#OoT Rewrite

[zelda-without-a-licence-plate]

pov you are watching ocarina of time: the animated series on vhs bc you were feeling nostalgic for your favourite cartoon from the nineties

part 1 / part 2

[shummthechumm]

assorted (rewrite) designs that i never posted here? das crazyyy

[ganondoodle]

okay i got an idea, do you think this works?

sages past:

fire = goron water = zora wind = rito thunder = gerudo spirit = mineru light = rauru time = sonia shadow = / earth = / - ((ganondorf)) (the plan wasnt yet finished so the search for someone suitable was still ongoing when the end started)

sages present: fire = yuno (fire boom thing) water = sidon (long range attack/ or just adding element on weapon + damage boost) wind = tulin (wind gust) thunder = riju (lightning strike) spirit = purah (guardian laser? or sth related to tech) light + time = zelda (she has a shield, you get time gimick) shadow = koga (teleport)

((earth = ganondorf, cataclysm + general tree theme with miasma))

keep in mind i just want to make it seem plausible, theres no way to put anyone into a clear role and im taking the enigma stones as just a power boost to whatever magic someone wields rather than anything super divine (in this game)

so again its just supposed to be believable, i could match koga for almost every single one of the powers tbh, im taking feedback on this of course, but still theres no perfekt solution sadly

[sage-nebula]

PSA: Zelda was the light dragon for way longer than 10,000 years.

The event that takes place 10,000 years prior to BotW was the first recorded Calamity. The first recorded Calamity is not what we see in the TotK flashbacks, with Rauru and Sonia and all that. The first recorded Calamity took place AFTER Ganondorf was sealed, when his malice escaped confinement. This is the event the Guardians and Divine Beasts were built for. The Guardians and Divine Beasts were used successfully, the Sheikah were banished by the mad king of Hyrule and the Yiga Clan formed as a result, and Zelda was the light dragon for all of it.

So to summarize, the timeline is:

A really long time ago, probably the Era of Myth noted in Creating a Champion: Sonia and Rauru found Hyrule 3.0, Ganondorf starts a war and is sealed, Zelda turns herself into a dragon

A long time after that - 10,000 years pre BotW: First recorded Calamity, Sheikah tech helps avert it, Sheikah are subsequently banished & Yiga form, dragon Zelda chills in clouds

9,900 years later - 100 years pre BotW: Next Calamity happens, Divine Beasts and Guardians are corrupted, Champions are killed and Zelda (human) restrains Ganon in the castle while Zelda (light dragon) flies around

100 years later - BotW: Link wakes up, helps Zelda (human) seal Ganon again, while Zelda (dragon) hangs out in the sky

5 or 6 years later - TotK: Zelda (human) gets yeeted to the Era of Myth, beginning the time loop, while Link works to beat Ganondorf and eventually transform dragon Zelda back into a human

Some have speculated that the "10,000" number used for the first recorded Calamity is meant as a generalization or something similar, because how can history be recorded so far back? But regardless, these are the numbers we are given. Since the first recorded Calamity was stated to have been 10,000 years ago, and the Sonia and Rauru stuff would have to have happened before that, we can surmise that Zelda was a dragon for way longer than just 10,000 years. Thank you for coming to my LOZ Talk.

Bonus: the beginning of the timeline outlined in Creating a Champion as receipts:

[bonefall]

DOES FIRESTAR KILL TIGERSTAR FOR GOOD????? SPILL PLEASE ELDER BONE. (Also, in sweet Nothings, where Firestar has flaming chains of retribution, can he use those on Tigerstar in the Great Battle?!?)

Of course he does!! I can't end off OotS without having Firestar axe the guy who caused his death in this rewrite! I can't just NOT have something cool as shit!

