#Odysseus being a rat bastard
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Do we think odysseus started pranking Athena and her temples at some point? Because I do. He argued that it was good for sneaking and evading training. And you know what Athena couldn't argue that. Her chasing odysseus across the island was good training.
#Odysseus#Athena#Epic the musical#Yes this does go along with my other post about how Athena is with odysseus vs. Telemachus#After the fourth time Athena yanked odysseus from his bed at 3 am to drop him into the depths of shark infested ocean#Odysseus didn't even bother going home or drying off once he swam back to shore#He grabbed multiple buckets and filled them with seaweed and sand and crabs and dumped them in the closest temple#The priests are actively sobbing begging throwing up sacrificing because athenas going to kill them#The locals are preparing for dooms day they're going to be cursed so so badly and it's their kings fault#This just in local 15 year old king was seen dumping sea stuff all over athenas temples muttering see how she likes it#The first time Athena was too stunned to do anything she honestly didn't think anybody has had this much audacity before#To desecrated her temples in just a way how would dare who would even think to do that#Odysseus her chosen human apparently#It is admittedly a little funny how freaked out everybody was...not that she would EVER tell odysseus that#It is also coincidentally FOR NO RELATED REASON SHE SWEARS that she slammes odysseus into the palace wall at full strength for the first ti#After all odysseus it's just training what's there to complain about#I might actually have to write out athenas and odysseus's wacky ātrainingā adventures#Odysseus being a rat bastard
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Like Odysseus is a pos, but not due to the fact that he was assaulted by two goddesses
Heās a pos due to his ego, yk
watching epic fans find out odysseus is a pos is actually hilarious
like āomg nooo hes so loyal thooooo hed never do that to penelopeā girly thats the source material he straight up canonically did that
#the odyssey#greek mythology#odysseus#circe#calypso#s.a#epic the musical#Odysseus is a flawed character guys#heās a rat bastard and I like him#but calling him a pos for being a rape victim???#like cmon#thereās sooo many other things that actually contribute how unhinged this dude#and how much he loves his family#heās multidimensional
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I saw something that said that if Odysseus had to choose between himself VS. Penelope and Telemachus he'd always choose himself. How he'd be miserable and he would try to weasel his way out of it but if it really was no other option he'd still do it and...
Odysseus is an incredibly selfish man, that's not wrong. And he definitely has his cruel streak. But his whole thing is his unconditional devotion and loyalty to his family while basically being a rat bastard to everyone else. He literally puts himself in danger for them multiple times, even just in their NAME multiple times.
But this is the same man who pretended to be INSANE for at least a MONTH so he wouldn't have to leave them. I guess you could say it's because he's a coward or because of the prophecy but if he didn't care he wouldn't have saved his son. But even with all that, to have a mad king? That leaves your kingdom vulnerable. There could've been a fucking usurping. Ithaca doesn't have much fertile land and yet he destroys some of it. Even then in some versions, it's him literally running to scoop up his baby, "hearing thundering hooves past his head". Putting himself in danger in multiple ways as SAVING HIS SON MEANT HE WAS GOING TO WAR. WAR ISN'T SOMETHING YOU CAN GUARANTEE THAT YOU'LL COME BACK FROM.
EVEN IN THEIR NAMES, HE PUTS HIMSELF IN DANGER FOR THEM. Calypso asks what is so lovely about his wife that makes him not want her, a beautiful goddess. Said goddess has been abusing him for years yet he still says that he will ALWAYS go back to them putting himself at risk just DEFENDING Penelope and he's literally dragged back to her grotto immediately after. He even tells her the only way he would stop trying to get to them is if he were dead.
He is deeply hurt by her rejection but even then HE ASKS FOR A SEPARATE BED. He calls her cruel and stubborn and he's tearing up but he never threatens her despite her rejection could literally end bad for him. Paris for example, after Helen rips into him about how Menelaus was the better man and warrior who didn't back down, he basically tells her "Hey! You should be happy your husband's alive! ...Get in the bed."
Like??? he puts them first often, even if it means his own discomfort!!!
I don't think he would let Penelope or Telemachus suffer so he would be free. That feels like the fucking Tele-GONE-y to me. You can keep his "rat bastardness" there because if he was for example, being dragged to Hades or something, he'd give Penelope a look and they'd probably have a plan for him to get out ĀÆ\_(ć)_/ĀÆ He's sometimes said to be the son of Sisyphus. Who's to say he wouldn't do that as well? And if it was him "doomed to eternal damnation". He'd be trying the whole time to get back to them. (that'd...honestly be a perfect punishment for him.)
