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Team Rose but with Gamma instead of Big
#Would it be wild if I made Gamma the speed type and Amy the power type?#Itâd be funny#I havenât played as gamma in adventure yet nor have I gotten far in Team Roseâs story in Heroes#my 2 wip games#but I might actually do this for my AU and put it before adventure 2 so Omega debuts in SHTH.#idk tho#I wanna#My art#art#my AU#cream the rabbit#sonic the hedgehog#sonic#e 102 gamma#Amy rose
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What Is the Appeal of Sonadow?
I have a lot of thoughts about this ship, what draws people to it, and why some of the criticisms of it are exaggerated or less than honest. Putting them under a cut because itâs gonna get long.
First of all, the critique of âLol why do people ship them when they beat the shit out of each other whenever they disagree on something, theyâre abusive!â is dishonest framing for two reasons. One is that it ignores the fact that Sonic and Shadow are allies far more often than theyâre enemies, and even when they are enemies, itâs usually over something serious, not just a minor disagreement. The other is that itâs bad media criticism to apply real human standards to a cartoon animal universe.
When you watch the classic Looney Tunes short where Bugs and Daffy are arguing over whether itâs Rabbit Season or Duck Season and Bugs tricks Daffy into shooting himself, do you see Bugs as abusive and evil? Probably not, because the laws of physics donât apply in cartoons and Daffy getting shot in the face doesnât actually hurt him. Heâs still completely fine afterwards because heâs a cartoon and is therefore invincible. The same is true for Sonic and Shadow. Have you ever seen either of them seriously injured after one of their fights? Has either one ever needed to go to the hospital because the other beat him up so badly? No, of course not. They groan in pain for about two seconds and then theyâre fine. If the creators wanted to convey them being injured, they could show bruises or blood or have bones snapping and the characters limping, but they donât. The fights are never meant to be taken that seriously. I find this criticism every bit as annoying and overzealous as people who insist that Pinky and the Brain are abusive because Brain bops Pinky on the head. Theyâre cartoons, yâall. Theyâre not realistic, were never meant to be realistic, and shouldnât be treated as realistic. Different standards apply.
To the second point, Sonic and Shadow donât actually fight that often. In all the interactions theyâve had together, itâs only been a handful of times. Theyâre allies in the Archie comics, Sonic â06, the canon ending of Shadow the Hedgehog (theyâre only enemies in that game if the player wants them to be), Sonic Forces, Team Sonic Racing, The Murder of Sonic the Hedgehog, and most of the IDW comics, along with the endings of Sonic X, Sonic Adventure 2, and Sonic Heroes. Theyâre allies for much of Prime as well. But hey, letâs break down the times they do fight:
Sonic Adventure 2: Shadowâs memories have been tampered with and he and Sonic are literally fighting over the fate of the world.
Sonic X: Same thing for season 2, and in season 3, theyâre fighting over whether Cosmo should live or die. Sonic says killing her is wrong, Shadow says stopping the Metarex is whatâs most important and if that means little Cosmo has to die, well, themâs the breaks, pal.
Sonic Prime: Sonic has broken their world, Shadow is trying desperately to save it, and Sonic is valuing the Shatterverse inhabitants over Green Hill.
IDW: Shadow says Eggman is too dangerous to leave alive and if that means Mr. Tinker has to die too, well, themâs the breaks, pal. Sonic says killing anyone is wrong no matter the reason.
You see a pattern here? Most of the time what they fight over is literally life and death. Theyâre not going at each otherâs throats over petty bullshit like who gets the last slice of pizza or who gets to pick the film for Movie Night. They fight over serious moral differences. I would argue that Amy and Knuckles have gotten angry at Sonic for way less than what Shadow does.
Now, there are a few instances where their fights are stupid, namely Sonic Boom and Sonic Heroes. But I think itâs pretty universally agreed that Shadow is out of character in Boom, and honestly, all of the fights in Sonic Heroes are very forced. There was no reason for Team Dark or Team Rose to fight Team Chaotix; their goals donât contradict each other in any way and itâs clearly just manufactured conflict to give the player another boss fight. And these are the exception; most of their fights are over serious ideological divides.