Grappling and twirling, Tigerstar snaps and bites air, Firestar slashes and catches solid muscle, a paw collides with his face like a stone and he tumbles over and back onto his feet, Tigerstar pounces like a panther

Burying his teeth into his scruff, shreiks of pain, echoing like the death rattle of a star, and Firestar... fades! Orange smoke dissapates in thick plumes, a firey haze surrounds the tyrant king.

At first, he's in disbelief. A silence settles over the crowd... his laugh breaks it. Wild eyed and cheshire grinned, he cackles maniacally, lashing his tail as the fog clears, licking his lips and bathing in his glory

Only to be joined by the incredulous chuckle of Graystripe. It snaps Tigerstar back, suddenly. He whips around at him, "What do YOU have to laugh about?"

And the old cat coos and shakes his head, "For someone who spent so many seasons thinking about fighting Firestar, you're sure quick to forget his favorite trick..."

The mist thickens like a cloud in the sky above. The crowd yowls in shock as it swirls and puffs, forming fur and whiskers and glowing green eyes. Like an arrow, sharp claws plunge straight towards their target, slicing clean through Tigerstar's neck.

The last thing he hears is Graystripe's excited cry, "He plays dead!"

[violetparakeetdraweroffurries]

lionblaze, hollyshade, jaylight

these are my versions of them, i'm changing up the events of po3 and oots by compressing them into a single arc, which changes a bunch of stuff about them

also i put in their genotypes for fun. hmm, where could lion's rosettes and holly's charcoal come from...

[wc-wild-rewrite]

ok, so it occured to me that i have a plot hole. In the first arc, fireheart gives up family rite of Cloudkit to Brindleface, making brindle's family cloud's family in the eyes of Starclan. however, this now means ivy and dove wouldn't fit the kin of your kin thing. so, i need to change their parentage.

Reasonings for options under the cut

Jayfeather has so many kits later on so he can't have any more.

Lionblaze's six were fused into three so he could be an option, but i don't want both jay and lion to have a ton of kits

Hollyleaf has no kits, perhaps she has them in the tunnels? i refuse to do fallenholly, but maybe their cinderheart's? will have to adjust things if its her

Breezepelt. he'll still have his canon 4 daughters way later, but maybe he has 6 daughters. but again, shit ton of kits for one guy.

Raven or Bracken's, the other two parts of the power of six (eight, counting ivy and dove), who are loners raised by sol

or one of Scourge's four kits, though i have kits prepared for them already, i could probably fit those two in

There are technically other options, but those are stretches at best and acrobatic feats at worst

[yuridovewing]

is it bad that i do wanna have tbc happen directly after oots in razorverse now….

[shannonsketches]

i mean they can censor the blood for an OoT remake and make it like… black. I mean it could have the same effect. However the game might just be E 10+ because modern nintendy is full of cowards

If the blood was the only issue I would agree. I'm pretty sure they just took the blood out entirely for the 3D version (except for the patterning on the deadhands maybe) and changed Gan's to green instead?

They usually go with blue or green to make it less gorey than red. Black might be too stark, and make the player think it's a shadow or something interactive.

I think modern Zelda games are already rated E10+ though, unfortunately, and that's pretty much as far as that can go.

[sillspore]

alright guys we have a decision to make…. i don’t want to condemn squirrel to unhappiness, so while she will have her moment with bramble she ends up with crow, who will join tc to be w her. this is after their bio kits (breeze and holly) are full grown, probably right after the big reveal of the three’s parentage. SO. crow is good. but, breeze’s bad childhood is essential to his character “arc” (if you can call it that, they gave up on it after oots)

so we have two options. 1) awful nightcloud. this keeps the integrity of breeze’s backstory, but allows for crow to be a good guy. 2) neither crow or night are cruel to him, breeze is loved by his parents but the clan subtly shuns him. his emo backstory is lessened, but he can still have an arc. what do we think?

