#Moon in 8th house

[pearlprincess02]

moon signs and your mommy issues

aries moon

as an aries moon, your mom likely sees you as a fiercely independent and bold individual, someone who thrives on challenges and isn't afraid to stand up for yourself. she might admire your strength but also feel frustrated by your impulsive nature and desire for autonomy, sometimes leading to clashes. this dynamic can create a push-pull effect, where you crave her approval yet resist her control, sparking deep-seated mommy issues. you might struggle with feeling misunderstood or unsupported emotionally, leading to a strong desire to prove yourself.

taurus moon

with a taurus moon, your mom likely views you as a stable, reliable presence who brings comfort and security to her life. she probably appreciates your grounded nature and the way you create a sense of peace and routine in your relationship. however, this steadfastness might sometimes lead to her perceiving you as resistant to change or overly focused on material stability, causing friction. you may struggle with feeling that your emotional needs aren't fully recognized or that you're expected to always be the rock, leading to unresolved mommy issues surrounding your self-worth and independence.

gemini moon

as a gemini moon, your mom likely sees you as intellectually curious and highly communicative, with a knack for keeping things lively and engaging. she probably values your quick wit and adaptability but might struggle with your tendency to be changeable or emotionally detached. this can lead to her perceiving you as unreliable or inconsistent, which could create tension in your relationship. your mommy issues may revolve around feeling misunderstood or neglected emotionally, as you might have a hard time balancing your need for emotional depth with your natural inclination toward mental stimulation and variety.

cancer moon

with a cancer moon, your mom likely sees you as deeply nurturing and emotionally sensitive, someone who provides a comforting and caring presence. she probably appreciates your intuitive understanding and ability to create a sense of home. however, your intense emotional needs and occasional mood swings might challenge her, leading to misunderstandings or feelings of being overwhelmed. this dynamic can result in mommy issues related to feeling either overly protected or inadequately supported, as you navigate the balance between your vulnerability and your desire for emotional security.

leo moon

as a leo moon, your mom likely sees you as a vibrant, confident individual who brings warmth and joy into her life. she probably admires your strong sense of self and creative flair, celebrating your ability to shine and seek attention. however, she might struggle with your need for validation and occasional dramatic tendencies, leading to occasional clashes. this dynamic can result in mommy issues related to feeling either overly praised or inadequately acknowledged, as you grapple with balancing your need for recognition with your desire for genuine emotional connection.

virgo moon

with a virgo moon, your mom likely views you as meticulous and reliable, someone who excels in problem-solving and offers practical support. she probably appreciates your attention to detail and your ability to maintain order, valuing your helpful and service-oriented nature. however, she might also feel that your critical eye or perfectionist tendencies create distance, leading to misunderstandings. this dynamic can spark mommy issues around feeling either overly scrutinized or undervalued, as you navigate the balance between your desire for approval and your need for emotional reassurance.

libra moon

as a libra moon, your mom likely sees you as a harmonious and charming individual who values balance and fairness in relationships. she probably admires your diplomatic nature and your ability to bring people together. however, she might struggle with your tendency to avoid conflict or make decisions based on others' expectations, leading to moments of frustration. this dynamic can result in mommy issues related to feeling either excessively pressured to maintain harmony or disconnected from your own needs, as you try to navigate your desire for peace and acceptance.

scorpio moon

with a scorpio moon, your mom likely sees you as intensely passionate and deeply intuitive, someone who isn't afraid to explore the depths of emotions. she probably respects your strength and resilience but may also find your emotional intensity and need for privacy challenging to navigate. this can lead to her feeling uncertain about how to connect with you or support you fully. your mommy issues might revolve around feeling misunderstood or overly controlled, as you struggle to balance your profound emotional depth with a desire for independence and acceptance.

sagittarius moon

as a sagittarius moon, your mom likely sees you as adventurous and optimistic, always eager to explore new ideas and experiences. she probably admires your enthusiasm and your ability to bring a sense of freedom and excitement into her life. however, she might find your restlessness and tendency to avoid routine challenging, leading to occasional frustration. this dynamic can create mommy issues related to feeling either misunderstood or unsupported, as you navigate the balance between your need for independence and your desire for emotional stability and understanding.

capricorn moon

with a capricorn moon, your mom likely views you as disciplined and responsible, someone who approaches life with a serious and practical mindset. she probably admires your ability to handle challenges with determination and to set high standards for yourself. however, she might find your emotional reserve and tendency to prioritize work over personal connection challenging, leading to occasional feelings of distance. this dynamic can result in mommy issues related to feeling either overly pressured to meet expectations or emotionally unsupported, as you strive to balance your need for achievement with your desire for genuine emotional closeness.

aquarius moon

as an aquarius moon, your mom likely sees you as innovative and unconventional, someone who brings a unique perspective and a strong sense of individuality to her life. she probably appreciates your open-mindedness and your ability to think outside the box. however, she might struggle with your emotional detachment or tendency to prioritize intellectual pursuits over personal connections, leading to occasional misunderstandings. this dynamic can create mommy issues related to feeling either disconnected or inadequately understood, as you balance your need for independence with your desire for emotional intimacy.

pisces moon

with a pisces moon, your mom likely views you as deeply empathetic and imaginative, someone who brings a sense of compassion and dreaminess to her life. she probably admires your ability to intuitively connect with others and your creative spirit. however, she might find your emotional sensitivity and tendency to escape into fantasy challenging, leading to moments of confusion or frustration. this dynamic can create mommy issues related to feeling either overwhelmed by emotional demands or misunderstood, as you navigate the balance between your need for emotional depth and your desire for personal space and clarity.

in houses

moon in 1st house: emotional sensitivity, attachment style, nurturing vs. overprotective, identity formation, self-image conflict, dependency issues, maternal influence, emotional outbursts, rebellion, unmet needs, boundary struggles, validation seeking, trauma response, independence vs. clinginess, healing wounds, emotional intensity, identity crisis, parental expectations, self-discovery journey, emotional healing

moon in 2nd house: self-worth issues, security needs, material comfort, emotional value, dependency on stability, financial anxiety, nurturing needs, self-esteem struggles, attachment to possessions, parental influence on values, validation through achievement, emotional resourcefulness, boundaries & control, trauma bonding, self-sufficiency vs. dependency, emotional insecurity, comfort seeking, trust issues, parental expectations on success, healing from financial stress

moon in 3rd house: communication struggles, emotional expression, sibling dynamics, parental communication styles, intellectual nurturing, mental health challenges, dependency on approval, emotional sharing, verbal disputes, learning from trauma, emotional conflicts, social anxiety, childhood conversations, cognitive dissonance, emotional intellect, family narratives, overthinking issues, memory & trauma, influence of siblings, validation through words

moon in 4th house: home life dynamics, emotional foundations, parental influence, childhood memories, family secrets, dependency on family, nurturing vs. neglect, security needs, emotional root issues, domestic conflicts, trauma in the home, parental expectations, unresolved family issues, emotional legacy, sense of belonging, domestic stability, ancestral patterns, attachment to home, emotional vulnerability, healing family trauma

moon in 5th house: creative expression, emotional validation, parental approval, self-esteem through creativity, nurturing through play, childhood joy vs. trauma, validation through performance, emotional drama, need for attention, unfulfilled desires, emotional risk-taking, parent-child bonding, playfulness vs. seriousness, self-worth through achievement, trauma & self-expression, emotional need for fun, artistic healing, parental expectations of success, romanticized childhood, emotional ups and downs

moon in 6th house: daily routine struggles, emotional workaholism, nurturing through service, parental influence on work ethic, health anxiety, perfectionism, self-care challenges, emotional responsibility, dependency on routine, workplace conflicts, trauma & health issues, emotional self-criticism, parental expectations of productivity, overwork & burnout, healing through work, emotional patterns in daily life, service as a coping mechanism, routine vs. emotional needs, emotional resilience, trauma impact on daily functioning

moon in 7th house: relationship dynamics, emotional dependency, partner validation, nurturing through relationships, conflict in partnerships, trauma bonding, seeking emotional security, marriage & emotional needs, projection onto partners, intimacy issues, partnership expectations, healing through relationships, relationship patterns, fear of abandonment, emotional compromise, idealizing partners, codependency, emotional balance in relationships, trauma & partnership conflicts, influence of parental relationship models

moon in 8th house: emotional intensity, deep-seated trauma, dependency on transformation, parental influence on power dynamics, fear of vulnerability, control issues, unresolved emotional wounds, intimacy & boundaries, psychological depth, emotional secrets, healing through crisis, power struggles, transformative relationships, dependency on emotional security, fear of abandonment, financial & emotional ties, inherited trauma, emotional rebirth, shadow work, trauma & control

moon in 9th house: emotional beliefs, search for meaning, dependency on ideals, parental influence on worldview, long-distance emotional connections, idealization of knowledge, trauma & belief systems, need for emotional freedom, struggles with expansion, educational trauma, emotional exploration, influence of culture, spiritual nurturing, unmet aspirations, emotional journeys, freedom vs. security, parental expectations on success, emotional disconnect from beliefs, trauma & philosophical views, healing through Exploration

moon in 10th house: public image, parental expectations, emotional career ambitions, authority figures, professional validation, parental influence on success, emotional responsibility, need for recognition, career-related trauma, authority struggles, emotional control issues, public vs. private self, ambition & emotional needs, professional identity conflicts, pressure to achieve, emotional legacy, work-life balance, healing through achievement, parental approval & success, emotional fulfillment in career

moon in 11th house: social connections, emotional needs in friendships, group dynamics, parental influence on social life, idealization of groups, dependency on social validation, trauma in social settings, emotional freedom through friendships, community support, emotional rejection, influence of peers, healing through social networks, expectations of social roles, loneliness vs. belonging, emotional impact of group activities, unfulfilled social aspirations, social security needs, trauma & group dynamics, friendships as emotional refuge, parental influence on social values

moon in 12th house: emotional isolation, unconscious patterns, hidden trauma, parental influence on subconscious, emotional retreat, self-sabotage, healing through solitude, dependency on solitude, repressed emotions, isolation vs. connection, spiritual nurturing, parental secrets, trauma & spiritual growth, emotional boundaries, unresolved past wounds, emotional escape, inner conflict, influence of dreams, emotional vulnerability in seclusion, healing through reflection

all observations are done by me !!! @pearlprincess02

[martian-astro10]

Astrology observations - Part 3 (use whole signs)

🎀 For a lot of people with moon in 7th house, their mother had a huge impact on their personality (in a good or bad way). They'll either admire her a lot and try to be more like her or, do their best to not be like her. Their mother usually has a lot of say in who they marry. If the ascendant lord is not strong, then these people completely change after marriage and start to behave in a way in which their spouse would like them to.

🐈‍⬛Saturn in 9th house people can be really good when it comes to their career, they end up getting promoted earlier than others, but I've noticed that they prefer to work alone. It's like, they create something, but they would like someone else to market and sell it since communication is not their strong suit. Can be very introverted, not the best at taking initiatives, are very prone to undermining themselves.

