#Specifically for the NWP

[princescar]

So fun writing Ryoko.

Most of the time she's :3 or <:3, but if you hurt someone she cares about, she'll fucking hunt you down

[aparticularbandit]

So I bought Nier Automata and a Playstation copy of Danganronpa: Summer Camp.

....

I have already played one of these more than the other, and while that answer may be obvious, I've played one more than the other in the less than 12 hours I've owned them on PS.

....

The answer's still the same, but.

That's not the point. >.>;;;;;

[komeeder]

i cant stop thinking about nwp logistics. when the survivors woke up from it what was it like. was it like when youre in a dream and it feels so real then you wake up and the reality of it is gone. do the memories feel like real life. and for the people that died during the simulation what happened to them while it was still ongoing...... were they something like ghosts like in among us just spectating? were they still in the code but just not in any way conscious, was it more like dreamless sleep or like a vague confusing and jumbled fever dream, when they got up did they have to be told the events of the simulation that they missed or did they just somehow... know? despite not exactly consciously witnessing it? and then waking them up...... we got 2.5 with komaeda but what about the others????? was it really easy for some and more difficult for others, and how fast did any of them wake up..... what were their 'worlds' like and what happened to wake them up. world destroyer took a violent route with komaedas but maybe depending on the person it didnt have to be violent?

forever thinking of sdr2

[funishment-time]

i love when people have Thought Experiments about Danganronpa-style killing games, but

it's good to remember that "what would Monokuma do if..." or "could you trick Monokuma by..." 100% depends on what Monokuma we're talking about and who's participating in the game.

Danganronpa 1's Monokuma is simply a mouthpiece for a very much alive Junko Enoshima. she is doing this killing game specifically to break her beloved classmates, and every rule and action is for that purpose. she is powerful but can be tricked, a loophole that Makoto and Kyoko use to their advantage.

Danganronpa 2's Monokuma is the avatar of an AI Junko Enoshima. this Junko, and thus this Monokuma, is acting against a class she/he/they barely know or care about (source: Kodaka). the Remnants/77b are pawns to this Junko-kuma and he's nigh-omnipotent in the virtual NWP. all the rules and actions bend towards this purpose.

v3's Monokuma seems to be his own guy and Tsumugi's coworker at best. he's done a thousand of these fucking games and he's tired. he's impersonal and if ol' Mooger wants to completely break the concept of Danganronpa by creating a sham first trial, that's fine by him. he's here for the spectacle and all he wants is the spectacle, because he knows the viewers want it. like DR1's Monokuma, however, he has a limited amount of power and you can certainly use it against him (see trial 5). he also adds a few rules that don't exist in 1 or 2.

of course, if you're not invoking Monokuma at all...this post is null and void. ha

[irlkokichiouma]

my pet theory is that any danganronpa media worth its salt has to be a little bit about a corrupt bullshit orginization and how much it sucks. the first 2 games are literally about how the punitive justice system sucks fucking shit. first game shows this by every blackened having a Reason for kilking outside of "murder yaaayyy," yes even celestia, her desire for money is explained in depth from her free time events and how she grew up, everyone had a Reason. sakura's suicide was the result of societal punitive justice instead of institutional and how people who think their moral outrage is good bc its aimed at the "correct targets" will just end up hurting people. second game takes this even furthur and goes "in the first game, punitive justice was bad because all these people were victims of circumstance. can you keep those same morals when the people being subject to punitive justice ARE actual criminals of their own free will?" with the added part about the nwp explicitly being a rehabilitative justice program. kamukura's inclusion and honestly dr:0 as a whole since the whole catalyst was kamukura is just a little bit about how any kind of exceptionally smart child is propped up as Something Amazing and is basically forced to use that talent for the greater good despite any feelings the child themself may have about it or how stuck they feel or how traumatized or tortured they become in the search for and nurturing of that talent, and any child thats not that is constantly told theyre inferior to the former and Why Cant They Be Like That and are seen as lesser-than by everyone around them. ultra despair girls is also kind of about that with the warriors of hope and their backstories. dr3 and v3 fall short because they are not about that at all. dr3's future arc is a bit stronger than despair because it actually is about an institution that sucks and despair's feels too much like an interpersonal thing and All Junko's Fault when the whole point was junko just took advantage of unrest that was already there. v3 is about an Institution That Sucks however the institution is "what if you loved a murder game so much you made it real" which doesnt fucking happen. you can make approximations like comparisons to true crime, reality tv, and for a more specific example that squid game reality show. but they didnt even kill people on that. v3 is critiquing something that does not measurably exist and also it doesnt connect to even a single theme from the rest of the series. my other pet theory is that kodaka is scared of the number 3 and thats why the ones with 3 in them are like that

[theamityelf]

any thoughts on how makoto’s yandere S/O would react to finding out that he’s been restricting food due to not feeling like he’s at an attractive weight? i’m asking with nagito, izuru, and mukuro in mind, but if there are additional/different characters that come to mind instead, i’d love hear what you think!