Those serious ideological divides are exactly what makes Sonadow so interesting. I personally prefer ships where characters can learn and grow from each other, where their differences can clash until they learn to reconcile them. I donât find a ship like, say, Sonamy nearly as interesting because I donât think thereâs many (if any) moral stances Sonic would have that Amy wouldnât. They already agree on the important things. Iâm not bashing anyone who likes that ship; if thatâs your thing, good for you. It just doesnât appeal to me because I think Sonic and Amy already having a lot in common morally means they canât really grow and change from interacting with each other in the same way.
Sonic can bring out the best in Shadow, teach him to trust others and lighten up and learn how to live in the moment rather than being tethered to the past. Shadow can teach Sonic how to think before he acts, to view the world more realistically, and to consider the impact that his insistence on moral purity will have on others. That setup makes for some amazing stories.
Also? These guys love fighting each other. Theyâre both athletes and very competitive. Look at how much they smile when they fight:
LikeâŚthey love this. Itâs so much fun for them. Sonic and Shadow are both competitive athletes who love pushing themselves, but in terms of speed, no one is any competition for them except each other. No one else can beat either of them in a race. Imagine spending your whole life winning so easily that there was no accomplishment in it, and then suddenly this guy comes along whoâs actually as good as you or maybe even better. Finally you have a challenge and can really enjoy the feeling of being the best. Thatâd be amazing. They give each other something no one else can, and to me, thatâs what good romances are made of.
And all of that is combined with the fact that Sonadow offers an Odd Couple setup, which is always fertile ground for fun, comedic situations that require opposite characters to work together. Plus the Enemies/Rivals to Lovers aspect, which adds a bit of âforbidden fruitâ to the mix because we all know that the most tempting and appealing relationships are the ones that are Forbidden (TM). Thatâs literally the premise of Romeo and Juliet, people who arenât supposed to be together but end up wanting to be anyway.
I wouldnât want Sonadow to be canon, but I definitely enjoy exploring it in fandom. Itâs a fun ship that offers a lot for a writer or artist to work with. And while I would never force it on anyone, I wish the criticisms of it werenât quite so shallow and disingenuous.
#itâs possible I missed a few bits because I havenât played all the games#if so Iâm sorry#itâs just not financially feasible to play all of them ya know#sonadow#sonic the hegehog#shadow the hedgehog#sonic prime#sa2#sa2b#sonic games#shipping dynamics#sonic heroes
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i think one of my favorite thing about tails fans is, when asked about who their favorite character is, the general answer is:
âi love sonic, but i sold my soul to tails when i was 5 and heâs been my favorite ever sinceâ
this isnât a diss on anyone btw, that is also my story
#graveyardtxt#i was watching a friend of mine play sonic heroes when i was like 8#i saw tails and decided that he was my favorite character to ever exist in the history of fiction#my opinion hasnât changed#miles tails prower
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i barely know charmy bee but if you hate charmy bee we can't be friends
#/jokey#yes the sonic the hedgehog character#hes just a little boy. hes so cutes#context hwre being im deawing my favorite dr characters as my favorite sonic characters bc its been on my mind for months now#i saw wayneradiotv play sonic adventure 2 and i saw team chaotix and went 'i like those ones :]' i barely know them#but what do you mean people hate charmy. whats your problem#sonic the hedgehog#words from the monarch#NOT sonic adventure 2 i meant sonic heroes. sorry
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after the events of sonic heroes
rouge: you settling in okay, shadow?
shadow: last week maria and I started reading a new book together. gerald got it for her as a gift, because she was doing well in her studies
rouge:
shadow: and now I'm here.
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Apparently someone actually reached out to Johnny Gioeli and he straight up confirmed that "I am all of me" will not in Sonic Movie 3.
