#Pro snape people are stupid

[gg-neptune]

Three

So uh this is kinda rushed at the end but it was just hard for me to write honestly. And yes this is based off my AP tests score and how I reacted. And yes I am still upset. Yes I know I should be grateful but like. :( I hope you like it. <33

Warnings: academic over achiever, crying, age gap? (possibly I mean he's like a year older than them but he's also her teacher and no I do not care that this is not canons shut up leave me alone)

Waiting eagerly, you refreshed the page once more and it appeared. You could only see the top of it, your hands shook in fear at what you might see. This dumb test meant everything to you and now months after taking it you could finally see your score. It was finally time. You had studied for hours every night for 2 months leading up to it. You had an A in the class the entire year as well and had made a 4 on the mock exam. Countless tears and hours had gone into this and now you could finally see your score.

Some might say you were a bit of an academic overachiever. You had gone from making straight failing grades to A's in the matter of a year. You took your grades rather seriously, always being terrified they would drop back down to failing. Your hard work had landed yourself in an Advanced Placement class at Hogwarts. Now you were finally getting your score and you were terrified. 

With trembling hands you scrolled down a bit, looking at your score with great fear. What if you had failed? All your work for absolutely no profit. You wanted a 5. Now you knew this was asking a lot. However you thought you deserved it in a way. This year had been awful and you had gotten a high A in the class so why could you not at least get a 4? You were confident in your answers as well so why not stretch for a 5 as well?

3

You stare blankly at the screen for a moment. Your score is sinking in. A 3. You passed at least. At least there was that. However you were still thoroughly disappointed. You expected more of yourself.

How would you tell everyone? You knew everyone expected you to get at least a 4 or a 5. To get a 3 was almost humiliating. How would you face Severus? 

You and Severus had been dating for a few years. You were still in school as a seventh year while this was his first year as a professor. He had only graduated the year prior being only one year older than you. You two got some strange looks from the younger years but majority of the older kids knew him and you from when he was at Hogwarts as a student so it was not a big issue. 

He expected a lot from you. He taught you privately on his own time along with his lectures in class. He had also been expecting you to pass with a higher grade and you had only gotten a 3. Most of the universities you had been looking at did not even accept 3’s for credit. Most of them honestly only accepted 5’s. And you had pulled off a 3.

A knock sounded at your door. Somehow you knew automatically who it was. A sense of dread built up inside of you immediately. It seemed like a brick had been placed in your throat burning you from the inside out.

“Hey, can I come in,” his deep voice rang out from outside. You felt frozen in place feeling a panic overtake you. The thought of him knowing your score sends you further into your state of distress. It felt like your chest was collapsing in on you. Like your own body was capsizing and you were trapped inside.

The door opened anyway despite you not giving permission quickly after him looking around for a moment his eyes landed on you.

“What’s wrong?” His voice seemed blunt as he just stared at you confused. Not being very good at comforting others he simply stood there staring at you for a moment before thinking that might not be a good idea and taking a seat on your bed.

You attempt to choke out an answer but your throat does not allow you. The feeling of the brick being there still haunts you as you attempt to communicate with the man in front of you. You hadn’t realized before but tears had begun to roll down your cheeks as you stare at him scared out of your mind of what he will say to you.

“It’s… it’s alright whatever it is. Nothing is unfixable I mean like we can even bring dead people back it can’t be that bad just tell me what’s wrong. I can fix it.” Severus tried his best at comforting you he really does but this does nothing to soothe your distress. You can tell by the worried expression and tone of his voice he is concerned but you can not manage to spit out any words. This in fact can not be fixed. Your score is already set in stone. There is nothing you can do about it at all.

A sob suddenly breaks from your mouth as you break. Loud wailing breaks from you as you crumple in front of him. Your body slouched forward onto your knees, sobs wracking your body taking you down. Quickly Severus is leaning forward and gathering you into his arms. Cradling you like a little baby. Pressing your face into his chest allowing you to sob into him he attempts to soothe you again, “Shhh, I mean really it can’t be worth crying over hun what is it? Hmmm?” Putting on his comforting voice instead of his cold monotonous one. 

You reach over to your computer keeping your face still pressed into him, you drag it over to the both of you showing him your score wailing out, “I’m such a failure,” brokenly.

You can’t see his face as he looks but you can only imagine the rage and anger crossing it right now. All of the hard work he had out into you and passing you had failed him.

“I don’t get it? You did great, what's wrong?”

“I got a 3! How is that great,” your voice breaks multiple times as you cry this out. Still sobbing into his shirt you feel both of his arms wrap around you after he closes your computer putting it aside. One hand runs up and down your back soothingly while the other simply stays firmly wrapped around you keeping you close to him.

“Love, a 3 is passing that’s still good don’t be upset,” he whispers out rocking you back and forth trying to calm.

You don’t respond, instead just opting to cry into his shirt as your misery overtakes you. Now logically you knew that a 3 was not in fact terrible but it was not what you wanted. Or what you felt like was expected. However you weren’t quite thinking logically right now, so instead you let Severus just hold you. Letting him take your tears and soak them up.

Eventually your tears subside, having worn yourself out from sobbing so much. Severus slowly shifts you both into a lying position against your pillows, haphazardly pulling a blanket over you both. He keeps you close to him, not letting you get even an inch away from him as he continues his rubbing on your back.

“I am incredibly proud of you,” he whispered into your ear, “I want nothing more than for you to see yourself the same way I see you.”

He continues to wipe stray tears away as they fall. Neither of you say a word to another, you being too scared to speak and him not being sure what would be right to say.

Instead of breaking the silence you snuggle yourself closer to him seeking his comfort. Sniffling every now and again you use his arm as a pillow to try and make it easier to breathe. He presses gentle kisses to your face still whispering his sweet nothings of how proud he is of you and how good you did as you slip off into sleep.

[moonlightdancer26]

Me when I remember that Snape would’ve not only been much happier in life but would have so many less tiring debates about him if he had just remained a loyal Death Eater instead of defecting and sacrificing himself for a world that hated him while getting nothing in return:

[seleneprince]

Aurora, Charity and Sevrina judging people at any chance. They don't even say anything, their faces alone speak out loud.

[lilithofpenandbook]

With Harry, it's not only hypothetical, but if they imagine it, they can make it attractive.

With Snape we get the ugly truth. We see what the actual result of such trauma that isn't overcome, and it is not pretty.

That, and there's the other thing of Snape being brutal even to the children. Notice I said "even". Because Snape didn't wake up and decide "Oh I'm gonna specifically bully children", he is just Like That. His attitude isn't specific to children. We just see it from the pov of the children because Harry is one of them. We have no way of knowing if this is actually Snape behaving himself, we don't know if Snape's actually ruder to the adults around him.

And honestly, I think there's just this really stupid moral standard of "bullying children = bad person". Yes. I've had it. It's a stupid moral standard. Yes, children deserve kindness and all, but at the same time not every single person is capable of that. And just because they aren't being sugar and sweetness to the children, it doesn't make them abusers!

Look at Umbridge. Her voice is all sugary sweet and she's so polite and nice. But she's the cruelest, most abusive piece of trash ever! That's abuse. What Snape is is NOT abusive, he's just the standard grumpy strict teacher! He is like that to every single person! He isn't deliberately being that way to the kids for kicks, it's just how he is!

And the students don't care. He's unpopular, yes, but they don't actively rebel against him, not the way they disliked Lockhart and Umbridge. Unless they're from Gryffindor they just don't really care!

