#Otogi: Myth of Demons

[posthumanwanderings]

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[miirshroom]

Elden Ring and Introduction to the FromSoftware Meta-Narrative

If a rune is a story and a great rune is a great story, then what are the great stories represented by the Great Runes? The answer that I have arrived at: The abstract concept of FromSoftware's various videogame development pipelines. Afterall, the Elden Ring represents a metaphysical concept, so why not an examination of the past, present, and future identity of a company that produces videogames. Major spoilers ahead for Elden Ring, Bloodborne, and Armoured Core 6, and minor spoilers for several other FromSoft games.

Godrick's Great Rune

The Dark Souls (2011-2018) Great Rune seems obvious - Godrick's Great rune. If the 3 ringed shape wasn't the tip-off (corresponding to 3 games) then perhaps that the dragon figure on top of the Banished Knight helmet is the same creature as the Nameless King's mount. Dark Souls Eygon of Carim wears the Morne set and guards a fire keeper named Irena, while in Elden Ring Edgar of Castle Morne in Godrick's territory loses his eyes to frenzy after discovering the death of his daughter Irena.

Godrick himself seems to function as representative of Dark Souls Remastered, in a sense that the repulsive practice of grafting is being equated to the creative dead-end of revisiting old games such as Dark Souls (2011) and pasting on updated graphics and quality of life features while having to work around out-dated code. I think that Godefroy could be seen as a much earlier use of this practice as the difference between original Dark Souls and the Prepare to Die edition (2012) that included improvements + Artorius DLC. And Godwyn's parallel would be Dark Souls 3 (2016). I would thus consider Godwyn and Godrick as brothers in Elden Ring because in the internal logic of FromSoftware there were always planned to be a trilogy of Dark Souls games.

Dark Souls 2 is annoying to explain succinctly partially because it was directed by Naotoshi Zin Yui Taimura (correction: Naotoshi Zin was the supervisor, which was his role on all Dark Souls games as president of the company from 1986-2014) instead of Hidetaka Miyazaki. In short, there are some blurry lines between Dark Souls 2: Scholar of the First Sin and Bloodborne.

Malenia's and Miquella's Great Runes

Malenia herself has an obvious match in Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice (2019) - it is in the Dragon Rot being correlated to Scarlet Rot, the parallels between Malenia's dedication to Miquella and Wolf's dedication to Kuro, and that it's one of the few recent FromSoft games to be released without paid DLC or sequel (which as it happens is common among all empyrean and their game counterparts). Numerous people have commented that Malenia feels like a Sekiro boss to fight - although with the added twist of mechanics like clearing her poise break that allow her to "cheat" compared to the bosses of that game.

However, the exact nature of Malenia's Great Rune is more nebulous - probably could be a stand-in for multiple Japanese-style combat games in the catalogue including Shadow Assault: Tenchu (2008) and Otogi: Myth of Demons (2002). Certainly, it has been confirmed by FromSoftware representatives that Sekiro was internally considered a Tenchu game for some time before release, as discussed in the aptly titled 2018 GameSpot article "Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice Originally Started As A Tenchu Game".

Miquella may or may not have a Great Rune. If he does, it would correspond to games in a similar spirit to Déraciné (2018), the game which Miquella most likely represents. A much smaller game, the idea of which originated in the wake of Bloodborne's release at around the same time that the idea for Sekiro began to form - twin ideas. The game Kuon (2004) also seems to have served some inspiration for the Haligtree, as there is a side-story told about silkworms and a central Mulberry Tree in that game.

Radahn's Great Rune

Radahn's Rune represents the Armored Core franchise - or perhaps the broader idea of mech combat games - while he is himself a personification of Armoured Core 6: The Fires of Rubicon (2023). The opening part of his boss fight is an artillery bombardment, similar to the long range weapon capabilities of the AC units. The central motifs of AC6 are "fire" and "coral" - and the general theme of Caelid is using fire to control the rot that has eaten Radahn's mind and which manifests in the landscape as growths resembling coral reef.

