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What are your observations about Lilith in the 4h? My daughter has this. Her Lilith is in Virgo 9ยฐ it also in opposition to her MC. Sheโs a Gemini rising
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your daughter has Lilith in the 4th house, in Virgo~ at 9ยฐ
sheโs definitely here to cleanup some mess; to make sure all of the changes are more solidified within the female lineage. 9 represents that leadership vibration and making sure all is fulfilled. In Virgo โ๏ธ it is definitely a more pure, spiritual energy that wishes to complete this through serving and being served. Lilith will push buttons as she is the one wanting to be served now (something in the line where women are prone to over-serving, itโs the main wound here to be mended) and Virgo has a harsh way of coming off because theyโre so direct. Itโs harmless when healed, but not because Lilith is the matured, wise feminine energy that commands respect wherever she goes
It will be important for her to solidify this energy here seeing as the 4th house naturally opposes the MC this will form her foundation of power! She will need to show up in the word spiritually grounded (Pisces 10th house cusp) she has a lot to share from her rooted wisdom of Lilith in the 4th. Wonderful energy, here to serve and shift the world through her own self integration and transformation. Also make sure to allow her to feel safe talking through things that happen sexually b/c this can lead to premature encounters (Lilith canโt be tamed) at & around the home (close family members ๐) protect but donโt hoverโvirgos donโt like people who hover but watch her energy and see if it shifts after spending time with certain people.
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Lilith through the Degrees๐ซ๐ซ
0ยฐ โ The Raw Rebel
Lilithโs energy is undiluted and intense here. This person is unapologetically rebellious and often triggers strong reactions from others without trying. They exude raw, untamed power.
1ยฐ โ The Independent One
Lilith at this degree craves absolute independence. Thereโs a fearless, pioneering quality, but also a tendency to push others away due to a โme against the worldโ mindset.
2ยฐ โ The Sensual Siren
A deeply magnetic energyโwhether consciously or not, these people attract strong desires and obsessions from others. Thereโs a connection to pleasure, beauty, and indulgence.
3ยฐ โ The Trickster
Lilith at this degree has a playful but chaotic nature. Thereโs an ability to manipulate situations, often without even realizing it. Words and wit are weapons here.
4ยฐ โ The Silent Power
A deeply reserved yet unshakable presence. They donโt need to scream to be intimidatingโjust their energy alone makes people respect (or fear) them.
5ยฐ โ The Free Spirit
Lilith here refuses to be boxed in by tradition or rules. Thereโs a strong urge to break societal norms, especially regarding gender roles, relationships, or creative expression.
6ยฐ โ The Forbidden Healer
Lilith at this degree has a deep connection to pain, healing, and transformation. They may attract wounded souls or play the role of a guide, but their wisdom often comes from personal suffering.
7ยฐ โ The Seductive Mind
A mix of mystery and intelligenceโpeople with this placement can be dangerously charming. They know exactly what to say to pull others in (or push them away).
8ยฐ โ The Power Player
Lilith at 8ยฐ is all about control, dominance, and influence. These individuals either own their power or find themselves caught in power struggles with others.
9ยฐ โ The Untamed Dreamer
A deeply idealistic yet rebellious energy. This person may struggle with feeling trapped in reality, constantly seeking a life that is wilder, freer, and more meaningful.
10ยฐ โ The Social Rule-Breaker
Lilith here challenges societal structures. They may be known for rejecting authority, questioning norms, or reshaping institutions in a way that benefits the โoutsiders.โ
11ยฐ โ The Unpredictable One
This degree gives Lilith an erratic, electric energy. Others canโt predict them, and that makes them both intriguing and intimidating. Thereโs a genius-madness balance here.
12ยฐ โ The Illusionist
Lilith at 12ยฐ is skilled at blending in while secretly staying untamed. They can play the role society expects, only to break free when least expected. A master of deception.
13ยฐ โ The Boundary Destroyer
This placement rejects restrictionsโwhether itโs in relationships, spirituality, or lifestyle choices. They may also struggle with blurred personal boundaries, either craving total control or none at all.
14ยฐ โ The Enigmatic Siren
A powerful mix of intellect and seduction. These people often have a quiet magnetism that makes others curious about them. They attract attention without even trying.
15ยฐ โ The Shadow Walker
Lilith at 15ยฐ moves between light and darkness with ease. They may feel drawn to taboo topics, the occult, or hidden power structures. Their presence alone can feel haunting.
16ยฐ โ The Unchained Heart
They crave absolute emotional and physical freedom. Relationships must be equal and liberating, or theyโll run. This degree can also make them immune to emotional manipulation.
17ยฐ โ The Disruptor
Lilith here embodies chaos as a catalyst for change. They may struggle with constantly being โtoo muchโ for others, but their rebellious energy forces necessary growth.
18ยฐ โ The Dark Visionary
A deep connection to hidden truths, psychic insights, and underground power. Lilith at this degree often challenges peopleโs comfort zones with their ideas, art, or energy.
19ยฐ โ The Sirenโs Curse
Magnetic but dangerousโLilith at 19ยฐ attracts obsessive energy from others. They have an intense, hypnotic aura but must learn to protect their own energy from toxicity.
20ยฐ โ The Unforgiving One
Lilith here holds grudges forever. If betrayed, they will burn bridges without hesitation. Others may see them as cold or detached, but they simply refuse to tolerate disrespect.
21ยฐ โ The Wild Wanderer
They reject routine, comfort zones, and anything that feels too safe. Lilith at 21ยฐ is a cosmic drifter, always searching for a new thrill, experience, or untamed passion.
22ยฐ โ The Ruthless Strategist
Lilith at this degree is calculating, patient, and in full control of their power. They donโt act impulsivelyโthey move like a chess player, always ten steps ahead.
23ยฐ โ The Hypnotic Rebel
A rebellious nature that draws people in rather than pushing them away. They challenge norms so effortlessly that others feel naturally compelled to follow them.
24ยฐ โ The Forbidden Lover
A highly seductive yet elusive energy. This placement often involves themes of taboo love, forbidden attraction, or power struggles in relationships.
25ยฐ โ The Untouchable One
They have an air of mystique and danger that makes others obsessedโbut they remain emotionally distant. People want to figure them out, but they rarely let anyone in.
26ยฐ โ The Unbreakable Force
Lilith at 26ยฐ is resilient and relentless. No matter how many times theyโre knocked down, they come back stronger. Others may fear their ability to rise from the ashes.
27ยฐ โ The Subtle Destroyer
They donโt look like a troublemaker, but their mere presence challenges the status quo. Their power lies in their quiet defianceโthey dismantle systems from the inside.
28ยฐ โ The Cosmic Witch
Lilith here is deeply spiritual, intuitive, and connected to the unseen. They often feel like an outsider in this world, drawn to magic, astrology, or esoteric knowledge.
29ยฐ โ The Fated Femme Fatale
A karmic placementโLilith at 29ยฐ feels destined for intense, transformative experiences. They may struggle with being either feared or desired, but never ignored.
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Dark Romance
Astrology Observations

-โค๏ธBirth chart placements showing "words of affirmation" as a love language: โค๏ธ
Moon, Venus or Mercury in air signs
Virgo/Gemini/Leo placements
Mercury in the air houses, 3rd, 7th, 11th
7th house in gemini, libra, aquarius
Gemini, LIbra, Aquarius Rising
Venus - Mercury aspects
Moon - Mercury aspects
Sun - Mercury aspects
Virgo/Sagittarius and Gemini placements can be good writers. They can be good at writing on any topic. If you ever decide to write a dark romance book, you can have success alongside that
I observed that for earth & water placements especially Venus and Moon is very important to show that you care and have time for them, dont cancel things with them since they may overthink you dont pay that much attention to the relationship
Scorpio, Aquarius and Capricorn placements especially Venus/Mars/Moon value loyalty a lot in their romantic relationships, they are also value trust in their relations as well
Taurus Sun/Moon/Mars may love to be surprised by their partners with love gifts/does not have to be something fancy or expensive. Just make sure they appreciate it
Venus in the 6h/Venus at 6 or 18 degrees/Venus in Virgo are adorable in a love relatinship, they will always pay attention to everything!! They can offer to do romantic things for you as a gift of their adoration for you

Venus in the 12H or Venus at 12, 24 degrees can have dreams about their partners or future potential partners, they can dream about being into a relationship like in movies
Venus aspecting Pluto in my opinion is the definition of dark romance, this aspect can often make the native to fall in love with "villain" type of partners, or the "bad guys", not the stereotypes but the true meaning of them
South Node aspecting Venus in my opinion is like you try to find your love in every life you have, past or present always searching for that "one"
Pisces/Libra/Taurus Moon/Mars/Venus/7th house need romanticisim in their relationship, they are nothing without the feeling of love in their lives. They can always give the same energy back
Leo/Virgo/Cancer Moon/Mars/Venus/7th house need someone they can rely on in their relationships, a partner you can always count on, someone supportive and proud for being your partner
Capricorn/Aquarius/Aries Moon/Mars/Venus/7th house need a love partner who can see the good in them even when they fail, someone they can go through the challenges of life, someone they can grow old with
Scorpio/Gemini/Sagittarius Moon/Mars/Venus/7th house need someone who lasts, someone who will always choose them, someone who is worthy to love with all of your heart and soul, a love partner who will always put you first

Jupiter aspecting in good aspects Venus natives can have really beautiful and blessed love relationships, you can feel the luckiest with them, truly a real fantasy
Pluto/Neptune/Uranus and Saturn in the 7H give the vibe of "You did all of these just to find the love you always deserved". Generational planets last long and are secured
Moon/Mercury/Mars and venus in the 5H give beautiful creative relationships, someone you can always learn from, someone you can create beautiful things togther
Sun in the 4H husbands will give their life and soul for their family/kids, they will be the best husbands to everyone and kind of like a fahter example to others
If they have their Mars in the same sign as your Venus you can feel both of an attraction and denial to eachother, like you know that you love them but in a way you wanna keep it away too
Mars in Sagittarius/9H or at 9, 21 degrees will be down for whatever you want to do, they love trying new things and love to live the experience together with their partners
LIlith aspecting Sun can create a sort of mystery around people and secret admires, like you can never know if someone has an interest in you because of this secretive aura
Your MARS SIGN can be attracted over the body part its zodiac sign rules over:
For exmaple cancer mars attracted to the chest
leo mars attracted to the upper back/back
capricorn/aquarius legs zone
scorpio mars genital zone
aries mars to the face zone
taurus/gemini to the neck/ears/hands
pisces mars to the feet (No kink shame)
sag mars to the hips/thighs
virgo mars to the belly zone/waist
libra mars to the butt
5H Placements especially mercury, venus or moon can get in relationships young, is that "high school" love, gemini/virgo over the 5h can as well
Having a partner who has 8H placements especially Jupiter/uranus/venus and mercury is so HOT! Dominant energy yet always lovely to their partners!!
Uranus in the 5h/8H can make people interseted in your sexual life, sexuality, kinks, things that turn you on and so many others,,,some got no shame at all
Uranus in 2h or the 6h loves a good damn physcal touch!, they will love being touched everywhere but i feel they mostly like to give hugs and kisses
Lilith aspecting Neptune can give sexual fantasies/illusions, they can have lots of sexual dreams as well in harsh aspects these can be too intense
Lilith aspecting Jupiter can have a very high libido/sexual life or they may seek/look for that in the future, especially in harsh aspects can make the naitve a "nympho"
3H placements like mars/venus or even pluto can give someone a car/motorbike love fantasy for example making love in the car, or idk kisisng on your partners motorbike is something that is usually involved with these
Pluto or Neptune in the 8H can make the native sexual obsessed or obsessed with sexual tendency! It can go or transform into an addiction over time
9H placements can make good family bounds with their partners family. esp a good sister or brother in law, in case of marriage it can bring more abundency to both natives life
11H love placements like venus,moon/juno can easily have those "friend to lovers" relationship and i knowww this have been said for too long so lets switch a bit, they can create a very deep bound with their partners, i think ppl with these placements fight less or have less arguments because they understand each-other so good, if venus or moon has good aspects it can turn into a really good relationship

I heard some bloggers saying that Saturn in the 7H can be a boring love relationship placement and i felt like i need to say something about this because i dont think is that easy to have this placement in the 1st place, is something that grows overtime and usually gives more results when you become an adult, it gives a good amount or resurance about your partner, for some people even a sucessful relationship, a good bounding with them, more maturing relationships, and a very supportive spouse. I dont think any placements are boring in love topics. Maybe is just the process of waiting for that one person that can be "boring"
People who have scandals or dramas around their relationship can have Libra Mars or mars in the 7H because, is usually coming from other people rather than the partner or relationship itself, is more like people trying to break up your relationship, thats why some people choose to keep their relationships private
In a womans chart, the sun can also represent 2nd marriages or 2nd relationships in case there are some. It is mostly for those who have been divorced
Mercury in harsh aspects to Venus or Moon can make you feel like youre gonna embarass yourself in front of your partner, which is mostly not the case, never be afaird to show your fully self to your partner because if they are right one they will aceept all your silly sides

Friday 11th ๐ค๐ค sounds so dark for some reason, and I love it!!! Hope you all have a good Friday and weekend as well
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Not to be shallow or anything but what are some indicators of having an attractive spouse??๐ซข๐ซข๐ซฃ
Attractive Spouse Indicators
In astrology



