#Man City vs Spurs

[cityzenchick]

None of us were happy with the referees decision not to let play continue when Jack was heading for goal, but I think we can safely say Erling was absolutely LIVID!! 😡🤬😡🤬

[woso-scotland]

Why is one of our players doing interviews for Man City's Spanish account on twitter?

We are absolute massive

https://x.com/ManCityES/status/1860027971727249660?t=ywT_BShA0kvEUAmzuvGECA&s=19

[latestnewsbysportstiger]

Erling Haaland to face possible FA charge for blasting referee after City’s draw against Spurs

The incident involving Erling Haaland and the referee Simon Hooper happened deep into second half stoppage time after the City striker was fouled by the Spurs full-back Emerson Royal. The referee blew his whistle to give a free kick, not letting City continue with their advantage, when Jack Grealish was just about found himself one-on-one with the Spurs goal-keeper Guglielmo Vicario, aiming to score a late winner for the hosts after Erling Haaland managed to squeeze in a through ball to him.

[leclercloml]

WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK??!! HOW DID THAT GOAL WENT IN??!! IT'S 2-2 RN

[cityzenchick]

Team declared with an hour to kick-off ⚽️ Stones and Grealish on the bench ready to step in if needed👍🩵🩵 Doku Alverez Foden and Haaland all in the starting line up 🩵🩵🩵🩵

Come on my beautiful blue boys - time to shine 🌟💫💖

[peligrosapopagain]

what do you mean Man City is down two vs Spurs at home?!!!!!!!!!

[cityzenchick]

Fair play to Spurs .... it wasn't an easy watch for City fans like me .... but the Rodri Ballon D'or celebration brought tears to my eyes ....we are SO lucky to have him 🩵🫂✨️

Tottenham THUMP Man City at the Etihad 🤯👀

[cityzenchick]

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looking respectfully…

[cityzenchick]

Birthday boy showing off his beautiful bulging biceps .... 💪❤️💋

[meowmeowmessi]

[baejax-the-great]

Absolutely reeling.

So I knew that the origin of "Hector was a great man, moral, noble, better than all of the Greeks" began as Roman propaganda that somehow has made it to now, the year 2023, and is still taught to high school students.

What I did not know was why scholars shit on Achilles as vehemently as they did (and still do).

My copy of Fagles' translation of the Iliad has a preface by a different scholar who I'm not going to bother to name because he's an idiot (and idk probably dead at this point). I read the entire thing, absolutely baffled, because he would cite a part of the text (that I admittedly had not read yet! at all!), quote it, and then come to the most batshit interpretation based on that quote I had ever seen in my life. His general take was that Achilles was a sociopath who had no feelings for anyone other than himself and his own pride, and every action he took (until welcoming Priam into his hut) was done in service of that pride. To support this, he decided that Achilles did not see Patroclus as a person, but rather as an extension of himself, and thus someone injuring Patroclus was them injuring Achilles, and so he did not care about Patroclus, he only cared about his wounded pride.

Yeah.

That sounded wrong before reading the book, and while reading the book all i could think was, "Did we read the same fucking thing???" Put in context, those quotations still did not support his conclusions whatsoever.

But i cracked open Caroline Alexander's "The War That Killed Achilles" last night, and she solves this mystery of "Hector good, Achilles bad" for me right out the gate (which is good because so far I've only read the preface).

Western Europeans by and large learned about the Trojan war from Roman stories, which became fairly popular, and not the Iliad, which was not translated into French or English until centuries later. As mentioned, these were propaganda that cast the Trojans in a much better light than the Greeks because the Romans believed they were descended from Trojan refugees. This starts a trend that is still going on in scholarly circles as casting the Iliad as a war between "barbaric Greeks living in a shitty, lawless camp" vs "civilized, educated, weaving, real-wife-having Trojans," making the Iliad a tragedy in which Homer for some reason skewers his own people and their warlike culture as barbaric while propping up a dead, foreign city-state. This interpretation is still extant and was the postscript to another copy of the Iliad I have.

According to Alexander, scholars closer to Homer's time saw the entire war as a tragedy--both the destruction of Troy AND the destruction of the Greek army. While this is not covered in the Iliad, very few Greeks actually made it home after Troy. Some that did were then outcast (Teucer for example), some were murdered (bye, Agamemnon), some went on to create new kingdoms in other places (Diomedes), but by and large, there was no going home from that war. There was no great victory with all their loot. The entire thing was a disaster for both sides, spurred on by fickle gods.

Back to the more recent European interpretations of this story, one reason Hector ended up cast in such a "good" light, despite being a dumbass who wants to dishonor dead people just as badly as Achilles ever did, was in order to make Achilles look worse. Why was it important that Achilles becomes a villain in this story in which he is very much not a villain? Because Europeans were involved in so much war with each other and the rest of the world that a young, insubordinate man who criticizes his idiot of a commander, decides his life isn't worth throwing away for this war, and refuses to fight to sack a city was an affront to their values. Young men were to be obedient, follow their commanding officers, and colonize the world for queen and country. Achilles suggesting losing his life is not worth it to prop up Agamemnon's war is a dangerous precedent for all the good little soldiers needed to make their nations wealthy.

It's almost funny that these analyses propping up Troy as a beacon of civilization were made by people living in countries so bent on colonizing the world. They identified with the city being sacked and not the greedy sackers of said city, who they were much closer to. And Achilles, educated, morally rigid, emotional Achilles, is recast as a sociopathic asshole who doesn't care about anyone other than himself, unlike all of those other beacons of selflessness among the Greek leadership.

The tragedy of the Iliad is that Achilles is right, the war is pointless, Agamemnon did dishonor the shit out of him, and it doesn't matter because he's going to die in it anyway.

Frankly, given how badly his character has been interpreted for so long, I think the muses owe him an apology.

[cityzenchick]

😢😔 💔

this was pep’s reaction after spurs equalized

[jaedensangster]

When I said we only get crumbs of stonesdias in Man City vs Spurs match, apparently we got the whole bread What kind of hand gesture was Ruben showing??? The way he looked so happy fast-walking to John :'( Cr: Ruben_Soma, I took it from FORSANMULA on X

[fictional-character-obsessor]

Rúben Dias x Supermodel!Reader- Social Media AU 2

A/n: Had to do this for Rúben’s birthday and for winning the PL ☺️☺️

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[cityzenchick]

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RODRIGO Manchester City - Tottenham Hotspur | Premier League (December 3rd, 2023)

[cityzenchick]

Julian, Nathan, John, and Stefan making a handsome bunch on the bench!