in the village as he continued to eat the slice of pizza. While he listened the three talking he kept eating the slice of pizza staring at them. The three blue aliens glared at him and Kiri was giggling. "What? I was hungry!" Spider said as he spoke with his mouth full.
Even as soon as he got a little familiar with Quaritch, Spider asked him shyly lowering his head like a beaten dog: "Do you have some..pizza?" he said with puppy eyes (Lyle gave him a slice)
Spider has always loved to pay respect to the Sully parents. Even if he didn't get along very well with them and he thought maybe Neytiri hated him, when they asked him something he always answered with a joyful but respectful tone. He's so silly.
While he is technically the biggest of all but the shortest, he remains the most childish and silly along with Tuk.
He often makes silly faces even to make Kiri laugh if she's down.
He always stumbles. On everything. He can't walk straight. Is there a twig on the ground? He stumbles. Is there a slice of pizza that was probably looking for oh the ground? He stumbles. Is there a stone on the ground? He stumbles.
He makes goofy jokes but they're funny precisely because they're goofy. He makes too many jokes, even at inopportune moments. Are they talking seriously? He makes a joke. They all glare at him and he blushes and looks to the side. "What? It was to defuse!"
He can be a very flirty guy.
In addition to having a small knife and a bow, he has a stick. He is very able and strong with his stick and can be very dangerous when he uses it. He loves to spin it and once hit Lo'ak's face: "PLEASE DON'T TELL NEYTIRI ABOUT THIS I WILL CURE YOUR WOUND!!"
Although he proves to be very confident and sure of himself, he is afraid. He is scared and very insecure of himself. Basically false confidence.
He always kept his pain inside. He never shows it to anyone and hates talking about feelings.
He always try to be nice to everyone.
He hates bullying. He was bullied by some Na'vi and he suffered a lot. He still feels very ridiculous.
Despite everything he's been through he doesn't give up and goes on with life hoping for a miracle one day.
He can speak Spanish quite well.
Even though he is a boy who has lived in nature, many times he can be very intelligent and cunning. He loves science, technology and astronomy. Once he and Norm created an experiment on a flower, another fixed Jake's gun (Norm taught him how to) and he loves to look at the sky. He goes to watch it especially with Kiri. As soon as he sees a shooting star he leaps to his feet and jumps in excitement: "LOOK LOOK KIRI KIRI! A SHOOTING STAR! I SAW A SHOOTING STAR! I I'LL EXPRESS A WISH!". He points to the sky and then kneels down on the ground "praying". "I'll never tell you my wish! It's a secret!" and then he goes to tell it the whole world.
He's lazy. He falls asleep without realizing it in less than a second and then randomly wakes up: "Did I just..fell asleep??"
He suffers from insomnia. He oftentimes has nightmares and when he has them he goes to sleep with Kiri. The kid is too scared.
He listens to pop and hip hop music.
If he had a crush he would probably be very shy and would play with his fingers whenever he saw his crush.
Totally randomly sometimes he goes to hug anyone. He once hugged Lo'ak. "Lo'ak I missed you so much!!"
He has mood swings, lack of patience and fits of rage and panic. When he has panic attacks he tends to almost tear his hair out in horror.
He's afraid of horror movies. If he looks at them twice, however, they have no effect on him. Once they were watching a horror movie in Norm's room and Spider tended to look down, hug Kiri's arm or shelter his head in Kiri's arm. "I-I have to go to the bathroom! Hehe.." At the end he never came back.
He looks like a little angel but he can be very dangerous.
Love and hate physical contact. There are times that he craves it especially from Kiri, times instead when as soon as they touch him he stiffens and does everything to walk away. He feels uncomfortable.
He loves salty more than sweet.
If he had to choose between white chocolate and dark chocolate he would choose white. He loves melting chocolate in his mouth.
He's an iPad kid.
He can be very childish and literally behaving like a child. He hugs Kiri like a baby and a koala and stays in the hug for about 10 minutes. He makes little cute noises like a kid. When he was with Quaritch he loved to watch cartoons while hugging him.
