#Silas Ramsbottom

[editfandom]

Despicable Me 4, 2024

[ariaovon]

AVL oc time! — Silas and Dagmara? Oh, they go way back.

They love to argue, and when their arguments get too intense, they love to kiss eachother. ON THE MOUTH. Between meetings, perhaps. - Or even on secret dinner dates, that are definitely not dates, or anything unprofessional like that.

This is what decades of suppressed feelings and attempts at keeping things 'strictly professional' does to people, I believe.

They love to hate each other, but they hate how much they actually love each other.

Like healthy adults ought to! /jk

[iwasbored777]

Silas Ramsbottom being the one to take Gru and his family to the safe house is so cool to me. If he didn't send Lucy to find Gru in Despicable Me 2 the two of them wouldn't have ended up together. Grunior wouldn't be here if there wasn't for Silas.

[iavulture]

Headcanon and story time (related to Despicable Me 2)

All right, I know everyone is onto DM4 (or rather, a certain cockroach man), but I've been way too enamored with a headcanon that I have stemming from DM2, which has since evolved into an ongoing AU/alternate continuity fic that further explores it in its own way. Ready to hear it? Because this'll be a long one.

(Spoilers for Despicable Me 2 and a warning due to mentions of death. Also, I will rant a bit, not out of outright hate, but because I wish things were handled better.)

*deep breath

I have this headcanon that Silas Ramsbottom is Lucy Wilde's adoptive father.

Yes, this man.

Now, before you think that's ridiculous, before you go "No way, Silas? That big man who was kind of an arse to Gru in 2 is Lucy's dad?", I can explain that, beginning with a personal story.

See, back when trailers for DM4 were being released, I decided to throw in my lot to the Despicable Me fandom for the first time by writing a future fic featuring a grown-up Gru Jr. following his parents' footsteps as a newbie AVL agent. Following that, I also decided to write another Despicable Me fic that is my take on what happened with Lucy's parents, who were killed by a villain when she was a young girl.

Above is the Twitter post describing Lucy's short backstory. This is back in 2015. 2015! Two years after DM2's 2013 release!

Anyway, after seeing that tweet and browsing through Ao3 and Fanfiction.net for Despicable Me fanfics, I was disappointed to find so few fics that explored that part of her life. Yes, I know that Gru is the protagonist of the mainline films, but does it hurt to shed some light on the character who becomes his wife? Y'know, someone who's one half of a couple, and (ideally) just as important as the other half?

Sigh. Of course, we never see this bit about her in the films: not during a conversation between Lucy and another character, not even a mention or a flashback (though correct me if I'm wrong and overlooked a movie that does mention or hint at it; if not, my point stands).

Not long ago, I brought this up with a friend, and I hypothesized that the reason why this was never implemented in some way in the films is because it's too dark for a kids franchise like Despicable Me, even though I can argue that several other kids series have elements that are as dark or even darker than that: my friend brought up Frozen 2 and Elsa dying, meaning you could definitely insert legitimately dark moments into a kids film. Hell, I can bring up The Lion King, which has Mufasa dying to the wildebeest stampede after Scar lets him go, traumatizing Simba; in fact, Mufasa's death impacts Simba even in adulthood, showing that childhood trauma can have an effect even after growing up.

In any case, it IS possible for a kid's film to be quite mature, but Lucy's backstory? Just thrown into the wind, especially in regards to the films after DM2.

Like, can you imagine the effects of such an event on her psyche? What would Lucy think of villains after her parents died? Would she ever have thoughts of revenge? Forgiveness? Would she hide it from her husband, the kids, or even her past dates? (She mentions having gone on a few bad dates in DM2 and that's the reason why she keeps a lipstick taser.) What would her life be like after they died: would she live a mostly normal life, or would she be trained to be an AVL agent at a fairly young age? Heck, would Silas know that her parents died when a villain attacked them, and would he and the AVL do something about it, perhaps avenge their deaths?

So many questions, so much wasted potential.

(Here's me crossing my fingers for a TV series that'll probably never happen, because I think Lucy's past could be explained well in that format.)

But now I'll turn to a much lighter note and the real cut of lamb of this post.

