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marengogo · 1 month ago

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So i have seen many jkkrs say that jkkrs and Tkkrs are the same yet at the same time they say that jkkrs needs to stop or they would become like tkkrs after some yrs so which one is it exactly? Are jkkrs nd Tkkrs same or not yet?

I have a question for you, so over the yrs i had shit experience with armys, i know someone who's got harassed by armys to the point of stalking them for month long. Although my own experience is not as bad but yeah it was hardly ever pleasant. So can i go ahead and and generalize armys and say armys are a shit Fandom? I mean there's too many ppl that has been harassed by armys even the celebraties because of which they even fear to mention BTS cause they don't wanna get dragged by armys and that's ig the most feared Fandom even by BTS's frnds. The fear comes from harassment. So do i get to say the whole Fandom is shit? Or can i say it's same as the hateful bp fans? Do i say there's no difference between armys and any other Fandoms who harass ppl online?

Another question is why are ppl expected to like all 7 members? I hardly vibe with celebrities so anyone expecting me to love 7 celebrities suddenly is something i can't do. I mean it's not because i don't want to it's simply because i don't vibe with each one of their personalities and even their artistry. Some members might have personality traits that i don't like and their music is also not my type so why am i expected to like them? What remains there for me to like about them? Am i not allowed to like ppl based on my choice, interest? If ppl are ot2, ot4 etc etc why do others immediately assume you're anti of other members? I mean as long as i ain't hating on any members online how am i an anti??

I saw some discussion about these things and of course I know you're aware of that too so i wanted to ask someone about these things cause i genuinely find it unfair to generalize ppl and expect everyone to like everyone when as a human many ppl literally dislike besties of their siblings etc so this expectation is something that doens't sit right with me. I know ppl say it's said by BTS but again i know for a fact that all members know they all have solos and as long as you're not shit talking about any members I'm sure they would be fine. In chapter 2 all members have gained their own solo fans and in future as well if they try something in diff fields like acting n all they'd again gain solo fans who won't always love all members and I'm pretty sure all members are aware of that.

I'd love to know ur opinion on this. English is like my 3rd language so my vocabulary is limited so sorry if things sound rude or something but it's a genuine question where I'm expecting a genuine answer and not a sarcasm. Hope u understand.

Hello there, my English-Is-Not-My-First-Language Anon,

As a person who speaks Japanese, another European language, and is learning Korean, your command of the English language is excellent, and in all honesty, I’d say that it no longer requires you to apologise in my opinion. I used to apologise a lot while speaking Japanese the first years, but now I feel like that makes me look disingenuous, so I’ve stopped.

Also, one last thing before I reply to your ask, I’m giving you a pass because I am hoping your tone was lost in translation, as you said, but, for future reference, do not tell me what and what not to do, okay? You are coming to my page with a grammatically correct, but tone-deaf essay, so if I give you sarcasm, sass and savageness, it is because I usually match the tone I am presented. But once again, I’ll take it easy on you.

TIP💡: If you don’t want to sound confrontational words like please, should, would, could go a long way. Like the I’d love to know you used is 👌🏾, but expectations usually come off as rude when you are requesting something from someone.

Let’s begin with your J1kookers vs T4ekookers question. If you have some time please do read my Shipping & All It’s Shades posts, it will explain quite detailedly where I stand on this. I wrote this in 2022 and back then I didn’t realise that the answer to my ??? was quite simple, which is; I’m not a shipper.

You see, with them, it is always a competition. One day a toxic T4ekooker will find out that JK smiled at Tae at a different 45 degree angle than he does to other members, so then toxic J1kookers will prove that in fact he does smile at 90 degree angle but only with JM … and so on and so forth. These competitions become really nasty at some point and they always leave me thinking: do they even really care?

If they did care, they wouldn’t care about what JK does with Tae, or what JM does with Yoongi, etc … they’d just want to cherish JK & JM’s bond and hope that if needed one day, they could be of support. From where I stand, the majority of T4ekookers and an increasing minority of J1kookers, just use the Maknae line as pawns in an imaginary love-war they’ve created and are each desperately trying to win, so I don’t really care for either.

If I may also candidly add, I am giving you answers based on the same information you supposedly have, so I’d hope you are not waiting on me to tell you “J1kookers are not as bad as T4ekookers, follow them!”, cause nah, that ain’t me bro. Please reach your own conclusions, just like you did on the rest of the post.

Moving on to said rest of the post; I don’t own you. If you want to generalise and say that AMI are pisses of shit, that they are just as bad as bl1nks, or whatever worse thing you can think of, you go on ahead and do that. If every experience you’ve had with 0T7 AMI was hazardous and you’ve made your conclusions, it is a bit nonsensical for you to come to me, an OT7 AMI, for permission to dislike, don’t you think? You don’t need permission to dislike and I am not going to beg you to like me. That being said, FYI, I have never once harassed anyone on the world wide web and don’t plan to either, but that is just me, one AMI in a sea of thousands of AMIs.

