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aikoiya · 1 month ago

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And I'm already looking forward to your next one! As for discovering my ancestry: It surely did! It’s always interesting to see how people migrated around the world. And that really wasn’t the only shocker involving my ancestry, but I worry I might be revealing too much. 😅

This is true, but then again, I’ve also never really been interesting in almonds much. I’ve no clue why, but I kind of see them as boring.

Chestnuts, though! Now, I'll always love where I live, but one thing that I don't understand is why it's so easy to find most any other nut pre-shelled, but not flippin’ chestnuts! Not only that, ya'll had the right idea with that chestnut spread! I have yet to see a single jar of the stuff anywhere I've shopped & it makes not a single ounce of sense!

We HAVE the chestnuts! We HAVE the brains & the means! You're seriously telling me that we have matcha lattes at the local Starbucks, but NOT flippin’ spreadable chestnuts!?

We're the birth place of peanut butter & we get nutella just fine, but we can't figure out a way to do the same trick twice with an actual nut!?

Like, evidently, we actually do have our own American chestnuts, but a slight from the eastern hemisphere was introduced in the 20th century. So, now almost all of them have been killed off & I'm mad about it! I mean, there's been attempts to make them immune to the fungus that does it, but it's apparently been slow going.

Apparently, before that, they were a huge part of the hardwood industry over here & hardwood floors made from need flippin’ machine drills to even penetrate the stuff. So, yeah. I might be ever so slightly jealous.

But other than that, I've been enjoying my endeavors to create this cute little dining spot for Hyrule.

Though, I'm thinking that this version is most likely not the most traditional iterations of the recipe. 😅

It’s mostly just the butter sauce & the side that goes with it that's different, though. You're supposed add the sliced chestnuts to the Radiant beurre noisette & it's supposed to enhance the nutty flavor, & add the Château Marée-Chant: Marée Sarcelle Wine (the seagrape wine), cream, salt harvested from Bubble Kelp (it's supposed to add a bit of an umami kick), a pinch of cayenne, rosemary, & Shock Fruit juice. When that's done, then the seared red snapper is placed on a bed of sea asparagus & an Oceyam gnocchi risotto that's been sautéed in butter sage. Oceyam is the Hyrulean common name for the Mignames or ocean sweet potatoes & the rice is the seed from Zostera marina or eelgrass.

Never had it before, but now I really wanna try it.

Eh, tryin’ to keep track of which canon information is relevant & failing, is just an occupational hazard.

Nah, that's fair. Never understood why the Yiga didn't do that myself. Like, by all accounts, they could've been done with this a long time ago had they taken over a Stable & waited till the Champion showed himself, then waited for him to sleep before just Assassin Blading him in the trachea. Mission complete.

Nope, you're right. I agree. Though, at the same time. I doubt that Link managed to kill all of them. If the stronger ones were able to escape, I wouldn't be shocked if a bunch of those Yiga fights were actually the same few dudes trying to avenge their poor bruised pride.

Maybe…

Right? It's like, wow! It's no wonder that the Dorf might try to deflect the blame onto the Sages. Otherwise, he'd have to face the absolute sea of death that he was at fault for.

Simply having people arriving from outside of Hyrule probably is one of the more elegant solutions to the issue, I'll admit.

Understandable. Though, personally, I'd stick with the tavern & keep the shelter a more rarely-used place where they keep the more important stuff. Or add in another, more… subtle secret entrance… If only to keep it as much of a secret as they can so that if the Yiga or, heaven forbid another Calamity, ends up being a problem again, then they might have it as an advantage. I mean, even if the Yiga are bumbling, they're still a threat. All it takes is a single well-aimed arrow to the back of the head of someone important.

They're assassins & they can't be anon-threat, or they wouldn't have lasted this long.

Hey, if Hyrule's past is what's callin’ to ya, don't fight the pull. Goodness knows when inspiration will strike next. Gotta get it all down before you forget.

It's fine. I suppose it would look pretty weird, huh? But yeah, I get that. To be fair, I doubt the Spanish expected them either. 😂

But being real, the issue might be that you expected things to begin with. I've learned to just… not do that. Better not to get carried away by the hype. Though, it might also partially be because we really only see Rauru & Mineru. They're royalty. So, my guess would be that Zonai of other statuses/occupations would likely wear different sorts of attire to the king & his sister. And the martial uniforms would probably look very different, too.

