#Marijen

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[mollyencrypted]

T'Lyn/Mariner/Jennifer might be very unlikely in canon but at least the mobile game is catering to my niche shipping needs.

(Now I just need Boimler/Ma'ah.)

[faithful-grigori]

It was adorable while it lasted…

How far they've come.

[gravelyhumerus]

enemies to lovers in space? sign me up

[tali-zorahs]

i just think they’d enjoy a good larp

[lastoneout]

you know what they say about assumptions

Fandom: Star Trek Lower Decks

Rating: M(barely)

Relationship(s): Beckett Mariner/Brad Boimler/Jennifer Sh’reyan

Summary:

Jen rolls her eyes. “Damn you guys are shy. It’s not that weird, I mean we are all dating.”

Beckett chokes on thin air, descending into a fit of coughing, and Brad’s eyes go wide as his face turns an even brighter shade of red.

- or -

A survival situation brings some misconceptions to light.

A03

[faithful-grigori]

Oh no, I did not read it as an attack, I did not mean to put that on you. I just wanted to add to the discussion and discuss how I very much see where you’re coming from, you make salient points.

I know it's a bit late in the season to do this, but I have adhd and finally got my meds so I can put stuff down on paper. This is a list of things I want and dont' want to happen on the 4th season of lower decks. And of course these are just my thoughts on the series, please don't try to yell at me about how my opinions are wrong. I would love to discuss anything here in a civilized manner, even if I have to speak like Mark Twain

Wants:

I want a mariner and Rutherford episode. Not a trio episode, but the an episode where the two of them have an A or B plot story to themselves. They're the only 2 of the original 4 to not have a story for just the 2 of them. I know they're friends and kind of close, but we only get it when they're attached to Tendi or Boimler. I just want them interacting as a pair so we can see their relationship, maybe they don't get along well together when they're not with other people. It's been 4 seasons, they deserve an episode together. (I dont' count the least dangerous game, because while their plots interact, and Mariner specifically tries to break the rules to rescue him, they don't interact as characters)

Tendi and Mariner getting into a fight, like a fist fight for real. Mariner is amazing in a fight, we've seen it multiple times and she's able to trounce Boimler and Rutherford at the same time easily. Tendi is a secret monster too when it comes to battle curbstomping 4 Romulan guards on her own when the mission didn't even come to that, other Orions are terrified of her and while she 'lost' the fight with her super assassin younger sister, the sister had an actual sword and wasn't tired from running around on the planet looking for her 'kidnapped' sister. I don't want it to be a super emotional thing, though it could be

I'm on the fence about wanting any romance, I think Mariner and Jennifer was done terribly, like one of the worst ways to write romance (I'll get to that on my don't wants). But as a lesbian woman, I am always thirsty for sci-fi sapphics. I would love a love story between 2 (or more) women, cis/trans/or nonbinary, even if I'm not sure I can trust the writers do do it justice. I'm just built the way I am. I would also like two or more men in the similar way, it's not my thing, but it's somebodies, and I'm always here for more queer rep.

I'd like to see Boimler and Rutherford interact with Shax more. I know they're not security but they are official members of the bear pack and he seems to have a soft spot for them. I really like that side of him and I like that the two soft but underestimated boys of the original 4 bring out that side of him.

Something Something Enterprise related. I was a very casual view of Enterprise growing up, I didn't watch a lot of star trek just episodes that my brother watched when he got the chance to. But I watched a few of enterprise and it has a soft spot in my heart. Lower Decks is full of easter eggs and references, I hope they have some for enterprise as they had a whole episode about Deep Space Nine and Voyager in the series already. I don't have a particular care, since I'm more of a lower decks fan than star trek, but I know Enterprise isn't everyone's cup of tea but I liked what I saw, (except for the finale)

Something the series always does really good is introducing or reintroducing different alien races that they don't really do any more on the live action because makeup and cgi take time and money and even then can look fake or uncanny valley, but that's the beauty of animation (not that it doesn't cost money, just that you can add any alien race to any scene and it feels like they're meant to be there and they live in that world). It's just really cool to see the variety of aliens that populate the star trek universe and it's easier to include them in Lower Decks than anything.

Scene between Mariner and her mother. I feel like the ending was rushed in season 3 and brushed off as Mariner making the mistakes. When the season her character development was that she could admit that she loved the Cerritos and the people aboard only to be judged and stabbed in the back by her own mother and basically kicked out of her home. Carol had her own reasons, and I get it if it was season 1 mariner, but it rubbed me the wrong way and was done too quickly.