In fact, there are presently 48.5 million people following the BTS’ Blue Bird account. How many do you think are AMI? How many are just GP? How many are just antis and solos keeping tabs? Let’s say that only 1/10 are AMI, that would make it 4.9 million people; did you get to interact with all 4.9 million people to conclude that AMI are BAD? If so please let me know, cause technically you’d have to exclude me from that, as this is the first time we are interacting, and I don’t think I’m harassing you.

By the way, fun fact, I am also not too fond of many Blue Bird AMI myself, but if you go on B4NGTANTV they have 79 million subscribers, which is at least another 20 million people to keep into account, or if you want to only consider 1/10, it would be 2 million which … I don’t know about you but … generalising over millions is tough, still doable, because you did have your bad experiences, which we are not going to discredit, but … it’s a lot of people to mass all together under the one label “BAD”, don’t you think? But once again, it is your right to think as you will, feel and/or need.

Last but absolutely not least, why are ppl expected to like all 7 members? I can’t speak for every AMI, but me, I don’t need anyone to like all 7 members, that’s why biases exist, but I do expect for people to at the very least respect all 7, which is why solos shouldn’t exist. This is a band that was literally presented to you thank to the blood, sweat and tears of K1m N4mjoon, K1m Se0kjin, M1n Y0ongi, Jun9 H0seok, P4rk J1min , K1m T4ehyung and Je0n Jungk0ok. In more than one occasion they have expressed the importance they have to each other and how important it is for them to still be a team even while doing solos activities.

So you don’t have to like member x but you should respect the fact that without him, and all the others, your fave would not be here in his present capacities. In the same way that without your fave, none of the other members would be here in their present capacities either. I am not asking anyone to go around waving a Y0ngi Marry Me flag, if you don[t like him, but when he is in need of help I would appreciate your help, for the simple fact that without him there is no 875 and without 875 our boys would probably not bounce back very well. They’d each be super successful, sure, some more than others, guaranteed, but would they be happy? Would they be mentally and emotionally okay?

Solos, just like shippers, are a cancer waiting to spread, and some of them don’t even realise that. Many of them become solos because they resent AMI for something they might have said and done to the member they like, so such sentiments, in no way can be the result of anything healthy. AMI is not perfect, never was, and never will be, but we are the fandom they named, so we are the voices they will listen to mainly. So for the most part, we have to be strong and push through many a time, because I know that when they need to reach me, they are not going to look for me within their solo fans, but within AMI, even when nowadays hate tweets get up to a whopping 120k likes which is A LOT, but it is still not even close to 1 million.

As you rightly said the members know that they have solos fans, on different occasions they have referred to AMI & fans during their chapter two. Yet when they introduce themselves, they are always and still Member x of 875, aren’t they? If you want to find information about your fave on WEVERSE, you are still going to click on the BTS community, don’t you? In contrast, J3nnie from bp has a page all for herself, even though bp are supposedly still together.

Doesn’t this kinda makes you think that, if anything, being together as a group is important to each of them? So if it is important to each of them, shouldn’t this be important enough for us as well? At least important enough to have us respect their decision to be still considered a unit, while still pursuing solo global domination? Once again, you don’t have to like them, but you should respect them, all seven of them.

And that's it from me. I hope I’ve answered all your questions satisfactorily. I have nothing else to add, but if I could make a wish for you, I wish you find the good side of AMI, it is easier to find them IRL to be honest, the world wide web is full of people wearing so many masks, you really can’t be sure of who you are talking to. When I first got into 875 I did it by myself. Watched RUN BTS by myself with reactors on YT, researched the albums by myself, watched lives by myself while checking live translation on the Blue Bird app, where to this day I don’t actually interact, just watch and get information and screenshot 😬🤡.

Then I came here and I was blessed enough to find 3 people whom I adore, but I didn’t set off with the intention of befriending AMI, to this day they are actually the only AMI I talk to, I am not in GCs and don’t really care to be either. I am a bit of a lone wolf. So good luck Anon, I mean it, wherever you can, please be open minded and try to use critical thinking as much as possible, and even better, if you can, don’t let a few stains ruining the big picture.

Always respectfully yours 💜🫰🏾,

Marengo.

#ASK #Of Solos Shippers & Tannies

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thoughts-on-bangtan · 1 year ago

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Taehyung's beautiful "Rainy Days" (Song Analysis)

*taps mic* is this thing on?

Well...it's been a while, hasn't it? We've been silent but we are still very much around, still listening to the Tannie's music, watching all the content, still loving vmin and namjin, we watched all streamable D-Day concerts, the Disney+ movies, all of it, we've just basically been keeping our ARMY time to ourselves.

But then came Tae.

But then came Rainy Days. And we were lured back here to scream a little at what we've gotten.

