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princescar · 7 months ago
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So fun writing Ryoko.
Most of the time she's :3 or <:3, but if you hurt someone she cares about, she'll fucking hunt you down
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aparticularbandit · 28 days ago
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So I bought Nier Automata and a Playstation copy of Danganronpa: Summer Camp.
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I have already played one of these more than the other, and while that answer may be obvious, I've played one more than the other in the less than 12 hours I've owned them on PS.
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The answer's still the same, but.
That's not the point. >.>;;;;;
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komeeder · 5 months ago
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i cant stop thinking about nwp logistics. when the survivors woke up from it what was it like. was it like when youre in a dream and it feels so real then you wake up and the reality of it is gone. do the memories feel like real life. and for the people that died during the simulation what happened to them while it was still ongoing...... were they something like ghosts like in among us just spectating? were they still in the code but just not in any way conscious, was it more like dreamless sleep or like a vague confusing and jumbled fever dream, when they got up did they have to be told the events of the simulation that they missed or did they just somehow... know? despite not exactly consciously witnessing it? and then waking them up...... we got 2.5 with komaeda but what about the others????? was it really easy for some and more difficult for others, and how fast did any of them wake up..... what were their 'worlds' like and what happened to wake them up. world destroyer took a violent route with komaedas but maybe depending on the person it didnt have to be violent?
forever thinking of sdr2
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funishment-time · 3 months ago
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i love when people have Thought Experiments about Danganronpa-style killing games, but
it's good to remember that "what would Monokuma do if..." or "could you trick Monokuma by..." 100% depends on what Monokuma we're talking about and who's participating in the game.
Danganronpa 1's Monokuma is simply a mouthpiece for a very much alive Junko Enoshima. she is doing this killing game specifically to break her beloved classmates, and every rule and action is for that purpose. she is powerful but can be tricked, a loophole that Makoto and Kyoko use to their advantage.
Danganronpa 2's Monokuma is the avatar of an AI Junko Enoshima. this Junko, and thus this Monokuma, is acting against a class she/he/they barely know or care about (source: Kodaka). the Remnants/77b are pawns to this Junko-kuma and he's nigh-omnipotent in the virtual NWP. all the rules and actions bend towards this purpose.
v3's Monokuma seems to be his own guy and Tsumugi's coworker at best. he's done a thousand of these fucking games and he's tired. he's impersonal and if ol' Mooger wants to completely break the concept of Danganronpa by creating a sham first trial, that's fine by him. he's here for the spectacle and all he wants is the spectacle, because he knows the viewers want it. like DR1's Monokuma, however, he has a limited amount of power and you can certainly use it against him (see trial 5). he also adds a few rules that don't exist in 1 or 2.
of course, if you're not invoking Monokuma at all...this post is null and void. ha
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woobifykamukura · 2 months ago
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my pet theory is that any danganronpa media worth its salt has to be a little bit about a corrupt bullshit orginization and how much it sucks. the first 2 games are literally about how the punitive justice system sucks fucking shit. first game shows this by every blackened having a Reason for kilking outside of "murder yaaayyy," yes even celestia, her desire for money is explained in depth from her free time events and how she grew up, everyone had a Reason. sakura's suicide was the result of societal punitive justice instead of institutional and how people who think their moral outrage is good bc its aimed at the "correct targets" will just end up hurting people. second game takes this even furthur and goes "in the first game, punitive justice was bad because all these people were victims of circumstance. can you keep those same morals when the people being subject to punitive justice ARE actual criminals of their own free will?" with the added part about the nwp explicitly being a rehabilitative justice program. kamukura's inclusion and honestly dr:0 as a whole since the whole catalyst was kamukura is just a little bit about how any kind of exceptionally smart child is propped up as Something Amazing and is basically forced to use that talent for the greater good despite any feelings the child themself may have about it or how stuck they feel or how traumatized or tortured they become in the search for and nurturing of that talent, and any child thats not that is constantly told theyre inferior to the former and Why Cant They Be Like That and are seen as lesser-than by everyone around them. ultra despair girls is also kind of about that with the warriors of hope and their backstories. dr3 and v3 fall short because they are not about that at all. dr3's future arc is a bit stronger than despair because it actually is about an institution that sucks and despair's feels too much like an interpersonal thing and All Junko's Fault when the whole point was junko just took advantage of unrest that was already there. v3 is about an Institution That Sucks however the institution is "what if you loved a murder game so much you made it real" which doesnt fucking happen. you can make approximations like comparisons to true crime, reality tv, and for a more specific example that squid game reality show. but they didnt even kill people on that. v3 is critiquing something that does not measurably exist and also it doesnt connect to even a single theme from the rest of the series. my other pet theory is that kodaka is scared of the number 3 and thats why the ones with 3 in them are like that
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the-local-scp · 5 months ago
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with my newfound knowledge of the remnants of despair consenting to the nwp, i have to imagine just what Makoto said to get them to agree. If y'all watched The Menu, and how at the climax Margot is all like "You didn't give me food, I am hungry, you've failed to be a chef.", that's how i imagine Makoto goated some of them.
