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✨Azriel talking to Elain✨
Azriel mastered himself enough to say, “Thank you.” I’d never seen his hazel eyes so bright, the hues of green amid the brown and gray like veins of emerald.
✨Lucien talking about Vassa✨
Vassa.” A twitch of the lips, a spark in that russet eye. “She’s doing well enough. Savoring every second of her temporary freedom.”
Me reading about both:
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folks getting upset at people shipping luc*en with a woman that actually likes him will never not be incredibly funny to me 😭 apologies, i want him to have an actual HEA and not be stuck in loveless mating bond!
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In ACOWAR, Elain and Lucien both have unnecessary storylines when it comes to the plot, but not when it comes to their future romances and I think that’s pretty telling.
Elain’s rescue did not need to happen the way it did. There could have been plenty of ways Elain could have been rescued (even an off page solo Az rescue), but SJM added those scenes to show us just how far Azriel is willing to go to get Elain back. To make sure she’s ok. To cradle her in his arms even after the danger has passed. The rescue did nothing for the actual plot, but it did a lot for Elriel.
Lucien goes on the most useless scavenger hunt of all time. To the point where he ran into Vassa when she had already been temporarily freed by Papa Archeron and already headed to the battle. So why would SJM send away Lucien, take him away from his mate who is finally lucid, and give them zero development as romantic interests, only for him to get back and start gushing about how wonderful another woman is? His journey did nothing for the plot, but it did a lot for Vassien.
There have been so many chances where SJM could have shown us chemistry and a possible future for Elucien, but instead, she has taken the time to build up new romances for them, and more importantly, has set up plots for future books that favor Elriel and Vassien, not Elucien.
As SJM said long ago, “I thought it was pretty obvious.”
#elriel#elain archeron#pro elriel#pro elain#azriel shadowsinger#i thought it was obvious#acotar#sarah j maas#elain and azriel#lucien vanserra#vassa acotar#pro vassien
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If you think about it....
Elain went from being terrified of the Fae, to stabbing the Fae, to falling in love with a Fae.
Lucien went from hating the humans, to going out of his way to find one, to falling in love with a human.
I think it's kind of poetic.
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The next time someone tries to use the argument that Azriels shadows don’t like Elain just show them this…
She makes him lighter, around her he doesn’t need protection of his shadows (which we see gather around him in times of high tension and discomfort or in preparation to fight etc)
And his SENTIENT shadows (which I suspect are a bunch of wraiths like Nuala and Cerridwen, whom worked for Azriel first, his spies) go away to give him and her privacy…
…for all their subtle introverted flirting that’s probably happened during the year between the two gift exchanges.
Since during the second solstice they deemed it necessary to do it in private, so the tone had clearly shifted between them from a gentle, understanding friendship we saw build in ACOWAR, into a romantic tone that has them trying to have a secret rendezdvous and has Az literally losing sleep.
Also, he ‘allowed’ his shadows to collect the necklace box.. so he is their master if you will, meaning he chooses to send them away.
And when they danced with g/wyn’s song, her power, he had to draw them back in since they seemed to react not of his will.
So this is clearly foreshadowing about a new character with a cool power that will surely be significant in the plot. But, definitely also a red herring - Sarah probably thought, two birds one stone? Make everyone sweat and create hype for the next book? Sure why not.
Not only this, but I just re read acowar, which had me paying more attention to Nessians foreshadowing and how ‘obvious’ it was. And how they had moments where things looked positive, only for things to go cold and stagnant once again.. so that we can pick up from it in their book rather than have everything happen in Feyre’s books.
And not to mention that just some time with Vassa had Lucien more relaxed and laughing and more like Lucien from the first book. He was back to making jokes?! They have a couple name from Feyre, the OG main archeron sister. They are definitely also being foreshadowed here.
And I haven’t been that bothered about Lucien’s character since after the first book once he didn’t seem like the same character anymore, but Vassa and Lucien’s personalities and potential for chemistry and an interesting story has even me looking forward to it.
I think we will see a positive conclusion to elain and Lucien in her book, in which it will be resolved happily and a life long friend kind of vibe eventually. -Because tension/stakes/external conflict has clearly been set up first, to make for an interesting story worth publishing.
So alas, if Lucien isn’t going to be for Elain in the end, which I doubt based on the textual evidence and chemistry written, and considering the build up SJM has written for Elain and Az, then it can only be Azriel for her. Hence why we had his bonus chapter ready for the next book.
Yeah, it’s elriel. 🥰
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Something that I always find funny is when el*ciens who also happen to be gw*nriels are so against vassien and always use arguments like "you can´t seriously believe Vassa can carry a whole book", "Vassa isn't going to be the one to kill Koschei", "Vassa is a side character, she isn't getting a whole book", "what can Vassa do against a death god?", "You only ship vassien because you don't want el*cien to happen"
Like, first, Vassa is a huge part of the Koschei plot. You can't seriously believe she isn't going to become more important later on.
Second, I'm sorry to break your heart, but Gwyn is a side character too. We have known Vassa longer than we have known Gwyn and, more importantly, Vassa is more tied to the overarching plot than Gwyn.
