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arc-misadventures · 3 years ago

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More Jaune arc the traitor what does Adam think of the relationship between Sienna and Jaune

On Your Left

Adam: Oww…

Jaune: Ahem…! O…?!

Adam: Don’t! Don’t say it… please don’t say it…

Jaune: …

Jaune: On your left~!

Adam: Rahhh?!!

Jaune: Oh, this will never get old~!

Adam: It is! It’s very old! Will you ever stop?!

Jaune: As soon as you remember one very, very important lesson, you know what that is; Hmm? Hmmm?!

Adam: Haaa… Watch my blindside…?

Jaune: Yes! Watch your literal blindside! And, before you ask, I will continue to exploit it until you learn to watch it!

Adam: Rahh! I don’t have this problem at, Beacon! Why is it only with you?

Jaune: 1: I trained you; I taught you the majority of the things you know. So therefore, I have an unfair advantage against you. 2: I am well, well know for being a highly skilled strategist; you know this. So this means…?

Adam: Because you’ve know me for years, and because of that, you how I think too…?

Jaune: Correct. I’ve know you long enough, I know how you think and how to exploit it. And, how do I do that?

Adam: …

Jaune: …

Adam: You kept attacking me hard to my right flank, and only my right flank… Forcing me to focus all of my attention on the right… Wearing me down bit by bit with each attack… Then, you fainted an attack from the right, and quickly hit me hard on the left?

Jaune: Excellent! That’s precisely what I did! You’re fatal flaw is that you can become rather, pardon the expression, bullheaded. Forgetting about everything else, hyper focusing on what’s ahead of you. I just need to rile you up and then hit your blindside.

Adam: ‘Pardon the expression…?’

Jaune: No.

Adam: Grahh?!!

Jaune: Oh, get up ya big baby. We’re done training for today. I don’t want to rough you up too much, now do we? You’re going back to Beacon in a few days as is. Can’t send you back with your leg in a cast.

Adam: You wouldn’t do that! R-Right…?

Jaune: Intentionally. After all…

Adam: You never know what’s going to happen in the next five minutes.

Jaune: Oi! That’s my line!

Adam: Hehe!

Jaune: Cheeky bugger… So, are you ready to go back?

Adam: More or less. I just need to do some packing, and I’ll be ready to go back.

Jaune: No, what I meant was: Are you ready to go back, with Blake?

Adam: Oh… With, Blake… uhh… yeah…

Jaune: You’re not ready.

Adam: Absolutely not…

Jaune: Okay… Want my advice?

Adam: Please! You’re dating, Sienna Khan! If anyone knows how to deal with a fierce cat lady, its you!

Jaune: Okay, first off, Blake is nothing like, Sienna. If you upset, Blake she would give the cold shoulder for a few days, and after a while. And, after you apologize she’ll come back to you. If you upset, Sienna, she would rip off your horns with her bare hands and gut you with them.

Adam: …

Adam: Has she actually…?

Jaune: …

Adam: Best not to ask…

Jaune: Smart lad. That being said; she has permission from, Kali to do just that, and more to you if you upset her baby in anyway.

Adam: N-Noted…

Jaune: Good.

Adam: Jaune, can I ask a you a question?

Jaune: Shoot.

Adam: The relationship between me, and Blake… do you think I could make it something like you, and Sienna have?

Jaune: Oh~! Has my little brother finally reached the cusps of adult hood and has learned of the beauty od woman and finally fallen in love?! This is a momentous occasion! Stand still, I need to send a photo to, Kali!

Adam: No! No photos! Stop! Stop that!

Jaune: Hehe… You’re too easy to tease.

Adam: Am not!

Jaune: Only when, Blake is involved. You’ve always been a blushing mess around her.

Adam: What, am not!

Jaune: You keep believing that bud…

Adam: Nahhh! Forget that; do you think we have a chance or not?

Jaune: Yes. But, it all depends on you.

Adam: What do you mean?

Jaune: Adam, I honestly never thought I would ever be romantically involved with an… anyone, after what I did. Then, Sienna came along and made sure that didn’t happen. My life has become much, much better ever since that day. My biggest regret would be if I ever lost it… Haa… I think you two have a chance of becoming something more. So long as you are able to keep, and maintain it that is.

Adam: Do you think I can?

Jaune: Don’t think you can; prove that you can! You understand?

Adam: Y-Yeah, I understand.

Jaune: Good, very good. Keep that up, and you just might get what you desire.

Adam: Alright, let’s do this!

Jaune: That’s the spirit! Now, lets go and get something to eat. I’m starving.

Adam: Yeah, me too.

Jaune: By the by; The threat about Sienna gutting you with your horns still stands.

Adam: Noted…

Jaune: Good~!

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Side note about this story:

Jaune is older in this, late twenties, Sienna in her early twenties.

Jaune saved Adam at a young age after he got branded. So, Adam isn’t as angry as he was in Og RWBY, but, he’s still scarred. The pair have developed a brotherly relationship since then.

Jaune has been at, Menagerie for a long time now, and has been living there as a huntsman helping defend it from Grimm, and training future, Hunters to help defend it. Including Adam, and Blake.

More in later updates.

Till later then.

#rwby #jaune arc #adam taurus #blake belladonna #sienna khan #kali belladonna #sienna x jaune #jaune x sienna #rwby tigherknight #traitor of atlas

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kob131 · 2 years ago

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Fucking hell, someone wrote a hitpiece on Ice queendom, calling Weiss Schnee the fictional embodiment of White Supremacy (not RWBY proper, RWBY Ice Queendom). Will send if you're drunk enough to rip it a new one.

RWBY: Ice Queendom’s Weiss Schnee Embodies White Supremacy (cbr.com)

Do not click the link. Not because this is virus filled nor gore filled nor am I begging for you to not fact check me-

But because you'll be giving them money.

Another main character who is determined to become a Huntress is Weiss Schnee, the wealthy daughter of Jacques Schnee and heiress of the highly profitable Schnee Dust Company. To accomplish this life goal, Weiss enrolls in the Beacon Academy and is placed in a group with Ruby, Yang and Blake after she successfully survives her entrance exam. Despite Weiss wanting to forge her own path in life as opposed to being bound to her family legacy, she quickly proves to be an unpleasant person to her teammates and many other people at her school. While there's no question Weiss is a highly skilled fighter, her narcissism is the worst thing about her, as it is shaped by white supremacy.

Okay so first off- There is no races in Remnant. There are humans and there are Fanaus, who are basically a different species. Yes people have different skin tones but no one cares about that and they can come from any Kingdom or location. So 'white supremacy' doesn't even fit.

Second- Weiss very much DOES want to follow her family legacy. Ice Queendom STILL exists with the context of the original series which showed that Weiss' family was originally a good and well meaning group with her maternal grandfather Nicolas, only recently turning sour with Jacques taking over. Which parallels the WF with Blake, Ghira and Adam/Sienna. Kind of an important detail.

Throughout RWBY: Ice Queendom Episode 1, audience members are shown the highly privileged world Weiss is born into. One thing that stands out right away is how much her lifestyle resembles that of a European elite from the 18th century. Apart from living in a large, luxurious mansion that's accessible to no one outside their circle, it's also established that the Schnee family amassed their wealth by hoarding the world's most valuable resource and profiting from it. This alone is indicative of a history of exploitation colonialism -- a major hallmark of imperialism, which also comes from a place of white supremacy.

Yes, a European elite...which includes all of the life and death fights and famlial abuse one could ever ask for.

Yeah uh, for the like 0.2 people reading this that don't know this- Weiss had to fight a rigged battle against a deadly Grimm to go to Beacon and not Atlas, which would keep her under her father's direct thumb. She has also been shown to be used and ignored by her father, up to and including financial abuse through cutting her off when she didn't talk to him and using her for a PR stunt despite her clear discomfort and after a DEEPLY TRAMUATIC EVENT.

Also- the Schnee Dust Company doesn't hoard shit. They MINE and REFINE Dust. Are they predatory and drive out competition? Yes but that is not HOARDING.

Further building on the theme of exploitation colonialism is how the Schnee family exploits the labor of a vulnerable population known as the Faunus. Although they resemble human beings, they have some animal-like traits that cause the Schnees to abuse them like animals. This is no different from the way real-life white European settlers exploited and abused Black and Indigenous people through slave labor. Within the context of Remnant, the Schnees' abuse and exploitation of the Faunus is what led to the radicalization of some group members known as the White Fang, who fight for their liberation by hurting the Schnees' profits.

No, it's more similar to Jim Crow laws in that Atlas society still looks down on Fanaus so they don't get as many rights. The Schnees don't OWN them, they are just used like it. Not to mention the SCHNEES don’t do it- JACQUES SCHNEE does. Willow, Whitely and Winter never abuse any Fanaus in the show and Weiss does the OPPOSITE. But hey, nuance written by two drunk guys is just too much to handle eh?

Also, the WF isn't focused on cutting into the SDC's profits- That is never once stated. And in the show, it’s clear it’s just basic retaliation for their business practices. Which even Weiss doesn’t agree with.

The family's abusive treatment of the Faunus and other groups is further reflected in Weiss' own treatment of her classmates at the Beacon Academy. On her way to the school entrance exam, where she has to work alongside another classmate to fight her way through a forest and collect an artifact, Weiss is seen talking over lower-class students commenting unfavorably on her family. When they especially discuss the Schnees' exploitation of their workers, Weiss' bigoted views of the lower classes and Faunus really come through, and tends to categorize people in extremely black-and-white terms: groups of people are either all good or all bad.

...Did you break into my grandpa’s stash or something?

Weiss only ever talks down to Ruby and Jaune. With Ruby, it was because she was acting immature and not taking things seriously. With Jaune it’s because...he’s Jaune. Everyone shits on Jaune. His own voice actor shits on him. That’s just who Jaune is.

None of this has ANYTHING to do with them being class or status or...whatever! It has to do with Weiss being a stereotypical spoiled princess archetype.

Oh and Weiss only ever judged the Fanaus...who she was only exposed to through the terroristic White Fang. She never claims humans are better so not only is the ‘white’ in white supremacy dead here- so is the SUPREMACY PART.

Another major hallmark of Weiss' white supremacist upbringing is her tendency to subscribe to her own exceptionalism, which blinds her to the reality of her place as an oppressor with unearned privileges among disenfranchised people. This is mostly notable through her tendency to disregard other people's rules so that she always gets her way. Her first attempt at "bending" the rules in her favor came in the form of trying to recruit Pyrrha into her group for the entrance exam, even though the rules explicitly stated she had to team up with the first person she encountered in the forest.