I feel it'd be more effective on Kamukura specifically.
Makoto would be like "you're boring. you've bored me. you have all these talents and do absolutely nothing, you were supposed to be humanity's hope, and you've bored me. I thought i was meeting someone important, someone skilled. Instead, I've been presented a husk, dare i say corpse. Worst of all? *I* am considered hope now. they never stop calling me that, all it took was a few words and I've taken *your* place."
The reason i think it would work on Kamukura is cause its all true. Makoto may not have been officially recognized as ultimate hope by hopes peak, but in the midst of war he was the perfect substitute for the failed project of making synthetic hope. And with all those talents he cannot do the one thing those talents are supposed to be used for. entertainment, healing, you name it. Kamukura may be bored with everyone and everything, but more importantly he bores.
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kiwibongos · 8 months ago
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warning for ab/se & toxic relationships. and sdr2 spoilers duh
im thinking abt the remnants of despair. cause i hate how it just seemed to be like, "theyre suddenly brainwashed and then they turn evilll and they kill because they dont feel anything" like, i hate that. it feels so underdeveloped. it cant just be despair, it has to be deeper than that, i think it'd take personal angles and link with a lot of their own trauma, leaving them really vulnerable and deranged. so heres my own interpretation and headcanons for some of them
contains mikan, nagito, fuyuhiko, peko, akane, kazuichi, and brief analysis of the rest. keep in mind i havent seen the animes yet lol so this is a basic layer of it, but i just rly wanted to let this out cus i dont see it talked about. storing my brainrot here for later moments.
first of all i feel like the brainwashing would be a very slow process bc junko would definitely just manipulate everyone in her way to get what she wants. and by the time the world was plagued basically, all the remnants clearly had really unhealthy feelings related to junko specifically. they all love her, hate her, or praise her, but its all in very different ways that would be bc of their own personal backstories
we all know how mikan and nagito feel. mikan was constantly hurt by other people before junko herself, itd make sense for her to develop a very unhealthy attachment to her. mikan was extremely vulnerable and controllable, she would do anything for anyone and especially junko, just so no one is mad at her, hence why it got so twisted to the point where she wanted to keep a part of her inside forever. she wanted to be loved so badly, she would take whatever form of it she could. thats why it was so easy for junko to get her under her boot. now nagito has an odd love-hate relationship with junko imo (his mind is so messed up man) even if he praises hope in such a grossly obsessed way, the mf still TOOK her arm. i know he did it because he hated her so much and i guess to take power back, but i feel like because nagito had never really been loved, he wanted to try and feel what it could've been like out of some kind of confused desperation and fondness for her in a way, because his mind has no idea what those feelings truly are or what they mean, as hatred and love often get mixed up in his head and form this horrible amalgamation with whoever he meets, which is clear towards the survivors in the nwp anyway
fuyuhiko put junko's own eye into his own socket, and i feel like his relationship with her while in despair would be familial and extremely unhealthy. he is definitely one of the most fucked up to me. id say by my own headcanons though its heavily implied in his fte dialogues, is his parents are very ab/usive right from the start. fuyuhiko is messed up to all hell, he was constantly struck and under pressure but he had to be strong and perfect because he was the head of his clan, hence like his insane tolerance for pain. he had to make his clan, or more importantly his parents proud, or else he was a failure forever. so he clung onto that and did his best trying to be good enough for basically anyone. and even before despair he was in a really bad stubborn, mean, depressive state, leaving him far more vulnerable and more open to violent, impulsive actions as long as junko was smart enough to get him under her finger. fuyuhiko never knew what true love felt like (platonic or not), and when junko took advantage of all of that and he