🎀 moon in 11th house people have a really good relationship with their kids (unless it's debilitated). It doesn't matter if you're a guy or a girl, it's the same for both. They're the parents who have a very "chill" relationship with their kids, their kids trust them a lot, treat them as a friend. All my friends who have a great and healthy relationship with their parents, 85% of those parents had moon in 11th.

🐈‍⬛ Mars in 5th house people have such an "interesting" dating life; love triangles, friends with benefits, they've (or will) experienced it all. The people to say "it's complicated" when you ask them about their love life. But I've also seen that these people are very accepting of other people's dating preferences, this is one of the things that I really admire about them, this can result in them having a very diverse group of friends.

🎀 Jupiter aspecting ascendant/midheaven is one of the best placements that you could possibly have. I was going through celebrities' charts and I noticed that the ones who were exceptionally popular or rich had this like 90% of the time. With opposition and square it can indicate that people hate you at first, but then some info comes out and suddenly everyone loves you, but you gotta go through the hate first. Conjunction can go either way depending on the sign.

🐈‍⬛ Saturn in 4th house women have my full respect, like, these people go through so much shit in their life and yet they're so hardworking and never give up. Their mother was probably their worst enemy growing up. If you know someone who has this, give them a hug, they're carrying so much burden, and yet they never show it. You'll never hear these people complaining about life, have a very, "it's okay, problems come and go, you can't be sad all the time" mentality.

🎀 Sun in 1st house people make me so angry, I don't get along with them. They have such a shitty personality, and always wanna fight for absolutely no reason. Start a beef out of nowhere, but they are so fucking good at their job, that's actually what makes me hate them more. My class representative has this, and she's such a bitch, but she's so responsible, it breaks my fucking heart, can't even complain 😔

🐈‍⬛ Mercury in 11th house people have unmatched Rizz, will charm the pants off you (unless it's debilitated). I'm so jealous of people who have this. I know people with this, who are not conventionally attractive but their charm is what makes people like them. I never knew what it meant to be attracted to someone's personality until I met someone who had this. (I know this sounds like a backhanded compliment, but it's really not)

🎀 I have never in my life met a moon in 8th house person who was like....okay. these people will have a mental breakdown almost every week. Can't take criticism AT ALL. I have seen that people with this have a tendency to date whoever they see once they break up, just to show their ex how "wanted" they are, and it's not healthy because a lot of their hook ups have bad intentions. Have a habit of playing the victim "everyone bullies me 🥺" "I have the hardest life" and blah blah. On a positive note, they can handle fame really well because of their ability to manipulate people, once you get in their trap and start liking them, you'll never be able to hate them.

🐈‍⬛ I never see people talking about how smart Venus in 3rd house people are. I'm always so amazed by the way they carry conversations. A lot of women who have won beauty paegents have this because of how nice their answers were. A lot of young politicians have this as well. Their juniors often look up to them.

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[oliviamillss]

astro observations pt 9

*solar return edition*

sun conjunct jupiter seem to absolutely thrive that year, they seem to well and truly find themselves, and who they are when maybe they were restricted before.

quite obvious, but i always found looking back if i have 50%+ aspects being harsh in my solar return chart, the year is very tough. i've also seen this w my friends chart aswell.

in turn, if it is mainly harmonious aspects the year is all round very good!

venus conjunct jupiter also seem to have such a great sense of style this year, and that being a focus. i have also seen them form and maintain some amazing friendships.

4h stellium manifests in different ways, but one way is attachment issues. maybe you really struggle being separate from your family this year, or maybe you feel guilt and that you constantly need to be with them.

sagittarius rising is a big travel indicator.

moon in 8th could show you are healing from something emotionally traumatic.

moon in 4th see family as a priority that year.

NN conjunct mc/ mars conjunct mc/ mars conjunct NN tend to be very ambitious this year, and put a lot of effort into succeeding. this could be within a career, or anything that works in hand with that professional status eg university.

jupiter in the houses whilst showing abundance, could also represent a fear of lacking such, eg jupiter in 11h may fear not making friends (even though they end up making loads).

aqua on dc can represent a large switch up romantically, like multiple talking stages, or maybe it feels a bit 'all over the place'. it could mean breakups. it may also indicate online being a huge factor romantically as well.

leo risings tend to grow in confidence a lottt that year.

charts where most (if not all) planets are in houses 1-6 tend to be more focused on yourself, your mental health, your priorities etc. you may feel lonely, but your priority is you. you may hide yourself, not necessarily physically (but can be), your personality, your hobbies etc.

in turn, charts where most (if not all) planets are in houses 7-12 tend to be focused on others. this could be friends or partners, or maybe even others perception of you. you may also compare yourself a lot. you also show so much of yourself.

[myun-saidthoughts]

Reasons Why Water House Synastry Is Karmic and Intense:

In this post, I want to address some reasons why water house (4th, 8th, and 12th) synastry can be very intense, very transformational and why it creates/increases codependency.

(the basis of this thread is the fact that there is attraction and desire within the romantic connection, and the depth of feeling will run more true if you share multiple other intense synastry aspects/past life connections. Friendships/family relations that have heavy 8th/12th house synastry overlays manifest *very* differently)

Each water house has one common factor, and that's with these type of synastry overlays; you will feel seen or accepted. In some way, some form, the severity of it depends (as usual), but

if you struggle with:

4TH House:

Showing your true character to others without the fear of being judged.

Sharing your inner thoughts to others with ease and safeness.

The fact that you never felt/had a safe home, so now you long for that feeling (of being at ease/comfortable with someones presence).

Feeling ease and comfortability within your environment or within yourself, instead you experienced that those feelings came at a cost.

Feeling secure when you're meeting others/being open to others.

Stating your inner thoughts or feelings outwardly and confidently.

Trusting others.

8TH House: If you struggle with:

Self acceptance.

Self worth.

Self love.

Self confidence.

Accepting/receiving love.

Having low respect for yourself (meaning how others treat you may be hurtful but because of lack of validation within, you allow or accept that behavior).

Having a pattern where the way others treat you either gives or takes away validation your inner wounds need.

Deeply craving emotional closeness yet fearing it at the same time.

Allowing yourself to desire love.

The fact you're emotionally unavailable; so you're unsure with how to deal with romance, and yet a part of you still deeply desires a partner.

These also may resonate if you have 8H Placements, Pluto aspecting inner planets/Scorpio placements.

12TH House: If you struggle with:

Emotionally availability/allowing someone to see you, all of you.

Receiving tangible, stable, harmonious, love.

Having a habit to/find it easier to fix or save someone in hopes of changing their self destructive habits or mental health issues. This type of tendency creates an avoidance within yourself especially if you don't focus on your own needs or problems. (it's easier to focus on someone else's pain rather than your own)

Feeling safe with the idea of not being needed, instead you choose to be the giver or other woman since it subconsciously keeps you at a distance of being openly loved (which is something you subconsciously fear)

Holding the deep desire to feel seen past the physical 3D.

Allowing yourself to receive the type of love you're able to give/shower another.

Wanting to fix or heal someone's mental health wounds or problems, you find it safer to be their savior rather than have a true give and take partnership.

(These also may resonate if you have 12H, Neptune aspecting inner planets/Pisces placements)

These are a few examples of how intense these synastry overlays may manifest if you are struggling with the above statements. I briefly mentioned a few indicators, needless to say they are more and each synastry chart or even natal chart will always paint the picture better of how deep these relationships can manifest.

then 4th, 8th, and 12th house synastry will cause internal shift within, whether you want it to or not.

4th House: With the 4th house and when someone walks into your life and they ignite your IC, the part of your character that you readily hide becomes unlocked. If you personally have struggled with being comfortable in your skin, or have struggled with feeling secure with who you are as you are, then this person to you will feel like a comfort blanket. Their presence will shift you into a mood where all you feel is safe, present, and in the moment. With them, you will feel complete in showcasing your inner world and your inner thoughts. Their presence will become this key that you didn't even knew you need. It'll feel easy with them, and there is no hesitation, confusion or worry. You can't feel worry, and it's not because they insistently tell you not to feel anxious, you just naturally won't. You guys will likely share the same humor or communication style, and if there is a Venus conjunct IC then the IC person will feel this romantic pull with showcasing their personality outwardly that they won't be able to shake towards the Venus person. Overall these feelings are especially true if you struggle with letting someone in, if it takes some time for you to allow someone else to see your personality or thoughts, then they will feel like a cure for allowing to let that side of you out and when you're next to them; you'll feel like you're finally home.

Example: you walk into a bar and they make eye contact with you, you instantly smile, they instantly smile, and the conversation that ignites feels as if you just spoke to them. It could be weeks, months even since you last saw them but the comfortability between the two of you oozes out in a way where it feels like they just came back home to you. (especially if you share heavy 3H synastry overlays as well or if their mercury softly aspects your inner planets, vice versa)

The reason why this type of connection can be hard to let go of is because their presence might cause or create a codependent need in you for them in order to feel "safe." All their presence is doing is igniting the secure feeling in you that you wish you had, you finally can look into another's eyes and feel that type of comfortability you've always been scared enough to unlock or accept. Your private thoughts and characteristics feel safe next to them, and because of that, they create this security within you won't know how to let go of. So, all they are doing is unleashing your wish of being your truest self without fearing the consequences of being seen for who you are.

In some cases, 4th house synastry may not run as intense, and some say it can be 'mundane' or boring, especially if you don't struggle with the listed wounds I stated, or if you don't share other intense or cute attraction synastry aspects with them; but in essence this individual will feel like a grounding force.

The bond you can form with them is tangible, it's secure, and it feels real. So, letting them go will feel as though you're letting go the one desire of ever revealing your private inner self with ease, especially if this is a part of you that you've been too afraid to openly show or even accept.

Songs That Relate

Look After You - The Fray

Chasing Cars - Snow Patrol

Control - Zoe Wees

Hey Stranger - Billie Flynn

8th House: With the 8th house, these type of connections are more intense, and naturally so. With this type of synastry, and if you struggle with self acceptance especially with self love or self worth, then letting go of this connection will feel near to impossible. It will feel like life or death if they walk away from you, and it will feel like a part of you dies every time they don't give you the reassurance or acknowledgment your soul wishes for. Their eyes alone, tell you it's time to let that wall down and without effort your wall crumbles. You know that if they leave, a part of you will leave with them but if your wound of wishing to be accepted runs so deep within, you can't help but take that risk. You're aware that the unavoidable low following their absence will cut deep, yet instead of walking away, you prepare yourself for its inevitable arrival.

You allow that pain to embody you because that pain hurts less than not feeling those moments of acceptance that they are able to give you, especially if it's what you've always reluctantly wished for.

With their presence that void of wanting emotional closeness that you've always longed for will feel like it has vanished, their eyes alleviate the long-ignored half-empty feeling, and so the part of you that wishes to been seen, the part of you that wishes to feel accepted, the part of you that wants to be vulnerable won't know how to let go.

You could run into them and it could be weeks, months even and if you still struggle with loving yourself in the way you wish they would, their presence will create this upheaval that will shake within you, this synastry holds cycles, loops, ups and down to the point of where if you don't hate them, a part of you will still want them.