It. Was. A. JOKE.

Look, I know that they’re talking about Weiss in Ice Queendom so it seems that I shouldn’t be judging them based on the original show...but Ice Queendom wasn’t made to exist in a vaccum. Judging from how it cut certain parts of the show- It’s made to exist ALONGSIDE the original, not as a replacement. That’s why it can get away with cutting JNPR’s scenes- it’s not meant to replace the original but be a side story focused on Team RWBY. It’s also why they have so much focus on iconic scenes from Volume 1- Fanservice.

You need the context of the original to be primed for Ice Queendom. But this article seems to be completely IGNORANT of the original. So they keep fucking up.

Oh and P.S. Blake, that disenfranchised person, had a loving father and mother. Something Weiss never had. ... Really shows you how this oppression bullshit can fall apart huh?

Weiss' reasoning for wanting Pyrrha in her group is the same reason she rejects offers from other students like Jaune Arc; she perceives Pyrrha to be of a superior human race, whereas she thinks of Jaune as being in a class beneath her. Although Pyrrha acts coolly around Weiss to maintain group harmony, it's clear she's not impressed with her narcissism and avoids her in the forest when the entrance exam starts. When it becomes clear to Weiss that she isn't going to get her way, she paints herself as the victim and blames other people for her own actions.

Please...go back to claiming Jaune is a misogynyist. Because we found something even dumber than ‘Jaune Arc is wish fulfillment power fantasy’.

Weiss' final attempt to get her way comes after the entrance exam, when she is placed in a group with Ruby, Yang and Blake, with Ruby appointed as leader. Since Weiss cannot fathom being instructed by a student she considers beneath her, she tries to get the school headmaster to reverse his decision and appoint her as leader, believing she is better qualified for the role due to her hard work and social standing. To her surprise, however, the school headmaster states that her very narcissism makes her a poor candidate for leadership.

...

... You didn’t even watch Ice Queendom did you?!

For the role of leader, the school headmaster needs a student who can work with each team member unbiasedly. It is for this reason that Ruby was chosen to be her group's leader and not Weiss. It finally becomes clear to Weiss that if she's going to stand a chance at Beacon Academy, she needs to unlearn her white supremacist thinking and work on being a better person.

White people don’t exist in Remnant.

It was never said directly WHY Ozpin choose Ruby in EITHER version.

Port was calling her out for acting entitled.

Ruby and Weiss are both humans.

Port is NOT THE FUCKING HEADMASTER.

Weiss never speaks about people’s class in the show.

She also never ascertains that humans or herself are better.-

The one line in the whole article that was right was ‘work on being a better person’. And congrats- you understand what CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT is.

1/100 is still an F.

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clemprime13 · 2 years ago

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So you take issue with… people having different opinions than you? That’s Canonseeker level thinking. Don’t do that.

And I’m sorry, are you really defending the writing of the White Fang arc? Or V8 as a whole? Both of those need to be completely ripped out and redone.

Let’s take the White Fang arc. As it stands in canon, the White Fang is literally what every White Supremacist’s nightmare of minorities is. Terrorists that steal your stuff or kill you. There’s exactly no nuance, which is insulting since the Faunus and WF are intended to be a civil rights allegory.

Now, it is unbelievably simple to fix this mess. So simple that it is mind boggling why CRWBY didn’t do it in the first place. You can have different factions of the White Fang. Crazy, right? Have Adam have his faction that still does all the canon White Fang things. But then have Sienna actually do things with her White Fang that shows that she is working towards equality, if a bit more confrontational than Ghira.

Also, remove the romantic nonsense between Adam and Blake. It isn’t needed. Also, having Weiss instantly get over her racism is a terrible thing. No one instantly gets over their racism.

I love writing for RWBY.

I love writing for a cast, knowing that for each character, someone out there absolutely loves their guts and sees an entire life behind their words and actions.

I could find Raven a baffling and opaque character, only to find someone point out a thread through her seemingly contradictory actions and weave a tale of a mother torn from within, forced to walk away from a war and give up a life she may or may not have wanted - if only she had stayed long enough to know for sure - but whose stony heart is betrayed by a Semblance that always brings her to those dearest to her, to always be there when they most need her.

I could hate or be indifferent to Cardin, only to come across someone retelling a story of how he could go through an arc of rare introspection and guilt over his past actions, and amend that in little scenes throughout the series. To explore an avenue left untreaded, to treat a throwaway bully as more than a plot device and actually force him to grow when the story and most of the fanbase were content to leave him stunted and forgotten. Even if the writer's intention was as pragmatic as "I'm sticking closely to canon and I refuse to remove Cardin on principle, so I'm gonna make him work", that was still someone who treated the importance of a character and their place within a living world far more than RWBY ever did.

I love how I can end up respecting and even loving characters I never cared for just minutes before, just because of another fan igniting the Eureka moment in another fan's head. Every character is like a world unto themselves, because every fan who writes about them paints them with their own eyes and experiences.

This is why, if you ask me, RWBY would be nowhere, nowhere today without its fans. The show gives the seeds, haphazardly strewn onto a barren field with no regard or rationale, and the fans find a way to make them bloom.

RWBY gives us characters; but its fans turn them into people.

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unofficialadamtaurus · 2 years ago

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I have an idea for an Adam “fix” if we want him to actually be a villain. I’d personally split him into two characters or give his role as someone who actually cares about Faunus rights and goes to extreme lengths to an existing character like Sienna (and have her not die). I’d make sure there were multiple groups in-universe fighting for Faunus rights and Adam’s be just one branch of one group. I’d have Adam claim he was branded but always refuse to ever take off his mask. The big reveal would be that he’s not a Faunus at all. The horns are fake. There is no brand. He was co-opting Faunus struggles as an excuse to be violent and sew discord in society. Blake could then go through a lot of development after that, believing Sienna’s ways are wrong because she thinks Sienna is like Adam based on methodology, they could clash, but Blake would eventually learn that Sienna is right and Blake could become an effective and meaningful Faunus rights activist. This would allow the abusive ex storyline to coexist with an actually meaningful Faunus rights plot. What do you think? (I also like AUs where Adam is a tragic anti-hero and former mentor to Blake, axing the abusive ex stuff)

This is going to sound very aggressive but I could not think of a more diplomatic way to phrase this without it losing emphasis: I have never recoiled more viscerally from an Adam rewrite idea than this one.

I hate the idea of making Adam a human posing as a Faunus, and I do not use the word hate lightly here. At a surface level, that change to his character rips out everything I like about him besides aesthetics—and it even impinges on those by removing the scar and making the horns fake.

He is already a villain in canon. You don't need to make him an impostor or rip out the parts of his character that could force people to grapple with uncomfortable implications about the cycles of violence and oppression to do it. Hell, you can take away several layers of terrible things he's done (physical/emotional abuse, maiming Yang, etc.) and he'd still be a villain.

If you want to make him utterly hateable then this is the best way I've seen to do it. There is absolutely nothing sympathetic about the character concept you've pitched here and to slap Adam's name on that concept - the name of a character who is canonically branded, a minority, and oppressed - leaves a distinctly sour taste on my tongue.

It's one thing to adjust a story to better address the nuances of the issues brought up and then cast aside in canon. It's another to remove those issues entirely. It is quite another to shear away any and all nuance canon hinted at in favor of an easily despised villain whose defeat says nothing about the White Fang or racism in RWBY's world.

How is it meaningful to make Adam an impostor and leave Sienna unchanged? How is it meaningful to remove any direct evidence of the SDC's abuses? How is it meaningful to make Blake look like an absolute moron for not noticing that her partner is not what he claims for years?

Maybe, maybe you could make this kind of Adam work for your particular use case. Maybe, maybe there's a story worth telling in this idea. But please, keep it far away from me. I want no part of it.

I'll apologize here for going on a bit of a rant about this. However, you have suggested tearing out the guts and ticking gears of my favorite character and replacing those integral pieces with radioactive sludge. It drastically alters the kinds of stories you can tell with him, like taking a tennis racket with a couple loose strings, cutting out the strings instead of tightening them, and then trying to play badminton with the husk.

To address the bit at the start of your ask, Adam already feels like he's an archetype that's split among other characters. Blake, Ilia, and Sienna are all degrees of him to an extent (Sienna being identical in all aspects except being willing to partner with humans to take down the academies as I discussed in that one comparison post). Introducing yet another faunus rights extremist just to shove Adam all the way off the deep end into absurdity isn't going to do the story or character bloat any favors.

Still, I agree that more WF factions, if not characters, would've helped. Even things as simple as throwaway lines about public stances taken by other WF branches, other aid organizations encountered in the bowels of Mistral while Qrow was searching for huntsmen or in Argus helping displaced faunus, could've done wonders.

#anon #unofficial adam answers #adam taurus #rwde #this isn't even getting into the idea that sienna *isn't* right!#her philosophies have their own flaws they're just different than ghira's #turns out racism is complicated and there's no one solution. violence alone and pacifism alone are not enough #*deep breath* this was harsh and I'm sorry #i do not have enough energy to be kind about this

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bleached-d-soul · 3 years ago

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WHAT IF: Adam was the White Fang run-away joining Beacon and Blake was the obsessed WF leader?

Justice. Vengeance. Money. Satisfaction. The battles are fought over countless of things. But they all share on thing in common: there are always casualties.

In this world, one such casualty was none other than Ghira Belladonna. Leaving his wife and daughter… and a much more volatile world in the making.

“Blake is still mourning,” Adam said as he kneeled before Sienna Khan. He was a loyal soldier. But a good commander knew when to put someone on the bench. “She can’t go on this mission.”

“Perhaps we should let Blake speak for herself?” The woman says and in walks Blake. Her eyes no longer red from crying. But so much more lifeless than he could ever imagine.

“I am going.”

She says it without much room for argument. He doesn’t get to talk her out of it. He isn’t sent on a mission either as Kali instead needs protection and he is the only one Blake trust to keep her safe.

Just like this, the fates start to change their course.

As Adam guards the Belladonna house, Blake rips her way through the enemies of the White Fang.

As Adam comforts the widow, Blake hardens her heard and cuts any connections that do not help her vengeance.

Until one day, the former lovers find themselves opposed.

“Leave!” Adam howls and the Brass picks up Kali and runs. The now former hero of the White Fang parried the strike and scowls, “Not going to even let them run?”

“I will get my mom back in time,” Blake states coldly. Removing her mask, Adam almost breaks at the sight of how resentful and bitter his former love is. “Adam, what are you doing?”