Though, now I’m wondering what you were expecting?

Well, it’s possible that Rauru was thinking that perhaps with access to more resources, then perhaps the Gerudo would be less likely to start a kerfuffle. Maybe he thought that the reason for their aggression had to do with wanting more?

Absolutely agreed! It's ridiculous! I mean, don’t get me wrong. I am very anti-Imperialism, but the entire premise of Legend of Zelda is built around the “knight saves the princess” wish fulfillment. You can't exactly have a princess or a knight without some sort of monarchy.

You got it in 1! Yeah! And, I think that Fudō Myōō is something like an avatar of Shiva, Hindu god of destruction who teaches that destruction is an important & even necessary first step before true progress can begin. It's like how before a house can be built, trees must first be felled & stones must be mined. Evidently, he's actually one of the five Brightness Kings or Lords of Light, as well as being a protector & guide. Especially to those who practice Vajrayana Buddhism, where instead of letting go of one's anger, it's channeled into something productive. It's even said that Fudō expression is that of one who is compassionate & wise in the face of a world that is often cold & unforgiving.

As such, I'm sure that you can see why I find this choice of symbolism for this Ganondorf very interesting as, while on the surface, Fudō seems scary, with context he stands in stark contrast to Ganondorf & his goals. In fact, I can't help but wonder if it's implying the sort of person he was supposed to be, but wasn't quite able to.

This when paired with the overall themes of Akuma, On'nen, & all that, to me brings to mind that part of the point of it all is showing us that there is still hope for him.

But, I know that you don't really want to study this sort of thing in-depth; I just really find the whole thing very interesting!

Sweet! Though, can you imagine her telling Flora about Sun? Like, I know that this is a different timeline from the one that SS's Old Impa was from, but still. Like, my guess is that Flora had an entirely different idea of what Hylia was like compared to how Sun was.

Oh my gosh, SAME!! Like, grrr!! I just have this idea of them having these lanterns that call the Poe Souls to them & that allow them to carry the things to the Bargainers.

I also just found their scant bits of dialogue & the locations of a number of them to be super interesting! Like, three of them are at the bases of the Sacred springs! How is that NOT significant!? Like, “Sir! Who are you!? Why do the Goddesses allow you to camp out under their springs???”

Eh, true. But I dunno. I feel like Purah already has a fairly big role in both games, but Paya really didn't. Like, I get why you'd think so, because Purah & Mineru have a bunch in common. But at the same time, I just really like Paya. X3

Right?! Like, it's still weird-looking & the helmet could really use a bit of redesigning, but other than that, I just love the implied lore.

Aw! That sucks, but yeah. I gotcha. It's sad because I really do think that TotK had just SOOOO much potential as a whole.

Oooo! Thank you!!! Lore!

Makes sense, I remember reading somewhere that Japanese is something called a “pro-drop” language, meaning that pronouns really aren't necessary.

Even so, I like to think that while the og Japanese translations are the base canon that, others translations can still be used to give things a bit more detail on some things.

True.

This is true. Though, remember, this is mostly just me speculating. I actually have no clue what the deal is with the way the water works the way it does.

Ah! Sorry about that. Yeah, it’s hard to figure out what the intent was here.

True, though, even if they couldn’t get past the force field, I still think they might be able to figure out that there was something weird going on down there when they come across this big magical forcefield underwater. Also, the Goddesses probably might think, “better safe than sorry.” I mean, it would certainly fit with how much more effort it seemed that Wind had to go through in order to get to the Master Sword in WW compared to OoT. If Nayru did create time, my guess is that she would at least be aware of the downfall timeline. Plus, the reason why the flood took place here was because the hero didn’t appear this time.

Like, yes. Time had to go through 3 dungeons to get the Spiritual Stones, but other than that, all he had to do was play a song & walk in to get the sword. Here, Wind needed to go through an entire other dungeon with a guardian placed there by the gods themselves in order to test him. A dungeon & guardian that were very specifically protecting the way to Hyrule, where the sword was kept.

By all accounts, the Goddesses seemed to have decided to become extra cautious this time & leave as little up to chance as was possible.

Exactly. Like, you’re gonna live on such a tiny island & NOT teach your kid to swim better? At the same time. None of the other readily available areas with water were very large, so (provided that I’m correct) he likely wouldn’t have learned to swim as well or as long.