And yes, before the inevitable anons come to try and discredit everything in this post, yes we are aware that (so far) Tae doesn't have any writing credits on the songs on Layover, Love Me Again and Rainy Days. But try as you might, no one can ignore just how vmin coded Rainy Days is and how specific some of the references are. Everyone picked up on it, regardless if they were a vminie, OT7 non-shipper, or even a xkooker. Posts crying about and pointing toward Park Jimin being the one were everywhere and honestly, I've missed moments like there.

So, Rainy Days, huh, let's talk about the vmin references, shall we?

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First of all, can we talk about just how gorgeous and atmospheric Rainy Days is? And how very Taehyung it is? Because it just fits him truly so perfectly, just like Love Me Again does. I love how the soft mellowness of the song contrasts with the brutalistic architecture of the building shown in the MV, the old-school iMac, and the little Pomeranian acting as Yeontan. I did get tricked into thinking it was Yeontan until Tae did his live and told us, nope, that's Rocky, a doggy looking very close to how Yeontan does since he couldn't travel with Tae. We know Yeontan has health issues, so I should've guessed as much, but either way, it is absolutely adorable how much love for Yeontan is in Tae's debut as solo artist. Find you someone that'll love you as much and as deeply as Tae loves Yeontan. I'll wait.

I love the use of the iPhone sounds within the song, the notification tone as well as the typing sound, though it isn't very fitting (it also reminds me of vmin, how they enjoy FaceTiming, texting and calling each other) for someone who was the Samsung Galaxy ambassador ha ha. Wonder what Yoongi had to say about that.

But moving along to the lyrics, as well as two moments from the MV itself, there are a few vmin references that are hard to ignore. And they were "obvious" enough that basically everyone picked up on them.

The first little thing, and this one could very well be a reach, is this Little Prince/Jimin connection. In the MV Tae falls asleep watching TV and we're shown clips of a fox and a flower which immediately made everyone think of the fox and flower from the Little Prince, and then also the moment in the first season of In the Soop when Tae and Hobi went on their little trip and spotted a mural/poster for the Little Prince. Adorable.

Then in the second verse we have Tae singing the following line:

We can start again, open all the doors

The mention of doors made me perk up because it instantly reminded me of this line in Sweet Night:

That I still hope the door is open

So it feels like, if Rainy Days really is a vmin song, it would either play before Sweet Night, or after, when something came between them but Tae wanted a second chance, still had a hope that they could be together and that all things aren't lost yet.

Now this, who do we know basically laughs at anything and everything Tae says, who has mentioned time and again that Tae is the funniest, like in one of the RUN episodes he mentioned how Tae had been making him laugh all day as well's throughout the filming? That's right, our boy Jimin.

Don't believe me? Well, check out this thread and see for yourself.

Next we have the line:

You're my four-leaf clover

Do I really need to explain this one? In a BB or memories DVD, I don't remember exactly, we had a moment when Tae was looking for a four-leafed clover and Jimin, to surprise and make him happy, went and acted as though he'd found one for it (though it wasn't a real four leaf one) which made Tae happy anyway. Years later for their performance of HOME, standing in front of what appeared to be a reference to the Mirror or Erised, we saw vmin wearing matching four-leaf clover necklaces with Tae appearing next to Jimin as though he was what Jimin's heart desired the most.

Then in the MV we have a scene where Tae is in some kind of art room creating. Eventually he picks up a baguette, which points for originality, and uses it to paint a Vante art piece showing a painting that looks like an alien with its little antennas. And who reclaimed the alien "nickname" just a few years and and who is basically the only one who can still call him that? Exactly. Jimin.

Speaking of whom, further in the lyrics we get this line:

Those hurtful words

And sure, perhaps I'm delulu and reaching, whatever, let me have fun, but still that line reminded me of something. FESTA 2020 where Jimin spoke about how he was sorry for the things in the past, how they were buddies back then (I'm still waiting for him to elaborate on that one, they were buddies back then so, Jiminie, what are you now? Care to share?) and got into a lot of disagreements and how he now feels sorry for the harsh words he used with Tae. And Harsh words can very much be hurtful. So another potential reference?

At the end of the day, as I mentioned before, Tae doesn't have writing credits on Rainy Days but, as you just read, those things just fit a little too well to be just a coincidence, right? So perhaps, just like they'd done with Chingu years prior, maybe Tae sat down with the producers/lyricist and told them what he wants in the song?

And that would be it. We're both extremely excited for the rest of Layover, for the next 3 (!!!) MVs, and all the promo Tae mentioned he has planned (based on ideas and things he saw ARMY had mentioned wishing for) and if he'll have writing credits on any of the songs. But it is a little strange to me how Tae has been so outspoken about working on and writing songs for his mixtapes for years, how he'd shown us snippets from his songs, and yet now as we are getting his debut album, no writing credits (so far). Guess we shall wait and see.