This synastry creates a dynamic where this soul that entered your life is only igniting the parts of you that you, yourself don't accept, love or acknowledge. Their presence becomes this band-aid that somehow soothes the deepest parts of you that have been abandoned, and their presence soothes the part of you that you yourself believe you can't heal. This fear then creates a scarcity mindset that can cause you to become someone you're not, and even if you logically know what is objectively best to do in situations to not create more intensity within the connection; there's just a part of you that can't care.

The reason why this type of connection can be hard to let go of is because their presence might cause or create a codependent need in you to have them in order to feel "seen." Their presence gives you a sense of acceptance where you allow yourself to accept love in. If you struggle with emotional abandonment, or fear love, then their presence will feel like a "skip the line" pass with inner healing the parts of you that feel broken.

The reason why 8th house synastry is discussed so promptly and openly is because these feelings that persist (when dealing with inner wounds) become such catalysts of growth and ego deaths; but that is only because this connection allows in the hope for love you've been wishing for all your life. You want to be held, you want to be cared for and loved in a way that you've never received, and this person presences grants that sole wish. They bring you that one solace feeling that you've never felt and because of that, letting them go is letting go the one key that makes you feel worthy, seen, and accepted.

Their presence creates this codependent need within because they become this one "thing" that you think you need in order to fulfill that self love wound you keep repressing. You'll start to rely on them for emotional clarity or serenity, you'll start to "need them" in order to feel good, and you'll expect them to make you feel "better" emotionally and if they fail to meet those expectations, all you'd be faced with is the unwavering feeling of the lack of self love or worth you're too afraid to self develop.

The love you're so readily able to give them, is what your soul is asking you to give yourself.

*Those who have prominent natal Scorpio or 8th house placements as well as having Pluto aspecting harshly their inner planets or ascendant will feel these trials and errors more*

Songs That Relate:

Locksmith/You Don't - Sadie Jean

Addicted - Kelly Clarkson

Im Yours/Heartbeat - Isabel LaRose

Just a Little Bit of Your Heart - Ariana Grand

Heavenly - Cigarettes After Sex

Is There Somewhere - Halsey

12th house:

This post focuses exclusively on a 12th house relationship between two kind and evolved individuals. While there are other darker themes associated with 12th house synastry — such as deception, substance abuse, hidden affairs (like being the other woman or mistress), lies about one partner’s true nature, or fear that one partner is withholding information or their true self — I won’t be discussing those here. I might explore those themes in a future post, as they are important to note, but for now, my main focus will not include those themes.

“Though I barely know you, it feels as if I do. Your eyes and body language seem to speak your thoughts, even the ones I can’t fully grasp. There’s no visible thread connecting us, yet this feeling remains.” — Planet Person

With the 12th house, this synastry unlocks so many different routes and experiences. Many factors influence how each individual can feel towards this ethereal connection. One way this synastry can manifest is through the tendency for the 12th house to cloud, confuse, and bring hesitancy into the connection. In some cases, Person A (or the person who has heavy Neptune/Pisces/12th house placements) will feel as though they can read Person B in such a deep and subconscious way; this type of knowing may even be hidden from Person B to the extent that they are unaware of their own subconscious emotional needs, thoughts or feelings, and yet (especially if there's care or desire on their end) Person A can read Person B like a book. 12th house synastry can be so thought provoking because of the absolute depth and surreal feeling it can add into the connection. The planet person (or the person who has heavy Neptune/Pisces/12th house placements) will feel this innate drive to be with the house person (or the other partner who isn't as spiritual adept). It's as if one partner, driven by an innate need to give endlessly, is profusely tossing their sole bucket of water into the vast ocean of the other partner's needs. The giver (or the person who has heavy Neptune/Pisces/12th house placements) is so focused on giving that they overlook the importance of receiving, while the receiver remains oblivious.

If Person B remains unaware of the deep spiritual bond between them that can manifest, they may perceive Person A's actions as invasive or unnecessary. Person A, recognizing wounds in Person B that Person B may not be aware of can evoke a sense of fear in Person B, this has to deal with the issue of them not allowing or accepting a form of love that they believe (Person B) doesn't serve them.

If this scenario resonates with you, then this individual is provoking a wound within yourself that deals with the acceptance of receiving authentic love. This innate need to only give highlights your own fear of receiving real reciprocal, stable, tangible love.

In this scenario where one party wants to save, fix, heal or give, highlights that fearful nature within you where you allow to stay in shallow waters. You subconsciously know that you have such passionate love to give, but that thought of giving to someone who in turn might be willing to give back evokes fear and uncertainty within you.

This subconscious block holds more comfortability within you since it allows you to never accept a love where your soul will fully be fulfilled. It's self sabotaging and self written, you naturally already know how the story will end between you two, and so you subconsciously will find a character who perfectly embodies the story you yourself say you try to run from.

On the other hand this synastry (when desired and when it's dealing with highly evolved individuals) can unlock such deep soulfulness between both partners. Between the two parties, it'll feel as if they have found someone that can finally understand them better than anyone ever has, it'll feel dreamy and mystical. It'll feel as if their body language writes stories that you could only read.

In a pure sense, one partner that desires the other very deeply and whole heartedly wants to make sure that their partner is seen, and understood. And this comes from a very sincere place and if the other receiving partner allows that kind of love in while being okay with giving that same love back, that is when this type of connection can be ideal.

Now in this scenario, this type of codependent nature deals with over emphasizing redemption with no boundaries. If there is solid exchangeable love, a part of you may believe there is always more good than bad within them or within the relationship, and so their wrongdoings or unacceptable behavior to you or to others somehow receives justification or more understanding than he or she should receive. (especially if you also share 8th house synastry with them). As well as it's important to understand that if there is this innate understanding given by one partner that's always present when there shouldn't be, that's when the relationship can become overwhelming, or draining. Just because you know, understand or empathize with the other partner's actions or patterns doesn't make their actions okay.

This type of dynamic receives interchanging parts, with the 12th house things can lack a solid foundation and have a lack crystal clear communication, some days you both won't deal with struggling dynamics, then one day Partner 1 acts out, to which Partner 2 cuirasses and holds, then a few weeks later Partner 2 acts out and Partner 1 comes to their aid.

Truly the amount of stories, experiences, how Person 1 will feel vs Person 2 is genuinely so intercomplicated and nuanced. Each story lies within the two parties involved, with this house they are just so many different routes and avenues it can uphold, so this particular post may not cover every ounce of information on 12th house synastry. If you are curious to learn more only about this synastry I have a long updated post titled "Understanding 12th House Synastry" and it's far more in-depth (click the text).

In essence, how the other partner receives this type of boundless understanding calls for them to be a very kind and open individual. It's important to understand and recognize red flags or self undoing patterns. Staying aware of the actual real situation instead of sitting in bed thinking of the "What if's" are key. Their posts may not be about you, that song on their story can be just a song, remember that. Especially if the individual lacks self awareness or care on their end.

Finally, I don't believe water house synastry holds malicious energy or serves as a dictatorship with stating how the relationship will fail. Not every synastry overlay is set for such intense energy or uncomfortable experiences, each planet in a natal chart holds different themes. What truly matters at the end of the day are the two souls involved within the connection. Desire, care, love, and acceptance are all foundational keys for any relationship to last even those with or without water house synastry. Accepting yourself in the purest form when it comes to each water house theme (4,8,12) is key.

Your natal chart when it comes to synastry serves as a mirror within yourself, everything you are feeling for someone else is already sitting within you.

Don't forget that.

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Vedic Astro - How You React to Breakups/Endings

Accuracy is influenced by the entire chart. This is only a few observations - not all signs included.

Sag 8th house - Generally, this shows a natural urge to connect with higher experiences and beliefs after endings such as breakups. However, for accuracy we have to look at the entire chart.

For example: Sag 8th house - ruler (Jupiter) in 6th house = This can show life throws more responsibilities/obligations at you after a breakup. You can have more to do at work. You can spend more time with pets. You an be in positions where you are providing a service to those who need your help.

Cancer 8th house - This can show a person seeks comfort. They can spend more time with their family and other close loved ones. They can spend more time at home. However, for accuracy we have to look at the entire chart.

For example: Cancer 8th house - ruler (Moon) in 11th house = A person can seek to connect with society. Possibly they felt in the relationship they became introverted or a homebody. Maybe they took on a nurturing role. After the breakup, they can want to connect with their youth and/or new people, new experiences.

Taurus or Libra 8th House - Generally, this indicates a focus on seeking pleasures after endings/breakups. What brings one pleasure will vary - one can desire materialistic items, food, sex, etc. However, for accuracy we have to look at the entire chart - especially where Venus the ruler is placed.

Gemini 8th House - This can make on become more social. They can become distracted or look for distractions from the breakup. They can write and speak about the breakup a lot. However, for accuracy we have to look at the entire chart.

For example: Gemini 8th house - ruler (Mercury) in 12th house = This can make one become cautious of who they discuss the details of their breakup with. They can become isolated. They can seek solitude from casual friends and desire to spend time with those who they have a deeper connection with.

Aries 8th House - One can become more active. For example: Aries 8th house - ruler (Mars) in 2nd house. Depending on the Mars placement, this person can recklessly spend, speak and eat. Or they become motivated to actively improve their wealth and body.

❤️‍🔥 Dasha periods activate certain placements in your chart. You may not relate to a placement at all until it is activated. For example:

Megan Fox has Moon in 8th house. During her current dasha period (Sun/Moon), she has activated her 8th house and Moon placement. Amongst many things, 8th house is endings/breakups and Moon is motherhood.

In her case, this time period has resulted in breaking up with her on n off partner and being pregnant with his child.

Ofc this won't be the case for everyone with Moon in 8th house. However, when paired with a chart that has strong divorce indicators, embracing single motherhood after a breakup/divorce becomes a possible outcome.

In her partner's chart (MGK), he is currently in a Mercury/Jupiter period. Jupiter rules his 8th house of endings and Mercury rules his 5th house of children.

[elysiansparadise]

Heyyo !! Hope you're doing well. I have a question if are going continue your planets in houses series for 8th House moon

Hello! I’m doing just fine, I hope you too. Of course I will continue, until I’ve covered each placement. 🤎 

Moon in the 8th house

They are people of complex nature, since many of them tend to be very cautious when it comes to opening up to new people, they do not trust their hearts so easily in others and they can even show themselves as very self-sufficient in the emotional field, however, these natives internally desire a deep degree of emotional intimacy, even bordering on emotional. They prefer intense, meaningful ties that really contribute something to their lives rather than something superficial and vain. This is usually something difficult for them because it is difficult for them to open up and want to meet new people. This is due more than anything to a fear of appearing vulnerable, manipulable and, mostly, due to bad experiences with previous relationships. It’s likely that the relationship with the family, mother or a specific member was tense and taught them to always be alert for any sign of lying or betrayal. They detect people who show false emotions or who lie, as they stand out for being observant. They may prefer to make decisions based on their mind rather than their heart, and it is likely that at some point in their life they ignored their emotional needs, both other people and themselves. They fear that they will feel a lot and get hurt or that the other person will not give themselves in that devoted and passionate way with which they do it.

