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liberty1776 · 1 year ago
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Christian Zionism part 2: Why Christian Zionism Is a Problem
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msclaritea · 2 months ago
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aranyadev · 4 months ago
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liberty1776 · 3 months ago
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Just be certain you have nothing to do with the Scofield Reference Bible, it is full of misleading false doctrine ment to deceive you. It is the source of the wrong headed idea that Christians should support Israel, that has decieved so many American Christians,
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wutbju · 10 months ago
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Who had a Scofield? New or Old?
ACCLAIMED throughout the evangelical world, The New Scofield Reference Bible is a timely selection for personal use and for every gift occasion.
Thousands of additional cross references, expanded footnotes, and other improved helps are featured in this new edition of the Bible treasured by readers for more than half a century.
Edited by a distinguished committee of evangelical scholars, The New Scofield Reference Bible retains the theological position of its famous predecessor and includes all the well-known Scofield features.
"A great improvement ... Readers who are devoted to the Scofield Reference Bible and its system of interpretation owe it to themselves to secure this up-to-date volume."- Christian Life
"The new edition of the Scofield Bible possesses all the advantages of the older book and many commendable improvements. It would be difficult to envision a better reference Bible for Christians without theological knowledge. Most serious Christians will want this book for their libraries." - Russell T. Hitt, Eternity
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huntunderironskies · 2 years ago
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Can I ask what 'premillenial dispensationalism' is ?
oh no i have to explain the scofield bible
Side note, I picked a bad time to finish this, I meant to have it done earlier but I've been super busy. Everything here is dead serious, sadly. If I get another follow-up to this, as a warning I will take forever to respond because I try to make these as informative and respectful as possible.
I'm going to put this below a cut. As a content warning, this talks about end-of-the-world stuff and touches on conspiracy theories and antisemitism, so take care if that's a touchy subject for you. It's impossible to talk about this in any depth without it leading into these topics. I'm going to try and keep to the things I know about so I don't make any missteps which is why I'm focusing more on the academic/scholarly aspects.
Alright, so. The idea of the apocalypse most people in America are familiar with is the one that starts with the Rapture. Unless you've been raised in certain groups or God zaps up all the good people to the sky and then there's a bunch of bad stuff that happens and then Jesus shows up to establish a Kingdom of God and after a thousand years of perfect rule and then there's one final battle against Satan and then the world gets destroyed, and everyone either goes to Hell forever or goes to Heaven.
Anyways, that's all about like, three hundred years old, tops AFAIK? More specifically just regarding the Rapture and what comes after it, the eternal misery thing is way older. To be clear, no serious religious scholar would think that this was what anyone who scribed early transcripts that would be compiled into the Bible saw as true, and most serious religious scholars aka people who didn't go to Liberty University or its copycats OHHHHHHHHHHH BURN sorry i'm bitter don't even think that this is close to what apocalypticism was preached by Jesus and those who came soon after him.
Now, I am not stupid enough to argue that apocalypticism isn't a core part of Christian texts (again, Jesus was definitively an apocalyptic preacher, there is zero doubt about that in any serious academic environment) but Revelations was a book added in by the Nicene Council three hundred years after the death of Jesus, and it was one of many apocalyptic texts. It just happens to be the one that made the cut, and it's one of the most metaphorical ones that has lent itself to people making some....very odd interpretations. Its writer also may have been tripping on cave shrooms but, while that does make a very fun story to tell at dinner to make religious studies sound less dry as a field, much like Satre and the mescaline crabs with philosophy, it's not a generally accepted theory.
But Satre really did take a bad hit of mescaline that made him hallucinate crabs for months, that actually happened.
Anyways. Highly metaphorical text. There's a case to be made that this was deliberate, because yelling "I HOPE GOD HITS NERO WITH A LIGHTNING BOLT" in a crowded forum will not end well. For example, you may or may not be familiar with the scholarly theory that the Number of the Beast is supposed to be a numerical cipher for Nero, and a lot of apocalyptic texts were just people saying "no guys, really, everyone who fucked us over is absolutely going to get smoted by God, because God told me so" as a morale boosting exercise. It's just that the Roman Empire happened to be most of the known world at the time, and it's not like even modern people have the best conceptualization of what a global society looks like anyway because our brains are mostly incapable of doing so. This isn't far off flood myths being based on catastrophic river flooding and then things getting embellished over time. Again, that little geographic reason was their world.
