#Pokémon 4ever

[flightyquinn]

Samuel Oak, in his head: "Finally...I finally get to pay you back, Old Friend."

I get a lot of feelings from these scenes!  

[phlurrii]

somehow the cage made me think of the ball used on celebi in 4ever(?) but I knew that wasn't quite right

2000 was probably the only oldie movie I didn't manage to watch

I love that a bunch of people immediately caught on the cage ball was from a Pokémon movie, the useless knowledge is strong in this fandom. Though now that you mention it, I can definitely see it!!

But 2000 only came out 2 years before 4ever and was Lugia’s premier too! Initially Lugia was suppose to be a movie exclusive, but it was too good so they added it as the second Gen 2 box legend! That’s more widespread knowledge nowadays tho, I just think it’s neat ;3

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So I accidentally went down a rabbit hole and am now really bothered by the question: when was Celebi's design finalized?

In the SpaceWorld '99 demo (August 17, 1999) Celebi has an almost unrecognizable design:

We know from interviews that Hironobu Yoshida was hired to design several random Pokémon that still needed fixing, including Celebi. We have builds from September 29, September 30, and October 6, but I never see anyone talking about them, and I have neither the technology nor the computer knowledge to delve into them myself. I'd love to know if Celebi has its final design by those builds, or if it took even longer.

Celebi's final GSC design (made by November 1999) is a little different from the design we know now, though:

(In order: official art of Celebi by Ken Sugimori, made sometime around the release of Gold & Silver; Celebi's front sprite from Silver & Crystal; and Celebi's current official Sugimori art, which I can't find an exact creation date for.)

Original!Celebi has some very different shades of green going on, and its arms have a different shape. I understand how this old design became known on this website as "the onion fairy." But its sprites give it a much more vibrant green color. Sometime later, its design goes back to the muted tones, but uses much darker shades, so its face and arms no longer look white. The "bump" on its arms is also lessened a bit, making them look more human-ish.

I'm unsure when these changes were put into place, exactly. This Sugimori art made for Crystal in 2000 has the OG colors & arm shapes, so the changes weren't immediate. But by the fourth movie (released July 2001, definitely animated well before that), Celebi's palette has shifted to something almost exactly like its current design:

Its face/body tone is still a bit brighter than what we know now, but it's the right hue, and its arm shape has been adjusted quite a lot.

So, I just wonder: were these changes made by Sugimori himself after the release of Crystal? Or did the anime team make these choices, and the game designers just adapted? I don't know, I'm not a poké-historian. Celebi isn't unique in this regard; a lot of Pokémon have changed designs subtly over the years, sometimes because of the anime. I'm just curious in Celebi's case because it's such a sought-after Pokémon.

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[angeloftheodd]

I watched Pokémon 4Ever with Catnip (thelazyboyfriend on TikTok) as Kuromi and My Melody. 😸💚 Pixel joined us in the beginning. 😻💖

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[theanontrain]

"What a nice lad, it's too bad we never see Sammy again like all the other Pokemon anime characters. Ever. Oh well."

[arabian-batboy]

Rewatching old Pokémon movies and I came to this conclusion:

[marinecorvid]

The problem, generally speaking, with having been a paranoid squirrelly little fuck of a kid means when you remember something exists and want to find it, you have to try to remember all fifteen thousand hidey spots in your childhood bedroom, and then wrack your brain trying to remember MORE when what you’re looking for doesn’t turn up in any of the expected locations

[queer-ragnelle]

The Battle of the Trees by Taliesin | The Two Towers (2002) | The Two Towers by JRR Tolkien | The Green Knight (2021) | The Cure | Les Savy Fav | The Last Unicorn (1982) | Pocahontas (1995) | The Two Towers by JRR Tolkien | Magic the Gathering | Pokémon | The Adventures of Tom Bombadil by JRR Tolkien | The Giving Tree by Shel Silverstein | The Wizard of Oz (1939) | Ocarina of Time | Breath of the Wild 2 | Wikipedia | King Arthur: Legend of the Sword (2017) | Fantasia 2000 (1999) | The Bright Sword by Lev Grossman | Guardians of the Galaxy (2014) | Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 2 (2017) | Pokémon 4Ever (2001) | Yvain Knight with The Lion by John Howe | The Giving Tree by Shel Silverstein

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[thequantumranger]

Pokémon 4Ever (2001)

[nerdgatehobbit]

I was tagged by @old-man-ghost thank you!

Between me not having gifs to post and that recent post I reblogged on physical media, I’m going to do something barely within the letters but hopefully within the spirit of the tag game. The original game is posting gifs from your favorite movies without labeling them. I’m going to do a sentence or two per movie mostly so this post isn’t just this paragraph & a photo.

Beauty and the Beast (1991): This one should not be a surprise at all. <3

(If BATB 2022 had gotten a physical release it’d be here as well)

The Librarian trilogy: Are they good movies? Not really, but they feature my blorbo Flynn Carsen and without them the show wouldn’t exist. Well, excitingly there’ll be another sequel show soon.