And third, I, who was not in the fandom until a couple months ago but read the books in 2021, who had never seen theories or any other content apart from the five books, shipped vassien from the moment we got introduced to the band of exiles.
From my very first read, I was all for elriel and vassien. And I was truly shocked when I came into the fandom and saw how many people were all for gw*nriel (a ship I didn't even know existed) and el*cien (a ship I always thought had zero chemistry).
You can say that you don't like vassien, but having those kinds of arguments is so stupid. Specially when they can be used against gw*nriel.
In my opinion, there's a bigger possibility of vassien happening than gw*nriel, but I may be a little viased.
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Okay…kind of ironic now that the Vassian ship is growing we are starting to see Elu/iens say “Elriels romanticize Vassa’s curse by shipping them because of the line Feyre says “A Bird of Flame and a Lord of Fire”…
I hate to break it to you but shipping Elain and Lucien is no different. Elain was turned against her will. She associated Lucien with the most traumatic event of her life. Elain specifically says she doesn’t want a mate and you all keep wanting her to be with someone SHE FEELS is responsible for her trauma… so maybe sit this one out…because the call is coming from inside the house with this one 🤔
#pro elain archeron#elain supremacy#anti elucien#pro elain#vassien#pro vassien#sjm fandom#acowar#acosf#pro elriel#elriel
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The most important aspect of Elain and Lucien’s mating bond that proves Elucien is not going to happen is not the circumstances of the bond. It’s not Elain and Lucien avoiding each other. All this could be turn around with a good story telling.
The giveaway that Elucien is not going to happen is Vassa. That’s it. SJM wrote Lucien entangled with Vassa’s search for freedom. That’s how his plot is going.
Now, can you imagine a book where Elain and Lucien get together to save another woman…? A woman Lucien is sharing the same roof for a whole year…? I fail to think of references of romance where two mates get together to save another woman. A kingdom? Yes. A court? Sure. The world?! Yup! But an attractive young cursed woman?
For me, that’s the point of no return for their mating bond. Hey, don’t blame the messenger, SJM is the one who wrote like this. When Lucien stared at the window, it was Vassa that populated his thoughts and set his target, not his mate.
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I’m probably so late to the game but Somehow, I always missed the last part that Lucien says here in ACOWAR when he volunteers to go find Vassa:
““This eye …” Lucien gestured to the metal contraption. “It can see things that others … can’t. Spells, glamours … Perhaps it can help me find her. And break her curse.”
He didn’t say that just for Lucien NOT be the one that helps Vassa break her curse. And you can’t tell me that the male who helps Vassa break her curse won’t be her love interest. Vassien and Elriel all but confirmed right here 🔥
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"You only ship Vassien because you're an Elriel".
Um, no??? I ship Vassien because a romance between these two would be hot. And the plot for their story would be so amazing. The son of the spell-cleaver falling for a cursed queen in a Vasilisa the Beautiful inspired re-telling?
Bitch, sign me tf up. Like that's the sort of stuff I'm foaming at the mouth to read about.
#vassien is love#vassien is live#i ship them so hard#vassien#pro vassien#lucien vanserra#queen vassa
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Hey people I am one of the trolls who stir some shit up and no not the one who sends death threats or stuff but the one who stirs shit up,
ABOUT ME
Interestingly opposite to popular belief i actually do have a life, a husband and 3 girls who are teens now, i started working again 8 years ago after my youngest started 5th grade and yeah i live a cozy homey life but sometimes i just find stirring shit up for no reason at all so amusing & interesting, like irl no one could guess it would be me, my kids teachers praises me for being a god mom and supporting not just my girls but donating and helping her friends who need it, my girls love me and i love them too, i do don't drink or anything i work, spend time with my friends/children/ hubby and that's about it,
WHY I DO IT
But since last year I posted a post where unintentionally people got heated and the arguments got passionate, and I love watching it unfold and sometimes I can't help but post some stuff on other's tags/anons to stir shit up, i am guilty but sometimes i can't help it,
HOW I DO IT
Takes two minutes to make a new ID with an email which doesn't exist.
HONEST OPINION
It so funny how down bad you are for your ships and honestly a little pathetic as well, like i spent some time on both sides of the shipping fandom and it's so pathetic watching you guys fight tooth and nail to prove your imaginary friends will make it in the book and the other side are disgusting rats with no reading comprehension, especially elriels, like sometimes i make stuff up and send them anons that gwynriels said this or that and they get so triggered like most of the time they won't even fact check, with gwynriels i think they are more pathetic because they generally keep their pro tags clean and pretend to not care but you can tell that they hate elriels to death but will pretend otherwise like to me being a two faced cunt is more pathetic,
Like i can't decide which side is worse because elriel on one side makes it clear that they stalk the other tags and openly posts stuff from others tags on their tags, like i have seen too many "tell me why i saw this EL/GA theory/art?" and care about GA/EL opinions too much, they will fight to death to prove how the other side is crack ship, idiots to see any sort of romance in two characters which they can't see, will follow and support elriel blindly and many more but i don't like typing anymore,
Proof in the comments
WHY GWYNRIELS ARE PIECE OF SHITS
They romanticize and choose the weirdest hill to stand on, like they will die defending tamlin X nyx and tamlin X anyone, they hate the main characters to death why the fuck are you still reading the books and sitting here if you hate the main people so much?