Though, I mean, if they were trying to say the fall of Rome would happen, they were right, it's just that the oppressive march of time would've ensured that happened eventually.
The problem is that you end up with morons a thousand and some spare change years down the line who decide to impose entirely different geopolitical standards onto it and that's where the Scofield Reference Bible comes in.
So the Scofield Reference Bible traces its origins to just before World War I, and the sharp among you in the crowd may begin to see where this is going. World War I was a brutal, horrific experience, and it was (probably, I've only taken 200 level history courses) the first global experience. And the Book of Revelation describes plagues (Spanish Flu), horrible afflictions (side effects of chemical warfare), and...well, yeah, war. While the Scofield Bible predates the war, it exploded in popularity because at the time it felt real.
Mister Scofield Reference Bible (Cyrus Scofield) was inspired by the preacher John Nelson Darby, with whom he was roughly contemporaneous with, and don't worry, you will never need to remember those names again because that's the only real contribution they've ever made to theology. Darby wouldn't have called himself a dispensationalist, the term was coined post-publication against his will after he died by someone who didn't like him, but that's the term we landed on.
To break down the name: dispensationalism refers to the idea that you can neatly divide up the history of the world into what amounts to theological epochs defined by a cycle of divine test > failure > judgement ending with the final dispensation, which will be Judgement Day itself. The "millennial" bit does not refer to an actual millennium but rather the Millennial Kingdom, which will be the actual-factual physical Kingdom of God.
This is the one thing that's probably kind of accurate to what pre-Nicene Christians would have believed, most people assumed that the Kingdom of God was just a restored version of Israel before all the invasions happened ruled by a divinely appointed prophet. No heavenly firmament or fluffy clouds or whatever.
The part where it's not accurate is the fluffy clouds Kingdom exists and that's where all the believers go to chill while the apocalypse is happening, though. That's a core concept of things, and that's the Rapture that pretty much any American would be familiar with
The modern version of this also includes some weirdly specific things like? For some reason it's generally accepted that people will go to Heaven naked and leave their clothes behind. I don't think this is in the Scofield Reference Bible, and I honestly don't know where this originated from. Could be as recent as Hal Lindsay for all I know. It was definitely in Left Behind, which was the other thing that caused a massive resurgence despite being probably one of the worst pieces of fiction ever published, theologian/blogger/fellow Gemini (<- most important quality) Slacktivist took like eight years to get through covering the first two books both in terms of how bad the theology is, the characters not acting like actual people, the plot not making sense, and how much the books reveal about the neuroses of both writers.
While that's fairly harmless, it's had some pretty sinister effects. Aside from the obvious, if you keep up with global politics at all, you're aware of the fact that America is extremely interested in keeping Israel in power as a state. I am very stupid except on very specific topics that are not this (and there is so much going on with colonialist interference in the Middle East to cover), not Palestinian or Israeli, and too tired to deal with attracting the bad kind of weirdoes to my blog so I'm going to put it this way. One, apartheid is bad, free Palestine. Two, and more within my wheelhouse so I can speak more in detail about this, the only reason that this is happening is because premillennial dispensationalist Christians think that Israel needs to exist as a geographical and political concept because the battle of Judgment Day is supposed to happen there, at which point the armies of God will defeat Satan and the world ends.
Not before all the surviving Jewish people convert to Christianity, the ~*~true religion~*~, though.
If it wasn't clear, the tildes and asterixes were a sarcasm tag, I just realized if you didn't spend an unfortunate amount of your life on Livejournal that might not be clear.
So, to be blunt, these people do not give a shit about actual Jewish people. Do not mistake this for anything other than a means to an end and they'll let anything happen to make sure that end comes about. Or actively help, for that matter. I said that I would get into conspiracy theories, the bit about needing Israel so the end of the world can happen is not a conspiracy theory. The saturation rate of evangelical dispensationalists in US government is incredibly high. Evangelicals actively drive public policy. When you know what to look for it's blatantly obvious I can get together a reading list at some point or another but it might take a while and this post is already very very long and meandering and sometimes barely on topic.