And this moral high ground of deciding someone's a terrible person because they're a little mean to teenagers is absurd! There are so many WORSE flaws a character could have! Look at Draco- he's a bigoted blood purist. There's Regulus who didn't even redeem himself, he just wanted revenge on Voldemort. There's Barty Crouch Jr who tortured people. There's Kararoff who literally sold out his group along with being a very questionable teacher. There's Lucius Malfoy who raised his son to be a blood purist and is why Draco's like that. There's James and Sirius who fucking SA'ed a classmate! I'm sorry, but drawing the line at being mildly nasty to a bunch of children who aren't even your direct responsibility along with the child with the face of your abuser while being Not Okay mentally is fucking stupid.

"oh but the children didn't deserve it" yes, but you know what, there are way worse things than some kids having their feelings hurt by one single teacher in the whole school! And many people have done way, way worse! The children can survive being humbled by Snape. It's not gonna traumatise them! You know what will? Being ganged up on and bullied by classmates, being nearly murdered and then being SA'ed soon after, being groomed into a cult, having fucking abusive relatives, and so on! Not a teacher being a little nasty because you fucked up a potion

Snape's darkness is real, it's truthful, and it's ugly. No one wants to actually see the broken parts, not if it's not broken correctly. And instead of having empathy people decide to have ridiculous moral standards instead of understanding why someone isn't a very nice person. And yes, the moral standard of "he was mean" is stupid.

The Empathy Gap: Harry vs. Snape

There's a noticeable hypocrisy in how people talk about Harry and Snape, especially regarding their experiences with trauma and redemption. I’ve honestly lost count of how many times I’ve heard people say, "Harry had every right to turn into a villain" because of everything he’s been through, and that they wouldn’t blame him if he did.

In contrast, consider Snape, who actually fell into darkness due to his own trauma and lack of support. Unlike the hypothetical scenario with Harry, Snape’s descent into darkness is real, and his attempts to atone for his past have received far less compassion. When Snape seeks redemption, people are quick to dismiss it, claiming, "He didn’t deserve a redemption arc," or "He doesn’t deserve forgiveness."

Sympathy for Harry is easy when it remains theoretical—it allows readers to explore the idea of his potential fall without grappling with the concrete implications of such a transformation in the story. The harsh judgment of Snape starkly contrasts with the leniency shown to Harry, and honestly, it has been bothering me a little.

This inconsistency points to a deeper issue in how people approach empathy. It’s easy to sympathize with the idea of someone like Harry turning dark because of trauma, but extending that same understanding when the fall from grace actually occurs, as with Snape, proves much more challenging. Snape’s efforts to redeem himself are overshadowed by his past actions and harsh demeanor, revealing a gap in people's practice of empathy and forgiveness.

[adh-james-version]

Why have I been seeing so much Regulus, Barty, Evan, and Jegulus hate? And hate on every James ship that ISNT jily?

To all the older people in the fandom that are hating on the new ships, and characterization: This is NOT the same fandom it was 10 or so years ago!!

#1 - Fandoms evolve!

Everything you don’t like isn’t racist, everything you don’t like isn’t facsist, everything you don’t like isn’t fetishizing, everything you don’t like isn’t misogynistic, everything you don’t like isn’t destroying the fandom, shipping James with someone else isn’t anti-Lily, personality head cannons that don’t perfectly align with yours aren’t gonna bring the fandom to its knees.

Every fandom changes as people leave, join, create, write, draw, etc. So when I started seeing people hate so extremely on certain characters, ships, and headcanons, to the point that they are willing to tell someone to off themselves and/or call people stupid/racist/facsist ect. It took me by surprise because not likening something and talking about it or keeping it to yourself is different than telling someone they are misogynistic for liking a mlm James ship over Jily.

#2 - Hypocrisy Regarding Deatheaters

One thing that I see a lot of is people hating on is the fact that canonical deatheaters like Regulus, Evan, and Barty got revamped or “babygirled”. My first point here is that the same people who believe that are also Pro-Snape. While there is nothing wrong with being Pro-Snape, you can’t be Pro-Snape but Anti-Regulus. Both of them defected from the death eaters! They both laid down their lives to try and help! Even if the impact wasn’t the same the want to be on the right side was. You can definitely not like the personality that a lot of the fandom has given him, but you can’t hate him merely on principle without kinda looking like a hypocrite.

Now onto Evan and Barty: yes they were terrible adults and did horrible things, BUT, we don’t know them as school students. That’s why the fandom took them and fleshed them out how they wanted to, they were a virtually blank slate. That’s why many people like the headcanon of them being forced by their families into getting the mark. We don’t know what truly happened so we took some artistic liberties. Again the same sentiment about Snape from earlier can apply: you can’t hate Evan and Barty on principle when in canon (because most people making this argument care religiously about canon) Snape took the dark mark willingly and again canonically we don’t know why Barty and Evan took the mark.

#3 - The Whole Jily Thing

Okay, look. Liking a James ship that’s not Jily, not a big deal. Liking Jily and not liking other James ships, not a big deal. Not liking any of the James ships, not a big deal. Liking some, one, or none of the first two options, not a big deal. Calling someone misogynistic for liking Jegulus or any other James mlm ship, however, is odd. Saying all people fetishize mlm just because they like an mlm James ship over Jily, is odd. That’s the equivalent of someone who ships Jily over an mlm James ship being called homophobic.

This really ties back to points 1 and 2, the fandom evolved and more ships were added. And calling someone a misogynist for not shipping Jily but shipping Jegulus or another mlm ship when in reality they could be the biggest feminist on the planet but just not a Jily shipper.

#4 - Personally

They’re ships, characters, and headcanons that I really don’t like/hate but you don’t see me saying that the ship is going to end the fandom or that it is fetishizing the characters?

For example, I don’t like Snape (as a person, no knock to his his accomplishments) AT ALL, but I don’t think the people who do are racist! I don’t really like the trans ftm Remus headcannon, but I don’t think all the people who do are fetishizing the trans community. I like the Mary x Pandora x Lily ship but I don’t think the people who don’t are anti polyamory!

#5 - Conclusion

Older members of the fandom and people who have been in the fandom a long time really need to calm down a little bit.

And for the people who say things along the lines of “what about canon” and “it can’t severely affect canon”

The EXISTENCE of this fandom goes against canon! You ship wolfstar and nobleflower but you “care about canon”?!?

Okay that’s it.

[olderthannetfic]

I always see people who have never been antis, talking about/questioning how some antis even ARE antis when you look at their taste in media - ie the ever famous joke of "Hannigram is #problematique" "but it's a show where he eats people" or whatever.

I thought I'd weigh in as someone who could, hypothetically, be called an ex-anti (which, thankfully, nothing ever really came out of it - it was just very 2014 keyboardwarrior-esque behavior of me being a chronically online young adult who would share posts in a group chat making fun of certain shippers, or reblog posts about how 50shades is The Most Problematic Media Ever to exist -- basically I was an anti with anti-lines of thoughts, but i never, like, a ran a Shipping Discourse Blog or whatever)

For me, personally, it was a few different things. I can now see how it's incredibly hypocritical that teenaged me shipped Light/L, while still thinking that Dramione was Bad And Abusive. It ultimately boiled down to a) being pretentious, and b) just not understanding media or what proshippers REALLY believed, with a side of c) not realizing that nuance exists. like i was pretty late to join tumblr, I think I immigrated here during PEAK "yourfaveisproblematic" era which definitely did have an impact on my opinions and my tastes.

to elaborate, a.) being pretentious. i mean this one just kinda goes without saying. "I engage in media in a way more intellectual way than you do, don't you know that? You're a filthy and disgusting person who writes Snape/Hermione because you're an actually disgusting pedophile IRL who would probably date your own student that you're abusing if you could. Meanwhile, I'm a very smart, good, and pure person. When I read Uncle Vernon/Harry, I'm doing it in a G-d honoring whump way that clearly condemns abuse, incest, and rape. Unlike YOU who only writes harmful stuff as a way to get people off :/"