[zelda-without-a-licence-plate]

long time no see! was working on a lot of oc stuff. got in the mood to draw Malon :) she's my sweet potato pie my everything... <3

[curseofpower]

Writing WW Ganon is such a ride. The overwhelming sorrow and the sheer fucking madness. The loneliness that will have him talking to anyone who will listen in hopes of them understanding even just a fraction of the shit he's been through. The uncontrollable rage setting off in bursts that can leave entire islands shredded (even before regaining all his power) and manifests in him snapping in ways that would be jarring like a lighting bolt and gone just as fast.

The heartache of just knowing how desperate he must be, how hurt, how traumatized and alone. Imagine what he came home to, after breaking the seal to the sacred realm. Imagine him finding no one left alive because his actions made the Gerudo even more irredemable in the eyes of Hyrule, the only ones still standing now watered down and raised intentionally to forget their culture. If there even are any at all. After seeing Twilight Princess I don't have high hopes for the survival of the Gerudos, and it would explain his "red rage" that drove him to start immediately ripping Hyrule to shreds starting from the sages on up.

Not to mention their conspicuous absence in Wind Waker at all.

[flipseed]

The Rewritten Timeline

Period One

- Ancients: LionClan, TigerClan, LeopardClan rule the forest, told through dramatic epics of lions getting their manes, tigers their stripes, and leopards their spots.

- Dawn: DOTC except they do not come from the Tribe of Rushing Water or the ancient cats from the lake. they are descendants of tigers and lions and leopards, with the five clans taking traits from the three big ones and dividing the forest amongst them to share in peace and harmony. there's the in between the AE and DOTC, with the Tale of Two Brothers (Gray Wing & Clear Sky), One Eye's Demise which created the Dark Forest, the Bloodiest Battle and the creation of StarClan, and Moth Flight's Vision which led to the Moonstone and creation of medicine cats. Thunderstar and Skystar are not father/son in this au. All Clan founders are the same age in this au 👍

- Might of Justice/Code Era: the warrior code is established in a series of events that have since become fables. The tradition of the Gathering on the full moon is also established by Birchstar of SkyClan after the events of Cloudberry's Lament. Half-moon meeting for medicine cats is also established in this era by Swiftfoot of WindClan during the events of The Medicine Cats Decide

- Skyfall Era: SkyClan gets driven out. The name initially puts blame on SkyClan, but this era is eventually referred to as StarClan's Failing or The Four's Secret in modern versions of the stories

Period Two

- Golden Era: After SkyClan was forced out of their home, the four remaining Clans seemed to prosper, proving to those who sympathized with SkyClan that they were better off without them and the four Clans were righteous. Peace and harmony were restored for a brief period, until Ripplestar's attack

- Bloodstained Era: The Clans quickly fell into old habits of killing and plundering one another, still relatively lawless in regards to battles and borders. Four new rules were added during this era in order to prevent the copius amount of bloodshed that had happened without rules to guide the Clan cats. The Clans realized that in order to distinguish themselves from rogues, they had to maintain some semblance of dignity and honor as well as respect for each other

Period Three

- Secrecy Era: The Clans stopped relying on each other and Gatherings became short due to each Clan trying to prevent inter-Clan romances after Mapleshade's death. Oakstar is also conducting his raids on Twolegplace during this time in order to appease StarClan and make sure none of his warriors betray him again

- Thunder's Beginning Era: Goosefeather's birth marks the beginning of this era. His prophecies changed ThunderClan, and by extension all five Clans, forever. Pinestar's Secret was added to the code during this era and an interpretation of the code began to gain traction: where loyalty is stressed, might = right, and some rules are deemed not as important or are tossed completely. This era ends with Brokenstar succeeding Raggedstar

- Fire Alone Era: Rusty is brought into ThunderClan and eventually becomes Firestar. This era covers the events of the first series and ends with Scourge's demise. This era also establishes the banning of cruel renaming in the code. Also Longtail is made deputy instead of Graystripe at the end 👍. After Longtail loses his vision, he steps down as deputy and then Graystripe is chosen 😊.