Mmm… True. The comment could really go either way. It’s also possible that the water very specifically drains the vitality of organic beings within them. If so, then maybe that’s why Wind can swim in it, but can’t seem to swim very far? In such a case, it’d have been by design. And, if so, then even if the non-ocean water doesn’t have the same properties, a vitality-sapping ocean is still the only place you can learn to swim. In such a situation, you’re unlikely to become a good swimmer. Of course, this still doesn’t explain everything, but at least we have some other explanations. Though, maybe I’m reaching? Regardless, that’s fair. I understand. What’s your thoughts on the reason?

Really? Huh! Wait, you mean a new character who didn’t act as one of the secondary protagonists from BotW, not just new entirely. Because Tulin was in BotW, he was just a little chicky-chicky with a big ol’ head & round cheeks.

Either way, I suppose that I see what you mean. Though, now I’m sort of curious, but I’ll stop asking.

Actually, that's fair. Though, I also feel like the Sages likeIy had other roles beyond being guardians? I mean, temples are generally just really big places of worship, so you could consider the Sages of those temples to be the high priests or priestesses at said temples. It just seems odd for them to have such big huge roles that they only need to perform once, then they never really have to do anything with it again. Besides, I dunno. Maybe I feel like if they did have some fighting capability that they wouldn't get killed off as often? I mean, sure, they'd probably still get the ax, but at least they'd put up more of a fight.

But that's more a personal gripe than anything. Either way, I think I understand what you mean.

Oh, I just had another one, though it's essentially just a different version of the echolocation. This one could be for the Mogma or Goron Sages. Seismic Sense. Essentially, just Toph’s ability from Avatar: Last Airbender.

Though, maybe this could be used as a theme for them? Perhaps the reason could be that they all combine their prayers & sensory abilities in order to locate something?

For example, the Sage of Water has echolocation, the Sage of Earth has a Seismic Sense, the Sage of Spirit can sense the souls of those around them, the Sage of Wind can feel via currents of air, the Sage of Fire could detect heat, the Sage of Forest could connect to plant-life in order to locate things like how Huu did in Avatar (yes, I'm aware that this is the second time I've mentioned it, that show just did a lot of things really well) & so on. Either way, all of them together could feasibly search all across Hyrule in order to locate something of great importance that’s been lost.

But I don't expect you to use it. You probably already have that figured out. I just liked the idea of it, is all. 😅

Actually, we did. It just wasn't in a canon timeline, is all. Remember how HW Link & Zelda zapped Ganondorf at the end? Of course, I'm not saying that it couldn't also be Hylia's power. I'm just pointing things out.

I guess that I just don't really see Sun & Sky as the types to want to be king & queen. Besides, the Skyloftians seemed to be a really close-knit community where most everyone knew everyone. Like, most of the adults probably knew both Sky & Sun when they were in diapers! I also just very much don't see Sun wanting to tell them that she's literally Hylia reborn. Her entire personality said, “Hey, sure I was Hylia, but I'm YOUR Zelda.” Like, she gives the impression that she'd just want to get back to living her life as a normal girl. Because of this, I feel like it'd need to be one of Sky & Sun's ancestors rather than Sky & Sun themselves who become the first king & queen. And my thoughts are that Gustaf was that ancestor.

As for the time between Skyward Sword & the War of the Bound chest? I think it was noted that at least several generations had passed between SS & MC. And I know that it had to have been a minimum of 200 years since the War of the Bound Chest in order for there to be a recognized holiday that only takes place once every 100 years.

My guess would be between 500 & 2,000 years bare minimum, with 10,000 being the absolute max I'd be willing to give it. So, that would mean that the time between SS & the WotBC would've been something like between 300 & 1,700 years min & 9,700 max.

Though, personally, I have a slight alteration to the events so as to fit in with things. I basically have it so that the first queen of Hyrule was actually from the Sheikan house of Sahasrala & a light mage named Nekarina. They fought side by side in the War of Bound Chest defending the people. It was during that time that Nekarina became appointed as the first Light Priestess of her family due to her use of solamagy & lunamagy (sunlight & moonlight magic) to fight off the monsters that attacked. Because while there had been many other light mages in her family, this ended up being the first time that they became truly recognized for that alignment. And much like how Gustaf was gifted with the Picori Blade, she was gifted with the Light Force (which I'm saying was something different from the Triforce). And it enhanced her magical capabilities. It was also during this time that Nekarina & Gustaf fell in love & wed. Then, at the end of it all, the people elected the 2 as their king & queen.