(as an aside, i think this line of thinking will ALWAYS be present in fandom and popculture in some way, sadly. ie the recent trend of people hating on booktok bc the books are 'trashy' and how these porn addicts should read real classic literature instead.)

as for b.), not understanding media - i cannot emphasize enough that i was GENUINELY stupid and disconnected enough to think that proshippers REALLY WERE pro-All Of The Degenerate Dead Doves That They Wrote.

why did i feel this way? why did i understand that Lolita clearly isnt pro-pedophilia, but for some reason i thought that someone shipping weecest was? well, first of all, i think that fanfiction is (generally) seen as Less Serious than classic literature, and fandom is a fun place, so i guess i somehow thought that every fanfic/fanartist who wrote Problematic Things, especially Problematic Things that they portrayed as Sexy, really DID enjoy the thought of that Actually Happening To Real People.

and i think THIS is the bulk of why antis ARE antis. i'm not calling them all stupid - i do think BEING an anti is stupid, but at the same time, there are people who are truly smart and good-intended people who just have some really off color opinions about, like, homestuck ships or whatever. Lawlight is okay because notebooks that kill people don't exist so it's IMPOSSIBLE for the Harmful Aspects of Light/L to be romanticized! but schoolyard prejudiced bullies DO exist and are a REAL problem so Drarry is BAD (*truly completely unaware of the fact that there's 'realistic' aspects of the Light/L dynamic and 'unrealistic' aspects of Drarry - such as, for example, Hogwarts arguably being even MORE of a fantasy setting than DN is.*) I know that media literacy is the hot buzzword of the year to throw around in 2024, but, like, i really did not have media literacy.

as for c.), not realizing nuance exists - ok "nuance" might not be the best word here, but i dont know how else to describe it. like, each time ive typed the word "problematic" out in this ask, i've done so in a very tongue in cheek/ironic/retroactive way, but, like, those posts about how Everything Is Problematic, Including Your Fave ARE true. and i didn't like the fact that my favorite media or favorite person might've Made A Mistake! i need to Talk About Its Issues Because I'm So Betrayed That My Dear Sweet Comfort Media Would Do This To Me. I Need To Prove I Clearly Condemn It.

like, i legit morally could not justify reblogging a twilight post without adding in the tags '#this is my guilty pleasure it sucks that the books were so racist though' or whatever. Most people were lucky enough to avoid that line of thinking, but there was an actual group of people who felt a genuine need to virtue signal all the time, partly bc, hey, they WERE passionate about talking abt #issues in media, but also bc of a subconscious fear of If You Reblog A Singular Piece Of Hetalia Fanart, You're Literally A Nazi And Will Get A Callout Post Written About You.

and during all of this i was at the tail end of my high school experience (yes i know im younger than most of your audience, ha). i was going through A Lot emotionally, going through a lot of life changes, and lived in a very . . . interesting household/place where i couldn't do ACTUAL good in the world that i was passionate about. so to make up for the fact that i was genuinely in no place to do legit activism, clearly i had to save the gay community by arguing about johnlock queerbaiting or whatever.

^ and honestly i do think that is the position of most antis. theyre isolated and cant seem to do Enough in the Real Scary World so they have to resort to talking about how bad of a person someone is for "shipping abuse", bc theyre not in a situation where they could, for example, ACTUALLY fight the good fight to end abuse or raise awareness for it.

There was way more to it and way more that I could say, if I wanted to, but this post is long enough as it is and probably doesn't make much sense.

I feel bad for antis, honestly, or at least the ones who are antis in the way I used to be.

--

Oh yes, passionate young fools who think they can at least fix the internet if not their lives make up most of the cannon fodder. Some of the ringleaders are just mini dictators and wannabe cult leaders, but most anti-leaning types are just traumatized or clueless, even a lot of the ones who do serious damage and don't just mock shit in private with their friends.

[bloomstudioart]

you hate lily but ship jeverus???? just what's wrong with you???? that guy threatened to take his underwear off, that's straight up assault. you want that for severus????? that guy????

Let's see, let's see, let's see

I won't color it because it makes me angry that people think one thing directly without thinking that there is something more with arguments

I don't ship that, technically I hate Lily and James

James was a shitty person and when he did that he should have gone to jail, I don't doubt that there was even that and more to Snape and that's why Snape hates Harry so much, Since I might remember the trauma that James gave him, in the Latin dubbing of the movie, they called James a pig, so, it's accurate.

I know about that, it really gives you an incredible hatred for the person who does that shit to you, and more so when you don't get justice and nobody believes you or believe you because you are a outcast (I worked in hospitals, in health centers and also because of personal experiences with sexual abuse)

This is a collaboration and I'm not afraid to give my opinion that Lily and James Potter were shitty people.

Everyone idealizes Lily, they fell into the same thing as Snape, that she is supposedly an angel

She LET her "friend" SUFFER FOR IT

She couldn't even tell anyone?, but above all

WHERE WERE THE TEACHERS?!

DID THEY TURN A BLIND EYE WHEN A STUDENT WAS ABUSED?!

Obviously Snape screwed up really hard, he is a victim and an aggressor at the same time.

A victimizer

In particular, I hate Snape shipping with the Marauders, or Lily or Lucius or anyone who isn't in their right mind or doesn't treat Snape with descent.

I don't make ships, I rarely make ships, I only draw characters, and if this is a collaboration of this character with James, it's because I like the person with whom I do the collaboration.

My thinking is based on that, not the ship, so kindly I ask you to not assume nonsense that no one told you, thank you sweetie, have a nice day <3

I also don't doubt that just because of a ship people are not good people, it's stupid to assume that, unless they make ships with minors, that is, maps, or make incestuous ships...

And yes, I'm pro Snape, But at the same time we have to remember that we shouldn't fight over a stupid thing like this, even so, it makes me nervous that they believe nonsense about me when they don't even know me

[thedoewitch]

THE TRUTH ABOUT HARRY POTTER CHARACTERS

In the last few weeks, I've seen many arguments between the stans of different characters in the HP Fandom. And this, this exact post is about my opinion, mixed with canon (books) and how they normally should have been perceived.

This is part one of the series explaining the characters in the Harry Potter Universe. It will be long, seeing as many are hateful towards characters who did nothing wrong, or love them for all the wrong reasons.

Two big arguments will be explained in this post. Two biggest arguments about Anti-Character vs Pro-Character.

Anti-Dumbledore vs Pro-Dumbledore;

Now, there are many people who are on the anti-Dumbledore side of the fandom, and I can understand why. It is not a surprise, considering what has been done by Dumbledore in the series.

However, Albus is one of the many-layered characters. He was a Blood Supremacist throughout his life, even as an adult, until his sister Ariana Dumbledore died.

He is, like many others, a flawed character, just like us real humans are. He was in love with Gellert Grindelwald (Which he has no fault in, you cannıot control who you fall in love with), and was willing to take the world under their control just because Gellert wanted to.

In the Marauders and Lightening Era timeline, he did many horrible things. He went as far as using Fudge to gain things to his favor, he used Severus and Harry, and even Remus and Sirius and Rubeus (Hagrid) as the events unfolded, and he even neglected other students while trying to control everything that he can, even though he is a HEADMASTER, a person who s supposed to keep the school's students safe. And the fact that he left Harry in the Dursleys' footsteps and not checking on him properly was disturbing, no matter if Arabella Figgs was there. He didn't care to check up properly.

He did all of that, yes. There is no arguing about it, it is in The Fantastic Beast, in the Harry Potter books, in the Secrets of Dumbledore, in the Crimes of Grindelwald. He did all of those things that nowadays seem impossible to do.

