#LP Lucas&Athy&Lucas

[carlachen]

看到某個姿勢模板，覺得太適合小說外傳Lucas&Athy&Lucas了 

參考模板在下方

https://twitter.com/ya3_3ya/status/1561323417588346880?s=20&t=epo0p2ZU1hiaI-DSOO9SHA

[doomed-prophetess]

Lucas's dislike for Jennette would be interesting to explore if the reason wasn't because she was the second female lead but because she was a child that was created non consensually with mana stolen from him when he was asleep by the man he rejected (as in metaphorical rape). His hatred for her would be rooted in self hatred. Jennette is something powerful and terrifying, something that should be feared and rejected by society (just like him), both were conceived unnaturally from magic (manhwa lucas is implied to have been sired by the world tree), Jennette was raised by a white haired man who refused to become her family and never made her feel like she belonged (just like him and Gisil), they formed an attachment to a father figure (Caelum, Claude), possibly felt jealousy towards the true child of the father figure (Aeternitas, Athy) and ruined their parent/child relationship.

The difference is that Jennette still clings stubbornly onto her dream of a family, never embraced her "true" nature or put herself above those that were less powerful than her. And this must be incomprehensible to Lucas. Lucas was rejected by the people he loved because of his magic. He looks down on those with less mana than him because he might've begun to tell himself the opinion of those weaker than him didn't matter. They were ants in comparision to him who was basically a demi-god. It would be a nice parallel if Jennette and Lucas both tried to find comfort in a narrative they have constructed for themselves. They are forced into the roles of the lovely princess and wizard hermit respectively through external factors. The difference is that Jennette broke out of her role first in this life.

[ultramarine-spirit]

don't you have a lucathy or athy playlist? and if you don't have one, then which songs remind you of athy or lucathy?

Haha embarrassingly enough (?) I have three whole playlists. Athanasia, Athanasia: Instrumental, and Lucathy. Yes I'm very good at naming.

The lucathy one is slightly cringe, I'll admit, but I still think it's pretty good. Now the Athy ones are pure art, I'm not taking any criticism on this matter. I use the instrumental one to write and study!

This might be silly but I take "playlist making" very seriously. The song's lyrics, melody and Vibes™ have to fit, it's absolutely forbidden to choose a song just because of the title, and overused artists are banned (okay there's a single Mitski song but I genuinely think it fits lucathy). I try to keep them semi short because those eternal playlists get tiring for me. And I also try to use songs in different languages, so there're songs in english, french, korean and japanese.

Out of all the songs I used, the one I think fits lucathy the most is «千ノ縁 (A Thousand Fated Connections)» by Yonder Voice. Yes I'm a Touhou fan.

千ノ縁 by Yonder Voice.

For Athy, «Bulbel» by Mili is absolutely perfect. Or «絶対的一方通行 ～ Unreachable Message», also by Yonder Voice. Both give a lot of LP Athy-Athy feels. I'm eventually using them in some way or another in a fanfic lmao.

Bulbel by Mili.

絶対的一方通行 ～ Unreachable Message by Yonder Voice.

For the instrumental ones, «il» by Jean-Michel Blais, «Bloom» and «Accolade» by Mili, «If You Came Here To Live» by Alex Kozobolis, «Blossom» by James Spiteri— Actually, just listen to the whole playlist. It's super good, if I can say so myself.

[lithi]

Lucas is such an OP character lol 😭 a lot of his actions have snow ball effects on the story

1. He accidentally made Aeternitas obsessed with him WHICH IS THE REASON WHY THE STORY EVEN EXISTS

3. He steals LP!Athy’s mana which makes her. Well. Not die as a child

2. He decides to help Athy keep her magic which also makes her not die as a child + allows her to escape from Claude later on

3. He’s the reason why Athy and Kiel met and became acquainted lol (how ironic for you, Lucas)

4. He decided to leave for the World Tree later than he needed to because he didn’t want to leave Athy. Which fucking killed countess Rosalia before she could even appear 💀

[kai-zenkira]

Wmmap x Iatro crossover headcanons cause I have thoughts.