And that Nekarina's uncle was the first Rauru, as in the one who built the Temple of Time & originally sealed the door to the Sacred Realm. Meanwhile, the Rauru from OoT was a different one, though still from the, now, Pastoral House of Sahasrahla. As in, by that point, they'd become a family who were closely tied to the Potch & managing the Temple of Time. (Potch being my attempt at the Hyrulean equivalent to a Church; from the Greek word Potnia (ποτνίᾱς) meaning mistress as the word Church is thought to have originated from the Greek word Kuriakon meaning “the lord's house.” So, Potch would come from Potnakon, which is SUPPOSED to mean “the lady's house.” And, yes, I know that may be a bit excessive, but it was REALLY bothering me.)

Like, I have this entire history for Hyrule between the lives of Four & Time. As in, with wars & revolutions & everything. Like, 3 generations before OoT Zelda, there was Queen Mera who was… Let's just say that she was awful. And it wasn't only her, but so were the 3 generations of rulers before her at least. And it was during those 4 generations of trash rulers that they began to exploit the Sheikah's loyalty to, what they believed to be the crown. Reducing them to what amounted to the Royal Family's attack dogs &, with them, the Temple of Shadow was turned from a holy place to inter & honor the dead, then send then off with respect, into the grotesque torture prison that we saw in OoT. In fact, it was exactly all of this that began to sew unrest within the citizens of Hyrule. This was before the alliance between the Hylians, the Gorons, & the Zora, mind.

Anyway, it was Queen Mera's children, Sephio & Sonia (yes, I'm having the name “Sonia” be a running thing, too), who would eventually publicly abdicate their claims to the throne during one of her grotesquely extravagant parties where only the wealthiest & most affluent people were invited. Wasteful parties that was sapping the kingdom of Hyrule & its neighbors of its wealth & resources. It was also when they very publically joined the rebels with the intent to dethrone her. See, they'd technically already been members beforehand & had acted as the rebels’ informants, but now they made this information public & the moment they did, the staff serving at the party revealed themselves to all be members of the rebel alliance. At which point, they robbed the guests & host absolutely blind, before escaping with the riches, thus humiliating the queen in front of all those important deligates as well as leaving Mera's regime effectively without a viable heir. The reason being that Mera had never wanted children to begin with & had only had them to keep her claim to the throne & ensure that it would remain within her line's hold. So, when she had Sonia & Sephio, she then took a drought that rendered herself barren. But because of this, she would be unable to produce a new heir &, thus, her claim was not shaky.

And it just so happened that one other rebel at the time happened to have been a young Priest of Light of the Pastoral House of Sahasrahla, Rauru Sahasrahla. Along with his best friend, the son of the Foregoron at the time, who had been the one to tell him of the rebels to begin with. (Foregoron being the equivalent to a Foreman, which I'm saying is essentially the title for the Goron Chief.)

The rebels were made up of Hylians, the Sheikah, humans without round ears, the Gorons, the Zora, & even the Deku Scrubs.

I haven't figured out the whole of it, but I'm essentially making it at least somewhat inspired by the French Revolution with the Rebel Alliance having more influence from Robin Hood & his merry men. But, I'll be completely honest, this entire thing essentially spawned from the presence of guillotines in the Shadow Temple. Here, they were invented by a psychopath, but when the rebels win the war, the Sheikah offer forth the very obstacles/torture devices that had been used to defile their holy place, as a way to execute the ruling class.

Eventually, Sonia & Rauru marry & become king & queen. Except this time, there are more restrictions placed upon the monarchy & more power given to the people. And they were put into place by the new king, queen, & grand duke, themselves. This also eventually led to the allyship between Hylians with the Zora & the Gorons.

They eventually have sons, the eldest being named Benjor & he will eventually become OoT Zelda's father. However, before that, Cadence of Hyrule will take place (& yes, I'm aware that it's not canon, but it fits perfectly into what I've planned, so ya know). And, the Hero of Music ends up being the grandson of Sir Raven from Oracle of Ages, while the Princess of Music was the granddaughter of Edvar, who was Mera's younger brother. And, when it was revealed that Grand Duchess Zelda Harmonia Hyrule bore the favor of the Goddesses, people began to put pressure on King Rauru to put her on the throne instead of Benjor. And, since Benjor was approaching his 21 summer & Zelda Harmonia had recently reached her 18th, & they were at least 2 generations apart, Rauru decided to betroath them rather than take his son’s birthright from him. Which would lead to the birth of OoT Zelda.