For them it is crucial to give their all when it comes to something important or meaningful to them, they do not give themselves halfway. They find it difficult to be expressive, but once they are comfortable enough they are very constant with their demonstrations of affection or appreciation. They have this ability to feel the emotions of others and tend to accurately deduce the emotional triggers and needs of others. They have a genuine curiosity to know the core of those who matter to them, they will want to know every part of your mind, your history and everything that your heart is silent about, this in order to understand you better. In the sexual field, they need a certain emotional closeness or feeling in love to fully enjoy. A pretty face is not enough for them and they tend to be very attracted to complex, interesting and understanding personalities. They give themselves completely, body and soul, and there is nothing they like more than feeling that their partner does the same. Aftercare is crucial and necessary.

They know how to be alone and highly value their time with themselves, they are introspective with their emotions and they like to get to the root of things. A lie can be something unforgivable for many of them and they will always prefer a very honest truth over a white or sugar-coated lie. Their intuition is very strong and they may feel an attraction or even have a knack for things like tarot, astrology or similar things. They read you like a book, but you can hardly do the same with them. They have a deep connection with their unconscious. It is likely that since they were children they have had very intense spiritual experiences and that the mystical world seems truly fascinating to them. They have one goal [among their many goals] to become the adult they felt they needed when they were children, since it is likely that their inner child carries a feeling of fear and insecurity. They are people who behind their strong and empowered personality is someone sensitive and compassionate. People often see them as a very strong pillar in which to fully trust, and it is likely that only the natives themselves are aware of their emotional intensity, as others describe them as calm and collected most of the time.

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8th house and spiritual experiences 🌌🕯️💜🖤 - the good & the bad (Sun to Pluto)

SENSITIVITIES (the good)

Sun in the 8th house (Sensitivity to Spiritual Transformation):

With the Sun in the 8th house, individuals have a heightened sensitivity to spiritual transformation and the depths of the unconscious mind. They may be naturally drawn to explore the spiritual and mystical aspects of life.

Spiritual Experiences: These individuals often have profound spiritual experiences that involve personal transformation and rebirth. They may undergo a spiritual awakening that leads to a deep understanding of the interconnectedness of all life. The 8th house energy can facilitate a sense of merging with higher consciousness.

Depth of Spiritual Exploration: With the Sun in the 8th house, individuals are driven by an insatiable curiosity to explore the depths of existence beyond the material world. They are naturally drawn to esoteric and mystical teachings, seeking to uncover hidden truths and spiritual insights that lie beneath the surface. This placement fosters a sense of urgency to understand the mysteries of life, death, and transformation on a profound level.

Sensitivity to Energies: Sun in the 8th house bestows an acute sensitivity to energies and entities that exist beyond the veil of the physical world. They may have vivid spiritual experiences, such as encounters with spirit guides, profound dreams, or out-of-body experiences. This heightened sensitivity allows them to bridge the gap between the seen and unseen realms.

Unearthing Hidden Realities: These individuals possess an innate talent for unearthing, discovering hidden spiritual realities. They are not content with superficial answers but are relentless in their pursuit of uncovering the concealed aspects of their own consciousness and the collective unconscious. Their heightened sensitivity allows them to penetrate the veils of illusion and reach into the hidden chambers of the soul.

Fearlessness in the Face of Darkness: Sun in the 8th house individuals are unafraid to confront the darkness within themselves and in the world around them. They possess a unique fearlessness when it comes to diving into the shadowy corners of the human psyche. This courage enables them to explore their own unresolved issues and confront the fears that often hold others back from spiritual growth.

Transformative Power: The 8th house is associated with transformation, rebirth, and regeneration, and when the Sun is placed here, it infuses the individual with a potent transformative power in their spiritual journey. They have the capacity to undergo profound inner shifts, shedding old identities and beliefs to emerge as spiritually evolved beings. This transformative energy can be harnessed for their own growth and the benefit of others.

Magnetic Attraction to the Occult: These individuals are irresistibly drawn to the occult, the mystical, and the metaphysical. They may find themselves naturally attuned to practices such as astrology, tarot, energy healing, or shamanic rituals. The hidden aspects of spirituality hold a magnetic appeal for them, and they may become skilled practitioners in these esoteric arts.

Connection to Others: Their sensitivity to spiritual energies also extends to their interactions with others. They have an empathetic connection to the spiritual experiences and journeys of those around them. This enables them to provide support, guidance, and healing to others on their spiritual paths.

Mystical Illumination: At their best, individuals with Sun in the 8th house can experience moments of profound mystical illumination. These moments may feel like a merging with divine consciousness or a deep connection to the universal source of all existence. This illumination serves as a guiding light in their spiritual quest, offering clarity and purpose.

Challenges (the bad)

Egoic Attachment to Spiritual Experiences: There is a risk that individuals with Sun in the 8th house may become egoically attached to their spiritual experiences. They might use their heightened sensitivity to spiritual matters as a means to gain a sense of superiority or as a source of personal validation, which can hinder genuine spiritual growth.

Power Struggles in Spiritual Groups: These individuals may be drawn to spiritual communities or groups where power dynamics and control issues can be prevalent. Their sensitivity to power struggles may lead them to become embroiled in conflicts or manipulative situations within these contexts.

Overemphasis on Dark or Taboo Spiritual Practices: Due to their intense interest in hidden or transformative aspects of spirituality, they might be drawn to dark or taboo spiritual practices that can be harmful or exploitative. This can lead to negative spiritual experiences and a potential descent into destructive spiritual paths.

Obsession with Death and the Afterlife: While their sensitivity to the mysteries of life and death can be profound, it may also lead to an unhealthy preoccupation with mortality and the afterlife. This obsession can hinder their ability to live fully in the present moment and lead to anxiety or existential crises.

Manipulative Use of Spiritual Insight: Like Pluto in the 8th house, individuals with this placement may possess deep spiritual insight, but they could misuse this perception to manipulate others who are vulnerable or in search of spiritual guidance. This can lead to ethical dilemmas and harm to others' spiritual journeys.

Spiritual Arrogance: There's a potential for these individuals to develop spiritual arrogance, believing that their understanding of spiritual matters is superior to others. This can alienate them from genuine spiritual communities and create a sense of isolation.

Avoidance of Personal Shadow Work: Their sensitivity to the unconscious can lead to a temptation to bypass personal shadow work or unresolved psychological issues. They may use spiritual experiences as a means to escape facing their own inner challenges, hindering their spiritual evolution.

Challenges of the Shadow: While this placement grants incredible depth and spiritual insight, it also comes with challenges. The depths of the unconscious can be both enlightening and daunting, and individuals with Sun in the 8th house may grapple with their own inner demons and psychological complexities. It's crucial for them to engage in ongoing shadow work and self-reflection to navigate these depths.

SENSITIVITIES (the good)

Moon in the 8th House (Spiritual intuition):

Moon in the 8th house individuals possess a strong sensitivity to their own spiritual intuition and the unseen energies that shape their spiritual path. They may have a keen sense of emotional and spiritual interconnectedness.

Emotional Intensity in Spiritual Pursuits: Individuals with Moon in the 8th house approach their spiritual journey with a remarkable emotional intensity. Their emotions are intimately intertwined with their spiritual experiences, often leading to profound emotional and spiritual transformations. This depth of feeling allows them to connect with the spiritual dimensions on a visceral level.

Intuitive Insight into the Unconscious: These individuals possess a heightened intuition and psychic sensitivity that allows them to tap into the unconscious realms with ease. They may have vivid dreams, psychic experiences, and a strong inner knowing that guides them in their spiritual quest. Their intuition serves as a valuable compass in navigating the hidden aspects of spirituality.

Empathy for Others' Spiritual Journeys: Moon in the 8th house individuals have a natural empathy for the spiritual experiences and emotional struggles of others. They can intuitively sense the emotional undercurrents in their relationships and offer emotional support and guidance to those on their spiritual paths. This empathy fosters deep connections with like-minded souls.

Embracing the Dark and the Light: This placement encourages individuals to embrace both the light and the shadow aspects of spirituality. They are unafraid to confront their own emotional wounds and the darker aspects of their psyche. This willingness to explore the depths of their own consciousness leads to personal growth and spiritual enlightenment.

Cycles of Emotional Transformation: The Moon is associated with cycles, and in the 8th house, individuals may experience profound emotional and spiritual transformations in cyclical patterns. These cycles of inner renewal and rebirth mirror the transformative energies of the 8th house and deepen their spiritual understanding with each cycle.

Spiritual Healing Through Emotional Expression: They have a unique capacity to use emotional expression as a means of spiritual healing. Engaging in practices like journaling, art, or music can help them process their emotional and spiritual experiences and facilitate profound inner shifts.

Nurturing the Soul: The Moon's nurturing energy extends to the soul for these individuals. They have a deep desire to nurture and care for their spiritual well-being, seeking solace in practices that offer emotional and spiritual sustenance. This may include meditation, prayer, or spiritual retreats.

Mystical Connection to the Divine: At their best, Moon in the 8th house individuals can establish a mystical connection to the divine. They may experience moments of profound emotional and spiritual union with the universal source of love and wisdom. These moments of divine connection provide them with deep spiritual fulfillment and purpose.

Challenges (the bad)

Emotional Turbulence in Spiritual Pursuits: Individuals with Moon in the 8th house may experience intense emotional ups and downs in their spiritual journey. These emotional fluctuations can lead to inner turmoil and difficulty maintaining a consistent spiritual practice.

Attachment to Emotional Drama: There's a risk of becoming overly attached to emotional drama or intensity in spiritual experiences. They may seek out chaotic or emotionally charged spiritual situations, which can be draining and disruptive to their well-being.

Struggles with Emotional Boundaries: These individuals may struggle with emotional boundaries in spiritual contexts, leading to emotional overwhelm or vulnerability to manipulation by others who recognize their emotional sensitivity.

Fear of the Unknown: Despite their depth of emotional understanding, they may have a fear of delving into the unknown realms of spirituality. This fear can hinder their ability to embrace new spiritual experiences and concepts.

Emotional Vulnerability in Spiritual Pursuits: Moon in the 8th house individuals may find themselves emotionally vulnerable in their spiritual pursuits. Their sensitivity can make them more susceptible to emotional turbulence and upheaval, especially when confronted with the intense energies of the unconscious. It is important for them to cultivate emotional resilience and self-care practices.

SENSITIVITIES (the good)

Mercury in the 8th House (Sensitivity to Hidden Spiritual Knowledge):

Mercury in the 8th house suggests a sensitivity to hidden spiritual knowledge and the ability to communicate about spiritual topics with depth and insight. These individuals may have a natural gift for uncovering hidden truths.

Intellectual Depth in Spiritual Inquiry: Individuals with Mercury in the 8th house possess a keen and probing intellect that drives them to explore the hidden dimensions of spirituality. They approach spiritual matters with an analytical mind, seeking to uncover the underlying truths and mysteries that often elude others.