(I see that you sent this ask a second time, so for the record this is the first one! 😁 I was working on it in my drafts, lol.)

Ooh, interesting prompt. I'll do the specific ships you asked for first, then see about some others, lol!

As far as the premise itself, Makoto having body image issues could make a lot of sense, whether it's at Hope's Peak (lots of Olympic athletes and movie stars and supermodels) or at the Future Foundation (just imagining their propaganda images of him are super photoshopped to make his body look "more heroic"). Now, for the ships:

Komaegi

I feel like in this case Makoto would be distinctly ashamed of the reason for his bad relationship with food, since Nagito is so focused on principles and virtues. I think Makoto would somewhat expect Nagito to be disappointed by his "vanity".

Nagito's actual reaction depends so heavily on when this happens (pre-Tragedy or post-Tragedy, pre-NWP or post-NWP) and what flavor of yandere he is. Overall, the possibilities exist on a spectrum between Brutal Nagito, who will think it's helpful to reinforce Makoto's insecurities so he can stop fixating on them (or that's the rationalization he offers himself; what he's really doing is keeping Makoto down out of fear that once Makoto knows how amazing he is, he won't need or want him anymore) and Worshiper Nagito, who's just all praise.

So, the former is like, "I see. You're worried you don't look as good as they do? But of course you don't! You're a completely average, normal person. You can't be expected to compare to anyone in a world of Ultimates. Hey, cheer up. Think of it more like this: You don't need to compare to any of them, because no one is looking at you at all! Except me, of course. I think your average build is cute. There's no need to compare yourself to Ultimates; I like you for who you are."

And the latter is like, "Ah, I should have spoken up sooner. How thoughtless of me, to let you waste a second thinking anyone here holds a candle to you. I truly regret my negligence. I would have been singing your praises from the rooftops, had I known you suffered from even the briefest of doubts." And from there he just keeps showering Makoto in compliments about his appearance and personality (and some trace amounts of shade for everyone else) until Makoto goes from ashamed-embarrassed to flattered-embarrassed. And he will be doing this regularly from now on.

Kamuegi

This one's cool because Makoto's attempts to regulate how much he eats will directly grate against Izuru's attempts to feed him good food. It wouldn't take Izuru all that long to figure out Makoto's reservations, but instead of going the way of overwhelming praise like Nagito, he's just going to reinforce the behavior of eating by giving him tasty food and showing him affection when he eats it all (positive reinforcement– providing a positive stimulus to encourage a behavior) and by scolding, insulting, or threatening anyone who continues to feed into Makoto's body image issues (negative reinforcement– removing a negative stimulus to encourage a behavior).

The first part is self-explanatory. The second part is lowkey funny, because all someone has to do is be shirtless in Makoto's presence and have a flatter stomach or bigger muscles, and Izuru is immediately like, "Put those away. You look ridiculous." He's giving everybody else body image issues to make Makoto feel better. And if Future Foundation propaganda is causing Makoto's discomfort, Izuru will be bothering everyone about it until they get the art right. (They probably wouldn't trust him enough to let him make the propaganda himself, especially if we're treating the anime as canon.)

If and when Makoto starts to gain weight as a result of Izuru's treatment, Izuru makes sure that he never feels self-conscious about it.

Naekusaba

For this one, I'm imaging Junko playing a role. Like, maybe when Makoto skips meals or just is hungry in general Junko says that he looks better than usual, and she comments on it like he's gorging himself when he does eat a normal amount. And Mukuro knows what she's doing and eventually has to actually make the decision to push back.

I don't have too much more for that, but it's already a pretty big deal to have her speak out against what Junko's doing, so.

Once she takes that step, she's a more militant (and also clumsier) version of Izuru's negative reinforcement strategy. She doesn't have as precise an understanding of what things make Makoto feel bad, so she's not saying or doing anything to guys who happen to be shirtless around Makoto, but she'll hold a knife to someone's throat for saying the word "fat" in a completely normal way/context.

Also I imagine her as more submissive toward Makoto than Izuru is, so where Izuru would be like, "Eat some more," when Makoto is about to stop eating, Mukuro would be more like, "Is that...all you're eating?" But both result in Makoto picking up his utensils again.