#taehyung #vmin #jimin #v layover #v rainy days #lyric analysis #bts v #Youtube

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taekooktimeline · 1 year ago

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Approximately June 7-8, 2023 (filmed), September 8, 2033 (released):

Tae is in Spain filming his MVs for his solo debut album “Layover.” On Sept 8, “Slow Dancing,” his main track, was released. During the instrumental part of the song, when Tae freestyle dances, we see him dancing on a utopian dream beach with friends, and with Gof in his actual reality (more on that below). A lot have pointed out Gof looks like Jungkook in the MV.

I’m not interested in analyzing music these days, as was done when the blog first opened. However, I do think this is important to archive because of the brilliant and creative ways Tae conveyed his message + the fact that so many think Gof looks like Jk in the MV. Please consider this piece speculative / theory. With that in mind, here are two YouTube reactions where it was asked out loud if Gof was Jk.

YouTube reaction 1, when two of the three asked:

YouTube reaction 2:

Asking if Jk (1):

https://x.com/kv_borahae_life/status/1700482865564434669?s=46&t=StSwHjW0_Domk_lHUFMaCg

https://x.com/philtaetos/status/1700464525210689770?s=46&t=StSwHjW0_Domk_lHUFMaCg

Asking if Jk (2):

https://x.com/kv_borahae_life/status/1700510529805238413?s=46&t=StSwHjW0_Domk_lHUFMaCg

Someone on Tik Tok, who isn’t a shipper, also asked.

https://x.com/koosyoyo/status/1700621810059153767?s=46&t=StSwHjW0_Domk_lHUFMaCg

As quite a few noticed, there are a lot of queer coded vibes in this MV + “where the wild things are references.” First, the cast is from the same agency queer artist Sam Smith has utilized. Once again, Tae is supporting people of the community!

https://x.com/sweetpurpletk/status/1700354798653255988?s=46&t=StSwHjW0_Domk_lHUFMaCg

And here are some of the amazing and beautiful people cast: Sergio Pérez (Sergio Afro), Bryan Montero, Quique Muro Lopéz and Febo (I don’t have the name to the fifth person) -

CT below for four of the the five: https://x.com/marifenes/status/1700124760129077270?s=46&t=StSwHjW0_Domk_lHUFMaCg

In the MV, we discover Tae is a mad scientist that has created an alternate reality.

He creates an alternate reality on the beach, which represents a utopia for him, where he can be free and happy to express himself (which can be gleaned from the start, when his photo with friends only shows himself).

But what’s interesting is the Jk and Yeontan (Tannie) look alike are not at the beach utopia he’s created. They’re part of his actual reality, both at the same building. They’re the only ones that are part of his real life, while his beach friends are creations of his imagination. The Jk look alike is part of his past, only appearing when Tae created the dances in his home. Tae wanted to recreate those past memories of dancing with him in his dream utopia. I really think he’s conveying a hope, yearning and goal for freedom. And I really think it’ll happen.

Theories can be found at these links:

https://x.com/kv_borahae_life/status/1700367522955178164?s=46&t=StSwHjW0_Domk_lHUFMaCg

https://x.com/jjkthvsoloera/status/1700067528079266152?s=46&t=StSwHjW0_Domk_lHUFMaCg

https://x.com/koosyoyo/status/1700192767077658906?s=46&t=StSwHjW0_Domk_lHUFMaCg

https://x.com/00requiem/status/1700004910429839432?s=46&t=StSwHjW0_Domk_lHUFMaCg

You can read more on the “where the wild things are” linkage here:

https://x.com/shallwedancetk/status/1700103730186571947?s=46&t=StSwHjW0_Domk_lHUFMaCg

Raw (time stamp 2:20) https://youtu.be/eI0iTRS0Ha8?si=brrC_nvYGMtYfFmE

Also, I may as well archive this while I’m at it! In his “Rainy Days” MV, the hoodie in Tae’s bed is a men’s hoodie😀

Raw - https://youtu.be/yTsINmrAK4I?si=8CJC3OZ2GtMF1i9o

#taekooktimeline #taekook #2023 #supportive #lgbtq #Spain

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beautifulpersonpeach · 11 months ago

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Oh, if people are still submitting their toxic Tae asks, I actually do think he might occasionally purposefully rile shippers (not every time or even most of the time he’s accused, just sometimes, and I think he might do it with other members too, he even riles jkkrs up by posting jkk sometimes) but I don’t think he’s malicious about it or trying to incite the really hardcore truthers. I don’t think it’s that deep, and clearly it doesn’t hurt or bother any of the other members because they’re all obviously on good terms + you would have to accuse some of the others of doing the same thing sometimes, like JK was clearly in on that FaceTime photo being posted, some of Namjoon’s comments on JKs lives, and Jimin posted tkk hugging with their cheeks smushed so… Plus, tkk have undoubtedly become very good friends and spent a lot of time together this year, so it’s just obvious he would post and talk about him more than other members. But I do think there might have been a handful of times where Tae purposefully riled up his shippers a bit (I think he knows ARMYs like hearing about other members and doesn’t always know what to talk about on lives too, so he's more likely to mention others), but I don’t really think it’s a big deal, and I think he’s obviously just kind chaotic about other things as well when he’s in the mood. Probably toxic and a hot take because I see people either thinking he’s completely innocent and oblivious or 100% manipulative evil about it.