That was a good question. Even if knew the answer, he couldn’t find it in himself to believe it. He was fleeing. Leaving the Fang that he no longer recognised.

Was it staying away from the battle that allowed him to see how far they had fallen? Was it talking to Kali that helped him see the different perspective? Was it watching his love execute Schnee heiress live that pushed him to run?

He still had no idea.

“I am leaving, Blake,” he said. “Whatever you and Sienna are doing with the Fang, I no longer want any part in.”

“You should know better than others that White Fang doesn’t accept resignations.”

He did. He himself has executed those that tried to flee. Being on the other end of the Blake certainly put things in perspective.

“Which is why I told Brass to carry Kali away.”

He unsheathed Wilt and let his Aura flow through the blade.

“Didn’t want her to get in the way.”

#runaway bull au #wirwby asks

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skye-huntress · 2 years ago

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RWBY Ice Queendom Reaction

Episode 10: “Mirror of Darkness”

First off, I want to start by saying I noticed something pretty significant that I missed in the last episode. I mentioned how Blake’s room looks pretty nice compared to the nightmare fuel of the rest of the manor, but the symbol on the door and sign caught my attention. It was the White Fang symbol, but not for Adam and Sienna’s White Fang. It was the symbol for the original White Fang that Ghira lead. The only way that could show up in Weiss’ dream is if she was aware of what the White Fang used to be, what it should have always been, and she now associates the symbol with Blake. Sign that held Blake’s Relic also had the same symbol.

I can get behind what Blake is saying. The things in that place are things Weiss has never had the chance to sort through. She only found out about Blake hours before being trapped in the nightmare and was still sorting through her feelings. Now Blake wants to force a confrontation between both of their own hatred and prejudices which is quite the gamble.

So I noticed how some people were so quick to outrage over Blake’s outfit because it looks like her abusive ex’s and “how dare they make her wear that”, blah, blah, blah. Well, I didn’t immediately make that connection but once I saw it, you know what was the first question I asked? How would Weiss know what Adam looks like? How would she know he even exists? Why would she associate his look with Blake? Even despite how twisted things are in the dream, Blake is clearly viewed quite favourably by Weiss, nothing like how the White Fang are represented. It doesn’t make sense, because Blake becoming like Adam is obviously Blake’s nightmare, not Weiss’. As so often happens with RWBY, even this anime, people jump to conclusions without understanding any of the nuance and context.

Of course, Yang is completely against this plan, but as Blake said, they’ve tried rushing the Grimm before and it cost them dearly because they couldn’t get past Negative Weiss. Sneaking in didn’t work. Yang’s maintenance plan had promise, but they bungled it and it resulted in Nega-Weiss outright banishing them. So it’s the fight fire with fire (or ice with fire?) approach. Negative Weiss vs Negative Blake.

Is it just me, or does Blake’s nightmare seem more terrifying and intense than Weiss’?

So apparently, Jaune’s immunity extends to his clothes and gear, meaning Yang gets to benefit it by wearing his cape. I’ll be honest, I didn’t quite register that that was what she was wearing in last week’s episode.

So it seems the match ups are like this: Nega-Weiss vs Nega-Blake, Yang vs “BIG NICHOLAS!”, Jaune vs Arma Jaquesis (RIP Vomit Boy), and Ruby is going to solo the Nightmare itself.

Jaune at least has back-up from the infinitely more competent children who fight like they are playing a game. He also has his massive sword which is heavily implied to be a physical manifestation of his Semblance since he hasn’t properly unlocked it. Can he use it himself, probably not. More likely he’ll find a less conventional way to use it against his opponent. Or just get Dream Pyrrha to do it.

This is the most action Bumblebee has ever gotten, she deserves it. And of course in a dream she can drive on walls! As for Yang herself, she finally has a use for all that extra firepower, fighting an entire building! Really, out of the entire cast, it would either be her or Nora who’d get that kind of matchup.

Moving on to, uh, Negative Checkmate? It seems Blake’s change has really shaken Negative Weiss. It’s like I was saying, even in her most negative thoughts that wasn’t even close to how Weiss viewed Blake, it’s like seeing a whole other person. Mostly because it is, it’s Blake if she became more like Adam. She is the Beast that has embraced the curse.

I’m going to say something that some people might take issue with so feel free to jump to the next bullet point at any point. There’s a reason I will never go so far as to call Weiss a “racist”. The label is thrown around a little too much and too easily. Weiss did have some racist views, but she never hated the Faunus for being different, and as far as I am aware, Weiss has never actually discriminated against or persecuted anybody for simply being a Faunus. Most importantly, Weiss is someone you can actually talk to and reason with. With that said, I’m not surprised that Negative Blake’s accusations are confusing Negative Weiss, because Weiss was never a direct contributor of any of the injustices mentioned.

Negative Weiss is clearly occupied, in fact, she seems to be struggling. I’d say it’s because Weiss doesn’t actually want to hurt Blake, meanwhile Negative Blake is clearly far more aggressive. Neither seems to be backing down though and Negative Weiss’ resolve doesn’t seem too shaken yet. At least, now Ruby has a clear path to the Grimm

On that note, Ruby might be biting off more than she can chew. That thing has a lot of vines that might be too much for a single person to cut through. To top it off, the marking on her hand shows she is still infected. The more she exposes herself to the Grimm, the more she risks being trapped in a dream again.

So I have my prediction, Ruby doesn’t necessarily need to defeat the Grimm itself, she just needs to free that part of Weiss that the Grimm seems to be holding on to. Weiss mentioned something that was in the shadow of the one they were facing, and that dress is clearly something the Grimm is trying to keep away from everyone. If Ruby can free it, she might release Weiss’ consciousness from the Grimm and instead of having to fight Negative Weiss and the Grimm, Team RWBY can do what they do best, fighting together as a team.

We have two episodes left, but since this is a short series that won’t have another season, at least a part of Episode 12 should be a sort of epilogue. Depending on how much time is spent for that, we might be getting most of the climax next episode, which the title seems to support. My best guess is much of it will focus on Weiss and Blake breaking free of their Nightmare forms, with Ruby and Yang’s help respectively, and then they can all regroup with Ruby and fight the Nightmare in Weiss together. That final fight will either be towards the end of Episode 11, or perhaps most likely in the first half of Episode 12.

#RWBY #RWBY IQ #RWBY IQ spoilers

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lucytara · 5 years ago

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Bumbleby. Blue. “And now that you’re here realized I need you for survival. I know from the awe in your eyes”

On the day of the reaping, Blake never expects her own name.

She’s never taken tesserae; her name’s in there six times because of her age, and that’s it. It’s her second-to-last eligible year, and she’s six among thousands. She has no reason to expect her own name when some girls in her class have their names in thirty, forty, fifty times - she brushes the nagging anxiety away for days leading up, finding comfort in the words of her family, in Adam, who’s on his last year and isn’t quite as lucky.

“Twenty-one times,” he says, but he’s still scowling. “Could be worse. But it’s still a flawed system. The poorer you are, the less value your life has. Here in Twelve? The Capitol doesn’t even think of us as people.”

Blake’s heard this speech a thousand times, but she hasn’t shared the hardest of his experiences and so she doesn’t stop him. “But what do you want to do, Adam?” she asks. “We can’t do anything. We can barely survive.”

She doesn’t miss the brief, scornful look in his eyes before he masks it with fire. She’s survived easier than he has, with her father as the Mayor, but it hasn’t been easy for any of them. “You’re right,” he says, though his tone’s taken on an odd, darkly thoughtful quality. “We can’t. But victors…” he trails off, shredding a loose leaf in his hand, strip by strip. “If I were a victor, I might.”

–

“Blake Belladonna!”

She rewatches the scene from third-person, as if it’s a dream she’s having, only it’s happening a split second after inside of her own skull. The perfectly manicured hand of their escort dipping a hand into the jar and pulling the crisp, white slip of paper with Blake’s name on it caught between her fingers. Her hazy, disoriented walk to the steps, the hem of her dress batting against her ankles. She’s not there. She’s in the Capitol, watching herself called to the death and starting, already, to murmur about her odds.

But Adam. She sees Adam perfectly.

Sees him step forward to volunteer for a boy whose name Blake doesn’t even know. Sees the crowd shifting uncomfortably, uncertain what to make of the move. Sees some of them clutching their hearts, some of them shaking their heads. And she sees Adam, unable to hide the victorious smirk in the corner of his mouth.

–

“I’m so sorry, Blake,” her father says, his hand on her shoulder as her mother embraces her, weeping. “I never wanted this for you. For any of us.”

If so many people don’t want this, Blake thinks numbly, why do we still have it?

–

Their mentor’s a woman named Sienna Kahn, now in her early thirties after having won her Games at fifteen. She’s tough, hard around the edges, as Blake imagines anyone would be who’s watched countless children die under their watch. Blake doesn’t understand, but she understands - Sienna doesn’t want to get attached.

She and Adam barely speak - her silence falls to the fact that she’s on her way to her own murder. But Adam’s?

Well, she’s seen this quiet intensity from him before. And he’s making plans.

–

There’s more to work with than Sienna thinks there is: for one, she and Adam both know their way around a sword, and she’s no stranger hitting a target with a knife. Teenage boredom, she says when Sienna asks, and despite the doubt, she doesn’t push it further.

I wanted to help people, is the real answer. When I saw how Adam had been treated, I wanted to help. And then I saw how many people were like him, I wanted to do more than that.

“Your father’s a good man,” Sienna says instead, arms crossed over her body. She’s holding a far-off look in her eye, and instantly Blake knows she’s being told information specifically because Sienna thinks she won’t be alive to repeat it later. “He fought for people the only way he could, and I’m sure he almost died for it. I thought he wasn’t doing enough, back then. But I get it now.” She fixates her gaze on Blake again, solidly in the present, still on the same train car to a mass grave. “What do you have to fight for, Blake?”

Adam’s listening for her answer, and she says the only thing she’s thought since her name was called the day before. “Honestly? I don’t know why we’re fighting at all.”

A smile works its way to the edge of Sienna’s mouth, but it isn’t happy. It’s full of regret. “Yeah,” she says. “I used to think like that, too.”

–

They watch the other reapings. There’s a pair of volunteers from One who seem like they come as a set, with equally stupid names: Emerald and Mercury. Then she only really remembers the girl from two, who looks fourteen and innocent, but Blake knows better. The red-headed girl from three, who stands tall. A girl from five, missing an eye. A large boy from eight.

But the one reaping that sticks in her mind from the minute she sees it is the reaping from Four.