Going back to my headcanon that Silas is Lucy's adoptive father, I noticed something interesting in DM2.

During Gru and Lucy's wedding, notice the number of frills on Lucy's dress and Agnes' dress? They're both the same, and if you think about it, Agnes was the one who was the most enthusiastic about the idea of Lucy marrying Gru, implying she looked up to Lucy in high regard and thus wanted to dress up like her for the wedding.

"But Vulture! What about the note saying 'same color as Lucy's usual attire'? What's that got to do with anything?" That's likely to show how much Gru loves her, to the point he dresses up with the same color she usually dresses up in. You know what Lucy's usual getup looks like? If not, here you go.

Light-ish shade of blue, right? Now, look at this.

Maybe I've taken crazy pills or need to have my eyes checked, but I don't recall seeing any other AVL personnel having something that's just as light blue on them. I'm pretty sure in reality it's all just to help create a unique character design, to make them stand out from the generic AVL agents, but yeah. It's just something that I noticed, there's nothing to officially confirm that Silas and Lucy have some sort of close connection with each other other than they're both with the AVL.

But given my observation of "character dresses a bit like another character they admire or at least respect," you can sort of see why I have that headcanon.

I still find it interesting how Silas is around Lucy in comparison to when he's around Gru, in that he's never actually antagonistic toward her or any of his other spies and doesn't doubt her skills. Of course, since one of them is essentially a former criminal, it makes sense that he'd have some animosity toward Gru. Heck, I'm pretty sure Silas might've even been hostile to Gru way back then after Minions 2 since Silas told Gru to "stay out of trouble, kid," only for Gru to break that promise by becoming a thief anyway. However, given that Silas appears at the wedding and even helps Gru, Lucy and their children move to a safehouse in DM4, it's clear that things got better for both of them.

About the fic that I mentioned earlier in this post, I based it on this headcanon specifically, along with a few others that I wrote down on a list. There, Silas adopts an orphaned Lucy shortly after her home was destroyed by a villain and her parents were killed. Traumatized that she survived but they didn't, she often gets worried and nervous, even having a hard time at a new school. She also has to contend with living with Silas, who has his own problems to deal with, from being in charge of the AVL and a few things from his past, including his own family. (And yes, I did create OC family members, and Silas' relationship with them is... a bit complicated to say the least.)

All in all, I wanted to try my hand at writing something that explores familial themes, struggles, and dynamics, especially since I feel they aren't handled as well after 2. Plus, I get to play with some tropes and elements present in the canon Despicable Me films (and, rather appropriately enough, other spy/espionage works like James Bond), except instead of a(n ex-)supervillain with his adopted daughters, it's with the AVL director and his (fan'verse) adopted daughter.

*sigh* And now this post is done! It's been a long one, but I just wanted to type out my thoughts on a few things related to a fic I'm currently working on and because I feel upset that things could've worked out better in canon.

[prisen09]

STEVE COOGAN IS SILAS FREAKING RAMSBOTTOM HWAT?????

my WIFE IS TOO PRETTY TO BE SHEEPSBUTT

[redhatmeg]

I still think that Minions: Rise of Gru is one of the better installments of Despicable Me franchise and - let's face it - it is way better than the first Minions movie.

However, one thing that drags this movie down, in my opinion, is that it lacks consistency with the rest of the franchise. For example:

The existence of magic is very prevelant in this movie. Not only the Zodiac Stone but also all the things surrounded by it (little ancient soldiers guarding it) and - to the lesser extend - the moves straight out of wuxia flicks Ms. Chow and Wild Knuckles could pull. Other Despicable Me movies are more in realms of (admittedly, quite cheesy) sci-fi that brings to mind spy flicks. Magic may be a little out of place.

The fact that Gru not only met Silas Ramsbottom, but also seem to be aware of what AVL is. In Despicable Me 2, where AVL is introduced, Gru doesn't seem to know who Silas is or that there even is an organization dealing with supervillainy. And while I can fix Minions and Nefario's parts with some headcanons, I have harder time doing it with AVL and Ramsbottom (the only idea that comes to my mind is that Gru maybe thought they're police or something?).

Finally, the 70s setting which I've talked about it a bit.

