#Queer Chalice

[redacted-coiner]

Chalice & Dagger

[PT: Chalice & Dagger]

Chalice, a queer person who’s presentation is inherently holy/divine in nature.

Dagger, a queer person who’s presentation is inherently unholy/sacrilege in nature.

[Chalice ID: in Alt text]

[Dagger ID: in Alt text]

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[gender-mailman]

Chalice succubus!

Chalice [link] folks who feel connected to succubi in some way; such as being otherkin / therian, an alter, or if you just really like succubi

Coined by me. Requested by no one

[p-rtyboy]

[★] Chalice Kitty [left]

Pt: [★] Chalice Kitty [left] /end pt

Chalice [link] folk who feel connected to cats in some way; such as being otherkin / therian, an alter, or if you just really like cats!

[★] Chalice Doggy [right]

Pt: [★] Chalice Doggy [right] /end pt

Chalice [link] folk who feel connected to dogs in some way; such as being otherkin / therian, an alter, or if you just really like dogs!

★ Coined on July 10th, 2024

★ Colors picked from the chalice flag by @redacted-coiner, flag template [link] by @loveletterliom — etymology: chalice + kitty / doggy

[local-queer-classicist]

I finally got to read Chalice of the Gods and I was not disappointed. Ganymede is probably one of my favorite characters in Greek myth but I wasn’t ever sure he would get to be properly portrayed in the series due to the nature of his story combined with the constraints of a middle grade series. I was afraid if he ever did properly show up the darker elements of his story would get brushed over and that would kinda suck, so part of me never wanted Rick to even try with Ganymede. But I really like how he handled him in this book. The clear terror of Ganymede throughout, how gross Zeus feels (“I like watching him walk away” die in a fire you piece of shit I swear to god), but all handled in the way you might expect the same heavy topics to be handled irl when there are children in the room. The story isn’t gone, the effects are very much there and those who know can see it, but nobody says it and it makes sense that they don’t. Ganymede wouldn’t be comfortable talking about it to a bunch of teenagers he doesn’t know, the other gods/goddesses we meet along the way would either be too uncomfortable with the subject matter in general (as many if not most people would be), not want to tell Ganymede’s story for him, be hesitant to draw Zeus’ ire by portraying him in a bad light, or just not see the situation as a problem due to their nature of being terrible people. It absolutely makes sense that nobody says what’s going on. So even when it feels like it’s being brushed over, it feels like the characters in the world are doing that for their own reasons, not that the author is doing it to spare the innocence of his young readers.

(It’s also pretty on-brand that Percy knew next to nothing about the myth and didn’t look it up. His assumption that the myth would probably be told from Zeus’ side and therefore not be terribly helpful is understandable, but he failed to consider that Zeus is such an asshole that “Zeus’ side” might still include some pretty damning details because Zeus would fail to recognize that he’d done anything wrong that he might want to leave out. I was impressed that Percy took the time to try and look Gary up, though, even if the attempt was unsuccessful. That’s character development hard at work, folks.)

[localenbylesbian]

God i miss cuphead. Please come back its been a year since I’ve seen the silly cups and homosexual dice

[ijustwannamakeemojis]

[ID: Five pixel hearts of various flags in order being Wolf, Tome, Amulet, Chalice, and Dagger. End ID]

[cats-aroace]

started chalice of the gods its so good so far im on chapter 3!! (of course i had to annotate in blue) 💙💙💙

[smoking-witch]

My early 4/20 gift 💚 I AM IN LOVE I'm calling this piece MAH BABAY #iykyk #mightychaliceglass

[orthopunkfox]

Being queer and a Christian is often very difficult. I experience alienation from both sides. Often these two parts of myself feel impossible to reconcile. But, I want to share something beautiful that my priest does that nearly makes me weep every time. The Orthodox Church is not known for its inclusivity or progressiveness. It is ancient and its gears turn slowly. During Holy Communion, those who are not confirmed members of the Church may come forward for a blessing. The blessing is done by gender.

"The servant of God [Name] is blessed..." for men,

"The handmaid of God [Name] is blessed..." for women.

The first time I went up for a blessing, I was hesitant. My gender is no secret and I do not try to hide my queerness. Which blessing would I receive? With sadness, I concluded the priest would do what was simplest and default to my assigned gender.