Idk, They're selfish about practically everything but each other
#no offense to this individual but that just... didn't feel right. They're both deeply fucked but they're fucked up in how they would burn#everything down for each other. For their son? Even more so#... it was first this post. then had the fucked up headcanon to write and now I'm writing a shitty fucked up fic :'D#Mad rambles#shot by odysseus
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having a blorbo in greek mythology and epics is like the ancient world version of realizing the tv show had a different writer for the one episode your critter was wildly out of character and everyone is like "oh that's so them!" ??? did we watch the same show? helen of troy/sparta is a slut no wait she is a perfect woman no no she is a flawed human being no hold on she's a woman making her way in a man's world wait no she is the archetypal victim no wait-
not coincidentally i am reading madeline miller's the song of achilles for the first time and odysseus just showed up halfway through and odysseus'ed across the page so hard he made me fall in love with him all over again. achilles/patroclus is some foundational tragic queer romance, yeah i respect that, but odysseus. the laughing snake that tricks you into forgetting he is always ready to bite. my man
i bet he is a tricky character to write well but as long as he falls somewhere on the wile e. coyote <--> bugs bunny spectrum he is probably in character. because his character is to be tricksily varied. is he just a dude trying to get home? is he a larger than life hero? a rat bastard nobody can trust? the one male in hellas with a working brain who doesn't listen only to his dick or his overinflated ego? a wifeguy (positive)? a wifeguy (negative)? athena's special boy in this generation (telemachus and orestes wiping their noses on their blankets still)? or her latest mortal hackeysack, legs blurring in a looney tunes run between zany schemes, just a bit faster than the other doomed shmucks? all are intensely valid interpretations and go all the way back to homer 2800 years ago. incredible.
someone in the book is making fun of odysseus for bragging about how much he likes the ship, fresh from ithaca!! penelope modeled for the figurehead!!! he gets to see her while they're apart!!!! and that's why i set the book down for a minute. hgn. hdmahflshsk. odysseus sweetie pie i hope you still like it twenty years from now. the ghosts of my middle school english notes defining "dramatic irony" scream in ecstasy from the great beyond
#odysseus#the odyssey#the iliad#the song of achilles#madline miller#athena#helen of troy#helen of sparta#greek myths#greek gods#greek mythology#tagamemnon#do people still use tagamemnon?#orestes#telemachus#penelope of ithaca#dramatic irony#homer (the bard)#achilles#patroclus
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I got tagged by the lovely @crownedinmarigolds! Thank you so much mate!! I'm absolutely charmed š„°
Now my rat bastard spouse stole most of my tagging options on their post so to not double-tag I will add:
@skaerdir, @klaciate, @tzimizce and @vamp-orwave!!
If anyone who sees this wants to be an honourary tagee, then go for it XD
For those who don't know - Hi I am Alex! (He/They) and I'm a writer and an English immigrant to the USA!
3 ships: oh mate all of these are OCxOC with @c-n-i-d-a-r-i-a-n
Victor and Gloria ā A Nos and his unbound Ghoulfriend. Making your touchstone one of your mission Ghouls is dangerous af but live fast love hard, lads.
Jeff and Lamb ā Another of Vic's unbound Ghouls and the Thin Blood Nos that joined the Warren. Disgustingly fucking cute injected into the den of the rejected and disgruntled.
Ventan/Taakur Rig and Rozanin Rig ā My and Daz's SWTOR PCs respectively. A Chiss Cipher Agent that ends up having to go hide with his Mandalorian hireling with her Clan and Roz's unrequited love becomes hella requited and suddenly Ventan/Cipher Five-now-Taakur has step kids??
I love it so much.
first ship: Oh god this takes me back to being little. Probably a Sonic one??
Shadow and Rouge if I had to take a guess??
last song: Temptation by Sean Paul! A proper bop
But honestly massive shout out to the second Nostalgia Synthwave mix by Odysseus on youtube
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This thing keeps me sane, and has all the songs marked! ā that opening one, Realign by Cerulean, can usually just melt my brain into peace whenever I hear it
last film: Snatch ā Like VTMB it's a problematic fave that oozes style and characterisation throughout. Watched it as prep for a Setite I'm going to play in a V5 game >:D
currently reading: Altered Carbon by Richard Morgan as part of genre research. Finished The Vampyre recently too! Really I should pick AC up today, I've been working hard on my editing and outlining of my own pieces and neglecting the reading part of the craft for a few weeks >.>;
currently craving: So I'm drinking far less booze to save money whilst I'm out of work trying to get some Proper Writing done. So when I hit a good worthy milestone I'm getting a bottle of whiskey and I am ready.