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๐ช In the natal chart
Jupiter in the 7th house
Venus in the 7th house
Neptune in the 7th house
7th house ruler in the 2nd house
7th house ruler in the 11th house
7th house ruler conjunct venus
๐ช In the Derivative, Juno, Groom & Briede persona chart
Venus in the 1st house
Libra rising or degree ยฐ7,ยฐ19
Leo rising or degree ยฐ5, ยฐ17,ยฐ29
Taurus rising or degree ยฐ2,ยฐ14,ยฐ26
Jupiter in the 1st house
Sun in Leo or ยฐ5,ยฐ17,ยฐ29
Sun in the 1st House
Sun in the 10th House
Sun in the 11th house
Sagittarius rising or degree ยฐ9,ยฐ21
Starr ( 4150) in the 1st house
Venus conjunct Sun
Ascendant conjunct venus
Glo ( 3267) in the 1st house
Venus in the 10th house
Aphrodite ( 1388) in the 1st house
Bella ( 695) in the 1st house
Moon in the 11th house
Moon in the 2nd house
Moon in Libra
Pluto in the 10th House
Part of Fortune in the 1st, 2nd or 10th House
Great Attractor in the 1st, 8th, 10th & 11th House
๐ช Hot spouse indicators (Juno, Briede, Groom)
Pluto in the 8th house
Lilith in the 1st or 8th House
Eros (433) in the 1st house
Mars conjunct Venus
Nymphe (875) in the 1st house
Nymphe (875) in the 8th house
1st house ruler in the 8th or 5th house
Mars in the 1st House
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Astro Notes- 21
Aqua Venusโs love style is NOT distant & aloof. If they are distant with you or u donโt know where u stand with them 9 times out of 10 they are very uninterested. When they find that one weirdo (cuz they love unconventionals) they are so romantic and clingy. When they find their person its usually their best friend & they do everything together. I think people assume their love nature is distance because thatโs how they treat most people but once they find that person itโs nothing like that at all. Theyโre just really specific & will ice out anything they donโt vibe with. They are really flirty when they have a crush.
Gemini mars are normally amazing with their hands , if uk what I mean ๐๐
Venus in Libras are really amazing party planners. They are really artistically talented when it comes to decorating & hosting social events. They know how to make their environment aesthetically pleasing & make others comfortable in the process.
Sagittarius risings have really loud laughs. Theyโre those people that when someone says a joke their laugh is usually funnier than the joke ๐
Cancer risings are always victimizing themselves. If underdeveloped this can be one of the most manipulative cancer placements.
Cancers and Taurus always end up together.
Moon in Scorpios can like attention just as much (if not more) than Leoโs. This may sound really shocking given how reserved this sign usually is. But I notice these people really shine in the spotlight. Most really big celebrities have their Moon in Scorpio.
Venus in Taurus love when people put a lot of thought in when buying/making them gifts. They value sentimental things that you canโt just buy anywhere like a knitted blanket, or art you made, pottery, jewelry etc. they like to know you really pay attention to their interests compared to just getting something name branded or a gift card.
Libra risings are always talking about their exes (they normally have a lot of them) they will always randomly bring them up in convos saying how certain things remind them of their exes. It can get a little annoying sometimes ๐
Aries Venusโs tend to not mind being single for long periods of time. Iโve seen this placement never marry or wait really late to finally decide. They are very independent by nature and itโs usually difficult to keep their attention for the long term. Their flame burns bright in the beginning just for it to burn out just as fast. They need a partner who will keep them on their toes constantly. This can be challenging however because they despise things that become to โstableโ & โdullโ which is why many just stay single. I also notice the women enjoy flirting & talking to men who are taken or married? I have no idea why but I always see women with this placement in that kinda predicament at-least once in their life. Their need for excitement I believe causes them to go for men that are taken for a sorta โchallengeโ. (This usually never ends well or how they wanted however).
Neptune in the 10th house people can be confused on what career path to take or can have very delusional unrealistic expectations for their careers. (Ex: wanting to be a famous NFL quarterback but never really practices for it). HOWEVER once they do finally decide on a path people can completely idolize these people to an almost worshipping degree. (I believe Jesus Christ has his Neptune in the 10th house). They can be amazing religious/spiritual leaders as well.
A lot of cult leaders have Pluto in the 11th house. These people can also have a very worshipping fan group if they get big in whatever theyโre into but their followers have a darker more intense vibe than Neptune in the 10ths. People can easily be obsessed with these people and will do a lot of irrational things to please them. They can persuade people to do anything.
Lilith conjunct ascendant in synastry can be very scary sometimes. The Lilith person will do anything for the ascendant person even if it could ruin their life. Lilith becomes almost hypnotized by the ascendant person. Gypsy rose Blanchard and her bf at the time Nick had this aspect. Nicks Lilith was conjunct her ascendant & she was able to convince him to murder her mother.
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Hey babe,
What placements, aspects or degrees in your natal chart can indicate getting fame from your beauty?
The main indications of fame from your beauty
โ personally from what iโve seen itโs mostly venusian, martian, and neptunian energy which also makes sense astrologically speaking
the most common ones iโve seen
โข | aries/taurus/libra/pisces sun
โข | sun in 1h/7h
โข | aries/taurus/leo/libra/pisces ascendant
โข | aries/taurus/libra/pisces midheaven
โข | black moon lilith in 1h
โข | lots of 1ยฐ/5ยฐ/9ยฐ/25ยฐ in chart (especially if itโs the sun/venus/neptune)
placements
โข | sun in 1h/2h/7h/12h
โข | aries/taurus/libra/pisces midheaven
โข | aries/taurus/libra/pisces ascendant
โข | venus/mars/neptune in the 1h/5h/10h
โข | aries/leo/pisces venus
โข | chart ruler in aries/taurus/libra/pisces
โข | chart ruler in 1h/10h/11h
aspects
โข | mars/venus/neptune to sun
โข | mars/venus/neptune to midheaven
โข | mars/venus/neptune to ascendant
โข | venus to neptune
โข | venus to mars
degrees
โ in my personal opinion i think the numerology degrees are more accurate but itโs up to personal interpretation
โข | aries degrees (1ยฐ/13ยฐ/25ยฐ)
โข | taurus degrees (2ยฐ/14ยฐ/26ยฐ)
โข | libra degrees (7ยฐ/19ยฐ)
โข | pisces degrees (12ยฐ/24ยฐ)
โข | 1ยฐ/10ยฐ - according to numerology
โข | 5ยฐ/14ยฐ/23ยฐ - according to numerology
โข | 9ยฐ/18ยฐ/27ยฐ - according to numerology
other
โข | black moon lilith in 1h/7h/10h
โข | venus/mars/neptune dominant
โข | aries/taurus/libra/pisces dominant
โข | born under the goat/tiger/dragon vietnamese zodiac
โข | born on a tuesday or friday
astrology behind this
โข | sun = how we can gain fame
โข | venus = beauty/attractiveness
โข | mars = sex appeal (which most models have)
โข | neptune = higher octave of venus/ethereal beauty
โข | ascendant = what weโre known for in general
โข | 2h = face (some astrologers disagree)
โข | 7h = attractiveness
โข | 10h = fame/what weโre known by the public for
โข | 12h = ethereal beauty
โข | lilith = related to sex appeal
honorable mentions
โข | moon/pluto in the 1h/10h
โข | sun/moon/uranus dominance
โข | aphrodite asteroid in 10h/12h - code: 1388
โข | poseidon asteroid in 10h/12h - code: 4341
โข | leo/pisces aphrodite asteroid
โข | leo/pisces poseidon asteroid
- novy2sirius - plz donโt copy me word for word
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Solar return chart observations (2019)
Scorpio rising at 29 degrees
๐ช๏ธThat year was my most traumatic year.
๐ช๏ธThere were countless transformations (mostly endings and also new life-changing beginnings) in that year.
๐ช๏ธI lost many friends. I got gossiped by the whole class. The whole class didnโt talk to me. I was slut-shamed and they even spread rumors about me being pregnant while I was just gaining some weight. I was notorious with bad reputation in my school. My first love left me. I tried to run away with my first love. My parents caught me and grounded me for several months. I was literally in solitude. I had no one by my side. Both emotionally and physically. I can even write a whole damn book about this year.๐ญ
๐ช๏ธHowever, I learned how to stay alone happily in that year. (It was not an option. The universe was like BAM you need to encounter THIS to achieve THIS success or whatsoever๐).
๐ช๏ธMy whole personality before and after that year was so different that no one couldnโt recognize me after that year when I went back to school.
Moon in 1st house conjuncts ascendant (in Sagittarius at 0 degrees)
๐ช๏ธMaybe due to these traumatic events, my emotions were running high all the time.
๐ช๏ธEven though I tried to hide my pain and act like a typical scary silent scorpio rising, people still attacked me because I looked so vulnerable.
๐ช๏ธI cried almost everyday in that year.
๐ช๏ธAlso I gained weight like A LOT MY FACE WAS LIKE AN ENORMOUS MEAT DUMPLING๐น๐น๐น
**I also notice that I gained weight so easily last year when I had scorpio rising even though my moon was in 7th house in Taurus. Might be because of Taurus moon but Idk, scorpio rising year scares me hell a lot now.๐บ**
Jupiter in 1st house (in Sagittarius at 18 degrees)
๐ช๏ธI gained tons of weight because of my only coping mechanism : binge eating and also due to covid and quarantine.
๐ช๏ธI felt like food was the only escape in my life and I gained like 60 lbs.๐คฆ๐ปโโ๏ธ
๐ช๏ธHowever, I had lucky academic opportunities.
๐ช๏ธI had to change my tuition because everyone including the teachers slut-shamed me and only because of that transformation, I finished high school with high marks and now Iโm in medical school.
๐ช๏ธThanks to my new teachers from new tuition and also those stupid bitches who believed everything they heard without clearly thinking as grown-up adults.๐
Saturn conjunct Pluto in 2nd house (in Capricorn)
๐ช๏ธMy self-esteem declined so low that I rarely even went out in that year.
๐ช๏ธI felt like no one wanted me and I questioned about my worth like thousand times.
๐ช๏ธThroughout the year, transformations related to self-worth and self-love questioned my existence.
๐ช๏ธI was always thinking like โdo I even deserve to eat this or go to this or be friends with them?โ every damn time my mom asked me what I needed and every time someone approached me.
Neptune and Lilith in 4th house (in Pisces)
๐ช๏ธMy whole family was very confused about me.
๐ช๏ธThey even thought I was possessed by some ghost because I acted very unusual eg I couldnโt control my anger and I kinda self-sabotaged and I just bursted out and cried so suddenly when I was at home (that was just my trauma response I mean I donโt really know how they expected me to act after all those punishment they gave me and personal attacks received from my ex-mates)๐บ.
๐ช๏ธMy parents kept really close eyes on me because they were worried that I would commit su-ici-de and they also had their respective assumptions about me but at the same time, they also outcasted me and thought I was really a slut who slept with lots of men because I did many reckless things without thinking about consequences.
๐ช๏ธI also often had intense vivid dreams and nightmares.
๐ช๏ธI was addicted to vapes and used them secretly in my room in that year.
๐ช๏ธSo effed up๐ซ
Chiron in 5th house (in Aries)
๐ช๏ธMy first love broke my heart.
๐ช๏ธMy first serious heartbreak.
๐ช๏ธI had to take about 9 months to fully move on from him.
๐ช๏ธMy inner child got hurt and my creativity and self-expression left my soul in that year.
๐ช๏ธI lost my silly child-like spirit in that year.
Uranus in 6th house (in Taurus at 5 degrees)
๐ช๏ธAt first I was planning to study really hard to prepare for my matriculation exam but due to covid, there were huge unexpected changes in my routines and habits.
๐ช๏ธMy plans got ruined.
Venus in 7th house conjuncts Amor (in Gemini)
๐ช๏ธAmor asteroid represents soulmate.
๐ช๏ธI met my first love and fell in love with him like a fool.
๐ช๏ธEveryone warned me because they saw red flags๐ฉ๐ฉ๐ฉ๐ฉbut I was blindly in love and was like โIโm gonna marry himโ๐ญ๐ญ.*dies of embarrassment*
๐ช๏ธThat was my first time that I gave actual commitment to someone and I felt like he was my soulmate.
๐ช๏ธI couldnโt let go of him for so long.
๐ช๏ธI wrote songs about him.
๐ช๏ธI wrote short stories about him.
๐ช๏ธIt was bitter-sweet but now itโs just a memory.๐
Sun in 7th house (in Gemini)
๐ช๏ธMy main focus was on relationships relationships RELATIONSHIPS and I strongly desired to build meaningful social connections rather than superficial ones in that year.
๐ช๏ธMy hidden enemies also pulled their masks off lmao I had to deal with them the whole year because they kept saying things about me that I didnโt even know I did.๐ฉ
Mercury conjunct mars in 8th house (in Cancer)
๐ช๏ธI remember that I was fully in my hermit mode the year I had this placement.
๐ช๏ธI searched articles about how to attack those arseholes spiritually but didnโt really take an action because I believed in karma.๐ง๐ปโโ๏ธ
๐ช๏ธI was always reading books about magic, detective, occult and death and I even thought about committing a su-ici-de because I was severely depressed.
๐ช๏ธI was alone but also so blunt (I think I was just trying to protect myself) every time someone tried to befriend me.
๐ช๏ธI cursed a lot and my anger issues were like high up in the sky that one time, the wall cracked because I punched while I was angry and Iโm just A GIRL๐๐๐ฅฐ).
Vertex in 9th house (in Leo at 15 degrees)
๐ช๏ธMaybe because of all of this, I started to pray to Buddha every single day in that year.
๐ช๏ธI suddenly became so religious and I felt like I only had him by my side.
๐ช๏ธMy beliefs about religion expanded and I started to learn about other religions too in that year.
๐ช๏ธAlso fated events occurred at my school so yeah vertex can say a lot about your upcoming year.
๐ช๏ธImmediately CHECK YOUR VERTEX IN YOUR SOLAR RETURN CHART RIGHT NOW!!!๐ฅฑ
My scorpio ascendant was in my natal 5th house
๐ช๏ธMy main focus was on relationships and dating as Iโve already said.
๐ช๏ธI also think I was so fertile in that year or maybe horny?
๐ช๏ธI wanted to get pregnant with my first love and I was only 14 at that time๐๐๐ (I know I was so silly but I was just a kid so I forgive myself for that *dies of embarrassment again*).
๐ช๏ธSex education and vapes and drugs might be normal for teenagers in western countries but in my country, theyโre like really taboo topics and parents biggest nightmare was their drug addict children getting pregnant๐ญ.
๐ช๏ธAlmost everyone did not dare to discuss about those openly in those days.
๐ช๏ธAlso I was just 14 at that time so itโs not my parentsโ fault that they stopped me and restricted me too much but however, their punishment was directed in a wrong way and thatโs why I had to find other ways to suppress my pain. I donโt know who to blame, myself or those so-called friends or my parents๐ญ.
So in conclusion, it was a very hard year and very life-changing and unforgettable but it shaped me into who I am today so Iโm really happy to receive all of those new experiences. English is not my first language so please bear with me if I made some mistakes.๐ซฐ๐ผ๐
Also you can ask me about two placements (maximum) you want from your solar return chart. Iโll answer them as soon as I get free time.โค๏ธ
My mood in 2019 as GIF be like:
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Astro Masterlist pt 2.