A girl’s name is called, and there’s a brief bout of hysteria from the crowd while a girl with long, blonde hair tugs her back and volunteers in her place. The younger girl just screams, but the older girl - Yang - just stands on the stage, slowly putting herself back together. It’s like Blake can see it happening - see her locking her heart away. Putting all that love she has for her sister somewhere it can’t be used against her.

“Pathetic,” Adam murmurs, because he hates weakness. He’s proud to see himself volunteer, steady and confident. “To protect you, of course,” he clarifies, and nothing’s ever been further from the truth.

Strangely, all Blake can comprehend is that she’s looking forward to tomorrow - getting to see Yang in person.

–

Their outfits are stunning, as is their debut. They have a compelling story: the mayor’s daughter from Twelve and the boy determined to keep her alive. It’s a television show, Sienna says. It’s about the narrative.

Blake finds that flash of blonde hair in the crowd. She thinks she sees seashells winding their way down a braid, and a net is woven to create some sort of dress. Yang clearly hates it, but she says something to the boy from her district, and he laughs.

Laughter isn’t a simple thing to come by in the Hunger Games. She decides, for no reason at all, that she likes Yang.

–

After the parade of horses, their team is riding on a high; she’s kept herself grounded, though, unwilling to entertain any ideas of survival. She’s walking to the elevator when she swears she catches Yang staring at her, but she blinks and she’s only met with Yang’s profile, her chin dropped and her eyes averted down.

–

Yang is a mystery in the training room. She spends most of her time at the wildlife stations, learning to tie knots, painting patterns, identifying poisonous plants. She never spars, or uses any of the weapons, really, but she lifts weights, punches a bag around a bit. Blake can tell everyone’s set on edge by her presence, not able to tell the extent of her power, skill, ability. It’s uncommon to hide that sort of thing during training, but her muscles tell their own story. There’s more to her than she’s allowing them to see.

That doesn’t stop Blake from watching her, though. From cataloguing where she spends her time and how it allows her to feel. She’s not as guarded as the rest of them - she seems to like making traps, because she gains this look of concentration as she follows along with the instructor, knotting rope around her fingers. She spends a little bit of time with the boy from her district, and almost against his will, he appears slightly enamored with her. In fact, a lot of them do, though they try to hide it. Blake isn’t the only one who watches her.

She’s so absorbed with the state of affairs that she doesn’t notice who isn’t, but she does notice there’s an energy between her and Adam that wasn’t palpable before, and now it seems to be coating the room.

“Thinking about allies, Blake?” he says over dinner, light enough to pass as a joke but sinister enough to be a threat.

“No,” Blake says, because she’s only thinking about the quickest way to die.

She hopes she can at least see Yang, wherever she is when it happens.

–

Her knife sinks directly into the red dot, signaling a bulleye on their human-shaped target. She’s not paying attention to the show she’s putting on; all she’s really doing is daydreaming while she idly throws knives. It helps her think. Gives her clarity.

They’re easy to flick. Most people don’t understand the wrist movement, the finesse - they tie it to strength, rather than purpose. That’s why Blake’s so good at it; she’s about precision, not power. That’d always been Adam.

Someone is watching her. Actually, as she comes back into herself, many people are watching her, but only one she cares about: Yang, back at the trap station, staring unfettered.

Blake abruptly puts her knives down. The worst part of the Hunger Games, she’s starting to understand, aren’t the games themselves. That’s going to awaken survival instincts, desperation for life - primal, unhindered urges. No, no, the worst part of the Games is now, these few days before, when they’re taken care of so exquisitely, when shiny, beautiful things are dangled in front of them and cruelly ripped away.

“Why?” she can’t resist asking, kneeling beside Yang. “Why did you do it?”

Yang’s eyes haven’t left her, but her fingers stall around the rope, as if surprised by the question. She examines Blake with a strange intensity, but an openness Blake still isn’t used to from any other tribute. Everyone’s either closed off or showing off, genuinity nowhere to be found. Except perhaps the redhead from Three. Pyrrha. She’s been spending some time teaching a much smaller, younger boy how to throw a spear. He doesn’t stand a chance, but Pyrrha must know that.

“Don’t you have someone?” Yang says, drops her gaze back to the knot. “Someone you’d die for?”

Her parents. Her friends. Adam. “No,” Blake admits honestly. “Nobody.” There are no cameras yet. No one to hurt with the admission. Adam had called her selfish, once; maybe he’d been right.

But Yang laughs, once and under her breath. “Maybe you’re better off that way,” Yang says, not unkindly. Her smile’s sad and quiet; whatever memories rise, they’re memories for her to cherish one last time. That’s how all memories feel these days. “My sister is my life.”

“She’s lucky to have you,” Blake says, captivated by every word out of Yang’s mouth; how real she sounds. There’s no show; she’s not aiming to impress, or grasping at pity. She’s here because of a choice she made, and she’ll live and die with that. Blake wonders what that’s like: to have a choice. “Not many people would do what you did.”

“Well, what about you, Belladonna?” Yang questions, sitting up a little straighter, expression a sliding door that suddenly gives way to teasing. There’s a tone underneath, though - heavy - like a lingering doubt. “The guy who volunteered for you. To protect you, right?”

She’s close - she’s kept her volume low. She’s not stupid. She’s playing this conversation with an angle, but it isn’t for her own benefit.

Blake turns her head, locks onto Adam’s hand clenched around the grip of his sword, lunging strikes at a dummy. She feels the familiar uncurling of fear in her stomach, a dark and massive shape lingering just below. Ominous and foreboding.

“Yeah,” Blake says, and looks away. “He did.”

Picking up on her discomfort isn’t hard, and it isn’t something she’s actively tried to mask; Yang pauses strangely, gaze flickering between them. She infers, “It’s not a good thing, is it.” And trains her focus on Blake again. “It’s not good that he’s here.”

“I don’t know,” Blake admits. “He - I don’t know. Maybe I’m being paranoid.”

“Maybe you aren’t.”

“He wants me to believe it is,” she says finally. “He told me all he wants is to see me safe.”

“And you think he’s lying?” Yang asks, like a story she’s invested in, though Blake isn’t quite sure why.

“I think,” Blake starts, and at last puts into words what exactly has haunted her since the reaping days earlier, “that Adam wants to win, and he thinks he can use me to do that. Use my loyalty to him.”

The knot effortlessly tightens and unravels between Yang’s fingers. It seems to be an unconscious habit, and one she’s better at than her hours at the station might’ve led them to believe. “Hm,” she says, poking her tongue against the inside of her cheek. “You’re good with those knives, that’s for sure. It makes sense that he’d rather have you as an ally than an enemy - help him take out all the threats, and take you out himself.”

“Perceptive,” Blake says, impressed despite her dawning horror; she’d been so good at pushing it down, at talking herself out of circles, at trusting him despite the signs. In one conversation, Yang’s forced her to undo all that. She echoes Yang’s earlier words to her. Maybe it’s for the best.

“I’m not sure I’d go that far,” Yang says, and subtly jerks her head in his direction. “With how purposefully he’s showing off his swordplay, I’m amazed he even remembers you exist.” She rolls her eyes. “Men.”

And Blake laughs. Like Yang’s district partner at the parade. It’s accidental, and nearly shocking in its sincerity, but she laughs anyway. She doesn’t have a choice. “Men,” she agrees, and Yang laughs too.

That’s the first time Blake thinks about living.

–

The first time Yang thinks about dying - dying willingly - is their final day in the training center.

Blake Belladonna, beautiful and clever and entirely obvious to everyone but herself, locates her at the camouflage station, attempting to blend her hand into a sandy coastline. She stares quizzically down at the pattern, eyebrows knitting together, and Yang makes the connection with a laugh. “You’ve never seen the ocean.”

“No.” Blake shakes her head. “What’s it like?”

“Well, I’m no artist,” Yang says, wiggling her fingers, “but kinda like this. Blue, green, boundless - sometimes I think about just diving in the water and swimming as far as I can. Swimming away.” She adds, “Salty.”

And then Blake reaches for a paintbrush, deliberately dragging her fingers along the back of Yang’s hand, leaving streaks of blue paint. She pauses; Yang keeps breathing, but it’s a struggle. She says, “Hey.”

“Hey,” Yang says.

“Don’t die.” She takes the brush, and swirls it into the yellow paint. “Don’t give up.”

“Why do you care what happens to me?” Yang asks, almost unnerved at the sentiment, fighting against the way it makes her want to cry. Her skin feels raw where Blake had touched her, and the marks remain.

“Because,” Blake says softly, “I think you deserve better than this.”

“I think we all do,” Yang counters, flaring up - it’s not just me, she wants to say. You deserve better. You. There are so few beautiful things left. You.

“But the rest of us aren’t here because there’s someone we care enough about to protect.” Blake lets it hang between them. “You’re a good person, Yang. Anyone can tell that much.”

Yang’d never understood the Capitol and its fascination with tattoos as a statement. Now she stares at the blue streaks across the back of her hand, and wonders about wearing it forever.

She’d die, she thinks. She’d die for Blake, too.

–

She spars for the first and last time after that, and one of her blows sends the trainer flying off the practice area and into the concrete, knocking him unconscious.

But she sweats the paint off, and finds without it, it’s a little easier to breathe.

–

Their scores aren’t surprising. Adam pulls a nine. Blake gets a ten - Adam pretends to be happy for her, but she sees that facade cracking instantly.

Yang gets an eleven.

“Her?” Adam spits out, clearly infuriated. He’s already seeing red.

“She’s a genius,” Sienna says at the revelation, shocking Adam into silence. “You’re good with a weapon, Adam, and anyone will give you that. But unarmed? You’re nothing.” She jerks her head towards the blonde girl on-screen. “You can’t disarm her. She’ll kill you with her bare hands.”

“Her?” Adam snarls. “If she gets within my line of sight, she’s–”

“You think she doesn’t know how to dodge a sword?” she asks, and Adam bristles once again with no response. “Do you truly believe a girl whose primary skill is hand-to-hand combat doesn’t know how to evade an attack? You’re a fool if you cast her aside as a threat, Adam. She’s the most dangerous one here.”

Blake stares blankly at her picture, wondering if it’s intelligence, if it’s determination, passion, will. Wonders if Yang’s trained for this, if she’s excited, if she’s terrified. Wonders if it’s all just luck, a mixed bag of rot and gold.

But Blake recalls the tapes of the reapings, across every district, and she remembers none of them as clearly as she remembers Yang’s - not even her own. Yang’s; a reaping that wasn’t supposed to be hers at all.