I stood before him and bowed my head, arms crossed over my (noticeably growing) chest. He raised the golden chalice over my head and lovingly said:

"The beloved of God Quinn is blessed, in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, Amen "

He has done this ever since and with this simple action, preaches one of the main, if oft forgotten pillars of Orthodoxy: It does not matter who you are, what pronouns you use, what colour your hair is, what clothes you wear, what mistakes you've made, what trials you have overcome, where you came from or where you are. You are beloved of God just as you are. You are created in the Image of God and are a sacred vessel of beauty, and there is a place for you here.

This is true inclusivity. Not the white liberal veneer placed on so many churches where the cishet, boomer congregation pats themselves on the back for the rainbow flag outside while actively misgendering the trans person sitting in the pew. My priest has not given any big speeches talking about how everyone is loved here. He doesn't have to. His genuine kindness and that of my fellow parishioners are the only sermon marginalised people need to hear. In these moments, the two parts of myself become one and I truly believe that the God I love delights in me.

[ineffabildaddy]

i have waited

(crowley pov poem - warning for suggestive content!)

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I have waited for you, angel

As woman, as man

As both, sometimes

Red-lipped and hard as anything

Or a drag of lace under gathered breeches

Dew-flecked with my cloudbursts of want

I have waited as neither, a blank page

Fluttering in the breeze from the open window

While you dip your pen in your inkwell

I have waited for you, angel

As a young girl shuns the sunshine of an August afternoon

To sit by the phone until it rings three times

Or, indeed, until darkness falls at last

I have waited for you like an old man

Longing for a death which refuses to come

He sits on park benches and wonders

How he must endure the commotion of life

Just when his soul has found quiet

I have waited for you, angel

As an ocean wave

Which suddenly knows it shall dissolve into foam

Crashes harder than intended on the sand at the prospect of it

I have waited for you

In taverns, coffee houses, glittering ballrooms

In bookshops, in bookshops, in bookshops

On faded rugs and felt-covered armchairs

I have waited with the patience required to finish a Tolstoy

And the hunger that stabs as one devours a great mystery

I have waited for you, angel

Under the stars on a clear night

Thighs trembling around my own crooked fingers

I have waited for you, also

In the solace of my bedchambers

Twisting silk sheets across my chest

So they might soothe the ache beneath my ribs

I have waited for you, angel

In the lodging rooms of country inns

Even as I land face first on a bed of straw

And bend my knees before a brooding stranger

I have waited for you, angel

At the courts of countless monarchs

Arching my back like a good mistress

As one man pulls at the string of my corset

And another knocks over his silver chalice

I waited for you, angel

In a Soho pub over bottles of Talisker

A book by my side, kept as a souvenir

I waited for you, again

One elbow leaning on the Bentley

My glasses fogging up as you retreated one last time

I have waited for you, angel

Since before the stars began

Since the world was merely a funny idea

Which made cherubs giggle and archangels whisper

I have waited for you, angel

For years beyond counting

I can wait a little longer

You know where I am

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Tome & Amulet

[PT: Tome & Amulet]

Tome, someone who is both a chalice and a dagger. This can be a inbetween or just both simultaneously.

Amulet, someone who fluctuates between being a chalice and a dagger.

Context: Chalice and Dagger

[Tome ID: in Alt text]

[Amulet ID: in Alt text]

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[aroaceleovaldez]

hhiiiiiiii in one of your posts you mentioned Jason's bi-coding and either I missed that part entirely or don't remember it (though I'd believe you fully that the text could've had something like that), do you have any examples that you remember?

I covered it in-depth [here] and a little bit [here]. In general Jason's bi-coding most prominently comes up every time he brings up feeling caught between Camp Jupiter and Camp Half-Blood/being "Greek" or "Roman." Particularly this almost always comes up in tandem with Jason thinking about Nico or the Cupid Scene, and if not at the exact same time then usually soon before or after (ex: poison chalice scene with Nico is immediately followed by Jason giving up his praetorship to Frank, Jason getting stabbed in BoO with the "die a Roman" line is followed by Jason thinking about Nico, particularly in relation to Piper). Jason also just generally has a lot of notable dynamics with other queer characters or otherwise being put in comparison or parallel to them (Piper, Nico, Reyna, Apollo, compared to Will particularly end of BoO, etc etc).