But, sorry. I got carried away. Anyway, to me, Link can't be the only hero in Hyrule. However I do think he's likely the trump card, capital “H” Hero. Who fate rolls out when the kaka REALLY hits the fan. And that he's typically only the Hero when the fate of not just Hyrule, but the world, hangs in the balance.

*nods* Makes sense.

Eh, you forget doomsday cults. But then again, I don't blame you. Other than that, I get what you mean. I just like to play with things a bit. Like, I've already told you about my version of Demise's origin story. For me, Ganondorf is essentially going to be Demise's only real chance of redemption. I mean, I can't help but feel like mortals are probably more receptive to change than immortals, right? So, I'm kinda using that against both Demise & Ganondorf to essentially force redemption on him. Because, to me, a truly irredeemable character is boring. So, I tend to use a less Abrahamic interpretation of “demon” & more of an eastern one. As, yes, there, Demise would be considered an evil being, one that can tie their hatred to a person & make their hate be born over & over again. Even as a mortal. But it's also possible for them to eventually let go of the very hatred that fuels such curses, thereby rendering those curses powerless.

At which point, Ganondorf &, in a way, Demise as well, will be free to be something other than the villain. Now, that won't end Hyrule's cyclical destiny, but it'll at least free up Ganondorf's role as main villain.

Eeehhh… I more so go a bit of both. As in, I do have Demise’s hatred (very specifically his hatred, not Demise himself) manipulating Ganondorf. However, I don't like the idea that he couldn't choose not to be the villain. As such, I'm making it more that Ganondorf isn't even aware that this thing is there. The hatred of Demise is kind of whispering ideas into his ear. Tempting him to follow his darker impulses.

However, in the end, I'm making it so that it was still ultimately Ganondorf who chose to do those things.

I also never really saw Demise as being all that intelligent. To me, he was a brute. As such, my thoughts are that since his hatred was literally just his hatred, this curse has sort of been taking on the qualities of the Dorfs. Sort of collecting whatever it thinks will help it to achieve its mission of bringing about oblivion. And it's kind of taking on a life of its own because of it.

Fair.

No no! The games never said that the vehvi weren’t allowed to send letters, thankfully. I'm just saying that the optics aren't looking very good for the Gerudo & that, HAD Nintendo put in a few little tidbits of information SUCH AS the girls being allowed to correspond with their fathers & male family members, then I feel like I wouldn't be quite so up in arms. There's no real evidence that the separation is quite that severe, but at the same time, we only ever see Maddison even mention their father.

Similarly, if one or two of the Gerudo out on the road were seen in one of the villages chatting with an older Hylian, & the Gerudo mentions that he was her father & she was visiting him. Or if one so much as made mention of them going to visit said fathers. Or if the Gerudo did what they did in OoT & gave any male who earned their respect a token that showed they were now considered honorary Gerudo & were thus allowed in their fortress, then I’d feel a lot more reassured that this whole thing isn’t as bad as I’m thinking it is.

But as it stands, Maddison is literally the only Gerudo in any Zelda game who we actually know has interacted with their father in any way, shape, or form.

And that’s just… I dunno, I guess that I just think it’s really flipping weird.

Like… I kinda find it creepy!

It actually kinda brings to mind how the female Martians treat the male ones in the movie “Mars Needs Moms.” And, let's just say that it very much doesn't have a very flattering image of the female Martins. Now, the movie itself has not been called a good one, but the premise is that the Martianettes are the ones in charge & they run everything with males & females living essentially completely separately from each other. The Martianettes live above & have advanced technology, while the Martieurs live below & almost appear to live more or less like neanderthals in the dump. And, much like the Gerudo, the mother Martians keep the daughters & really only seem to associate with Martieurs to procreate. However, unlike the Gerudo, males are as typical as for humans, but they send the sons to be raised by the males.

Now, there was most definitely a bit of an agenda to this movie, but I just think they didn't deliver it quite right.

Either way, I can't really help but find the whole thing very weird.