Ruby! Ruby! No!

Armed guards in white holding her back, or trying to, but being no match for her strength.

I volunteer! She hears Yang’s scream in her mind, even now, days later, sees her pushing her way to the platform. I volunteer as tribute!

Or, Blake thinks, maybe it’s just what she’s always done to survive.

–

Blake’s tactic, they’d decided, is mysterious and alluring: she’s to answer her interview in short, vague answers, and smile as though she’s hiding something. It’s not hard. She’s hiding so much from herself already that it barely even feels like a tactic.

Yang goes for sexy and powerful, and she doesn’t even have to try. People in the audience are literally fanning themselves as she’s interviewed. She looks stunning in her dress, her heels, red-lipped and eyes that seem to match underneath the stage lights.

“I just want my sister to know I love her,” she says at the end, a calculated vulnerability that makes every citizen watching want her even more, moaning about how strong and brave she is, protecting her younger sister like that.

“She makes me sick,” Adam says, face warped with hatred, and suddenly, it isn’t her own safety she’s worried for.

–

It’s a diversion. Confuse Adam, make him scramble for a new plan, make him rethink his strategy. Because Yang had been right, and Blake’s instincts had been, too: he wants to win. And when you want to win, everyone else is a target.

So during her interview, she confesses, “I know I can win. But I’ve met someone here who I’d really like to keep alive, even more than that.”

The interviewer goes insane. “Another tribute?” he says. “You’ve met someone here?”

Blake shrugs, pretending to be coy. “That’s all I’ll say on the matter.”

He groans, begs her for details, and she says next to nothing, but the audience eats it up - she sees the camera focus on her as the show closes, hoping to catch her eyes flickering to another tribute. She stares straight ahead, speaking to no one until they’re backstage.

“Adam, not now,” Sienna says immediately, pointing him to the elevator. “Go upstairs. We’ll meet you there.” He grits his teeth, but does as he’s told. Sienna turns on her. “What the hell was that?”

“I’m not an idiot,” Blake says lowly, “and neither are you. We both know what Adam’s plan is. Or was.”

It’s a statement that forces Sienna into a corner, and she relents after a few seconds of the two of them staring each other down. “You’ll be his first target now, not his last,” she says. “You know that, right?”

“It doesn’t matter the order,” Blake says, brushing by her to the elevator. “I’ve been number one on his list for a long, long time. But I’m not playing the Games on his terms anymore.”

“Well, you’ve given them a hell of a narrative,” Sienna says, following her, reluctantly impressed. “The whole Capitol’s dying to know who your lucky love interest could be, since it’s not him.”

Yang shoves her arm through the elevator door just as it’s about to close. “Mind if I catch a ride?” she asks, stepping inside, her heels held in her hand.

So, maybe Blake should’ve thought through her plan, because at the moment, Yang’s a foot away from her and absolutely the most beautiful girl Blake’s ever seen in her life, and her story for the cameras turns out to be more true than she’d meant it to be.

“Oh, it’s you,” Sienna says, throwing up her hands. Apparently Blake’s staring is noticeable. “Of course it is. Blake, you’re on your own.”

“No, she’s not,” Yang murmurs, and brushes her fingers against Blake’s, hanging between them. “She’s got me.”

–

There’s a vibrancy to her when she disembarks, an urgency to her mouth. Find me, she says, leaning close, grasping Blake’s hand. Find me in the arena. Or I’ll find you. Okay?

“Why?” Blake asks again, unable to comprehend anything Yang does or says, unable to reconcile the motivation behind it.

“Because I want you alive,” she says, and lets go. “I want you to live.”

You’re insane, Blake wants to say. None of us will live except one. And out of all of us, it should be you.

But the next morning, standing on the platform, she finds Yang three spaces down from her, and their eyes meet as if by gravitational pull.

Find me, Yang mouths, and the cannons blast.

#Anonymous #bumbleby #rwby fic #blake belladonna #yang xiao long #rwby #yes...it's a hunger games au. will i continue it? maybe!

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kitkatopinions · 4 years ago

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The ethics in RWBY are really weird. I mean, I’m not a professor of ethics and I don’t know much past what I’ve seen on Wikipedia and the Good Place (such a great show,) but it’s so weird to see a show that seems to switch between virtue ethics and consequentialism at random.

(Virtue ethics) may be identified as the one that emphasizes the virtues, or moral character, in contrast to the approach that emphasizes duties or rules (deontology) or that emphasizes the consequences of actions (consequentialism). Suppose it is obvious that someone in need should be helped. A utilitarian will point to the fact that the consequences of doing so will maximize well-being, and a virtue ethicist to the fact that helping the person would be charitable or benevolent.

Of course, it’s a lot more complicated and in-depth than just that, but I’m not going to get into specifics (again, I’m not qualified to do that lol.) But let’s look at some examples of these two ethical beliefs in RWBY.

“Stealing is wrong no matter what,” sounds like virtue ethics at play, and that’s how Blake saw things. That was one of the reasons that she left the White Fang, that was always framed as one of the many things that made it so they were villains, that had to be taken out. Blake regretted her acts of theft in her early life no matter how justified they were. The message is that stealing is always wrong even when you’re stealing from oppressors.

“Stealing is justified in circumstances where you feel you have no other choice,” sounds like consequentialism, if your actions are justified and have good consequences, they’re good. This is put into practice when the group illegally stole the airplane in Argus (although this is actually badly portrayed consequentialism, considering that they didn’t need to do that, but I think we’re intended to perceive it as necessary, but I’ll keep talking about that later.)

“Violence is wrong, even when it’s precautionary or reactionary,” sounds like virtue ethics, and once again, that’s directed towards the White Fang. Despite being oppressed for centuries, even Sienna’s more minor violence is framed as completely wrong, and the Faunus are lectured about how they need to stop committing acts of violence if they want equality. The Ace Ops fighting Team RWBY is meant to be perceived as wrong, despite the fact that Team RWBY had broken the law, proven themselves untrustworthy, and were trying to stop them and Ironwood from doing something that would save people.

“Violence is justified in circumstances where it’s precautionary or reactionary,” sounds like consequentialism. Since the White Fang is hurting others, it doesn’t matter what their goal is (Faunus rights,) it’s totally fine to rip them to shreds, throw them off moving trains, even kill, etc. Since Team RWBY thought it was wrong to move Atlas, they were perfectly justified in beating up the Ace Ops for trying to arrest them. Qrow is perfectly justified in fighting Clover for the same reason.

“You always need to be honest, no matter if you don’t know if you can trust someone or not and no matter if you have good reasons to lie,” sounds like virtue ethics. This is applied to Ozpin in the show, his lying is deemed one hundred percent wrong, full stop, no excuses. He isn’t treated with any sympathy and has to apologize, which is seriously and begrudgingly accepted. Our main characters forcing his secrets out of him is framed as right, their angry responses are framed as totally justified. The message is clear. Lying and mistrusting is wrong. Honesty and trust is right.

“Lying is understandable and even right if you think you have good reason to lie and if you think you can’t trust someone, and Ruby was right about Ironwood, therefore her lying was fine,” sounds like consequentialism. Ruby’s lying is framed as reasonable and understandable. She didn’t have to be honest because she was reacting cautiously instead, putting a virtue on the back burner because she thought being honest might hurt people and wasn’t sure if James could be trusted - as in, she acted in mistrust. Although Yang suggests this was wrong, the show quickly hastens to tell us that Ruby was very right, having Yang walk back on her statements, and having Ironwood turn evil. The message is clear. Lying and mistrusting should be done if you think it will hurt less people. Honesty and trust aren’t always good.

“It’s never okay to willingly sacrifice a life, you must do whatever you can to save everyone no matter the cost,” sounds like virtue ethics. This is the central conflict between Team RWBY and Ironwood in volume 7. Ruby and co considered it wholly wrong to sacrifice the remaining people of Mantle in order to save Atlas and the Mantle citizens already evacuated, they considered the idea unacceptable and we (the audience) are meant to believe they’re entirely right and that Ironwood is - with this action - turning into a villain. The Ace Ops are also seen as wrong for wanting to destroy the whale even though they know that Team JORY is still inside it, because despite the fact that it would save thousands upon thousands, it would result in the deaths of four people.

“You have to do what is right, even if it requires sacrifice,” sounds like consequentialism. Pyrrha goes to fight Cinder despite knowing she can’t win, which is framed as heroic and good. Jaune, Nora, and Ren leave their mission defending the non-evacuated people of Mantle in order to try and rescue Oscar. Our group of protagonists trap a city full of civilians in Salem’s direct line of fire and cause many soldiers to die so that they can try and evacuate the citizens of Mantle. The show frames this as the right choice that the team made in the pursuit of saving everyone they could, and the dead soldiers are a sacrifice that the protagonists couldn’t avoid and therefore aren’t responsible for.

“Being a good person who tries is the most important thing,” This feels like virtue ethics. This is applied to Team RWBY and Ruby particularly all throughout season eight. What really matters is that is that they’ve been trying. What really matters is that they’ve had good intentions. What really matters is they’ve stuck to their guns, stuck to their moral code. The morality of their actions is judged by who they are, what virtues they embody, and what they intended. Ruby is constantly assured by the people around her that she hasn’t really done anything wrong because she’s a believer, she’s kind, she’s brave, she’s optimistic, she’s well-intentioned... She - and we as the audience - are assured that she was still good, even if nothing she did was effective, even if nothing she did even helped people This is also applied to Robyn. She might steal from the government, start fights, and not fix the wall with her stolen resources, but she has good intentions and wants to help, so she’s a good person.

“Your intentions and effort aren’t important, what matters is what you do and if it helps people.” This feels like consequentialism. It’s obviously applied to Ironwood - It doesn’t matter that he’s trying to save Atlas and the evacuated people of Mantle, it still doesn’t excuse what he did even pre-bomb threat. Hacking Penny, shooting the councilman, shooting Oscar, all of that is treated as horrible in the narrative whether or not he’s doing it to try to save thousands upon thousands of lives. Even the things he was doing in V7 were considered not good enough because they weren’t helping enough people. But it also applies to the White Fang yet again. Sienna Kahn might’ve had good intentions (ending Faunus oppression,) but her actions are judged by the harm they do to others. Ilia might’ve had good intentions (again, ending Faunus oppression,) but her actions were considered firmly bad and she had to decide to change her ways in order to be redeemed. On top of this, let’s add Whitley to the pile. Whitley is treated dismissively and coldly by Weiss, but then when he does something good that helps people, Weiss is affectionate with him and starts treating him well.