A major part of Radahn's character is that he idolized Godfrey, who is himself embodying AC4 (2006)/4A (2008). The name "Loux" means "Lynx" - and in a departure from the Ravens of earlier titles AC4 introduces the Lynx units. It also simply makes sense that the progenitor of the Golden Lineage - who I previously correlated to Dark Souls - would be represented in the first game that Miyazaki directed.

And I can see the objection that this doesn't make sense because we know that Radahn must have been born before Malenia/Miquella, so how can he represent a game that came after? Simply: it's not about when the game idea was executed, but about when the concept was first proposed. FromSoftware probably knew that they would eventually return to Armoured Core at about the time they wrapped on AC5V.

Morgott and Mohg's Great Runes

Now that some boundary conditions have been set it is easier to speculate on the nature of Morgott and Mohg - AC5 (2012) and AC5V (2013), respectively. Points of comparison: 1) They are of the Golden Lineage as they preceded from AC4A represented by Godfrey, 2) They are omens that any game without Miyazaki attached will be perceived poorly in hindsight (as he did not direct either game), 3) The AC games were at the time FromSoftware's most well known and active franchise before being overshadowed by souls games - those touched by the Crucible were once considered divine and only later fell into disfavor.

But as I already mentioned, with speculation that Radahn holds the Armoured Core Great Rune Morgott and Mohg must have claimed some other stories. This also aids in understanding how they can exist as multiple copies - there is the version of them before and after claiming Great Runes that do not match their original natures. Morgott is the easiest to figure out - it's the Elden Ring (2022) Rune. There is one Great Rune in the entire game that is mandatory to beating the game, and it is the one held by Morgott. Perhaps this raises a question of how can the Elden Ring have a single Great Rune dedicated to itself, but as I have been attempting to describe - all FromSoftware games should be treated as a single body of work looking backwards from Elden Ring. The initial concept of an "Elden Ring" stretches back at least as far as Eternal Ring (2000), and Morgott's rune is described as an "anchor ring that houses the base" so it does have a central importance.

And there's a relatively straightforward answer to which game would be considered a twin to Elden Ring - Demon's Souls (2009). The leitmotif in the menu music for Elden Ring has been identified as a more triumphant version of the Demon's Souls menu music. The core themes of Elden Ring are also much concerned with philosophies of identity in much the same way that Demon's Souls explores the definition of the self as an entity that thinks (look up "Philosophical Analysis of Demon's Souls" by The Gemsbok on Youtube for more on this). And Elden Ring serves as something of a bookend to Demon's Souls - both games are divided into 6 sections via 6 stone structures (the Archstones of Demon's Souls and the Divine Towers of Elden Ring). The 6th Archstone of Demon's Souls is broken, but what lies beyond is a snowy landscape. Elden Ring finally provides access to that snowy landscape in the Forbidden Lands, which is again only available after defeating Morgott - and with the Great Rune being activated at the tower closest to this area.

But there are independent reasons why Mohg's Great Rune should be the one that encompasses Demon's Souls. The Demon's Souls franchise potential has been irreversibly corrupted by the recent remake. The philosophy is still generally intact - that is portrayed through text. But critical aspects of art design have been altered beyond recognition - mostly of interest to me is the portrayal of the Yellow Monk and the Fool's Idol and the area of Latria in general. Mohg himself has this in the design of his robes and trident which steal the motifs of the helix and the black flame but corrupt them in ways that read almost as gibberish compared to their deliberate uses elsewhere.

The four-armed doll of the Fool's Idol hints at who the original owner of this rune might have been - Ranni's mentor Renna. And through embodying the witch Renna, it may be that ownership of this rune was transfered to Ranni before she chose to discard it. Demon's Souls did generally fit the previously established criteria of Empyrean game (no sequels or DLC), but the potential for future games is lost now as creating a sequel to the original would alienate people confused by the aesthetic corruption of the remake. There is also a rabbithole here for what all this Great Rune encompasses because Demon's Souls itself did not spring out of nowhere - it is of a similar approach to game design that was previously last seen in Shadow Tower Abyss (2003) and Kingsfield IV (2001).

