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alteredphoenix · 4 years

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Phoenix Down (Tentative Title)(BnHA/WoW X-Over)(Hawks-centric)(WIP)

Warning: Spoilers for the latest BnHA manga chapters and Shadowlands abound, but the latter is light and takes place prior to Legion (when the Machine of Death breaks), so no Sylvanas shenanigans here.

A/N: When I started reading BnHA, it was to see how the story unfolded after I dropped it fifteen chapters when it was around 100 or so. I took an interest in the Deku-Bakugou dynamics, and kept going.

Then I met Hawks, and now I’m only reading it for him. He’s the reason why I’m not spamming Warcraft GIFs at the moment.

OTOH, I caught up at the worst possible time with the short hiatus that happened after 277, and while the War Arc is interesting I really just want to see how it caps off and segues into the next arc’s developments. Which means I’ve no choice but to wait for Hawks - or “Birdman Jim” as I like to call him (”Chickenman Stan” is another) - to recover and probably die, without his wings.

So in the meantime, I wanted to write a fic to get my mind off things and with the concept of something that I, as a reader, would want to find interesting and want to read. So I started two, but I’m not a fan of writing fics where the arc is still ongoing and eventually debunks fanon interpretations and predictions so the first one I began - which would’ve involved Hawks surviving but with a newfound fear of fire (because fuck you, Dabi) - is currently shelved. I also don’t like shipping Hawks with Dabi or Endeavor or any of the League of Villains, so that left me with two options: do a Hawks/OC fic (I will admit I have somewhat warmed to the idea, so I have no right to knock on those stories anymore) or a crossover with WoW.

Naturally, I picked the WoW x-over fic where I yeet Keigo’s soul to the Shadowlands and deal with the fallout of the judgment the Kyrian Covenant passes onto him. Because he’s not angsty enough, so let’s make him angst even more!

And then, he wakens, to the toll of a bell fading in the distance.

And then, another, rising in crescendo, resonates in the air, soon falls away.

His vision is blurred beyond recognition. He can’t blink, can’t breathe.

“What’s going on? Where am I?” Keigo wants to say, but the words don’t come out. He looks around, but it’s pointless: everywhere he looks, it’s a sea of swirling, cotton ball blue in an even larger area of star-studded darkness that stretches away from him, into eternity. A bright dot on the horizon that steadily grows the deeper he—swims? flies?--toward it, like the opening intro of a pre-Advent movie.

Keigo looks down at himself, and the blue shifts with him. No hands, no feet, no wings, an amorphous mass.

He shouts. “What—What is this?! What happened to my—?!”

“You are dead, as are we all.”

He turns, as much as he can turn without a body, in the direction of the voice. Part of the mass drifts away from the river of souls and comes up beside him. Within those clouds there is a face—maybe man, maybe woman, maybe both. Staring at it is like watching an analog TV set trying to adjust the screen to stillness with no luck, leaving this person, or an amalgamation of sorts, to regard him with static snow and wavering CCTV scan lines.

“Dead?” Keigo echoes. “No...No, I can’t be. Tokoyami saved me. I remember”— the seismic rocking of the assault outside, the blood spurting from Bubaigawara’s neck as he stumbled out of the room, the smug smile on Dabi’s face as the weight of his secrets settled, Tokoyami vaulting over the railing—”He can fly. I trust him.”

“Yet here you are,” the soul tells him. “Your friend did the best he could. Perhaps you have, too.”

Would he have a mouth, Keigo would open it, and would he have one he would snap it shut and wince. Feel the sting in his heart at Bubaigawara’s smile, his laughter, his tears and the betrayal written in his bloodshot eyes, the power of his Quirk welling up around him as his doubles formed.

—You call yourself a hero?—

Keigo already knows the answer to that.

He’s quiet a long time before he speaks again. “I hope they stopped them,” he says, quiet. “I hope they won and survived.”

“Hope is all you can ask for.”

“Yeah.” A pause. “So. I guess this is it, huh? Looks like we’re on a one-way ticket to Heaven.”

“Maybe.”

“Maybe?”

“We’re going to the Shadowlands.”

“...The Shadowlands?” Keigo muses. “Then I guess we’re going to Hell. Makes sense.” If only he could smile.

The blue cloud is silent. Then, a little timidly, maybe a little fearfully: “I hope not. I’ve heard the stories, from many different cultures. Of ancestral hunting grounds and a paradise bathed in light. I don’t know which one is true and which one is fantasy. But I hope it’s not the Hell I’ve heard the most.”