Actually, you make a wonderful point. Normally, yes. I'd actually agree with you a lot. Because, you're right. Little kids really shouldn't interact with strangers without a trusted adult around…

Except when you remember last game, when Link was in the Gerudo Set & everyone there thought he was a vai… Because NONE of the adults seemed to have any issue with the young Gerudo talking with strangers THEN.

So, it's actually not about him being a stranger, because if it were, then they'd be every bit as cautious of those little girls interacting with a female stranger.

Like, if this were the case, then sure. Yeah, I could get that. But it isn't.

You & me both. Need people to bounce ideas off of or I'd never find plotholes in my own work.

Okay, now that I believe. This makes a lot more sense. Though, not so much that they need a source of malice, as they just thrive & become a bigger nuisance when there IS one.

Like, having a big bad exacerbates the issue.

I actually sort of have it in my head that it's impossible for there to be no monsters so long as people have darkness in.their hearts. Like, there's a reason that this stuff is called things like “malice” & “rancor.” From how I understand it, it's because monsters essentially come from people. Normally, it just creates monsters, then big bads come & the monsters follow them. But that it's possible for people to be turned into monsters themselves. And we do see this happen a few times throughout the games.

As such, I very much don't see it just never being a problem, but I do agree that without a big bad at the helm, there are likely much fewer powerful monsters & the monsters that are there, are likely far more disjointed in their attacks.

That is possible. Though, I'd actually argue that it'd be more interesting if it wasn't a demon or Ganondorf &, instead, just some jerky mortal with delusions of grandeur.

And, it's fine. Everyone has their own hcs. Though, I will say that because you don't see Minish Cap as being part of the main timeline, you really can’t consider Four Swords or Four Swords Adventure part of it either without it. Otherwise, the entire lore behind how the Four Sword came to be sort of falls apart.

Not necessarily. It could work as a way to make the Gerudo even more unique. Of course, this isn't my hc either, but it just popped up into my head, so I thought that I'd bring it up.

Eh… True. Personally, one of the ways that I try to fix this is by creating another Gerudo settlement in the Highlands. It was founded proceeding the event with the 7 Heroines & the 8th. Some of the Gerudo decided, “this isn't cool” & sort of broke off from the main Gerudo & created their own tribe where they could venerate the 8th properly. I put it in Risoka Snowfield because I liked what Patricia's guard said about it. It felt poetic to literally have the followers of the Mysterious 8th living upon the shoulders of his statue. I called it Ealiyah Town, which I've had mean “family.” :3

Anyway, this Gerudo offshoot is still mostly Gerudo, but with a snowy Tibetan influence. I've very intentionally made them different… but still imbodying a lot of what makes the Gerudo so interesting fir me. Things like their penchant for textiles & colors & patterns, even a very strong brewing & mixology culture.

However, the big difference here is that men aren't forbidden. Though, it's mostly just those who've considered family who've allowed to actually live there.

One of my favorite things to think about is the cobble square at the center of Ealiyah where there's this circular ampitheater recessed into the ground & every month or so, anyone who wants to listen or participate comes there & people tell stories. And that's become a very big thing for them: storytelling.

Personally, I think that it might have something to do with the first Calamity after TotK Ganondorf was sealed. My thoughts are that the Divine Beasts were specifically made to be driven by members of the different tribes. And one of those would’ve been a Gerudo. However, keep in mind that maybe a hundred years before that, the Gerudo were enemies of Hyrule. And, in the case of the official canon, both sides of the equation had been left without a ruler. I find it almost completely unlikely that the Hylians would forget what was done. While, yes, the Sage of Lightning had sided with Hyrule & their allies, my guess is that the Chief at the time had probably used that as a means to wedge open the door to negotiation. Because, even if most of the Gerudo didn’t side with Ganondorf, what happened was horrible & people aren’t always sensible. And sometimes they let their emotions get the better of them.

I wouldn’t be surprised if a lot of Hyruleans held a bunch of grudges regarding what took place. It’s likely that there was A LOT of anti-Gerudo sentiment at the time.

If so, then I think that the Gerudo likely didn’t get… the pick of the litter, I suppose. And, I think that it showed. Even if the Gerudo do have a different mental makeup from IRL humans, I can’t really imagine that it’d feel great having to couple with someone who mat or may not be a criminal or had a rotten personality. Because if I'm right, the rest of the Gerudo may have become something of emotional scapegoats for the Hyrulean people. Those sorts of hurts don't just go away so quickly after this kind of tragedy.

