#Mag 146

[creep-tober]

Creeptober 18 - It Takes You Away

MAG 146: Threshold

"A small amount of light leaked from around the edges of the door through to my parents room behind me. But it didn’t reach very far at all, and beyond the threshold, it was completely dark.

That was when I started to feel scared.

I could see the wooden handle of my skipping rope lying in the corridor, its heavy green cord stretching out and into the door, until it disappeared in the darkness."

[lickmycoffeecup]

MAG 146 always makes me so mad on Jon’s behalf.

No, obviously he shouldn’t have been feeding on randos.

BUT WHAT DID EVERYONE EXPECT? You leave the man questioning his humanity every waking second, ALONE. And then y’all are SURPRISED when he has moments of weakness? The man tried to defend that he could have an addiction. LIKE COME ON!!

Jon’s an idiot getting dragged along by the narrative, but they basically thrust him straight into the waiting arms of the fears leaving him alone. HE DOESN’T DESERVE THE BLAME FOR THAT.

[itchyeye]

Dis-moi ce que tu manges, je te dirai ce que tu es. [Tell me what you eat, and I will tell you what you are] - Physiologie du Goût ou: Méditations de Gastronomie Transcendante. by Jean Anthelme Brillat-Savarin

mag 089 twice as bright; mag 091 the coming storm; mag 111 family business; mag 115 taking stock; mag 134 time of revelation; mag 145 infection doubts; mag 146 threshold

[the-random-phan]

DP x TMA

Set at the end of/after MAG 146

Jon just really needed an ally right then y'know??

[tumb1rprincess]

Of course Jon's relationships with everyone don't get better, they get WORSE. I should have known it wouldn't take too long for everyone to find out about him compelling people to tell their stories. And it's just a lose-lose situation for Jon however you look at it. Like, yes, the victims relive their trauma and have horrible nightmares, but if he doesn't do it, he'll starve. And Daisy is the only one who seems to get that, she knows what the hunger is like and how weak you feel when you don't feed your fear. Jon might not be getting the shit kicked out of him physically this season, but he sure is emotionally. And the line between his conscious choices and what's just in his nature now as an avatar of the Eye keeps getting blurrier and blurrier.

[bamboo-is-a-lie]

shout out to the dude in ep 146 who straight up kept dodging The Sprial’s doors out of luck and common sense to the point where it gets pissed

[a-mag-a-day]

We talk a lot in fandom about how harsh Basira and Melanie are in their approach to Jon in this intervention in MAG 146. They are, and as much as Jon needed someone to confront him about his actions I don’t think it’s helpful to do it with accusations of monstrousness and this level of extreme blame and zero empathy.

However, on this relisten, I was thinking about the fact that all three people doing the intervention gave statements before they were institute employees. They’ve had these dreams of the Archivist watching them be terrified. Their rage on behalf of Jon’s victims is fueled by their own memories of trauma. Of course they’re going to be extra horrified about someone being forced to experience all that when the person didn’t even choose to walk inside the Magnus Institute.

Everyone in that room has been through unspeakable terror and continues to live surrounded by The Horrors. They are ALL trying their best, but when they’re at the end of their rope their best isn’t all that great. God, it makes me so sad and frustrated.

Broken people trying to fix other broken people is not really a formula for success :/

[if-loki-was-a-fox]

it cannot be put into words how funny the 119 episode gap between these two is to me

I love any episode that calls back another and connect some dots, however small and insignificant, but ones where the characters aren't important reoccurring avatar guys, and there's only two parts rather than a full arc, and both parts are nearly as far as they physically could be from each other, and the second part is calling the first utter bs?

[bitter-goodbyes]

Another intervention for Jonathan LOL

[insanearchivist]

So...Jon had been feeding on people

[go-to-the-mirror]

If Melanie, Basira, or Daisy had been in Jon's position, you would not have demanded kindness from people who were personally victimised by them.

Melanie, Basira, and Daisy, all gave statements, they all had to deal with him in their mind, watching their worst nightmares. If Melanie was there, being confronted about hurting random people, you would not have demanded Jon show sympathy for her.

