#Should I be a pacifist?
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#Stupid#uhhhhhhhh#Whoa-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh#Story of Undertale#I fell from the light#Talk? Or should I fight?#Monster genocide#This my Undertale#I fell through a cave on Mount Ebott#I faced an evil talking flower in a pot#Explains the plot#Wants me dead#wants me to rot#Toriel saves me#takes me to her home#And hooks me up with a#brand-new monster phone#Leaves me alone#But I escape and meet some bones#Should I be a pacifist?#Or should I use my fists?#I'm feeling evil#think#I'll kill them all#I'm homicidal and I've got a taste#I want to wipe out the monster race#I've got no patience#I've got no resolve#I will slaughter#screw the dialogue
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One thing I think I just realized is, in addition to being dissatisfied with how stories deal with Toriel’s grief compared to Asgore’s and Asriel’s, and how I don’t see many instances of Toriel and Asgore’s quarrel being addressed in a way that satisfied me... I don’t think I see that many AUs that quite get the responsibility Asgore feels... right.
Yes, I’ve seen several that portray his grief, depression, and how badly he doesn’t want to be in this position well, even if it’s disappointing how not everyone seems to be aware of what you learn about him in a Neutral run where you’ve previously killed Flowey. A lot of people can get aspects of his characterization very well, the broken man, the goofy dad, the intimidating monarch. But I think the reason I don’t see people capture the weight of his responsibility quite as well in fanfics and comics is... well. Oddly enough it’s in the way the monsters treat him.
It’s not just the fandom that has issues with idolizing or demonizing characters. It’s also the Kingdom of Monsters themselves--and they all idolize Asgore. Yes, he’s a very grounded and compassionate individual who invites his subjects to share all their problems with him, and who Papyrus insists will just let you pass through the Barrier. But he’s also a bit of the subject of a cult of personality for his subjects. When they say he’ll absorb seven souls and become a GOD, it’s not an expression of his arrogance, but rather their own adoration. While out-of-universe the Angel is generally agreed to be either Asriel or Chara(or us), in-universe I wouldn’t be surprised if Asgore was considered the Angel.
It’s not long now. King Asgore will let us go. King Asgore will give us hope. King Asgore will save us all.
Yes, individual monsters may want to collect a human soul for their own individual wants and desires. But it’s only the capture of a human soul, or using a single soul for their own benefit, that they really aspire to. (With the exception of Toriel, who wants no souls, and Flowey, who is Flowey.) Of those area bosses who earnestly try to take just one soul, Papyrus and Undyne both want to hand you over to Asgore, and Mettaton wants to protect humanity FROM Asgore. Literally everyone in the Underground seems to fully believe that Asgore will be the one taking all the Souls and fulfilling his promises, and all are content. (Again, barring Toriel, MTT, Flowey.) No one seems to ever doubt he’ll do as he says, even his ex-wife, and no one’s greedy to take the power for themselves or take the burden of being a savior for themself, except his kid who has both a God Complex and a Savior Complex.
With Chara, and with Asgore. They take a person and turn them into a representation of something More than any singular person could ever be. And then in the worst route Chara does it again, to themself. Asgore is freedom and salvation and retribution itself, and everyone including the woman who was once married to him agrees and reinforces the role. Chara is the feeling of a number going up, and the fandom agrees and reinforces the role.
And I dunno. There are fics and AUs where Asgore never lost his kids and always remained an affable, friendly guy. There are AUs where Asgore is the main antagonist and an awful villain with few redeeming qualities. There are fics and AUs where Asgore gets to recover in a post-pacifist setting. But I’m not sure any fics or AUs have ever quite captured how everyone else just talks about the guy, for me. Toriel is simply ‘intimidating’. But Asgore is a GOD.
