#Mass deportation

[porterdavis]

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Trump's promise to deport millions of immigrants was repeated often in the closing weeks of his campaign. Left to his own devices I suspect the project would recede into the background as his wall building did, outside of a few photo ops. This time will probably be different though because he will be coming into power with an entire cohort of zealots pre-selected and briefed on their roles, the Project 2025 brigade.

They will take their mission seriously (and not let Trump backslide on the promise). All of which begs the question -- how to round up, house, feed, transport and deport millions of people? Japanese-internment style camps in Oklahoma or Arizona? Who builds them, who operates them, who guards them, who pays for them?

How long will they be needed? Does anyone seriously expect Mexico to open its border to allow millions of people from all parts of South America into their country? Armed opposition seems a certainty. What is the exit strategy? The prospect of brownshirt troops roaming the night-time streets, breaking down doors to apprehend people of colour, both legal and undocumented with no rapid recourse to courts is not one that Americans of principle would long accept.

Soon the crops would lie rotting in the fields, factories and abattoirs would close for lack of workers, daycare centres would close, patients would lie untended in their nursing homes, prices of everything would rise.

Trump and his new friend Musk intend to burn everything down to the ground. We can only hope they do it quickly enough that the effect is obvious and immediate...no boiling of frogs....and there is time for men and women of honour to rise while there is still hope of resurrection.

Otherwise the great American experiment will collapse just as previous empires have, dragged down from within.

[ksenka-zarazka]

this keeps me up at night

[justinspoliticalcorner]

Kristen Welker and Alexandra Marquez at NBC News:

President-elect Donald Trump told NBC News on Thursday that one of his first priorities upon taking office in January would be to make the border “strong and powerful.” When questioned about his campaign promise of mass deportations, Trump said his administration would have “no choice” but to carry them out. Trump said he considers his sweeping victory over Vice President Kamala Harris a mandate "to bring common sense" to the country. "We obviously have to make the border strong and powerful and, and we have to — at the same time, we want people to come into our country," he said. "And you know, I’m not somebody that says, 'No, you can’t come in.' We want people to come in." As a candidate, Trump had repeatedly vowed to carry out the "largest deportation effort in American history." Asked about the cost of his plan, he said, "It’s not a question of a price tag. It’s not — really, we have no choice. When people have killed and murdered, when drug lords have destroyed countries, and now they’re going to go back to those countries because they’re not staying here. There is no price tag."

It's unclear how many undocumented immigrants there are in the U.S., but acting ICE Director Patrick J. Lechleitner told NBC News in July that a mass deportation effort would be a huge logistical and financial challenge. Two former Trump administration officials involved in immigration during his first term told NBC News that the effort would require cooperation among a number of federal agencies, including the Justice Department and the Pentagon. Trump's win included record gains among Latino voters, who Democrats had tried to capture by pointing to Trump's rhetoric on immigrants and a pro-Trump comedian's racist joke about Puerto Rico.

In Thursday’s phone interview, he partially credited his message on immigration as a reason he won the race, saying, "They want to have borders, and they like people coming in, but they have to come in with love for the country. They have to come in legally." Trump also noted the diverse coalition of voters he attracted, pointing to gains he made among Latino voters, young voters, women and Asian American voters from 2020.  "I started to see realignment could happen because the Democrats are not in line with the thinking of the country," the president-elect said. "You can’t have defund the police, these kind of things. They don’t want to give up and they don’t work, and the people understand that." Trump also spoke about his phone calls with Harris and President Joe Biden since the election.

Donald Trump gave an interview to NBC News, in which he pledged that there will be “no price tag” for his mass deportation plan.

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[ocmomandpopcultureenthusiast]

credit goes to jesscraven101

[commiepinkofag]

Harris on immigration — perfect for the nationalists

’tougher than Trump' is along the lines of RNC mass deportation celebrated at their convention & Project2025 …

this places political & LGBTQIA asylum, human rights in jeopardy

US border policy will undoubtedly worsen as the climate crisis shall

[opspro2005]

Diversity is our strength, and the open borders of our country allow us to be enriched on a daily basis. Thank God for sending us a wise leader like biden and his staff, who encourage this continued enrichment.

[smashing-yng-man]

In case you're wondering just how far mentally and morally gone the MAGA cult have become.

[fandom-hoarder]

Often, rather than hiring people they have to pay an actual wage to, they just let the crops rot in the field and get subsidies on their loss. But project 2025 even wants to undercut and remove govt protections for family farms-- things that brought us out of the Depression-- so that only large corporate farms survive.

Truly idiotic voting. No thought for the consequences of their xenophobia.

But they won't be looking to actually pay non-immigrants a living wage. They will be looking to CHILD LABOR as they've already pushed into food manufacturing that was hit with similar deportations. And of course, they will still hire and underpay undocumented people, because the risk of getting caught removes the threat of workers reporting rights violations.

Farmers voting for Trump know they depend on cheap labor and know tariffs used by the US can be used against the US by other countries.

This level of whiteness is sociopathic.

Republican narratives destroy farms. White farmers who vote Republican because of racist and nativist hatred for immigrants/migrants deserve to suffer economically.

[porterdavis]

Chapter and verse, here's the costs.

tl;dr: crippling, would plunge the country into a depression.

[justinspoliticalcorner]

Priscilla Alvarez and Alayna Treene at CNN:

Donald Trump’s allies and some in the private sector have been quietly preparing to detain and deport migrants residing in the United States on a large scale, according to four sources familiar with the discussions. And with the former president becoming the president-elect, those preparations are now expected to ramp up.

Immigration was a cornerstone of Trump’s 2024 campaign, and while he repeatedly touted promises of mass deportation on the trail – putting increased emphasis on interior enforcement compared to his 2016 fixation on the border wall – members of his orbit and some in the private sector discussed what that plan would look like, according to the sources. Trump’s day one priority is to reinstate his former administration’s border policies and reverse those of President Joe Biden, senior Trump adviser Jason Miller told CNN. Early discussions among Trump’s team have focused on removing undocumented immigrants who have committed crimes, a source familiar with the team’s preliminary plans told CNN. A key issue under consideration is how, when and if to deport immigrants who were brought to the United States as children, commonly known as Dreamers.

[...] “It’s not gonna be – a mass sweep of neighborhoods. It’s not gonna be building concentration camps. I’ve read it all. It’s ridiculous,” Homan told CBS News in an interview that aired last month. “They’ll be targeted arrests. We’ll know who we’re going to arrest, where we’re most likely to find ‘em based on numerous, you know, investigative processes,” he added. Brian Hughes, a Trump senior adviser, said that when the president-elect returns to the White House, one of his priorities will be border security. “President Trump won a landslide victory Tuesday because Americans embrace his common sense policy to secure our border and implement mass deportation for illegal migrants,” Hughes said.

Trump and his jackboot fascistic allies are prepping for mass detainment and deportation of undocumented immigrants.

This will NOT stop at just undocumented immigrants, but will eventually nab all dissidents of the tyrannical Trump Regime.

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Deporter-in-Chief

[ahhvernin]

Sounds like how the US rounded up rapid fire Japanese Americans. Oh and how Hitler rounded up Jewish citizens. How they gonna prove an immigrant or natural born non-white citizen is a legal citizen "within moments?" Cops are already trigger happy when you reach for your drivers license, they gonna have the patience to see if you're carrying your birth certificate, green card or your certificate of citizenship on ya? Most people don't even carry their social security on them. Ain't many people carrying 3 forms of identity or citizenship at all times.