But- He also did good things. He accepted Remus into the school, albeit it was stupid of him to do so with only a place he can transform that he can break free easily if not strictly controlled. He accepted him because he wanted people like him to have a chance.

We even see another werewolf student in the game called Hogwarts Mystery, which I liked and enjoyed. He is not prejudiced against them, and it makes their life easier.

He gave Harry and other students support throughout their life at Hogwarts. It excluded Slytherins, sadly, but he did try to be a good role model and also tried to relieve the students from stress by doing things like canceling the exams and even saying seemingly ridiculous words during the meals. He was truly afraid that Ginny was taken into the chamber, it is obvious in the CoS book when Lucius paid a visit to Albus.

He supported the adults like Alastor and Kingsley and Tonks, warned Sirius and the like against doing things that could be dangerous for their lives. He did care about them. Even, I'm sure, Marlene and Dorcas had a place in his heart because he does everything to help them win the war and live in peace.

Anti-Snape vs Pro Snape;

Severus Snape, like Albus, is a many-layered character. He is defensive and strict and is a bully throughout his adulthood. He is brave and courageous, stubborn and selfless.

Snape is not dark or light. He is not black or white. He is a Morally-Grey character through and through. There is no arguing against that.

Severus as a kid has done nothing wrong. The argument of him being obsessed with Lily when he was NINE is a very wrong thing to say. He was, as explained in the Pottermore likely abused by his father who was a drunkard, and from the writing in the books, his mother was likely neglectful as well. A kid who has gone through that will not have good social skills, or know how to talk to anyone politely. The fact that he is living in a dark neighborhood is probably an aspect of this as well.

He used accidental magic on Petunia, and he had no fault in it just like Harry had no fault when he deflated his aunt. Petunia insulted his mother, just like Marge insulted Lily. He had no control over his emotions, and thus, the accidental magic is not him being a hater.

During the train ride, all he said was he wanted to be in Slytherin. Why? Who knows, maybe his mother was sorted there and he wanted to feel closer to her. James and Sirius immediately attacked him with their words after that. Again, he is a kid. An 11 years old kid. He did not have a fault in that.

During his years at Hogwarts, he faced many more of the Marauder's bullying. And, yes, it was bullying, J.K Rowling said it, in the books even Harry thinks it is bullying, and Sirius accepts that fairly easily.

In his fifth year at Hogwarts, he is a fifteen-year-old and Sirius is 16 years old, Sirius sent him down the Willow Tree in the full moon. Why? Of that, I have a few theories but we don't know if any of them are true. He sent him down there on a FULL MOON, where Remus transformed, wanting to get a laugh of it.

He was almost killed, but saved by his enemy James Potter at the last second. He was forced to keep shut about this, which definitely added to his many traumas throughout his life. He was punished while he was the definite victim in this situation, along with Remus who was used by his best friend.

After this werewolf prank, it is obvious that the bullying got worse. It is probably because the Marauders had to do something to not let their friendship crumble, and blaming the whole situation on the victim, who is someone they hate or at the very least dislike seemed a good idea in their eyes. And thus, Snape's Worst Memory happened.

Lily and Severus' relationship was already falling apart by the fifth year. After the prank, they confronted each other and talked about the things they witnessed.

It is very disturbing how Severus did not care that Mulciber and Avery used dark magic on an innocent Gryffindor called Mary MacDonald. However, he also points out that the Marauders used a hex to grow Bertham Abrey's, a Slytherin's head grow his head twice its size. It is not Dark Magic, but clearly illegal. This hows that Marauders bullied everyone they could from Slytherin, and Sirius even admitted that himself.

Both of them are set in their ways. Lily doesn't acknowledge that Severus has to spend time with the Slytherins as he is a Slytherin himself. And Severus doesn't acknowledge that using Dark Magic to harm others is disturbing when others use Light Spells to hurt others instead, not realizing that both of them are wrong.

In SWM Lily definitely doesn't do everything she can do, along with Remus. They both are prefects but Remus stood back, and Lily only confronted the Marauders, not bothering to inform a professor at the very least.

Severus was very wrong in saying Mudblood to Lily. Sure, he was under a lot of stress, and he is a Half-Blood so the term also applies to him, but it was the last damage to crumble the wall of friendship the two had between them. But he did not deserve to get his trousers to get taken down and get threatened to be stripped completely. That was sexual assault, and no one deserves that.

After all of that, he apologized and left Lily alone. He was not obsessed with her. I'm sorry, but no one is saying that you cannot love a person who is in another relationship. It is not a crime, and he didn't even tell Lily about his feelings. (And I do not believe that 'feelings' were romantic. It was most definitely platonic, It is written like one, and the strong lesson the HP Series has is the power of Love.)

He went Dark after graduating, but when he discovered that he was going to be the cause of his ex-best friend's death he deflected quickly. I do not understand how people find this creepy. Regulus 'deflected' (not fully) for Kreacher, Narcissa, and Lucius for Draco and Albus for Ariana.

He agreed to be a spy for Albus and took a Vow to completely submit himself to a cause he had not yet believed completely in. After Lily's death, his life was devoted to protecting Harry.

He was a bully during his adult years. Now, it is mostly because traumatized people act mature, but their mentality goes backward, and the proper age of becoming fully mature comes later on. With his state, it would be at the very earliest when he was 53 that he would be fully mature, but it is also because he cannot let go of the past and heal from it.

He treated Harry and Neville horribly when not in class. And in class, he was strict with everyone. Even the others were the victim of his bad attitude.

However, no matter how mean he wanted his students to be safe. He protected Harry because of the Vow, that is true, however, he also protected and attempted to protect every other student, like the time he was worried for Ginny when he was taken into the Chamber.

He was a shitty person with a shitty backstory. He had no control over his emotions when he was with Harry, and bullied him because of his looks leaning towards James. It was not acceptable, and he was most definitely a bully, but he was not an abuser.

He despised physical punishments and refrained from physically attacking others, and the only exception was when Harry invaded his privacy when he looked into the pensieve.

He truly believed in the reasoning of the Light after all those years under the Vow. When it was clear that Harry was going to die no matter what he did, he did not go off to Voldemort to give him the secrets Dumbledore told him, no, he tried to protect his students and aided Harry secretly to destroy the Hocruxes.

He died a hero. Without him, the first Wizarding War would be won by Voldemort and everyone would be at Riddle's service to torture or kill or use. If he was loyal to Voldemort, the Battle of Hogwarts would end up with Voldemort truly killing Harry, and the whole fate was on his shoulders.

He is the bravest man throughout the series. He is a Hero, He is an Anti-Hero, he is an awesome spy, he is a bully, he is bitter, he is selfless, he is stubborn, he is loyal, and he is many more combined together.

He is not a villain, and he is not an evil reincarnate of a Nazi. He is a good person with bad doings. He is not innocent but he definitely deserved to be both praised and put down for all of the things he did.

[darklinaforever]

Me, when I discover that my favorite pro snape and anti snater blog is also anti Daemon Targaryen and anti Rhaenyra Targaryen...

Frankly, I know everyone can have their own opinion, but being seriously anti Rhaenyra is such a proof of crucial misunderstanding in terms of reading and even watching the HOTD series.

Especially since it's over and over again the same stupid arguments of Rhaenyra not following the rules, that her decisions impact others and that she expects everyone to accept without flinching... Like, we can't not be more off the mark. What did Rhaenyra do so horrible ? Children out of wedlock ? This response should be banned outright because it's so bullshit. Not telling Alicent that she lost her virginity perhaps ? Even worse. No really, I don't know what can be said about Rhaenyra before the war. She literally DID NOTHING to people !

I swear I want to vomit when I hear someone say they're anti Rhaenyra...