Don't want:

Jennifer to come back in any speaking capacity, especially with Mariner. This is probably controversial, but it's how I feel. I actually liked the character before season 3 and still do really, but I feel like the writers didn't know what to do with her and wrote one of the worst romantic relationships I've ever seen. I can go on and on about this, and probably will on another post I've been saving since season3 ended, but after watching Mike McMahan's interview with Jessie gender (on her youtube channel jessie Gender after dark, I highly recommend it and the rest of her videos, I'm a huge fan) I genuinely don't think that they put much thought into the relationship other than they're going to break up. I don't think if they wrote a scene with Jennifer talking to Mariner they could ever do it justice. Even if it's just been as a background character Jennifer has already been in as many episodes as she was in season 3 which says enough about how little screen time their relationship got. Let it just be dead and let Jennifer be a background character with a cool design

No romance between the main 4. I don't really like the idea of romance between the original 4 lower deckers, (Tendi and Rutherford kind of get a pass since they were genuinely sweet but I haven't gotten any ship tease moments from them in season 3 so maybe the writers forgot about them) I love romantic relationships, but I also love platonic relationships too and the 4 of them are genuinely sweet as friends. I'm not going to hate the show or stop watching it, but I will sigh because for the most part it always seems like 'romantic tension' amounts to this is a boy and this is a girl and they're going to get together because that's life. Which as a queer woman isn't really for me. Note T'lyn is not part of this, she can be with any of the main 4 as long as it feels right and naturally written for all I care. I like her character but she doesn't have the history that the other 4 have that would make me dislike it. Hell let her date all 4 of them and have them remain platonic dating their awesome Vulcan girlfriend

No Peanut Hamper like episodes in season 3 please. I don't even think the episode was bad, it was very funny and very star trek. The issue is that when the older shows did the bizzaro/lower decks/character we never thought of episodes, they had over 20 episodes in their seasons, and I believe were 40 minutes long, (it's been so long since I've seen older live action star trek), they had time to do these episodes without taking time form the plot or the characters that we love. Lower decks has 10 episodes a season like SNW, as is the modern season for networks. 1/10 of the time of the season devoted to a character that some might consider annoying feels like a huge waste in a short season. I know they're probably setting up something for this season's finale or next seasons plot like since Peanut Hamper went to the Daystrom institute with the other evil super intelligences, but it still felt like a lot of time to spend on her when there was to flesh out with characters I liked.

This is all for me for now, I'd like to get peoples opinons on this and honestly anything for lower decks. I like talking with other fans even if it's just through reblogs and replies

[hiccupmistress]

Warning: more Lower Decks spoilers

asddhgdagsfaga Mike McMahan confirmed Mariner and Jennifer are dating and we’ll see some of their relationship in season 3 omg!!!

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I know it doesn't seem like we'll ever see T'Lyn or Ma'ah again and apparently that stuff about seeing more of Mariner and Jennifer as a couple is no longer true, but I'm still going to be sat over here in my little corner shipping various combinations of T'Lyn/Mariner/Jennifer and Boimler/Ma'ah.

[faithful-grigori]

“#the thing that is so fascinating about this is that it's almost never the VIEWPOINT character who needs to have the character development, #to make the loathing dot mp4 relationship go from rivals to lovers, #it's usually the bitchy preppy girl, #but so much of this show is about mariner's emotional arc and opening herself up to people, #and I don't know how her dating jen is going to go but it's gonna be GOOD”

So the thing about Mariner and Jen and the “get out of my school” of it all and the way her at least attempting a romance with Jen fits into and reinforces her ongoing  is, Jen is like…so not her usual type. She tells Tendi her type is “bad boys, bad girls, bad gender nonbinary babes, ruthless alien masterminds, bad Bynars…” and the one definite ex of hers that we’ve seen, Amina, was exactly as much of an agent of chaos in the academy as Mariner was.

Mariner has huge issues with being afraid of commitment and taking on responsibility, which is why she’s gone out of her way to remain a lower decks Ensign, and it’s why her dating type seems to by and large be “a mistake that I’m making on purpose”. Even in the case of her amicable ex, Amina, it was a relationship with a built-in expiration date—it seems like it was always the understanding that they wouldn’t stay tied down to each other when they graduated and inevitably got postings on different ships. And then there’s Barb, who she totally had sex with at that tournament they went to together (because Mariner stole Boimler’s girl and I CAN’T STOP LAUGHING ABOUT IT) but who also wasn’t looking for an actual relationship right now.

Which brings us to Jen, because the thing is…we haven’t seen a lot of her, but from what we have seen every indication is that she’s just like…normal. Kinda preppy. She was only being a bitch because she was returning the energy that Mariner was giving her, and that energy was “get your stupid little butt out of my school”. But now that they’ve cleared up that their rivalry was based on nothing and are giving dating a shot…

There isn’t a built-in expiration date there. The worst case scenario with her is that they go on a date and it’s a little awkward and they don’t fit and they don’t go on another one. But if they actually do fit well together? If things get serious?