Anyways. The short of it is: From a sociology of religion perspective, it's accepted that Jesus was a Jewish apocalyptic preacher. Apocalypticism was very in vogue at the time and we can say with reasonable certainty (note: when a religious studies scholar uses the term, they mean "this definitely happened, it's just we can't perform necromancy to 100% confirm it") he was not the only one running around. He's addressed as "rabbi" by his disciples if that wasn't immediately clear. A refusal to acknowledge the realities of the world circa Jesus's life and treating the Bible as an unerring word of God (except when it's convenient to ignore certain bits) instead of a historical source, and all the issues that comes with it, has led to some extremely bad things. Ammon Hennacy was right, we are in Hell.
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agreenroad · 8 months ago
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A Journey Through Bible Versions; First Bible In 48 AD, Then Geneva, Scofield/King James, Slave Bible, NIV Versions; What Are Differences? Why Are They Different? Christ's 3 Promises
Isaiah 43:19 Behold, I will do a new thing; now it shall spring forth; shall ye not know it? I will even make a way in the wilderness, and rivers in the desert. Why did the ‘official’ Christian Bible change from the original “one gospel and eleven books into 73 books and four gospels over time”? https://www.amazon.com/Very-First-Bible-Marcion-Sinope/dp/0578641593 Why are there currently some…
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adverbian · 1 year ago
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*slams door open again* AND ANOTHER THING
The way premillennial dispensationalists read the Bible reminds me of nothing so much as the way the Nutter-Device family reads the Nice and Accurate Prophecies of Agnes Nutter, Witch.
(It’s all the Scofield Reference Bible’s fault)
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liberty1776 · 2 months ago
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WRONG!! This is the Dispensationalists End times Nonsense of Christian Zionism. Not true Christian Doctrine. There is no mention of a Rapture in the Bible. 1 Thessalonians 4:16 is about what happens to the living followers of Jesus at the time of the second coming. They are caught up to meet Jesus and accompany him back to earth, The Tribulation was a historical period before the Destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple by the Romans in AD 70. The whole book of Revolution is actually a description of Gods Wrath against the Jews for murdering Jesus. it is mostly past history rather than a predictions of future events. Throw away your Scofield Reference Bible, and get out of any church where the preacher uses it. Find a church that teaches true Christian Doctrine. The the real order of events using the above numbers is 2, already happened, then 1 and 3 part of same event. Dispensationalism is a new false belief never taught by the church until about a century ago. It is very Zionist and used to justify the modern nation state of Israel, which actually has no Biblical or historical reason to exist, all the promises God made to Abraham were ethe fulfilled in the old Testament times or with the birth of Jesus. The Old Covenant ended when the Jews failed to live up to their part of the bargain, We are now under a new Covenant based on Jesu's promise to the Christian Church, God's new chosen people.
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The Rapture: 1 Thessalonians 4:16-18 7 Year Tribulation: Revelation 6:1-10:11, 14:1-19:10 2nd Coming of Christ: Luke 21:25-28, Rev 1:7
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reality-detective · 1 year ago
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How Christians Were Hoodwinked By The Scofield Bible. 🤔
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aranyadev · 11 months ago
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starseedpatriot · 5 months ago
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The Scofield Bible—The Book That Made Zionists of America’s Evangelical Christians
Although the Scofield Reference Bible contains the text of the King James Authorized Version, it is Scofield’s notes that have induced generations of American evangelicals to believe that God demands their uncritical support for the modern State of Israel.
“…someone was directing the career of C.I. Scofield - Wall Street lawyer Samuel Untermeyer.”
Scofield’s theology was “most helpful in getting Fundamentalist Christians to back the international interest in one of Untermeyer’s pet projects—the Zionist Movement.”