[quillinhand]

It's very hard being a snape fan and a marauders fan. I love Severus and I love James, Sirius, Lupin(Peter is Peter and I think it's perfectly acceptable to dislike the little rat) I love how complicated all their characters are. How they not perfect people and they both have done horrible and good things. Part of the blame is on themselves but the school and the adults in their lives certainly didn't. The stupid feud didn't either. I'm of the opinion that you can love both. That James and Severus both did change as people. What's your take on it? Also I find it rather hilarious that Lily and James best friend and person they chose to watch over their son is a lot a like.

Hi!

It's very hard being a Snape fan and a marauders fan.

I definitely think so. So much of both communities; both the snapedom and the marauders fandom is defined by a hatred of another, and though you do get some people with a middle ground; they are few and far in between. as someone who LOVES the snapedom with all my heart, a part of me wants to say that we totally are open with any opinion towards the marauders, but then again I have seen hate comments on many neutral/pro marauder posts, so that would be completely false. and ofc, the marauder's fandom is very much hostile towards any opinion that doesn't fall into their cookie cutter version of perfect(i must admit I am very much biased on that side of the fandom, so).

Personally, I like to think I fall in the middle. I've liked Snape and the potential of his character for a long time, and I like individual members of the Marauders(Sirius and Remus are my blorbos and I will die on this hill). Peter, I really don't have an opinion other than pity. James, well, I'll get into that later on in the post.

How they not perfect people and they both have done horrible and good things. Part of the blame is on themselves but the school and the adults in their lives certainly didn't.

This, a million times. I think everybody, regardless of who you like, can agree that the prominent characters from Marauder's era were all set up to fail. James grew up around yes men, with parents who spoiled him and friends and teachers who adored him too much to nip his arrogance in the bud. Sirius grew up in an unstable home, withstanding abuse and no helpful assistance for his issues(again, the yes men problem). Remus was literally assaulted at age 5, and cursed to become a bloodthirsty monster once a month, with little to no rights and a very diminished sense of self worth(then feeling like he was beholden to dumbledore/marauders for a place at hogwarts and friendship, thus resulting in his cowardice.) Peter idolized friends who saw him as lesser and then was later fighting in a war he didn't have a hope of winning. Lily was a muggleborn with one significant friendship and little to no social status. Snape was an abused, socially disadvantaged boy who got into all the wrong things in the middle of a war. they've all made so many mistakes and done horrible things, but I think you can pinpoint each and every reason and cause for each thing they did.

The stupid feud didn't either.

and ofc, their hatred of each other just added to the shitshow.

I'm of the opinion that you can love both.

absolutely. same. :)

That James and Severus both did change as people. What's your take on it?

ooh, this is going to be fun. ok so:

let's start with snape. 19-20 year old snape is very different from 31 year old snape, and this snape is much different from 38 year old snape. In his teens and youth, he's very much edgy bad boy/kylo ren, with all of the boxes checked, sad backstory, interest in villainy, and that one person who believed in him. he's not as composed or as ... posh, let's say. he's emotional, very dramatic(this doesn't change) and character wise, he's very much evil/grey.

fast forward to late 20s, early thirties snape, this one actually has a life that isn't angst. he gets a kick out of being an abysmal teacher, he's a certified dick, he was batman in an other life, he's badass with an emphasis on ass. i believe this period in snape's life is the least dramatic. he's just living his life. he had all that redemption shit in his past- but no, wait

because harry potter is in town, and though we don't see it, snape's changing. gone is his 'i don't give a fuck' persona; now he's forced to give one by dumbledore and later, voldemort. he's got antihero shit to do, and he does it. he's the plot device now, the one that's evil but not actually. thats him in book one, in book two he's the comic relief/background character, in book three he's the kinda sorta villain- and this is the game changer book in terms of his character. til now, snape doesn't necessarily like dumbledore, but he trusted him. with dumbledore once again supporting the (remaining) marauders, that trust, however feeble it had been, is now gone. which puts him and dumbledore in a precarious position throughout GOF, and an even worse position when voldemort returns.

see, snape likes to think he's very good at pretending he doesn't care/doesn't show his emotions. and though he's right on a superficial level, it's almost comically easy to read him. basically, the angrier he is- the more emotional he is. and throughout the last three books, he's in this weird balance of being oddly guarded and absolutely furious. behind walls of hostility and mystery was a man who's furious, terrified, sad, resigned, and trying his damn hardest to stay alive. he's back to where and who he was at 21 years old, except he knows what he didn't know then, and this is the pivotal change in his morality. He used to be a guy who realized that the movement he supported was hurting people he cared about, but now he's becoming a person who doesn't want anyone to get hurt, because he's 37 years old and he's fucking exhausted of lying and killing and fighting for a world that truly doesn't give a fuck. 'lately, only those whom I could not save,' is an underrated line for this reason alone; severus snape wasn't a man redeemed on a hilltop pledging his alliance to Dumbledore to fix his wrongs, he was redeemed more than a decade later, fighting in a pointless war and realizing that if he can't fix his wrongs, at least he can fight against the causes of it.

now james, on the other hand is a totally different bean. I'm not saying he isn't a good guy, but I most definitely don't think he changed, and here's why.

see, james potter is and will always be a good guy™. his world is black and white; where the heroes are like him and the villains are less than. and for the most part, this was never directly challenged. but it was indirectly challenged many times, and i'll talk about the ones that affected him the most.

first: the train scene and Sirius. A boy from a dark family who's kinda uncomfortable with the painfully light ideas he's spewing, but still buying it because the alternative is so much worse to him. James adjusts with this one remarkably quickly, he's a quick thinker, and in his eyes, Sirius is good because he agrees with him. it doesn't challenge him significantly, and besides, he likes this boy, so it's fine. who cares if he's a black. he's sirius!

second: Remus and the werewolf thing. Again, much of the same thing happens, and James still takes it in stride, because it's his friend and he would've died rather than turn on his friend. this is the defining and redeeming quality of james potter's character; he's loyal to those whom he deems deserving of it. and sirius, remus, peter have joined that list. James is a good guy, and he thinks remus couldn't possibly be like the other werewolves, because he's remus!

third: Lily. Lily challenges him throughout their years at Hogwarts- about his opinions, about his character, about his actions. but at the end of the day, she falls in line with his opinions(she cuts snape off), she still is attracted to him pre-7th year, which was when he supposedly changed, his actions(even when they were together, she didn't know that he was still getting into fights with snape). at the end of the day, even Lily affirms James.

see the trend here? james potter doesn't change how he thinks. he just makes exceptions/he rejects the challenge. sirius can't be bad, because he's sirius and sirius is his friend. remus can't be bad because he's remus and remus is his friend. and the same logic applied to peter when he was offered as the choice for secret keeper. his opinions can't possibly wrong because- look, he's right!

this is not me saying james potter was a bad person. of course not! some of the best people I know have this mentality. but he started out a bully, and tbh, best case scenario, he became a judgmental person. that is the farthest I think he changed.

again, I don't think he's a bad guy. teenagers are dumb, cruel people. james potter did bad shit as a teenager, but so did Snape, and as much as we point to his abuse as a reason why, being spoiled and encouraged on despite everything is still abuse, just a different kind.

the only reason I don't like James Potter when I do like Snape is because nearly everything I mentioned was reading between the lines and other headcanons. And even then, though he had the potential to be, he wasn't a dynamic character. he doesn't change, despite every opportunity to do so, and his misbeliefs are affirmed again and again.

At the end of the day, James the character exists to push Snape's character forward. And that isn't a very attractive thing to like.

I find it rather hilarious that Lily and James best friend and person they chose to watch over their son is a lot a like.

Sirius and Severus are both two extremes of the same story, and that's something that's incredibly interesting to explore, but this post is too long already, so I'll stop now. Thanks again for the ask!