slowly fell into despair, shit hit the fan. he lost morality and he had come so attached to her to the point where junko was like a mother figure to him. he wanted her to notice him and be proud basically, it was moreso the idea of someone-- anyone-- being proud of him, but junko was his main focus of that by now, given his state. to him she was like the mother he never had, who seemed to be on the same terms with everything he had believed, someone who approved of him, so he wanted to make her proud, even if it was hurting him. fuyuhiko would keep digging himself a hole of desperation and self destruction, seeking more and more pain to test his endurance because it's what she wanted, and that became what he wanted, too, because pain is all he's used to. and because of that, makotos guess was right; he wanted to see her despair. it'd make sense he'd want to take a part of her, to see horrors she had witnessed so he could understand it, so she could be proud of him and part of him forever. he felt like if he did that, he would finally succeed, he'd achieve perfection, and he did. he'd done everything junko wanted him to do, while quenching his own thirst for violence itself, all via his own delusions. that was love to him and it felt real
as for peko she was definitely also treated the same in the kuzuryu family but more dehumanized obviously, so i think she'd feel a similar way; always needing to be good enough, but more specifically protecting the ones she cares about at all costs even if it results in bloodshed. i think she'd be a lot colder, forcing to suppress her feelings since she just has to follow fuyuhiko wherever he goes, and she was pretty much as insane as him as well so anything slid. i know peko doesnt want to be a tool, but she'd definitely succumb to the fact that she has to be one when they're under despair at the same time, and if she was going to be his tool, she has to be like a robot and just do what follows, because she didn't see herself as a person, her chance of being her own human was ripped away
as for akane, she grew up very poor, and didn't live a good life at all either (w/ definitely bad parents) but she always tried her very best taking care of her siblings in the past, despite everything. i think there was a lot of twisted familial love with junko whom she started to see as a sister despite being unrelated, just because of being a caretaker all her life, its just kind of instinct to protect anyone, but that just got mixed up as she fell into despair, and she would only protect junko, while chaotically killing anyone else in her way. she'd fight for her endlessly, she was one of the strongest, at least for a while, im thinkin she found her body and wanted to preserve it as much as possible by the end of everything, she still wanted to take care of her and do everything for her even if she had been too late. and with that, and barely any food in an apocalyptic world, the inevitable happens. akane would fall into a very hurtful spiral of self hate, that her starving was a sacrifice to junko so she could prioritize her first instead of herself, while also it being like a punishment to herself for her own failures and how she was failing to preserve junko
kazuichi always hated himself. he was bullied often, didn’t have a lot of friends going into high school, and he was very desperate for attention, especially from women. he’d be very notably attached to junko which would eventually evolve into romantic feelings, similar to mikan. he craved attention and validation so much, it left him very vulnerable, and kazuichi often grows attached to people who show him a sliver of kindness anyway, so junko would likely personally manipulate him and praise him, and they’d grow close, and he’d develop a very strong attachment towards her that derails into love and lust. and once he was influenced by her under despair, he would do anything for her. so, he’d get his hands on a lot of weapons, and go on mindless killing sprees, causing havoc 24/7 just to please her and keep her memory alive through despair. and deep in his mind, he probably truly thought that junko was his soulmate, that they were destined to be together, and he was fulfilling missions just for her, and in the end, they could be together