Every time he sees something he likes, he gets "stars in his eyes" and starts jumping for joy.
When he gets angry, he turns red like a little tomato.
He blushes very often.
When he is down or very tired he goes to hug Kiri. She's his only strong point.
This is part. 1! I'll make a part. 2..maybe👺
#spider soccorro#avatar 2#avatar the way of water#kiri sully#jake sully#neteyam sully#neytiri#avatar spider#loak sully#tuk sully#miles spider soccorro
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any ideas in the Trudy Lives AU for when Spider gets taken by the recoms? her reaction? what she tells the sully’s when they admit that he was with them when he got captured? what she’d do after in the following months, planning, etc, and finally her seeing him again? sorry if this is a bit much, I am just very invested in what you’ve created.
YES thank you for asking!
I have actually been thinking about this for the past two days. I'm still not entirely sure sure about how it would go down, BUT! Here are my thoughts so far!
So I think it would actually happen on a day Trudy is like preoccupied with something back at High Camp. She'd had a bit of a bad feeling in her gut that day, but had elected to ignore it. The raid had gone well after all, and things were generally in their favor.
But then the Sully's come back frantic, Kiri is crying, and her blond little son (though not so little anymore) is nowhere to be seen.
Jake wants to leave right then and there to protect the clan, but Trudy forces him to stay to get a proper explanation out of him. He's trying to quickly say what happened but Kiri interrupts him and says they took him, the RDA has him.
And Trudy loses it because clearly Jake was about to leave without Spider.
Now here's where I have a bit of a dilemma. I feel like through actually watching Trudy parent Spider and Neytiri and Trudy being kind of friends, I'm not sure Neytiri would have as much hatred for the boy as she does in canon. Then again it could have been triggered again because of the appearance of the recoms. What I'm saying is maybe Neytiri would oblige Trudy here and go back for him or maybe not. I'm still debating but for the sake of canon let's go with the fact that she doesn't.
Trudy goes on a whole angry rant about what an asshole move it was to just let him be kidnapped and they have no intention of going back for him. Jake's like he's a tough kid and human he'll be fine. And she's like BULLSHIT, do you know why he's a tough kid? Because everyone aside from me made him so! And how could you say that? You don't know what they're gonna do to him. They'll do anything to find out where you are. He's SIXTEEN, Jake! SIXTEEN!
Again, don't know if Jake's friendship with Trudy here would compel him to make a rescue attempt or not, which is why my idea for this event with my Trudy Lives AU isn't solid, solid, but let's continue as if it had gone in canon.
Once she sees he's not going to budge, she's gonna be like, "I respect the fact that you're leaving to get a target off your clan's back. But I will never fucking forgive you for leaving MY kid!"
I think Trudy's spiel would have given Kiri the courage to be like hell yeah how could you leave him that's my best friend! I think the others might be too cowed by her parents' decision to actually go for him right then and there.
Right before the Sully family is going to leave, I think Kiri would run to the lab where Trudy is and tell her she wants to stay to help her get Spider back. Trudy is super touched, but she'd not going to make the same mistake Jake did and let a kid get swept up in this war. So she's like, "I appreciate it, kid, but I can't let you." Kiri starts protesting and she's like, "I can't drag you into this. The whole reason I'm pissed with your old man is because he's fine with Spider getting dragged into this, a KID getting dragged into this shitshow. And I'm not gonna do the same with you. I'm gonna get him back. Ya hear me, Kiri? I'm gonna get him back to you, alright?"
Kiri thinks that if anyone can do it, it's gonna be Trudy so she reluctantly leaves with her family.
Trudy's trained military and a practical woman first and foremost so no matter how much her mama bear instincts are raging at her to just go in guns flying to get her kid back, she sits and tries to make a plan. She ropes the other scientists into it because she knows she won't be able to do it lonewolf-style.