Astro obs--
astro 1
astro 2
astro 3
astro 4
astro part 5
astro part 6
astro part 7
astro part 8
astro part 9
Sun--
Sun at 26 degrees
Sun at 2 degrees
Zodiac signs--
Taurus rising women
Gemini rising men
Venus--
Venus sextile lilith
More--
Signs indicating attraction to the arts and dancing
Signs for graphic designers, and design activism
Analyzing killers in astrology
Degree theory in your chart and observations
Signs for old money
Levels of narcissism, lack of empathy and sadism in a chart
Levels of narcissism, lack of empathy, and sadism in a chart pt 2
#astrology community#astrology#devi post#tarotcommunity#divination#tarot deck#tarot#witchcraft#tarot reading#pick a pile#pick a card romance#astro placements#astrology notes#astro posts#astro community#astro observations#astro notes#astro#tarotdaily#tarot readings#daily tarot
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Itโs been a while since I did a proper character introduction so this will be a little all over the place but MAGGY queen of my heart, best girl 2kforever is here!!!! Read all about her under the cut.
As with everyone else in the cast, Magdalene is a Normal Person trying to move through life the best way she can. While sheโs aware or the existence of the supernatural, her strategy is to chug along and having a normal life in spite of all this. So who cares if the Angel of Destruction is chilling in her living room? Thatโs her boyfriend and heโs gonna help her with dinner, donโt be rude.
Her and Isaac are adopted siblings - you can find out about Isaac here - and they both have an artistic drive BUT while Isaacโs passion lies in figurative arts, Maggy is more of a writing type. Personality wise, I envisioned her as a really sweet, passionate girl, but also with an extremely short fuse. Quick to anger! But also very quick to calm down if people donโt respond to her anger - Judas is a master of this trick, while Isaac can get as emotional as her and their fight usually devolve into screaming matches.
This doesnโt mean sheโs constantly looking for a fight, in fact she knows how to keep her cool if the situation calls for it. Her emotions only get the best of her if sheโs with people she trusts and if the situation is dire enough (like discovering your beloved boyfriend killed the son of Godโฆ). Sheโs also a huge nerd! And a bit feral. Could either ramble for hours about her interests or eat a bell pepper like it's an apple. That's why her boys love her so much. Her and Judas met when they were in middle school and have been inseparable ever since. They bonded over their mutual interest in history and literature, so much so that they ended up pursuing a higher education in their respective fields. But while Judas had no problems getting a masters, Maggy spent years struggling to complete a base three-year degree* and ended up dropping out entirely. In the years she wasnโt studying, she focused on writing and publishing her first book, but that didnโt go so well either. She eventually ended up applying for a job at a kindergarten not too far from her home - where she met Lilith - all the while still trying her hand at writing. Sheโs currently working on a second book, with the help of Isaac (illustrations) and Judas (research).
*I am using my own experience with Italian university, I donโt know how American colleges work lol sorry. Anyway in Italy university is divided as such
Laurea triennale (three-year degree) - 3 years. This is the basic degree.
Laurea magistrale (masters degree) - 2 years. You can only access this after completing the three-year basic degree.
Dottorato (doctorate) - 3 years. Can only be accessed after completing the 2 year masters degree.
If you wanted to get a doctorate youโd need to go through 8 years of school. Judas has completed 5 years of studying (therefore has a masters degree) and is now taking a sabbatical before working on his doctorate. Magdalene dropped out after a couple of years and never completed the basic three-year degree. Hope this is clear enough!
Anyway, dropping out of school didnโt make Magdalene any less educated. She loves learning! And both her and Judas have amassed a huge library filled with every single book that captured their attention. Sheโs also very curious and has a knack for teaching herself new things, like calligraphy, cooking, and even lerning new languages. Everything that catches her attention - from mushroom growing, to crystals, to ancient religions - is free game!
Despite all this, dropping out of school and seeing her first book flop did put a damper on her overall mood. While her loved ones reassure her that her worth isnโt defined by her successes or lack of thereof, deep down she feels like a failure. Sure, she has a job, but idling away the rest of her life at a 9 to 5 isnโt really a thing she sees herself doing. At the same time, sheโs afraid of putting too much hope into this new book, because another failure might push her to give up writing altogether and make her truly miserable.
As for her religious belief, sheโs a born again Christian. She had a slight crisis of faith after highschool - nothing too serious, she just didnโt see the point in going to mass every week and was frustrated that this thing that was supposed to bring her joy felt more like a chore than anything. With her being a rebellious teenager at the time, she did a complete 180 and converted to satanism for a while. Her parents didnโt really support her decision, but they didnโt stop her either, as teenagers are teenagers and they just wanted their girl to be happy (and not hurt anyone or herself in the process).
During this phase of her life she dabbled a little in witchcraft, and her knowledge of tarots and crystals comes from here. She didnโt do much more than that though, as she was still a bit skeptical of the whole magic ordeal.
Eventually she met Azazel, who was nothing short of horrified to see her proudly announcing she was a satanist, since he had direct experience with the guy and could attest he was an asshole. Seeing a real demon from hell scared her half to death but since he was very sweet and knowledgeable, he managed to help her find her faith again and answer all the questions she might have had in the meantime. This does not mean that Magdalene is now the stereotypical Good Christian Girl Trademark. While her faith in God is stronger than ever, she still takes all the rules imposed by the human Church with a grain of salt. Sheโs not a zealot, but still goes to mass and tries to love her neighbour the best way she can (even when itโs difficult!).
More stuff (rapid fire)
She likes to joke sheโs the worldโs worst Catholic as she still reads tarots from time to time and stili has her pendulum and crystal collection
While she still has an interest in divination and magic, itโs from a purely cultural perspective now.
Her new book is aboutโฆ the adventures of Perseus. I am getting meta with my story lol
I had the idea she was able to mend clothes and sew, but I donโt think it fits her too much anymore, so now whenever she needs something done she gives it to Isaac.
#tboi#binding of isaac#the binding of isaac#tboi reincarnation#reincarnation au (working title)#tboi au#tboi fanart#pillart#lore post#character sheet#tboi magdalene
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Being Spiritual Not "Acting" Spiritual
Thursday - February 27, 2025