Communication as a Tool for Transformation: Mercury's influence in the 8th house highlights the transformative power of communication. These individuals have a unique ability to articulate their spiritual insights and experiences, making them effective conveyors of esoteric knowledge. They can inspire and guide others on their spiritual journeys through the power of words.

Sensitivity to Symbolism and Esoteric Language: Their sensitivity extends to symbolism, metaphors, and esoteric language often used in spiritual teachings. They intuitively grasp the deeper meanings behind these symbols, allowing them to connect with the profound wisdom embedded within spiritual texts and teachings.

Psychological Insight into the Unconscious: Mercury in the 8th house fosters a profound understanding of the human psyche and the workings of the unconscious mind. They may excel in fields like psychology, psychoanalysis, or depth therapy, using their intellectual acumen to delve into the hidden recesses of the human soul.

Gifted in Uncovering Hidden Truths: These individuals are gifted in uncovering hidden truths and exposing secrets, both within themselves and in the world around them. Their intellectual curiosity and intuitive insights enable them to unravel mysteries and bring the hidden into the light.

Mystical Insight through Communication: Their communication skills can lead to mystical insights during moments of deep reflection or meditation. They may receive profound spiritual guidance or epiphanies through the act of verbalizing their thoughts or engaging in meaningful conversations.

Teaching and Sharing Spiritual Wisdom: Mercury's presence in the 8th house encourages these individuals to share their spiritual wisdom with others. They may become teachers, mentors, or writers who convey complex spiritual concepts in a clear and accessible manner.

Challenges (the bad)

Overintellectualization of Spirituality: Those with Mercury in the 8th house may be prone to overintellectualizing spiritual matters. They may become overly analytical and skeptical, which can block them from embracing the more intuitive and mystical aspects of spirituality.

Compulsive Need for Spiritual Knowledge: Their thirst for knowledge can become compulsive, leading to information overload and spiritual materialism. They may collect spiritual information without truly integrating it into their practice or personal growth.

Difficulty Expressing Spiritual Insights: While they may have deep spiritual insights, they might struggle to effectively communicate their experiences or understanding to others. This can lead to frustration and isolation in spiritual communities.

Cynicism and Skepticism: Their analytical nature may lead to cynicism and skepticism toward spiritual teachers, practices, or traditions. This skepticism can hinder their ability to trust and fully immerse themselves in spiritual experiences.

SENSITIVITIES (the good)

Venus in the 8th House (Spiritual Connections):

Venus in the 8th house indicates a sensitivity to spiritual bonds, deep connections, and the transformative power of spiritual relationships. These individuals may seek profound spiritual experiences through their connections with others.

Spiritual Experiences: These individuals often experience deep, spiritual connections with others, which can lead to profound experiences of love and transformation. They may explore the spiritual dimensions of love and relationships, seeking to merge their hearts and souls with others on a spiritual level.

Deep Emotional Connection to Spiritual Experiences: Individuals with Venus in the 8th house approach their spiritual journey with a deep emotional connection. They seek to understand the spiritual dimensions of love, intimacy, and human connection. For them, spiritual experiences often involve a profound sense of emotional bonding with the divine and with others on a spiritual level.

Transformation Through Love and Relationships: Venus's influence in the 8th house highlights the transformative power of love and relationships in their spiritual growth. They may experience profound inner shifts and personal evolution through their connections with others, especially in romantic and deep, soulful relationships.

Sensitivity to the Mysteries of Love and Desire: These individuals possess a heightened sensitivity to the mysteries of love, desire, and passion. They are drawn to explore the spiritual dimensions of these intense emotions, seeking to uncover the hidden truths and transformative potential within them.

Embracing the Dark and the Light in Relationships: Venus in the 8th house encourages them to embrace both the light and the shadow aspects of love and relationships. They are unafraid to confront the complexities, vulnerabilities, and hidden desires that often lie beneath the surface in their connections with others.

Healing and Transformation Through Intimate Connections: They may find that their relationships serve as catalysts for personal growth and spiritual awakening, allowing them to release old wounds and patterns.

Empathy and Compassion in Spiritual Relationships: These individuals have a natural empathy and compassion for the spiritual journeys of others, particularly in the context of relationships. They can deeply connect with and support their partners or loved ones on their own spiritual paths.

Challenges (the bad)

Attachment to Sensual Pleasures: Individuals with Venus in the 8th house may be prone to attachment to sensual pleasures and material comforts, which can distract them from their spiritual pursuits.

Emotional Turmoil in Relationships: Their sensitivity to deep emotional and transformative experiences in relationships can lead to intense emotional ups and downs. This emotional turbulence can disrupt their spiritual practice.

Materialistic Approach to Spirituality: There's a risk of approaching spirituality from a materialistic perspective, seeking spiritual experiences for personal gain or a sense of beauty and luxury. This can hinder their genuine spiritual growth.

Difficulty in Letting Go: Venus's attachment to beauty and harmony may make it challenging for them to let go of attachments and embrace the impermanence often emphasized in spiritual teachings.

SENSITIVITIES (the good)

Mars in the 8th House (Spiritual Empowerment):

Mars in the 8th house suggests a sensitivity to spiritual empowerment and the use of spiritual energy for personal growth and transformation. These individuals may harness their inner strength for spiritual pursuits.

Spiritual Experiences: Individuals with this placement often find empowerment through spiritual practices and may engage in transformative experiences that require courage and determination. They may use their spiritual energy to overcome obstacles and challenges on their spiritual path.

Passionate Pursuit of Spiritual Truth: Individuals with Mars in the 8th house approach their spiritual journey with a fiery and passionate determination. They are driven by an intense desire to uncover the profound truths that lie beneath the surface, and they tackle their spiritual pursuits with vigor and enthusiasm.

Action-Oriented Approach to Transformation: Mars's influence in the 8th house highlights the transformative power of action and personal will. These individuals believe in actively engaging with the hidden dimensions of spirituality, using their energy and drive to effect meaningful change within themselves and in the world around them.

Courage to Confront the Shadows: Mars in the 8th house individuals possess the courage to confront their own shadows and the darker aspects of spirituality. They are unafraid to delve into the depths of their psyche, addressing unresolved issues, and facing their fears head-on as part of their spiritual growth.

Fearless Exploration of Taboos: Their sensitivity extends to the exploration of taboos, forbidden knowledge, and the boundaries of conventional belief systems. They approach these subjects fearlessly, seeking to challenge and expand their understanding of spirituality.

Sensitivity to Energetic Shifts: They have a heightened sensitivity to energetic shifts and power dynamics in their spiritual experiences. This sensitivity allows them to perceive subtle changes in energy and empowers them to actively participate in the transformative process.

Sensual and Mystical Spiritual Experiences: Mars's influence can lead to sensual and even ecstatic spiritual experiences. They may find that their spiritual encounters are deeply rooted in physical sensations, leading to a sense of union with the divine through the body.

Embracing the Warrior Archetype: Mars in the 8th house individuals often resonate with the warrior archetype in their spiritual journeys. They view themselves as spiritual warriors who confront challenges and obstacles with courage and determination, ultimately emerging stronger and wiser.

Challenges (the bad)

Aggressiveness in Spiritual Pursuits: Those with Mars in the 8th house may approach their spiritual journey with excessive aggressiveness or a competitive spirit. This can lead to conflicts within spiritual communities and hinder inner peace.

Power Struggles in Spiritual Groups: Their assertiveness, when used in excess, can sometimes lead to power struggles within spiritual groups or communities. They may clash with others over leadership or control issues.

Impulsivity in Spiritual Practices: They may be prone to impulsive or reckless spiritual practices, seeking intense experiences without considering the potential risks or consequences. This can lead to spiritual burnout.

Challenges in Achieving Inner Calm: Their innate restlessness and drive may make it difficult for them to achieve the inner calm and stillness often sought in spiritual practice. They may struggle with meditation or contemplative practices.

SENSITIVITIES (the good)

Jupiter in the 8th House (Sensitivity to Spiritual Expansion):

Jupiter in the 8th house signifies a sensitivity to spiritual expansion and a desire to explore the depths of spirituality and transformation. These individuals may have a natural inclination toward spiritual growth.

Spiritual Experiences: These individuals often embark on spiritual journeys that lead to personal expansion and a deeper understanding of life's mysteries. They may seek wisdom in the spiritual realms, exploring different belief systems and philosophies. The 8th house's transformative energy can lead to profound spiritual growth and enlightenment.

Expansive Quest for Spiritual Wisdom: Individuals with Jupiter in the 8th house embark on a grand and expansive quest for spiritual wisdom. They possess a natural curiosity and thirst for knowledge that leads them to explore the profound mysteries of life, death, and transformation.

Optimism in the Face of Spiritual Challenges: Jupiter's influence in the 8th house fosters an innate optimism, even in the face of spiritual challenges and the exploration of the shadow aspects of existence. They believe that there is always light to be found in the darkest corners of the psyche and the spiritual journey.

Embracing the Mysteries of Life and Death: Jupiter in the 8th house encourages individuals to embrace the mysteries of life and death with open arms. They have a deep fascination with the cycles of birth, death, and rebirth and may explore spiritual practices that delve into these themes.

Empathy for Others' Spiritual Journeys: These individuals possess a natural empathy and understanding for the spiritual journeys of others. They are often sought after as spiritual guides and mentors due to their ability to provide encouragement and wisdom.

Sensitivity to Synchronicities and Signs: They have a heightened sensitivity to synchronicities, signs, and meaningful coincidences in their lives. They view these occurrences as guidance from the universe and are adept at interpreting their spiritual significance.

Seeking Wisdom & Diverse Spiritual Traditions: Jupiter in the 8th house individuals often explore a wide range of spiritual traditions and belief systems. They are open to learning from diverse sources and may synthesize their spiritual beliefs from various philosophies.

Generosity and Compassion in Spiritual Endeavors: Their expansive and benevolent nature often leads them to engage in acts of generosity and compassion as part of their spiritual practice. They may support charitable causes or engage in volunteer work to make a positive impact.

Challenges (the bad)

Excessive Idealism: Individuals with Jupiter in the 8th house may have a tendency to idealize spiritual concepts or teachers. This can lead to disillusionment when reality does not meet their high expectations.

Overindulgence in Spiritual Experiences: Their expansive nature may lead to overindulgence in spiritual experiences, such as excessive meditation or seeking out gurus and retreats. This can lead to imbalance and neglect of practical life and responsibilities.

Dogmatism and Self-Righteousness: They may become dogmatic in their spiritual beliefs and adopt a self-righteous attitude, believing that their spiritual path is the only correct one. This can lead to conflicts with others who have different beliefs.

Lack of Discernment: Their optimism and trust in others, when used in excess, may lead to a lack of discernment, making them vulnerable to manipulation or exploitation by unscrupulous spiritual figures.

SENSITIVITIES (the good)

Saturn in the 8th House (Sensitivity to Spiritual Discipline):

Saturn in the 8th house individuals have a sensitivity to spiritual discipline and the importance of structure in their spiritual pursuits. They may take a disciplined approach to their spiritual path.