Naezono

Bringing this up just to say that I think that, as a person in the entertainment industry, Sayaka has perhaps also at some point had a less-than-healthy relationship with food, and seeing her own struggle mirrored in Makoto (and vice versa, for him) might help them both kind of climb out of it. She's encouraging him to eat by pretty literally cheering him on, and by doing the same herself. The yandere element comes into play only if someone directly insults Makoto, in which case Sayaka will smile politely and very sweetly post to all her social media that the person called her fat. They'll be getting death threats and other cruel DM's for the rest of their lives. #[ThatPerson]IsOverParty

Naehiro

Similar deal with Chihiro. They're both about to tackle their body dysphoria. It's very sweet, very healing. And if someone ever insults Makoto, Chihiro's challenging them to a physical fight (because I really think the "I want to get stronger!" thing would come out of them in weird ways, for a while). Similar to Mukuro, Chihiro would be shy and awkward about encouraging Makoto to eat, but it would be effective regardless.

Naegiri/Naegami/Tonaegiri/Naegamigiri

Ngl, I feel like Kyoko and Byakuya would be kinda bad at handling this, but in a way I find funny.

Like, Kyoko would notice Makoto's eating habits just as a matter of course, and Byakuya would notice it in an "I took you to this expensive restaurant and you barely ate anything!" way.

And if/when Makoto opens up about his feelings, I feel like both of them would be un-equipped to engage with them in a sensitive way. If he says he's insecure about how he looks, they'd pretty much be like, "Why? That's stupid. Stop being stupid." Any hint of Makoto being insecure or unhappy makes them (I think Byakuya more so than Kyoko) kind of frustrated that they don't know how to alleviate that. They don't really know how to give a great compliment. They'll tell him he looks good, and they'll say or imply that they're attracted to him, but they're simply not speaking Nagito's language.

Yandere-wise, probably the best they can do is seize control of the images he sees. So, they'll smack a magazine right out of his hand, change the channel when he's watching a superhero movie, etc. And he'll be hearing a lot of "Eat." "Finish eating." "You're not done." "You're not getting up until you finish that."

[the-local-scp]

with my newfound knowledge of the remnants of despair consenting to the nwp, i have to imagine just what Makoto said to get them to agree. If y'all watched The Menu, and how at the climax Margot is all like "You didn't give me food, I am hungry, you've failed to be a chef.", that's how i imagine Makoto goated some of them.

I feel it'd be more effective on Kamukura specifically.

Makoto would be like "you're boring. you've bored me. you have all these talents and do absolutely nothing, you were supposed to be humanity's hope, and you've bored me. I thought i was meeting someone important, someone skilled. Instead, I've been presented a husk, dare i say corpse. Worst of all? *I* am considered hope now. they never stop calling me that, all it took was a few words and I've taken *your* place."

The reason i think it would work on Kamukura is cause its all true. Makoto may not have been officially recognized as ultimate hope by hopes peak, but in the midst of war he was the perfect substitute for the failed project of making synthetic hope. And with all those talents he cannot do the one thing those talents are supposed to be used for. entertainment, healing, you name it. Kamukura may be bored with everyone and everything, but more importantly he bores.

[noxiatoxia]

On: Sprite Files Inside SDR2

Specific characters have repeat sprites within their sections. The reason for this is unknown, but I have to assume these sprites are used as placeholders, either in place of sprites that were once meant to be made but never were and so pre-existing sprites were saved over, or perhaps for specific coding purposes. Either way, I will list them out in order.

First: how the sprites are listed. They are all named bustup_[character numer]_[sprite number]

For example, this is bustup_00_00

This is bustup_00_01

So on and so forth.

Character numbers: 00: Hinata Hajime 01: Komaeda Nagito 02: Togami Byakuya (Imposter) 03: Tanaka Gundam 04: Souda Kazuichi 05: Hanamura Teruteru 06: Nidai Nekomaru 07: Kuzuryuu Fuyuhiko 08: Owari Akane 09: Nanami Chiaki 10: Sonia Nevermind 11: Saionji Hiyoko 12: Koizumi Mahiru 13: Tsumiki Mikan 14: Mioda Ibuki 15: Pekoyama Peko 16: Monokuma 17: Monomi/Usami 18: Enoshima Junko 19: Nidai Nekomaru (Robot) 20: Naegi Makoto 21: Kirigiri Kyoko 22: Togami Byakuya (DR1) 23 Does not exist (may be the narrator; aka green text in game) 24: Alter Ego (NWP)

Onto the oddities, in order.

Komaeda (01)

bustup_01_29 and bustup_01_30 are repeats of bustup_01_00.

Togami (02)

bustup_02_15 is a repeat of bustup_02_00.

Kuzuryuu (07)

Though none of Kuzuryuu's sprites are repeated in the files, there do exist a version of each sprite with and without an eyepatch, even if that version is never used in the final game.

Nanami (09)

bustup_09_23 is a beta version of bustup_09_22 still left in the game files. Oddly, the sprite is low quality despite every other sprite's resolution being upped to match the PC port. This isn't due to the fact that the sprite goes unused, as the anti-piracy message screen is also upped in quality in the PC port, despite the fact it has never been used outside of the original PSP version and thus can only be found by looking through the games files.