fav color: Green! Sometimes purple!
relationship status: Maaarriiied to @c-n-i-d-a-r-i-a-n
last google search: I had to double check the spelling of Taakur for the ship section, so it was 'mandoa' :')
and before that I'm pretty use I searched Scryfall last night to go look at MTG cards even though I have no one to play with right now :'D (at least it's saving me money >.>)
current obsessions: Was tempted to add my own work here but I'll tag that on the very end XD
There's a lot of fandoms I don't leave ā World of Darkness and Warhammer 40k predominantly as settings I always have another angle I want to see explored in!
I do however have the Magic the Gathering bug, even though I haven't really played in years and years now ā but card interaction as a generation for narrative has always kind of captivated me? Like there's a couple big mean Ogre cards that make Rats more dangerous, but due to the way the systems work they also empower the Ratfolk of Kamigawa, the Nezumi, as they count as 'Rat' cards still. So big Ogre spellcasters improving Rat people as part of a contained bit of narrative kind of fascinates me as a concept.
Plus each deck presupposes a Planeswalker character who's casting those spells ā and I was always intrigued by that notion and so most of my OCs are representative of decks I played (or wanted to :P) and then in turn each Planeswalker needs a Plane to come from, probably from a still existing culture on that Plane too, and so it can kind of wonderfully reverberate inspiration.
Like how every VTM Kindred OC presupposes a Sire!
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So if you want to get to know me, let me tell you about what writing I'm working on/have made recently.
Out now!
The Mutilation of Finley Reid
A short story of masculine horror, about a young man by the name of Finley who suffers in the pursuit of having his place as a man affirmed by his peers.
The world of Torranham Nights is an anachronistic reflection of England set in the coastal city state of Torranham, drawing from contemporary culture and folklore as well as the legends and reality of the cultures that came before ā without being fetishistic about it like a lot of stories will.
Handle It
A short retail horror, about working the cash register of a butcher's counter, and the customer who orders increasing amounts of ground beef...
Inspired by my own work in a same spot, anyone who's done service work should get a kick out of this ā plus it's free and only takes 20 minutes to read! XD
On the way!
Defector ā name subject to change
A short story of grief, shame, suicidal ideation, alcoholism, and community. On the moon.
A Special Recon mech pilot, āCrashā, from Earth has defected to the Moon rebels, and now lives in Magnolia City, rotting away in her tiny apartment. Then the Provisional Government sends one of its elite commanders, a former enemy of Crash's, to pull her out.
Elhart: Arrival
The first of a short story fantasy anthology about a city of refugees at the edge of time and space, hiding from the end of the multi-planar universe. A super soldier has washed up with a near-fatal headwound and no memory, and she must learn to live in a far more peaceful world than the one her instincts suggest she came from. But who was she? And can she earn the trust of people who fear her potential to kill?
Neon Sun
A novel! Cyberpunk Vampires! If we're mutuals you can come ask about this but I'm not ready to share things too publicly for this one yet, but the outlining has gone beautifully in my opinion, and the worldbuilding is singing.
Speartip
I'm making a TTRPG!! It's a Powered by the Apocalypse engine game, about serving as the primary field agents of a faction of people who need your support and protection. Because if you're going to be a hero, who are you doing it for if not your kin?
Setting agnostic as hell, excluding some implicit need for magic in the class moves ā I'm prepping to playtest this in sci-fi and fantasy settings to see how well my mechanics hold up in both swords and firearms based stories. Plus I'm going to explore a variety of perspectives of what the faction can be ā from ethnic groups, to gangs, to guilds, to neighbourhoods.
I'm VERY excited about all this!!
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10-15 for emil n odesa
Two blorbos with terrible main character energy
10) How does your OC handle their mental health? Do they take care of themselves?
Somehow, despite his near crippling guilt and the horror of being in early 20s, his mental health is ok taking in the variables. Itās more of a struggle of identity than any mental affliction. Sif and Arvid are there to help him navigate it all, and he has his faith to turn to (even though its at odds withĀ his lived experience). He does get a grip of his identity once all the shackles of normalcy and polite society are thrown off
Sheās depressed and an insomniac so she makes herself useful. Takes time to herself very rarely and is nearing burnout most of the time, but having Kerim with similar issues they look after each other. She also has Samalan and Naveen to remind her that she doesnāt need to do everything all by herself. So she has people to lean on.