“Only one way to find out, right?”

“For better or worse, it’s our only recourse.”

The dot has gotten larger, brighter; he, his companion, and everyone among the mass would be rendered blind under different circumstances. Yet blind or not, there’s a warmth—or rather, more of a sensation of warmth—that reaches out to them with invisible hands, and with each soul a finger touches sends a knowing throughout their being.

His friend illuminates, a wink of light at their center that sets what appear to be electric sparks inside them. They sigh and seems to slow down, though they stay by his side at a pace that gives him the impression that they are gliding on a wind only they can feel. “Oh,” they croon. Then, with more emotion: “Oh. How...wonderful. Can you feel it, friend?”

Keigo feels nothing at first, only the emptiness of disembodiment. He wants to say that perhaps the Shadowlands is different for everyone. Perhaps his companion is a candidate for Heaven, a person of good deed and moral character. Perhaps that is why they feel good about their warmth, and this is how the thought circles back to him with sharp, visceral dread. I’ve already felt it before, he wants to tell them. I know where I’m bound for. I’m not a hero. This is what I deserve—

That’s when it touches him, and the universe falls away and spreads before him all at once. It is not the agony of Dabi’s blue fire that devours his wings to skeletal branches or the rough kicks that reduce them to smoking tinder. It is not the coy, cruel titillation of the wind on his face that Tokoyami soars through to deliver him to his death.

No. This warmth is...soft. Gentle. Like the breeze that blows through the cherry blossoms in that April bloom, after the winter frost has long since passed. Like the night, wings outspread and carrying him above Japan’s glittering high rises and traffic-jammed streets. The first taste of coffee that goes down his throat with sweet, sinful pleasure.

It is—

“What is this?” Keigo—Hawks—asks. Everything he sees, feels, hears come back to him, not in a rush but with the incremental trundling of a subway car making that long, sleepy trip down the tunnel before it reemerges onto into the dark. It spreads over him, into him, fills him with the submersion of water without the discomfort of drowning. It is the wind beneath him, and nothing hurts. No flames to consume utterly and completely, no scars to ruin him forever, no war to damn him, no Commission to tell him to turn a blind eye—only the memory of those in the know of the sacrifice he paid in mud and blood would live on, beyond him.

All for the best.

“Peace,” his friend says. “It’s peace.”

“Oh,” he says, and thinks, So that’s what this is.

It is wonderful.

The warmth prods him with quiet insistence.

Hawks welcomes it, embraces it, and flies.

#bnha #bnha hawks #takami keigo #world of warcraft #wow: shadowlands #phoenix down (fic)#fanfiction #mywriting

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shamelesslymkp · 5 years

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all in all, ít probably would feel better rn if my brother and I *hadn't* had a two-hour late-night heart-to-heart impromptu sibling therapy session, I'm now not only offkilter from that but deeply regretting most of the things I told him, he straight up said he worries about me I shouldn't give him *more* to worry about and I *definitely * shouldn't have shared specific details of shit mom's said and done, he didn't need to know that he's got enough of his own mom stuff.

otoh I think we did learn some stuff? so maybe on the whole it was good. but.

[[MORE]]

but apparently my dad like, tries to not be a dick to me and so holds it in until I'm gone and then vents to J and/or mom about my being so touchy/easily distressed /distressed by weird things and J realized too late that was something I not only did not need to know but possibly also needed to NOT know and I'm home now and kinda crying, J says dad's not lying to mom OR me or maybe more like a little to both of us and that was him trying to help but god, I can't handle knowing my dad deliberately lies to me all the time, that he actually does think I'm fucking nuts and too sensitive and fragile to treat with anything but soothing care

I just. just want people to stop lying to me. to stop talking about me behind my back. trying to solve the problem of mkp.

please just. stop. or at least don't let j know, because i may be terrible at identifying lies but he's like, incapable of realizing ahead of time there are truths sometimes people are better off not knowing

and yeah I'm being dramatic and it'll be better in the morning but right now it's just tryin not to think about the way my insides are swirling and collapsing in on themselves, threatening to yank me after

and writing this helped I guess and so did even the crying some but god.

I guess I'm extra glad I don't work tomorrow? ? and that therapy is the day after that.