Ask 2:

It boggles my mind how people can watch Taehyung during his solo career so far and think he doesn't care about Yeontan because he didn't post a picture before his enlistment. This man put Tannie on his cds, on his merch, in his music videos, and in his promo.

Ask 3:

My goodness bpp, the avalanche of tae hate is just crazy,,, kinda tells you the current state of certain sections of the fandom,,, Just makes me sad, ngl

OK, I need to vent, I need to get it out of my system, I have been holding it in and but just can't anymore!!!! I hate Hate HATE Jimin's mullet in Like Crazy!!!!!!!!!! I mean Jimin looks beautiful in mullets. He was fabulous in mullets before! He's gorgeous in anything. He was godsend in Set me free pt2! They have the same base hair! just styled differently!!! why Why WHY did like crazy mullet have that weirdly straight sorta-tapered sorta-not shape around his beautiful neck?!!? The back of the head could've been wavy or curbed out or fuller or shorter or longer! WHY did it have to be THAT specific length and THAT specific shape all immortalized in the MVs for the world to see forever and ever?!?!? This like crazy era hairstyle breaks my heart,,, WHY?????????

Ask 4:

BPP how aren't you sick of all the Tae takes yet? It baffles me how people can fixate on the most minute details of Tae's actions FOR MONTHS. Is this normal? Is it mentally healthy? I realize the irony asking you since I'm a joker myself but a lot of people here sound kinda crazy. It can't be healthy to hate Tae so intensely for so long while victimizing Jimin. Just thinking about it makes me itch.

Ask 5:

I agree that Jkkrs used to be like the sunny part of this fandom's shipping in comparison to Tkkrs, and I've felt it change in the last year, but tbh it can never be compared to Tkkrs. I saw this when the blurry video of Jk dropped, especially here on tumblr.

I read many rational discussions on the topic and many Jkkrs (me included) accepted the fact that Jikook may not be exclusive/may have had sth in the past but are not together now (I'm of this opinion although the military thing has started my deluluness again and I'm leaning towards the belief that they may be something more than friends even today), and it was a breath of fresh air to see how many Jkkrs didn't just bluntly dismiss it was him (I mean we still don't know for sure if it was or not, but you shouldn't exclude all options bc they don't fit your narratives) - sth I haven't seen with Tkkrs (starting with the Taennie video and then Jk's) - on the contrary, I've seen them become more unhinged than ever.

So there are crazy shippers on both part, as well as the rational ones, but still, whenever I think of Tkk shippers, I get the ick as they give me such cult-like vibes (and this has nothing to do with Tae and Jk themselves).

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(These asks were buried under an avalanche of other asks hence the delayed posting. These asks are related to the toxic asks series yesterday)

I'm seeing recurring themes in many points made here, some I agree with and others I don't.

#jikook #toxic quick asks

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dearweirdme · 1 year ago

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jimin posting the taekook strip of photos when he's not even in them, those are his babies for real🥺🥺

they're all so adorable tho, seeing any of the tannies together in a photo really makes me so happy the entire day, fuck sokor for taking them away from me😭

also jungkook's face while tae is practically trying to fuse into him lol, that's his baby🥺 and the photo with his muscles and tattoos out and tae fangirling over it is so cuteee

tae squishing jimin and jk against him, namjoon's cute poses, can't believe people seriously say any of the tannies hate each other, they're literally all in love with each other, jimin's whole ig is just him and his family bts like nothing solos and weirdo shippers say will ever be true, they're FAMILY!!!!

Hi anon!

Absolutely having similar feelings!

#members

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mimibwi · 7 months ago

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Why are you discoursing on shipping and shippers, admitting you're a shipper yourself and not committing to saying who you ship? Every shippers (and non-shippers) have biases and blind spots. Saying who you ship is an important disclaimer for readers to make informed opinions about what you're saying. for example the first post I saw of you I almost blocked you for saying taehyung was public enemy no1 to shippers. This is ludicrous to me considering although I recognize there are unfortunately an increase of Tae anti among shippers , it comes after years and years of tkkrs (kths and jjks too) sending the most virulent and violent hate to Jimin and spreading misinformation and smear campaigns about him daily on almost every platform. It is evident to me (who biases jimin) that the post I saw of you was not at all reflecting my personal experience and observations in the fandom. Now knowing your bias and your ship might help the conversation. Knowing where you're coming from and what your biases are could help ppl understand your posts better.

Hi anon!