11) What was your inspiration for your OC?
So I discovered Insomnium earlier this year and their concept album Anno 1696 and thereās several characters that were a jumping off point for the forest gang in general. For Emil itās the witch hunter and the witchās husband (songs White christ and The rapids). I made Emil younger and more pathetic. And also those tumblr posts about christianity can't find them right now but āi am the priests favorite sacrificial lambā and āyou were born wretched and it took killing a god to make you redeemableā is what i can remember
Odesa literally started as, and is, an Odysseus ripoff, cringe is dead and I feel zero shame. I got into the iliad again last summer and went, huh, I really want a rat bastard professional liar and horse guy as a blorbo, with a terrible haircut, and lo and behold! She! And then i projected my own insecurities to her and shipped her off with a short king, she's the complete package
12) Does your OC interact with other people's OC? If so, who's their best OC friend?
Oo this is a tough one, no crossovers as of now. On the surface heād fit with the fuckerwoods fellas and hunters, the werewolves specifically. Iām having a hard time with this but someone a bit freaky, spiritual and family oriented
Again no crossover but tossing her into the spymaster mix could be in a āthis will end up horribly for multiple people involvedā way
13) Does your OC have a rival? How did it start?
Just the concept of organized religion once the puzzle pieces click together. No particular person bc he believes in the innate good in people, and those who have crossed swords with him are dead so, yeah
She plays a little cat and mouse game with the silver court, she has nothing personal against them, but their interests are just clashing, her best rival is Queen Rosanna. Theyāre both very smart and subtle in their dealings and Odesa finds her visits to Hirien Zilarr entertaining because of the queen
14) Who's a character your OC cannot stand! It's on sight when they see them!
The Cardinal in charge of the convent he was raised at. Once again, if he ever met them again he wouldnāt jump at them but he would grit his teeth and turn heel. (hasnāt seen them in years and years)
It has to be the templar commander, he doesnt even have a name yet but his place in the silver court in my notes is āleads the templars, everyone hates him, is competent unfortunatelyā
15) Will your OC ever retire? Do you see them making it?
Lol nope, he got roasted to a severe degree and then comes back as revenant to haunt Eha (his fate was sealed at the very beginning bc i do like contained stories, itās a about the journey)
She has better odds of making it, but after the war will either be won or in an eternal stalemate, sheāll go back to sailing, a very perilous life she leads. Might make it to 50, most likely goes out in a shipwreck under the stars in a very poetic manner. Or she retires and become an island lord, dunno, still figuring out the whole area so weāll see
#fuck it everyone's a main character#which reminds me i've been wanting to commission odesa for a while i should get to that#emil's warewolf mauling is strictly limited to otherworldly entities#he doesn't hurt people#unless they've stabbed him or sif first#needed to nerf odesa so boom mental unwellness be upon thee#kalmanportti#silver and gold
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waiting for people to get Just not normal enough about the odyssey so that I can hit them with the mianite propaganda. pspspspspsp if you like odysseus being athena's cringefail devoted wet rat archer bastard who does revenge murder, you're gonna LOVE jordan captainsparklez in hit 2014 mcrp series mianit- [gunshot]
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Ten PokƩmon You Can Take in Hand to Hand Combat
Kids everywhere use these wild lil guys to fight other wild lil guys, but Iām here to tell you that sometimes you can skip a step and get your own hands dirty. After months of research, Iāve prepared for you a guide to ten PokĆ©mon that, when the time comes, you can protect your family from.
I took a few things into account when making this list. Types that would be directly harmful to touch, like fire, poison, and electric, are all out of the question from the start. Iāve also taken into account evolution. Much like Man, the most dangerous PokĆ©mon, strength grows with development, so Pokemon at a later stage of life are more of a threat than their weak babies. Last, I looked at basic logic. Normal type is known to be weak in fights. I donāt want to repeat myself, but the basic thesis of my paper on Danny Fentonās letdown of a prom night applies to the idea of laying your hands on a Ghost type.Ā
With all the boring stuff out of the way, letās get a-tusslinā.
1. Caterpie (Difficulty 1/10)
National No: 010
Type: Bug
Species: Worm PokƩmon
Iām throwing you guys a softball here and starting off with this uwu looking squirmer. The worst they have to offer is a little bit of a bite, and even that only comes if they get held back a few grades before they evolve. Whatever they come at you with is nothing against a size 12 pair of Timberlands.