Oh fuck. Oh fuck. Mariner doesn’t know how to handle that, the idea of a relationship that could actually turn into something close that lasts, and it’s a microcosm of all of her other emotional issues, of her rebelling both when it’s the right thing to do but also to sabotage herself out of fear of the unknown, because she isn’t afraid of screwing up command of a starship, she would be good at it, deep down she knows she would be good at it, but it would be change and that’s scary.

And so the reason she pretended she hated Jen and pushed her away was that she was afraid that if she actually opened up, she might actually end up loving her.

[loksutra]

महिला विश्वचषक: बांगलादेशने पाकिस्तानला हरवून इतिहास रचला, दक्षिण आफ्रिकेची विजयाची हॅट्ट्रिक; गतविजेता इंग्लंड सलग तिसरा सामना हरला - महिला विश्वचषक 2022: बांगलादेशने पाकिस्तानला हरवून इतिहास रचला, दक्षिण आफ्रिकेची विजयाची हॅट्ट्रिक; गतविजेत्या इंग्लंडचा सलग तिसरा पराभव

महिला विश्वचषक: बांगलादेशने पाकिस्तानला हरवून इतिहास रचला, दक्षिण आफ्रिकेची विजयाची हॅट्ट्रिक; गतविजेता इंग्लंड सलग तिसरा सामना हरला – महिला विश्वचषक 2022: बांगलादेशने पाकिस्तानला हरवून इतिहास रचला, दक्षिण आफ्रिकेची विजयाची हॅट्ट्रिक; गतविजेत्या इंग्लंडचा सलग तिसरा पराभव

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[whirligig-girl]

star trek lower decks except something isn’t quite right -- shippy edition.

did i make these because I like marinler as a ship? no haha. i made these because of peer pressure.

i can only be exposed to a hetero pairing for so long before i get the transgenderinator beam out so don’t worry, it gets gayer.

It starts with this.

I am literally so funny folks.

left in because it foreshadows femboimler.

WE FINALLY HAVE IT! WE HAVE LESBIAN MARINLER! BY FAR AND AWAY THE BETTER VERSION OF THE MARINER/BOIMLER PAIRING! IT FIXES ALL OF THE PROBLEMS WITH MARINLER (specifically, Bernadette’s ridiculous amount of gender dysphoria) AND INTRODUCES NO NEW PROBLEMS.

bonus non-slow-burn Marijen

Marijen thoughts: It’s great! I think it’s better for lower decks canon than marinler. it’s really interesting how for the past year or so jennifer has been developed heavily in the fandom (at least in this one lil discord server), and now we get to see how their relationship actually plays out and what jen is really like. but like... aside from two episodes so far in season 3, we have SO LITTLE about their relationship and it seems like they’re intentionally not wanting to focus directly on it, so the Marinler shippers will ALWAYS have more Content in canon. But also: fuck you marinler worshippers; marijen has had two onscreen kisses, muahahahahaha.

https://archiveofourown.org/works/40134687/chapters/100516917

It is “A Coming Out Story” time. From this point on, I have stolen Marinler for the lesbians.

This isn’t a marinler edit but it does provide valuable context i think.

ditto.

[lastoneout]

The Lower Decks Fandom: *Descending into a ship war between Marinler and Marijen shippers*

My ass who is a chronic multi and poly shipper who already has like three Mariner/Jen/Boimler wips on the back-burner and is too old and tired to care anymore:

[faithful-grigori]

To be fair, it seems like he’s not saying that they can’t or won’t happen, just that they’re never planned to be the main storyline of the show. While that reduces the chance that Tendiford and Marinler especially won’t happen, it doesn’t mean they can’t, just that they’re not what the writers are focusing on.

And the second bit doesn’t necessarily mean that Shreckett won’t work out so much as it reiterates something it would have been logical to assume before and which has been made blatant in the show itself now, that when it comes to relationships Mariner is her own worst enemy, and that in order for this to work she’s going to have to make some major emotional changes, the sort of changes the writers are more interested in than the romance itself.

Mike McMahan just confirmed that Tendiford and Marinler aren't gonna happen—ever. Oh, and that Beckifer isn't gonna work out either. This is the worst timeline. My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.

[hiccupmistress]

Lower Decks season 2 finale spoilers:

I said I’d try doing some opinion posts here, and I haven’t got round to it yet, but aaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh!

I could gush about certain plot points or reveals or new starship classes, but all I can think right now is how tantalisingly close we are to Mariner/Jen being confirmed to be in a romantic relationship!