The Great Rune of the Unborn

The Great Rune of the Unborn is a difficult one to pin down through this method of unpacking the Great Runes as much as any other. It seems possible that Miquella wanted this Great Rune and thought that it could be obtained by arranging his own rebirth. It is also one of two stories that must be obtained for Ranni's Age of Stars to be possible (the other being Radahn's story) - indicating that it represents something that did not exist at the time of Elden Ring's release. Running low on demi-gods, perhaps this is best understood as Melina's Great Rune. It is implied through Melina's abilities to channel Marika's echoes and through her descriptor in the code "MarikaofDaughter" that she is an offspring of Marika. Contradictory to the other demi-gods who can typically be matched to FromSoftware games, Melina's bodiless status seems to indicate that she never has been and her burning at the Forge of Giants is acknowledgement that she never will be. A comparison can be drawn between Melina and the disembodied Ayre - voice of the Coral in AC6. The unrealized potential of the Great Rune of the Unborn seems a good match to Melina.

Rykard's Great Rune

So, by process of elimination there is one rune left and it is Rykard's Great Rune. Fitting that the one game candidate remaining is Bloodborne (2015). An article titled "How the Spirit of Bloodborne Lives on in Elden Ring" (posted on VG247 by Alan Wen) goes over the ways that Volcano Manor evokes Bloodborne. The Manor sits on top of a hidden town of gothic architecture similar to Yharnam being stacked on top Old Yharnam, the Ghiza's Wheel weapon found in the manor has a clear design lineage to the whirligig saw from Bloodborne, the Iron Virgin at Raya Lucaria transports the player to a secondary location similar to Bloodborne's Kidnappers. But to me, the most clear connection is the finding of the Serpent's Amnion and Rya's dismay of being born of a hideous ritual. This seems a form of call-back or iteration to the ending of Bloodborne that involves consuming four 3rds of umbilical cord and being reborn as a Great One - a repellent little squid-slug thing.

[found-in-retro-game-mags]

Otogi: Myth of Demons

“Out Of Myth Comes Mayhem” (Electronic Gaming Monthly #171, Oct. 2003)

[g4zdtechtv]

FULL EPISODE: X-Play - Let’s Make It Brief

The kids love nostalgia from an era they didn’t live in!

[6-evil-6-soul-6]

Since I saw it on youtube by accident many years ago, I allways wanted but never had a chance to play in both parts of Otogi by From Software on original Xbox. Sadly there's still not a single working emulator to play it on mobile. Besides deep, mysterious and magical atmosphere and amazing action gameplay mechanics, there's one character from this game that I'm mesmerised and obsessed with. Urabe no Suetake...

His weapon is called "chaos wheel", which can be a mix between Chaos Star, an evil symbol and an ancient symbol of Buddhism, Dharma wheel or wheel of life. It inspired me to use and edit those 2 pictures

And then make this from them

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‘Otogi: Myth of Demons’

[XBOX] [USA] [MAGAZINE] [2003]

GMR, October 2003 (#09)

Scanned by marktrade, via The Internet Archive

[jaytheholymoonlight]

Microsoft used to get From software exclusive games on their consoles, but Xbox One had a Bad relationship with Japan.

A Fromsoftware exclusive would be huge for them for their next console.

[theguywithaplan]

List of video games turning 20 years old in 2023:

Advance Wars 2: Black Hole Rising

Alien Versus Predator: Extinction

Amplitude (an early rhythm game from Harmonix, the creators of Rock Band)

Ape Escape 2

Aquaman: Battle for Atlantis (the Superman 64 for Aquaman)

Arc the Lad: Twilight of the Spirits

Banjo-Kazooie: Grunty's Revenge

Batman: Dark Tomorrow (the Superman 64 for Batman)

Beyond Good and Evil

Bloody Roar 4 (the last game in the series to release)

Boktai: The Sun is in Your Hand (a very unique action RPG from Metal Gear creator Hideo Kojima)