This beta sprite is not lost in a HQ, however, as it is mistakenly reused for a character card in UTDP.

Pekoyama (15)

bustup_15_21 is a beta version of bustup_15_00 that goes unused in the files. Like Nanami, it suffers from low quality. I have yet to find an HQ version of this sprite used anywhere else, sadly.

Here is a comparison gif:

It can be a little hard to tell but please direct your attention to her left ear. The beta sprite has much more volume to the ear than the final sprite. This is the same one mistakenly used in the Student Handbook in the PSP version of the game (also low quality). If you locate a piece of merch, section in a game or anywhere else that has a HQ version of this beta sprite please let me know!

Monokuma (16)

bustup_16_40 through bustup_16_53 are all un-shaded, slightly bigger versions of bustup_16_00.

(if you want to be technical, it's actually an un-shaded version of DR1 Monokuma sprites, as SDR2 Monokuma has an added outline to the black part of him that DR1 lacks.)

Monomi/Usami (17)

bustup_17_22 through bustup_17_29 are all beta, uncolored and slightly bigger versions of bustup_17_00. This was back when Monomi's cheeks had black outlines, which was a staple of her beta sprites.

And yeah, that's about it.

[kiwibongos]

warning for ab/se & toxic relationships. and sdr2 spoilers duh

im thinking abt the remnants of despair. cause i hate how it just seemed to be like, "theyre suddenly brainwashed and then they turn evilll and they kill because they dont feel anything" like, i hate that. it feels so underdeveloped. it cant just be despair, it has to be deeper than that, i think it'd take personal angles and link with a lot of their own trauma, leaving them really vulnerable and deranged. so heres my own interpretation and headcanons for some of them

contains mikan, nagito, fuyuhiko, peko, akane, kazuichi, and brief analysis of the rest. keep in mind i havent seen the animes yet lol so this is a basic layer of it, but i just rly wanted to let this out cus i dont see it talked about. storing my brainrot here for later moments.

first of all i feel like the brainwashing would be a very slow process bc junko would definitely just manipulate everyone in her way to get what she wants. and by the time the world was plagued basically, all the remnants clearly had really unhealthy feelings related to junko specifically. they all love her, hate her, or praise her, but its all in very different ways that would be bc of their own personal backstories

we all know how mikan and nagito feel. mikan was constantly hurt by other people before junko herself, itd make sense for her to develop a very unhealthy attachment to her. mikan was extremely vulnerable and controllable, she would do anything for anyone and especially junko, just so no one is mad at her, hence why it got so twisted to the point where she wanted to keep a part of her inside forever. she wanted to be loved so badly, she would take whatever form of it she could. thats why it was so easy for junko to get her under her boot. now nagito has an odd love-hate relationship with junko imo (his mind is so messed up man) even if he praises hope in such a grossly obsessed way, the mf still TOOK her arm. i know he did it because he hated her so much and i guess to take power back, but i feel like because nagito had never really been loved, he wanted to try and feel what it could've been like out of some kind of confused desperation and fondness for her in a way, because his mind has no idea what those feelings truly are or what they mean, as hatred and love often get mixed up in his head and form this horrible amalgamation with whoever he meets, which is clear towards the survivors in the nwp anyway

fuyuhiko put junko's own eye into his own socket, and i feel like his relationship with her while in despair would be familial and extremely unhealthy. he is definitely one of the most fucked up to me. id say by my own headcanons though its heavily implied in his fte dialogues, is his parents are very ab/usive right from the start. fuyuhiko is messed up to all hell, he was constantly struck and under pressure but he had to be strong and perfect because he was the head of his clan, hence like his insane tolerance for pain. he had to make his clan, or more importantly his parents proud, or else he was a failure forever. so he clung onto that and did his best trying to be good enough for basically anyone. and even before despair he was in a really bad stubborn, mean, depressive state, leaving him far more vulnerable and more open to violent, impulsive actions as long as junko was smart enough to get him under her finger. fuyuhiko never knew what true love felt like (platonic or not), and when junko took advantage of all of that and he slowly fell into despair, shit hit the fan. he lost morality and he had come so attached to her to the point where junko was like a mother figure to him. he wanted her to notice him and be proud basically, it was moreso the idea of someone-- anyone-- being proud of him, but junko was his main focus of that by now, given his state. to him she was like the mother he never had, who seemed to be on the same terms with everything he had believed, someone who approved of him, so he wanted to make her proud, even if it was hurting him. fuyuhiko would keep digging himself a hole of desperation and self destruction, seeking more and more pain to test his endurance because it's what she wanted, and that became what he wanted, too, because pain is all he's used to. and because of that, makotos guess was right; he wanted to see her despair. it'd make sense he'd want to take a part of her, to see horrors she had witnessed so he could understand it, so she could be proud of him and part of him forever. he felt like if he did that, he would finally succeed, he'd achieve perfection, and he did. he'd done everything junko wanted him to do, while quenching his own thirst for violence itself, all via his own delusions. that was love to him and it felt real