[iliadette]

Antis and snaters in particular stop comparing the lives of fictional characters to historical tragic events that really happened challenge

“BOOHOO mean Snape tested a potion made by Neville on Trevor keeping the antidote on hand and the familiar was unharmed, my God what and AWFUL and CRUEL man!!!”: 13385491763591736254 notes

“Snape saved Lupin’s life during the Battle of Little Whinging”: 4 notes, one of them complaining about George’s ear

“Snape saved Katie Bell”: 1 note

“Snape saved many people while spying”: 10 notes, one saying “But he was still a dick!”

Ladies and Gentlemen, let me introduce you to…

[moonlightdancer26]

a Snater just said: if there are lovers of Snape, what would you answer to defend Snape if he is Neville's boggart?

Good thing you added the “a Snater just said” in the beginning otherwise I’d have started throwing hands 🤺🤺

Anyway, there are many reasons as to why and how we defend him. Firstly, you’ll have to understand that it really is not as big of a deal as Snaters think it is. Yes, it definitely says a lot about Snape’s teaching methods and Neville’s fear, but it’s been blown out of proportion by this fandom.

Boggarts aren’t always your true worst fear, sometimes they are, but not always. And that’s certainly not the case for a class of 13 year olds. The thing about Boggarts is that they usually grab at what’s currently on your mind, for example: when Remus was describing Boggarts to the class, Ron’s thought process must’ve been “worst fear? Oof, definitely spiders! I hate spiders!” Was it his deepest darkest fear? Probably not, given that his little sister was taken into an ancient chamber and was nearly killed the previous year. He had a phobia of spiders, so that’s what he thought of first. The same goes for Hermione and the thought of McGonagall failing her (and failing in general). And Dementors had been (literally) introduced to Harry a few weeks before, so it was a recent fear for him.

Snape antis also like to use the “WELL BELLATRIX TORTURED NEVILLE’S PARENTS SO THAT MEANS HE FEARED HIS TEACHER OVER-” as an argument to prove why Snape is the devil reincarnated, but Bella was not even introduced to the story at that point, and she was a distant concept to Neville (like Voldemort used to be for Harry, at least until the end of PS). She had tortured his parents when he was a baby, he didn’t even remember it. And he didn’t necessarily fear her at the time, probably just angry and upset about his parents’ tragedy. Like I mentioned in the paragraph above, boggarts are mostly “what’s on your mind rn?” fears, and Snape had just humiliated him in front of the class, meaning he was crisp in Nev’s mind. If it had instead been McGonagall in the room and she called Neville stupid (like she did in front of the Durmstrang students), then his Boggart might’ve even been her. [That’s not even considering the fact that she endangered his life more than once.]

As I’ve stated, that incident was extremely over-exaggerated by this fandom, and it’s proven when you realise none of the people in the scene—including Neville and a professor—even took it seriously. Neville was literally grinning and Remus didn’t show a hint of alarm at this. And besides, the scene seemed to only really be used as comic relief. I’m sure all that went through Rowling’s head was “hehe look at meanie Slytherin professor wearing women’s clothes” (psst, your transphobia’s peeking through, JKR).

I hope this explained it to you, anon. I’m not sure about your opinion on Snape, considering what you wrote before your question. So I’m assuming you’re pro-Snape since antis tend to be a lot more condescending, but if you aren’t, then I still hope I managed to explain it well. Good day.

[royallygray]

This has been sitting in my drafts unfinished for a while. I love this idea and I believe it should be shared now. SO:

Harry Potter epilogue au where everything is the same except instead of a boy Harry had a girl for his second child and named her Ruby Minerva (or Ruby Athena, for more subtlety).

And also, less relevant, but he named his og daughter Liliana Luna and she goes by Ana (pronounced like from Frozen). and also he named his first son James Sirius, but called him Jay until the kid actually chose the name James

basically I give the kids an option to grow up into their namesake's legacy or not.

And also Scorbus is canon except since it still needs to be gay I've made Scorpius trans. She comes out sometime in fifth year or smth and starts going by Scorpia, nickname Pia. Or something else completely but I don't have that. Maybe Aquila? or some not star name. straight up goddess name prolly. Persephone. I can see that

rewrite of the "what if I'm in Slytherin" for this au except I haven't read it in a while and I do not feel like climbing over my table to get to my dusty bookshelf and pull deathly hallows out from it so

HERE YOU GO

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"Dad?" Ruby asked quietly, so quietly that Harry has to strain his ears to hear her. "What if I'm put in Slytherin?"

Harry turned towards her, squatting down so he and his daughter were on the same eye level. "Ruby," he said gently. "What do you mean, what if you're put in Slytherin?"

"Well." Ruby struggled to find her words for a minute, and Harry waited. "Slytherin's the house where the bad people go, right? What if I'm a bad person?"

"Ruby Minerva Potter," Harry said, "firstly, you're not a bad person. You're a kid. You're eleven years old, and you're such a kind person. You're not a bad person, and I've known a lot of bad people, in varying shades of gray."

Faces flashed through Harry's memory. Dumbledore. Snape. His dad and Sirius. Voldemort, Tom Riddle. Umbridge. Fudge. Peter Pettigrew. Barty Crouch Jr.. Quirrell. Bellatrix. Lucius Malfoy. The Dursleys. Varying shades of gray, all of them. Some darker than others, some with more color.

He's had a long time to reflect. He knows what bad people are like.

"What are the traits of Gryffindor house?" Harry asked.

Ruby blinked. "Brave, courageous, loyal-"

"Traits of Hufflepuff?"

"Loyal, kind, hardworking-"

"Ravenclaw?"

"Dad," Ruby said, frustrated. "What's your point?"

"I'm getting there," Harry said. "But first, what are the traits of a Ravenclaw?"

"Clever, smart, wise, creative," Ruby listed, "intelligent-"

"Traits of Slytherin?"

Ruby stopped, staring at her dad. "What?"

"What are the traits of a Slytherin?" Harry repeated.

"Um. Well, evil?"

Harry shook his head. "Nope. Not inherently."

Ruby raised an eyebrow at him. "What do you mean?"

"Slytherins are ambitious, cunning, leaders, and determined, and other traits I'm missing out on." Harry looked at his daughter. "Are any of those traits inherently bad?"

Ruby scrunched up her brow. "I mean, cunning can be used to manipulate, and-"

"Okay. Are courage, bravery, loyalty, and passion inherently bad traits?"

"No! It's good to be brave, right?"

Harry nodded. "Yes, but you can always be brave for the wrong reasons. Standing up for something you believe in that can be wrong. Standing up when it's not safe and in fact stupid for you to do so. Loyal to the wrong people. Passionate about evil things."

Ruby frowned. "But you were a Gryffindor?"

Harry nodded. "Yes. We're getting to my point soon," he told her, seeing her confused face. "Are loyalty, kindness, determination, and trust all inherently good traits?"

"I mean, what you said about loyalty," Ruby said. "Like being loyal to the wrong people. And I guess determination for the wrong things?"

"Sure," Harry agreed. "And being naïve can come with being too kind and/or trusting. How about intelligence and creativity?"

Ruby shrugged. "Get to the point."

"You can get lost in your head, look down on people, etcetera. What are the pros of being cunning, ambitious, leading, and determined?"

Ruby frowned. "But you did negatives for everyone else?"

"What are the pros?" Harry repeated.

Harry watched the gears churn in his daughter's brain. "I mean, you get further in a workplace. And if you're a leader, you can help other people get there too. And you have hopes and dreams and a desire to keep going."