Piper also has some interesting bi-coding happening in HoO and into TOA, particularly one that interests me being how different characters in the series are paralleled to mythological figures and Piper is paralleled very strongly to Orpheus. After Eurydice dies, Orpheus takes on many male lovers but never loves another woman again. Piper, after Jason dies, begins dating a woman. (This is not her only tie to Orpheus - Orpheus was also an argonaut, was prophetic [Piper's knife], "singer whose voice influences people/things" is an obvious one, and even her being vegetarian actually applies cause that was an Orphic tradition, etc etc. But her being bi as a nod to her paralleling Orpheus is particularly interesting to me.) Fun stuff!

[p-rtyboy]

Flag id: To be added /end id

Chalice Snow Kitty [left]

Pt: Chalice Snow Kitty [left] /end pt

Chalice [link] folk who feel connected to snow leopards in some way; such as being otherkin / therian, an alter, or if you just really like snow leopards! — This can also be called Chalice Snow Leopard!

Dagger Snow Kitty [right]

Pt: Dagger Snow Kitty [right] /end pt

Dagger [link] folk who feel connected to snow leopards in some way; such as being otherkin / therian, an alter, or if you just really like snow leopards! — This can also be called [x] Snow Leopard!

Coined on August 5th, 2024

Colors picked from the Chalice / Dagger flags by @redacted-coiner , the Snow Kitty flag is based on the Kitty flag by @loveletterliom — etymology: Chalice / Dagger + Snow Kitty

Banner id: @/prettypinknarc in lavender text, with clipart of a rosy maple moth on the left and a black outline /end id

[merlincersei]

Merlin BBC UK TV Show - Opinion Piece Part 23 - Who Is Arthur Really Talking About In This Scene?

Time and again when I revisit this particular scene between Arthur and Merlin (referenced below) I can't help but notice how much "Merthur" has been implicitly queer coded in this show.

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The scene I am talking about is in the Season 2 Episode 4 titled "Lancelot and Guinevere" .

This episode can be summarized as follows:

Gwen is mistaken for Morgana and is kidnapped by Hengist. Uther refuses to pay the ransom or send a rescue party to save a servant. Arthur defies his father and sets out with Merlin to rescue Gwen. ______________________________________________________________

After Arthur and Merlin escape from the Wilddeoren, they have the following scene:

While the casual viewer will look at this scene and state it is Arthur confessing his love for Gwen, however LISTEN CAREFULLY TO WHAT THEME PLAYS FROM 0:55 SECONDS ONWARDS IN THE BACKGROUND OF THIS SCENE.

The theme it plays is Merlin's Arrival to Camelot:

Now ask youself why would the show put in "Merlin's Arrival to Camelot" theme in the background of a scene where Arthur is confessing his love for Gwen?

Especially when Arthur and Gwen already have a theme song called Gwen & Arthur Romance Suite.

Shockingly, the Gwen & Arthur Romance Suite is actually played in the background of a scene between Gwen and Lancelot when they kiss for the first time and Gwen states " As long as I live, my feelings for you will never fade."

Refer scene at 1:22 in the clip below:

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Going back to the scene between Merlin and Arthur, dont you think Arthur's description of Gwen can also be used for Merlin.

[EXT. FOREST, STREAM – DAY] [Arthur and Merlin wash off the Gaia berries by a stream.]

ARTHUR Gaia berries worked. Huh.

MERLIN You didn't know if they worked?

ARTHUR Not for sure.

MERLIN Now you tell me?! Oh! Oh, what's that Wildren eating? It's all right. It's just Merlin. You trying to get us both killed?

ARTHUR I'm sorry. I shouldn't've risked your life like that.

MERLIN Well, they do say love makes you do strange things.

ARTHUR What are you talking about?

MERLIN Why can't you just admit your feelings for Gwen?

[Arthur scoffs.]

MERLIN It's so obvious. A blind man could see it. Is it really that hard to admit you like her? Just say it. (MERLIN THEME STARTS TO PLAY)

ARTHUR I can't! How can I admit that I think about her all the time. Or that...I care about her more than anyone. How can I admit that...I don't know what I'll do if any harm comes to her?

(DID ARTHUR NOT RISK HIS OWN LIFE FOR MERLIN IN SEASON 1 EPISODE 4 THE POISONED CHALICE.

DID ARTHUR NOT FOLLOW MERLIN TO EALDOR IN SEASON 1 EPISODE 10 THE MOMENT OF TRUTH FOR A MERE SERVANT)

MERLIN Why can't you?

ARTHUR Because nothing can ever happen between us! (HOW TRUE! BBC SIMPLY WOULD NOT HAVE ALLOWED MERTHUR TO HAPPEN!) To admit my feelings knowing that...hurts too much.