as for peko she was definitely also treated the same in the kuzuryu family but more dehumanized obviously, so i think she'd feel a similar way; always needing to be good enough, but more specifically protecting the ones she cares about at all costs even if it results in bloodshed. i think she'd be a lot colder, forcing to suppress her feelings since she just has to follow fuyuhiko wherever he goes, and she was pretty much as insane as him as well so anything slid. i know peko doesnt want to be a tool, but she'd definitely succumb to the fact that she has to be one when they're under despair at the same time, and if she was going to be his tool, she has to be like a robot and just do what follows, because she didn't see herself as a person, her chance of being her own human was ripped away

as for akane, she grew up very poor, and didn't live a good life at all either (w/ definitely bad parents) but she always tried her very best taking care of her siblings in the past, despite everything. i think there was a lot of twisted familial love with junko whom she started to see as a sister despite being unrelated, just because of being a caretaker all her life, its just kind of instinct to protect anyone, but that just got mixed up as she fell into despair, and she would only protect junko, while chaotically killing anyone else in her way. she'd fight for her endlessly, she was one of the strongest, at least for a while, im thinkin she found her body and wanted to preserve it as much as possible by the end of everything, she still wanted to take care of her and do everything for her even if she had been too late. and with that, and barely any food in an apocalyptic world, the inevitable happens. akane would fall into a very hurtful spiral of self hate, that her starving was a sacrifice to junko so she could prioritize her first instead of herself, while also it being like a punishment to herself for her own failures and how she was failing to preserve junko

kazuichi always hated himself. he was bullied often, didn’t have a lot of friends going into high school, and he was very desperate for attention, especially from women. he’d be very notably attached to junko which would eventually evolve into romantic feelings, similar to mikan. he craved attention and validation so much, it left him very vulnerable, and kazuichi often grows attached to people who show him a sliver of kindness anyway, so junko would likely personally manipulate him and praise him, and they’d grow close, and he’d develop a very strong attachment towards her that derails into love and lust. and once he was influenced by her under despair, he would do anything for her. so, he’d get his hands on a lot of weapons, and go on mindless killing sprees, causing havoc 24/7 just to please her and keep her memory alive through despair. and deep in his mind, he probably truly thought that junko was his soulmate, that they were destined to be together, and he was fulfilling missions just for her, and in the end, they could be together

extra stuff i guess? as anyone would expect, sonia just became a corrupted leader and took advantage of her power under despair. her kingdom would try to keep her above it, but she’d fall into it somehow anyway, and probably had already been plagued by corrupt/unjust views by junko before, so she’d lead her people to worship junko the same way she does, and anyone who stood against it would be punished severely. mahiru falls into morbid curiosity because of junko and gets worse, given what she does with her camera, also both mikan and gundham would try to stitch junko up a little, and try to keep her from falling apart as long as possible. mikan is more likely to do that for her own twisted romantic purposes, but if gundham gets a hold of her before or after mikan, he would take her blood for himself, and most likely start a cult to worship her, all for like weird satanic purposes involving rituals and stuff. he’d also encourage his members or the other remnants to indulge in certain activities for the sake of praising her. gundham would probably even believe she was some demon from the underworld who granted him powers and chose him to carry on her legacy

also teruteru was just a little hungry. boys gotta eat

[therpgconnoisseur]

can we talk a minute about attribute usefulness degradation in dnd? its a change that started in 3rd with the implementation of its skill system but its really dire in 5e.

to put it simply for those not familiar with older editions, your attributes used to be more relevant both when doing things actively and passively. Attributes where much more central to roll resolution (roll a d20 under your attribute to succeed), with the awkwardly named "non weapon proficiencies" (what are now skills) being either more of a slight bonus or a determinant on weather or not you could even roll (mostly for knowledge or profession based skills, you either knew about the subject or didn't) and some "nwp" being more similar to feats, allowing you to do a specific think like blind fighting.

Strength added to damage done by attacks and since it determined how much you can carry in a game where loot=xp that was much more significant, wizards where maybe the only class that didn't benefit all that much from it. In 5e its all but useless to characters that aren't specializing in two handed weapons.

Intelligence determined how many "NWP" you got, so even melee focused character benefited from it, as it gave them access to a variety of extra things they could do. 3rd edition kinda kept this but your class became your main source of skill points so intelligence was more of a slight bonus that was considered very sub optimal to focus on for most classes, 5e basically turned int into the academic knowledge stat, vital for wizards and artificers but otherwise not much use (there are a few subclasses that use int but my point is that it used to be useful for anyone).