●Timeline wise it is 4 months post Wmmap and 1 year pre-Iatro

•Age wise it is:

Cossette (physically 18/ 13 January)

Kiera(18/ 16 Febuary)

Jennette(17/ 6 January)

Athy(17/ 3 December)

Ijekiel (20/ 5 March)

Joseph (20/ 5 August)

Erez (physically 21/ 21 October )

•Count Weinberg sent Cosette to the academy because he thought it would be good for her. (He wanted her out of the house)

•Jennette and Cosette share some classes despite Jennette being a year younger. She was put in advanced classes meaning a year a higher

●Anastacius and Jennette now live in and own a bakery the in parvis kingdom

●Athy and Jennette talk through letters sent via magic portal courtesy of Lucas

●Lucas and Erez know of eachother but neither cares much about the other

●The Obelia and Parvis kingdoms/duchies are allies and engage trade back-and-forth

●Cosette finds Jennette somewhat off-putting as she cannot see her face and Jennette has a staring problem.

●Joseph often comes to the bakery and talks to Jennette although he wouldn't call her a good friend.

••After Joseph and Keira become close he brings her along to taste the pastries.

●Athy hates Ludwig (He gives her LP!Claude vibes)

●Jennette will often seek Cosette out when in school. She wants to befriend her.

●Demons feast of black magic so Cosette is slowly and unknowningly consuming Jennete's magic.

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That's all I got. It's a mess and there is more that I do not know how to articulate at the moment!

[ceo-of-jennette-de-alger-obelia]

My wmmap au timeline

So we start with the Lp! Verse

-Jennette wakes up from her illness and finds out that Athanasia had been executed by Claude. Distraught she turns on him and begins to plan her overthrow

-She murders Claude using her black magic and takes the throne for herself. Then starts to study time magic and sends everything back in time to when she was 5.

We leave the Lp! Verse and come into the current timeline

-Jennette wastes no time in studying magic and alchemy. Her magic grows so much to the point that it attracts monsters. To avoid suspicion and potential disaster she builds a small hut out in the forest to work in.

-At 14 she attends Athy's debutante and greets her the same way. Chasing after her to hand back her ribbon, but paying Claude no attention. (I'll probably re-design her debutante dress to)

-Now a slight variation to this au is that Athy realizes early that she was the original Athanasia and had regained her memories too. So she's very apathetic towards Claude and only acts cutesy to please him. She and Jennette share plans to take over the throne through private tea parties.

-Anyways we of course have to bring the boys in here. Kiel is fine and dandy with helping put Athy on the throne and they all pressure Lucas into mentoring Jennie. So now Jennie calls him Mr.Lucas and has a matching cloak like him :D

-So after years of preparation. They set it into motion. Jennette kills Claude once more and places the crown on Athanasia's head. The 4 kids make an mini coronation and present the new empress to the masses. The end

Extra notes:

-I'm making a Siodonnian boyfriend for Athy

-Letizia my baby girl will finally see the light of day after being stuck in my basement. Knight lady Leti and her pretty witch wife Jennette❤️

-Lukiel I guess because I am the biggest, slutiest, whore for rivals/enemies to lovers

@jeweled-blue-eyes Bestie I know you said something about Siodonnian boyfriend once. Gimme your headcanons. The only group projects I like are fandoms ones sooooo

[artxmisq]

My deepest apologies for not posting. It's been like a month right? Idk I can't tell. But I'm back with a new post!

Characters in this post:

Lucas, Athanasia, Claude.

Some random things I thought of.

—.`

𝙒𝙈𝙈𝘼𝙋

Lp!athanasia.... who insists that you call her athy, seeing you as a mother she never had.

Lp!athanasia.... who loves when you praise her when she does or says something.