extra stuff i guess? as anyone would expect, sonia just became a corrupted leader and took advantage of her power under despair. her kingdom would try to keep her above it, but she’d fall into it somehow anyway, and probably had already been plagued by corrupt/unjust views by junko before, so she’d lead her people to worship junko the same way she does, and anyone who stood against it would be punished severely. mahiru falls into morbid curiosity because of junko and gets worse, given what she does with her camera, also both mikan and gundham would try to stitch junko up a little, and try to keep her from falling apart as long as possible. mikan is more likely to do that for her own twisted romantic purposes, but if gundham gets a hold of her before or after mikan, he would take her blood for himself, and most likely start a cult to worship her, all for like weird satanic purposes involving rituals and stuff. he’d also encourage his members or the other remnants to indulge in certain activities for the sake of praising her. gundham would probably even believe she was some demon from the underworld who granted him powers and chose him to carry on her legacy
also teruteru was just a little hungry. boys gotta eat
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therpgconnoisseur · 6 months ago
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can we talk a minute about attribute usefulness degradation in dnd? its a change that started in 3rd with the implementation of its skill system but its really dire in 5e.
to put it simply for those not familiar with older editions, your attributes used to be more relevant both when doing things actively and passively. Attributes where much more central to roll resolution (roll a d20 under your attribute to succeed), with the awkwardly named "non weapon proficiencies" (what are now skills) being either more of a slight bonus or a determinant on weather or not you could even roll (mostly for knowledge or profession based skills, you either knew about the subject or didn't) and some "nwp" being more similar to feats, allowing you to do a specific think like blind fighting.
Strength added to damage done by attacks and since it determined how much you can carry in a game where loot=xp that was much more significant, wizards where maybe the only class that didn't benefit all that much from it. In 5e its all but useless to characters that aren't specializing in two handed weapons.
Intelligence determined how many "NWP" you got, so even melee focused character benefited from it, as it gave them access to a variety of extra things they could do. 3rd edition kinda kept this but your class became your main source of skill points so intelligence was more of a slight bonus that was considered very sub optimal to focus on for most classes, 5e basically turned int into the academic knowledge stat, vital for wizards and artificers but otherwise not much use (there are a few subclasses that use int but my point is that it used to be useful for anyone).
Charisma is in a weird spot, it used to be the social skill, which included active social interactions (i roll to persuade) but also determined your ability to attract followers and their loyalty, pretty useful for anyone. In 3rd edition as social skills where introduced your class and even your intelligence had more of a role in how successful your character was at convincing people, with charisma being a bonus that got less significant as you leveld up, it influenced getting followers but only a little bit and that aspect of the game got very optional-y anyway. The designers seem to have noticed so they turned it into the casting spells stat for anyone who wasnt a wizard, cleric or druid. Every new class introduced had a 95% chance of being a charisma caster, this sucked since it was a useless stat that you where forced to take for many interesting classes, making the few intelligence based casters vastly more preferable (since that at least gave you a few more skillpoints). This is why most casters are charisma based in 5e i think, the design correction just carried over even though they made charisma a tad more significant for social interaction.
Constitution and Dexterity have changed little, but as the other skills got less useful constitution and dexterity have shot up in power, currently those two are the only attributes that everyone get a lot of value out of, the two adding a lot of survivability to any character as they make one have more hp and be harder to hit respectively as well as being the two most called for saving throws, even characters that dont use finesse weapons and wear heavy armor get use out of it.
Wisdom sucks and has always sucked, it is a poorly defined mix of perception, willpower and ...faith? that should have been gutted and split into the other two mental stats from day one imho.