I think first off she'd scout out Bridgehead with the help of some (maybe three) Omatikaya warrior friends she's made over the years (if anyone has suggestions for names or personalities for them I'm all ears). But Bridghead looks basically impenetrable and she'd have no shot of getting in. Besides the whole point of Jake leaving was to get them off of the Omaticaya's backs so she can't really mobilize them to attack the base. She doubted they would follow her anyway.
So she waits, clocking guard shifts and watching. Eventually, whenever Quarritch decides to pull Spider out of the torture machine and be his Na'vi guide, Trudy starts tailing the recom group from afar.
She'd heard about the recoms but had never actually laid eyes on them herself, and seeing Wainfleet's and Quarritch's sends shivers down her spine. And those guys have her son.
For plot reasons, I think she wouldn't be able to make a move for Spider until they start raiding Metkayina clans. For drama reasons anyway. And besides, the recoms are all trained military as well but now in bodies suited to the planet. It would be no easy feat.
Now part of me wants her to go for it before then anyway and get captured. Spider says he won't do anything for Quarritch anymore if he so much as lays a hand on her, so now Trudy is also just traipsing with them as another captive.
The other part of me wants her to take her shot when the RDA is preoccupied with hunting tulkuns to send a signal to the Sully's. Amidst the chaos of the hunt, I think she would be able to drop down onto the boat unnoticed (possibly with the help of a Na'vi friend of hers' ikran and her own kestrel is nearby or something). She hides on the ship until she sees Spider come out of the mouth of the tulkun looking absolutely sick to his stomach.
Because of how long he's been with the recoms, I think they'd probably keep less of a watchful eye on him, which would allow Trudy to signal him and make a run for it under their noses. She nabs Spider and they jump off the boat together, getting picked up by her Na'vi friend along the way on the back of her ikran. It would be a good half hour to an hour before Quarritch even noticed the kid was gone since he had been busy plotting with the tulkun hunters. And he can't justify going to get them.
Luckily because Trudy's a smart and skilled adult, she'd have more spare exopacks and once Spider says there's a tracker in his, she gives another one and they ditch his somewhere in the middle of the ocean or something.
From here, Trudy would probably pilot her kestrel towards Awa'atlu. I imagine that she's such a good pilot, she'd long since disabled any tracking signals or anything from her kestrel and flies solo/manually (so the RDA can't track her). She's going there because as pissed as she is with Jake for leaving her son and running, she knows he deserves to know how close Quarritch is and what his plans are.
I'd imagine in this version, since Trudy got him back NETEYAM DOESN'T DIE AND ALL IS WELL.
Need Jake to do some apologizing and shit but well that's out of the scope of this question rn.
Hope that answered the question. If you guys have any thoughts about what I mentioned I was uncertain about, please feel free to share.
#Trudy Lives AU#Trudy is Spider's mom#Trudy stan#Trudy is my wife#I am Trudy's wife#Spider#Spider Soccorro#Spider Socorro#Jake Sully#Kiri#Recoms#Kiri x Spider#Sully family#Neytiri#Neteyam doesn't die
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I dont know where people are getting the idea that Neytiri is wary of humans simply because theyre human because the comics make it clear she's fairly aquainted with their prescence, especially because of Grace and her leading operations with the RDA diplomacy program.
I think its clear that Neytiri is wary of Spider because of how closely he resembles the man who killed half her clan and because she saw and heard how Spider was colluding with the RDA to some extent by the time they arrived to the Ta'unui clan. And once again, Neytiri was playing smart by playing dirty against Quaritch because she knew what it would take to avenge Neteyam and free Kiri, secure Tuk, and even save Jake.
Neytiri's relationship to Spider just makes sense to me because of everything she's gone through and how perpetually on the defense and out of her element she's been forced to be because of the man Spider is directly related to. For all she knows he'll grow up similarly, and its clear his sympathies and alignments are troubling. I dont blame her at all.