Thank you for the ask. I guess this is fair criticism. It's something I've mulled over with myself for a while—whether or not I want who I ship to be known on this blog. Funnily enough, my most recent post was supposed to be the first on this blog and was initially meant to be an introduction to me and who I ship (I still have that version). But due to how volatile things were last year, I decided that I no longer wanted my blog to be specific to them but instead have a more general approach. I don’t want to be tied down as a person that only talks about x ship or even shipping alone. So my decision to not openly say who I ship was ironically a decision I made to have more open conversation. Then again, it’s not something I aimed to fully conceal either considering the name of my blog is a combination of their respective nicknames. I am and was always ready and willing to give up this information if anyone asked— kinda like you’re doing right now.

The post you mentioned was what ended up being the first on this blog and was honestly just my raw reaction to how events were playing out at the the time that I wrote it. It wasn't meant to be an overall look at the members being victims to shippers. In no way was I trying to imply that Taehyung has it worse than Jimin does and I think/hope me relating what was happening to the way Jimin was and still is treated showed that I acknowledged both as a problem.

As a vmin biased ARMY (and vminie), I think I drew one of the worse cards ever when it comes to my biases being hated on (and my ship being dismissed/looked down on). At any one point, if it isn’t akgaes (all the maknae line ones especially) then its the two other maknae line shippers or people from other fandoms completely. [do I have to disclaim that all the tannies get hate and me acknowledging the hate vmin gets isn’t me taking away from what the others get?]

Like you mentioned, every single person has biases (its also something I’ve stated here multiple times). My position as a vminie is what makes me oppose toxic shippers (and toxic solos) in almost every post I have on this blog as strongly as I do because I know that it’s possible to enjoy your ship in a relatively toxic free way and I also know what it’s like to have both of my biases slandered almost every day over things that, in the grand scheme of BTS and life in general, matter ZILCH.

It’s not very fun seeing the people you like being the center of this much negativity and in a way this is another reason I don’t really want to be blatant and preface everything I post here with that information. I know how people in this fandom work; if I was to do that, the “informed opinions” you mentioned are no longer going to be about the content of the post I put a lot of thought into but about other things— things that I decided to not be the focus of my discussions here.

Ultimately, I don’t think who I ship takes away from the main point that I’m trying to make with all my shipping posts here— shippers are way too secure in their ships which causes them to do and say things that are incredibly toxic and harmful to the members and fandom. This is what it will always boil down to when I'm talking about it. I do my best to be as objective as possible and as rational as possible with my opinions. So I’ll whack vminies if need be and I’ll defend ANY member or ship if I have to as well. TRUST.

[except for the fact that I’m not THAT active here and I take a while to decide how I want to say things😬]

Lastly, I get what you mean about wanting to understand my posts better by knowing my biases/ship but please don’t use it as an opportunity to assume you know exactly what I feel about things just because of who I ship. I’m never going to treat anyone who comes to me as “just an x shipper” and so I would respectfully prefer to not be dismissed as such either because I am, in the end, my own person.

~~🐝

I really hope I don’t have to deal with any “vminies exist?” or “bro Taehyung hates Jimin” in the future cause if I was defending Taekook before, trust that I’ll be on the front line for vmin’s friendship too. But like I said, these specifics really aren't what I want my conversations here to revolve around.

ᵐᶦᵐᶦ ⁺ ᵇʷᶦ ⁽ᵈᵒ ʸᵒᵘ ˢᵉᵉ ᶦᵗ ⁿᵒʷˀ⁾

#asks #jimin #taehyung #vmin #shippergate #all that work and what did it get me

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taehyungfirst · 1 year ago

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MAN i’ve been pretty on the fence about taehyung and jennie being real since the rumour originally started, mostly because it isn’t my business who he dates, and i just want him to be happy (also i’m a graphic designer/photo editor, and the original leaked photos had certain qualities that stood out as editing mistakes to me). i’ll be honest though, apart of me was relieved.. after he went to that possibly lgbt club in paris last summer, and all those photos he took with models came out, i noticed the speculation on his sexuality was at an all time high, and i was genuinely worried about him going to the military with those rumours surrounding him.. (to be clear, im lgbt myself, and would fully support him regardless of his sexuality, i just want him safe more than anything). but i feel like with every dating “update,” things become more and more WEIRD? we KNOW taehyung (and all the tannies) are extremely private regarding their personal lives, and they know HOW to be private. but it just seems like there is a steady influx of this dating content, and it somehow always coincides with blackpink’s activities (their comeback, the idol release, disbandment rumours..) and quite frankly, if jennie were posting the recent instagram photos as “confirmation,” i would think she and taehyung would’ve discussed it beforehand.. and i really don’t think taehyung would be okay with jennie posting those photos a day before jungkook’s first solo release, because i really doubt he would want his own dating life to be a distraction from his band mate’s accomplishment.. like we KNOW how important the rest of the tannies are to him.. this whole thing is just. really weird. i’d be more convinced they were dating if we hadn’t heard a peep since the first photo “leaks,” tbh. every time something new happens, i become less and less convinced this is a legitimate relationship.. and i’m not any kind of shipper haha, i am not actively looking for evidence to disprove this relationship. this whole thing is just… weird.