This creates very uneven design for classes, and once you notice it it just feels like shit. Its, i think, the reason "minmaxing" got its bad reputation, its because the game encourages it to an insane degree, where as in older editions (and honestly most other ttrpgs) having a "dump stat" is making the choice of being bad at something, rather than be something players do because in most cases the stat in question does fuck all.
conclusion: uhhhh idk play another game and so on and so forth
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asaka-lucy-dr-rc · 6 months ago
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The series is not 100% clear on the matter. But a lot of fans have observed that there's a fair bit of evidence to suggest that Nagito wasn't lying about his illnesses, despite surviving his original prognosis. And that him insisting he was lying afterwards was just his attempt to keep Hajime from getting close to him.
There are multiple pieces of evidence in the various mangas showing his inner thoughts, that point to the stuff about his dead dog and the plane crash being truthful. And if he was being truthful about something as insane as a meteor hitting a plane at the exact moment it was being hijacked, the dementia + lymphoma claim isn't quite so unbelievable.
There's also his behavior throughout the series. People have pointed out that a lot of it is fairly consistent with symptoms of someone with fronto-temporal dementia. His tendency to ramble, impaired empathy, inappropriate social behavior, etc. His pale skin and hair, along with his skinny physique also suggests his body is quite sickly.
Sorry for dragging this out a bit. It's just that when it comes to Nagito's illnesses, a number of fans can treat him very hypocritically. To use Nekomaru for example, he frequently does strenuous physical activities that a person with a heart condition shouldn't be doing. Yet no one accuses him of lying about his illness. Nor do people claim that Toko fakes her split personality, even though Syo isn't a very accurate portrayal of dissociative identity disorder.
Oh, thanks for taking the time to message me! First of all, I want to say that I'm not specifically accusing him of lying, just that it can be interpreted as a lie because the math between the life expectancy he said and the actual time he lived after he was declared sick doesn't add up. I'm not sure about the EN fandom, but I think more people interpret it that way, at least in the JP fandom.
I also do not want to criticize anyone who thinks his illness is true. I was more wondering why there is a difference in interpretation between the JP fandom and the English fandom wiki. The Danganronpa Fandom Wiki says "While it is left ambiguous in the game, his illnesses and backstory as well as his school profile in Danganronpa 3". I don't have the official setting materials of the anime, so I'm not sure, but I did a search in Japanese to see if anyone mentioned anything like Nagito's illness was written in them, but I couldn't find any mention of it. So I just said that the source of that line is vague, but that's all. I mentioned that more people in the JP fandom have the interpretation that his illness was a lie, but of course there are various fanfic made under the assumption that the story of his illness is true! I am a fan who played DR2 almost immediately after it was released in Japan, and if I remember correctly, there was a mixture of both interpretations among those who finished the game at the beginning, and gradually fans accepted the one that the illness was probably a lie, because the life expectancy he talked about and the time when the school trip in NWP started did not match. (I guess a lot of fans just wanted Nagito to live).
Sorry for repeating almost the same sentence, but I know there are people in both the JP and EN fandoms who would interpret it as real, and I'm not trying to determine which is canon at all. In the post I commented on, the OP seemed to be considering which way to interpret it, so I thought telling about the interpretation in the JP fandom might be a kind of clue to the story. I don't want to criticize those who interpret his illness as true.
However, as for the information written on the fandom wiki, I want to know the source! If anyone knows where the information is written, please let me know!
I didn't mention some of the things you wrote, but I hope you understand that's because I don't want to be particularly critical or anything like that. (And since we were originally only talking about Nagito, I don't intend to expand the discussion to other characters.)
Again, thanks for taking the time to message me!
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hopeymchope · 10 months ago
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Is it weird that I actually prefer DR3’s explanation for how Chiaki was created over DR2 implying that Chihiro created Chiaki? It more sense to have the memories Class 77-B have for Chiaki, be used as basis for which an Observer can be built from.
And while Chihiro creating an Alter Ego ai for the NWP makes sense (a completely separate Alter Ego from the one he eventually makes in DR1) I don’t really buy Chihiro is able to create three separate ai’s with distinct personalities and roles for the NWP. Especially since Chiaki and Usami are therapy ai and Chihiro definitely doesn’t have any therapeutic knowledge.
