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Happy Halloween from the MoM crew!!
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hey you might've been asked this before sorry if so, but have you read or do you have any thoughts on A short history of Trans Misogyny?
I have read it! I have a few thoughts.
I think it's a strong and important work that compiles historical archives into sharp analyses of how "trans misogyny" (using Jules Gill-Peterson's spacing) is not a recent phenomenon but a globalized structure with centuries of history. I also think it's flawed, for reasons I'll get into after a quick summary for those who haven't had the chance to read it yet.
JGP divides the book into three main chapters, the first on the notion of "trans panic". There, she traces how variants of this anxiety with the trans-feminized subject have presented—to deadly effect, for the subject—in such different settings as early colonial India, the colonization of the Americas, the racialized interactions between US soldiers stationed in the Philippines and the local trans women living there, and of course the contemporary United States itself. In every case she analyzes this "panic" as the reaction of the capitalist colonial enterprise to the conceptual threat that the trans-feminized subject poses; we are a destabilizing entity, a gender glitch that undermines the rigid guarantees of the patriarchal order maintaining capitalism. Punishment follows.
The second chapter is my favourite, and considers the relationship between transfeminine life and sex work. I posted a concluding excerpt but the thrust of the chapter is this: that the relegation of so many trans women and trans-feminized people to sex work, while accompanied by the derogation and degradation that is associated with sex work, is not itself the mere result of that degradation inflicted upon the subject. In other words, it is not out of pure helplessness and abjection that so many trans-feminized people are involved in sex work. Rather, sex work is a deliberate and calculated choice made by many trans-feminized people in increasingly service-based economies that present limited, often peripheralized, feminized, and/or reproductive, options for paid labour. Paired with a pretty bit of critical confabulation about the histories of Black trans-feminized people travelling the US in the 19th century, I think this made for great reading.
In her third chapter, JGP narrativizes the 20th century relationship between the "gay" and "trans" movements in north america—scare quoted precisely because the two went hand-in-hand for much of their history. She emphasizes this connection, not merely an embedding of one community within another but the tangled mutualism of experiences and subjectivities that co-constituted one another, though not without tension. Then came the liberal capture of the gay rights movement around the 70s, which brought about the famous clashes between the radicalisms of Silvia Rivera and Marsha P Johnson (neither of whom, JGP notes, ever described themselves as trans women) and the institutions of gay liberalism that desired subsumption into the folds of capital. This is a "remember your history" type of chapter, and well-put.
I think JGP is correct to insist, in her introduction, on the globalizing-in-a-destructive-sense effects of the colonial export of trans womanhood. It is, after all, an identity conceived only mid-century to make sense of the medicalized trans subject; and "gender identity" itself (as JGP describes in Histories of the Transgender Child) is a psychomedical concept conceived to rein in the epistemic instability of trans existence. This is critical to keep in mind! But I also think JGP makes a few mistakes, and one of them has to do with this point.
In her first chapter, under the discussion of trans misogyny in colonial India, JGP of course uses the example of the hijra. Unfortunately, she commits two fundamental errors in her use: she mythologizes, however ambiguously, the "ascetic" lives of hijra prior to the arrival of British colonialism; and she says "it's important to say that hijras were not then—and are not today—transgender". In the first place, the reference to the "ascetism" of hijra life prior to the violence of colonialism is evocative of "third-gender" idealizations of primeval gender subjectivities. To put the problem simply: it's well and good to describe the "ritual" roles of gendered subjects people might try to construe contemporarily as "trans women", the priestesses and oracles and divinities of yore. But it is best not to do so too loftily. Being assigned to a particular form of ritualistic reproductive labour because of one's failure to be a man and inability to perform the primary reproductive labour of womanhood-proper is the very marker of the trans-feminized subject. "Ascetism" here obviates the reality that it wasn't all peachy before (I recommend reading Romancing the Transgender Native on this one). Meanwhile, in the after, it is just wrong that hijra are universally not transgender. Many organize specifically under the banners of transfeminism. It's a shame that JGP insists on keeping the trans-feminized life of hijra so firmly demarcated from what she herself acknowledges is globalized transness.