2. Lickitung (Difficulty 3/10)
National No: 108
Type: Normal
Species: Licking PokƩmon
This absolute fool utilizes its biggest vulnerability to attack. They throw that tongue your way, just sidestep and and stomp/stab/sprinkle with Carolina reapers. If youāre worried about your reaction time, consider standing in front of a streetlight in the dead of winter before dodging a slimy slap.
3. Drifloon (Difficulty 3/10)
National No: 425
Type: Ghost/Flying
Species: Balloon PokƩmon
4. Sentret (Difficulty 4/10)
National No: 161
Type: Normal
Species: Scout PokƩmon
PokĆ©God clearly had it out for this poor sap when She gave them a built-in bullseye. Be sure to aim for it when you sweep kick their load-bearing tail out from under them and Macho Man Randy Savage Diving Elbow Drop them while theyāre down.
5. Wooloo (Difficulty 4/10)
National No: 831
Type: Normal
Species: Sheep PokƩmon
Fighting a Wooloo is less of a quick spat and more of a long con. Canonically, one of these cotton balls can withstand massive falls due to their cushiony fluff. It stands to reason then that they will not notice someone hanging onto their underbelly, like Odysseus and Polyphemus cutting out the middleman, waiting to strike the moment they let their guard down.
6. Ditto (Difficulty 5/10)
National No: 132
Type: Normal
Species: Transform PokƩmon
A solid spartner (sparring partner). With the same strength and mind as you, theyāll never get the upper hand, so you can work on your endurance for as long as youād like. If you find yourself ready to end the stalemate, bear in mind that Ditto canāt recreate a bowie knife tucked into your garter belt.Ā
7. Mr. Mime (Difficulty 6/10)
National No: 122
Type: Psychic
Species: Barrier PokƩmon
Iām not saying this will be an easy match physically, but looking at their bulbous visage will unlock a primal strength you never knew you had in you. All inhibitions will be dropped an your sole purpose in life will become throttling the bastard until those rosy cheeks turn blue and that all-knowing, ever-taunting smile finally fades away.
Fuck Mr. Mime.
8. Alolan Rattata (Difficulty 6/10)
National No: 019
Type: Dark/Normal
Species: Mouse PokƩmon
One word: entrapment. This Alolan scourge has taken to a life of crime, picking up the dark type as it embraced the lifestyle of island time.Your best bet is t hide a mousetrap in a thick wallet and carry said trapwallet in a conspicuous back pocket as you stroll around town. Once you hear the yelp of a dastardly pickpocket, turn around and punt that riffraff of a street rat with everything youāve got.Ā
9. Starly (Difficulty 7/10)
National No: 396
Type: Normal/Flying
Species: Starling PokƩmon
I tried to avoid adding birds to this list. Being able to move on a third axis is an unfair advantage, and I can vouch for how hard it is to fight a bird. That said, this scoundrel orb is going to be your best bet if youāre set on chasing that specific anti-avian thrill. Itāll be hard to get the drop on them, but a Starlyās the perfect shape to hop on and put in a headlock, as you careen down from the heavens to a mutual but worthwhile death.
Before we finish this journey, I want to pause. Iāve been focusing so much on the who that I forgot the why. Letās ask for a moment, not who you can fight, but who you should.
Honorable Mention: Mime Jr. (Moral Difficulty 1/10)
National No: 439
Type: Psychic/Fairy
Species: Mime PokƩmon
You know how people always talk about going back in time to kill Hitler as a baby?
10. Dugtrio (Difficulty 9/10)
National No: 051
Type: Ground
Species: Mole PokƩmon
All those years of practice on Whac-A-Mole and that one spider game at Chuck E Cheeseās are finally going to pay off. Grab a mallet or mallet-stand-in and siphon off all of the government-induced rage youāve got in you. You are facing a major threat in any seismic tremors they cause, so I recommend avoiding direct contact with the ground. Approach the enemy via a low-flying hot air balloon, a large crane, or Moon Shoesā¢.
NOW GET OUT THERE AND MAKE ME PROUD KIDS
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Odysseus showing up to the troy pre-game with less men/ships then everybody else, very finely dresses, and with ten years of food supply (hello prophecy he and Penelope received): no no what are you talking about this is all the men we have don't you know Ithaca is nothing but a very poor island. These clothes look so good bc Penelope made them herself and she is also blessed by Athena. That's right we don't even have slaves to do such tasks for us (lies. They both just like making shit for the other) no I absolutely didn't over pack on food what are you talking about this will only last us till we get to troy because it's going to be a short easy war right? That's what you're promising me. Please remember I am from a very poor island of rocks.
