#Ninja Turtles:  the Next Mutation
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punster-2319 · 1 year ago
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90ssuperheroes · 8 months ago
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i am finally in 1/3 of a mood to finally get some of this down. kinda. hhhh
anyway my precious, beloved turtle daughter Mei Pieh Chi/Venus de Milo is a cultivator (sort of) and I am absolutely going to be fast, loose, and entirely lazy 'justifying' it because it's now 97 fuckenheit degrees outside.
first, point of contention, during the East Meets West five parter that served to introduce Venus she declares herself 'shinobi'. which, was so supremely silly and massively dependent on the audience of the time (late 90s U.S.A) being monolingual. mostly.
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... that's more of a hindsight nitpick tbh. I mean Venus used 'shaman' interchangeably to refer to what she and Chung I were on the show so why wouldn't-- ahem. anyway.
(i know why but I'm not about to get into asian-american history and asian depiction in hollywood 101, it also just became 100 fuckenheit degrees.)
functionally in the show, the distinction between the boys being 'ninja' and venus being 'shinobi' started and stopped with venus' spirituality and attunement with the supernatural. she fought with punches and kicks like the boys, used her cape to fight and her kai mai balls like the boys used their signature weapons. (the shit with the fan was because her toy came with fans, she never actually fought with them in the show).
now onto the reasons why, for purposes of understanding original Venus' magic/mysticism and having a frame of reference, I would categorize her as a 'cultivator' rather than 'shinobi'/shaman.
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though to clarify I wouldn't necessarily ascribe actual daoist cultivation with what Venus does. i mean sure she wears the taijitu on her arm. and her little leg garter but uhhhhhhh. considering what she actually does in the show plus the show's tone? i'd more easily say she's like a modern day xianxia cultivator.
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look at her, i love her so much. and now
the list of shit Venus canonically did and said on the show about her 'magic'.
She was taught neigong techniques and,
She's part of a sect, to watch and guard against the return of evil dragons (she failed but)
She can uh... idk what this is, calling up an old version of yourself to call your current self cringe until you quit being The Shredder?
She can do the Jedi Mind Trick
She has a 'revealing' powder
She can astral project/plane walk
She's capable of time/space displacement
She develops her own techniques
She's got her collection of medicinal herbs
She's a linguist.
She has... uh. "Mandarin itch powder" (file under: Shit Before 2001)
She's skilled in telepathy!
Also uh "long distance telepathy" and i guess candy telelocation?
She employs kai mai balls (that are also used as glue traps, long range blunt force impact etc.)
She's trained in cape fighting
She's the team medic
She studies up because in-show she's a masterless student
She can decode mystical cyphers
She can pick locks with magic and with tools
She can cast Fireball, a very low level Fireball
Also telekinesis
and in 5e she'd be a Wizard
thassit
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bellaboo2164 · 2 years ago
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Ninja Turtles: The Next Mutation; Venus and Donnie.
They are siblings (kinda twins even tho Donnie is a bit older.) they are besties.
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shadowwingtronix · 1 year ago
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BW's Daily Video> How The Ninja Turtles "Next Mutation" Happened
BW's Daily Video> How The Ninja Turtles "Next Mutation" Happened
Catch more from The Turtle Nexus on YouTube I wish I knew about this video before I did the article on the intros. This is info I could have used.
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amascomet · 6 months ago
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Massive sketch dump! The mm Donnie is me practicing the show style by redrawing one of the movie screencaps hehe
Last one is just another concept for another iteration idea haha
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joining the fandom 30 years late
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subbyfoxelf · 2 years ago
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[tv review] ninja turtles: the next mutation (1997-98)
so remember how bad the suits were in teenage mutant ninja turtles iii? sweet. imagine if they were even worse, and maintained on a tv budget.
like… we’re not talking as bad as we wish you a turtle christmas here (*shudder*), but still. it really limits what you can do. i’m really pretty genuinely confused why they decided to go live action here. was it to capitalize on the popularity of the movies? because it feels like the time to have done that would’ve been, y’know, at least five years beforehand.
and i guess it wouldn’t be so bad if the writing weren’t consistently terrible but, uh, funny story about that…
look i’m sorry i know hating on this show is like the least original approach ever, but i’m literally not sure what else to do here. they didn’t give me a lot of options.
of course the most famous thing about this show is the inclusion of a female turtle, venus. and like… i love the idea of a female turtle and i’m pretty sad they’ve never really tried to do it again, but… yeah, this was… extremely not great.