My second big complaint with the book is JGP's slip into a trap I have complained about many times: the equivocation of transfemininity with femininity (do you see why I'm not fond of being described as "transfem"?). She diagnoses the root of transmisogyny as a reaction to the femininity of trans women and other trans-feminized subjects. In this respect she explicitly subscribes to a form of mujerísima, and of the trans-feminized subject as "the most feminine" and (equivalent, as far as she's concerned) "the most woman". Moreover, she locates transfeminist liberation in a singular embrace of mujerísima as descriptive of trans-feminized subjectivity. As I've discussed previously, I think this is a misdiagnosis. Feminization is, of course, something that is done to people; it is certainly the case that the trans-feminized subject is in this way feminized for perceived gender-failure. This subject may simultaneously embrace feminized ways of being for all sorts of reasons. In both cases I think the feminization follows from, rather than precedes, the trans misogyny and trans-feminization, and there is a fair bit of masculinization as de-gendering at play too, to say nothing of the deliberate embrace of masculinity by "trans-feminized" subjects. Masculinity and femininity are already technologies of gender normalization—they are applied against gender deviation and adapted to by the gender deviant. The deviation happens first, in the failure to adhere to the expectations of gender assignment, and I don't think these expectations can be summarized by either masculinity or femininity alone. I think JGP is effectively describing the experience of many trans-feminized people, but I do not think what she presents can be the universalized locus of trans liberation she seems to want it to be.
Now for a pettier complaint that I've made before, but one that I think surfaces JGP's academic context. In her introduction she says:
In truth, everyone is implicated in and shaped by trans misogyny. There is no one who is purely affected by it to the point of living in a state of total victimization, just as there is no one who lives entirely exempt from its machinations. There is no perfect language to be discovered, or invented, to solve the problem of trans misogyny by labeling its proper perpetrator and victim.
Agreed that "there is no perfect language to be discovered"! But JGP is clearly critical of TMA/TME language here. Strange, then, that less than ten pages later she says this:
this book adds the phrase trans-feminized to describe what happens to groups subjected to trans misogyny though they did not, or still do not, wish to be known as transgender women.
So JGP believes it is coherent to talk about "groups subjected to trans misogyny", which she thinks consists of the union of trans women and what she called "trans-feminized" groups. If this is to be coherent, there must be groups not subjected to trans misogny. So we've come around to transmisogyny-subjected and not transmisogyny-subjected. Look: you cannot effectively theorize about transmisogyny without recognizing that its logic paints a particular target, and you will need to come up with a concise way of making this distinction. But JGP dismissing TMA/TME with skepticism about "perfect language" and immediately coining new language (basically TMS/not TMS) to solve the problem she un-solved by rejecting TMA/TME... it smells of a sloppy attempt to make a rhetorical point rather than theoretical rigour. It's frustrating.
I have other minor gripes, like her artificial separation of "trans women" from "nonbinary people" (cf. countless posts on here lamenting the narrow forms of existence granted TMA people if we want recognition as-such!) or her suggestion that "a politics of overcoming the gender binary" is mutually exclusive from rather than necessarily involved with struggles around "prison abolition, police violence, and sex work". Little things that give me the sense of theoretical tunnel-vision. But I don't think all this compromises the book's strengths as a work of broad historical analysis. I would simply not take every one of its claims as authoritative. Definitely give it a read if you have the chance, especially for the second and third chapters.
#ask answer#jules gill-peterson#(i haven't been asked this before ty for asking <3 🐐)#note that this was mostly off the cuff except what i had taken pictures of bc i left the book in toronto for my mom to read
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rhod gilbert and greg davies in world's most dangerous roads S01E02
#rhod gilbert#greg davies#britcom#british tv#british comedy#this is such a fun episode because both of them are like: “yeah the most risky thing we've ever done is stand up comedy”#two scarredy cats going on an adventure#the scene where they are sat in the dark trying to weigh between two Terrible Options#and rhod looks like he could cry lmao#also i love the moment just before this where rhod acts precisely like my mom and asks the chinese border security if he “can come in”#RHODRI????#gilles gifs
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fucked up that dropping gillion off for his training was done as unceremoniously as it was btw. it wasn't some grand goodbye, they didn't do anything special that day for their little boy -- it was just gillion and his father. his sister, his mother, his grandfather, they weren't there. it was just gillion, his father, and a quiet, possibly several day long trip to the capital. it was just gillion and his father at the steps of the palace, just his father that saw the big smile on his face, heard the little boy's promises of telling them everything when he got home. no one had even bothered explaining what was going on to him. he had to figure it out on his own, when papa never came back.