That's right, it was confirmed by the man himself. There was some fan outrage as you might expect. But if you think about it, despite "I Am All of Me" being the most popular Shadow theme, it doesn't make much sense in the context of Shadow's arc in SA2 (the game this movie is adapting).
That song is about Shadow's potential both for good and evil, which reflects the 2005 game's multiple routes. It doesn't work if used in a story where Shadow is a straight up antagonist for most of his screentime. References need to make sense narratively.
#this goes double for All Hail Shadow#the song straight calls him a hero#it's like if Sonic 2 played Uknown By ME while Knuckles was trying to kill Sonic#I wouldn't expect anything beyond Live and Learn#sonic movie#sonic movie 3#sonic 3
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real scene from breaking bad
#jesse pinkman the sonic fan that you are.... LOVE YOU.....#when he's playing sonic heroes with brock WAHHHHH#retrospective ânostalgic portrayals of the 2000s couldnt do it#also jesse and jane r so shadow and maria when u think abt it đ#deliberately chose this pic for the tv bc THE PARALELLS THE LITERAL PARALELLLLSSSSSS#the divide between the jesse/shadow side and jane/maria side đ youch#breaking bad#brba#shadow the hedgehog#maria robotnik#sonic 3#jesse pinkman#jane margolis#aaron paul#krysten ritter#keanu reeves#alyla browne#sonic the hedgehog#sonic movie 3#jesse and jane#shadow and maria
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He sounds like he didn't practice this, has never even heard the melody he's playing and cried halfway through the session
#my art#art#fanart#doodle#meme#shitpost#sonic the hedgehog#espio the chameleon#espios bad singing has been like my favorite joke about him since I played heroes#which i did at like age 4#also I made this in like 10 minutes enjoy the funny not the art please
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I canât draw animals, so I made him a human instead đââď¸đ¨
(All my Sonic knowledge comes from Snapcubeâs dub, Jehtt, and Sonic X)
#I only played 2 sonic games and didnât finish either#1. sonic heroes#2. and the werewolf one#shonen protagonist vibes fr#sonic#sonic the hedgehog#sonic fanart#sonic the hedghog fanart#sonic au#sonic humanization#sonic human au#fanart#my art#nightbigail
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I randomly said "Chaos energy is the trickster's power" as a throwaway about how unpredictable it is (for Don't Escape), and like⌠it kinda fits?
Ramble ahead
Like, if you look at Sonic, who's brimming with chaos energy, and nothing seems to work with this guy.
I don't think he was supposed to turn into the werehog, I don't think he was supposed to be able to run around cyberspace, I don't think the metal virus is supposed to be able to be burned off, I don't think using chaos control with a fake emerald is normal.
Despite his personality (which varies from version to version) his existence seems to cause chaos. Plans just don't go as expected around him.
Compared to Shadow, who seems to be more about bringing order to the chaos, fitting his "get shit done" personality, making it do whatever he wants. Which makes sense as The Ultimate Lifeform I guess
But maybe Sonic can also be The Ultimate Chaos Lifeform or something.
Must be why it's pretty fun to write him as Chaos Theory The Guy from time to time, a true gremlin.
#sonic the hedgehog#sth#sonic#shadow the hedgehog#chaos energy#chaos emeralds#tangentially i guess#this comes into play into An Early Shadow#also kinda Metal Hero#chaos hrt and all that#taroth rambles
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Thoughts on the incident?