In many ways the "New Age" movement has not served us, mainly by convincing us that a crystal, feather, tarot card or unicorn is "spiritual." At the same time they forget a notepad, web cam and microphone are also "spiritual."
Spirit needs the physical thru which to express, which is why the "spiritual" sign of Pisces sits opposite of Virgo, the sign of reality. No crystal or other tool is going to work until it is brought into a daily physical action. And I offer up that my notepad, web cam and microphone serve my spiritual expression right now more than any tarot card I've ever pulled.
That is the teaching today as we enjoy a New Moon at 9ยฐ Pisces at 7:44pm ET. 9ยฐ is an Aries ruled degree, and is the 5th of 6 New Moons we are experiencing at this very active degree. It's the reminder that Spirit is not a concept, but a reality, and a reality that requires daily interaction.
You already know this, but the "spiritual" community loves to blow sunshine up your astro, and who wants to challenge spiritual "authorities." Well dear readers, you're going to have to so says Black Moon Lilith that moves to 27ยฐ Libra roughly 10 minutes before the New Moon. She's challenging you to take action (27ยฐ, another Aries ruled degree) despite your fear, and despite what others will say.
Folks ... the Lightworker community is falling down; a consequence of Pluto in Capricorn. Don't look for the "spiritual," look for the real, the authentic, and that which is whole.
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Hello, beautiful! Hope everything is okay โบ๏ธ
I was wondering if you could tell me what black moon Lilith in Scorpio and 9th house in 9 degree aspecting (opposition) mars means?
Hello, lovely! Thank you for reaching out ๐ how are you?
Lilith in Scorpio in the 9H Your mind is hungry for deep truths philosophy, the occult, taboo knowledge. Youโre not satisfied with surface-level answers; you want to tear the veil off reality and uncover whatโs really happening beneath it all.
Opposition to Mars This creates a tense, electric energy between your personal drive *Mars* and your wild, primal instincts *Lilith*. Thereโs a push-pull between acting on raw desire vs. needing to explore deeper meaning.
This aspect can make you magnetic but unpredictable. You might attract lovers who challenge you or push your boundaries, leading to power struggles or intense chemistry. Your sexual energy is transformative, and partners might feel like being with you changes them forever.
You have unstoppable ambition, but sometimes, you wrestle with inner resistance or external conflicts that slow you down. Youโre here to learn how to balance power and control. When to push, when to surrender.
What to do with this energy? I believe you should own your Intensity. Youโre meant to go deep, explore the forbidden, and shake things up. Learn the art of strategy, with Mars in opposition, picking your battles wisely will help you avoid unnecessary drama. Channel your fire. Passionate pursuits like writing, research, or even physical movement martial arts, dance, etc, will help you release pent-up energy.
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Very little changed over the next several days between Alastor and Lucifer.
So little changed, in fact, that Lucifer would have added, 'if anything.'
Lucifer was self aware enough to understand that he didn't have much experience with the concept of dating. The lead up to his marriage with Lilith had been all mutual curiosity and respect as both parties explored their relatively new existence and each other. Lucifer had been attracted to Lilith's independence, her strong personality, and her breath taking beauty. Lilith had been attracted to his respect for her autonomy, his dreams and aspirations, and his dorkish personality.
That curiosity had quickly turned to heated passion. Everything that followed had been a whirl wind of action and reaction from the moment Lilith and Lucifer had utterly and completely derailed The Divine Plan.
All of this to say, he'd really only 'dated' one person in his life.
He wasn't completely naive to other types of relationships. He had eyes and ears that worked just fine. He had had more than enough time to observe other being's relationships from the outside over the last ten thousand years. He'd read stories. He'd heard songs and ballads. Not even living in hell was capable of completely eradicating the concept of love and romance. The Hellborn were just as capable as humans of having loving and meaningful relationships, even if it was warped to a degree by the nature of their species.
His biases had largely left him willfully blind to the fact that sinners were just as capable of building those relationships. Being at the hotel and living amongst some of those sinners was going a long way to opening his eyes to the things he had been trying to ignore. The hotel was indeed providing a space to indulge in those healthier emotions, but with the exception of Husk's and Angel's thing, many of the relationships he was seeing had formed outside the hotel.
So, Lucifer had his one relationship to base around what it might be like to give and receive love. He knew what love could look like from the outside in all its multifaceted glory. He knew what he himself was capable of giving and he had seen that sinners were capable of giving.
All of it left him with the utter and complete certainty he had no clue what to expect from this relationship.
In a moment of late night insanity, he had thought to see if he could draw any parallels between Alastor and Lilith to perhaps glean some guidance over how to navigate the situation. That plan had quickly backfired because they really only had three things in common: they were both fiercely independent, they were very driven individuals who would do anything to reach their goals, and they were both taller than him. So,that was a no go.
Lucifer was fine with letting Alastor set the pace for this. He was in no rush and this wouldn't be the first time he'd allowed someone else to set the tone of a relationship. He simply wished he had a better idea of what Alastor did want out of this. At that time, several days after their getting together, all Lucifer had gleaned was the impression that Alastor was enjoying his victory and savoring the accomplishment.
It was this feeling of being stuck in a holding pattern with little idea of how to move forward that set Lucifer's feet to bringing him to the radio host's door early that particular afternoon.
He was just raising his fist to rap his knuckles against the door, when it opened seemingly on its own. When he saw no one in front of him, on a wild guess, he looked down. There, only coming up to his waist, was one of Alastor's shadow minions. It danced lightly from foot to foot, a giggle on its lips, at the sight of him. Just as suddenly as it was there, it promptly vanished.
"Do come in, dear," came floating out from the depths of Alastor's room. "Someone might see you and then we'll never be rid of the questions."
Dear.
It still sent a little zip up his spine, the endearments. Said for him when no one was paying attention, they serve as little treasures to prove he hadn't gone around the bend and started making up truly tall tales.
Lucifer stepped across the thresh hold, closing the door behind him. He turned the knob as he did to hide any click the door would have given as it shut. Hand resting on the knob, he peered around the room for his partner.
As it had been the last time he'd gone looking for Alastor, the room was empty at first glance. The fire was lit, but no one sat in either of the two chairs in front of it. The bed was made and unoccupied. The bayou stretched out before him, the lone chair and table like wise left without their owner's attention.
Movement drew his eye. Popping up from behind the large roots of a tree was one of Alastor's minions. This one was smaller than the last - the height of a house cat on all four paws - its size resulting in it being nearly dwarfed by the roots around it. When it spotted him, it lept over the obstacle. Hands in the air in a most comical fashion, it scurried its way between the tree and the edge where the bayou met Alastor's suite. There, it paused, its tiny hands coming up to rest on the wooden planks that simply phased out of existence at the border between the two dimensions. It smiled widely up at him, its little tail swaying back in forth in a leisurely manner.
At least someone was thrilled to see him.
Lucifer cautiously approached. He would have thought if he could hear Alastor's voice, the owner of the voice would be nearby, but there was still no sign of the sinner as far as the eye could see. He knelt down at the border, holding his hand out to the little minion. It proceeded to rub its forehead up against his hand, not unlike a feline seeking attention from someone it had deemed worthy of it's attentions.
Lucifer huffed, amused. "Is Alastor around here somewhere?"
The minion nodded enthusiastically as it pointed off into the bayou. It bounced on its feet, making a 'come hither' motion. When he stepped off the edge of the boards and onto the grass of the bayou, the minion twirled around and scurried off.
Lucifer set himself to an easy pace. He didn't have to worry that the minion would leave him behind. Every time it saw it was outpacing him, it would double back. When he was within a meter's distance, it would be on its way again. This carried on for a while, past the point where Lucifer could no longer see Alastor's suite if he searched for it. He wondered, not for the first time, how deep this forest went.
Occasionally, he would catch sight of figures moving along the trees: eyes glowing in the darkness, peering curiously at them as they passed. Another pair of eyes watched from a nearby pond, the rest of the creature's body hidden beneath the water.
The minion paused at another large knot of roots. It lit up with excitement at whatever it had found. It bounced up, spinning around in mid air as it raced back over to him. Without a by-your-leave, the little being suddenly dug its tiny claws into his pants. A "Hey!" had barely left Lucifer's lips, before it had decided he made a good perch and proceeded to climb up his side. It settled itself on his shoulder, an air of content to it.
Lucifer eyed it, disgruntled but endeared enough by its cuteness to allow the indignity and let it stay. Feeling slightly put upon, he crossed the remaining distance to the tree the minion had stopped at.
All irritation disappeared as he got his first look at where the minion had been leading him. A medium sized clearing opened up before him, trees lining the edges, cutting a clear boundary between the clearing and the rest of the forest. Dark green grass and the occasional cattail swayed in a breeze lightly making its way through the clearing. In the exact center of the clearing was a pond, obviously intended to be the focal point of the landscape. Countless fireflies flitted around, offering more light than the moonless sky above.
Tending to the pond and whatever was in it was the elusive Alastor himself. He didn't look up from his work as Lucifer approached, the turning of his ears the only indication he was aware someone had arrived.
Lucifer stared around the clearing, taking everything in. He hadn't seen this much green and brown foliage outside his occasional trips to Earth since before he and Lilith had been dragged out of Eden. He could feel the faint wisps of the sinner's magic everywhere, suggesting this place was something Alastor had recently created.
It was beautiful.
"You've been busy." Lucifer did a complete 360ยฐ turn, taking everything in. "Is this where you've been hiding away?"
Alastor didn't immediately answer beyond a soft snort. He finished bringing a cattail into existence exactly where he wanted it, before straightening and dusting his hands off against each other, the leather of his gloves making a scuffing sound as he did so. When he turned to address his guest, there as pleased smile on his face. "I had meant this to be a gift for later, but since you are here..."
He held out his hand, offering it to Lucifer.
Lucifer glanced at it. For a moment, he thought the permission to touch Alastor was the gift - he certainly could have yielded the opportunity to do so as such. Lucifer was touch starved enough he would have gladly accepted whatever scraps the redhead was willing to offer.
Alastor raised an eyebrow at him, his eyes narrowing as if he could read every thought passing through his head. The redhead pointedly held out his hand a little further, indicating he wanted Lucifer to take it.
The blond cottoned on to the fact that Alastor was offering to show him something. Taking the offered hand, he let Alastor draw him closer to the edge of the pond he was working on. As he stepped up closer, the sinner gestured out to the pond with his other hand.
At first, Liucifer wasn't certain what he was looking for. He assumed it was something either in or on the pond. He was just opening his mouth to ask, when he spotted them.
Ducks. A family of ducks, at that, made up of a mother and six ducklings.
Lucifer felt no shame over the squee that slipped out, the high-pitched 'ee!' caused Alastor's ears to flatten against his skull. The king paid the discomfort little mind as he dropped to his hands and knees right there at the water's edge, wanting to get a better look at the animals.
The abrupt movement disloded his little passenger along the way, sending the minion tumbling head over heals into the grass. It giggled as it disappeared off into the grass.
The ducks were all a pure white, with orange-yellow beaks, and little black, button eyes. They were all smaller than the ducks he remembered, making them seem oddly chubbier and cuter for it. The babies trailed after the mother duck, all of them swimming along in a straight line as they made their way from one end of the pond to the other.
Lucifer stared, hearts in his eyes. Were his tail out, it would have been waging happily at the sight. Not daring to make any sudden moves least he scare them, he whispered, "Are they real?"
Alastor's tone suggested he was internally laughing at him. "They're quite real, my dear. They're called Call Ducks. Imported straight from Earth."
The statement was just alarming enough to grab Lucifer's attention away from the ducks. "Wait." He twisted around to frown up at his partner. "What do you mean, imported--"
He broke off as Alastor knelt down and retrieved his hand. Confused, he could only watch as the sinner poured something into it. Whatever it was, it appeared to be oats. "I feed them earlier," Alastor said by way of explanation. "But I think they will enjoy a treat."
As if he were seeing someone else's hand be moved, Lucifer watched Alastor guide their hand - one over the other - out over the pond. The redhead whistled, a single note. Lucifer might have been able to put together what he was witnessing on any other day, but his brain was too busy gibbering about 'ducksducksducks' to put two and two together.
The mother duck noted their presence, alerted by the whistle. She caught on to the oats almost immediately. Showing no fear, she started her way across the pond.
Any coherent thoughts proceeded to fall right out of Lucifer's head with little hope of recovery. Utterly enraptured, he could only stare as she made her way over and dug right into the oats, straight out of their hands.
And, of course, where she went, her children followed.
Ducks were known messy eaters. As she gobbled at the oats, some of it spilled out of their hands into the water. Not to wasted, the ducklings were quick to attack the treat. Nothing would likely be left behind by the time they were done.
By the time they finished, Lucifer was near vibrating with excitement. Eyes large and efficiently brain dead from the sight of his second favorite thing in the universe (after his daughter), he looked at Alastor, managing to get out a squeaky, "They're so cute!"
Alastor blinked at him. The blonde could only guess what sort of impression he was making in that moment. He knew he certainly didn't look even remotely like the King of Hell.
Lucifer simply didn't care, because ducks.
Alastor snorted, the noise sounding suspiciously like a cut off laugh. "I'm pleased to hear you think so, dear."
A corner of Lucifer brain power not being taken up by the neon lights flashing that ducks were here, in Hell, somehow, was sorry that he had likely just missed an opportunity to hear Alastor's first real laugh in his presence. "Where...?"
Alastor released his hand. "They were acquired from a rescue shelter that cares for wild animals." Alastor gazed out on his -and Lucifer's!! - little flock of ducks. "Only two of the children are her own. The rest were orphaned."
Lucifer reached out and ran the back of a single finger down the mother's back. She tolerated the attention, likely having gotten used to human's during her stay with them. He poured a little of his magic into her, just enough to find evidence of a recently healed wing. She quacked at the odd sensation, but didn't swim away.
As the children swarmed around her, giving him easy access to pet them too, he asked, "Did you steal some ducks for me?" He had been going for a teasing tone only for it to come out a little too much like wonder.
It was perhaps because of this that Alastor didn't take any offense. He only sounded amused as he countered, "Hardly. The human's were told they were being sent to a new habitat and here they are!"
Hell was certainly a new habitat, alright.
Alastor wasn't done. "The children are all from different parents. I felt it was a nice start for potential breeding pairs when they get older." He stood, wiping his hand off with a brush against his coat. "I might have to add another few ducks later for genetic diversity, but I felt this was a good start."
Lucifer felt what little brain power he'd regained over the last several minutes short circuit all over again, completely forgetting his attempts to woo a shy duckling over to him. His head snapped around to stare intensely at Alastor, uncertain if he had heard him correctly.
Alastor had said they were potential breeding pairs. He was talking like this was a long term project.
Alastor had also said they were a gift. For him.
Did that mean Alastor was indeed viewing their partnership as a potential long term project as opposed to a short term one?
He opened his mouth. He had no clue what he was going to say. He never got the chance to find out, as he was abruptly cut off by the loud bang of Alastor's door slamming open for the second time in as many weeks.
"Alastor! I know you're in there!" Vaggie's voice carried, far more than it should have considering how deep they were into the bayou. "Get out here. Charlie has the next exercise prepared and she wants you there!"
A flash of annoyance crossed the radio host's face. None of that annoyance was in his voice as he called back, "Do tell Charlie I'll be along shortly."
They could hear grumbling under Vaggie's breath. They were silenced as she shut the door, off to her next task.
There was a long pause. Lucifer wanted to ask if his theory was correct. Burned with the need to ask.
Alastor, sadly, was already thinking ahead. "You might want to run along yourself, my dear." His smile widened. "They might have questions if they knock on your door and you're not there."
Lucifer cursed him for being so logical. He only had himself to blame, really - keeping this on the down low was his idea - but they were having a moment and he wanted to explore it more!
If Vaggie did knock on his door and fail to find him in, it would be a hassle to pretend he didn't know they were about to do an exercise and he just hsppened to stumble across it. Better to be there and be invited.
With great reluctance, he gave the mother duck a last pat of farewell, before disappearing back to his room in a whisp of red magic.
No sooner had he returned to his room, then a knock came at the door. It wasn't Vaggie's voice he heard calling out to him, however.
"Dad? Are you awake?" It was Charlie's.
Lucifer had enough sense to magic away all grass stains from his ever-so-white pants and any other lingering evidence. He did no effort to hide his good mood as he opened the door, as seeing Charlie almost always brought a smile to his face anyway. "Hey, Char-Char! What's up?"
Charlie tilted her head to the side. Her eyes ticked back and forth as she scanned his face. A smile of her own pulled up her lips at his enthusiasm. "You seem in a good mood."
I have a new partner, he didn't say, not yet. He needed to tell Charlie about his relationship with Alastor, just as soon as he was convinced it was going to last.
Alastor got me real, live ducks, he didn't say, even as the thought caused a his heart to skip a giddy beat.
Instead, he said, "It always brightens my day when I get to see you." It was even true.
Charlie's whole demeanor softened. "Aw, it makes me happy to see you too, Dad."
Lucifer's heart skipped a giddy beat for an entirely different reason. Clearing his throat in a poor attempt to hide how happy he was with that statement, he asked, again, "What brings you up here?"
Reminded of her purpose, she reached forward and snagged one of his hands. Without bothering to ask permission, she pulled him out of his room and started dragging him (willingly) in the direction of the stairwell. "We're going to do the trust exercises you suggested!" She bounced a little as she walked, the movement causing their joined arms to sway up and down. "Even Alastor has agreed to join in!"
If this had been a week ago, Lucifer might have jumped at the prospect of playing a game where they had to guess the lie from a couple truths for the nefarious reason of looking for more material to use against a certain radio host. Post having started a relationship with the before mentioned radio host, Lucifer found himself excited over the prospect of potentially learning more information about his mostly mysterious new partner.
Lucifer's gift only went so far as to covering all of Alastor's sins. Everything else was a blank slate save whatever he had picked up over the last few months.
Speaking of his 'gift', it crossed his mind that playing Two Truths and a Lie with the King of Hell was arguably a bad idea.
Lucifer's gift-curse for seeing a sinner's sins applied to all sins, both in life and in death. Sins that ranged from the innocent little white lies to the most heinous of crimes. Granted, he had to be looking for it to see it, something he didn't do in general because he largely didn't care enough to look nor did he want to add to the mess in his head, but the fact still stood that for all intents and purposes, Lucifer was a living breathing lie detector.
He pondered mentioning this as Charlie gathered them all together in the main lobby several minutes later. Angel and Husk had already claimed a portion of the couch. The former of the two scooted over when he spotted Lucifer trailing along behind Charlie, who had yet to release his hand.
Angel patted the empty seat beside him. "You're always welcome to sit next to me, short stuff."
Lucifer laughed awkwardly, standing there for a moment after Charlie let go of his hand to go and commandeer the armchair for her and Vaggie. He was aware Angel flirted as easily as he breathed and he was still thankful for his new freedom and protection. He was also (mostly) certain the sinner didn't mean anything by it. The way Angel was slouched to the side with his legs across Husk's lap went a long way to supporting that assumption. He just knew if he did say anything, it was going to come out extremely off the mark.
So, instead of responding, he sat down in the open space, studiously ignoring the smirk Angel was throwing him, as if the sinner had been able to read that entire conflict and found him adorable for it. The corner of his lips twitched with the urge to pout. For the supposed King of Hell and all that, it seemed he was an open book, with all that people could apparently read him like one.
Vaggie entered the room with a plate of cups filled with what appeared to be water. Angel and Husk eyed it as if it were poisonous, while Charlie happily snagged herself a cup and downed it in a single go. It would sit empty beside the other untouched drinks for the duration of the game.
Alastor sauntered in with his usual nonchalance. Niffty skittered around his feet, having meet up with him at some point before reaching the main lobby. She gleefully took off across the room, and then hoisting herself up onto a chair that was far too tall for her. She didn't seem to mind, as she began to happily kick her feet, eyes darting around the room as if searching for prey.
Alastor took up an armchair near the couch, putting himself near Lucifer's side without them sitting right next to each other. His staff disappeared off to wherever he kept it while he didn't need it as he settled down and made himself comfortable. Noting everyone was present, he asked, "Tell me, Charlie, what sort of lovely task have you come up for us today?"
There was the slightest hint of sarcasm on the word 'lovely' to suggest he didn't actually want to use this word. Everyone knew that if he really objected to taking part in these, he wouldn't have bothered to show up, so Charlie chose to side step his lack of enthusiasm. Standing in front of everyone, she grinned brightly at them all. "Well, as you all know, I'm always open to suggestions and everyone seemed really excited for this exercise, so!" She took a deep breath, a fist pumping the air as she announced, "We are going to play Two Truths and a Lie!"
Angel perked up, showing his interest. Husk grunted, which was about the level of enthusiasm anyone could expect from him. Lucifer had been expecting it, as had Vaggie, so they simply smiled at Charlie's enthusiasm. Alastor tilted his head to the side. He didn't get up, which was as good as saying he was agreeing to participate. Niffty grinned at whatever she was thinking about, which could be worrisome.
Charlie, seeing no one was complaining, gained even more confidence in her choice. Most of her choices were met with some level of resistance, so she was always excited for the ones that everyone agreed to join in. "Alright, so the game is fairly simple. We each tell two truths and one lie. The goal is to see if everyone else can guess which was the lie."
She clapped her hands together. "I'll go first," she volunteered. "I had a gothic phase." She paused, considering. "I've never tasted brownie batter before." She grinned as she finished with, "I have read over 700 books!"
The group squinted at her. Lucifer knew she had had a 'gothic' phase, although that had merely meant dressing in black, dying a strip of her hair black, being rebellious, and dating the troubled son of a family the Morningstars had been close to, once. A painting hung as evidence of this truth in his workroom. He had never given Charlie any brownie batter before, but Lilith might have. The 700 books could be legit. Charlie did like to read. When she had had time to count all of the books she'd read, however, he couldn't fathom.
Deciding to get the ball rolling, Lucifer chimed in with, "The gothic phase was real."
Husk didn't look impressed, muttering, "Rebellious stage."
Vaggie and Angel looked at him as if he'd suddenly grown another head.
Lucifer shrugged. "There's a painting at the palace."
Charlie flushed. "Dad!" She protested. She crossed her arms. "I thought you got rid of that silly thing!"
The short king merely smiled at her. "You're scowl was so adorable. How could I ever get rid of it?"
Vaggie leaned in, suddenly very invested. "Do you have photos of it?"
"Vaggie!"
Vaggie and Lucifer ignored her. He grinned at her, conspiratorially. "No, but I can grab a picture of it the next time I'm there and send it to you."
Vaggie nodded, giving him a thumbs up.
Charlie placed her face in her hands and groaned. She looked as if she were sorry she ever introduced them to each other.
Alastor watched the conversation without any change of expression. In a bored tone, he stated, "It's the brownie batter."
Charlie looked up from her hands as everyone, sans Niffty, turned to him.
The redhead inspected his claws, tone just as bored as he explained, "There was too long of a pause before it." He glanced at her from the corner of his eye. "We really must work on your poker face."
Charlie didn't appear as if she were on board with this idea. Angel appeared more concerned with a different point. Horrified, he turned to her and asked, "You've never had brownie batter before?"
Charlie paused. "Well, I've certainly had brownies before. Mom just didn't believe in eating the batter raw."
Angel pressed a hand to his chest. "Girl, you have not lived until you have had batter raw." He pointed a finger at Lucifer, his spine cracking as it required him to twist around 180ยฐ to do it. "We are making brownies tonight to fix this."
Lucifer held up his hands in surrender, amused. "Sure. Sure." Making brownies so his daughter could taste the brownie mix was hardly the worst thing a sinner had ever asked him to do. It would child's play for him to make certain the mix was safe for consumption without baking.
Uncertain what all the fuss was about, Charlie gestured to her girlfriend. "Vaggie, why don't you go next?"
Vaggie tore her attention away from Angel and Lucifer as Charlie addressed her. She leaned back in her chair, her voice draining of all emotion as she rattled off, "I like Verosika's music, I hate seafood, and I can knit a sweater."
Charlie nearly began to bounce on her feet, obviously guessing the answer. The rest of the group actually making an effort to play along all pondered the possibilities. Lucifer knew she didn't like seafood. Vaggie wasn't a vegetarian like him, she simply didn't care for seafood. He didn't have enough data to guess on the other two options.
Angel inspected her with narrowed eyes. "I'll eat everyone out here for free if you know how to knit a sweater."
Amid a groan or two of disgust and a hurried decline, the fallen angel glared at him. "What's that supposed to mean?"
The spider sinner smirked at her. "Exactly what I said." He leaned in. "So? Can you do it?"
His expression said he almost wised she could.
They stared at each other, daring the other to blink.
Eventually, she sighed and waved a hand, "Nope, can't knit a sweater."
There was an almost audible sigh of relief. Quick to want to change the subject, Charlie nervously said, "Well, that's one for Alastor and one for Angel." There were hints she was forcing her smile as she turned to the porn star. "Angel, how about you go next."
Angel affected an entirely different approach. He lounged in his seat, smile saucy and lazy. "Okay, I have a twin sister. I prefer men - if you know what I mean." Here he waggled his eyebrows at them, leaving no room for interpretation on this front. His smile turned to a grin, "I can also burp the alphabet, backwards."
Lucifer looked at the group. Charlie had moved closer to Vaggie to converse. Alastor and Niffty were still off in their own little world, not willing to tune in to the conversation unless necessary. Husk was gazing longingly at the bar, but was unwilling to move Angel's feet to get to it.
He also looked suspiciously like he knew the answer.
Charlie decided to take a stab at guessing. "You don't have a twin?" She sounded like it was too much of a question for it to be a statement. She wasn't certain of her guess.
Angel's grin turned into a wistful smile. "Nah, I have a twin. Never seen her down here, but she's real."
Charlie glanced at Vaggie. Cautiously, she asked, "Oh. Maybe she's in Heaven, then?"
The spider sinner didn't appear as if this was a touchy subject. "Oh, yeah, she was a sweetie. No way she'd ever wind up down here."
Relieved she hadn't stepped on his toes, Charlie smiled herself. "Well, maybe one day you'll get to see her again." Her tone was confident. She had complete faith that Angel could one day be redeemed, as she had seen his heart herself.
Angel rubbed the back of his neck. He liked attention, sure, but he didn't know what to do with the mushy stuff.
Taking pity on him, Vaggie said, "The alphabet backwards, then." She grimaced, as if she were imagining him doing it either way.
He beamed at her. "Right! But I can do it forwards, though." Everything about her expression begged him not to demonstrate. He grinned at her as he nudged Husk with his foot. "Your turn, Whiskers."
Husk didn't respond, clearly uninterested in playing in favor of getting a drink.
Angel dug his feet in. "Game first, then drinks."
The winged cat sinner threw him a dirty look. "Fine," he spat, not quite spitefully. "I love gin. I can play the saxophone." He pointed a thumb at in Alastor's direction. "I can drink Alastor under the table." He glared. "Happy?"
Angel, satisfied, let him up.
Alastor side eyed him. "Come now, Husker, you're not even trying." All he received in response was a grunt, a clear 'no shit.'
Angel kicked one leg out, while leaning on the other. "Smiles is right, Husk. That one's too easy." When Charlie and Vaggie shot him blank looks, he laughed incredulously. "Aw, come on! Haven't you noticed he doesn't touch gin unless there's nothing else to drink?"
Vaggie rolled her eyes. "Not all of us are avid drinkers." She glanced at the bar, where Husk had snagged himself some whiskey from his personal stash. He raised the bottle to her and then downed a mouthful.
Attempting to regain control of the conversation, Charlie nervously cleared her throat. "Well, yes. That was... enlightening." She looked between Angel and Alastor. "Since you both knew the answer, I think it's fair to give you both a point." She held her hands, one to each of them. "Which means you're both back in the lead!"