Charisma is in a weird spot, it used to be the social skill, which included active social interactions (i roll to persuade) but also determined your ability to attract followers and their loyalty, pretty useful for anyone. In 3rd edition as social skills where introduced your class and even your intelligence had more of a role in how successful your character was at convincing people, with charisma being a bonus that got less significant as you leveld up, it influenced getting followers but only a little bit and that aspect of the game got very optional-y anyway. The designers seem to have noticed so they turned it into the casting spells stat for anyone who wasnt a wizard, cleric or druid. Every new class introduced had a 95% chance of being a charisma caster, this sucked since it was a useless stat that you where forced to take for many interesting classes, making the few intelligence based casters vastly more preferable (since that at least gave you a few more skillpoints). This is why most casters are charisma based in 5e i think, the design correction just carried over even though they made charisma a tad more significant for social interaction.

Constitution and Dexterity have changed little, but as the other skills got less useful constitution and dexterity have shot up in power, currently those two are the only attributes that everyone get a lot of value out of, the two adding a lot of survivability to any character as they make one have more hp and be harder to hit respectively as well as being the two most called for saving throws, even characters that dont use finesse weapons and wear heavy armor get use out of it.

Wisdom sucks and has always sucked, it is a poorly defined mix of perception, willpower and ...faith? that should have been gutted and split into the other two mental stats from day one imho.

This creates very uneven design for classes, and once you notice it it just feels like shit. Its, i think, the reason "minmaxing" got its bad reputation, its because the game encourages it to an insane degree, where as in older editions (and honestly most other ttrpgs) having a "dump stat" is making the choice of being bad at something, rather than be something players do because in most cases the stat in question does fuck all.

conclusion: uhhhh idk play another game and so on and so forth

[asaka-lucy-dr-rc]

The series is not 100% clear on the matter. But a lot of fans have observed that there's a fair bit of evidence to suggest that Nagito wasn't lying about his illnesses, despite surviving his original prognosis. And that him insisting he was lying afterwards was just his attempt to keep Hajime from getting close to him.

There are multiple pieces of evidence in the various mangas showing his inner thoughts, that point to the stuff about his dead dog and the plane crash being truthful. And if he was being truthful about something as insane as a meteor hitting a plane at the exact moment it was being hijacked, the dementia + lymphoma claim isn't quite so unbelievable.

There's also his behavior throughout the series. People have pointed out that a lot of it is fairly consistent with symptoms of someone with fronto-temporal dementia. His tendency to ramble, impaired empathy, inappropriate social behavior, etc. His pale skin and hair, along with his skinny physique also suggests his body is quite sickly.

Sorry for dragging this out a bit. It's just that when it comes to Nagito's illnesses, a number of fans can treat him very hypocritically. To use Nekomaru for example, he frequently does strenuous physical activities that a person with a heart condition shouldn't be doing. Yet no one accuses him of lying about his illness. Nor do people claim that Toko fakes her split personality, even though Syo isn't a very accurate portrayal of dissociative identity disorder.

Oh, thanks for taking the time to message me! First of all, I want to say that I'm not specifically accusing him of lying, just that it can be interpreted as a lie because the math between the life expectancy he said and the actual time he lived after he was declared sick doesn't add up. I'm not sure about the EN fandom, but I think more people interpret it that way, at least in the JP fandom.

I also do not want to criticize anyone who thinks his illness is true. I was more wondering why there is a difference in interpretation between the JP fandom and the English fandom wiki. The Danganronpa Fandom Wiki says "While it is left ambiguous in the game, his illnesses and backstory as well as his school profile in Danganronpa 3". I don't have the official setting materials of the anime, so I'm not sure, but I did a search in Japanese to see if anyone mentioned anything like Nagito's illness was written in them, but I couldn't find any mention of it. So I just said that the source of that line is vague, but that's all. I mentioned that more people in the JP fandom have the interpretation that his illness was a lie, but of course there are various fanfic made under the assumption that the story of his illness is true! I am a fan who played DR2 almost immediately after it was released in Japan, and if I remember correctly, there was a mixture of both interpretations among those who finished the game at the beginning, and gradually fans accepted the one that the illness was probably a lie, because the life expectancy he talked about and the time when the school trip in NWP started did not match. (I guess a lot of fans just wanted Nagito to live).

Sorry for repeating almost the same sentence, but I know there are people in both the JP and EN fandoms who would interpret it as real, and I'm not trying to determine which is canon at all. In the post I commented on, the OP seemed to be considering which way to interpret it, so I thought telling about the interpretation in the JP fandom might be a kind of clue to the story. I don't want to criticize those who interpret his illness as true.