Lp!athanasia.... that sees you as a perfect being and practically worships you, her nanny, for your kindness and devotion for her.

Lp!athanasia.... who will do anything to keep you away from jeanette, scared that you will leave her for her half-sister. Just as everyone else had.

"You won't leave me, right..? You're supposed to be my mother nanny, after all."

—.`

Wmmap!claude.... who loves adorning you in expensive jewels and clothing, just to rip them off of your body in the night.

Wmmap!claude.... whose grip tightens around you ever so slightly as you dance with him in a ball. Hands holding your waist as the music begins anew.

Wmmap!claude.... who introduced you to his daughter athanasia in private whilst holding your hand, stroking it so you could be more comfortable.

Wmmap!claude.... that adores spending time with you, just laying or sitting together in silence.

"You are everything I have ever hoped for and more, so please.. just, stay. Please, for me..?"

—.`

Wmmap!Lucas.... who will destroy empires if you were taken from him.

Wmmap!Lucas.... who is in love with your cheeky and teasing smile and would kill off thousands in order to see it.

Wmmap!Lucas.... that loves watching your reactions, whether it be you eating something delicious or you blushing at his constant flirting.

"Don't look at them, look at me. I'm the one you love, aren't I?"

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Ciao, Auretta.

[sylver-drawer]

Hi! Please can I ask something about the novel?

Is that true that in a scene Athanasia pretty much threatens Lucas that she'd freeze her heart and emotions just for him doing something she didn't like. And she also hurt him?

And I've also read a spoiler that she was joining in on gossip with her friends calling Jennette ugly, lying to Jennette, and even reveling in Jennette's misfortune and feeling relief at how unhappy in life she actually is. Was she really like that?

Then the spoiled also stated that she kidnapped and knocked out LP! Athanasia, she hides things from her. She apparently also make out with Lucas next to the unconscious body of LP Athanasia Did she really do that to LP Athanasia?

And if all these things are true, can you please give me where you read the novel and the chapter when all of these things happened? Thank you. I would be very grateful if you did it 🤧

I don’t actually remember specifically when Athy and the tea party girls gossip about Jen’s appearence. I distinctly remember though, how Athy would make small comments about how Jen wasn’t all that attractive. It was after her black magic was removed when everyone suddenly just agreed that Jennette “wasn’t as pretty as they thought after all” for some reason. She also seemed to hit and pull Lucas’ hair a lot? Even after he says it hurts? Which is kinda weird, and not really romantic.

However, Athanasia really doesn’t like LP!Athanasia. For a while, almost every instance where Athy sees her, her inward dialogue is expressing annoyance while claiming that LP!Athanasia ‘wears her face while looking so pitiful’ (despite LP!Athy being the original Athy???). The first instance of this is Chapter Two in the Lovely Princess Sidestory, where they literally meet for the first time and Athy is immediately creeped out and disgusted. She’s also irritated when LP!Athy cries herself to sleep after being rejected by Claude again. Because Lucas kidnapped and put LP!Athy asleep, Athy had to pretend to be her for a while and she really hated it.

Athy’s view on Jennette is very strange, too. She appears to like Jen, but only when Jen’s in certain situations. Athy gets a letter from Jen after she gets exiled and appears to be happy when she talks about her life while apologizing to Athy (this is in a different side story). However, when she goes to the world of Lovely Princess, she thinks very harshly in annoyance over Jennette living in the Emerald Palace where ‘she’ should be, as well as how Jennette sleeps so calmly and happily. But she also comments that in the world of Lovely Princess, she’s the only one other than Lily who seems to care about Lovely Princess Athy.

Oh, but Athy does kiss Lucas while LP!Athanasia is knocked out. LP!Lucas put LP!Athy to sleep and wants Athy to become the Athanasia for the Lovely Princess world and stay with him.