#oel.mine#neytiri#the way she's written makes her reasoning seem rash bc she's barely gotten to explain herself#but it still makes sense and its clear she's not a human hater just a hater of spies and war mongerers-human or na'vi#spider soccoro#spider soccorro
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Spider appreciation post pt.2 🥹💖
#i will defend this precious boy till I die#Spider is the best nobody can change my mind#Spider Soccorro#Avatar 2
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Live love laugh Spider (I love them all)
I turned random videos I found and some vines into Avatar characters:
#avatar 2#avatar the way of water#avatar 2 memes#spider soccorro#kiri sully#neytiri#jake sully#live love laugh spider#lo'ak sully#neteyam sully#tuk sully#rda#lyle wainfleet#mansk#miles quaritch
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Tsireya and Spider + Writing Update
So I don't know WHY but it's very important to me that Tsireya and Spider get along. Like in planning my big Spider project a scene with him and Tsireya randomly popped into my head and it is now canon to me. I just think that Tsireya has a very calming aura and I think Spider would actually be able to relax around her which is rare for him since he always has to be on edge. In my mind, they spend a lot of just quiet time together and Spider likes that she doesn't ask him questions so he doesn't ask her questions. Just a very pure friendship/companionship in my mind.
This is especially important to me because I want Spider to be adopted by the Tonowari family and I think as he's learning to accept the newfound unconditional love for his parents, Tsireya would be his rock, a presence he feels comfortable around as he learns that it's ok to accept this love and parenting that has always seemed so out of reach to him.
Like I just imagine Spider sitting quietly on the beach having been either overstimulated or upset about something and it's Tsireya who seeks him out, sitting next to him quietly, not doing anything. And eventually, he just lays his head on her shoulder, a tiny sign of relying on her, and he loves that she doesn't make a big deal out of it.
IT'S SPECIAL TO ME GUYS, MAKES ME WANT TO CRY!
ALSO writing update on big project! It is officially 15 pages long and nothing big has even really happened yet so I guess this is definitely going to be a really long fic. So look forward to it I guess?
Got to write Tonowari's perspective recently and that was interesting to explore so yay.
#spider socorro#Spider Soccoro#Spider Soccorro#Tsireya#they are friends and I love them#purest friendship of two cinnamon rolls#Tonowari#Spider needs to be adopted#Spider deserves unconditional love#He makes me sad guys#Avatar 2#Avatar the way of water#Spider fanfic#Spider fanfiction#Avatar fanfiction
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What I don’t like about the way Spider is written is that he’s written as trying to be Na’vi when he’s human. Yes, he was born on Pandora and stranded there, and that’s not his fault. But he was still raised by other humans. There are humans who are allies of the Na’vi but they don’t act like they are part of the tribe. They know their place.
Spider does not need to be Na’vi. The Na’vi do not owe him anything. Spider is not to blame for his father’s crimes, but as a human, he is automatically part of the oppressive group on Pandora. Therefore, the Na’vi, who are the oppressed, are not obligated to consider Spider to be one of them.
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And it doesnt take becoming your ally or comrade to be an ally or comrade to them.
Theres no such thing as being "trapped in the wrong body" or having an "indigenous spirit", so Spider can easily live alongside the Na'vi (particularly the Omaticaya) as friends of the tribe/family or trusted comrades.
While Spider acquiring an Avatar would make his relationship to the Na'vi more convenient when traversing Pandora, its not necessary and quite frankly (imo) would be super cliché and take away from that important aspect of allyship (the necessity to reconcile privilege and play a role in dismantling systemic oppression, but embrace and celebrate differences and syncronise cultural ties).
I think it would serve a far better example of what Spider represents if he's not treated as "a human Na'vi" or entitled to acceptance and membership among any clans, and, instead, depicted as a human that values Pandoran life and Na'vi as a people and culture out of respect, allyship, and cooperation as a human being.
#oel.mine#spider soccoro#spider soccorro#avatar spider#avatar 2#avatar the way of water#avatar film#na'vi#avatar discussion#avatar ask
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