Alastor didn't appear to care one way or the other about this new development, but Angel at least seemed amused with it.
Charlie walked over to Niffty. "I think Niffty should go this turn!"
The little maid shifted, her attention going from every else in the room to the group with such intensity, several members of the original Hotel group began to remember the last time Niffty had looked that happy about a trust exercise. Charlie began to look nervous, while Vaggie and Angel began to brace for impact.
Niffty's expression was unhinged as she held up her needle. Her tone dreamy, she said, "I looooove cleaning." Everything about her tone suggested it wasn't the cleaning part she loved. "I once caught a roach the size of my head." Considering they were in Hell, this was absolutely plausible. "And we have rats in the basement."
Charlie, Vaggie, and Angel were alarmed.
"We have a basement?" Angel asked, turning to Lucifer.
Charlie and Vaggie also looked at him in askance.
Lucifer blinked at them. Yeah, sure, he had helped rebuild the place, but he hadn't rebuilt it alone. Surely the remembered they had a basement? "Uh, yes?" When this didn't soothe their worries, he further explained, waving both his hands, "But there's no rats or mice down there!"
Niffty sighed. That same dreamy tone was in her voice as she wistfully said, "But I wish there was..."
Everyone, sans Alastor, collectively went, "Nope." and that was that.
With Niffty out of the way, that just left Alastor and Lucifer.
Perhaps eager to get his turn out of the way, the radio demon decided to skip the line and volunteer. "Let me save you some time and go next, shall I?" It was uncertain if he was talking to Charlie or Lucifer, but they both nodded regardless. "Very well."
If anyone was going to give them a run for their money, it was going to be Alastor. Sure enough, he started with an easy one, "I hate sweets." Everyone nodded, the sinner having made no secret of this. "I worked at a restaurant before I became a radio host." He glanced at each of them in turn, face a perfect mask. "I was married once."
Complete silence. Even Husk had paused in his drinking.
Nothing about Alastor's tone or expression suggested which of the last two were the lie. It was clear which option everyone wanted to go with, but considering how obvious a lie it was, everyone had begun to second guess if it might be true.
Lucifer knew he could just Look. It would tell him without a doubt which was the lie. Besides the fact that it was obviously cheating, he wasn't too keen on resorting to using his powers to sus out if his partner was lying to him this early in their new relationship. Relationships were supposed to be built on trust and all that.
Alastor took in their reactions, enjoying watching them want to call him out on his obvious bullshit while also not being entirely certain he was lying.
Niffty, with the same unexpectedness of her taking out Adam, turned her head to look at him, her body creepily not following. Mournfully, she sighed, "No one has ever tied this bad boy down..."
Angel laughed nervously. "Ha! Right? As if anyone would want to marry Smiles, here."
"Angel!" Charlie glared at him. "That's not a nice thing to say."
Angel glared right back, unrepentant. "What? We were all thinking it!" He gestured to Alastor, saw the look the radio host was giving his hand and dropped it, but still argued, "Who'd want to date a psychopath like him, anyways?"
Lucifer pointedly did not so much as glance in Alastor's direction. He tried to keep his face perfectly blank. It was by and large the fact that no one was looking at him that no one noticed the faint blush to his cheeks.
By the time Charlie gave up on trying to get the spider sinner to apologize, Angel having fallen into a demure pout with his arms crossed, and turned to her father, all traces of his blush was gone. "That just leaves you, Dad."
Lucifer being over ten thousand years old meant that he had a lot of things he could pull from. Some of them would indeed sound wild, some of them mundane. He decided to go with a mixture. "I can see everyone's sins." He tapped his chin. "I gave birth to Charlie, not Lilith." He smirked. "Lilith and I lived with Adam and Eve for a year before I gave Eve the apple."
Charlie rolled her eyes, "Come on, dad, you could have made this hard. Obviously, it's--"
Angel twisted around, fixing him with a stare that was all wide eyed and intense. "You can see all of our sins?"
The implications of this seemed to sink in as Husk, Vaggie, and even Charlie joined in the curious staring, his daughter's original complaint gone. Even Alastor seemed to perk up at this, although nothing about his expression suggested if this was news to him or not.
There was something uneasy in Husk and Angel's staring, which made Lucifer shift in his seat. Holding up his hands, he was quick to reassure them of their privacy. "It only works on sinners!" When this failed to put Angel or Husk at ease, he explained, "It was something I was cursed with as King of Hell. I was supposed to judge everyone, but I haven't done anything like that in quite a few millennia."
He shrank back, wishing he had gone with something else instead. He didn't like the distrust in the eyes of the people he had been working so hard to get to like him. This was why he didn't get involved. He inevitably fucked up.
Seeing his mood turning, Charlie reached out a hand to him. "Dad--"
A phone rang, loud and shrill.
Everyone carrying a phone pulled out them out. Lucifer almost cried with relief when he saw it was his own phone. Holding it up as if it were something sacred, he said, hurriedly, "I, uh, have to take this."
He didn't care he was practically fleeing as he made a break for the stairwell. Without looking at the caller ID, he pressed the answer button. "Hello?"
Static greeted his ear, high pitched and grating. He winced, pulling the phone away. Holding it a distance from his ear, he tried again. "Hello, is anyone there?" When no one answered again, he said, "Look, if this is a prank call: ha ha, very funny."
Nothing. Just more static.
He went to hang up, only for the call to drop.
Irritated, he pulled up his call log. Not many people had his number. Lilith. Charlie. The other sins. The important Goetia. Sera, although she liked to pretend she didn't. Somehow, to Lucifer's eternal aggravation, Adam had gotten his slimy hands on it. He enjoyed calling up Lucifer every now and then to say shit when he was drunk and wouldn't remember anything the next morning.
He pulled up the log. There on the screen, read, PRIVATE NUMBER.
"Private number?" He muttered to himself, incredulous. He narrowed his eyes at the device as if it had betrayed him somehow. No one in Hell could block their number from his phone. The only being who was a) outside of Hell, b) had his number, and c) could do such a thing was Sera and she never bothered. So who...?
His grip on the phone tightened, as he remembered there was one other possibility. Someone who had his number and was potentially outside of Hell. Someone he had no clue where they were or what they were doing.
But why would Lilith be calling him from a private number? Why now? Why call him at all?
He shook his head. He would drive himself around the bend into total insanity if he started down that road. For all he knew, someone had dialed the wrong number. He heard it happened to other people.
Intent on returning back to the lobby and putting it out of his mind, he slipped his phone into his back pocket and turned around.
Only to nearly run right into Husk.
For the second time that day, Lucifer made a rather undignified noise, this time out of fright. He took a step back, nearly stumbling over the first step of the staircase. "Husk!" He placed a hand on his chest, his heart pounding. "Seriously, we need to get you a bell or something."
Husk's poker face was in full force, expression completely blank as he watched his king make a fool of himself. His arms were crossed, though not in a holding sort of way. Every line of his body was tense. He was seriously unhappy about something and his tone matched this as he stated, "We need to talk."
Lucifer took a moment to compose himself. He thought he knew what this was about. The winged cat sinner wouldn't be the first human he had told about the 'seeing sins' thing, but he would be the first to feel comfortable enough around Lucifer to confront him about it. The blonde pointed off in the direction of the kitchen. "Chat in the kitchen work for you?"
Husk nodded. He pivoted without waiting to see if Lucifer was following, obviously in a hurry to get this conversation over with.
Lucifer pointed to lobby. "Aren't they going to miss us?" The game was nearly over, with just his round needing to be concluded. He didn't particularly want to subject himself to more potential questions, but he was less willing to face his daughter's disappointment for bailing on the conclusion of her game.
Husk's ears swerved around until one was pointed in the direction of the lobby. "Al took off shortly after you did. Niffty didn't stick around much longer. The other's aren't expecting us back."
Lucifer peaked into the lobby as they passed. Sure enough, Alastor and Niffty were no where to be seen. Angel had commandeered the couch and was scrolling on his phone. Charlie and Vaggie were talking about something, the former of the pair briefly looking up to wave at him as he passed. Her expression still held hints of worry. Nothing about the wave indicated she wanted him to come in.
He was sorry he had soured her exercise, even if he was glad he didn't have to face anyone just yet.
No one, except Husk, it seemed. Upon entering the kitchen, they both took up positions that wouldn't block either from the door and would allow them both to see if anyone entered.
There was a long pause. When it didn't seem that Husk was going to break it first, Lucifer decided he might as well go. "Look, if this is about the sins thing, I haven't seen any of your--"
"You're an idiot." Short, and gruff, always to the point, this sinner was. Husk's body language hadn't changed, and he showed no concern for the fact that he had just outright insulted the Devil himself.
Lucifer paused, not having expected that. "Ha?" Lucifer placed a hand on his hip, the other going to his ear. "I know I'm getting up there in age, but I could have just sworn you called me an idiot." He pulled a face. Husk may be one of his daughters friends and also under his own protection, but he would still retaliate if this little sinner thought he could just randomly start insulting him.
Husk didn't appear intimidated. "And I'm not going to thank you." He swirled the whiskey in his bottle, once and then twice. "Whatever game you're playing with him isn't going to end well."
Ah, so they were having that conversation. Lucifer had been getting suspicious he was going to get nothing but silence from the sinner for the foreseeable future on this subject. It had been almost two weeks, he wondered what had made the sinner speak up now. Lucifer made a show of rolling his eyes. "I'm not sure why everyone seems to think I can't handle myself."
Husk didn't ask who else was questioning his life choices. He simply decided to go for straight the juggler. "He's got your daughter wrapped around his finger."
Lucifer internally winced. It wasn't like he had forgotten about the incident with Charlie. He hadn't forgotten about his and Alastor's standing deal and what was still owed. It had simply fallen to the way side in light of their romantic confession.
Where it would have stayed, until the next time Alastor came to feed.
He sighed, feeling as old as every one of his years. "Look, as I said before, I appreciate your concern-" and it was, regardless of the way Husk was presenting it, "-but Alastor doesn't have enough of a hold over me to stop me from taking him out if he actually tries to hurt Charlie."
It would devastate Lucifer to do it, even this early in the relationship. Make no mistake, however, Charlie was and always would be his number one priority, even if he was sometimes shit at showing it.
Crossing his arms himself and feeling done with the conversation, he said, "Look, if that's all this was about, don't worry. I didn't do it for a thank you." Although, he would have admitted, it would have been nice to have received one. "You're not in my debt, yadda yadda. Now if we could move along--"
Husk, on the other hand, wasn't done with the conversation. "That's not all," he interrupted.
Lucifer narrowed his eyes at him. He eyed the whiskey, tempted to turn it into vinegar. "Oh?" he asked, his eye twitting.
"Alastor wanted me to tell you: he's calling in his favor."
The chain around Lucifer's neck tightened in anticipation. Was this what Alastor had meant when he said that he would find a way to tell Lucifer about the favor? Slowly, he met the sinner's eyes. "What?"
"I don't know any of the details, okay?" Husk looked away, for the first time, his mask slipping and giving away how uncomfortable he was. He shifted his weight, bouncing the bottle against his leg. "Al... is on someone else's leash. His favor is to break his contract."
Lucifer felt himself go cold. How did this happen? When did it happen?
All of a sudden, all those little things he'd been seeing clicked into place, the puzzle taking shape. Alastor's interest in his ability to break contracts. His satisfaction upon witnessing Lucifer break Angel and Valentino's deal.
The stiches across his mouth, the ones that looked suspiciously like they might be keeping him from doing something, such as telling anyone about his situation.
He'd been such a fool. The pieces had all been there. He simply hadn't been willing to see.
Through numb lips, Lucifer whispered, "Who?"
Husk shrugged. "Don't know. I just know it happened some time before I met him."
Which could mean anything. Lucifer had no reference for how long Husk had been under Alastor's thumb, only that the redhead had viewed the contract as a prize and he hadn't gone after any Overlords in a while.
Lucifer brought a hand to his forehead, closing his eyes against the reality of the situation. Oh, Alastor, he couldn't help but think. Stupid, foolish sinners, every single one of them.
Anger brewed beneath the surface of his shock. Regardless of how or when it had happened, Alastor was his sinner. More so now than ever before. They had laid claim to each other, if only through words, and Lucifer would be damned thrice over before he was going to lose that stubborn asshole to someone else.
Alastor's words from that morning came back to him. 'A gift for later,' he had called the ducks.
He laughed, causing Husk's fur to stand on end. 'A gift,' indeed.
At least Alastor had put some thought into the damn apology.
Pulling his hand down his face, he teleported himself away, not bothering with a goodbye of any sort. He doubted the winged cat sinner was expecting one and Lucifer wasn't in the mood for wasting any time.
He was on the hunt and he had a feeling he knew just were to find his prey.
Lucifer materialized right outside Alastor's door. As he was reaching for the knob, he heard the unmistakable sound of the door's lock clicking as it engaged. He paused, hand hovering above the knob.
It made no sense for Alastor to call in his favor and then try to stop him.
Was the being he had made the deal with here? In the hotel? Surely someone would have noticed if some new stranger had been sneaking around the hotel, right? Could it be someone who already lived in the hotel? That made no sense, as Husk and Niffty had been on Alastor's leash, and neither he nor Charlie or Vaggie had the contract. So, who could it be?
Regardless, they were sorely mistaken if they thought a simple lock could keep the King of Hell from taking back his partner.
He opened a portal into the room, completely bypassing the door. Stepping through, he could instantly tell the feel of the room was... off. For one, all of the lights were out, even the fire. The only light came from whatever gave the bayou it's natural light.
The next clue came from when he spotted Alastor. It wasn't hard to find him, for once. The green glow of the stiches across his body made him a fairly easy to spot, drawing the eye right to him. The sinner was standing in the middle of the room. He didn't say anything to the intrusion, as the stiches were pulled tight around his lips. His eyes were wide over them, and although there was a hint of fear in them, they were red on black with rage.
He also didn't move as Lucifer cautiously approached. It was likely he couldn't, if the stiches on his body were playing a similar role to those on his mouth. At his feet, his shadow spread out behind him. Using the light of Alastor's hijacked magic, it worked it's way up the wall behind the sinner. It's silent laughter was in direct contrast to the sinner's anger.
Lucifer looked him up and down, affecting a nonchalant tone of voice, feeling pissy the sinner was still plotting, even now. "Quite the pickle you've got yourself into."
Alastor's eyes appeared to be the only thing he was still in control of. They twitched with irritation.
Lucifer was tempted to tease him. Oh, so very tempted. The almighty Radio Demon, known for being quite the talker, and here he was effectively silenced. His smile promised he was going to have fun with this later.
For now, there was bigger fish to fry: like discovering who exactly owned Alastor's soul.
Lucifer's hand darted out, forcing the contract chain into being as wrapped his hand around it.
Only to drop it immediately after. Frost had begun to appear on his hand in the few seconds he'd held onto the chain. He hissed, shaking the limb out as he took the thing in.
The chain itself was black. A black so true it ate at the light around it, as dark as the void at the center of a black hole. It had been painful to the touch because of the fact that it was colder than the dead space between the planets that made up his father's universe, so cold it had burned his skin.
He had never seen anything like it.
He had felt something like it before. Once, a very long time ago.
It had the same feeling as the darkness that had crept into the universe, all those millennia ago, intent on devouring everything in its path, until it had been driven down, down into a prison built just to contain it.
It had the same feeling as the darkness that had been unleashed on humanity when Eve first bit into the apple.
Rising up like a nightmare, Lucifer remembered the feeling he had gotten while traveling through Alastor's shadows. That feeling he could have sworn he had felt before, forgotten, but so familiar.
There was only one being that feeling had ever belonged to.
For the first time since agreeing to Alastor's terms, Lucifer felt a trickle of concern that he might not actually be enough to solve this problem. Unsure if he was more horrified or furious, he turned on his partner and hissed, "You made a deal with the Root of All Evil?!"
There was a superstition amongst humans. That to say the name of of the thing, you could potentially summon it. Maybe it only took uttering the name. Maybe it took saying three times. Maybe it took a ritual. Usually it was a load of hogwash and nothing would happen. A fun party game to frighten one's friends. After all, higher beings usually had better things to do then answer whenever someone called their name. If they were paying attention at all.
Some beings, however, were always listening. After all, so few beings knew their names, how could they not help but pay attention when someone called them?
All around them, the shadows darkened. They swarmed the border between the bayou and the suite, cutting off any retreat in that direction. Lucifer wasn't surprised to see the door and the portal he hadn't closed cut off as well. Dozens upon dozens of eyes all opened up along the walls and within the shadows, every one of them zeroing in on the two of them.
An eye opened up on the face of Alastor's shadow, leaving little room for guessing who was in control of it. It stretched up to the ceiling, until it was directly over the redhead. Hands spread out, green strings materialized between it's fingers and Alastor's body.
A puppet on a string.
Anger and fear battled for dominance behind the sinner's eyes. Anger was winning, but fear nearly took over when his arms began to rise up, hanging limply from the strings. He made eye contact again with Lucifer, which is when the blonde noticed something else in the redhead's gaze.
Faith. And under that, confidence. With a jolt, Lucifer realized that they were both in him. Alastor had laid down his hand and made his bet. That Lucifer could break this deal and set him free. A deal he had made with the Root of All Evil, no less.
The radio crackled to life. "Hello, little star." There were no words to describe Roo's voice. Every time Lucifer had ever heard it, it had unsettled him. This time was no different. In the darkness, it almost seemed like the voice was coming from nowhere. "I see you've discovered my toy."
Lucifer shivered, not bothering to hide it. "Pleasure's all yours, Roo." He looked up at Alastor's shadow and the eye staring right back at him. "I see you've been rather naughty, lately."
She laughed, the shadow forcing Alastor to bring a hand to his mouth. The redhead's ears flattened tight to his skull. Try as he as he so clearly might, however, there was little he could do to resist. "You're one to talk. Ten thousand years of marriage and all it took was seven years for you to move on?"
The shadow gave Alastor a shake. "Although, I suppose I can understand why." Roo's voice smoothed out into a drawl as she teased, "He's such a smooth talker, isn't he?"
Lucifer refused to dignify either of those comments with a response. "Let him go, Roo." He gestured to the room in lieu of Hell, expression sly. "We both know what happened the last time we fought."
The shadows writhed and wriggled around his feet, nearby but not quite touching. The sound that came out of the radio didn't sound human. Lucifer barely reacted, but Alastor's fingers twitched like he wanted to cover his ears.
It took little thought for Lucifer to unfurl his wings. A dim, divine golden glow appeared around his body, a shield against the weaker shadows.
"Ah, yes, the time you and your siblings sealed me away." The shadow raised Alastor's hand to his eyes, having him peer around as if looking for something. "But wait, what's this I see?" Both hands rose to cover his mouth in mock surprise. "Poor little Lucifer, all by himself. Abandoned again!"
She jeered at him, calling up a laugh track to join in with her.
Lucifer's mouth turned down. "Maybe, but where are you?" Roo was still sealed away, this was a fact. He would know if she had escaped. She had to be using Alastor as a conduit to manipulate the world from her prison. Which meant that for all that she was in control of Alastor, this was the extent of her reach. "Still in your cage if you're playing with dolls."
Even through Roo's control, Alastor managed to sneer at the word 'doll.'
Lucifer shot him an apologetic look, promising to make it up to him later.
Roo made a considering noise. "Does it matter?" The shadows trailed up the redhead's body, almost like a caress. "This one is mine, willingly given." Those same shadows sinched around him, hugging him in a overly tight embrace that Alastor quite frankly didn't care for. He grunted as the air was forced from his lungs. "You might have been able to take him from me, once, but how far you've fallen. Nothing more than a tarnished light fighting a losing battle against the darkness."
Lucifer flared his wings, his form brightening significantly. Around him, the shadows sizzled and screeched as the were scorched by the intensity of his light. Tarnished or not, light was light, and his still burned bright.
"There's that fire. Show me you have some fight left in you, little star." Alastor's hijacked shadow's grin only widened at the sight. "Take him from me if you can."
In the time she had been imprisoned, Roo had forgetten that Lucifer hadn't been just any angel. He had been the light bringer; Venus in the morning sky; the herald of the dawn: the morning star. He was the only one with enough power to hold Roo back, even just for a second.
And a second was all that he needed.
A bright flash of light filled the room, tenfold the one he'd light off the first time. The light would have been inconvenient to a human. Sinners or winners, they still contained the capacity for good and evil, light and dark. Alastor was little different, for all that he revealed in his status as a sinner. His soul was still contained some shades of grey.
Roo, on the other hand, was a being of pure evil, a darkness so vast and complete, there wasn't a shred of light in her. The burst of light burned her weakened shadows, some of them evaporating Ike steam under the first rays of the sun.
Most importantly, her hijacked shadow looked away.
Lucifer threw himself at his partner, pushed along by a powerful beat of his wings. Alastor squinted down at him as the blonde nearly collided with him, pupils the size of pin pricks. His rictus grin was strained, but real. It grew as Lucifer reached up, tapping the gem resting in the hollow between the sinner's collarbone on the radio host's bowtie.
The protection spells Lucifer had cast into the gem flared into being around them, just as the light from the fallen seraphim's stunt began to fade. A dome of Hellfire fell down around them, shielding them from outside attack. It wouldn't take Roo long to burn it out, between her own power (minute as it was with her imprisoned) and Alastor's stolen power. It would first, however, serve a crucial role.
It cut Alastor off from his hijacked shadow.
The green strings fizzled off inside the dome, allowing the sinner's arms to drop. Their continued existence outside of it a reminder of the threat they were under. That the moment the dome burned out, Roo would regain control of her puppet soldier.
Lucifer was having none of that.
He grabbed hold of the chain, wrapped it around his fists to get a good grip on it. The links began to burn his skin upon contact, his skin already beginning to form ice on it. He grit his teeth against the pain and held on.
Shadow minions slithered out of the darkness, scurrying around the dome and beating their fists against it. As one caught flame and burned away to ash, another instantaneously took it's place to inflict it's damage before it too burned away. On the ceiling, Roo's stolen shadow snarled. It didn't dare get too close lest it face the same fate. Cut off from Alastor, there was a chance it wouldn't reform under Roo's power.
The radio crackled and sparked. Roo's voice poured from it like sludge. "You can't break this deal, Dear Lucy." She cackled, enjoying watching him struggle. "He was never one of yours."
As she said it, Lucifer could feel a twinge of truth in her statement. The contract resisted him, not necessarily because it had been made with Roo, but because neither contractee had been a denizen of Hell when it was made.
Lucifer felt a flicker of confusion, a pause of doubt. His attention slipping for just a moment. The contract wasn't old enough to have been made when Alastor was alive and he was a sinner. Lucifer had read his soul and seen his sins. If contract was made after Alastor had died, but if it hadn't been made in Hell, where else could it have been made?
The warm kiss of leather brushed his cheek, startling him out of his thoughts. He looked up to meet Alastor's red-eyed gaze. The radio host's expression was soft and as close to apologetic as the blonde had ever seen it. For the first time since Lucifer had stepped into the room, Alastor spoke with his own words. "You've trusted me this far, my dear." His hand cupped the side of Lucifer's face. "Trust a little longer. I will explain everything."
Lucifer searched his face. Alastor was good at subterfuge and distracting from his true feelings, but look long enough and one could see his tells.
Lucifer didn't need a curse or a gift to see he wasn't lying. This was a promise he intended to keep.
Lucifer leaned into the hand, turning his face into it as he took moral strength from Alastor's support. He gave the sinner a stern look from under his lashes. "We are going to talk after this. Keep your other secrets, but I want an explanation for how this happened."
Alastor nodded. "It's a promise."
Confidence restored, Lucifer turned his full might to the chain. Alastor took a step back, giving him the space he needed to work. The control Lucifer usually exerted over his form slipped, unleashing his true form and freeing him of any last distractions. "I don't care when or where Alastor made this deal." Tightening his grip against the frost forming on his hands, he growled out into the darkness, a threat and a promise, "Whatever he may have been before, Alastor is a sinner now. Which puts him under my jurisdiction."
Lucifer strained against the chain. It was still fighting him, but as there had been truth in Roo's claim on Alastor, there was also truth in Lucifer's. Whatever Alastor had been when he made this deal, he now quite firmly belonged to Hell.
Alastor's/Roo's shadow seemed to realize this, it's smile twisting down into a snarl. The shadow minions redoubled their efforts, throwing themselves against the shield with abandon. It flickered in warning that it wouldn't last much longer.
The King of Hell let out one last burst of light. If he was going to break the chain, he needed to do it now, as he wasn't going to be able to manage another burst like that. He knew he was finally making progress, when at blessedly last the chain finally started to give. Panting, he declared triumphantly, "And above all else, Alastor is mine."
The chain cracked, like fissures in ice. The radio gave off a static filled scream that caused Alastor to wince and cover his ears against it.
Lucifer couldn't spare it the attention, nearing his limits. His arms strained, muscles aching as he poured all the power that came with position as the King of Hell and all of its people, into pulling at the weakness in the chain until-
The link broke.
Like a ice breaking off under the heat of the sun, the chain link severed, setting off a chain reaction along the other links. Each cracked and broke apart, running off into the darkness in one direction and up to the collar around Alastor's neck in the other. The pieces fell like broken shards of ice to the floor, where they melted and vanished into the floor.
Cut off from their source of power, all of the shadows around them gave one last frenzied swarm down onto the shield. They managed, at last, to take it down, but it was already too late. They took out the last of the shield, as it took out the last of them.
The radio, now visible on the shelf, let out a truly unholy screech before the poor radio gave out, sparking as its death cut off the noise.
All of Roo's eyes closed as one. Alastor's stolen shadow shrunk in size, returning to the shape of a normal shadow at the sinner's feet.
For a moment, reality seemed to glitch around Alastor's form. One minute, Alastor the Radio Demon stood free in all of his glory.
In the next, there stood a figure in pale purples, blues, and pinks. Black horns now an ivory white. The only thing that remained the same between Alastor as Lucifer had always known him and this new(?) figure, were the tips of his hair and ears were still black.
The most noticeable - and perhaps most damning - however, were the halo and wings.
An angel's halo and wings.
Alastor... had been an angel?
Alastor took this in with not a ounce of surprise, confirmation as to the truth of the matter. If anything, he appeared annoyed with this new development. "Well, this is a unfortunate turn of events, if I do say so myself." He gave the wings a disdainful glare as they fluttered and ruffled up with his annoyance. "And after everything I did to get rid of all this."
He needn't have worried too much. Between one moment to the next, reality remembered the old (new?) world order. Alastor's form glitched for a second time, like a badly tuned tv. When he came back into focus, he had returned back to his reds and blacks, no wings or halo in sight.
The room fell into silence, save the soft crackle of the flame between Lucifer's horns. They both stared at each other.
It seemed, at last, it was over.
Lucifer stumbled, his vision greying out as his legs gave out underneath him. Alastor darted forward, catching him before he could hit the ground. Lucifer true form retreated, until all that was left were his wings, hanging limply behind him. They were likely making him heavy, too, if Alastor dropping to his knee was any indication.
"Lucifer?" Alastor sounded concerned and inching towards alarmed.
Lucifer had wanted to hear him call his name again, but not like that. It was nice to know he cared.
He mustered up enough energy to reach up and flick his partner on the forehead. Unlike the last time he'd done it, Alastor merely pulled a face. Lucifer's arm dropped down to rest at his side, as he no longer hand the energy to hold it up. "You have... so much... explaining to do."
He could hear Alastor saying something in response to this, but the words were lost on him. His vision was swallowed by darkness, taking his consciousness along with it.
The last of his strength giving out, Lucifer passed out.
-tbc
#radioapple#alastor#lucifer morningstar#deer lucifer fic#hazbin hotel#um#surprise?#there are things mentioned in this chapter#that i'm not certain when or if they'll ever be explored#but i do promise we will be coming back to the angel thing#next chapter in fact#:)
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Astrology Observations