#The iliad#The odyssey#Odysseus#Penelope#Odysseus gaslighted everyone into thinking he's dirt poor#Will never get over that one line in the odyssey saying that Ithaca is stupid rich#Odysseus being a rat bastard#Remember that one book in the iliad where it just lists everyone's supplies for like 20 minutes#And it's all so and so brought 100 ships and a stupid amount of men#And then it's like and odysseus brought 12 ships#Filling my cup of tea with imagining how pissed everyone is at odysseus at all times
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& all the greek mythology asks
Aether- Name?
fox or sometimes nate. i also have my real name but i donāt trust 99% of people with it, so, those two it is.
Anteros- Sexuality?
queerĀ
Apollo- Gender?
no
Ares- Favourite movie?
princess mononoke or treasure planet
Artemis- Favourite time of day?
night
Asclepius- Favourite animal?
foxes, possums are closeĀ second
Athena- Favourite thing to learn about?
world history/ancient civilisations
Atlas- Favourite myth?
cain and abelĀ
Cerberus- Dog or cat person?
i have a preference for dogs but i love them both smĀ
Cronus- Favourite food?
baklava
Cyclopes- Whatās your favourite joke?
my life
Dionysus- Favourite drink?
either wild cherry capri sun or fireball
Eros- Are you in love?
uh yeah, i sure hope i am (very much so)
Hades- Greatest fear?
idk ? sometimes i think abt whats gonna happen to my loved ones if/when i die and that stresses me the fuck out
Helios- Night or day person?
night timeeeeeeee
Hephaestus- What is your favourite form of art?
music
Hermes- Do you like traveling? Where is one place you want to travel to?
love travelling. would do it more if i had the money or time. i wanna go to alaska!!! or ireland and scotland
Hypnos- On average, how much sleep do you try to get every night?
enough
Icarus- How would you describe yourself?
Labyrinth- Do you have a good sense of direction/do you get lost easily?
depends? im usually alright with navigation
Medusa- Do you have any pets?
i have my rat bastard german shepherd, Bear
Odysseus- Do you finish tasks quicker, or does it take time for you to get through them?
HAHA . i have adhd so i never know! it depends!Ā
Pandoraās Box- What is a mistake youāve made that you regret?
getting piss drunk at the furry conĀ Ā
Pegasus- What is your relationship with your parents like?
mom and i are pretty close. my dad is just. yeah.
Persephone- What is your ātypeā?
my girlfriend is my typeĀ
Phobos- Do you think itās okay to be afraid of things?
yeah???? why wouldnāt that be okay??? iām terrified of old peopleĀ
Poseidon- Do you like to swim?
yeah! love being moistĀ
Prometheus- If you could have any one ability, what would it be?
shapeshifter ???Ā āi wanna be a cowboy babyā i say before i transform into a cowboy
River Styx- What do you think happens when we die?
well, our bones and bodies return to the earth and our souls? idk. i think maybe they exist on a plane just slightly above the one we occupy right now. i like the concept of valhalla and afterlife stuff but iām not entirely subscribed
Titans- If you could go anywhere in time, when would you want to go?
i wanna go to medieval europe and start a mosh pit in a royal court somewhere. in seriousness i wanna go to the golden age of piracy. i want to be a pirate so bad
Zeus- Favourite weather?
snow !!!
jfc that was a lot. thank you liz. iluĀ
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Penelope: odysseus darling....I'm not judging but why are you strapping knives, money, and an emergency pack to your chest? Is something happening? Should I grab one too??
Odysseus, not explaining anything: I'm not taking any fucking chances I've learned my lesson the last time she caught me off gaurd I was 17 it's not fucking happening now when we're married. I know better
Penelope who speaks odysseus: ....lady Athena attacks you in middle of the night?
Odysseus: YES it's so rude of her
Penelope, internally: don't laugh don't laugh don't laugh: should have just been a weaver instead, then lady Athena would just show up demanding woven battle scenes and new capes.
Odysseus: incoherent screaming
Later that night
Athena: Hey hey penelope I'll give you the power to see colors you can't even imagine and the threads to go with it if you get rid of that survival bag.