first of all, they decided to shoehorn in the idea that the turtles are not actually brothers, they’re just “like brothers,” and they include very heavy-handed references to this fact in dialogue seemingly every few episodes because it’s such a radical departure from everything before and since that they have to be sure to beat you over the head about it. and their reason for doing this was because they wanted to have venus not be related to them so there would be a possibility of her being romantically involved with one of the boy turtles (*sigh*), but they also thought it would be weird if she wasn’t related to them but they were all related to each other, so yeah, they did… this. and it’s just really dumb and bad and i hate it.
they also… didn’t give her a weapon? her weapon is magic. and she’s kind of bad at it? but like, there are so many iconic ninja weapons you haven’t used that you could’ve given her?
oh, but also she isn’t a ninja, she’s a “shinobi”? which is… a synonym of ninja. but here it means that she’s trained in mystical arts instead of martial combat. all of this is just so weird and dumb. just bizarre choices all around.
and her personality is like… she does all the boys’ emotional work for them while they’re being immature dumbasses and also constantly jockeying for her affections, but also like she’s super clueless about basically every facet of western life and is constantly trying to use idioms but saying them wrong?
i just. i hate all of this. all of it. they did everything they possibly could have done to undermine this character, to the point that you kind of wonder why they even bothered.
oh, actually, here’s something kind of hilarious. in the show’s closing credits, you see the turtles playing in a band. if you want to pay real close attention (and let’s be honest, you do; we’re all nerds here) leo and raph are on guitars, donnie is on a bass, and mikey is on the drums. so you’re thinking, “oh, cool, so venus is like the lead singer? i guess that makes sense.” and it would, but she’s not! she’s on a fucking tambourine. and if that isn’t the perfect visual shorthand for how her character was developed and written, i don’t know what is.
anyway, this show was so poorly received that its cancellation represented the first time there hasn’t been a teenage mutant ninja turtles series in production since 1987, and the franchise’s onscreen break would last all the way until 2003.
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nyxchipz · 5 months ago
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The next mutation is not good. In fact it is bad. But I can still hallucinate and pretend Venus and Donnie had an active sibling rivalry based off like 2 jokes in the show because I love Venus and I kind of liked Donnie too.
Venus I will save you.
Also the catchphrases are so terrible in this show but I haven't been able to stop saying "certified-turtlefied" all week and it's ruining my life I hate this show but I can't bring myself to hate this show
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introverted-ghost · 3 months ago
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Doing this again since tottmnt is out n stuff
Previous one if you wanna see how the stats change
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awzominator · 4 months ago
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Dayum another turtle victimized by boobs and unnecessary cartoon woman features 😔
Why does she have big chest and lips…and eyelashes… we were rooting for you rise
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fabuloustrash05 · 1 year ago
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I have been advancing my research on the TMNT Multiverse!!
Check out the previous chart
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tmntkiseki · 6 months ago
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For me, I wanna say the most difficult part isn't necessarily what I'm drawing, but how I'm drawing it? Because the 2003 turtles have got some pretty bulky builds, even when referencing the Fast Forward/BttS proportions where they were noticeably slimmed down, and so it's tricky to strike a balance between giving them enough muscle so that they don't look scrawny/underfed while also not giving them so much muscle that they look ridiculous. (I... I just like a little realism when it comes to my proportions, okay?)
That said, drawing their shells, specifically the back portion, is a pain in the arse.
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mutant-art · 8 days ago
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Prompt list!!!
We're starting this small project with our Christmas art challenge ☃️❄️🎄🌟
Traditional art, digital art, fan fiction, gifs, edits... All is welcome!!!
There is no order, you can start and continue with any prompt you like
Remember to use the tags so we can track and reblog your work!!!
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tmntpineapple · 1 year ago
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I’m draw the turtle RAHHHHHHHHH
I love ninja turttyrutjiej
I made each in different days so that’s why some styles look a bit silly or different ugfhuduhduu
NO I DOTN WANT TO DRAW NEXT MUTATION !!!,,!,,
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shadowwingtronix · 1 year ago
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The Many, MANY Intros Of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: The Live-Action One
BW Media Spotlight contines The Many, MANY Intros Of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles with The Live-Action One. Yeah, let's get it out of the way.
Not that ninjas from space isn’t cool, but it’s not their origin. And that was before the upcoming movie…wait a minute! I already did this one as part of the My Not-So-Favorite Intros series. So I can move on to…what? Updated information? Showcasing the UK version because that’s how this series works? Really? Aw shell! Fine. Ninja Turtles: The Next Mutation was Saban’s attempt at trying to do…
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