#just talk to your therapist mkp #i did get his help dying my hair tho and it is again Vibrsnt and Bright #bad brains blogging #maybe she's born with it; maybe it's accidental childhood trauma

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vardasvapors · 7 years

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@berrysphase replied to your post: berrysphase replied to your post: ...

So, perhaps oddly, I agree with your statement about the wholesale stuff as concerns the greater legendarium, but not LOTR? In LOTR, considered within its own boundaries, I come away with the deeply uncomfortable sense that the restoration of Gondor’s kingship, the mystic strength in the true line of Elendil, the high and fading virtues of Numenor (transmitted in the germline), are all unquestioned good.

but in the greater legendarium all these things are complicated and much more nuanced, especially the colonialism issue re Numenor.

eventually there are topics I just can’t think too hard about (especially in-world Valar-related morality questions and the infernal question of Numenor and how far its colonialism is ‘justified’) or it all falls apart and I have to go lie down – I mean, there’s a lot of quicksand

I guess what I am saying is *hands* it would be very illuminating and interesting to hear about one of your lines! because to me they are either not clear, or only clear if I carefully avoid looking at them

OH YEAH THAT IS A REALLY GOOD EXAMPLE. I think that would definitely qualify as a line -- in my opinion, LOTR is undermined as a story if Aragorn’s reign is Actually A Bad Thing, because the alternative-subplot that springs into existence under that reading is....uh....I guess “boring pointlessness tacked onto to a story that’s actually about Frodo etc” is a good way of putting it. But otoh the, like, Actual Lines of Dialogue The Characters Say in support of said Aragorn subplot are also.....what’s a better way of saying ‘irredeemably racist’? So it’s not like just “ignore it! it’s fantasy!” or some shit, but it IS one of those things that for me (though other people might feel totally differently) is much more satisfying to reconcile, rather than wholesale resist or overturn.

Anyway this might be making a mountain out of a molehill-sized solution, but I’m too tired to edit myself down in length so:

(uh.....before the cut....heads up i wrote this at top speed without testing for argumentative rigorousness/accuracy so.....fair warning)

Actually I think this is a much more easily fanwankable problem than some? Mostly because, imo, Aragorn’s character arc and the moral worth of his arc already HAS two alternative justifications right in canon! One is prophetic, and essentially is a 90%-blind prediction of the sequence of events that makes up the plot of LOTR. “either you will become greater than any of your ancestors since Elendil or fall into darkness with all your kin,” says Ivorwen and Elrond and Gandalf. The other is the whole Heir of Isildur renewal of the ~pure bloodline of kings bullshit, which doesn’t lend a single whit to the legitimacy of Aragorn as a person or to the readers opinion of him -- but it matters a lot to the in-universe Dunedain characters of Arnor and Gondor, including Aragorn himself. It’s the whole justification for them ushering him through the loophole and onto the throne. So I’d say, if you want to read Aragorn’s reign and arc as worthwhile - which I do too, because otherwise that subplot of LOTR is a vastly inferior and duller story at best, if not a complete and utter waste of time at worst - one could always go for the idea that the reason it has worth doesn’t need to be the same reason - the True Numenorean King stuff - that the characters of LOTR think it has worth.

Like, the first step is, LOTR’s timespan is so short. REALLY short. Substantively, one could just..pick another 6 month timespan in the legendarium, any 6 month timespan that overlaps a major political shift. or a 120 year timespan too, if you’re thinking Aragorn’s whole reign, in the Silmarillion. in the Akallabeth. in the unfinished tales. LOTR is a blip, time-wise -- it’s a personal story that intersects with the Silm-tier stuff for a brief, if pivotal, skip of time, and incorporates the brief, hindsight-less impressions of the people alive at that moment of time right into the reader’s POV, in a way that the Silm doesn’t do.

So when taking into account how limited the timeline and POV of LOTR characters are, comparatively speaking, I think of Aragorn’s crowning and the restoration of the line as not “inherently good,” but good because it happened to be the right thing at that one period of time.

I definitely think that...even the text, not just my headcanon, very strongly implies that the reason Aragorn’s king bid turned out successfully is because he lived most of his adult life with that prophecy over his head, and therefore practiced all his life to become an actually genuinely good king -- the whole bloodline/heirship stuff is just kind of...justification, in terms of personal/family/numenorean honor, and political plausible deniability -- Aragorn’s sincerely-felt path and reasoning to get there that isn’t just “either you’ll become king or everyone is doomed, because the future says so!” + “here’s a legal loophole to become king!”