In essence, I think that the Gerudo & Hyrule made some sort of treaty where the Gerudo officially became allies of Hyrule, with the stipulation that they would remain an independent nation. That they were allowed to enforce their own laws.

And, while I know that this isn't really the best explanation, I think it's possible that there may just be this general mentality of, “this is how it's always been. It stinks, but it's how things are.”

Yeah, definitely not suitable for a kids game. At the same time, I think you're kind of forgetting that people don't always make sense. To start off, why do you think that the Hylian men wouldn't change their minds after the fact? Like, regret is a really huge motivator.

Besides, even if that's the case, do you really think that it would stop Hyrulean men from falling in love with them & them with Hyrulean men? Even if it was well-known to be a central aspect of Gerudo life, do you really see the Gerudo not so much as interacting with Hylian men unless they happened to be someone who wouldn't care if she had his child? They're still people & there's still a very big possibility of becoming emotionally compromised.

I can easily see them initially doing exactly as you suggest by only sleeping with men who wouldn't care. However, life sometimes has a way of just happening. Sometimes, you make a new friend, not really expecting to like them as much as you end up doing &, before you know it, “Oh… Oh no… I REEEAAALLY like him...” Like, you hadn't even registered them in your mind as having been a possibility for a mate, but guess what? Now, you're invested!

And even then, people change their minds all-the-time. Just like Wabbin changed his mind about being able to not see his daughter again for so long despite knowing the rules.

Even if the Gerudo very specifically went out of their ways to only sleep with men who they think wouldn't care. That still wouldn't be a guarantee that the men wouldn't someday eventually marry other women & have a child with them. And when these men do, they'll have a child. A whole a$$ other person whom they love & would fight the flippin’ gods for!

I wouldn't be surprised if many would think back to the Gerudo woman he slept with & realize… “Oh… I might have a whole other child out there that I've never met… & I have no clue if they even survived to birth…”

Like, I remember hearing somewhere that learning that they are a father very literally changes a man's brain chemistry. (Sometimes, it causes a major change, sometimes it doesn’t.) So, if Hylian men are anything at all like IRL men, I doubt that it would matter as much as you'd think.

Like, unless these guys were legitimately horrible people, I can't imagine that none of them would be unmoved by the thought that there might be someone out there somewhere with his genes (even if they don't show up physically, the Gerudo might still inherit less visual traits from their fathers) & they know nothing about the other half of their family.

And that isn't even bringing up how dangerous it probably is. Think about it, what if the vehvi inherited some sort of genetic illness from their father?

Trust me, I've thought this stuff through. There isn't a version of this situation where the Gerudo come out smelling like roses without giving a little.

Really!?!? That's so flippin’ cool! Ya know, I kinda wish that I had a twin. I mean, day one, someone has your back.

Though, if not that, I wish I had an older sibling.

I'm the big sister here & I… Sometimes I worry that I haven't been the best one out there…

Thanks, always happy to help! Trust me, I try. It’s definitely one of those things I enjoy.

@aikoiya The post was getting long again so here's a new one!

I knew you were going to answer that saying "this is unfair" isn't real life logic haha (and I agree that life hasn't been fair to Sky and Sun anyway). It's just that such an ending would probably leave me feeling unsatisfied and even a bit robbed, and I think it would require a lot of other changes to be made to the story in order for it to work properly. But anyway you're right, as things are now this would just be happening behind the scenes so what I'm saying doesn't really make sense. But just thinking about it changes my perception of SS in a way I don't really enjoy, so it's not a theory I favor.

Yes in that setting I'm pretty sure that the other Sun would not make herself known to Link and Zelda and would let them have their happy ending. But I think Zelda would likely suspect her existence and know that something is wrong. I guess even Link could notice that the Temple's doors are suddenly open and would ask Impa a few questions.

I had no idea Tingle called Farore the Goddess of Wind in WW, so I went on a little quest to see if I could find the same quote in the French version of the game. Apparently it's in Tingle's description of Outset Island and I never had the chance to play with the Tingle Tuner mode. I can't find the same quote in French anywhere and I don't even know if this was included in the HD remake (I guess I'll have to wait for a Switch version to find out… if they ever release one). This has me wondering if this quote isn't something exclusive to the English version, but I can't be sure and I'd like to know what the original Japanese text says. The French wikis mention that Farore is the Goddess of Wind in WW but don't provide any quote, it just looks like the pages were translated from English but that they couldn't find the same quote in French. It's really frustrating!!