Brute Force

Call of Duty (the very first one)

Castlevania: Aria of Sorrow

Crimson Skies: High Road to Revenge

Dark Cloud 2

Deus Ex: Invisible War

Devil May Cry 2

Dino Crisis 3 (C'mon, Capcom, do another one)

Disaster Report

Disgaea: Hour of Darkness

Dragon Ball Z: The Legacy of Goku II

Drake of the 99 Dragons

Dynasty Warriors 4

Enter the Matrix

Eve Online

Fatal Frame II: Crimson Butterfly

Final Fantasy Tactics Advance (my personal favorite TRPG)

Final Fantasy X-2

Final Fantasy XI Online (in the States. Also the first MMO in the series)

Fire Emblem: The Blazing Blade (the first Fire Emblem game to release in the States)

Freedom Fighters

Freelancer

F-Zero GX

The Getaway

Golden Sun: The Lost Age

Grabbed by the Ghoulies (the first game developed by Rare after being acquired by Xbox)

.hack//Infection

.hack//Mutation

.hack//Outbreak (yep, three .hack games were released in a single year)

Homeworld 2

Ikaruga (the most video game-ass video game that ever video game'd)

Jak II

Jurassic Park: Operation Genesis

Kirby: Air Ride

Legacy of Kain: Defiance (the last game in the series to release)

The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker

Lost Kingdoms II

Manhunt

Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga

Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour

Mario Kart: Double Dash!!

Mario Party 5

Max Payne 2: The Fall of Max Payne

Medal of Honor: Rising Sun

Mega Man & Bass (was originally a Sega Saturn exclusive that only released in Japan. It released over in the States on the GBA.)

Mega Man Battle Network 3

Mega Man X7

Mega Man Zero 2

Metal Arms: Glitch in the System

Midnight Club II

Need for Speed: Underground

Otogi: Myth of Demons (an early SoulsBorne-like game from From Software)

Panzer Dragoon Orta

P.N.03

Pokémon Ruby/Sapphire (in the States)

Postal 2

Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time

Ratchet & Clank: Going Commando

Rayman 3: Hoodlum Havoc

Rise of Nations

Robocop (the Superman 64 for Robocop)

Silent Hill 3

The Simpsons: Hit & Run

Sonic Advance 2

SoulCalibur II (the console versions)

Sphinx and the Cursed Mummy

Spongebob Squarepants: Battle for Bikini Bottom

Star Wars: Galaxies

Star Wars: Jedi Knight - Jedi Academy

Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic

Super Mario Advance 4: Super Mario Bros. 3 (a remake of Super Mario Bros. 3 for the GBA)

Tak and the Power of Juju

1080° Avalanche

Tenchu: Wrath of Heaven

Tomb Raider: The Angel of Darkness

Tony Hawk’s Underground

Toontown Online

True Crime: Streets of LA (Activision's attempt at a GTA clone)

Unlimited SaGa

Unreal II: The Awakening

Viewtiful Joe

Virtua Fighter 4: Evolution

Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne (the last Warcraft game before WoW)

Wario World

WarioWare, Inc.: Mega MicroGame$!

Xenosaga Episode I: Der Wille zur Macht (The Will to Power)

XIII

Zone of the Enders: The 2nd Runner

[posthumanwanderings]

will have to come back to Otogi: Myth of Demons via XEMU / CXBX or whatev at another time...

[hideous-armor]

From the Otogi: Myth of Demons artbook

Got these from here

[kalamity-jayne]

Hmmm...if we’re just talking about my teens:

Halo

Resident Evil 2

Doom 3

Oddworld: Munch’s Oddysee

Otogi: Myth of Demons

[g4zdtechtv]

FULL EPISODE: X-Play - How Extraterrestrials Say I Love You

Featuring a game that was never released in the USA!