4 Pokémon movies: I enjoy all four of these movies, although probably my favorite is 4Ever.

Muppet Treasure Island: So quotable and funny, I’ve loved this movie for a long time.

Robin Hood (1973): Another long-time favorite, I do enjoy the music & characters.

George of the Jungle: Quite possibly the funniest movie I’ve ever seen, to the point even explaining a joke becomes hilarious. It also has a lot of heart & thought put into it. Please note that nostalgia is probably a factor here along with most of these choices.

The Court Jester: Another excellent comedic film with heart. It is fun to see Glynis Johns & Angela Lansbury as the main female characters.

Rodgers & Hammerstein’s Cinderella: I enjoy all three versions I’ve seen (1957, 1965, & 1997) although my favorite is 1997 in part because I saw it first as a kid. Frankly, I think we should get a fourth movie based off of it if the movie industry is doing all these remakes anyway.

Love & Friendship: A very amusing adaptation of Lady Susan; it’s more biting than the usual Austen adaptation I think. While I definitely enjoyed Sense & Sensibility (2024), I think I need a bit longer than a month (edit) to determine if it’s a favorite.

Spirit Stallion of the Cimarron: I love the original movie and have done so since I first saw it- which likely was within a year or so of its release. Its soundtrack, animation, story, and characters are all awesome. While I’ve gathered the recent cartoons go against the original movie’s message, I’ll be honest that didn’t stop me from getting my own little Spirit plushie.

Bridges Live: So what happened is that I got this back in January 2023, having adored BATB 2022 and spotting that Idina Menzel (Elsa!) is involved both on the CD and the concert DVD. It was such a good time that things spiraled from there regarding me obtaining Josh Groban content. I still need to watch them in Chess in Concert though.

Tagging @asokatanos @magic-owl @ladytharen @mylittleredgirl @hopecomesbacktolife @kiashyel @jadelotusflower @captains-clever-goose @ladyofthelake @fantasysci5 and anyone else who’d like to participate! (Feel free to do the gifs instead of my non-standard format)

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Lizzie Watches Anipoke, Special Edition - "Celebi: The Voice of the Forest"

We've moved to the first Pokémon movie not written by Takeshi Shudo, and I can tell the difference. Not necessarily in a bad way; I liked this movie a lot, actually. But this movie is creatively different than the earlier ones. As an artist, Shudo is drawn to telling broad stories about nature in the movies. Despite what Revelation Lugia's English dub title would have you believe, Shudo's three Pokémovies all are less focused on Ash and co. and more on showing off the grand powers of Pokémon. Though this film still features Celebi and Suicune doing epic feats, it is comparatively far more invested in Ash, Sam, and its other human characters. This has both its strengths and its weaknesses; Ash is a far more active agent in this movie than he is in some others, but that is at the price of focusing less on Celebi and Suicune.

Ash and Sam's friendship was really cute, which made me have a kneejerk reaction to ship them, but then I remembered that I've seen this movie before and remembering the twist made me have an Apollo Justice Shipping Moment

Also, can we talk about the implications of this movie on literally the entire anime. Did Oak intentionally save a Pikachu for Ash to obtain when he turned 10 because he knew that Ash had to have one. Did he freak out when Delia had a son and announced his name. Rewatching the first episodes of the anime with this in mind will make you speculate like a madperson

Y'know, for the first 50 minutes of the movie, I really appreciated that it only used CG for the backgrounds and effects, rather than like the Unown in the third movie. I liked that they kept all of the main characters in 2D so we could appreciate their expressions better. And then Celebi made its 3D twig monster thing and I took back all of the above bc that thing looked horrendous

I liked that Team Rocket got a happy ending this time. They were just vibing in a magic lake together after a long day. Honestly friendship goals

I also think it's funny in a macabre way that the movie never clarifies what happened to the Marauder. Like, the implication is probably that after he got tied up he was turned in to the police, but like. We don't know that. What if the Pokémon beat his ass. What if the boat guy who was cracking his knuckles helped. What if Towa and Diana helped

EDIT: something I just remembered that was bothering me - why doesn't Ash recognize Suicune from when he saw it upon first arriving in Johto? I assumed that encointer was gonna come back later so I've been paying attention for signs of Suicune, and now Ash just doesn't remember it? This mfer can remember when he saw Ho-Oh 200 episodes ago but can't remember Suicune

Also I swear to God if this anime never brings back the Ho-Oh thing I am going to fight someone. Either it better appear during his time in Johto or like, his departure episode better feature him encountering it again or something, idk. If Ho-Oh turns out to be another GS Ball then I will flip

Overall, definitely a weird movie and a turning point for cinematic Pokémon. I think I prefer Shudo's style of screenplay just for the sheer sense of scale it gives, but I still liked this one more than The Power of One. A canon-changing but solid entry into the Pokémon franchise.

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