#undertale#undertale analysis#undertale meta#asgore#asgore dreemurr#this is why i think in post-pacifist asgore should live far away from all his subjects for a few years#be a normal guy. no responsibilities. let them calm down about the unwanted god-king stuff#like i've seen many stories successfully make asriel or chara feel othered and idolized by the underground but#somehow not asgore as much despite how everyone in-game treats him as a personification of his declaration of war#and lets that be the FIRST thing that influences how they treat him#even undyne to some extent. she's so psyched to free monsterkind. to get him to free monsterkind
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#i think he used to be#a little more#pacifist#they should give diluc ragnvindr a gun#not a fatui rifle#like a glock#a very normal gun#itd be funny#clip studio paint#digital art#diluc#diluc ragnvindr#artist#digitalart#diluc art#diluc genshin impact#genshin impact#genshin#gun#diluc gun
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KIRK: Well, for a man who swore he'd never return to Starfleet...
McCOY: Just a moment, Captain, sir. I'll explain what happened. Your revered Admiral Nogura invoked a little known, and seldom used, reserve activation clause, ...in simpler language, Captain, they drafted me!
KIRK: They didn't.
McCOY: This was your idea! This was your idea, wasn't it?
Can we just reflect on the amount of sheer chutzpah it takes to not only draft one Doctor Leonard "Bones" McCoy back into Starfleet after he's comfortably retired, but also immediately, upon his return, sass him about it?
...it doesn't count as coming crawling back if you're drafted, Kirk
#star trek#star trek tos#leonard mccoy#jim kirk#captain kirk#star trek tmp#star trek the motion picture#bones should have outright punched him#luckily the man is both a pacifist and devoted#kirk: ah yes you've come crawling back to me#bones: if the alternative was prison then i guess so
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stopped reading a fic just there because it was insisting that thor & co went on many violent adventures pre-movies but of course left poor feeble loki behind cos he's a) feeble and b) blessed with a better understanding of imperialism than the rest, and there are a thousand other fics that also think this is obviously what happened but i think i may just have hit my limit on this one :\
#i know it's partly because if thor is Bad then we need loki to have not been on every one of those violent adventures but...#between this and Benevolent Pacifistic Jotuns i doubt many claims of “but *i* enjoy moral complexity!” in fandom#no you don't you just flipped the usual black-and-white morality in a way that doesn't even fit the story very well#FFS i've already got enough to deal with having to pretend that loki's significantly shorter than thor and as muscular as a stick!#and also he can't physically fight anyone when he clearly fucking does on multiple occasions#(but also he apparently SHOULD have won more fights in the loki series because He's Literally A God)#(ie he can fight if fighting is Good but not if it's Bad)#i'm also not a fan of the clear and rather unpleasant subtext in many fics that But Loki *Is* Better Than Those Ungrateful Peasants#*grabs u by the collar homoerotically* DO YOU BELIEVE IN MONARCHIES OR NOT SUSAN?!?! WHICH IS IT?!!#*stares at your mouth for a long long moment before turning away in disgust and also so you don't notice how aroused i am from our battle*
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Yknow, you’re blog reminded me on how I need to watch a No Mercy playthrough because to this day, I’m not quite sure where [PLAYER NAME] ends and ‘Chara’ begins.
i think that's the point! there's a VERY blurry area where we begin, where our role within the story does, what chara is and what frisk does. an intentionally blurry one, at that. and i think no mercy is the one iteration of undertale's story that acts as the exception that makes the rule, neatly and irreparably dividing "us" from "chara".
it's no coincidence that we achieve it in the route where we stack up as much LV as is physically possible, a mechanic textually described as "distancing [you] from yourself".
#but yes you should watch a nm playthrough. watch a live one though you need to perceive the time Dragging out#i recommend pointcrow's#undertale#his VOD of his neutral + pacifist runs too#answered asks#chara#metanalysis
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Perhaps it's the pacifist in me but even if I had to kill someone in 100% justified and ambiguous self-defense there was no other choice, I would be haunted forever by it. I would not desire to kill another person in almost any circumstances. Much less about a fucking TV. Yes, I would most probably grab a stick and kick someone's ass if they tried to harm me or steal from me. I wouldn't even CONCIEVE of killing them.