[i-wish-i-said-that]

List of otome games by developer

The companies that control most English otome games on mobile phones are:

- Voltage Inc

- OKKO

- HUNEX

- NTT Solmare

- Abracadabra

- Genius Inc

- Arithmetic

- D3 Publisher

- Hanabi Media

- Cybird

Hunex

Arcana Famiglia

Ephemeral

Love Story of Sharehouse

The Crimson Kiss to Saint

White Memory

London Detective Story

Tengu Otogi Zoushi

Prince, Steward and Assassin

Broccoli: 

Kamigami no Asobi

Magic Kyun Renaissance

Uta no Prince Sama

Voltage:

Love Letter from Thief X

My Forged Wedding

My Sweet Bodyguard

Pirates in Love

Be My Princess 1 and 2

Kiss of Revenge

Class Trip Crush

A Knight’s Devotion

Seduced in the Sleepless City

In Your Arms Tonight 1 and 2

Metro PD: Close to You

10 Days with My Devil

Kissed by the Baddest Bidder

Serendipity Next Door

Dreamy Days in West Tokyo

Office Secrets

Star-Crossed Myth

Sakura Amidst Chaos

Scandal in the Spotlight

Enchanted in the Moonlight

Kiss Me on Clover Hill

Our Two Bedroom Story

True Love Sweet Lies

Finally, in Love Again

My Wedding and 7 Rings

First Love Diaries - A Kiss on the Beach

Her Love in the Force

Butler Until Midnight

Bad Boys Do it Better

My Last First Kiss

Gossip Girl: Style Your Love

After School Affairs

Era of Samurai: Code of Love

Liar! Uncover The Truth

Dangerous Seduction

Irresistible Mistakes

Our Private Homeroom

Kings of Paradise

Ikemen Series

Ikemen Revolution: Love & Magic in Wonderland

Ikemen Sengoku: Romances Across Time

Destined to Love: Ikemen Samurai Romances

Midnight Cinderella: Ikemen Royal Romances

Love, Lies & a Heist: Ikemen Royale

Idea Factory Otomate

Hiiro no Kakera

Wand of Fortune

Desert Kingdom

Natsuzora no Monologue

Clock Zero - Shuuen no Ichibyou

Moujuutsukai to Ouji-sama

Amnesia

Brothers Conflict

Diabolik Lovers

Sweet Fuse

Black Wolves Saga - Last Hope

Norn9 - Norn + Nonette

Princess Arthur

Glass Heart Princess

Shiratsuyu no Kai

Snow Bound Land

Jewelic Nightmare

Gakuen K - Wonderful School Days

Hakuoki

Shinobi, Koi Utsutsu

Chronostacia

Nekketsu Inou Bukatsu-tan Trigger Kiss

Code: Realise

Psychedelica of the Black Butterfly / Hawk

Reine des Fleurs

Bad Apple Wars

Collar x Malice

Yuukyuu no Tierblade

Hana Oboro Sengoku Denranki

Shiro to Kuro no Alice

Shall We Date (NTT Solmare)

Lost Alice+

Guard me, Sherlock!+

Ninja Shadows+

Love Tangle+

Blood in Roses+

Wizards Heart+

We the Girls+

Modern Cinderella+

Oz+

Destiny Ninja 1 / 2 + 

THE NIFLHEIM+

Ninja Assassin+

Ninja Love+

My Sweet Prince+

My Fairy Tales+

Lost Island+

Scarlet Fate+

Magic Sword+

Angel or Devil+

Mononoke Kiss+

Sengoku Darling

Teen Samurai

Princess Arthur

Eternal Vows

Pirates

Arabian Dreams

War of Prayers

Seasons of Love

Scarlet Fate

Demons’ Bond

Castle Break

Guilty Alice

Never Look Back

Hero in Love

Can’t Say No

Sim Date 

Star Days

Number Days

Memory Days

Lunar Days

Chrono Days

Kingdom Days

Idol Days

Wonderland Days

Festival Days

Day 7

Sleeping Delivery

Marked by King Bs

Miss Detective’s Undercover

Beauty Rental Shop

Love Signal: D-Mate

[baeddelicto]

hav ny of u souls heds playd otogi myth of demons? wut did u thnk?