Anyway that's a bit weird because WW already establishes Zephos as the God of Wind, and he seems to be a minor deity compared to Farore. The way I see it, wind is just the element that Farore tends to be associated with, and since a lot of myths might have been lost with Hyrule in WW this could just be a mistake on Tingle's part. I mean this is the game that gave us the Golden Triumph Forks haha.

I'm not limiting Nayru/the Golden Goddesses to a singular domain, quite the opposite ^^ To me Nayru being the Goddess of Wisdom includes different concepts such as order, law, science, magic, etc., and even time (since she's introduced as the creator of the world's fondamental laws), while calling her the Goddess of Time doesn't include all of that. That's why I wrote that I found it a bit restrictive. But sure she could have both titles, the same way Farore could be known most commonly as the Goddess of Courage and also called the Goddess of Wind in some situations.

Oh I didn't think of the blocks from OoT! I would say though that they don't really use any time powers, they're just random blocks that appear or disappear for some reason when Link plays the Song of Time (it's just as absurd as playing the Song of Storms to open holes in the ground haha). But yes they were blue and associated with time, and of course Nayru is too. The difference with Hylia in my theory is that Nayru created the rules of time (if that makes sense) among other fundamental laws, while Hylia's power specifically allows her to manipulate time and foresee the future. In a way I see Hylia as Nayru's spiritual daughter who inherited some of her powers over time (and that's why the color purple she's represented with is very close to blue).

The Master Sword has also been depicted as either blue or purple though, so that asks the question of the true color of all of these things! Nayru is definitely linked to time so it makes sense that the timeshift stones are in Lanayru (and Hylia also doesn't have a province named after her).

"From the edge of time" could definitely just be a poetic way to say that Hylia kind of recorded a message for Link before dying haha. But I find it interesting that she would phrase it like that, I like to see it as a clue.

Well if Zelda simply sent Link to a point further back in time, wouldn't there be two Links existing at the same time in the Child Timeline? But sure Zelda creating a brand new timeline also raises a few questions that kind of... make my head hurt. I'm not sure what happens exactly, I've always wondered! All we know is that Link finds himself in the Master Sword's chamber with the Door of Time already open, which hints at things happening in a different way this time (because he definitely doesn't have the three spiritual stones and the Ocarina of Time yet since this is before Ganon's coup, and the ending seems to imply that this timeline's Zelda doesn't know him yet). That's why I believe Zelda might have done something a bit more complex than sending him to a point further back in time, but there's no way to be sure. The Triforce of Courage is also visible on Link's hand during the ending, and we also know thanks to TP that the Triforce is still separated in the Child Timeline despite Link and Zelda preventing Ganon from entering the Sacred Realm this time. So maybe Zelda isn't able to change everything? It's complicated haha.

Anyway, whether OoT Zelda creates a new timeline or just sends Link further back in time, that's still huge time powers and that's not something Link is able to do by playing Zelda's Lullaby.

I also believe it is more likely that Talon inherited the ranch. True, Talon might not always have been so lazy, but maybe if that was the case the game could have hinted at hit. All we know is that he leaves his daughter alone with Ingo and only comes back after Link deals with the situation, which does not make him look so great. And he only promises to work harder after that.

I'm kind of bad with names so I'm impressed you're going through all of that trouble to rename the settlements!!

I haven't gotten to developping the technology that much yet, but I'm really interested in seeing what the different races could do with it! I love the idea of using the Sheikah to infiltrate the Yiga bases. I wish TotK had done something like that and shown the Sheikah helping Link that way.

Same, I was so excited when I heard about these pirates… and then so disappointed to find nothing more than a bunch of bokos with no backstory.

Vignoble is not related to noble (though I kind of make the association in my mind, especially since vignobles are sometimes called châteaux).

Yes I thought you could maybe use clos! Aquaticlos is funny, it can work! Though maybe you could use the same logic as for the raisins (I love this Raisins de Terre idea by the way, it makes sense!) and say that what the Zoras call a clos already refers to something that's underwater, since that's probably the case for most of what they cultivate.

I don't mind helping you with French, I'm glad to do so! You put so much effort and thought into this, it's really interesting.

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