idk man. i’m not convinced either way, and it’s not my business who tae is dating (and i say this as someone who’s always liked blackpink and jennie, and wouldn’t have an issue with them actually dating). but the way this whole thing continues happening is just so, so strange, and i just worry about taehyung. i just hope he’s doing okay, regardless of what’s really going on. like. this is one HUNDRED percent me projecting also, and i’m aware of that, but in the celine photos that dropped right after the “hand holding pap walk,” he just… he looked like he was dealing with a lot. i just hope he’s okay.

venting here because i know you care about him and want him happy and safe too, so i thought you’d understand! thanks for letting me vent, haha.

wanna add to this that the articles abt yg, disbandment, and l//isa’s dating rumor disappeared and an article about tae and jennie just dropped straight to #1 trending… are we even surprised?

i agree with everything you said, all i want is him to be free from stalkers and from crazy narratives, i dont want his privacy invaded anymore and him being involved in companies tricks. all i care about is his safety his happiness and his artistry, thank you for sharing your thoughts anon! :)

#the celine picture made me so sad because he looked like he lost weight it was terrible #i just hope hes always fine #i actually don’t like that girl but this is before the whole rumor i have my reasons #have a good day whenever you wanna rant feel free #ask #taehyung

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justasopearchive · 2 years ago

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Just thoughts on chapter 2 and the boys…

TW: I would consider the following very…unpopular and maybe even a bit blasphemous in the Borahae world. But it’s just my thoughts and this entire Tumblr is just my little space to fangirl about BTS, Sope and the like.

I’ve been a BTS fan (I don’t consider myself ARMY, I think there are implications there around stanning and the general unhealthiness of these kinds of parasocial relationships…trust me, I see the hypocrisy of running a silly shipping Tumblr, I’m not perfect, just self-aware lol) for a while and while I have always loved the narrative BH pushes about “OT7,” and whatnot, comments like the one Hobi made during his birthday live really put things into perspective:

Nobody could reasonably expect all SEVEN them to remain super close, right? That’s just not a normal part of human progression. They all met when they were teenagers and spent the last decade together constantly trying to make it to the top.

And they did make it.

But I also realize that the narrative is just that…a narrative. Part of a very clever and very well planned-out image that helped solidify the Army/BTS bond. It was all seven “normal boys from Korea” and their massive fandom against the world. And, I believe in the early days, it was. Solo stans and toxic shippers definitely enhance these little relationship chasms for their own weird, delusional purposes (there are way too many QTs about J*ngkook leaving BH or how he only sees Tae, blah blah blah—when, best I can tell, Kook is tired and an introvert, he’s been working nonstop since he was, what, 13 or 14? This is probably the longest time he’s been able to go with just being a human being with no obligations).

I think the tannies work well together; they had one common goal for over a decade and they love each other. But, I don’t think the way fans see them as a unit is how they are as a unit, outside of work, I think.

We all go weeks without seeing our friends and family, of course. And I do think they love each other, but even when it comes to Sope, a lot of what’s constructed is based on what’s on camera, which is all part of this narrative (I’ll always say Yoongs has, and has probably always had, a boy crush on Hobi).

Anyway, I’m interested to see how the remainder of chapter 2 plays out—and what happens come 2025 👀👀👀

#just a Sope archive thoughts

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alottamoney · 2 years ago

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From what I’ve seen it’s making a lot more buzz than last time, there’s a lot more articles being written, and from bigger publications.

Tae is also oddly quiet compared to how he usually is when outside SK.

Doesn’t seem like PR to me, because the timing is shit for Tae, just starting on his solo journey and already might lose a huge chunk of his fandom, especially if his Chinese fanbase drops him.

Who knows though, maybe shippers are actually right and they’ll reveal their relationship themselves while in NY, which is why they don’t care what that person is posting 🤷‍♀️

Yeah, Kpop PR relationships are not a thing. I don't know what you consider bigger publications, it's Dispatch or nothing lol. I'm personally just confused as to why all these articles are based on Twitter threads. Give us some insight at least, if you're hell bent on churning out articles😒. They don't need to wait for BH or YG to confirm, if Tannie are (private) Instagram official, I'm sure more people would know about it, people who are willing to talk to the press. Are those people also waiting for a big NY reveal?

Can't say anything about fans but fanbases won't drop him over this, there's a business side to them other than just blind adulation. But again, if Tae isn't particularly worried about losing fans or fanbases, I don't see why the rest of us need to worry.

#ask me things #taennie

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marengogo · 7 months ago

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… Now “Fans” don’t even know how to “properly” trend “world-saving activism” like I’m fucking tired

😩😩😩

HOT 100 of THOSE PRAYING FOR THE TANNIES’ DOWNFALL CHART!