Plus, making three ai’s a lot of work for just one person and this isn’t a project he owns, he’s only collaborating with the development along with many other people so I imagine Chihiro would only be here to develop the Alter Ego ai and the development of an Observer system would be handled by other people.
I personally believe "Alter Ego" is just multiple copies of a single A.I. program — once that we happen to see put to work in a variety of different situations/ways.
But other than that, I think I can generally agree with you. Maybe not for the exact same reasons, but I still agree with your concluesions.
I understand that we're supposed to believe Fujisaki, Gekkogahara, and Matsuda all worked together to develop the Neo World Program. That's why we see Gekkogahara's personal avatar, Usami, working as a therapeutic A.I. program within the NWP. But once you have Fujisaki developing Alter Ego (based on themselves) and then co-developing Usami (based on Gekkogahara), the thing about the Chiaki is: Why would Chihiro develop two separate therapy A.I.s for the same program? And then, despite basing their previous A.I.s on specific people, how and/or why would Chihiro create a third A.I. that somehow has its own completely unique, distinct personality that ISN'T based on anybody else?
For those reasons, I think the justification for Chiaki's uniqueness and distinct function given in DR3 is actually better than going without those explanations.
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ovidiomedes · 2 years ago
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in a good example of good intentions with bad consequences i really love how dr3 portrays the brief dynamic between the great gozu and makoto.
bc as soon as the killing game starts and munakata and sakakura want makoto to die, gozu immediately interferes and starts fighting them to give makoto a chance to escape.
aside from aoi, kyoko and miaya (all people who have a long history with makoto and miaya who actually helped makoto w the nwp) its safe to assume gozu only know what he's been told about makoto.
and yet he still chooses to help, but in an ironic twist he hears first hand one of makoto's speeches and he reaffirms makoto's role as the ultimate hope. he tells him everyone is looking to him and that they're all counting on him
again. good intentions, bad consequences. bc i always thought that those words from gozu are a lot of what makes makoto spiral in dr3 specifically. he has to be a hero. he has to be the ultimate hope. gozu said how much everyone was counting on him, and then fucking DIED
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buffkitties · 3 months ago
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I generally agree for the most part on that. Though I am okay with the idea that his pet dog when he was little was named "Lucky". Like I headcanon a gradual shift in Nagito's mindset. Where early on as a kid he thinks maybe he does have good luck, despite some the occasional misfortune. To around Hope's Peak (and during the NWP) where he's becoming increasingly doubtful and desperately clinging to the idea of there being a balancing act. To becoming extremely jaded post-Tragedy, concluding that there is no cycle and that he's just got endless bad luck. With the apparent good luck simply being some cosmic trolling to get his hopes back up. At which point, yeah hearing people say he's lucky is something that deeply aggravates him. To the point of rejecting his Ultimate title.
(Forgot to answer earlier) I'd honestly say that Komaeda post-tragedy would abandon the idea of talent, to be honest. Aside from the worry and familiar rituals to him, like avoiding specific scenarios and straying away from crowds, plus removing himself from situations the moment something worrying happens—since he cannot escape it, he can learn to live with it (like he has already done). I doubt he'll ever let go of his luck completely, but Komaeda states all the time that he finds his talent disappointing in the very least and expresses discomfort for it, and he doesn't exactly seem to consider himself "lucky" in a good sense, but rather just a title, or obligation.
Also, speaking of his childhood dog, I don't really care about it. I was just referring to people making sentimental or important things in his life a reference to luck, such as wedding rings, or someone and something he loves being named after luck in any shape or form, because there is no sentiment in luck for him except that he is cursed with it and feels like he has to worry about it, because if he doesn't, something surely will happen, and he'd rather be prepared for a situation in which it does since he already knows there's misfortune following him on every step.