~ I can see a rainbow
In your tears as the sun comes out ~
๐ - Sun aspecting the ascendant natives will always have an inner "shine" inside them, their energy is so warm and kind
๐ - Midheaven at 5ยฐ, 17ยฐ, 29ยฐ (In Leo too) gets easily liked since childhood, you know that child everyone likes, they can also be talented from young
๐ - Venus in Earth Signs is possible the most secure Venus ever as they always have everything planned and in order but also a luxurious style
๐ - Sun or Moon in the 11th house make friendships for life the same if you have 1st house lord in the 11th house!
๐ - Mars in the 11th house or Mars in Aquarius can sacrifice for their friends, people dear to them, Mars here is always thinking at the others
๐ - Moon in the 3rd house natives can tied themselves to others emotionally, Moon here can be very social but also shy in the same time (depends on the aspects)
๐ - The RISING SIGN in your Aura Asteroid (1488) PERSONA CHART can show your overall aura you send to others/first impression
Fire Rising -> Fierce, wild, brave, bold, confident, stubborn, loud
Earth Rising -> Cold, stylish, patient, chill, respectable, natural,
Water Rising -> Nurturing, with the head in the clouds, sensitive, fresh, sensual
Air Rising -> Invincible, mentally strong, communicative, friendly, catchy
๐ - Sun combined with fire Degrees 1ยฐ, 13ยฐ, 25ยฐ, 5ยฐ, 17ยฐ, 29ยฐ, 9ยฐ, 21ยฐ will always the the coolest people, this fire energy gives them popularity and they're well liked by others