They will romanticize the wierdest shits "GA having sex where most women feel comfortable after being raped, Gwyn felt the bond and the love after she was actively raped,
As a survivor myself i think these people need to be more mindful and intelligent,
And the whole elain gate thing, dude who posted tamlain? like they whine for no reason at all,
Cry bout minor stuff and are the reason for the threats trolling like if they kept quite and ignored the trolling would've stopped,
Hate elriel and also think they are idiots for not seeing sparks and glows but will act like a two faced cunt and pretend they don't
Proof in comments:
So really both sides are pathetic and i am too but honestly life is getting too busy so maybe i won't be here,
And i wanted to say this before i left,
You guys are the real ones who need a life and i need a psychopath assessment, i'll get it done soon or go to therapy but for now BYE,
Hope you all love and hope you guys understand that you are all the same people
#elriel#elucien#feysand#gwynriel#nessian#pro elriel#pro elain#pro elucien#pro eris vanserra#pro gwynriel#pro gwyneth berdara#pro vassien#pro vassa#pro nessian#pro feysand#pro feyre#pro feylin#pro nesta
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“ A bird of flame & a lord of fire”
I have shipped Lucien and Vassa from the moment Feyre said this line in Acowar. The chemistry we see between them in their small moments already has me foaming at the mouth for their story.
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#lucien acotar#pro lucien#lucien vanserra#queen vassa#vassa acotar#lucien x vassa#vassien#pro vassien#lucien in a man bun though 🔥
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#pro elriel#elriel#azriel x elain#pro elain#acotar#incorrect quotes#pro vassien#vassien#pro amren#mor acotar#varian
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ACOSF Expectations: The intensity of Nessian that we WANTED:
The Unexpected Gentleness & the Fiery Passion:
The Worship & the Care:
The Look of Love:
And what we actually GOT:
#anti nessian#anti sjm#acotar#acomaf#acowar#acofas#acosf#nesta deserves better#not neris#its the bat boy infection im telling you#anti feysand#anti elriel#anti gwynriel#pro elucien#pro vassien#anti cassian#anti rhysand#anti azriel#anti inner circle#anti ic
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I don't understand people who claim that we will hate Lucien and Gwyn, for not wanting him to end up with Elain and her to end up with Azriel. Lucien has been one of my favorite characters since book 1 and I don't want him to end up with Elain, and why would I want that, when Elain is written to end up with Azriel, and Lucien to end up with Vassa? As for Azriel, it's obvious that he's going to end up with Elain (and the excuses about his mental state for not wanting him to end up with Elain are ridiculous because all the characters in ACOTAR have trauma to deal with, so why the hell should Azriel follow some kind of therapy if he wanted to be with Elain ? Ironically of course he doesn't need anything to be with Gwyn, she's apparently the miracle drug...). I like Gwyn, but I don't associate her with Azriel. Literally, there's no indication that they're going to end up together. She is a great secondary character who touched me a lot and I am convinced that her power will have a role to play later. This whole battle on these ships is ridiculous. SJM makes no secret of his very obvious way of writing romances. Elriel and Vassien are the logical path. And I can't wait to see them perform.
#anti gwynriel#anti elucien#pro vassien#vassien#elriel#pro elriel#vassa x lucien#vassa and lucien#elain x azriel#elain and azriel#queen vassa#vassa acotar#lucien vanserra#azriel#azriel shadowsinger#azriel spymaster#elain archeron#gwyneth berdara
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I am so excited for vassien 🥺
I need it. I want my friends to lovers. I want the understanding. The jealousy. I want them to be completely comfortable around each other (and that's the only place where they feel comfortable). I want long stares in a crowded room, with a small smile. I want Lucien to be the only who was never scared of Vassa's fire. I want banter and jokes - quinlar style. I want deep, serious conversations about the destiny of the world. I want them being nerds together. Lucien spending nights awake just to be with her, and then spending the days studying to break her curse + working for those 3 courts, and Vassa seeing how tired he is. Them taking care of each other. Vassa coming to Lucien every time she's stressed. I love that they are much more alike than elucien or elriel. I love couples that feel like one person in two bodies 😅 really want them to be one of those.
I also think about their first time. I want it to be passionate in the beggining, and then gentle and caring, she above him on that pink couch. I want them to share their traumas and heal together.
So, yeah, I have many expectations. I feel like they could rival feysand in my heart.
To finish, I imagine Lucien taking her to see the Starfall. He would see Elain and Azriel together, and Elain would see how happier Lucien is with Vassa, even tho he thinks he can't love her like that. Actually, they would act like a couple long before being a couple. I imagine this angst happening on elriel's book. Gimme my friends to lovers, Sarah.
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