This is all very contradictory and weird. It doesn’t matter if you lean more towards virtue ethics or consequentialism, the story keeps waffling between the two and expects its audience to do the same. When they want Team RWBY to do something that might be considered wrong in the terms of virtue ethics (stealing, lying, using violence, etc,) they use consequentialism to justify it, but whenever they want Team RWBY to be morally superior to the people around them even if those people aren’t evil (Ironwood, Oz, Ilia,) they use virtue ethics to do that. Stories that include both as points of contention between characters, but both are framed as justifiable can exist and can be really good, but that’s not what we’re given. Stories that make it clear that they prefer one over the other can exist, but that’s not what we’re given either. RWBY is full of whiplash moments, where you have to go “Wait, wasn’t this framed as wrong just an episode ago?” and “Wait, wasn’t this framed as right and justified just an episode ago?” Because RWBY as a show doesn’t bother to believe in either of them. RWBY as a show is only concerned with saying what they can to make the protagonists look good, which is hard.

When you look at it, they’re bad at being consequentialists.

Let’s look at the first relevant consequentialist action I noted, where I used the example of stealing the Atlas ship to establish that the protagonists considered stealing justified and necessary, therefore morally sound. This was not only avoidable (Cordovin had given them the option of sending Weiss through and she could’ve contacted Winter as soon as her scroll was able to reach her,) but it caused a dangerous Grimm attack. As far as I know, no civilians were hurt. However, this was still an avoidable act of theft that caused negative consequences. Looking at them trapping Atlas is even messier. They do it to save the remaining people of Mantle, putting the people of Atlas (and the evacuated Mantle citizens) at risk so they can save the most people despite the soldiers lining up to die facing Salem and the possibility of Grimm getting in the city of Atlas and killing civilians before they can finish the evacuation. But you quickly realize that they literally can’t evacuate the people still in Mantle because they have no resources to do so. Then they start moving the remaining people of Mantle to the Crater where they won’t freeze to death (logical,) and JORY and the HH start trying to defend them (logical,) but then they don’t send Penny to move Atlas. They know that they can’t evacuate the people in Mantle to Atlas, have a temporary solution to the cold, and know they aren’t going to get more help in defending the civilians in their care and must take care of it themselves. But they continue to keep Atlas trapped there despite knowing that the consequence might be thousands dying. Looking at launching Amity and sending out the broadcast is even messier than that. The broadcast is ill-planned, sloppy, confusing, and hits several of the beats of Cinder’s broadcast, which kick started the Fall of Beacon. This could have terrible consequences in a world where the Grimm are drawn to negativity. People could panic, it could launch Vacuo (the last remaining fully functioning kingdom) into a state of emergency, it could cause people to lose all hope in the establishments or the Hunters themselves, it could make people go out looking for ‘maidens’ to help them. And no one should be able to just travel to help Atlas within a couple of days anyway, which Ruby seems to fully understand at times in how she frames things, but she also asks for help that logic says can’t come. This was something that might endanger people and cause mass panic and Grimm attacks, that didn’t actually do much good. In terms of consequentialism, this was a failure, this wasn’t the Right thing to do.

But when you look at it, they’re bad at virtue ethics too.

Of course, there’s the obvious. They lie, they mistrust, they steal, they’re violent. They point their weapons at Qrow in V6, Weiss points her weapon at Whitley, an untrained teenage civilian, Weiss throws a man in a dumpster for being anti-Faunus to Blake, Qrow punches a teenage body for lying to him about something important. But there’s also the fact that in V8, Ruby and Weiss and Blake don’t do much to help anyone. Ruby sends out her hopeful sounding message that could do very little (if logic means anything in this world,) and then sits in a mansion drinking tea, waiting for Nora to recover. Of course this is wrong from a consequentialist mind frame, the consequence of sitting around doing nothing when you can help save people is that those people might die. But from a virtue ethics standpoint... This action is selfish, maybe even cowardly. Ruby is meant to be selfless and brave, and remember that she’s the one who made it so Atlas civilians and the evacuated people of Mantle couldn’t escape, and then despite the fact that she’s a powerful fighter with a rare super power that can take out tons of Grimm at once, Ruby sits in a mansion and despairs that no one is coming to save her. Look, I’ve heard every excuse. It doesn’t matter if she’s wanted by the Atlas police. It doesn’t matter if she’s trying to take care of her friend. It doesn’t matter if she has no plan. The virtues Ruby is supposed to embody like kindness, bravery, resolve and selflessness would dictate that all of that has to take a backseat when she can save human lives.

This is a big reason why I’m so frustrated with RWBY. They keep waffling between these two conflicting ideas of what’s right and what’s wrong, and they’re failing to make our heroes properly fit into either category. They just then tell us that they fit. They always do what’s right for the most people and don’t look behind the curtain to see them fail to do just that. They always follow their virtues and don’t look behind the curtain to see them make excuses over and over for themselves while they expect everyone else to adhere to the standards they won’t reach for.

And honestly, fans do the same thing the show does, which is one reason why it’s so frustrating to talk to mega-stans that won’t recognize the main casts flaws while they refuse to see that Oz deserved better or that Ironwood wasn’t evil pre-end of volume 7. “Of course Team RWBY lied to Ironwood, they didn’t know if they could trust him!” “Whether or not Oz knew if he could trust them, he never should’ve lied to them.” They’ll say these things even sometimes in the same posts or comments and not even realize the problem. The show and the fans will use anything and any justification to pretend that Team RWBY was right and inculpable, but they’ll use anything and any justification to make anyone who opposes them - friend or foe - seem entirely in the wrong and at fault. That’s why Oz apologized to them, but they didn’t apologize back even though they treated him horribly. The show runners don’t care what Team RWBY did wrong, they’ve already jumped through all the mental hoops to pretend they were right.

Looking at Team RWBY through the lens of virtue ethics, they fail to meet a good standard, and looking at Team RWBY through the lens of consequentialism, they still fall short. And the show needs to stop acting like they’re inherently better than the people around them when they’re not. The show writers are using the excuses of consequentialism and virtue ethics whenever they think it can distract us from the fact that behind their fancy feel good words, they don’t know how to write good protagonists.

#rwde #rwby hate #rwby criticism #anti-rwby #anti rwby #long post

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bridgyrose · 4 years ago

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Khan'd Rose AU. Day Two (Night), Weiss comes back with only a deer leg she had to fight some wolves for, now tired she finds a well rested Ruby cooking four whole rabbits. At the same time Summer calls Yang again in a more stern tone asking what happened, only this time Sienna calls Blake... Oh, boy.

Weiss: *making her way through the trees and brush, combat gear and hair a mess* This… is the last… time I try… to do anything… for that… animal!

Ruby: *looking up from her fire, rotating the rabbits she had roasting* You’re back. I thought you got lost.

Weiss: *hesitating* W-what is that?

Ruby: *ripping a leg off a rabbit, adding salt to it* Rabbit.

Weiss: You mean to tell me that I went through all this work to get some deer- *pulls out the dear leg* -and you just got us rabbits?

Ruby: Honestly, I’m surprised you came back with anything at all.

Weiss: *frowning* What do you mean you’re surprised?!

Ruby: What I mean is that I think you’re out of your element right now. Come sit down, there’s plenty of rabbit for both of us. Two each.

Weiss: *sighing and walking to the fire, sitting down* I… dont understand…

Ruby: Dont understand what?

Weiss: Why… would you make sure I had some to eat?

Ruby: Because the whole point of this is to make sure we can get along. I… may not agree with you, or like you, but… we’re partners. Kinda shitty of me to just let you be on your own.

Weiss: *sighing* I guess I havent been that easy to work with.

Ruby: No, you havent.

Weiss: *silently ripping some meat off a rabbit to eat*

Ruby: Think we can at least try to get along?

Weiss: *nodding* This doesnt make us friends.

Ruby: I wouldnt dream of it.

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Yang: *answering her scroll* Auntie-

Summer: Yang Xiao Long. Where. Is. Ruby?

Yang: *hesitating* S-she’s… away at the moment-

Summer: And if she’s not with you, where is she?

Yang: I think she said something about going into town-

Summer: Yang. Dont you dare lie to me.

Yang: *sighing* Alright… we’re on a survival trip. She and Weiss werent getting along and so Ozpin thought it was a good idea for us to split into partnered groups and to survive three nights.

Summer: So someone has been bullying her.

Yang: Yes… well… no… she can handle herself.

Summer: If anything happens, I’m holding you responsible.

Yang: Ruby will be fine-

Summer: I’m not worried about Ruby. I’m worried about her hiding a body. And if I find out that her teammate “mysteriously disappeared” because she’s being bullied, I will make sure you’re the one who has to take the blame. Am. I. Clear?

Yang: Y-yes Auntie.

Summer: Good. Then I expect to hear from her when you both get back to Beacon.

Yang: *sighing as her scroll hung up* That… went better than expected.

Blake: *walking over, hanging up on her own scroll* Summer call you yet?

Yang: Y-yeah. And she just threatened me in case Ruby ends up having to hide Weiss’s body .

Blake: I… just got that same talk from Sienna.

Yang: ...we should probably prepare for our funerals, shouldnt we?

Blake: Probably would be smart.

#rwby #skits #ruby rose #rwby ruby rose #weiss schnee #yang xiao long #blake belladonna #summer rose #khan'd rose #khan'd rose au

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warsmith-38 · 4 years ago

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How I would do RWBY pt.4

World Travel Arc.

Season Four.

Cinder was found by Salem after fall of Beacon.

Missing arm and eye.

Salem helps her and even rewards her.

She accomplished her goal of shooting Ozpin with the arrow.

It didn’t take, sure, but that’s not Cinder’s fault.

Arm is replaced with grimm arm.

An eye was also offered but Cinder refused because she wants a visceral reminder of her failure.

Translation: Because chuunibyou.

Cinder spends her time training to compensate for and overcome her new disabilities.

Has massive grudge against Ruby.

What should have been two easy wins were stolen from her by sheer dumb luck and circumstance.

She has made it her goal to prove that she is more powerful than Ruby and will do so by tearing her heart out and turning it to ash.

Salem decides that Ruby will be an issue to her long term plans and sends her best assassin, Tyrian, to kill her instead of Cinder.

Just like Summer.

She doesn’t want to send Cinder on the grounds that she thinks that homegirl REALLY needs to chill.

Ruby is full murderhobo.

Killing grimm and taking whatever freelance bounty money she can on her way to Mistral.

Fuck if she knows what she’s going to do when she gets there but she hasn’t planned all that far ahead.