#cosas mias#I understand that in some times violence is the only option#it should be regrettable and well applied#not something you desire and glorify#but again I am a pacifist
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If you look at my blog it might seem like I only care about Satine as an accessory to my pet toxic yaoi ship, but I do actually care about her as a character who could've been so much more interesting than the very basic characterization they gave her. I've said this before and I maintain it - she should've been a pacifist with a gun. defending that pacifism applies to institutions and governments not to individuals. she should've worn mandalorian armor and she should've kept her blasters eternally set to stun but still visibly carried blasters. she should've punched pre vizsla in the face. she should've punched maul in the face. she should've been padmé's idol, a role model for what she could've been. not impulsive and lovesick like padmé, not willing to risk her life or forgive anything for love like padmé, but a powerful politician who cared for her people and her culture and wouldn't hesitate to pick up a blaster if she had to.
#hm i should make an original post tag#satine#satine kryze#and don't get me wrong i DO love to throw her between obi-wan and maul. it's like enrichment to my enclosure#but she is actually very important influence in those ideas. she's not an accessory she's a hammer and i'm using her to break them#the three of them are like. three points of a triangle. they could make an interesting picture together.#anti-war pacifist x pacifist forced to participate in a war x anti-war violence enthusiast#they are opposites yet complementary in many ways. and it's very interesting to think about.#would be even more fun if satine was the character she is to me and not the caricature of pacifism she is in the show
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I got hit by a huge wave of nostalgia and fell back into the Undertale rabbithole and I just couldn't resist the urge to make a Handplates skeleton lore accurate oc who I am pretty proud of ngl :] adawd
#funnily enough it all started with me finding a commentary of an undertale analog horror#and then i got the mood to play the game and sorta please my inner child by actually completing a true pacifist route#like I shit you not when I first played as a child i just got stuck on the final boss and that was it#i was seething#anyway after that i remembered that a good friend of mine really likes handplates and that I never finished it so I decided#to start watching it and now i'm obsessed X<X#and looking back it's kinda funny how from like my cringey sans fangirl era i grew so much that i can make a balanced and imo well designed#character. still when i was searching other stuff within the fandom it was still nostalgic and sort of heartwarming and interesting to see#how easy it was to impress me at such a young age. man T_T /pos#tbh Undertale holds such a special place in my heart#thinking back if i didn't have these sorta nerdy fixations and interests I would've probably just crumbled and i'm not joking. I'm glad#these things exist#anyway I should probably make an OC intro of this guy sometime#he's called Dr. T. N. Roman btw :] and they're aroace#also they're in a qpr with Gaster bc I love him and yippee#I kinda imagine these silly skeletons like the gems from steven universe (my friend brought this up originally)#like the idea that they have special customs and they probably copulate and multiply differently/asexually.#tbh this kinda skeleverse is steven universe for mlm people /j#auramoeba's art corner#thus spoke auramoeba#auramoeba's ocs#undertale#undertale oc#fan oc#skeleton oc#w d gaster#nostalgia#doomed yaoi
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Really loved this bit of Boothill characterization from the end of the Dreamjoy Memoir travel log quest after Penacony:
Because of course he would notice that. Of course it would resonate with him. The IPC used Penacony in much the same way they used Boothill's homeplanet, Aeragon-Epharshel. He can pick up on all of this because he's lived it. So of course it would speak to him.
It's such a shame he and Captain Revolver's inspiration, Tiernan, never got to meet. I think they would have really gotten along.