However, as for the information written on the fandom wiki, I want to know the source! If anyone knows where the information is written, please let me know!

I didn't mention some of the things you wrote, but I hope you understand that's because I don't want to be particularly critical or anything like that. (And since we were originally only talking about Nagito, I don't intend to expand the discussion to other characters.)

Again, thanks for taking the time to message me!

[sparkymalone]

Songs from my Spoofy playlist as Danganronpa ships (mostly SDR2 because the brainrot is real):

Hinanami - "The Girl at the Video Game Store" by Parry Gripp / It's about a dorky guy who falls for a girl who likes video games. That's it, that's the song and the ship. Lmao but seriously, it gives non-despair Hinanami to me.

Kuzupeko - "Only One" by Yellowcard / Listen, I don't even ship Kuzupeko, but like... "Scream my lungs out / and try to get to you" is so Trial 2, I can't help it.

Kuzuhina - "Your Man" by Smash Mouth / Really, this song works for most Hajime ships. I just think it's especially good for Kuzuhina because, while Hajime has his self-worth issues, I feel like Fuyuhiko has some, too. His are just slightly different. Like, Hajime is very "What do you see in me? I'm worthless." While Fuyuhiko is very "What the fuck do you see in me? I'm an asshole." Also, yes, I listen to Smash Mouth, fucking fight me lmao

Hinatsumi - "Just the Girl" by the Click Five / You could probably also see this as Kuzuhina, but there's something about lines like "She laughs at my dreams / but I dream about her laughter" and "Knows just what to say so my whole day is ruined" that just screams Natsumi to me.

Tsumioda - "Absolutely (Story of a Girl)" by Nine Days / This could be about any Mikan ship, really, but it gives me Tsumioda vibes. Or maybe I'm just trying not to use Hajime again. Idk.

Kuzuhina - "Head Over Feet" by Alanis Morisette / This is the quintessential tsundere love song. I played it at my wedding. It's Kuzuhina to me. Byeeee~ But seriously, "You've already won me over / in spite of me." It's my boy.

Oumota - "She's Kerosene" by the Interrupters / Again, this could be about any Kokichi ship. Something about it really gives me Oumota vibes, though.

Non-shipping Bonus:

"The Freshmen" by the Verve Pipe / This is such a a Danganronpa song. "For the life of me, I cannot believe we'd ever die for these sins, we were only freshmen."

"Cool Kids" by Echosmith / Very Hajime-core. The whole song.

"Fiction" by Orgy / Fitting for any of the survivors paired with anyone who died in the NWP. "She's lost in coma where it's beautiful / Intoxicated from the deep sleep, deep sleep."

"Policy of Truth" by Depeche Mode / This song is so V3, since that game really focuses on truth and lies. "It's too late to change events / it's time to face the consequence / for delivering the proof / in the policy of truth."

I might add to this list later lol

Do you agree with my choices? Let me know what songs you associate with specific characters and ships. I'd love to know.

[aparticularbandit]

do you think that if Yasuke existed in the v3 universe, he would've invented the flashback light? (thinking about how his memory manipulation research was so important to the og games that it most likely inspired it in canon v3)

I'm not sure.

Yasuke's primary goal was memory retention, as spurred by his mom's loss of her memories, and while the situation with Junko (and the use of NWP in DR2) used his research for the opposite effect, I don't think those uses were his goal. (Junko caused the reversal re: maximum despair, and NWP did originally get used to help the DR1 survivors regain their memories of the two years they lost re: DR1, so it did have other uses before Makoto decided to pull a...actually, I guess a Yasuke, by removing memories to revert characters to their previous selves to try and make them better (eerily similar to Ryoko there, huh. Didn't see that before. FUN.))

The flashback light seems to not really do either, since it doesn't cause the V3 characters to regain memories but rewrites over their old memories with new ones. And even then, given that their minds were mostly blank slates prior to the rewrite, it seems to me that the flashback light is more of a memory imprint device...or a form of, ah, for lack of a better term re: DR universe, brainwashing.

Ryota's (and Junko's, in Despair Arc) animation has the power to rewrite over a person's normal etc. and lead them to do things and be people they wouldn't be in normal situations - re: Remnants; re: the use of the Despair video used on the Reserve Course and the Future Arc Killing Game victims.

To me, the flashback light feels like an improved (and more specific) version of that - something that is seen that rewrites a person (or multiple people's) brains to follow something designed specifically by another person.

A form of control, depending on how exact you think Tsumugi scripted all the things. (Did the flashback light download the scripts and motivations and etc. into them when it was used? Or did it only implant false realities?)

((Potentially it could have combined Ryota's and Yasuke's research, since it technically tampers with memories, but given that Yasuke's focus would have been restoration/permanence of real memories (and memory wiping, unfortunately), I don't think his research would have been used for the implanting bit. So maybe a mix of both? Since the first flashback light erased the Prologue memories?))