Spiritual Experiences: These individuals often find spiritual growth through structured practices, such as meditation or rituals. They may seek to master their spiritual path through patience and commitment. The 8th house's transformative energy can lead to profound spiritual discipline and growth.

Disciplined Approach to Spiritual Growth: Individuals with Saturn in the 8th house approach their spiritual journey with discipline and dedication. They have a structured and methodical approach to personal growth and transformation, viewing spirituality as a path that requires commitment and effort.

Sensitivity to the Depth of the Psyche: Saturn's influence in the 8th house fosters a sensitivity to the deep layers of the psyche and the hidden aspects of the self.

Embracing the Challenges of Transformation: These individuals view challenges and obstacles as essential components of the transformational process. They are willing to face the darkest corners of their own psyche and explore the shadow aspects of existence with courage and perseverance.

Practical Application of Spiritual Insights: Their sensitivity extends to the practical application of spiritual insights in their daily lives. They are interested in integrating their spiritual beliefs into their actions and behaviors, striving for a harmonious alignment between their inner and outer worlds.

Resilience in the Face of Spiritual Challenges: These individuals possess a remarkable resilience when confronted with spiritual challenges and setbacks. They do not easily give up or become discouraged, viewing difficulties as opportunities for growth and learning.

Challenges (the bad)

Rigidity and Fear of Change: Those with Saturn in the 8th house may have a fear of change and a tendency to resist the transformative aspects of spirituality. They may be overly cautious and resistant to new spiritual experiences.

Rigorous Self-Judgment: Their critical nature can lead to rigorous self-judgment in spiritual practice. They may be harsh on themselves, believing they are not progressing fast enough or living up to their own expectations.

Fear of the Unknown: Their fear of the unknown and a desire for control can hinder them from embracing the mystical and unpredictable aspects of spirituality.

Spiritual Austerity: They may lean toward spiritual austerity, denying themselves joy and pleasure in the belief that the pain is necessary for spiritual growth. This can lead to a lack of balance and a sense of deprivation.

SENSITIVITIES (the good)

Uranus in the 8th House (Sensitivity to Spiritual Awakening):

Uranus in the 8th house suggests a sensitivity to spiritual awakening and a desire to break free from old patterns and limitations in the pursuit of higher consciousness.

Spiritual Experiences: Individuals with this placement may experience sudden spiritual awakenings that lead to radical shifts in their perception of reality. They may be open to unconventional spiritual practices and may explore innovative approaches to their spiritual journey.

Quest for Spiritual Liberation: Individuals with Uranus in the 8th house have a strong desire for spiritual liberation and freedom. They seek to break free from traditional or conventional spiritual beliefs and explore new, unconventional paths to enlightenment.

Sensitivity to Radical Transformation: Uranus's influence in the 8th house fosters a sensitivity to radical transformation. They are open to sudden and profound shifts in consciousness and may have experiences that shatter their old belief systems, leading to a redefinition of their spiritual identity.

Innovation in Spiritual Practices: These individuals are pioneers in the realm of spirituality, often embracing innovative and cutting-edge spiritual practices. They may explore technologies, alternative healing methods, or avant-garde spiritual philosophies in their quest for spiritual growth.

Sensitivity to Universal Consciousness: Their sensitivity extends to the interconnectedness of all beings and a sense of universal consciousness. They may have experiences of expanded awareness and interconnectedness that lead to a deep sense of unity with the cosmos.

Sensitivity to Paradigm Shifts: They have a heightened sensitivity to paradigm shifts and collective consciousness evolution. They may be at the forefront of societal changes and spiritual movements that challenge the status quo.

Embracing the Unconventional: These individuals are unafraid to explore unconventional and uncharted spiritual territories. They are drawn to the mysterious and the unexplained, seeking to push the boundaries of their spiritual understanding.

Sensitivity to Energetic Shifts: Their sensitivity allows them to perceive subtle energetic shifts and changes in their spiritual experiences. They may have intuitive insights into the energies at play in the spiritual realms.

Empathy for Outsiders: They possess empathy and understanding for outsiders and those who feel marginalized in conventional spiritual communities. Their open-mindedness makes them accepting of diverse spiritual paths and beliefs.

Challenges (the bad)

Restlessness in Spiritual Pursuits: Their restlessness and desire for freedom may result in a lack of commitment to any one spiritual path. They may flit from one spiritual practice to another without finding deep inner connection.

Inability to Ground Spiritual Insights: While they may have sudden and innovative spiritual insights, they may struggle to ground these insights in practical ways or integrate them into their daily lives.

Resistance to Structure: Uranus's resistance to structure may hinder their ability to establish a consistent spiritual practice, leading to sporadic or unconventional approaches to spirituality.

Challenges in Finding Stability: One challenge they may face is the need to find stability and grounding in their spiritual pursuits. Uranus's influence can sometimes lead to a sense of restlessness or a constant quest for the next spiritual breakthrough.

SENSITIVITIES (the good)

Neptune in the 8th House (Sensitivity to Mystical Connection):

Neptune in the 8th house signifies a sensitivity to mystical connection and the desire to merge with the divine and the spiritual realms.

Spiritual Experiences: These individuals often have profound mystical experiences that involve a sense of oneness with the universe. They may be drawn to spiritual practices that facilitate a deep connection with the divine and the unseen realms.

Intuitive Connection to the Unconscious: Individuals with Neptune in the 8th house have an innate and intuitive connection to the unconscious mind and the hidden realms of existence. They may possess heightened psychic abilities and a natural affinity for dream analysis and symbolism.

Mystical Experiences: Neptune's influence in the 8th house often leads to mystical experiences and encounters with the spirituality. They may have moments of profound spiritual insight and union with the universal consciousness, transcending ordinary reality.

Sensitivity to Spiritual Healing: These individuals are sensitive to the healing power of spirituality. They may explore alternative healing modalities, energy work, or holistic practices as part of their spiritual journey, often with a focus on emotional and soul-level healing.

Empathy and Compassion: Neptune in the 8th house fosters deep empathy and compassion for the suffering and struggles of others. They are drawn to service-oriented spiritual practices and may work in fields that involve supporting those in crisis or experiencing emotional challenges.

Dissolution of Boundaries: Their sensitivity extends to the dissolution of boundaries, both in the physical and spiritual realms. They may have a fluid sense of self and a capacity to merge with others on a spiritual or energetic level.

Artistic Expression of Spirituality: These individuals often find artistic and creative outlets for their spiritual insights. They may excel in music, visual arts, poetry, or other forms of artistic expression that convey the ethereal and transcendent aspects of spirituality.

Sensitivity to Spiritual Illusions: Neptune's influence can lead to sensitivity to spiritual illusions and the potential for self-deception. They may need to discern between genuine spiritual experiences and delusions or escapism.

Intuitive Guidance: They rely on intuitive guidance and inner knowing in their spiritual pursuits. They may trust their inner voice and intuition to lead them on their path, often making choices based on a deep sense of spiritual guidance.

Sensitivity to Collective Unconscious: These individuals are attuned to the collective unconscious and may have a deep understanding of archetypal symbolism and universal themes in spirituality. They can tap into the wisdom of the collective unconscious for spiritual insights.

Challenges (the bad)

Escapism Through Spirituality: Individuals with Neptune in the 8th house may be prone to using spirituality as a means of escaping from the challenges of reality. This can lead to a lack of grounding and practicality in their spiritual pursuits.

Illusions and Deception: Neptune's influence may lead to illusions, self-deception, or susceptibility to manipulation by charismatic but unscrupulous spiritual figures.

Difficulty in Discerning Reality: They may struggle to discern between genuine spiritual experiences and fantasies or delusions. This can lead to confusion and a lack of clarity in their spiritual journey.

Overidealization of Spiritual Teachers: They may overidealize spiritual teachers or gurus, placing them on pedestals and failing to recognize their flaws or unethical behavior.

SENSITIVITIES (the good)

Pluto in the 8th House (Sensitivity to Spiritual Transformation and Power):

Pluto in the 8th house indicates a sensitivity to spiritual transformation and the exploration of spiritual power and the unconscious mind.

Spiritual Experiences: Individuals with this placement may undergo intense spiritual transformations that lead to a deeper understanding of the hidden forces at play in the spiritual realm. They may seek to harness their spiritual power for personal and collective growth. The 8th house's transformative energy can lead to profound spiritual evolution and the exploration of the mysteries of existence.

Profound Spiritual Transformation: Individuals with Pluto in the 8th house undergo profound spiritual transformations throughout their lives. They are drawn to experiences and practices that lead to inner rebirth, often through the process of shedding old layers of the self.

Sensitivity to the Mysteries of Life and Death: Pluto's influence in the 8th house fosters a deep sensitivity to the mysteries of life, death, and rebirth. They have a fascination with these themes and seek to understand the cycles of existence on a profound level.

Sensitivity to Energetic Shifts: Their sensitivity extends to perceiving subtle energetic shifts and power dynamics in the spiritual realms. They may have a heightened ability to sense the energies at play in their own lives and the lives of others.

Spiritual Regeneration and Rebirth: Their spiritual path often involves cycles of regeneration and rebirth. They may experience moments of spiritual death and resurrection, leading to a deeper understanding of the eternal nature of the soul.

Sensitivity to Power and Control: They are highly attuned to power dynamics and issues of control, both within themselves and in the spiritual realms. They may be drawn to spiritual practices that empower them to overcome personal limitations and gain greater self-mastery.

Sensual and Mystical Spiritual Experiences: Pluto's influence can lead to sensual and mystical spiritual experiences. They may find that their spiritual encounters are deeply rooted in physical sensations and a sense of profound unity with the universe.

Exploration of the Unconscious Mind: These individuals are drawn to explore the depths of the unconscious mind and the hidden recesses of their own psyche. They may excel in psychology, psychotherapy, or depth-oriented spiritual practices.

Challenges (the bad)

Obsession with Control: Individuals with Pluto in the 8th house may become obsessed with control in their spiritual pursuits, seeking to manipulate spiritual energies or outcomes. This can lead to ethical dilemmas and power struggles.

Fear of Transformation: Paradoxically, their sensitivity to transformative energies may lead to a fear of personal transformation. They may resist letting go of old patterns and embrace change.

Attraction to Dark or Taboo Practices: Their fascination with the hidden and taboo may lead to an attraction to dark or potentially harmful spiritual practices. This can result in negative spiritual experiences and psychic wounds for them or others.

Involvement in Manipulative Spiritual Groups: Their deep desire for transformation may make them vulnerable to manipulation by spiritual groups or leaders who promise rapid change (be careful with this) but exploit their vulnerability.

[gardenofedenedenp]

♡Moon Throughout The 12 Houses From God's Eyes♡

Moon in the First House👑

Very happy people with a youthful disposition, would benefit from a career in therapy, counseling, or massage therapy.

Big, bright pretty eyes and a vigorous heart, this is the person you want by your side in a fight. In peace. In clarity and in joy.

The perfect example of "God's favorite."