1. 🟰 TWITTER BOYCOTTERS

2. NEW ENTRY! YOUTUBE BOYCOTTERS

3. NEW ENTRY! TIKTOK BOYCOTTERS

4. ⬆️ SOLOS

5. ⬇️ ANTIS

6. 🟰 The Deranged Citizens of Verona (aka Toxic Shippers)

… How Exciting! THEY CAN ALL FUCK OFF

Marengo.

#ANYONE ESLE?…#FUCK ALL OF Y’ALL #PEOPLE WHO ARE LOST

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marengogo · 8 months ago

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LET IT BE KNOWN:

Unless it turns out that the Tannies are responsible for TW occurrences, there will be no anti, no solo, no deluded-shippers, no misguided-boycotter and no XXX-whatever (cause there still a long way to go to 2025…) who will stop me from being SAVAGE AS FUCK WITH MY LOVE FOR THE BOYS.

And I will be careful until the time they get to finally speak for themselves; 23 JUNE 2025. Until then, I will not speak for them on sensitive matters and do my part in appreciating and enjoying all they’ve worked hard on and left for us, because we were gonna be lonely because they could have just fucked off and said “I’m about to go through some though shit so please don’t expect shit” but they didn’t.

I’ve been around this life 3 times so far and the first 2 were enough to understand a thing or two. One of those things is that Karma never misses, even when it seems it does. So I’ll let Karma do their thing and I’ll do mine.

Until 23 JUNE 2025 I’ll be careful not to cause the boys any harm with my words while still being as supportive as ever. If there is one thing I can do while they are away, that’s the thing. What I won’t do in their absence is jump to conclusion, swim in assumption or take their decisions.

MAJOR MARENGO PET-PEEEVE that nobody asked: NO MATTER HOW WELL YOU THINK YOU KNOW ME DON’T SPEAK FOR ME. EVER.

That’s all.

Marengo.

PS - ARMY is a fandom, hence we all supposedly move following a common interest, which in this case is the love for a musical group. If there comes an instance in which we can’t all agree on a topic at hand, regardless of the topic, no single individual, or group within the fandom, can speak for the fandom. Unless we all agree for it to be so. This is basic common sense .

#BTS IN THE MILITARY #BTS ARMY #ANGRY MARENGO

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dearweirdme · 1 year ago

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https://www.tumblr.com/dearweirdme/720028222623973376/theres-this-ig-account-very-popular-rn-i-think-u

I agree. I usually have the same feeling about the so-called “insider” account. But I do see a post sharing her experience working with hybe. She said she once worked as a staff of BTS concert. But she applied for internal transfer to other team cuz the workload was too heavy lol And lately, she had been in the US for TXT ‘s tour. Anyways, her post was meant to share her personal but cute interactions with BTS and some internal info (eg something about Jimin’s solo progress, Tae’s reality show invitation long before it was announced, and also commenting on company’s policy about JK’s live, etc), and she never mentioned any ships. So, not a shipper account.

Not surprisingly, many people asked her about the Tannie rumor since last year and also the Paris rumor. She personally didn’t know anything about it, so she asked a more senior staff. In short, she said they were not dating based on what she heard, but she was not allowed to reveal the details about this rumor. However, she did say something interesting. Will the companies have an official announcement about the rumor? It depends on the result of the negotiation. She didn’t say the negotiation was between Tae and hybe or YG and Hybe, but I guess it’s between Tae and Hybe. Because she did say that Tae was targeted cuz he didn’t listen to the company very well and was a type that didn’t compromise easily.

This post might be a fake one too, but it gave me a vibe that this account is not bias to BTS, TXT or any members. And she doesn’t get followers cuz this is an anon post.

I guess we will never know if what she said was true or not. But if it is true, I can’t imaging how bad hybe treats Tae.

Hi anon!

It’s hard for me to actually say much without knowing the account. But from what you tell me it still seems unlikely she actually has all information. It is possible they worked with BTS on some level and that is why she would have some stuff to prove her knowing the members. But companies usually work with levels of knowledge. If she was for instance a caterer on tour, she would be able to film one on one interactions with members, but she would not know anything of their future plans.

If she did actually work with them in a higher level of knowledge, it would also be clear to the company who she is by now. She would be in severe breach of contract (even if she no longer works with them). Hybe would sue the hell out of her and her account would be immediately suspended. What she’s sharing (if true) would be classified and sensitive information, Hybe would not let that pass, because they come out looking like the bad guy. Them not doing a thing about it makes me believe they treat it like any other imposter account.

Hybe not knowing about this account seems unlikely as well. In a company as huge as Hybe, with a band as big as BTS, there’s a whole team dedicated to asses fandom talk. They know what goes around in fandom. They are able to intervene when things don’t go their way.

So yeah, I’m still by no means convinced.

#anon #taekook #fandom shenanigans

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