[hopeymchope]

Is it weird that I actually prefer DR3’s explanation for how Chiaki was created over DR2 implying that Chihiro created Chiaki? It more sense to have the memories Class 77-B have for Chiaki, be used as basis for which an Observer can be built from.

And while Chihiro creating an Alter Ego ai for the NWP makes sense (a completely separate Alter Ego from the one he eventually makes in DR1) I don’t really buy Chihiro is able to create three separate ai’s with distinct personalities and roles for the NWP. Especially since Chiaki and Usami are therapy ai and Chihiro definitely doesn’t have any therapeutic knowledge.

Plus, making three ai’s a lot of work for just one person and this isn’t a project he owns, he’s only collaborating with the development along with many other people so I imagine Chihiro would only be here to develop the Alter Ego ai and the development of an Observer system would be handled by other people.

I personally believe "Alter Ego" is just multiple copies of a single A.I. program — once that we happen to see put to work in a variety of different situations/ways.

But other than that, I think I can generally agree with you. Maybe not for the exact same reasons, but I still agree with your concluesions.

I understand that we're supposed to believe Fujisaki, Gekkogahara, and Matsuda all worked together to develop the Neo World Program. That's why we see Gekkogahara's personal avatar, Usami, working as a therapeutic A.I. program within the NWP. But once you have Fujisaki developing Alter Ego (based on themselves) and then co-developing Usami (based on Gekkogahara), the thing about the Chiaki is: Why would Chihiro develop two separate therapy A.I.s for the same program? And then, despite basing their previous A.I.s on specific people, how and/or why would Chihiro create a third A.I. that somehow has its own completely unique, distinct personality that ISN'T based on anybody else?

For those reasons, I think the justification for Chiaki's uniqueness and distinct function given in DR3 is actually better than going without those explanations.

[funishment-time]

17! 17! 17!

!!! HELL YEAH !!!

17. List five headcanons for your favorite characters!

the arrival of the Monokubs at a non-despair HPA causes a lot of chaos, as everyone thinks Junko built the kubs to make fun of them specifically. in fact, Junko didn't build the kubs at all, but she lets them "live" because their existence causes everyone despair (including her and her favorite son, Monokuma)

this may be a sin to some, but i actually prefer Miu and Keebo to have a brother-sister relationship, where Miu gets to dote on her Stupid little robot brother and give him Equally Stupid upgrades. (yes, i know there's a sexual element to a lot of how they interact in canon, but i like to think that's before she really knows how to Treat People Normally. it evens out Eventually, although she still asks him from time to time if he wants [INSERT SOMETHING ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING HERE] so he can "get with some bitches or Ouma or whoever the fuck")

speaking of Miu, she still watches Saturday morning cartoons with sugary cereal every morning. if you interrupt her Genius Routine she can't function and blames you for depriving the World of the things she could have made that day

Hajime often discovers memes about 5 years too late and tries to use them to befriend others. it's charming, a bit. he still thinks Rickrolling is funny. this is less charming

Sakura does not participate in social media with one exception: she loves TikToks of animals being silly, cats especially, and bonds with Ryoma and many others over this. it's one of the first inroads she has with people

BONUS: during the main timeline events, it's Hina who observes AI Chiaki and bashfully, carefully, eyes cast down to the floor, asks Makoto if there's any chance they could use the same Technology to bring back their friends, too. "at least...the friends we still have a piece of." but as she watches the NWP she knows it will only cause her more grief: AI Chiaki was not the original Chiaki, and an AI Sakura would be less than a ghost. the true Sakura would not want to dwell on the past...even if the impulse is there. instead, Hina becomes friends with Alter Ego, and understands the importance of a legacy vs cyber-necromancy thru AE's insistence that he is more like Chihiro's son, not Chihiro

[ovidiomedes]

in a good example of good intentions with bad consequences i really love how dr3 portrays the brief dynamic between the great gozu and makoto.

bc as soon as the killing game starts and munakata and sakakura want makoto to die, gozu immediately interferes and starts fighting them to give makoto a chance to escape.

aside from aoi, kyoko and miaya (all people who have a long history with makoto and miaya who actually helped makoto w the nwp) its safe to assume gozu only know what he's been told about makoto.

and yet he still chooses to help, but in an ironic twist he hears first hand one of makoto's speeches and he reaffirms makoto's role as the ultimate hope. he tells him everyone is looking to him and that they're all counting on him

again. good intentions, bad consequences. bc i always thought that those words from gozu are a lot of what makes makoto spiral in dr3 specifically. he has to be a hero. he has to be the ultimate hope. gozu said how much everyone was counting on him, and then fucking DIED