#obviously gill has /loads/ of mommy AND daddy issues#but i think the simple fact that it was reed and reed alone that brought him to the palace#is why his daddy issues are SO prevalent#like hes called SO many people “papa” (as opposed to “mom”; which hes only /really/ used for aster and lunadeyus)#and its just. auauaaggdhghg#he doesnt necessarily think about falyn and reed as his own parents anymore; he asks edyn about their wellbeing like she isnt his sister#(referring to them as “The parents” rather than “Our parents”)#but hes so desperate for that parental connection. he always has been.#and it makes me. emotional.#i want to meet his parents. i want HIM to meet his parents.#i want him to have the opportunity to build a relationship with them#or to find some kind of closure; at the very least.#jrwi riptide#jrwi#jrwi show#just roll with it#gillion tidestrider#jrwi gillion
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guess where i got to in my rewatch. there are so many pieces of dialogue that mean something so different now oughh
#luna.art#jrwi riptide#lizzie lafayette#there was the convo in ep 15 w/ gill & jay#and gill says he wants to meet jay’s mom#i tried to draw it but it was not fuckin with me#here’s this though i can’t believe this is my first lizzie drawing#that’s a lie i can i don’t draw jrwi that much#anyways if there’s details missing on her arms n stuff uhhh pretend they’re there
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Continuation of last years mermay MHA mermaid au. Dark shadow and tokoyami are half deepsea-mer and half reef-mer. While dark shadow is covered in dark scales, has sharp talons and glows in the dark; Tokoyami ended up looking more reef like I suppose. Shadow focuses on hunting small crustaceans while tokoyami forages for algae, and other sea plants. They lived in a cave at the edge of a trench before joining 1-a’s school.
#I’m not very good at picking specific types of fish but parrot fish mom and eel dad make sense to me#Tokoyami’s necklace has little red bits on it but he can’t wear a choker because of the gills#bnha#boku no hero academia#tokoyami fumikage#dark shadow#mha#my hero academia#bnha fanart#mha mermaid au#mermay#mermay 2024
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You guys I’m giggling so hard at these fish clustering around a leaf like drunk girls in a bar bathroom
#when did I become a fish mom#no regrets#first free evening in months and I spent it with the wife watching the fish#girls night#or should I say#gills night
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is this a weird crossover of fandoms. probably. but-
riptide pirates as trolls!!!? ouuughwa? gillion and the tidestriders whaaat, they started their tours after the 2nd movie.. trolls were kinda suspicious of them for a while with good reason but now they’re well renowned!
i just think they’re neat :D
#also i have no idea how to design a troll#if any of these goobers had a grey period it would be chip 100%#gill only knew techno music before surfacing#destiny’s blade is a guitar#he starts getting into rock music once he has destiny’s blade#chip literally raised with the black rose pirates#he has unknown origin but raised on sea shantys#he flows with most music types tho#hes heard it all#jay didnt sing much because of her dad#but her mom encouraged her to sing#when jay tended her mom’s bar she would sing tunes she heard from patrons#she got her keyboard piano after the desire island arc#instead of anti-magic ferin pin its anti-singing#singing is power idk#jrwi riptide#jrwi riptide pirates#jrwi chip#chip jrwi#gillion jrwi#jrwi gillion#jrwi jay ferin#jrwi jay#jay jrwi#jrwi riptide pirates x trolls#trolls crossover#is this insane behavior?#i watch the trolls movies and this is what happens..#i need to be detained#jrwi pretzel
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theory: caspian is the navy's chosen one?
ok hear me out ok ok. we know the navys chosen one has to be an undersea person bcus of aster's prophecy (71) and gills.. "conversation" with the navy people (62). if the chosen one is someone we've already been introduced to, it's only down to gill, edyn, finn, aslana, aslana's mom, felipe, and caspian.
we also know that someone on lizzie's crew is a traitor. either john, rudith, or caspian. (115)
its implied that caspian's sister became one of the elders of the undersea, while he went the opposite direction and went to the surface. (79)
and finally, my only decent piece of evidence: caspian was previously in possession of The Golden Lotus, aka DESTINY'S BLADE. he says he "found" it, but doesn't elaborate where or when. he also says "It'll be like having another friend watching your back" implying he KNOWS it's sentient? and best of all, it gives the user the ability to cast DAYLIGHT. which power of mana is associated with the sun? the NAVY.
#my post#jrwi riptide#calling it now theories#the only other person who could hypothetically be the chosen one is aslana#which also has some hints? like her being 'special' !! and i do wonder if her mother is one of those blackops.#but anyways. i mean its NOT gill edyn finn aslanas mom or felipe like for sure#i used to think it was edyn but the navy people very clearly refer to 'the chosen one'/'that freak' and 'fish girl contact' as 2 different#people#so um erm. idk just gonna hold onto this one.
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If you are west coast Whovian then you might be interested in Rose City Comic Con's announced guests. The con is in Portland Oregon from September 22-24.
#doctor who#alex kingston#karen gillan#arthur darvill#jodie whittaker#mandip gill#mark sheppard#first con Mom and I are going to since '19
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‘willem dafish’ made me realize for the first time that is in fact his voice coming out of that fish. im having an indescribable feeling about it.