#honkai star rail#hsr boothill#hsr#boothill#there is certainly. something. that gets at me about this.#it's in the fact that Boothill doesn't count himself as similar to Tiernan even though I feel like they must have had similar actions/views#he doesn't see himself as a hero by any means even though he gave up everything to hunt down Oswaldo Schneider-#-and put a stop to the violent occupation of Aeragon-Epharshel#you can kinda see it in multiple voicelines of his where he talks about himself and I think even in one of his parlor car lines too#not that I think he's secretly like. some kind gentle bleeding heart pacifist under his bloodthirsty shell or anything fjkldsajflkdsaj#but he should really give himself more credit!#it's ok sweetpea you're a hero to me uwu
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I think it's important to note that I do believe Orym wasn't totally thinking straight when he nodded to Laudna. Because if he'd have been thinking straight, he'd have gotten in front of her and then very efficiently killed Bor'dor himself, and he'd have still been correct for it. Hope this helps. 😌
#anyway! I think maybe we should all revisit the paradox of tolerance! love and light xoxo!#cr spoilers#cr discourse#cuz yanno. that's what we're doing I GUESS.#like did y'all forget he was a bodyguard? he was never some model pacifist antiwar protester?#he prefers to avoid confrontation when possible BECAUSE he knows how messy shit gets. not because he's unwilling.#he didn't leave cuz he couldn't stand to fight for the cause anymore he left cuz he failed at protecting lol#liam pcs show up like 'is anybody going to suffer enormous amounts of survivor's guilt' and don't wait for an answer
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very minor no mercy run spoilers(?) under the cut maybe a little au of sorts?? idk and it's a bit long
honestly, i was happy at the time there wasn't a guardener fight (because i found her fight in the pacifist run kinda difficult) but now that i think about it could be quite... sad? if you know wat i mean?? maybe despite Axis's warning, and, y'know how he looked, she still did what she was programmed to do, which is protect the flowers & stuff like that. plus, she'd probably have much more defense in the geno run, so you'd just LOAD her with bullets, and maybe the backups too, not too sure
anyways, sorry for the block of text, i just think she had a lot of potential (not trying to seem like i don't like uty, of course!)
but basically, Clover would just shoot her with a fuckton of bullets as she slowly died, and some of her systems crash one at a time (idk 'bout that last part though, i'm not really clever when it comes to coding and that kinda stuff)
might make more about this concept, might not, idk
#silverware's art#undertale yellow#undertale yellow guardener#uty guardener#uty#idk if i should tag this as a spoiler or not#i also have a couple headcanons about her in the pacifist ending. and her in general too#not many. but a couple#also also. i really like the lineart on one of the drawings of her on the first image#the top center. in specific#also i kinda think that the one with her slouching could be a spoiler for if you kill her in the neutral run#(or abort pacifist. maybe?)#but whatever. it's alright#also also also. why the fuck is that shitty comic i made blowing up??? it's not even that good??#damn i say “also” a lot-
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randomly hits you with the flowey brainblast
Ok ok hear me out but!!! I think Flowey eventually becomes comfortable living with Toriel at first he just kinda. Sneaks around like a little creep... You know how stray cats will occasionally just hang out for a bit before leaving? I think that's what Flowey did, like he'd just watch Toriel while in little hiding spots because he hadn't really decided by that point if he was ready to go back to being a son along with the anxieties that she wouldn't think he's good enough the way he is and that she'd want Asriel and not him :Ccc... I think he'd occasionally get Toriel a glass of water and tuck her into bed when it gets late or she seems to be relapsing... He'd probably get a little frustrated with her and give her notes sometimes that lightly scold her with like a glass of water/little snack next to it...
At some point I think Toriel would catch the little home intruder and attempt to repay him by letting him stay with her, making him food cause she'd assume he has nowhere to go and that's why he keeps breaking in. Not that she's necessarily wrong about that but he TECHNICALLY has Papyrus to go to. After that he more openly comes and goes and will occasionally talk to her but still be too nervous,,, they chat every now and again about things, sometimes wacky and mundane and other times kind of deep. Toriel and Flowey grow close, and she'd eventually tell him he's like a son to her and he doesn't have to leave if he doesn't want to because she's more than ok with him being there. Flowey can't take it anymore so he admits it. He used to be Asriel. The reason he's like a son to her is because he is her son. Toriel just isn't sure how to process it at first. She tries to see any hints of him messing with her but she can tell this is the most genuine he's ever been in his life. They both cry a little cry a lot,,, Toriel tells him that for so long Asriel's birthday has been the hardest for her. She remembered it after all this time and marked it on the calendar. Flowey pretends to not know already because he likes the smile she gets on her face when she thinks he's learning she really cares about him.