♡♡

Moon in the Second House🙌🏾

It is a requirement to be mindful when it comes to spending finances, solely based on the need to "feel good."

A reminder to the moon in the 2nd House person, is "Use STRONG discernment when is comes to differentiating what is EMOTIONS VS A DOWNLOAD."

♡♡

Moon in the 3rd House💍

Bright personality, with a smart mouth. And attitude that is both endearing and sassy.

Most people can't stand a know-it-all with a consistent smug look of understanding and amusement on their face. But Moon in the 3rd house person just makes it look so Damm good.

♡♡

Moon in the 4th House🤣

A very scary mommy who always has a very full belly. This person has quite the appetite. For love, food, and attire from places like Marshall's and TJMaxx.

They truly enjoy the comfort of it all.

Can be very dangerous when upset. Proceed with caution.

♡♡

Moon in the Fifth House🩷

Ice cream, and billy goats. Ice cream and Billy goats.

Seems random? That's Because the moon in the 5th house IS RANDOM.

Always seems to have some money in their pocket. Veey lucrative people because their heart is always in the right place.

Finance advice for yall: BE HAPPY . if your at work and miserable, you will be broke. I will accept your "Thanks In Advance."

♡♡

Moon in the Sixth House😎

"The mom friend." "The work bestie." Who will ghost your a$$. If you so much AS DARE TO CROSS THEIR BOUNDARIES.

Similar to moon in 4th, this pookie has temper.

Except they will verbally decimate you, immediately to your face, because they can't miss their yoga class at 3:15pm because they wasted it on ENDING your reputation.

(Moon in 4th has alot of time on their hands, because they mastered time management at age 12 and will kill you. Slowly. Deliberately. And will celebrate with their elevated ancestors before the plans morph into 3d motion😳)

♡♡

Moon in the Seventh House💸

Omg. So many girlfriends. Or boyfriends. Depending on your gender.

Be careful with your boundaries. Too many soul ties makes for a unfit belly, and g3nitalia.

Mostly very polite and sociable, but has a detached air to them that they can sometimes be unaware of. Which can lead to heartbreak. TO either themselves or the 3rd party.

♡♡

Moon in the Eighth House🎇

BIG GOD. BIG BAG. GOTT A BIG GOD

, WHO GAVE EM A BIG, BIG, BIG BAG

They are not sharing their money. Unless you are Jesus or their future spouse. Current boyfriend or girlfriend does not count. Neither does mama.

♡♡

Moon in the Ninth House💖

Probably is married with their husband or wife abroad somewhere.

Oh. You were their friend of 10 years and didn't know that they have already been married for 12 of those years WITH a baby on the way in Zimbabwe?

Oh..

♡♡

Moon in the Tenth House🚘

Money bags. Money bags with tears. Mr or Mrs Money bags with tears that TURN INTO gold.

And no, you can't come for their wedding. You bullied them in 8th grade.

♡♡

Moon in the Eleventh House💌

Oh my gosh, best friend of the MILLENNIUM AWARD. also they cook really well. And tend to have gorgeous feet. (This is coming from a goddess who does not care for rhe feet of others.

But I respect it.)

♡♡

Moon in the Twelfth House💋

Oh Em Gee. Super intimidating. In a Care-Bear kind of way.

No. I Will not elaborate on that.

♡♡♡♡♡

[safiredreams]

Astro Notes XIII

Leo Ascendants tend to radiate confidence and warmth, it’s actually quite hard not to like them upon first getting to know them because they are generally very open, honest about who they are and what they want type of people

Aquarius Ascendants can be very distant and cold upon first getting to know them, they will generally keep people at an arms length and enjoy their personal space. People tend to want to be their friend because these people don’t really judge the weird and the strange and they are perhaps one of the chillest and calmest Ascendants

Virgo Ascendants tend to be quite timid and boring upon first meeting them, they don’t really portray much of their core personality but they nevertheless act nice and soft and visually are quite put together, they often have this fresh and clean way about them

Libra North Node - Aries South Node people need to ease on their independence, they need to learn to ask for help instead of always doing everything themselves, they need to learn to share their worries and emotions with people. Being alone is not the answer in this lifetime

Scorpio Venus is a classic enemies to lovers trope

Taurus people are going to need to keep tradition in their relationships, and by that I mean traditions that run in their family. If their mom made them the same dinner every Sunday then they will expect to keep that type of tradition moving forward in their life with their own partner

Jupiter in aspect to Venus people can be one of the most likeable type of people you ever get to meet, its hard not to laugh and have fun when you are in their company

Capricorns take their time when it comes to pursuing someone, they don’t want to waste their time and energy on something that will not work out in the long term

Sun, Moon, and Venus in the 8th house are generally placements that will attract a lot of people to them sexually because they radiate that type of intense magnetism that they themselves might not even be aware of

Puto conjunct Sun people may attract a lot of stalkers

[heartlilith]

"I have planets transiting my 8th house and I'm having the worst day"

Native 8th House people:

[pinkmoonastro]

8TH House Synastry 💋

🖤 Sun-

Manipulation is the game. If someone's sun is in your 8th house their likely create illusions around how you view them. They may put on a mask initially and show want they want you to see. There's a battle of the ego. This type of interaction will change your public image. It may seem like this person's intentions are hard to read.

🖤 Moon-

The moon feels something new here. It's exciting and may come at a time where your in the energy of exploration. This placement will make you feel free or very restricted. A lot of healing can happen here, your intuition will be activated. This person could expose you to a lot of new people and experiences.

🖤 Venus-

Obsession,Obsession,Obsession! This is another placement that feels very exciting for better or worse. This placement will really bring people together for the long haul but there has to be balance, it may feel very tempting to spend every moment together but having your own life is important. The Venus person may overly extend themselves and give too much. The house person can become greedy and ungrateful. If the love and passion in this relationship isn't healthy this can become a very dangerous situation. My ex was a SUPER STALKER our relationship was so ghetto. His Venus was in my 8th.

🖤 Mars-

The Mars person wants to know all of your deepest darkest secrets. They may pry into your life in a very abrasive way. The sex is transformative and addictive or completely repulsive. Insecurities are very noticeable on both sides you cant hide it from them. Victim and savior role playing is typical here. This placement will transform you. I've had this twice and one of the guys really mirrored how I've been in other relationships and showed me how my temper was. He made me want to change bc i was just like "ew" this cant be how i act.

🖤 Mercury-

Mercury Person will either lie to you like no other or expose you to completely new ways to view the world. They could become like your guru. Helping guide you on your path with new ideas and experiences. They could teach you new ways to interact with other people. On the other hand Someone's mercury in your 8th house could literally drive you crazy. Having you question is it you or them? This could be a person who talks about you behind your back.

Follow for part 2! xxooxooo LUVOFMARZZZZ

[moonastrogirl]

Debilitation in placements can be cancelled

Credit @moonastrogirl

« Debilitated planets create an opportunity to accept and acknowledge our drawbacks to transform them to our highest strengths » -cosmicsquares.com

Weak placements? Difficult placements in a chart ? They can be cancelled by other placements or houses or lagnas.

Do you have a cancer mars in your D1 chart ? If you have a Capricorn lagna then the debilitation of your mars is automatically cancelled. Cancer mars is a great placement to have for a Capricorn lagna.

Do you have a weak Venus in your D1 or D60 chart ? Next to your Rahu or in the same house as your Rahu, Rahu may be mimicking the Venus energy and getting you Venus related benefits (talents, grace, possessions, love) in your life.

Do you have your moon in your 8th house in your D9 chart ? If you are a cancer lagna then moon in 8th house is a great placement. It balances out your chart. Making you less emotional, detached, a bit cold (Aquarius energy) and a little suspicious actually helps you in your relationships. Cause Cancer lagna in D9 can be deceived by partners in relationships.

Do you have a weak sun in your D1 ? In a positive house for your lagna your sun will get strength naturally.

Do you have a debilitated moon in scorpio ?

- If mars conjuncts/aspects moon it cancels out the debilitation state of moon. Also if your mars is in Scorpio, Leo, Taurus or Capricorn, your moon in scorpio will give good results. Cause Scorpio is ruled by mars.

-Moon is exalted in Taurus so Venus becomes the exaltation lord. If the Venus placement is in Taurus, it fortifies the moon. Or if Venus is in Scorpio and conjunct moon.

+ the ultimate debilitation degree of a scorpio moon is the 3rd degree after that degree especially after 16 degrees so around 19 degrees, your moon isn’t as much debilitated, just weak and remedies for the moon will help you strength it.

Check out my post with remedies here

Do you have a weak Saturn in Aries ? Saturn in Aries for virgo lagna gives great results. Saturn in Aries retrograde also gives positive results.

Do you have Rahu conjunct Moon ? In specific lagna and houses, it gives positive results.

Do you have a weak ketu ? In the 12th house it gets strength and it will help you burn out your karma.

Do you have your Ketu conjunct mars ? In Capricorn mars is in its exaltation state so it’s beneficial.

If this post resonates with you, like, comment or reblog it, it will show me what I do is useful to you and thank you for reading me 💜

Credit @moonastrogirl

[libbee]

Falling in love as a water dominant native

Inner planets (moon/sun/venus/mercury/mars) in a water house or water sign - love is different to you. You want to be with someone with whom you can be yourself and just yourself. Truly yourself. With all your feelings and vulnerabilities laid on the table, you are that safe and secure with your lover.

Water house or water sign placements make the native sensitive. Sensitive is to feel the feelings to their extreme. It is like holding a bubble in your palm, worried someone might pinch it, alert someone might blow it. You do not open yourself up to someone unless you trust their character.

Loyalty and honesty means a lot to you. You want someone as transparent as the water. You want to see through them. While other people look with their eyes, you look with your soul. Your eyes are turned inwards and constantly see the ups and downs of your emotions. Being sensitive and emotional, you are drawn to spirituality and choose your own path in life. You strive for a purpose in life. You want to know why you were born here on earth. You need a sense of mission and direction. You are a giver in love, the more you share your love, the more love there is in the world. You strive for higher principles, morals, meaning and values. You are the ones to turn the pages of philosophy books because the exterior life just does not suit your taste.

You fall in love with your soul. You meet someone and they are just the right person. Your intuition (water) tells you, this is it, you cannot reason why or how this person becomes the most prioritized person in your life. You are naturally obsessive. You are thinking of all the things you want to tell them, share with them, listen to them. Their mind, emotions and soul are your adventure place. You want to explore the depths of their mind. You want to merge your soul and identity with this person in your life.

Love is not just a word to you, it is life itself. Men with water dominant energy appear so ordinary from the outside, but oh-the right person will see the glaciers and ocean behind that mask. This ocean contains the secrets of the world. You want to self actualize with your lover. Someone who assists you in this journey. It is not just a material love to you, it is rather spiritual. You value their soul, their spirit, their essence. Love is a sacrifice to you, a noble cause, a martyr.