“Untermeyer used Scofield, a Kansas City lawyer with no formal training in theology, to inject Zionist ideas into American Protestantism. Untermeyer and other wealthy and influential Zionists whom he introduced to Scofield promoted and funded the latter’s career”
https://www.wrmea.org/2015-october/the-scofield-bible-the-book-that-made-zionists-of-americas-evangelical-christians.html
https://t.me/LauraAbolichannel
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memphisfoodnotbombs · 1 year ago
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Christian Zionism emerged as a distinct movement during the 19th century, although its theological roots can be traced back to earlier times.The origins of Christian Zionism can be found in the 16th and 17th centuries when various Protestant theologians, such as John Bale and Thomas Brightman, interpreted biblical passages to suggest a future restoration of the Jews to Israel. They believed that the fulfillment of these prophecies would occur before the Second Coming of Christ and saw the return of the Jews to the Holy Land as a necessary precursor to the end times.In the 19th century, the interest in biblical prophecy and the restoration of Israel gained momentum among Protestant Christians, primarily in Europe and North America. This coincided with the rise of the Zionist movement among Jewish intellectuals and activists in the late 19th and early 20th centuries.Many Christian theologians, preachers, and organizations like the British and Foreign Bible Society and the London Society for Promoting Christianity Amongst the Jews actively supported the idea of a Jewish return to their ancestral homeland. They viewed it as the fulfillment of biblical prophecy and a necessary condition for the return of Christ.Key figures in the early Christian Zionist movement include William Hechler, a British clergyman who was a close confidant of Theodor Herzl, the founder of modern political Zionism. Hechler's theological beliefs were influential in shaping Herzl's ideas about the Jewish return to Israel.Christian Zionism also gained significant support amongst American evangelicals, especially during the 19th and 20th centuries. Evangelical leaders like John Nelson Darby, a prominent dispensationalist theologian, and Cyrus I. Scofield, who popularized dispensationalism through his widely read Scofield Reference Bible, played a crucial role in promoting the idea of a Jewish restoration to the Holy Land as a fulfillment of biblical prophecy.Dispensationalists emphasize the literal interpretation of biblical prophecy, including the belief in a future literal return of Jesus Christ to establish a physical kingdom on earth. They also distinguish between God's plan for Israel and the Church, seeing them as distinct entities with different purposes.Dispensationalists believe that there will be a future period, typically known as the "Great Tribulation," during which many Jewish people will come to faith in Jesus as the Messiah. They anticipate a significant ingathering of Jewish people to the Christian faith.
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walkswithmyfather · 2 years ago
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“Because if you confess with your mouth “Jesus is Lord” and in your heart you have faith that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. Trusting with the heart leads to righteousness, and confessing with the mouth leads to salvation. The scripture says, “All who have faith in him won’t be put to shame”. There is no distinction between Jew and Greek, because the same Lord is Lord of all, who gives richly to all who call on him. “All who call on the Lord’s name will be saved.” —Romans 10:9‭-‬13 (CEB)
“So faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.” —Romans 10:17 (WEB)
“Healing Is a Part of the Gospel” By Kenneth E. Hagin:
“Paul preached the gospel of salvation which includes healing. The Bible simply calls it the gospel. How do we know he did? Look at Romans 1:16:
“For I am not ashamed of THE GOSPEL OF CHRIST: for it is the power of God unto SALVATION to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.” (KJV)
The footnote in the Scofield Bible says, “The Hebrew and Greek words for salvation imply the ideas of deliverance, safety, preservation, healing, and soundness.” I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ! It is the power of God unto deliverance, safety, preservation, healing, and soundness. Paul preached the full gospel, not just part of it.
We also know that healing was a part of the gospel that was preached because other scriptures indicate it as well:
Acts 8:5‭-‬8. “Philip went down to a city in Samaria and proclaimed the Messiah there. When the crowds heard Philip and saw the signs he performed, they all paid close attention to what he said. For with shrieks, impure spirits came out of many, and many who were paralyzed or lame were healed. So there was great joy in that city.” (NIV)
James 5:14‭-‬16. “Is anyone among you sick? Let them call the elders of the church to pray over them and anoint them with oil in the name of the Lord. And the prayer offered in faith will make the sick person well; the Lord will raise them up. If they have sinned, they will be forgiven. Therefore confess your sins to each other and pray for each other so that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous person is powerful and effective.” (NIV)
In the gospel of Jesus Christ, there is provision for every need —salvation, deliverance, safety, preservation, healing, and soundness. Whatever need you have, the faith to receive your answer comes from hearing the Word of God. As you determine to feed upon the Word continually, you will see your faith grow to be able to receive the wonderful promises God has provided for His children.” Amen! 🙏🕊️🙌
[From the Bible Faith Study Course by Kenneth E. Hagin.]