MERLIN Who's to say nothing can happen?

ARTHUR My father won't let me rescue a servant. Do you honestly believe he'd let me marry one?

(IN SEASON 1 EPISODE 4 THE POISONED CHALICE. UTHER FORBADE ARTHUR TO RESCUE MERLIN AND EVEN HAD HIM IMPRISONED WHEN HE BROUGHT BACK THE CURE FOR MERLIN)

MERLIN You want to marry Gwen?

ARTHUR No! No...I...I don't know...It's all talk, and that's all it can ever be.

MERLIN When you're King, you can change that.

ARTHUR I can't expect Guinevere to wait for me.

MERLIN If she feels as you do, she'll wait for you.

(IN THE END OF THE SERIES, IT IS MERLIN WHO HAS BEEN WAITING FOR ARTHUR FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS!!)

ARTHUR We don't even know if she's still alive.

MERLIN No, she is. We will find her.

ARTHUR Come on. We've got a long trek ahead. Oh, and Merlin...if you dare tell anyone about this, I promise I will make your life a living hell.

MERLIN You mean, more than you already do?

ARTHUR Yeah.

MERLIN We could talk about your feelings while you walk.

ARTHUR Shut up, Merlin.

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I also managed to get a snapshot of a commentary Bradley James and Colin Morgan did for this particular episode and it is available on the DVD. Bradley's commentary is indeed very telling.

I REST MY CASE !!!

[nocturnal-riptide]

Greek mythology in pride month:

Aphrodite and Eros are dressed up in the most stylish way in the colors of the pride flag

Apollo is wearing a golden glittering jacket and nothing under it with less glittery white pants and golden shoes and also wearing golden sunglasses and having a glittery bisexual flag as a cape that almost looks golden and matches his jacket. Somehow he found David Tennant and Ncuti Gatwa and is chatting with them

Hermes is wearing bisexual colors and all the wings in his outfit are the same color as the flag and martha and George (the snakes on his staff) have bisexual symbol around their neck

Dionysus is having a party and he is wearing all in pride (and has some pansexuals stuff around) and looking hot (like in the Hades game) he is chatting with Michael sheen

Zeus is busy cheating on hera

Hera is busy catching zeus

Artemis is in her hunter clothes (like in percy Jackson) and the color of her clothes are ace flag and her quiver is full of arrows with fleches that are colored like aro flag. She is giving her trans and enby hunters tips on diy hrt

Athena is sitting somewhere reading queer books (about ace people) while her owl had put a tiny asexual flag on her helmet

Poseidon is busy drowning homophobes

Hades is chilling somewhere and searching what a leather daddy is because Zagreus told him that he looked like one. He sent Zagreus, Thanatos, and Megaera to deal with jk Rowling. He also let queer souls come out of the underworld for a while, people like Freddie Mercury, Achilles and Patroclus, and Hyacinthus

Persephone is making every pride flag with flowers and maybe some of those flowers were once some homophobes or transphobes

Demeter and Hestia are chatting with a couple of old queer people

Medusa wanted to attend Dionysus' party wearing sunglasses, but got distracted when she heard about Neil Gaiman and is now after him

Ganymede is wearing gay (rainbow) flag and he also has his chalice that is filled with a rainbow liquid and has some tiny pride flags (like those little umbrellas but flag type) in it and pouring drinks for people

Ares and nemesis are tempting people to make a war with homophobes and transphobes

Iris is making as much rainbow as she can needless to say she is wearing all rainbow

All the campers from camp half blood and camp Jupiter are at Dionysius' party and hebe is also there. She is wearing rainbow colors as well

Hephaestus is making traps for homophobes. He isn't exactly wearing anything special but all his traps are different pride flags

Chaos is also watching different parts of earth from above, they are made of void and stars so they can't exactly wear clothes but they are turning nebulas to pride flags.

[revenant-coining]

Holy Dagger | Unholy Chalice

(pt: Holy Dagger | Unholy Chalice /end pt)

Holy/Divine Dagger (link); a queer person who’s presentation is stereotypically considered unholy/sacrilege in nature, but the user sees it as holy/divine.

Unholy/Sacrilege Chalice (link); a queer person who’s presentation is stereotypically considered holy/divine in nature, but the user sees it as unholy/sacrilege.

we feel like these experiences could be described by chalice & dagger, but we wanted a term that was more “upfront” about it ^u^ (smiling emoticon).

holy/divine dagger for cam!

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