I think, maybe I'm running in the wrong Magnus circles, but people forget that Jon had a choice, that was very much the point of MAG 147. Jon had a choice in hurting people. Jon chose to hurt people, yes it was influenced, yes it probably would've been more helpful if they were a bit nicer to him, but they're not infallible, and they're not neutral in this situation, because Jon has hurt all of them in the same way they found out he was hurting others.

So, frankly, cut the women some slack.

[thateclecticbitch]

Jon, immediately upon walking into a room with Basira Melanie and Daisy : This is an intervention about my statement problem isn't it.

[spiderh0rse]

got around to mag 146, Threshold. the whole intervention thing- eh. let me see if i can order this well.

Jon isn't entirely human anymore, may not be human at all, not entirely clear on that. Point is, he is currently relying on the Eye to keep him alive. Statements, written or taken directly, seem to keep up his health. He says outright that he felt weak when he began hunting. We've heard Jude Perry's say on the matter, "Feed your patron, or it will feed on you." This isn't hunger, it isn't addiction, it's mutualism of a horrible sort where one party cannot choose to back out. If Jon were still human, the Eye would outright be a parasite. Point is, the Eye will eat at him unless he feeds it. At that point, most people would give in.

Daisy underwent something similar, and we've seen what it took to even loosen the connection between her and the Hunt. She had to go into the heart of a completely different entity, and even now that she's out and actively trying to resist the Hunt, she's weak and very clearly in poor condition. And she was still human.

Basira and Melanie are correct that feeding off of people's fear and trauma is a terrible thing to do, but I'd bet anything Basira wouldn't mind if Daisy got right back up to her Hunting shtick and started killing avatars again. She has an intense bias about the situation. Daisy's situation was easier than Jon's, in some ways. Daisy is able to back down. Melanie has felt an entity, been influenced by one. She didn't get a choice in having it excised from her, and has lost trust in everyone involved in the situation. She was the least afflicted of any aligned human in the Archives, and still had a rough time getting back to who she was without the Slaughter.

The situation as a whole is terrible, but Jon is being accused of being a monster, a terrible person, because he is doing everything he has to to avoid being eaten alive. He was tricked into all of this, everyone in the Archives was tricked into being there, but Jon had the least agency in the situation, and still does.

[aquietweirdo]

First listen to: MAG 146 - Threshold

I remember in an earlier episode Gerard Keay mentioned that the fear entities don’t care about family or bloodlines. But clearly if you can feast on one person then it’s likely that their family members would also be susceptible to the fears. I feel bad for Marcus’s dad. I don’t remember his statement but I hope he and his son made up before they died.

I liked hearing about how the doors presented themselves over the years. Especially the last time that Marcus saw the door. It gave off a feeling of anger that wasn’t there in previous years. That had to have been Michael. After the Spiral merged with Michael Shelley it was filled with conflicting emotions had it wanted to be rid of. I like to think that Micheal had been searching for a replacement long before Helen came along.

Everyone keeps nagging Jon without offering any solutions. Except for Basira but to be honest if this Hilltop Road thing doesn’t work out I think she’s going to kill him. Here’s an idea, what if Jon just took statements from the archival assistants? This wouldn’t be a permanent solution and Melanie would never agree to it but it’s better than nothing. Since they’re employed by the Magnus Institute that means they won’t have horrible dreams even if they gave Jon more statements.

[themagnustournament]

Round Two Part One - Match 1

Today Marcus MacKenzie faces off against the final episode, Last Words! Lasts works is our seed #1; can Threshold’s 185 Round One votes beat out the deaths* of our beloved Jon and Martin?

MAG 200 - Last Words | Spotify - Acast - YT | Wiki | Transcript

Statement End.

MAG 146 - Threshold | Spotify - Acast - YT | Wiki | Transcript

Statement of Marcus MacKenzie, regarding a series of unexplored entryways.

[flowersfrombefore]

Worlds biggest Jonathan Sims stan tries not to have a mental breakdown listening to the post statement section of Mag 146 (failed)