Harry smiled, nodding. "Yes. Those are Slytherin qualities. All qualities in each House have their own pros and cons, and Slytherin is no different. Ambition is not inherently evil. And Ruby," Harry said, placing his hand on her shoulder. "It doesn't matter what House you're in. It doesn't matter what traits you have. It matters what you choose to do with those traits, whether you choose to live your life for good or for evil.

"And no matter what, hon, I'll be proud of you, okay?" Harry smiled at Ruby. Ruby smiled back.

"Okay, Dad."

"Fantastic." The train's warning whistle blew. Harry stood up, dusting off his knees. He beamed at his daughter. "You'd better get going," he said, gently clapping her on the back. "Good luck at Hogwarts, honey." He leaned down and kissed her forehead. "I love you."

Ruby grinned. "I love you too, Dad."

Harry watched as she gathered her things and went aboard the train. He waved at her well past when the train went out of sight.

He knew she'd do well.

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didn't know how to end that anyways like and subscribe

and also here's a random ass scene based on some Tumblr post somewhere that I find funny and I drafted it in this post and now am too lazy to move it

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"Well, y'know, as Timmy always said-"

"Who the fuck is Timmy?" Hermione asked, bewildered.

"Timmy? You know Timmy. You've met," Harry said, looking at Hermione in confusion. "Tim?"

"...Does not ring a bell."

Harry sighed. "Tommy? Tom?" Hermione stared blankly at Harry. He sighed again. "Voldemort?"

"What the- YOU COULD HAVE JUST SAID VOLDEMORT!"

Harry shrugged, even as Ron fell off of his chair from laughing. "I think it would've been funny to address him as Timmy. He would've gotten so pissed off."

"He would've been like, 'Potter, what did you call me? Timmy? It's not Timmy, it's Tommy. Wait it's not even Tommy, it's Tom. HOLD ON ITS NOT TOM ITS VOLDEMORT POTTER YOU FOUL HALF BLOOD!'" Ron mimicked, rising from the floor.

Harry laughed. He sighed. "Merlin, I should've done that during the Battle of Hogwarts."

Hermione choked on her water. "Just call him Timmy in front of the entire British Wizarding World?"

"Yes," Harry said simply.

[maruke2003]

First of all let's make it known that you a Snater came onto my perfectly tagged anti James post. So yeah you're going to see people saying Snape wasn't abusive a lot. Second of all this post is from way back in August. Meaning you were either on the anti tag or scrolling through Snape fans accounts.

Second of all Snape wasn't abusive, he wasn't considered abusive for the 80s and 90s as a teacher. In nowadays if Snape was a teacher then 100% he'd be considered abusive. But then again in nowadays I think a head of school would have sent someone with the amount of trauma he had, to therapy. I'm not sure if you're aware of the cycle of abuse but to me Snape is a perfect example of it. Someone who doesn't get any sort of help in their life, and was abused or bullied when they were younger, they're doomed to repeat those actions.

Now onto Neville's boggart. The boggart being Snape doesn't bother me for a few reasons, one it's more of what he represents (I'll get into that). In the books Snape was in the teachers lounge when Remus brings the students in, Snape insults Neville to Remus right off the bat, meaning Snape is on Neville's mind at that moment. Neville also practically admits his boggart could have been his grandmother. And we know for a fact that Neville didn't have the best childhood, wether or not his grandmother participated in attempting to force the magic out of him or not, she was negligent. Neville was able to laugh at the idea of Snape being his boggart as well defeat said boggart easily, not only once but twice.

To me this doesn't speak of a terrified child. To me this boggart symbolizes something to me, it symbolizes Neville's fear of not being magical enough. It is known that Neville isn't good at potions (wether or not it's because of his fear of Snape, who is intimidating or it's because Snape singles Neville out) Neville is terrible at potions and Snape makes that known constantly. We also know that Neville has been constantly compared to his father, a war victim and I guess you could call him a hero. Neville practically considered himself a squib. So Snape, and Neville's grandmother, they symbolize the fact that Neville isn't magically powerful enough, Neville's fear of not being good enough/a squib.

Also this was written at 4 am so if you ain't getting something, lmk

I've been itching for awhile to argue with a Tik Tok Snater 👀. I've finally got one so let's goooo.

First of all, James didn't slay, he never did. He was canonically a bully, no matter who they're bullying it's still wrong. Second of all the whole "what sa" or "it wasn't sa" is so wrong. Because it is, it is sa. Saying it wasn't or blaming it on Snape is horrible. I'm not even going to go down the road of the victim blaming that goes on here.

"walking on a corpse to hug a dead girl he was obsessed with"

Girl- calm down. First of all that's movie canon not book canon. Even if it was book canon do you really think Snape would have stepped on James's body, stepped on him?! Like do y'all hear yourself. The man would probably slip and fall on the stairs if he had stepped on him 😂.

Two abuse arguments. It wasn't abuse. Snape never abused the kids. He was a verbal man who taught a very deadly subject and students didn't pay attention, didn't care, and were careless. He's going to yell and get angry because a potion could blow up and explode in their faces. Sure he could have been kinder then he was but he wasn't so, cry about it bitch.

"what about Neville"

What about him? Don't get me wrong I love him but he was a clumsy kid, sure Snape didn't make it any better being the scary bat he was but, again, cry about it.

"trauma will not explain his actions"

Majority of Snape and who he is was formed from trauma so yes it will explain his actions and who he is and what he's done. His trauma shaped his life. From the first time his dad raised his hand to him, to the last time James Potter sent a unprovoked hex at him. Not to mention all the obvious emotional manipulation Dumbledore used with him.

His entire life was traumatic.

No trauma does not excuse him from his shitty actions but it does explain it, and you'd be stupid to think otherwise. Oh but I forgot, most James Potter stans are stupid.

Canon literally says otherwise to what you're saying so 🤷🏻‍♀️ go touch some grass or watch paint dry, I don't know what to tell you man.

Also I'm pretty woke, you don't seem to be.

Pleaseee I laughed so hard at this argument like ma'am you're not even trying anymore.

"At least James Potter had friends"

One of his friends betrayed him to Voldemort who ended up killing him, his wife, trying to kill his child and ended up leaving said child as an orphan.

The other attempted murder at the age of 15-16, went after another friend in revenge instead of taking care of his godson. Never felt remorse for anything he did as a student. Claimed an unprovoked attack and attempted murder were deserved.

The other friend put children in danger by not taking his potion, showed negligence already for not taking it/taking his affliction seriously. Was a bystander and despite being in a position of authority never stopped his friends from unprovoked attacks. Also downplayed what happened in attempt to make a dead man look better.

Yeah I think I'd prefer to have no friends idk about you.

"without James there'd be no Harry Potter"

First of all then Lily could have had a kid with someone else or Voldemort would have went for Neville instead, a different prophecy would have been made. There are so many other things that could have happened.

"the only Slytherin hero was Regulus Black"

Uhm, Regulus did nothing, like literally all he did was steal a locket. He had an obsession with Voldemort and was a staunch supporter of him as well as a blood supremacist. As well most likely one of his most youngest marked Death Eater (not counting Draco here).

Regulus could have told anyone about the horcrux but he didn't. He could have told Kreacher to take him back with him after getting the horcrux but he didn't. He defected and took the cowards way out.

Classic trauma comparison. *Sighs* these antis are so repetitive like common give me something new to talk shit about.

"Regulus has gone through more trauma then Snape"

Actually from what we know about canon, no. Snape was physically abused and neglected. His father was a drunk who canoncially physically abused him, verbally abused his mother, he was neglected as well (that being just because his family was poor is also a possibility). Also he was tormented for seven years by four boys (mostly two of them) just because he existed.

I'm not saying Regulus doesn't have trauma, we just know that the only canonical trauma he probably has is from watching his brother being abused. He most likely was as well.