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Some see crazy where I see love
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๐ - Natives with Uranus aspecting Sun/Ascendant or Midheaven had crazy/innovative ideas about the world since they were young
๐ - South Node aspecting Sun or Moon will give you an attachment energy, like getting attached by literally anything, places, people, stories, events etc
๐ - Aquarius Rising or at Rising at 11ยฐ, 23ยฐ is known for being humanitarian! Standing for people's rights
๐ - Eros (433) in Sagittarius/9H or Eros at 9ยฐ, 21ยฐ degrees. Literally the archer archetype, their arrow will strike your heart and you can fall in love with their exotic nature
๐ - Lilith in Capricorn/aspecting Saturn will not let anybody to bring them down, because karma always returns. Sooner or later
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๐ - Mercury in the 7H natives are heavenly blessed, this placement will give you lots of closure and communication with your spouse
๐ - Mars aspecting Uranus natives need lots of movement, they're explosive type of people, they have a unique sense of rebellion
๐ - Sun aspecting Neptune natives can be the kindest people in the room, sadly sometimes they tend to get ignored by others that's why you need to find good people around you

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You fall so low but shoot so high
Big dreamers shoot for open sky
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๐ - Pluto/Mars in your 1st house will change you so much during life, they're both very changing and unexpected when it comes to your life path
๐ - Lilith in Leo / 5H / in Leo Degrees 5ยฐ, 17ยฐ 29ยฐ have their special charm, Lilith finds herself very creative and inspirational here
๐ - Some "mini - observations" about Lilith (h12 or h13) aspecting the ascendant ( all aspects/including minor ones)
People will get attracted by your persona
People can judge you for who you are (don't mind them)
People can be curious about your past
You can attract manipulators/toxic people/
You can be confused about your sexual desires
๐ - Lilith in Aquarius/ 11H / at 11ยฐ, 23ยฐ is when Lilith finds about all the things that were hidden from her and wants to start something new, wants something unique, wants something different
๐ - Lilith in Gemini / 3H / at 3ยฐ. 15ยฐ. 27ยฐ degrees have a really sexual/sensual voice let's not lie here, they're openly communicative and can sense what people are feeling without them telling that/ Some people say Lilith is exalted in Gemini but I'm not really sure!!
๐ - When Moon is aspecting Mercury you find these natives you get easily along with, like you share the same things together with them and that's what makes you special
๐ - Jupiter aspecting Moon is a very deep placement spiritually, like they can understand things not that not everybody can and their open minded persons can open new doors for them in life
๐ - I would love to have Moon in the 5H because is a very artistical, creative, lovely place for the Moon to be in. Moon is actually full of life here, and people with those placements are blessed!๐ฉต
๐ - Moon in the 10H is not far away from being creative as well! But here they put in practice their creativity with their work and their environment!
๐ - Asteroid Aphrodite (1388) being retrograde in your chart indicates healing beauty/self beauty, is actually not as bad as you may think, Lady Aphrodite is not that harsh here!