Period Four

- Midnight Era: This era covers the events of Brambleclaw and crew leaving to the Clans making it to the lake

- Sunset Era: Begins with Tallstar making Onestar leader instead of Mudclaw and basically the second half of TNP. Ends with Firestar choosing Brambleclaw as his deputy in replacement of the missing Graystripe

Period Five

Some cats argue if Period Five and Four are actually separate, since all the events that happened are so close together time-wise, but others argue they are distinct and separate due to the different prophecies that ruled both periods

- Beyond Stars Era: Covers basically all of PoT, with changes to who knows about the Three and Sol's influence and Firestar dying in the fire scene. Hollyleaf's Gathering outburst is what officially adds the medicine cats can't have kits rule to the code

- Omens/Apocalypse Era: Covers all of OotS, with Bramblestar taking over ThunderClan and Rowanstar taking over ShadowClan. The Clans are uneasy with Hollyleaf's disappearance, since they all thought she was part of the Three. Dovewing's discovery of her own powers puts most cats' minds at ease. There are small groups of cats in each Clan that fear the Three and their power and believe they are going to bring the worst and destroy the Clans with their power. This era ends with the Great Battle

- Recovery Era: Dovewing's Silence & Bramblestar's Storm take place during this time, where the Clans are trying to decide how to deal with the DF trainees and the loss of a good chunk of their Clanmates. Two new rules are added to the code during this time. One for dealing with DF trainees and Bramblestar's rule about helping the Clans

Period Six

- Return of SkyClan Era: covers all of AVoS, Hawkwing's Journey, and Tigerheart's Shadow. The Kin stays for longer this time, Onestar and Darktail still die together but at the end instead, and Tree's mediator position is added to the code

- Longest Night/Cruel Season/Ashfur's Reign Era: begins with the long leaf-bare and ends with Bristlefrost's double death and the restructuring of the code

[that-one-loz-nerd]

Nintendo casually rewriting pieces of the timeline while us fans go insane pulling at our hair trying to figure out how it could all work

[bonefall]

Just imagining the end of the final battle and everyone is just staring down a ranting and raving tigerstar while all the clans (and starclan!) watch. Then suddenly as it goes quiet you just hear “excuse me. Pardon me. Scusey let me through please” And finally stepping out of the throng of cats is firestar. He takes one look at his lifelong enemy and goes “get ready to die again you dusty ass bitch!”

Firestar, looking at Blackstar and Iceheart, two cats he respects greatly, wiped out and bloody. Iceheart is smiling feebly but with deep love. Blackstar is wincing in pain and embarrassment.

Firestar shakes his head, "You really make a mess of things, Tigerstar. What's even the point of this?"

"The point?! The point is to destroy everything you ever loved, if I can't fix the Clans, I'll tear down as much of it as my claws can cut!"

"That's so very, very sad."

"...I- what?!"

"I think you've spent your whole afterlife thinking about me, Tigerstar. You had four strong children, two of them wanted to know you so badly they visited you in hell, you ruled the Dark Forest and have done something no cat has ever been able to do before, and probably never will again... and you haven't been able to enjoy a single accomplishment."

"I enjoyed watching you die, and I'll enjoy watching you die again!"

"...even now, Tigerstar. You've beaten some of the most powerful warriors the Clans have ever known, and you're still only looking at me."

"Enough! You think you can shame me with your drivel, but I am a warrior! I live for battle and exacting my revenge on my enemies, and I've gotten it against these weaklings. But you?! I'm going to shred you the way I should have done the first day Bluestar dragged you away from your soft kittypet home."

Firestar sighs and dips his head. Tigerstar has youth in his muscle and no gray flecks on his muzzle, but he is old. Truly, truly old, "Your ideas are outdated. The world has become a better place without you in it," he slips into the comfortable crouch that was taught to him many years ago, when he was just an apprentice in the sandy hollow, "By the Stars above, by the Clans below, and by the power their love invests in me, Tigerstar, I will take you out again!"