"Stfu next time and hide in your fake world where snape was a hero. and ofc cry abt it"

I'm never going to shut up about Snape 😘. My world isn't fake, canon isn't fake. Snape was a hero, it's literally in canon. Oh no don't call me out on crying 😱, the world is going to end now.

No cuz this had me laughing hysterically. You know you've won when they start to throw insults at you instead of trying to argue with actual points.

This is only part one, part two will be in the reblog cuz tumblr only allows ten photos 😭.

[adh-james-version]

you're argument is so fucking stupid because a) nobody who understands the characters and ships jily is pro-snape. Snape is as disgusting as regulus and actual intelligent people know that and b) the marauders fandom is not by nature anti-canon or whatever the fuck you said. it is derived from canon and has been thriving since PoA came out. and no, not everyone ships wolfstar and in fact tonnes of people don't because it's NOT CANON. and the new fans who clearly haven't even read the books and dont understand the characters at all are shitting all over remus and sirius routinely with atrocious, disgusting characterisations like the one in atyd.

you new fans are ruining the fandom by turning beloved characters (the ACTUAL marauders and Lily - not the fascists you freaks simp for) into pathetic OCs.

if you don't like this canon get the fuck out of this fandom and find a different one to ruin. james potter would never date a blood supremacist and youre a fucking idiot for acting like he would

Okay so first things first , if your gonna be such a horrible person be brave enough to say it with your chest 😂😂 posting its as anonymous is embarrassing and shows that you have no dignity😂😂 at least I spoke my opinions without shame😘😘

Two, you are proving my point of people taking it too serious 😂😂

Three, I have read the books, multiple times as have most of the fandom, and I have said before that I believe that not reading the books and then hoping into the fandom is weird, so let’s not be ignorant, if ur gonna come for me do your research babygirl😘😘

Four, I said in my post that people hating on other people’s head canons is messed up, thank you for proving my point once again love 😘😘😘

Five, there is no such thing as ruining the fandom which again I said in my og post once again do your research 🫶🏾🫶🏾🫶🏾

Six, you are also furthering my point by hating on characterization 🫶🏾😍

Seven, the new fans are evolving the fandom, which i said, in my previous post (starting to wonder if your reading comprehension is up to par🧐)

Eight, I’m not gonna argue abt hcs w a person who has such strong hateful opinions. Invest in therapy💋

And lastly don’t play with me, calling me a “fucking idiot” just shows your lack of vocabulary and your ignorance so if you want to have a civilized conversation my inbox is always open if you want to try again.

Have a good day🫶🏾🫶🏾

[maruke2003]

I posted 1,154 times in 2022

That's 1,153 more posts than 2021!

173 posts created (15%)

981 posts reblogged (85%)

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I tagged 329 of my posts in 2022

#severus snape - 121 posts

#pro snape - 88 posts

#harry potter - 55 posts

#elloona - 39 posts

#anti james potter - 38 posts

#anon ask - 33 posts

#anti marauders - 30 posts

#snape - 30 posts

#severitus - 28 posts

#the elloona fam - 25 posts

Longest Tag: 125 characters

#smh you're probably some old ass man in his mothers basement telling teen girls to kill themselves because you can't get laid

My Top Posts in 2022:

#5

Ugh something that infuriates me about the marauder stans is when they say Harry should have named his second son 'Remus Regulus' or 'Rubeus Remus' or 'Regulus Remus'.

Do they not realize that Harry named his children after the people who have impacted his life in some way or another.

James Sirius- James, whom he's been compared to his entire life. Both the good and the bad. Harry's patronus takes his father's animagus form. And Sirius his Godfather who tried his hardest to be there for Harry despite his own shortcomings and short time together. He did everything for Harry (except when he ran after Peter instead of dealing with Harry but that's a different story).

Albus Severus- Albus after Dumbledore. Dumbledore (despite all the headcanons out there) who care for Harry and was sort of like a father/grandfather figure in his life. Severus after Snape. Snape who literally saved Harry's life more then we all probably realize, who used his last dying breath to give Harry the last piece of information to finish the war. (He quiet literally stopped trying to stop the blood flow once he saw Harry). On top of that remained in a spying position for 17 years. Snape also was childhood friends with his mother.

Lily Luna- Lily after Harry's mother of course. Luna isn't actually in her name to be named after Luna Lovegood. Luna means moon (in some language I don't remember and am too lazy currently to google) so Luna is essentially named for Remus.

147 notes - Posted August 11, 2022

#4

I've been itching for awhile to argue with a Tik Tok Snater 👀. I've finally got one so let's goooo.

First of all, James didn't slay, he never did. He was canonically a bully, no matter who they're bullying it's still wrong. Second of all the whole "what sa" or "it wasn't sa" is so wrong. Because it is, it is sa. Saying it wasn't or blaming it on Snape is horrible. I'm not even going to go down the road of the victim blaming that goes on here.

"walking on a corpse to hug a dead girl he was obsessed with"

Girl- calm down. First of all that's movie canon not book canon. Even if it was book canon do you really think Snape would have stepped on James's body, stepped on him?! Like do y'all hear yourself. The man would probably slip and fall on the stairs if he had stepped on him 😂.

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155 notes - Posted August 25, 2022

#3

What are your thoughts on the fact that marauders stans are essentially taking all of Snape’s character traits and shoving them into Regulus

I love this question 👀.

Honestly it's not even the only character they've done it for.

They've taken Snape's spy position and given it to Regulus

They've taken his abuse and neglect story and given it to Sirius. (Not saying Sirius wasn't abused, he was, they just like to take Snape's story and give it to Sirius as if it's his when he himself already has an abusive childhood)

They've taken The Half Blood Prince's book and claimed it was James'

It's stupid. It's delusional. Like you claim you don't like a character and list all their faults and then give it to other characters.

They claim Snape was still a Death Eater/blood supremacist despite defecting because of Lily. He remained in a position to spy on the dark side for almost two decades of his life. And in the process he started believing in her cause. They claim it's bullshit and call him a Neo Nazi or a Wizard Nazi.

But then.

Then they turn around and say Regulus who defected for his house elf, who was a known blood supremacist, who was obsessed with Voldemort, is not a Nazi. "Regulus black was an abused boy who joined the death eaters to take him down from the inside. He was never a blood supremacist. He was in love with James Potter and was friends with all the marauders"... Like girl no.

They also claim that if Regulus was the spy and not Snape and that Regulus taught potions and was head of house he would have been nice to the students, including Harry and Neville and Hermione. No. Snape wasn't nice because the remaining death eaters wouldn't like to hear Snape playing daddy figure to the boy who lived. Or the child to both a known light family and the boy who could have been the chosen one. As well Hermione a muggleborn, need I say more? He couldn't have been nice because of his position. He would have lost it.

Don't even get me started on the whole "James is the Halfblood Prince thing" anyways I've gotten off topic.

Marauder fans/stans know Snape is amazing and badass but because he doesn't fit into their "hot/attractive" ideology he isn't worth it. So they take his entire life, his personality, his accomplishments and give it to his tormentors (not Regulus).

My final opinion is that it's far fetched and ridiculous. Regulus Black decided to defect in a single moment and when he did he died. If Voldemort hadn't used his house elf to plant his horcrux he wouldn't have known any better and nothing would have changed for him.

162 notes - Posted August 9, 2022

#2

I'm on Pinterest doing a thing with Seph (@halfblood-princes-crown) and found this and I'm wheezing 😭😭😂😂

Apparently this art belongs to @waterlouper so credit to them (if I'm wrong let me know)

314 notes - Posted August 16, 2022

My #1 post of 2022

James Potter didn't "change" he didn't stop bullying Severus Snape. He just graduated and supposedly never saw him again.

617 notes - Posted October 26, 2022

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