I can see a rainbow
In your tears as the sun comes out
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๐ - I heard that when Vertex aspects your Sun you're favored by the men in your life and when aspects the Moon you're favored by the women in your life
๐ - My asteroid amor in Pisces at 0ยฐ is crying right now because every time there is an love asteroid mine has to be around 0ยฐ - 5ยฐ degrees axis and not aspecting anything ๐/๐ญ/๐คก (Are you joking to me... is in the 2H as well I hate asteroids in this house)
๐ - Anyways you guys, having amor (1221) in Gemini or 3rd house will mske you to crush for multiple people at once and attracting more love interests
๐ - Amor in Capricorn or 10H will make you to attract responsible/respectul/determinated partners, some of them can have a reputation (10H energy)
๐ - Being born with 11th house placements/Stellium can be truly a gift because is the house of the community and desires, you are meant to find your community of people
๐ - Natives with major 4H placements can have a strong connection with their family/ancestors/relatives and even at raising their own family
๐ - Sun in Taurus/2H and Sun at 2ยฐ 14ยฐ 26ยฐ degrees are easily liked by people, they have a very caring and kind energy, they are the symbol of peace
๐ - Sun in Gemini/3rd or Sun at 3ยฐ, 15ยฐ 27ยฐ degrees are like a social butterfly, they're funny, they have a very charismatic energy, they are the cherry on the cake literally
๐ - Can we talk about Saturn/Neptune in the 6H/12H can drain natives like subconsciously and spiritually?? Like people can steal your energy and mood/even happiness at times. Take care
๐ - Aries Mars/Venus/Saturn, have a bit of spiciness in them. One thing about them is that they'll love to catch people's attention and most times it works
๐ - Some "Juno Observations" and things about your spouse
Juno in Leo/5H natives probably will have a spouse who will cherish them, also a spouse who can be proud of them
Juno in the 9H/Sagittarius natives will have that romantic travel thingy with their spouses
Juno in Earth Signs can get married to a very hardworking spouse, that spouse that's always busy with work
Juno in Pisces/12H is so magical, they can have that intense spiritual energy with their spouses
Juno in Scorpio/8H can have very private and secretive relationships, they don't want people to know about these
Juno in Aquarius/11H can date/marry someone from their friends cycle like kind of friends to lovers thing
Juno in the 6H can have a very blessed marriage/relationship because their spouses can be their source of happiness
๐ - Something underrated about Sagittarius Placements is their INTUITION. They can possess a very strong intuition and clever mind to help them during bad situations
I have a friend who's telling me " I may be stubborn as a TAURUS but I have the intuition of a SAG" love that every time.

๐ - Having Jupiter aspecting your Moons makes you attractively kind. So basically your kindness can be attractive to others
๐ - Saturn in the 7H/Saturn in Libra or Saturn at 7ยฐ 19ยฐ degrees have a karmic love attached to them. They're destined to marry someone karmic as well
๐ - Chiron in Earth Sings like Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn, the wounds can be healed using nature's help. just go out and embrace the nature you can heal that way, mother nature is calling for you
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I am here and I see your pain
Through the storms, through the clouds, the rain
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๐ - Chiron in Water Signs like Pisces, Scorpio and Cancer, the wounds can be healed with understanding your emotions and inner child. But also the sea or ocean. Can be very dear to you and may heal you or relax you
๐ - Chiron in Air Signs like Gemini, Aquarius and and Libra talks about understanding who you really are because from all Chiron signs these they deal with personality or identity wounds is important to find who you really are inside
๐ - Chiron in Fire Signs like Aries, Sagittarius or Leo is to never let people steal your spark, or things that make you happy, be as you want or wish. Be wild like the jungle and never ever stop believing in what makes you happy
๐ - When Moon finds herself in Earth Signs she may act more "motherly" or more "caring" this is giving a lot of Demeter vibes from Greek mythology
๐ - Moon in the 9h or at 9ยฐ 21ยฐ degrees is when the moon finds herself being very creative/happy/lucky and even justice. You are giving Athena from Greek mythology
๐ - Having Asteroid Vesta (4) aspecting Lilith in harsh aspects. These aspects tell about rights and justice and power of freedom
In square, at some point, you'll be called to full an important spiritual mission that can give meaning to your life
In opposition, you may feel torn between your desires and your need to fulfill a sacred calling that requires sacrifice
In conjunction, you can find sexual exploration to be an uplifting and spiritual inspiring experience
๐ - If you have a Libra Moon/Moon in the 7H or Moon under Libra Degree 7ยฐ 19ยฐ. You're an epitome of balance and harmony, at least, that's what people say about these, but the real side of these placements... can be that they can struggle with indecision even though they represent balance, life works in mysterious ways. Remember that Libra is saturnian as well, and if you have those placements yet a chaotic life, it is karmic to find your peace.

๐ - Your sidereal Moon can tell about your inner personality, remember how some say sidereal chart is the chart of your soul. So if you have a tropical Pisces Moon can you have a Aquarius sidereal Moon
I have a Sidereal Virgo Moon, yet I don't find myself critical as some say about Virgo Moons. I would rather find myself more hardworking and nurturing ๐
๐ - Capricorn/10H Moon, it's a place in your chart where your feelings/emotions get exposed to others, so because of these, some people may think youre a cold person when they first meet you
๐ - Gemini Moon/3H Moon they really love to talk, and for their best these natives need to surround themselves with people who appreciate their talking skills, don't stay with someone who doesn't want to hear about how was your day, instead stay with someone who would love to hear about your day!!
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๐ - It is known for Aquarius Placements to have the power to influence people! It works especially when our world is literally controlled by technology! People can actually follow your lead (I also adoreeee their humanitarian side because they won't settle for less when it comes to the rights/equality)
๐ - Because I really love the past life themes and I know that if you have South Node aspecting Saturn you can have and you stoll had karmic past lives
๐ - Jupiter or Mars in fire signs are very intense so full of emotions, sometimes even out of anger, very stubborn energyyy, gets angry fast. Can't handle when people tell them they're wrong
๐ - Those born with Uranus in the 3H/6H or 12H can predict things that can happen in close future
๐ - Saturn/Capricorn in your 12H can tell about having more struggles when you're younger and more peace when you're a bit more mature/older
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๐ ๐๐๐ง ๐ฌ๐๐ ๐ ๐ซ๐๐ข๐ง๐๐จ๐ฐ
๐๐ง ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎ๐ซ ๐ญ๐๐๐ซ๐ฌ ๐๐ฌ ๐ญ๐ก๐ ๐ฌ๐ฎ๐ง ๐๐จ๐ฆ๐๐ฌ ๐จ๐ฎ๐ญ
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๐ - I know natives with Leo Moon who have siblings who overshadow them, so in a way, if you have Leo Moon and siblings, you can also struggle with family issues! I also know plenty of Leo Moons that have parents who prefer their siblings instead. Which is very sad because neither of the parents should do differences between their kids
๐ - Chiron in your 11H or in Aquarius can talk about finding the good people to be your friends. You really need to find your community of people
๐ - Uranus in your 8H can talk about a very electrifying and sexual energy! I see this placement so rare in the 8H lol. Definitely unique


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Hi Gaia! If itโs not too much could you please make a post about indicators of moving out of town/abroad in your solar and lunar return chart? Iโll give you a cookie ๐ช
I will accept the cookie, thank you. Nom. โ ๐ฝ๏ธ
I moved a lot throughout my life so I think I'm somewhat familiar with the placements lmao. I'll just be listing some of them as examples.
Usually when concerning moving or traveling whether abroad or at a different state (whether through airplane or not), you'll typically be looking at the 9th and 12th house.
Personally however, I found that it's backed up even more if you have aquarius or aries rising that month; you're facing something new.
Here are some indicators of
moving abroad & outta town



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In the solar return chart
เป๊ฑ 4th house ruler in Sagittarius/9th house
Ex: In my 2015 SRC I moved towns. I had and aquarius IC (ยฐ11 aquarius) & Saturn was in Sagittarius. I moved towns to settle in our new house. Jupiter was at the 11th house at ยฐ22 degrees. My social circle changed, I was the new popular kid on the block. POF was in the 8th house (Cancer w Taurus degree). Switching family homes.
เป๊ฑ 9th house stellium in aquarius/pisces/sagittarius
Ex: In my 2009 SRC, I had Neptune (ยฐ24 pisces), Jupiter (ยฐ24), Chiron (ยฐ22 Capricorn), Moon (ยฐ22) & True Lilith (ยฐ9 Sagittarius) in Aquarius in 9th house. When I switched schools, I found it difficult to blend in with the other kids. I remember thinking "Man they're kind of dumb". & By that I mean they had different interests, they were actually kids. While I was a "Tinkerbell" as my mother called me. There was also a language barrier between me & the other kids. Most of my friends were either 3-5 years older or adults/teachers then. I was a Gemini rising (ยฐ3 Gemini) that year. Mercury was in the 8th house in Capricorn (ยฐ19 Libra).
เป๊ฑ Pisces/Aquarius 9th house
เป๊ฑ Mars & pluto in the 4th/9th/12th house
เป๊ฑ Neptune in the 4th/9th house with pluto/mars/9th house ruler
เป๊ฑ 9th house ruler in the 4th house & vice versa
เป๊ฑ Mars & Sun in the 9th house
เป๊ฑ Part of fortune in the 9th house
เป๊ฑ 9th & 8th house stellium
เป๊ฑ Jupiter in the 9th house
เป๊ฑ Eros in the 9th house (decent booster)
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In the Lunar return chart
เป๊ฑ Sun in the 8th/9th/12th house
เป๊ฑMars in the 12th house
เป๊ฑ 4th house ruler in the 9th/12th house
เป๊ฑ Pluto or Mars in the 4th house
เป๊ฑ Pluto or Mars in the 12th house
เป๊ฑ Sun in the 3rd house in Scorpio w ยฐ24 degrees
เป๊ฑ Sun in Pisces with a Scorpio degree
เป๊ฑ Pluto in the 6th house
เป๊ฑ Part of fortune in aquarius/in the 6th/8th/9th & 12th house
เป๊ฑ North node in the 8th/9th house
เป๊ฑ Aquarius or Aries rising
In my late September 2024 Lunar Return Chart, I had an aquarius rising at ยฐ1 when I first moved into uni. It's in a different state (& I had to get on a plane to get here). During this time, I also had Sun in the 8th house & (true) lilith in the 9th house. Everything points to some sort of change or move; facing or getting used to a different environment. That was my most recent "big move". My 4th house ruler (venus) was in the 9th house as well.
เป๊ฑ gemini 4th house
เป๊ฑ pisces 4th house
เป๊ฑ Neptune in the 6th house
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Placements are interchangeable between the solar return chart & lunar return chart. Please note that having only one or a few of these indicators that are more so "boosters" than solid potential do not immediately mean moving abroad. It's normally a culmination. Indicating a big move.
The reason of this move can usually be seen through the planets themselves & their degrees.
Lots of Gemini degrees? (ยฐ3,ยฐ15,ยฐ27) It's likely for school.
Lots of Capricorn or Virgo degrees? (ยฐ10,ยฐ22) & (ยฐ6,ยฐ18) It's most likely for work.
Lots of cancer degrees? (ยฐ4,ยฐ16,ยฐ28) It's likely for family or sentimental reasons; moving homes in general.
Note that these are not really travel indicators, but moving indicators. Be it moving homes, towns or countries.
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โ ห โน เฃญ โญ . โ โน .โเนโงโ ห โน เฃญ โญ . โ โน .โเนโงโ ห โน เฃญ โญ . โ โน .โเนโงโ ห โน เฃญ โญ
***disclaimer: most of these indicators were derived from my own charts & experiences for educational purposes only, reader discretion is advised***
Hope this helps โก
@northopalshore moving abroad & towns 2024.
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Hi there! Could you please drop some knowledge of Lilith in Cancer in the 7th house in the 9th degree please??
hey!!!๐๐
Absolutely! Letโs break downย Lilith in Cancer in the 7th house at 9ยฐย โ keeping it real with theย wounds, power, and how it might show up in daily life. ๐ค
Lilith in Cancer (7H) This is deep emotional territory. Lilith here tends to carry wounds aroundย emotional vulnerability, nurturing, and relationships. In the 7th house, it plays out throughย intimacy, partnerships, and how youโre mirrored by others. You may have felt like you had to suppress your emotional needs or that your care wasnโt reciprocated. Maybe you've been taken for granted when you showed softness โ or punished when you didnโt. You might attract partners who project their own emotional chaos onto you. There's a tendency to eitherย over-giveย orย totally shut downย in order to protect yourself.
The wound: Feeling unsafe to be soft. Having toย mother othersย in relationships while your own needs go unmet. A fear that closeness = loss of self. The power: Once healed, youโre aย powerful emotional alchemist. You bring depth, loyalty, and fierce love. Your boundaries become healing tools. You become someone whoย teaches others how to love betterย โ not by shrinking, but by honoring your emotions unapologetically.
9ยฐ Cancerย is ruled by the Moon and Jupiter โ this adds a philosophical, almostย spiritually emotionalย vibe. Youโre meant to grow through emotional awareness, and you likely feel things on a cosmic scale. Youโre not here for shallow love. You want the kind of connection that feels like soul recognition.
In practice:
You might crave deep commitment, but need independence within it.
You could be deeply intuitive in relationships โ knowing when someoneโs off before they even speak.
Watch out for giving more than you get โ reciprocity is your love language now.
This Lilith placement is like the dark mother archetype: fierce, protective, emotionally raw, and ultimatelyย liberating. Let your feelings be sacred โ not a weakness
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