Perhaps, love is the language of water dominant natives. It is their religion and their philosophy. You will realize that this love trascends personality and unites with God, the eternal and the source. Nobody loves like a water dominant native, especially an evolved and mature one. They make life heaven, understand your emotional needs with their intuition, love you just the right way, be the best version of themselves, do everything to make your life better. Perhaps, nobody talks about water natives' love because very few experience it and those who experience the mature water love are too busy in self actualizing and transformation. They are too detached from self promotion and fakery.

[myun-saidthoughts]

🧷 ✧ ˚. ᵎᵎ 🎀 8th + 12th House Synastry Astrology Observations:

I have known this boy since summer of 2021 and our dynamic to this day is still weird and unique. So I want to state specific scenarios that have occurred between us.

(I'll update with more observations as time goes on)

His Moon and Venus are in my 8th house, these planets make many tight aspects to my inner planets and those planets also aspect my 5th and 7th house ruler.

My Moon is in his 12th house and it also tightly squares his Neptune, my Moon also aspects his Lilith, 5th and 8th house ruler.

🌸 Staring at one another is very likely. The more avoidant you are the more uncomfortable you may feel with how reactive/how easy it is to care.

🌸 When things are romantic or there's been consistent flirting (without commitment) you two might share this unsaid loyalty to one another. At outings or parties you may make sure to not speak to other people while they are in the room.

Ex: Once at a party a girl was hugging him, the second I made eye contact with him he pushes the girl away, runs in the opposite direction, then comes up to me 5 minutes later to ask me a random question.

Ex. Once he was dating a girl and as I walked up near them (they were dancing), he pushes her away and waves at me and he's done this in other occasions.

Ex. When things were good with us (meaning zero commitment but felt good because of cute conversation) I made sure to not give other boys attention when he is in the room; it felt like a innate reaction within me to do that?

🌸 When we don't appease one another through the above examples the relationship feels more intense or more emotionally charged. It's like us being severely independent and careless with one another increases the tension and somehow creates more awkwardness. For me it feels like i'm fighting my own deep wishes; my heart vs my ego. (We have a Libra MC/Moon/Venus in our composite chart)

🌸 I don't even have his phone number and it feels like I am his ex.

🌸 I have never hung out with him one and one and we've never had sex yet it feels like we have had an intimate intense relationship.

Story: Throughout the years we would always run into each other and he was always more afraid of commitment, he has had two girlfriends but for some reason he's never pursued me on his own. Instead he stares and gets jealous when his friends talk to me.

🌸 Jealousy is very likely even if you're not a jealous person; if you're attracted to them you will get jealous over them/if their attention is towards another.

🌸 Once at a party I walk up to him to say hi but I had to leave the second I got there and as I hugged him he blurted "You're leaving?!" Just by my hug he knew I was upset to go without me saying anything.

🌸 Once at a different outing he was talking to another girl and I kept staring. As I saw them talk I then abruptly (and in a sad manner) walked away and he unknowingly shouted "Wait!"

🌸 What he feels; I feel. When there's an emotional disconnect I can feel the energy shift.

🌸 Staring is so likely. I can't help it. I just have to look at him. Gun to my head my eyes are locked in.

🌸 There's intense expectations that you hold for one another. You expect a certain energy, action, reaction or behavior from them; when it's not met you will feel a low.

🌸 When you are with them and the expectations are met, the high they can give you feels like a drug. I was once high for three days off a cute interaction we had.

🌸 I always wished he would just pull me in and kiss me, I once verbally told this to my sister; I said "I want him to want me so bad that he just grabs me, pulls me in and kisses me." Weeks later, while he was drunk he word for word restated that exact same sentence to me while holding my face. (He said "the second I saw you all I wanted to do is grab you, pull you in and kiss you, can i kiss you?)

🌸 I sometimes can't tell which my feelings are mine vs his. Its cloudy and I ask myself if what I feel is what he feels all the time.

🌸 You'll feel their thoughts and then talk yourself out of knowing "their mind," you'll brush it off and say how illogical it is to "know" what they are feeling.

🌸 The relationship is a constant tennis match of caring to letting go, sometimes you're so certain with moving on and then something, anything can pull you back in.

🌸 I have posted on my social media certain songs, playlists, quotes that were covert messages for him.

🌸 I carefully curate my snapchat stories in hopes it'll make him think of me or want me.

🌸 Idealizing is very common. He places me on this impossible pedestal, and I have said out loud that he "is everything I could ever wish for" and I don't even know him!

🌸 If there's a miscommunication or mishap there will be this deep need to fix the dynamic between you two.

Once my sister yelled at him because he was avoiding conversation (as he does usually) and 2 weeks later he throws a party. I know it sounds insane that he would have a party just to fix the weird dynamic but when I arrived he and his roommate made eye contact and he looked at his roommate saying "Walk with me so I can say hi to them" and the roommate knew immediately and smirked at me while passing.

🌸 I pull open a soft spot in him, I can just tell when he looks at me. Especially when we were talking more.

🌸 It feels safe when I hug him, once he just laid his head on my shoulder and that behavior came so naturally from him.

🌸 When his ego isn't involved he is more open with his feelings.

🌸 Once I grabbed his hand and he looked into my eyes and leaned down to kiss me; it felt so effortless as if we've done this before (we haven't).

🌸 I am SO emotionally unavailable, I always worry about PDA but in this case I dont care who see's me, I openly and willingly showcase my desire and it's so easy to do so. I just don't feel sick or worried about others seeing me be romantic with him, with others I fear when people perceive me with a boy romantically.

🌸 Not saying hi or not talking to him feels so much worse than if I went out of my way to say hi.

🌸 I always worry about making him feel pressured to say hi, I want him to feel ease with me and not worry or be burdened; he feels the same way towards me. (He's told me he doesn't want to pressure me to say hi)

🌸 In recent events and due to zero contact or communication I overly acted nonchalant and I acted like I didn't care but still that is the furthest of how I truly feel. Outwardly I avoided eye contact to make him feel more comfortable or less burdened but it eats at me. I act like I don't want him (to make the connection seem less intense) but I deeply do. He acted the same way towards me and mirrored my behavior.

🌸 I feel like I have to act carefree even when i'm not receiving his attention to make the connection feel less intense; but my body and facial reactions say otherwise no matter how hard I try.

🌸 One night at a party I impulsively went up to him and kissed him without words. He then looked at me, pulled me in and kissed me again. (Again with no words being said to either of us)

🌸 So many unsaid thoughts, feelings and desires. Never once have we ever verbalized our feelings for one another or about our connection and I have known him for 3 years.

🌸 Other people can see and feel the tension between us two.

🌸 I dream of him almost every single night (I am the planet person in the 12th house synastry).

🌸 My dreams showcase his soft and loving manner even when if in "reality" his actions are cold and dismissive. I receive such soft attention in my dreams and I don't understand why; it doesn't mirror his behavior in my waking life therefore I can't understand if it's my deep wishes or his subconscious wishes.

🌸 I had dream of him telling me "You make me feel more than any other girl I've met" and even in my dream I was confused by that statement.

🌸 The second I don't say hi or vice versa tension rises and it becomes more awkward in some manner. It's like not acknowledging one another causes this weird tense dynamic.

🌸 His ex hated me because she knew how he has liked me first. I found out she still viewed me as a threat to their relationship even when I didn't speak to him for 9 months?

🌸 Once he was blatantly drunk and after not seeing him for almost a year he still confessed how attracted he is towards me. He newly broke up with his ex (who hated me) and weeks after he confessed his attraction.

🌸 I have never dated him, and he gets more jealous with me than anyone else he's romantically officially been with. When his friends talk to me he feels threatened, angry and acts annoyed.

🌸 Once his friend was drunk and was non-stop talking to me saying how cute I was, 2 minutes later he runs up, grabs him by the neck and tells him to stop. The friend then avoided me after.

Story: Since he was jealous (and since we're not dating) he tried acting like he didn't care about that occurrence so you know what he does? I stare at him, he stares at me, then walks my way, stops, and turns at the girl next to me to start a conversation. Right. In. Front. Of. ME. Then I walk up to him after and he AVOIDS me. He hates that he gets jealous so to counteract that feeling he acts overly dismissive to "decrease" the emotional charge with us. It doesn't work.

🌸 We mirror each other's behaviors constantly.

🌸 He views me as this "perfect" person but that stops him from ever choosing me because he feels that he can't live up to the partner I deserve. (How do I know this? I just do)

🌸 The second and I mean very second there's a emotional block between you two the deep seated desire for them becomes less intense.

Ex: If you also share 12th house synastry with them, parts of their actions will feel like subtle hints that are meant for you. In essence, you want to believe that you are more important to them than others and you feel like you are. But once something comes to light or if you were shown that what you thought to be wasn't the case; this realization creates emotional distance and the desire for them (in that moment) shrinks. It feels as if the importance that you thought your presence gave them suddenly means nothing, and that feeling creates a instant "I'm never speaking to them again mentality"

🌸 With 8th and 12th house synastry, there’s a part of you that feels you’ll never compare to anyone else they encounter. Even if you two never dated, there’s a deep sense that the way they feel when they’re with you is unmatched and it's something you intuitively will feel. It's likely that there will be no set actions or verbal affirmations to confirm this knowing.

🌸 The emotional charge you feel when they are in the room with you can be so intense others around you can feel the unspoken desires you two share.

🌸 The intensity of this connection swings between unspoken loyalty and complete avoidance—one extreme driven by the fear of showing disinterest, and the other by the fear of being a burden. If you’re not preoccupied with displaying your loyalty to them in a room full of people, you find yourself avoiding eye contact or minimizing conversation to maintain a facade of “normalcy”—a normalcy that doesn’t truly exist in this connection.

🌸 I’ve noticed that I tend to trigger his jealous tendencies. A few weeks ago, I was at a bar, and at that point, we hadn’t even said hello to each other. I happened to be standing next to a random guy (it was a small table), and he immediately asked his friend who the guy next to me was. The friend, who we both know, turned around, looked at me, and then answered his question.

Another time, we were at a party, and again, we hadn’t really spoken at all. He looked over at a random guy and said something, to which the guy responded, “Ohhh, this girl?” while pointing at me. He just froze and didn’t turn back. It’s like he talks about me to everyone else—just not to me.

🌸 If you are very physically attracted to them, the want or desire for them can arise VERY quickly. You could verbally say "I'm over them" but the second they look visually attractive or if their actions cause emotional closeness, the want for them will reappear again.

🌸 I saw him last night and he was with another girl, when he is drunk he becomes more accustomed to not showing attention to other girls when I'm around. We made eye contact and he backed away from her but it was like he doesn't even realize or understand why he does these things? We've never dated and we haven't talked at allll in basically months. I miss him a lot and wish I had the chance or courage to talk to him more. I can't even remember if I said hi. :(

[lilithwithdark]

your thoughts on 8H aries synastry involving the moon??

A deep relationship😶‍🌫😶‍🌫, wanting to tell what you haven't told anyone, wanting to know everything and trust Eachother. The moon person may feel that the eighth house person is hiding something from them. The moon can sometimes feel obsessed and may feel like they can never figure out the moon person. A synastry that is hard to let go of. If they let go of toxic traits and obsession, they will have a trustworthy and transformative relationship.🩶🩶