As a kid, Komaeda would undoubtedly consider himself "fortunate" in some way, but that would quickly dissolve into trauma and paranoia as soon as he noticed that anywhere he goes and something good happens to him, an awful thing follows or someone gets hurt, and that the only one who gains anything from it is him.
Up until attending HPA, he admitted he didn't mind that sort of lifestyle since he most likely learned how to handle such things with isolation and strict rules, not a healthy habit but a bearable one, where he can live without too much stress, and anybody getting hurt.
However, when HPA invited him, that feeling of safety was gone due to his diagnosis and the fact that he was welcome to attend a school that he could provide nothing, nor even gain anything from himself because he was going to die, and because his talent wasn't a thing he thought the school would want. I doubt that he really thought of himself as truly lucky since all of those things were meaningless and pointless, and I believe that the only time he genuinely considered he had "good luck" coming to the academy was during the killing game because his life could finally amount to something, and since he would die anyway, he could use that to birth hope, as their world often preaches that you will never be something unless you can do just that.
You can also see him refer to his luck as a bad thing a lot. He genuinely thinks that he's unlucky, and when he uses the word "luck," it's almost never in a positive way, but rather because that means something bad is coming.
EX: "I feel so lucky right now that a few people could die!"
I wouldn't say that being called lucky would aggravate him, but he definitely doesn't enjoy it, and it stresses him out, as we can see because the ONLY times he talks about luck is when he's uncomfortable, worried, or somebody else mentioned it, so he talks about in the only way he sees it, which is a nuisance for him.
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aparticularbandit · 15 days ago
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do you think that if Yasuke existed in the v3 universe, he would've invented the flashback light? (thinking about how his memory manipulation research was so important to the og games that it most likely inspired it in canon v3)
I'm not sure.
Yasuke's primary goal was memory retention, as spurred by his mom's loss of her memories, and while the situation with Junko (and the use of NWP in DR2) used his research for the opposite effect, I don't think those uses were his goal. (Junko caused the reversal re: maximum despair, and NWP did originally get used to help the DR1 survivors regain their memories of the two years they lost re: DR1, so it did have other uses before Makoto decided to pull a...actually, I guess a Yasuke, by removing memories to revert characters to their previous selves to try and make them better (eerily similar to Ryoko there, huh. Didn't see that before. FUN.))
The flashback light seems to not really do either, since it doesn't cause the V3 characters to regain memories but rewrites over their old memories with new ones. And even then, given that their minds were mostly blank slates prior to the rewrite, it seems to me that the flashback light is more of a memory imprint device...or a form of, ah, for lack of a better term re: DR universe, brainwashing.
Ryota's (and Junko's, in Despair Arc) animation has the power to rewrite over a person's normal etc. and lead them to do things and be people they wouldn't be in normal situations - re: Remnants; re: the use of the Despair video used on the Reserve Course and the Future Arc Killing Game victims.
To me, the flashback light feels like an improved (and more specific) version of that - something that is seen that rewrites a person (or multiple people's) brains to follow something designed specifically by another person.
A form of control, depending on how exact you think Tsumugi scripted all the things. (Did the flashback light download the scripts and motivations and etc. into them when it was used? Or did it only implant false realities?)
((Potentially it could have combined Ryota's and Yasuke's research, since it technically tampers with memories, but given that Yasuke's focus would have been restoration/permanence of real memories (and memory wiping, unfortunately), I don't think his research would have been used for the implanting bit. So maybe a mix of both? Since the first flashback light erased the Prologue memories?))
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eggs-can-draw · 1 year ago
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tell me more about the izuru kokichi family au im so curious about it !!
hee hee hah hah tee-hee this got a bit long whoopsie. listen to Never Love An Anchor by the crane wives for full effect.