And, I think, the in-universe reason the people of Gondor supported Aragorn becoming king is partly because coincidentally Denethor and Boromir were dead and Faramir didn’t reject him; partly because he had the bloodline loophole excuse; and partly (mostly) because everyone was so impressed with how he helped save the world.

But the reason Aragorn managed to wind up in a position to help save the world, and make the right choices to help save the world, is mostly that he was the type of brave and selfless and sincere person who would sacrifice his dream in order to rescue Merry and Pippin, or sacrifice his life to get Sauron to attack him and disregard Frodo and Sam. The sort of person who understands how much worth his people have, who knows what is deckchair-rearranging and what is a beam of true hope be it ever so slender, who accepts the sheer smallness and simplicity of what he needs to do for the greater good, and who respects and can influence his people enough to insist that they accept and understand all of this as well. Which are, like, actually good qualities in a king!

And the whole reason he became such a good person is....because he strove to be so, and because the people around him believed in him and helped him become so, and because of his and their own personal desire to restore the kingship and glory of his people. Uh. sorry. I already just said that.

It’s a circular thing. The myopic tribal hereditary reasons the characters/narrative assigns bloodline-related worth and authority to Aragorn have jack shit to do with the actual reasons he has real moral worth and earned authority, but his own priorities and desires that led to him developing that worth and authority are myopic and tribal and hereditary too.

So I think this specifically isn’t a case of “either Aragorn’s kingship is good because it is a restoration of the line of Elendil, or it isn’t good because the restoration of the line of Elendil is a morally vacuous cause.” It’s a case of causal connections that are really important but are far more circumstantial than the characters (or the narrative) acknowledges -- people interpret the restoration of the kingship as something Racially And Normatively Appropriate and Special And Right, which...is a) lmao plz, but also b) the Numenoreans and the line of Isildur specifically DO have evidence-based racially-based advantages. It’s just that those advantages don’t confer any inherent worth of any kind --- Aragorn’s bloodline just happened, in this case, to be SUPER USEFUL, because it’s ancient fairy-tale magic that lets him do SUPER USEFUL things in the context of weaponizing Middle Earth’s lingering scraps of fairy tale magic against Middle Earth’s lingering scrap of fairy tale horror. It lets him troll Sauron with a palantir that he could properly use -- due the fact that the Palantir DOES operate on ridiculous ancient morally vacuous bloodline-magic. Or lets him make the oathbreaker ghosts help him out with the corsairs, because the oathbreaker ghosts too, are ancient lingering equally morally vacuous Soulbinding Promise Magic. The whole concept of the Restoration of the Line of Elendil IS, of course, a morally vacuous cause on its own, as anything other than an in-universe stamp of political legitimacy -- but it appears to also have been an essential in-universe motivation and tool for getting the characters into the places they needed to be, in order for the intricately-woven web of events that make up LOTR to come out in the wash the way it did.

For the in-universe characters, saying that there’s something Inherently Good about the renewal of the line of kings and stuff is actually just....it’s only important to them. It’s this stopgap period, post-Ring-Destruction: re-righting the boat and kind of having this adjustment period of fairy-tale magic to kind of ease people from the pre-ring destruction world where there are dark lords and elves, to the post-ring-destruction world. Everyone in-universe goes “rah rah this isn’t just good because circumstances lined up in such a way so that it was good, as prophesied, it’s Totally Also Inherently Good independent of circumstances.” And it isn’t. At all. But it makes sense why they think that, and want to think that, and why the real explanation would not be sufficient for them. The idea that Aragorn’s one and only world-saving action was distracting Sauron from his destroyers, and that the only reason Sauron was destroyed was because of three hobbits and a mixed handful of coincidence and grace swirling together in an Augustinian whirlpool, is not a super crowdpleasing national myth.

And then, the period after he becomes king DOES imo involve like, a bunch of colonial-reminiscent shit that kind of plays into the people’s expectations and view of themselves -- the racial superiority and suggestions of imperialism-flavored actions regarding all the vague mentions throughout the early 4th age timeline of quelling rebellions in various corners of the world (though imo these are not as conclusive or devoid of wiggle-room as some people interpret them). And I REALLY DISLIKE THIS PART because I’m perennially like...yo, what a massive wasted opportunity there Tolkien...because the irony of Aragorn the hereditary king in exile being restored in such a roundabout way that has so little to do with his heirship is a plotline that would be SO MUCH BETTER to acknowledge and focus on than the bald OMG Heir Of Isildur The True King With Pure Ancestry Has Come!!! thing that happens in canon with only a tiny bit of wink-winking about how much dumb luck it actually was. It would have made a really wonderful story!