His voice is very very very nice and he definitely needs to do more voice work because of it... 😳
He's also a southern villain rat in Fantastic Mr. Fox and an ASMR villain in Tales from Earthsea if you would like more hehe
#up until a couple years ago my mom was convinced it was Denis Leary who voices Gill but nope! willem dafish :)#I WANT! THAT FISH!!!!!!!!!!!!#cockringhoratio
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Renfield and Gill first date ‼️
Super happy with the shading on this one ^^
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Limited Life is officially one big family drama and I'm here for it!
#mom#limited life#traffic life series#traffic life spoilers#limited life spoilers#nothing better than family drama#and all of that because of a stupid comment from scar and bdubs#clockers#team ties#mean gills#bad boys#noisy neighbors
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I'm still emotional over may and gillion's conversation in ep 98 btw. how, while jay and chip were getting what she needed to heal gill, may started talking to gill as if nothing was wrong. and I know it was probably to keep him from drifting off, but it was exactly what he needed in that moment. how they went back and forth, asking and answering questions for hours. may asking something vague about her daughter and the other pirate she was with (chip, she thinks his name is,) asking about their adventures, and gillion using the rest of the time spent waiting talking about them. I wonder what he told her. I wonder if jay and chip know just how much he loves them.
#i WISH we got to see some of that bro. i WISH we got to see gill and may interact more.#thats HIS mom now /j#jrwi riptide#jrwi#just roll with it#jrwi show#jrwi spoilers#riptide spoilers#gillion tidestrider#jrwi gillion#may ferin#jrwi may#jrwi chip#jrwi jay#gillian tidestrider#jrwi gillian
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Best sisters, in any universe
(A.k.a: ever wonder what happens when a mermaid and a human have kids together?)
((as always, click for better quality))
#Suiren looks bigger than a normal kid bc mermaids grow faster. also she gets the insane upper body strength to pull herself up from ghazan#my art#the legend of korra#original characters#seeds of the red lotus#sotrl suiren#sotrl midori#nia’s mermaid au#don’t ask how the biology of it all works idk and honestly idc#but yeah basic concept is that ming-hua’s a mermaid and ghazan’s a human and they fell in love and these two are the product of that#but since suiren in sotrl takes much more after her mom. in this au she was born basically indistinguishable from a normal mermaid#while midori is closer to her dad so she was born without a tail BUT with scales and gills and weird half-human half-fin ears and also fangs#the two were completely inseparable at children. always playing and swimming around together under their parents’ watchful eyes#they probably had a small shack in a secluded cavern near the water where ghazan and midori lived so that they’d be always close to-#ming-hua and suiren who can’t be too far away from the ocean. and so that the girls would get equal love and attention from both parents#of course that all changed once… something happened to ghazan and ming-hua#idrk what bc the avatar doesn’t exist and even if it did ming-hua can’t really go after her can she#well SOMETHING HAPPENS and the girls are left alone. Midori is presumed to be human and placed with haya. no one knows about suiren#Haya knows full well of her brother’s… endeavours and forces midori to hide everything she got from her mother. scaring her with stories-#-of scientists who’d wanna dissect her or smth. she knows about renny but chooses not to acknowledge her existence#midori spends all her free time at the abandoned pier talking to her sister but she doesn’t swim anymore#suiren is taken in by the other merpeople but they don’t like her bc she ‘carries the poisonous song in her throat like her serpent mother’#as my good friend said. basically she’s a siren and everyone thinks she’s a monster born for murder and destruction so she’s an outcast#‘that wretched halfling is an omen of death and will doom us all’ that wretched halfling is currently singing to her sister to calm her down#but as the years go by Suiren and Midori talk less and less bc they think it’d be better for the other that way#look no one said aus I make have to be happy#oh also I find it hilarious how suiren insults kuvira by calling her a biped bc… renny darling#bold words from someone who’s half biped#yeah she hasn’t seen her father in 16 years and she and midori have long since drifted apart but she’s still half human lmao#we all know renny is bad at insults but come on. at least pick something that doesn’t also technically apply to you too
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hey guys! thinking about how these two might interlink <3
#was it something he maybe learned from his mother?#hazy memories and her fleeting face but he tries to summon her courage as he swims out with a blade too big for him#or maybe it isn’t. maybe that’s just something he knows about his mother. like an idle fact about an acquaintance.#but he thinks back to trying to talk to that shark and imagines trying to kill it and the fear he felt staring down this giant beast#and all he can think is…. is this what she does every day?#he couldn’t even handle it. he’s meant to be this chosen grand hero! but he can’t even measure up to his own *mother*#idk! just a fun thought exercise 😁#alternate take: elders are like ‘go kill this shark’ and gill flashes back to his mom like ‘holy shit never mess with a great white’#and gillion flashes back to the present just like. hm. interesting position here.
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