OK GAMER BEFORE I GET INTO THIS CAN OF WORMS I GOTTA ESTABLISH SOMETHING. This takes place in a larger au that I usually either call "The AU" or in select cases, "The Naegamigiri Au". The concept is pretty simple (v3 kids are the kids of the thh survivors and sdr2 cast) but I ended up playing with a few elements as well. (like v3 plot integration) The big important detail for Kokichi and Kamukura: The tragedy (specifically the gap of time between udg and sdr2) is longer by a few years. This is because of one simple single thing. A little guy. Kokichi. BACKSTORY through a convoluted course of events that are honestly as Up To Interpretation as I'm legally allowed, Kamukura and the trans woman of all time (and cowgirl), lovingly dubbed Kokichi MoM (who only exists because I wanted her to be a mysterious 3rd party entity, who she is is completely up to interpretation but the cowgirl part is important) did that thing consenting adults do and suddenly Kamukura has a child. So it's the lovely dynamic of "oh god I actually have something I CARE about can I really go through with this" and "hi I am five years old". Kid who has spent his entire life on the run and loves his dad very very much. He believes its selfish because he loves kokichi but doesn't really understand that he loves kokichi, so he sees his own attachment as irrational and therefore bad for both himself and Kokichi. Every childcare talent he has is telling him he can't provide a good life for this kid in their current situation but despite that he stalls because fuck he loves this kid he wants to keep this kid. He's so conflicted but decides maybe fixing the lobotomy could put this kid in better hands. and then we have hajime who has only been out of the nwp for maybe a week or two and suddenly there's a child on his doorstep who is supposedly his. (but a part of him already knew that) so yeah. it makes me a little insane.
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funishment-time · 9 months ago
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17! 17! 17!
!!! HELL YEAH !!!
17. List five headcanons for your favorite characters!
the arrival of the Monokubs at a non-despair HPA causes a lot of chaos, as everyone thinks Junko built the kubs to make fun of them specifically. in fact, Junko didn't build the kubs at all, but she lets them "live" because their existence causes everyone despair (including her and her favorite son, Monokuma)
this may be a sin to some, but i actually prefer Miu and Keebo to have a brother-sister relationship, where Miu gets to dote on her Stupid little robot brother and give him Equally Stupid upgrades. (yes, i know there's a sexual element to a lot of how they interact in canon, but i like to think that's before she really knows how to Treat People Normally. it evens out Eventually, although she still asks him from time to time if he wants [INSERT SOMETHING ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING HERE] so he can "get with some bitches or Ouma or whoever the fuck")
speaking of Miu, she still watches Saturday morning cartoons with sugary cereal every morning. if you interrupt her Genius Routine she can't function and blames you for depriving the World of the things she could have made that day
Hajime often discovers memes about 5 years too late and tries to use them to befriend others. it's charming, a bit. he still thinks Rickrolling is funny. this is less charming
Sakura does not participate in social media with one exception: she loves TikToks of animals being silly, cats especially, and bonds with Ryoma and many others over this. it's one of the first inroads she has with people
BONUS: during the main timeline events, it's Hina who observes AI Chiaki and bashfully, carefully, eyes cast down to the floor, asks Makoto if there's any chance they could use the same Technology to bring back their friends, too. "at least...the friends we still have a piece of." but as she watches the NWP she knows it will only cause her more grief: AI Chiaki was not the original Chiaki, and an AI Sakura would be less than a ghost. the true Sakura would not want to dwell on the past...even if the impulse is there. instead, Hina becomes friends with Alter Ego, and understands the importance of a legacy vs cyber-necromancy thru AE's insistence that he is more like Chihiro's son, not Chihiro
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ultimateplaylistmaker · 7 months ago
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I'm building on my concept for the Alter Ego we see in the NWP and I thought of something cute-ish.
AE(or Neo, as I call them) was programmed with the specific goal of healing the mental and emotional well being of anyone placed in the NWP as gently and safely as the AI can manage. To prevent corruption, only a select amount of individuals are capable of changing this purpose or bypassing it.
Those individuals are:
Chihiro
The ult therapist that I can't remember the name of
Makoto
Kiyotaka
And Byakuya
:3
You have to have the byakuya in their because some people just need to be told to suck it up and get going
also the name is miaya gekkogahara my GIRL my LOVE
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