Penelope, not even hesitating: deal
#Epic the musical#The odysseus#Pre-canon#Penelope#Odysseus#Athena#All of athenas chosen are rat bastards and therefore Athena is too#Odysseus and athenas wacky ātrainingā adventures#Odysseus amd Athena locked in a stalemate not being able to surprise the other anymore#Enter penelope also a rat bastard and 100% willing to help the other out because she finds it funny#Yes Athena did give penelope the ability to see shrimp colors for betraying odysseus to her#Yes penelope found odysseus shrieking funny#Yes she did then help odysseus prank athenas temples (she left a very nice tapestry as an apology)
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Okay so with the line "the olive tree where we first met" we have two equal hilarious options.
When penelope was sassily like oh I'll marry you if you make a living bed out of this tree right here! Cue penelope stumbling over odysseus very very carefully digging up the tree "because how else is he going to get it to itacha we can't have a wedding bed out in the open in sparta duh"
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2. Penelope, knowing that Helen's suitors would soon be arriving to take over her home for a while. Snuck out and went on her own wacky shenanigan filled journey where she scoped out all the major players. Odysseus caught her spying in an olive tree. And when she got back she told Helen she had dibs on the cutie from itacha.
#epic the musical#epic spoilers#Itacha saga#penelope#Odysseus#Odypen#odysseus x penelope#Young odypen courting was filled with wacky nonsense basically canon confrimed#The line ā....where we first metā implying that they first met under that specific olive tree#Which has to have some absolutely insane logistics that only odypen (and maybe Athena) could pull off#Odypen being š„° š¤ rat bastards in love#Option one odysseus Athena please please please helpppp me pen said she'd only marry me if I made a wedding bed out of this tree#Athena: once again I think you are praying to the wrong person but fuck it how do you think you're going to keep that tree alive#Odysseus: ....a large bucket?#Athena gimme a sec okay I need to go have ares bash my skull in before I watch something this stupid#Athena: checking in on penelope her chosen weaver only for her to be pulling her hair out#Penelope (to her cousins): why did I fucking say that! Beating fathers already an impossible challenge why did I say that#He's going to think I was making fun of him! He's not going to want to marry me now!#Helen: weren't you? Making fun of him?#Penelope: That's not the point!#clytemnestra: Hey he's digging the tree up and has the biggest bucket I've ever seen#Penelope: what?! Trips over every item in the room and gets tangled in her curtains blushing like crazy#Athena: ....it's been a while since I checked up on diomedes training. He'd never put me through this nonsense#Option 2#Helen's maybe a little nervous and wants to know more about who she has to potentially marry and penelope promises her she'll get rundown#Helen did not expect penelope to disappear but she probably should have....it'll probably be fine. Right?#Some kings penlope just straight up greets some she stays hidden and spies#Odysseus is the only one who catches her (he trains woth Athena in the olive Grove#She was not happy when odysseus nearly tripped onto her spear point face first when he saw the strange pretty girl)#And odysseus who's been king for a few years now knows every lady's face because he'll probably have to marry one of them someday
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Odysseus with his head in his wife's lap, happily not paying attention to anything, humming one of athenas song and carving something
Some random guy: your majesty----
Odysseus: not bothering to sit up: whatever my wife decided is fine.
#the odyssey#epic the musical#Odysseus#Penelope#Odypen#Post-canon my beloved#Odysseus tried to hold court exactly one time before he 1. Realized he's very out of date with everything and#2. Remembered that these meetings sucked so much#Odysseus then quickly climbed into his wife's lap and was like penelopes been ruling for 20 years she's got this#The first time someone tried to insist that it wasn't acceptable for penelope to answer ody nearly killed the guy#Nobody tried to force the issue after that#The only time odysseus sits up to contribute is to be like 'no no we can take that route now I killed the monster that lived there years ag#This is not to say he isn't listening and paying attention! He is! He's just scoping everybody's out#Noticing who's more pushy when they're trying to deal with penelope than they are with him#He's got twenty years of politics to catch up on! And he's going to be sneaky about it#Odysseus post return gaining a reputation for being uninvolved and uncaring only to pull the rug out from underneither the other person#Penelope is a okay with this for many many reasons#First off her system is one of beauty and the fact that her husband didn't spend all her hard work to take back over the second he came bac#Is rare and penelope is grateful everyday for who she married#Second she gets to show off look at how well she did odysseus look at how clever she is ody ody watch as I scam these people isn't that hot#(It is and yes of course odysseus was watching)#Penelope enjoying how odysseus lays out over her like a lazy lion#It scratches her possessive side to show him off like this and she gets to play with his hair#Telemachus attending some of these meetings to learn (tm) and spending the whole time deeply embarrassed#Odypen being š„°š¤ rat bastards in love
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Of course post-canon odysseus and penelope love each other (they are a little bit insane about the other. Neither is allowed to leave the others side for months after odysseus gets back. They cycle between sobbing on one and another and aggressively making out. ) but it's true that they have both changed. It's been twenty hard years after all. So
Odypen courting each other again just for the fun of it. Odypen deciding to act like teenagers again and make elaborate plans pretending to sneak into the others room.