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labbaik-ya-hussain-as · 9 months ago
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The Israelites named in the Bible are NOT Israel of today.
(This short article will really annoy the Zionists as they are not as elect as they falsely believe. There is nothing special or superior about them. There never was and there never will be.)
There are a lot of Christian Zionists still defending Israel as God’s “chosen people” and say the Bible proves and states all Israel will be saved. They wrongly identify the Jewish nation as all of Israel. First off, very few of Jews today can prove that they are from the Tribe of Judah. That is where the term Jew comes from. Jews only represent 2 of Israel’s ancient 12 Tribes, Judah, and Benjamin. None of the other 10 Tribes were ever referred to as Jews.
Israel as a single Kingdom was only ever unified during the rules of two kings, David and his son, Solomon. This was from 1003 B.C. to 930 B.C. After this the nation was separated in two, The Northern Kingdom, and Judea, The Southern Kingdom as depicted in the attached map.
The 10 Tribes, Israel were captured by the vast Assyrian Empire in 722 B.C. and dispersed among the nations throughout the world. They were never and will never be Jews. They have different identities and nationalities now as Gentiles. Before the 10 Tribes were conquered by Assyria in 722 B.C. they were known as the Northern Kingdom, Israel, Ephraim, and Samaria. The Northern Kingdom of Israel, the Ten, and The Southern Kingdom, the Two were in constant unrest and even civil war.
The Southern Kingdom was known as Judea and Jerusalem. That is where the term Jew was established. After they were taken captive by Babylon in 597 B.C. Judea returned to Jerusalem as a small nation in 536 B.C. after Cyrus’s edict in 538 B.C.
The Jews/Judeans rejected Jesus Christ as Messiah. They had Him crucified. The Bible foretold this would happen through the Prophets. Christianity spread throughout gentile nations and up until today Christ is still rejected by the Jews and in extreme cases they blaspheme Him in their religious writings.
People, please if you want to make the argument that the Jews alone are God’s “chosen people” please go and read your Bibles.
Also, God’s promises to Abraham were to all of his descendants, that includes his firstborn son Ishmael, who is the forefather of the Arab nations. They have just as much, if not more validity to live on the lands God promised to Abraham, because they can prove that they are Semites, and also Hebrews. The modern-day Jews who are Ashkenazi and Khazars, have trouble showing their lineage. They are imposters.
Does anyone ask what happened to Esau’s descendants, the Edomites? Jacob pretended to be Esau, his brother, to receive the firstborn birthright from their father Isaac. Maybe Esau’s descendants are now trying to pretend they are Jacob. Just a thought to ponder over.
My last point is that none of this matters, regardless of what race, ethnic group, etc. you are. We are all equals before God. He shows no favor, and there is no such thing as God’s chosen people. We are all His people, even if there are people who believe in a God or not.
Zionist indoctrination over the past 100 years have blinded Christians to excuse the State of Israel of any and all wrongdoings, including this current genocide on Palestinians who were robbed of their homeland. The Scofield Study Bible played a major part by distorting Scripture, and modern-day Pastors with enormous followings like John Hagee serve their Zionist masters, not their congregations.
Gaza as can be seen on the map was never part of any Israelite or Judean kingdom. Biblical Israel and the State of Israel are not the same. You can take the position that all I just mentioned is fiction. The reason I share this though is just to prove that the current validation by some for the State of Israel's abhorrent behavior has no basis. Not in ancient writings or anywhere else.
There are some extremists who believe that the rightful heir to the throne of David is the British King, king Charles, who believes they are the direct lineage of David's offspring. Look up the Stone of Scone to see that myth. People around the world will make ridiculous claims for the sake of power. If you lie, lie big.
Modern day Israel has as much claim to the land as Micronesians have.
In the times we are living in this rhetoric of “God’s chosen people” sounds similar to “The Master Race” and we all know how that turned out.
Thank you for reading and please research my work and hold it up to scrutiny. I also ask kindly if you would share my work which will help get the truth out during these times. My gratitude to all my readers.
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deblala · 5 days ago
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The Jewish Created Scofield Bible by Candace Owens
https://rumble.com/v5qnzi8-the-jewish-created-scofield-bible-by-candace-owens.html?mref=wrdkl&mrefc=2
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