#06 stream gaming server immediately getting out of hand#for the uninitiated that arent heavy browsers of the sonic wiki as i have recently come to be:#the sonic wiki like never uses the fucking game titles when talking about stuff that happened across the series#instead they make up these like completely arbitrary ''incident'' names to refer to them#like its not ''during the events of sonic heroes'' it's ''during the neo metal sonic incident''#it's so stupid and infuriating it's like completely inaccessible if you don't already know stuff about a given game#the POINT of a WIKI is to make your information ACCESSIBLE!!!! stop obfuscating it in your dumbass coded terms!!!!#what the fuck is ''the newtrogic high zone incident''!!!! just call it knuckles' chaotix!!!!!! oh my god!!!!#ive PLAYED knuckles chaotix and i don't know what you're talking about!!!!#and they get SO STUPID with the names. fucking sonic R is 'the world grand prix' incident. HAVING RACES IS NOT AN INCIDENT. SHUT UP#one of them [i literally dont even remember the game] is 'the death egg mk II incident' except there is no listed first death egg incident#sonic adventure is 'the chaos incident'â which. 'chaos incident' could refer to practically fucking anything that happens in this series#it goes on and on.#msab#off-art#this isnt the ask i was working on but it was time-relevant and quick and easy to just shit out since it's been a bit
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It wasnât even like a âits no use!â (Silver) itâs like âits no useâŚ.â (Metal sonic)
#I didnât even know he said that#then again I havenât played sonic heros yet#btw that quote was from llewopâs vid Sonic R but Multiplayer#metal sonic#sth#shitpost#fanart#heâs just a little guy#funky robot#give her a break sheâs trying her best lol
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when i first played pokemon conquest i really loved it, but i couldn't help but wish there was more emphasis on the relationships between the different characters. later on i discovered fire emblem awakening and my god, the way it took everything i loved about conquest and dialed character relationships up to an 11 truly captivated me and i haven't been the same since
#fire emblem#fire emblem awakening#fire emblem heroes#pokemon conquest#it's crazy how i probably never would have tried fire emblem if i didn't play pokemon conquest first#i hadn't really branched out in gaming at that time in my life beyond franchises i was already familiar with. like pokemon or sonic or spyro#but then i started getting into pokemon spinoffs and getting into more nintendo stuff in general#the trailers for fe: fates got me intrigued in fe at first#so i looked at awakening as the only other 3DS fe at the time and saw the grid based combat on the back of the case and thought#huh. looks kinda like pokemon conquest.....đ¤đ¤đ¤#bought it immediately.#the gamestop cashier said a lot of people were selling their copies of awakening so surely it must not be popular or fun anymore.#you fool. you absolute buffoon.
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ooh looks like nothing special in particular is gonna happen to my Chao today
Angel's singing, Slow Colin's drawing and Buttery Ken's playing the trumpet, what could happ-
ehh what's this?
What the heck?
WHAT THE SHIT?!
WHAT THE FUCK?!
I- I-
Oh great heavens
Welp I need name suggestions now guys
#sonic the hedgehog#shadow the hedgehog#knuckles the echidna#rouge the bat#chao#sonic adventure 2#dark chao#hero chao#buttery ken#angel#slow colin#fawn plays sa2
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I hope one day we get a mainline sonic game focusing on a side character where sonic gets into trouble and need to be saved
#ramblings#put that boy in the damsel in distress role he's been badass for long enough#forces doesn't count bc he gets saved after like two or three levels and you get to play as him for most of the remainder of the game#tmosth doesn't count either bc it's a spinoff. also he gets better at the end to beat the final boss#i need a game fully focusing on another character where he is not playable at all#idk those titan!sonic doodles i did a really long time ago popped up in my notes again and got me thinking abt a game like that#where sonic is put through The Horrors and needs to fully rely on his friends despite his own status as Main Character and Hero#like shake up the formula a bit. it's a good chance to explore new gameplay styles or revisit older ones#and would make for an interesting narrative. exploring what kind of scenario sonic Can't get himself out of forcing him to rely on others#like titan!sonic. where the end conjures up a titan and traps him in it. basically using him as a puppet against his friends#but that was just a hypothetical ending for frontiers so the rest of the game would've had him be playable#what i want rn is a game where he Isn't the main character y'know#i should be sleeping rn lol
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What's your favorite Sonic game, if you have one?
#og post#ask#anon#real answer: ive only played the classic trilogy + a bit of frontiers#out of those i liked 3&k the most. but if we're counting ones i havent played personally#but have seen playthroughs of#then sa1 probably#i also enjoy the concept of sonic heroes a lot but ive heard the gameplay is really janky lol
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