In fact, I occasionally do wonder -- from the Appendices and the Prologue of LOTR, the supposed “real” “historical” book which the in-universe character of “JRR Tolkien: Not An Author, Only A Translator” translated, is purported to be a copy of a copy of the Red Book of Westmarch that was edited and translated by the scribe Findegil of Gondor, as copied from Pippin’s copy, of Bilbo, Frodo, and Sam’s copy. And one can imagine it’s not too big a stretch that Frodo and Sam might have been more on-the-money regarding Aragorn and the whole kingship restoration plotline in their original story, but Findegil obscured their insights a bit -- even just from good-faith well-intended biased interpretation due to his understanding of Gondor’s renewal histories.

But still....even with all the undertones and overtones of the restoration of old colonial stuff -- does that mean restoration of old colonial shit in perpetuity? I don’t think THAT’S a necessary extrapolation. For one, imo there’s no testament of proportionality. Elements of recurrences of old colonial shit seem to have been present! -- but for how long, how impactful or destructive, compared to how much tables-turning revolutionary awesome genuine improvement stuff, given everything Sauron had been doing? I mean could be shittier than anything like is often is IRL, but this is as outsode of RL as you get. So. A drop amid a flood? Could be. Who knows? Not much is specified, but not much is precluded either. You can fill in that 120 year gap with almost anything. If someone wanted to fill it with some fantasy of a historical-fiction Realpolitik aesthetic, instead of actually making up something new from the unlimited amount of creative potential conferred by an ahistorical post-dark-lord fantasy setting, that’s legit, but it’s still just conjecture.

Going back up 5 paragraphs to when I thought this was going to be a short answer (LOL) -- 120 years is both very long AND very short -- i.e., 120 years is a nose-to-the-ground view vis-a-vis Silmarillion times, but otoh vis-a-vis RL timelines, there’s just so much TIME and room for....i mean 120 years ago today was 1897? Before World War I? How vastly has world and domestic policy has changed since then? Or like...pick from your choice of other 120 year periods in pre-modern history too, if that’s not a good comparison. Even if there isn’t much concrete reliable evidence, there’s still a lot of room, even before Aragorn’s death - but even more room after it! - for the people of the Reunited Kingdom to potentially, if you so choose, have their day in the sun comforting themselves about how great they are and how their ancestral royal line is restored, and then just slowly move on, change, grow, progress, decide some of their earlier ideas were dumb, reverse themselves in various political and foreign policy arenas (like they had already started to do in some cases during the LOTR timeline), quietly purge themselves of their racist bullshit -- over the course of a few generations, as is the way of mortal realms. And most importantly, to finally let go of the past, because they’ve been able to taste the satisfaction of a fairy tale, and have come through it, and their children’s children have now lived to see a time where they don’t need it.

(This assumes that The New Shadow is non-canon. Which. HELL YES. It is fucking non-canon, because it’s stupid and even Tolkien thought it was depressing and mean-spirited, which is seriously saying something.)

#berrysphase #athrabething #FAIR WARNING THIS IS SOOOOO LLOOONNNGG #and i also don't know if it makes any sense whatsoever bc i didn't edit #lord of the rings #aragorn

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snazzyo · 7 years

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2 in 1 shot by shot

I did a "shot by shot" of the "2 in 1" promo. I slowed it down to .25 speed and played it on my HD 24 in screen. I'll list the shots w/ my commentary in italics

1. old house door -- the one Kelly is in? 2. Dean slices his hand for spell -- his watch is evident in multiple shots later 3. Crowley's hand reaching out of his grave -- personally, I find this a 'standard' shot used in many TV genre TV shows (Buffy, Being Human, etc... ) not some "property of Dean Winchester" shot. 4. Mystery Figure w/ guns:

thoughts: Later we see him shooting a gun REMARKABLY similar to Dean's. OTOH, where's the bowlegs? Also, does this person have a slight paunch? My first instinct is JDM. But he's so very skinny these days. Still, JDM wants Jensen to direct him. Jensen is directing in S13 -- likely the 3rd episode (as always) and we could still be in the Other World at that point. So... JDM could be in as many as 4 episodes and Jensen gets to direct him. But... it's a stretch. Alternatively, there could be some temporal phenomenon going on and this is Dean after years in the Other World (again..... the shoulder to hip ratio is definitely NOT Sam and doesn't really look Jensen). Bobby? I know Bobby may have been sent elsewhere two years ago. But Jim Beaver is either trolling us hard or that is not Bobby. So... I'm going 1) JDM, 2) Bobby, 3) young John, 4) Dean, or 5) "other". 5. Lawrence House staircase -- likely in the past 6. Dean w/ cutup leg -- bowlegs evident 7. Someone washing off a grisly looking claw device 8. Dean wired up in the Bunker for a mind trip. Note, bunker lights are fully ON. 9. Baby crib in what looks like a 1960's living room - did Cas hide Kelly in the past? 10. Cas by pristine lake 11. BMoL red shirts grabbing guns in their compound 12. Black & White picture of Lucifer coming out of Crowley's early lair (the New York asylum) 13. Cas reaching up with a finger to touch someone at the old house by the lake 14. Kelly, pregnant, in comfy bed 15. Luci swirling a lock of Rowena's hair in a fancy room w/ blood on the chair -- it sure implies he got her 16. Somebody depressing a detonator switch 17. Mystery Man walking 18. Ketch calling either Sam or Dean's phone -- looks like they are in the motel room based on placemat 19. Dean crying 20. Sam closing his eyes (with emotion) in BMoL compound, Jody in background 21. More Mystery Man walking, this time towards a prone Cas 22. Satellite photo of a city with a spot marked in the center 23. Kelly painting baby's room 24. Mystery Man walking towards prone Cas, firing over Cas' head at some other target -- gun looks just like the one Dean uses in the promo 25. Other World Sam with shocked face 24. Bloody footprint on wood floor 25. Other World Dean with shocked face 26. Dean's hand w/ Enochian brass knuckles 27. Dean pointing to blueprint along the curved wall (perhaps under the telescope level)? 28. Hand-cuffed Lady Toni w/ancient MoL gear attached to modern tablet 29. Dead-looking bloody dude -- I agree it's a random hunter 30. 4 spires in Other World w/ rocks and three dead dude -- one non-human sitting, two prone 31. Jody's picture on a cell phone w/ her Sioux Falls location 32. Lucifer looking at someone 33. Sam and Dean, looking tired and sweaty, sitting on the ground next to a curved wall with a relatively shallow portion smashed out. Laterns and emergency power evident. Empty bottle of scotch. -- Looks like "smash our way out doesn't work". 34. BMoL conference room 35. Jodi's truck moving quickly 36. Cas looks out of old house window 37. Bloody Dean face -- he looks satisfied 38. Ketch goes flying in MoL Bunker, across the table, the lights are on like normal. 39. Ketch w/ snub gun, bleeding 40. Ketch appears injured in upper arm/shoulder, in continuation of fight. 41. Electronic evesdropping display 42. Jody at BMoL compound 43. Spell bowl lights up 44. Ketch's phone says "Lester's down. Who's next." 45. Mary's face showing shock in Other World 46. Kelly in bed. 47. Cas touching Dean w/ two fingers & glowing thing is happening in old house 48. Sam looks stunned (in old house) 49. Cas says "you" to Mystery Man in Other World

Comments based on all sources (this promo, regular promo, pictures, and BTS):

Scene locations: - MoL Bunker w/out power, motel, MoL Bunker WITH power, BMoL compound - Old house, Other World Action sequences: - Looks like it's Dean vs Ketch & I think Dean wins - Sam seems to be at the BMoL compound - Dean seems to be recovering Mary - The boys & Lady Toni use a spell to get out of the Bunker - They boys are in a motel room plotting - The boys & Mary are recovered and in the Bunker talking about Lucifer - Cas & Kelly have some quiet moments at the Lake House - Sam, Dean and I think Lucifer show up at the Lake House -- I'm struggling with the two different cribs (one in a 60's living room, one in nephilim baby's bedroom... neither are Sams') - Otherworld has two sequences -- one w/ Luci, Cas, Sam, Dean & Mary and the other w/ Cas and Mystery Man

Theories: - We aren't in Kansas anymore in Otherworld. Doesn't look Oz but it looks different (future, different realm, don't know) - There may be temporal thing going on -- and/or a time shift

#spn spoilers

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