She just wanted to not be stuck at home again.

Finds JNR, who had volunteered for general assistance in the areas around Mistral.

JNR says that there’s both a grimm issue and a bandit issue in the area.

Ruby wants everything to do with it.

Blake is on her way back to Menagerie.

Encounters SSSN who are on light duties and are being sent to putz around in Menagerie.

Sun asks her ‘what the fuck is your plan?’

Blake says that the only place for her in the world is back home with her family.

Weiss is also back home with her family but is far less into the idea.

Dad is distant and detached.

Mother is drunk and miserable.

Winter is the only one she properly interacts with, training and sparring to keep herself in shape.

Winter offers a position in the military, a cushy one at that (Can I get an amen for nepotism?)

Weiss ignores the offer, is depressed, misses her friends.

Yang is stuck at home, also depressed, dealing with deepening abandonment issues, and constantly fiddling with the trinket Raven gave her.

Having Ruby run off only made things worse. Combining her abandonment issues with the feeling of letting her sister down when she needed her most.

Tai barely pays attention to her outside of his constant worrying about Ruby but eventually sees the trinket and tells Yang about Raven.

Is very clearly bitter about the whole thing but is pretending he isn’t.

VERY rose (ha) tinted glasses about Summer.

Not that she was secretly a piece of shit or anything, but to hear Tai talk about her she made saints look like goatfuckers.

Ironwood shows up and gives Yang robo-arm as an apology for saying he’d help her after the fight with Mercury and then letting her down.

Ironwood helps break Yang out of her funk, offers some military style counseling, helping her work off the muscle atrophy, even teaches her some spec-ops chokeholds and the like.

Yang says it’s nice to have an actual male role model/father figure in her life.

Ironwood rips Tai’s shit in for being such a bad parent to Yang.

Tai has no real counters to what Ironwood is saying.

He realizes that he’s been a neglectful asshole and starts helping retrain Yang too.

Weiss makes a scene at an event her father is putting on.

Jacques sits her down after it and says that they’re going to have a completely frank conversation.

Topic shifts to their viewpoints and life choices.

He’s fine with his daughter disagreeing with him, he just wants her to understand him and he her.

Weiss calls him out on the blatantly bad shit the SDC has done.

Jacques defends his points, saying that he tried to make things better for the faunus and the White Fang just made everything worse for everyone.

Weiss tells him that passing the buck is bullshit.

Agree to disagree.

Jacques gives her a spiel laced with double meanings about freedom and making your own path.

Weiss leaves that night. (keikaku doori (Translation: All according to keikaku (Translators note: Keikaku means plan)))

Jacques might be a dick but he does want his family to be as genuinely happy as he can make them.

Blake gets back home.

Gets royal reception on the grounds that she’s the daughter of the chief of the kingdom.

Sun sends SSN to get on with their mission, he’s gonna be a while, faunus business.

They understand, they’re hip to this sort of thing, and tell him that if he needs them they’re just a phone call away.

He calls Blake out for being one of the most privileged faunus alive while lecturing others on said topic.

Blake and Sun walk in on White Fang people trying to recruit Ghira.

Notices Blake in the process of telling them to leave.

Ghira shoves everyone out of his way to embrace his long believed dead daughter.

Emotional reunion.

Sees Sun, makes joke about ‘Adam’s cheerier replacement’.

Blake gets sad.

Ghira assumes Adam died or something and doesn’t press the matter.

Calls for a royal banquet to celebrate the return of his daughter.

Sienna is present.

Sienna is overjoyed to see Blake alive and well.

Blake is happy to see ‘aunty’ Sienna but is apprehensive to talk that much with Sun glaring at them both.

Ilia is there (as head of local White Fang cell) and is happy to see her old friend is alive.

She already knew but has to keep up appearances, especially after The White Fang was seen at Beacon.

Very poor publicity to be seen operating at a place like that.

Ilia had been reassigned to Menagerie before the fall happened so she’s not guilty of taking part.

Later has small meeting with Blake, Sienna, Ilia, Sun, Ghira, and Kali.

Sienna tries (again) to bring Ghira into the White Fang.

His joining would bring all of Menagerie and the connected resources into the conflict.

This is opposed by everyone else present barring Ilia.

Ghira says that he has washed his hands of the problems in Atlas and has local stuff that he believes is more important in the long run.

Supporting Wild Call is how he helps the rest of his people.

Kali’s been running Wild Call since Ghira stepped away to run Menagerie.

Sienna talks about how faunus are treated in certain parts of the world.

It really is nowhere near as bad as she says it is.

Blake brings up terrorist acts in places completely innocent of any faunus abuse.

Sienna ‘condemns’ these acts and blames them on ‘bad apples’ like Adam, citing the fall of Beacon.

Says that Adam was acting alone and without official endorsement.

She’s lying through her fucking teeth, but the only other one who knows that for sure is Ilia.

While taking part in the fall was technically unsanctioned, Sienna knows all about Salem and was okaying Adam’s efforts working with her.

Ilia suddenly feels very guilty for some odd reason.

Ghira is very confused, doesn’t keep up too much with world affairs, generally too busy.

Blake rounds on Sienna for trying to shift the blame to Adam, cites all of the bullshit attacks she was involved in, letting it be known that she herself was in the White Fang.

Ghira and Kali both become enraged at Sienna, who told them that Blake was killed years ago at a protest gone south.

Sienna tries to make excuses for the cause.

Is escorted with Ilia from the palace at gun point.

Kali and Blake reconnect as Ghira has a sit down with Sun, telling him to tell him everything he knows.

Weiss is stowed away on airship bound for Vacuo/Mistral (doesn’t really matter which, ship gets taken down either way).

Ship gets attacked by grimm and gets splashed.

Weiss makes it to shore and travels southward, realizing that maybe she should have planned this a little more than not at all.

Wonder who she picked that up from.

Ends up surrounded by bandits who see the pretty girl from Atlas who might just be worth a lot of cash.

Weiss kicks the shit out of them.

Raven shows up.

Weiss loses.

Yang decides enough of her sulking and gets ready to set off to find Ruby and either 1. Bring her home 2. Look after her and keep her safe on her personal quest 3. Kick her ass for running off and making everyone worried 4. Some combination of the above. (Maybe hit up where Raven’s map leads along the way if she gets the chance)

Tai acknowledges that he can’t always protect his girls.

Tells Yang to not be too hard on Ruby, realizing that she would never have been happy with a calm, sheltered, life.

Summer was the same way.

He also apologizes for neglecting Yang for as long as he did.

Yang gets a hug from Tai, a salute from Ironwood, and a slobbering from Zwei.

Yes, the dog is still here. He’s a good dog. Every story could use a good dog or twelve.

Gets to the continent that Mistral is on. (I do not care about the name)

Starts biking in the direction that the conflict zones are, hoping to find word about Ruby along the way.

Gets accosted by bandits along the way.

Kicks the crap out of them.

Raven shows up saying that she expected nothing less from her daughter.

Yang realizes that she is indeed around where the map was pointing her.

This was supposed to be a test to see if Yang was resourceful enough to track her down.

Didn’t really mean to come this way just yet, but sometimes things just work out that way.

Raven happily takes her daughter to the main camp.

Yang is apprehensive to get comfortable and seems a little disappointed that her mother is just some asshole bandit.

Raven gives her a speech all about survival of the fittest and might makes right and all that jazz.

Yang wants to know why she left her in the first place and why she is suddenly wanting to be back in her life after all this time.

She’s got a lot of questions and Raven has very few answers.

Raven avoids Yang’s questions and says that she’s always been watching her from behind the scenes.

Yang actually dislikes that even more because it means that she could have been there for her the whole time, yet wasn’t.

Raven continues by saying that if Yang’s so weak that she couldn’t beat a pissant like Neo then she really needs mama to teach her what’s what.

Offers Yang a position in the tribe and even offers to make her second in command.

Yang then sees Weiss in a cage.

Raven explains that she’s going to be given to Salem to use as a hostage in Atlas.

Yang had already given up on getting answers and was already going to tell Raven to eat shit but now...

Demolishes the camp, takes Weiss away on the bike, and leaves the trinket Raven gave her in the dirt.

Would have taken the time to kick the shit out of Raven, but she needed to get Weiss out of there.

Raven is livid.

In Menagerie, Ghira and Kali have very upfront conversation with Blake.

They are upset with her that she ran off with terrorists but are happy she’s alive.

They also admonish her for running/taking the easy way out of every problem she’s had.

Blake is exasperated that the last place she could run off to is calling her out for running off so much.

Adam is all like ‘what up bitches, imma kill ya’.

Has sizable team of White Fang commandos with him and some grimm Salem sent.

Ilia shows up with her own commandos to counter his.

Both sides duke it out with the Belladonnas (Nightshades technically) getting pissed and telling all of them to get off their lawn.

Blake fights Adam.

Starts losing.

Sun calls SSN in for the assist.

They help but not all that much.

Sienna shows up to break the stalemate.

Starts kicking the shit out of Adam’s posse.

Officially denounces and attaints Adam for his crimes.

Adam leaves and swears vengeance, telling Blake that if he can’t kill her, he’ll kill RWY and make sure they know it was her that sent him to them.

Blake finally learns her fucking lesson.

Start to pack up to stop Adam before he kills RWY and, either afterwards or in the process, find and reconcile with RWY.

Takes the time to actually explain why she’s leaving this time.

Ghira understands.

Sienna takes partial blame and offers Blake the last known location of a red hooded huntress with a big fucking scythe her spies found.

Blake thanks her, but refuses an escort, hitching a ride back to the mainland with SSSN.

Ghira and Kali thank Sienna for the help but still tell her to get the fuck out and that the White Fang and their war are both not welcome in Menagerie.

In the name of their past friendship, they don’t just shoot her.

Blake has parting conversation with Sun about justifications and personal growth.

She and Sun amicably part ways.

SSSN go back to their usual shit and Blake starts hunting for Ruby.

Her logic is that, as far as she knows, Weiss is surrounded with SDC security and Yang is probably somewhere safe-ish, while Ruby is actively in a dangerous locale and ripe for predation.

Speaking of…

Ruby and JNR are clearing out local grimm around Mistral as expected.

Include sad scene or two there they find the ruins of Nora’s home village, destroyed by bandits.

Tyrian is all like ‘what up bitches, imma kill ya’.

Ruby is actually very eager for a fight against one of the important bad guys.

That excitement is curbed when Tyrian lets her know that he was the one to kill Summer.

Ruby is now more scared than anything.

