#Pokémon 4ever

[phlurrii]

somehow the cage made me think of the ball used on celebi in 4ever(?) but I knew that wasn't quite right

2000 was probably the only oldie movie I didn't manage to watch

I love that a bunch of people immediately caught on the cage ball was from a Pokémon movie, the useless knowledge is strong in this fandom. Though now that you mention it, I can definitely see it!!

But 2000 only came out 2 years before 4ever and was Lugia’s premier too! Initially Lugia was suppose to be a movie exclusive, but it was too good so they added it as the second Gen 2 box legend! That’s more widespread knowledge nowadays tho, I just think it’s neat ;3

[katlimeart]

Made in 2017 + 2020

If you’ve seen this anywhere else, I posted it back on my deviantArt when it was made.

Mario girls cosplaying as characters from the Pokemon anime

1 + 2. Harriet

3. Amber

4. Annie

5. Calista

6. Diana

7. Eliza

8. Forsythia

9. Freesia

10. Giselle

[pkmnprideflags]

So I accidentally went down a rabbit hole and am now really bothered by the question: when was Celebi's design finalized?

In the SpaceWorld '99 demo (August 17, 1999) Celebi has an almost unrecognizable design:

We know from interviews that Hironobu Yoshida was hired to design several random Pokémon that still needed fixing, including Celebi. We have builds from September 29, September 30, and October 6, but I never see anyone talking about them, and I have neither the technology nor the computer knowledge to delve into them myself. I'd love to know if Celebi has its final design by those builds, or if it took even longer.

Celebi's final GSC design (made by November 1999) is a little different from the design we know now, though:

(In order: official art of Celebi by Ken Sugimori, made sometime around the release of Gold & Silver; Celebi's front sprite from Silver & Crystal; and Celebi's current official Sugimori art, which I can't find an exact creation date for.)

Original!Celebi has some very different shades of green going on, and its arms have a different shape. I understand how this old design became known on this website as "the onion fairy." But its sprites give it a much more vibrant green color. Sometime later, its design goes back to the muted tones, but uses much darker shades, so its face and arms no longer look white. The "bump" on its arms is also lessened a bit, making them look more human-ish.

I'm unsure when these changes were put into place, exactly. This Sugimori art made for Crystal in 2000 has the OG colors & arm shapes, so the changes weren't immediate. But by the fourth movie (released July 2001, definitely animated well before that), Celebi's palette has shifted to something almost exactly like its current design:

Its face/body tone is still a bit brighter than what we know now, but it's the right hue, and its arm shape has been adjusted quite a lot.

So, I just wonder: were these changes made by Sugimori himself after the release of Crystal? Or did the anime team make these choices, and the game designers just adapted? I don't know, I'm not a poké-historian. Celebi isn't unique in this regard; a lot of Pokémon have changed designs subtly over the years, sometimes because of the anime. I'm just curious in Celebi's case because it's such a sought-after Pokémon.

[xtarmie]

[front-facing-pokemon]

[angeloftheodd]

I watched Pokémon 4Ever with Catnip (thelazyboyfriend on TikTok) as Kuromi and My Melody. 😸💚 Pixel joined us in the beginning. 😻💖

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[theanontrain]

"What a nice lad, it's too bad we never see Sammy again like all the other Pokemon anime characters. Ever. Oh well."

[arabian-batboy]

Rewatching old Pokémon movies and I came to this conclusion:

[teresiel]

Scenery from Pokémon 4Ever: Celebi - Voice of the Forest (2001,2002)

[marinecorvid]

The problem, generally speaking, with having been a paranoid squirrelly little fuck of a kid means when you remember something exists and want to find it, you have to try to remember all fifteen thousand hidey spots in your childhood bedroom, and then wrack your brain trying to remember MORE when what you’re looking for doesn’t turn up in any of the expected locations

[thegengarprincess]

the Bojure Saint has summoned thee 👾💜

it's all coming together

[bens-things]

Pokémon 4Ever (2001) dir. Kunihiko Yuyama

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Lizzie Watches Anipoke, Special Edition - "Celebi: The Voice of the Forest"

We've moved to the first Pokémon movie not written by Takeshi Shudo, and I can tell the difference. Not necessarily in a bad way; I liked this movie a lot, actually. But this movie is creatively different than the earlier ones. As an artist, Shudo is drawn to telling broad stories about nature in the movies. Despite what Revelation Lugia's English dub title would have you believe, Shudo's three Pokémovies all are less focused on Ash and co. and more on showing off the grand powers of Pokémon. Though this film still features Celebi and Suicune doing epic feats, it is comparatively far more invested in Ash, Sam, and its other human characters. This has both its strengths and its weaknesses; Ash is a far more active agent in this movie than he is in some others, but that is at the price of focusing less on Celebi and Suicune.

Ash and Sam's friendship was really cute, which made me have a kneejerk reaction to ship them, but then I remembered that I've seen this movie before and remembering the twist made me have an Apollo Justice Shipping Moment

Also, can we talk about the implications of this movie on literally the entire anime. Did Oak intentionally save a Pikachu for Ash to obtain when he turned 10 because he knew that Ash had to have one. Did he freak out when Delia had a son and announced his name. Rewatching the first episodes of the anime with this in mind will make you speculate like a madperson

Y'know, for the first 50 minutes of the movie, I really appreciated that it only used CG for the backgrounds and effects, rather than like the Unown in the third movie. I liked that they kept all of the main characters in 2D so we could appreciate their expressions better. And then Celebi made its 3D twig monster thing and I took back all of the above bc that thing looked horrendous

I liked that Team Rocket got a happy ending this time. They were just vibing in a magic lake together after a long day. Honestly friendship goals

I also think it's funny in a macabre way that the movie never clarifies what happened to the Marauder. Like, the implication is probably that after he got tied up he was turned in to the police, but like. We don't know that. What if the Pokémon beat his ass. What if the boat guy who was cracking his knuckles helped. What if Towa and Diana helped

EDIT: something I just remembered that was bothering me - why doesn't Ash recognize Suicune from when he saw it upon first arriving in Johto? I assumed that encointer was gonna come back later so I've been paying attention for signs of Suicune, and now Ash just doesn't remember it? This mfer can remember when he saw Ho-Oh 200 episodes ago but can't remember Suicune

Also I swear to God if this anime never brings back the Ho-Oh thing I am going to fight someone. Either it better appear during his time in Johto or like, his departure episode better feature him encountering it again or something, idk. If Ho-Oh turns out to be another GS Ball then I will flip

Overall, definitely a weird movie and a turning point for cinematic Pokémon. I think I prefer Shudo's style of screenplay just for the sheer sense of scale it gives, but I still liked this one more than The Power of One. A canon-changing but solid entry into the Pokémon franchise.

[queer-ragnelle]

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