#flowey#flowey headcanon#flowey undertale#toriel#toriel and flowey :)#they make me happy#best mother son duo i think#i should talk about toriel more........#smiles at you#was going to doodle for this but it turned into a ramble#i hope this makes sense#undertale#post pacifist#long post#text post#i think theyre neat#i think flowey is very mischievous and toriel just kinda Sighs.#but i think sometimes she'd break and just laugh at his antics cause how do you even do this flowey?????#i think frisk goes home after everything to explain why toriel would be lonely btw#that doesn't mean they ditch all their monster friends it just happens they have a family to go back home to
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nobody fucking touch me rn i went to see tf one in the cinema and im shaking. they actually made a good transformers movie. what the fuck
#time to go home and read the entirety of jro's mtmte and lost light again ig#what the FUCK i was not expecting it to be actually fucking stunning. that's MY loser dumpster fire of a children's toy franchise how did t#ey actually make it . good#really good#five out of five stars. when elita said “you dont have the touch or the power” i fucking choked#obviously it is only going to mire the canon more because of the changes to megatron's backstory (no gladiators 😔) & lack of allspark plot#but i dont even fucking care. dont even touch me rn i cant ever get over this#broken friendships & corruption arcs are THE SHIT and they did this one better than i was expecting#when pax fell like a falling star... primus itself opened to him...#ratchet cameo! arcee cameo! jazz cameo! not to mention ALPHA TRION#i can see the war in this . i can see this . millions of years in the future they will still b fighting. orion mightve been a “pacifist” by#megatron's standards but he knows how to fight. he fights more than he should. and bee.... bee... THATS MY FUCKING NAMESAKE GUYS DONT EVEN#TOUCH ME RN. IM SHAKING. HOLY SHIT#bumblebee you are SUCH a dork. what the FUCK.#and the quintessons!!!!! i am LIVING for the art direction and the organic/inorganic imagery#those quintesson energon-hoover things reminded me of energon eaters too. & in that first shot of them entering the cave w the primes i#originally thought scraplets before i came back to myself. there's something to be said here tho.#they did a good job with the worldbuilding. suitably alien-like. exceeded expectations. that ginormous quintesson ship? i'm going insane#you can SEE the birth of the myth in this stupid fucking movie you can SEE how op becomes who he becomes. the way he grew. the way they bot#grew until they were the only person that could hold the other back . the way he is going to be irreversibly changed. d16's eyes...#that scene w starscream has a chokehold on me. i cant breathe. the way they all looked at megatron when his blaster emerged#the fight scenes#ELITA ONE !!!#AIRACHNID !!!!#honest to god though i must confess that the first coherent thought i had about this movie was “oh they made him so cunty” . abt pax. i#am so sorry#but okay okay okay i . they were amica endura at the beginning. at the least. i'm. AKHRERJGH#tf one#me when megatron ascended out of iacon & he was the only land vehicle amid a swarm of planes. me when the SYMBOLISM#🐝
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Tritober day?? I don’t remember the day but it was the blood prompt IM NOT IMMUNE TO VAMPIRE VASH PROPAGANDA
#tritober#digital drawing#digital painting#digital art#trigun fanart#vash the stampede#trigun the stampede#vashwood#trigun#trigun stampede#trigun vash#vashwood fanart#trigun art#vampire vash#listen pacifist character with a blood lust is GREAT#I think we as a society should let Vash go bat shit insane#as a treat#a little treat#I just want him a bit insane#silly yeah but let him SNAP
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I got bored during class and drew my favourite little loser
#my art#alphys undertale#undertale#undertale pacifist#yeah photoshop flowey was the easiest fight of my entire life ngl#shes so babygirl#alphys my beloved#shes so cute#i want her to kiss undyne and live out all her fanfiction with her and infodump about anime to her#UNDYNE AND ALPHYS SHOULD KISS ALREADYYYYY
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