R+JNR fight him and get their asses handed to them.

They try running but Tyrian isn’t giving up the chase.

Turns into cat and mouse game.

Jaune is pushed to his tactical limit against an incredibly intelligent and just as unpredictable enemy.

Everyone is scared out of their minds.

The cat (Tyrian) is just playing with his food (R+JNR) at this point.

Could have killed them at any point but he’s a sadistic animal that gets off on this shit.

Nora flies into a fury, bellowing that she will never lose anyone close to her ever again.

This creates an opening in Tyrian’s style.

Jaune’s planning manages to exploit this enough so Ruby gets a good hit on him, severing his tail.

He is very unhappy at this development.

Decides that he’s done playing with his food.

Wrecks R+JNR.

About to kill Ruby when Qrow ex machina runs him off.

Jaune discovers his semblance is healing and uses it on everyone that needs it. Which is everyone.

Qrow is annoyed that Ruby ran off on her own but understands.

Says that there’s an abandoned chateau that can serve as a pit-stop.

Been in the Branwen family for ages.

They abandoned it after they lost their fortune and it got overrun with grimm in the past.

Grimm have since moved on but the building is still there.

He’ll explain everything he can when he knows they’re out of danger.

Raven contacts Salem and tells her which direction Yang and Weiss are going.

Salem barely cares about what one of her least important agents is up to.

Notices that Ruby is in the same area and gets wind that Tyrian failed.

Sends Cinder and company to meet up with Raven and get hunting.

Salem makes a point of ordering Cinder to let Tyrian take on Ruby and not get involved against her.

Cinder just happens to ignore that order.

Blake does a little extra tracking but heads in the right direction.

Yang and Weiss hear about a red hooded huntress with a big scythe and follow the rumors.

Everyone converges at the chateau at the same time.

It’s a very all over the place scene.

Ruby is happy to see Weiss and Blake but is a little wary of Yang after how their last conversation went.

Yang is eager to make things up with Ruby but more than a little scornful of Blake.

Blake is scared of everyone’s rejection but understands their anger and is more than willing to work through it if they’d have her.

Weiss is happy to see everyone but her happiness and excitement is curbed by how everyone else is reacting to each other.

The tension explodes when Cinder and co. arrive.

Ruby and Cinder lock eyes.

Ruby goes quiet for a moment-

And then goes completely Broly BERSERK!

Group of boss fights.

Ruby madly charges Cinder in a rage.

JNR, Qrow, and Weiss begin fighting Emerald, Mercury, Tyrian, and grimm they brought.

Blake fights Adam. (again)

Yang fights Raven, constantly calling her on her shit.

Abandoning her and Tai to be some asshole bandit, siding with Salem, being a coward, et cetera.

Says that she has figured out that the reason Raven left was because she’s just a chicken shit coward who can’t deal with the world.

All of her issues and traumas have manifested into a sort of nirvana of wrath that gives her a one-time, ‘fuck you, mom’, power up that puts her at Raven’s power tier level.

Ruby vs Cinder takes them away from the others.

Ruby is in berserk, adrenaline filled, wrath fueled, fugue state, taking hits that should be stopping the fight but aren’t.

Cinder is also not fighting at her best due to A. missing eye, B. her grimm arm having a built in weakness to Ruby, and C. the fact that she had no idea that Ruby would go fucking mental like this.

Ruby eventually knocks Cinder down a pit and promptly passes out from blood loss.

Blake beats Adam and tells him to fuck off, saying that she will not stoop to his level of murder.

Yang overpowers and beats Raven, but barely.

JNR is busy with the grimm and Qrow is busy with Tyrian, who has a freaky grimm tail now.

Weiss is fighting both Emerald and Mercury.

Is losing pretty hard.

Yang shows up to fight Mercury.

WY have their first proper rival fights against E+M.

And proceed to lose.

Raven has heel-face turn and bails them out.

Tyrian is killed at the same time. Small justice for Summer.

Qrow reunites with Raven.

The Branwen siblings intimidate E+M, faking not being fuckoff exhausted.

Dare they stand against this deadly alliance?

Nope.

Emerald and Mercury cheese it.

Raven explains that since Yang beat her, Yang is now in charge of the bandits.

Raven says how proud she is that her daughter is such an ass kicker.

Yang is about to tell her off but then realizes that Ruby is still gone.

They find her in a widening pool of her own blood.

Jaune heals her.

Everyone wonder just what the fuck that was that Ruby did.

It’s not its own power or a sub-power of her new semblance.

She was just that fucking angry at seeing Cinder.

RWBY has a big ‘we beat the middle to high tier bad guys’ group hug.

Ruby affirms that she senses that Cinder is still alive but accepts the hug anyway.

Raven says that Salem’s next target is Mistral itself with Adam’s White Fang hardliners.

Yang says thanks for the info and then tells her to do what she does best and fuck off.

Literally everyone mirrors the sentiment.

Raven leaves in a huff but starts to question her morals.

RWBY is now reunited as a team.

They’re not quite back to normal, but they’re all together again.

Reunited RWBY, JNR, and Qrow now on course to Mistral proper to recoup and make new plans.

Season four done.

#RWBY #does this count as rwde?#Ruby Rose #Weiss Schnee #Blake Belladonna #Yang Xiao Long #Taiyang Xiao Long #Raven Branwen #Cinder Fall #Tyrian Callows #Salem #Team JNPR #but without the P #I regret nothing #Qrow Branwen #How I would do...

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dwight (up 2 lists! comeback king!) soraya (still here! gorgeous performance!) dallas (still here! gorgeous performance!) theo (still here! gorgeous performance!) elodie (still here! can’t wait for true beauty!) kendall (still here! keep us in that baby loop!) seo jun (up a list! gorgeous performance) hensley (up a list! gorgeous performance!) tate (up a list! big time adolescene? yes please!) ruby (up a list! the surprise on save your tears? chefs kiss!) julian (up a list! you better give us those killing even teasers!) kun woo (up a list! can’t wait for true beauty!) philip (up a list! big time adolescene? yes please!) clyde (up 2 lists! gorgeous performance!) poppy (up 2 lists! gorgeous performance!) darius (up 2 lists! gorgeous performance!) hanuel (up 2 lists! happy anniversary babe.) arabella (up 2 lists! gorgeous performance!) roxy (up 2 lists! gorgeous performance!) blake (up 2 lists! gorgeous performance!) duyi (up 2 lists! can’t wait for true beauty!) jiwon (up 2 lists! yas babe. gorgeous performance!) otis (up 2 lists! gorgeous performance!) drew (up 2 lists! gorgeous performance!) zara (up 2 lists! big time adolescene AND emily in paris. girl!) nero (up 3 lists! great performance!)

B LIST - look at you...turning heads and shit...

alyssa (still here! great campaign but? keep promoting pls!) jackson (still here! you’re just a social butterfly, right?) clover (still here..cute insta pics!) lexi (still here...excited for your new product but like, where are u?) nate (still here...barely...) leo (still here...barely...) charlie (still here...barely...can’t believe you missed a chance to perform a new song...) sienna (still here! nothing wrong with flirting a little to keep your spot, huh? ;) ) mallory (still here! thanks for the little teaser!) margo (up a list! don’t let emily in paris lose the buzz!) cameron (up a list! we heard about your cute fan interactions!) disney (up a list! killing eve is getting goooood...) riley (up a list! sometimes it’s just about being around more!) rosalie (up a list. cute insta pics!) mackenzie (up a list...you don’t think we actually missed your original caption, did you?) matt (up a list! sometimes it’s just about being around more!) felicity (up a list! serving some beautiful looks btw) gisele (down 1 list, just couldn’t keep the hype...) sangwoo (up 2 lists! yay!)

C LIST - gone, but not forgotten. catch up soon, queen!

zelda - (up a list! the fans loved you, girl!) marcus (up a list! congrats on not being dead?) elora - (up a list! hello!) felix - (up a list! hey there!) amber - (up a list! nice to see you!) jayde - (up a list! nice to see you!) blair - (up a list! nice to see you!) athena (still here! catch up soon, or?) park (still here! catch up soon, or?) levi (still here! catch up soon, or?) wesley (still here! catch up soon, or?) harvey (still here! catch up soon, or?) danny (still here! catch up soon, or?) eloise (still here! catch up soon, or?) dominic (still here! catch up soon, or?) alani (still here! catch up soon, or?) natalie (still here! catch up soon, or?) kobi (still here! catch up soon, or?) mason (still here! catch up soon, or?) sawyer (still here! catch up soon, or?) adrian (still here! catch up soon, or?) everleigh (still here! catch up soon, or?) christelle (still here! catch up soon, or?) florence (still here! catch up soon, or?) ezra (still here! catch up soon, or?) brody (still here! catch up soon, or?) rory (still here! catch up soon, or?) phoenix (still here! catch up soon, or?) natasha (still here! catch up soon, or?) kyle (down 2 lists...ouch) madison (down 2 lists...lmao) jack (down 2 lists...oof) tanner (down 1 list...don’t ghost us babe) garrett (down 1 list...come back, jack!) jude (down 1 list...gone so soon?) imogen (down 1 list...but why?) ivy (down 1 list...i had such high hopes...) maria (down 1 list...uh)

D LIST - uh, do you even go here? rip

winona (still here...does it get lonely in the dark?) naira (still here...not even a has been, more like a never was...) louis (still here..i was rooting for you...) daveed (still here...a bing bong type beat) lorelai (still here...sitting in the abyss) quinn (still here...i can’t remember what you look like) joe (still here...just a memory) anthony (still here...wow...) persephone (still here...remember when we cared?me neither) isla (still here...follow the sound of my voice!) mina (still here...can’t just TALK about a debut and expect hype) eleanor - (still here...echo, echo...) delilah - (still here...if it got any lower, you’d be there) owen (down 3 lists..embarrassing) yannis (down 2 lists...yikes) bash (down 2 lists...talk about a free fall) river (down 2 lists...the jury’s in...little mix ENDED her) remy (down 1 list, what a free fall...) annabel (down 1 list, um...) margaret (down 1 list, shame...) yulia (down 1 list, are you not embarrassed?) janey (down 1 list. are u missing again?) scarlett (down 1 list. get it together bestie) evie (down 1 list...uh.) luke p (down 1 list...it’s ok king) luke 1 (down 1 list...who even is this?) oliver (down 1 list...oof!)

this list reflects who is causing talk on the fan blog, generally being active and have done something of interest! people will move up and down all the time, but you should never STAY on D or C...yikes!! we’ll update you when we need to!

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