Odysseus sending penelopes 90 year old dad a letter challenging him to a race for penelopes hand in marriage. (This does not go over well but penelope though it was hilarious)
Odysseus begging Athena to help him win penelopes heart/hand again. (Athena: What no why you're already married I don't understand you ) (she helps anyways)
Penelope weaving all of odysseus's clothes. Penelope hauling out every tapestry she made of telemachus's childhood (she made one for every year. To gift odysseus on his birthday when he returned.)
Odypen leaving telemachus incharge while they go off on dates (to harssass, cause problems, and badger other people into giving them things). It should be fine Athena has been sticking close to the house lately. And it's only for an afternoon anyways (at first. Headcanon that penelope came with odysseus when he had to go plant the oar and call it a windmill quest.)
#The odyssey#Post-canon my beloved#An important part of the heros journey is that even though you've changed irrevocably the home still loves you#Odysseus#Penelope#Telemachus#Athena#Odypen#Odysseus and penelope being š„°š¤ rat bastards in love#Odypen mutually obsessed and possessive and insane about the other#Odypen age 50 deciding to act like teenagers for fun#Yes penelopes father did show up to the challenge odysseus set and then promptly beat his ass in a foot race#Yes this did cause a major diplomatic incident when he demanded penelope come back with him#(Hes never ever warmed up to odysseus and every day he mutters about his sweet penelope could have been athenas priestess instead)#(It took telemachus weeping at his grandpa about how he just got both parents for him to change his mind)#Odysseus: athenaaaa I've met the girl of my dreams and I need her to be mineeee#Athena: having flashbacks to odysseus at 17 and the complete distracted mess he was: what the fuck is happening#Athena: like obviously I'm going to help but I am also going to lay on telemachus's floor#And mutter about how this is just like last time? How could it be just like last time when they're already married#Not quite falling back in love but something close to it#Relearning perhaps#As always I'm having post odypen reunion thoughts#Odypen showing of diomedes doorstep in Italy and he just closes the door immediately he's not dealing with two odysseus not today
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More of penelope and odysseus being rat bastards in love please. I know for a fact that these two were menaces to any neighboring kingdoms. They were pulling scams, they committed crimes, I know these two are just the most obnoxious people at a party.
#Odypen#odysseus x penelope#odysseus#penelope#Odysseus penelope being š„°š¤ rat bastards in love#Banging pots and pans together they are mences straight up gremlins#I know for a fact that telemachus spends parties going I'm so sorry for them#No it's not my dad's trauma Athena says he's always been like that#Odypen dedicating everything they win/steal/scam to Athena so she finds this behavior funny#Not my phone correcting rat to rational š
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Eurylochus trying to physically drag odysseus by his ankles as odysseus clings to some tree root. (They've reached a stalemate. Polites couldn't make it today for some reason, he had blacksmithing training.)
Eurylochus: how the fuck are you king?
Odysseus, who needs to get all his dramatics out before going back to being responsible: didn't you hear i stole it from my dad
Eurylochus: nevermind I'm just going to kill you
Odysseus: I mean you can try ONE of us is being trained by the goddess of war
@www-dot-why-are-you-here-dot-com
#hey odysseus you missed that thing#And are now pissing me off by being late to training#eurylochus#odysseus#epic: the musical#Pre-canon#Their doomed friendship my beloved#To be clear odysseus is a good king he's just also 16 and relaxing with his friends rn#Know that the ensuring wrestling match did make them both very late making the argument pointless#Which was on purpose on odysseus's part because he is a rat bastard#Oh wait headcanon that this is the first time eury sees Athena because she shows up 2 hours in to go#Eurylochus dropping to his knees like fuck fuck fuck#As odysseus just grins up at the goddess from the mud like 'sup Athena I think you'll find it was getting a head start on fight training#Athena then banishing eurylochus back to his home because āmove mortal this is my special time with my favā#Eurylochus laying on his floor for 4 hours screaming internally#He had thought odysseus was /lying/ about being trained by the goddess of war
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