Look, I love it. And I know you may not find the things I mentioned as glaring issues, but I noticed them and wanted to point them out.

[ranminfan]

Silas in his late 20s and Fin in his early 30s

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I don't think I ever posted this here, but I wanted to make like a comparison between these uncle and nephew during their time at the AVL.

I haven't posted any DM related art lately but I do have a lot in my drafts.

[rewandemontay]

https://archiveofourown.org/works/58097071Despicable Me 4 Fanfic, feat. Poppy Prescott: 'If Only I Hadn't'

[hana-loves-bumblebees]

WAS ANYONE GONNA TELL ME STEVE COOGAN VOICE ACTED FUCKING SILAS FROM DESPICABLE ME 2 & 3 OR WAS I SUPPOSED TO FIND OUT TOTALLY RANDOMLY WHILE MY MUM IS LAUGHING AT MINIONS?!?!?!?

[rottennssoldier]

Dawg how dare she, she didn't let him FINISH.

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[guest2621]

This morning I want to search up their Mandrin name and now I am reviewing it

[annchanorsomethin]

Chapter 10 "Coins and Kois in Paradise" is out!!

Three girls and a time traveler in a mall. Not your usual shopping group. Much less your normal shopping experience... Between finding out much more about the modern and old times and bonding, something feels... odd. As if there is more behind the beloved time traveler, than once thought... But aside from walking around with a person that by all logic should not exist - there is nothing that could possibly go wrong during this harmless little trip, right? Right??

I may have not updated for three months but I believe 16 500 words are three months of writing worth :)

Also I recommend checking the warnings for this one, just in case the subjects trigger you in some way.

Anyhow enjoy as always ^^

[agentsheepblog]

Welcome to the machine an AVL-related sideblog

*deep breath

Okay, so in my main blog (iavulture), I made and reblogged a few posts regarding Despicable Me. Now, I haven't done so for a while, but after getting and replying to comments on my post about my headcanon about Lucy being Silas' adopted daughter (see post titled "Headcanon and story time (related to Despicable Me 2)" in my main blog), one day I thought, "You know what? Let me make a sideblog relating to that one fanfic (and the canon films to a lesser extent).*"

It's a fic set in a Despicable Me AU that takes inspiration and elements from spy/espionage works such as James Bond (which the fic references quite a bit), and largely centers around Lucy and Silas. I will warn you that it's a somewhat darker take on DM, as not only does it take a bit from James Bond, its basis is that of Lucy's past that never really gets explored anywhere else except for this Tweet from 2015.

For those who are interested in the fic I'm talking about, see the link below for the first chapter to get started!

*And sheep. Because it has Mr. Sheepsbutt Ramsbottom as one of the center figures of the fic.

[joethetoonfanandoutcast]

Chapters: 1/? Fandom: Despicable Me (Movies), Sing (Movies 2016 2021), The Secret Life of Pets (Movies), The Grinch (2018), The Lorax (2012), Migration (2023) Rating: Mature Warnings: Graphic Depictions Of Violence, Major Character Death Relationships: Eddie Noodleman & Suki Lane, Felonius Gru/Lucy Wilde Characters: Eddie Noodleman, Suki Lane, Felonius Gru, Lucy Wilde, Silas Ramsbottom, Nooshy (Sing), Porsha Crystal, Wolf | Jimmy Crystal's Bodyguard (Sing), Leopard | Jimmy Crystal's Bodyguard (Sing), The Minions (Despicable Me) Additional Tags: Inspired by Die Hard, Parody, Homage, Christmas, Hanukkah, Kwanzaa, Illumination/Blue Sky Studios, Alternate Universe - Crossover, Setting similar to House of Mouse, Action/Adventure, Crime, cameos galore, I need a better title Summary:

The Illumination characters' holiday party is disrupted by a group of terrorists from another animation studio, out for something, and when everyone's taken hostage, it's up to one individual (or possibly two) to save the holidays. First parody attempt on a Christmas action classic.

[elizaakatee]

Kimji, Ramsbottom

*Pork Bibimbap

[redhatmeg]

In this episode:

Lucy reads on Gru and becomes a fan.

Also:

There is a bad psychoanalysis involved.

Please, review!

@sassypassy @ewa-jednak-chce-spac