It’s also in the Lovely Princess side story where you can find where Athy threatens LP!Lucas that she’ll erase her memories and emotions of him because she knows that’s what he fears the most—which is info she got from SBAPOD!Lucas, and a sensitive aspect of Lucas’ life that LP!Lucas admits he would never tell anyone (which kinda cements how much other Lucas trusted Athy, but also a crappy move Athy pulled knowing it was a sensitive topic for the Lucases).

While rereading the side stories, I also found something interesting. In Lovely Princess, Jen’s black magic was actually helping Claude—go figure I guess? Unlike what people tend to say, LP!Jennette also doesn’t want the throne, either. In fact, she even outright tells the nobles and Roger that Athanasia was better suited to replace Claude (ruling wise) than her. Which is funny since the fandom keeps making LP!Jen as someone who was after everything LP!Athy had. In fact, Lovely Princess Jennette is actually? Really nice? From what the fandom makes her out to be? It could have been a bad translation, or maybe changed for all I know though.

LP!Jennette does internal monologue about how she knows that Claude isn’t her actual dad. But it’s also not as dramatic as the fandom made it to be. Rather, she’s actually quite? Innocently passive aggressive about it? She isn’t clingy to Claude because she wants to hurt Athy. In fact, she’s clingy to Claude because she lokey resents him—because he killed her dad and basically aided in her mom’s death leaving her with no parents. “Because you took my parents away from me, you should take responsibility”. That’s all she’s after, a sort of revenge on the man who killed her father.

All of these moments can be found in the Lovely Princess side story, whose translation I found here.

[lucasdeocampo]

an au where athy accidentally travelled thru time hundreds of years in the past and met little lucas (instead of going to the lp verse) 🥺 she was stuck there for days until her lucas finally finds her.

[myearts-uwu]

My WMMAP character tier list

It’s been months since WMMAP ended so I decided to do a wmmap tier list for funsies.

Tbh, not much has changed since I last did this tier list thingie but I definitely became more... specific with how much I like and dislike certain characters.

Ana’s, Jennette’s, Kiel’s and Roger’s tiers are pretty obvious tbh since I’ve consistently made a lot of posts about them generally. They’re the threads still connecting me to wmmap to this day.

Not much to say about Felix. I just think he’s neat. 

I like Lily and Claude. I don’t simp for Claude as much as I used to anymore tho lol. Nowadays, I just wanna imagine him as an actual dad after he got his ‘redemption arc’... I just like to clown him mostly tbh. As for Lily... I wish we’d have gotten more of her since she is literally the only person who’d always sided with Athy in LP and she’s devoted her entire life caring for Athy. 

Athy, I’m on the bridge of the ‘like’ tier and the ‘you’re okay. we have no beef tier’ because, yeah I like her. She’s the protagonist for god’s sake. But I don’t really... worship her like other Athy enjoyers lol. To me she’s alright. 

I still like Diana but I feel detached from her character tbh. Would have loved her more if she had more screentime... and some personality than just being Claude’s past lover and Athy’s mom who loves her even in the afterlife. But chapter 100 is absolutely beautiful. Loved that chapter so much.

Lucas is mostly meh for me. I mean, yeah he has his good points but overall I’m just not that huge of a fan of his character in the manhwa. Maybe I’d have liked him more if he has more character development. Also maybe if he has friends he wants to protect then I’d have bumped him up to the ‘we have no beef’ tier.

Penelope Judith... she doesn’t deserve being on a proper tier ahsdhcfhsh. She’s just a character I really dislike across fiction. Is she hot? Yeah but she’s not my type of hot. I often stay away from any fan content involving her but I kinda like seeing fanart of her being a mom to Jen. Penelope stans, you do you tho cause you guys are so chill! Love you guys <3

Here’s the link to the tier list if you wanna do it!

Here’s the tier list I made way back in February 2021 (man that felt like so long ago)

[alicehattera03]

Wait a minute...

first pic cred to me(tappy I love u sometimes), second pic cred to Lithi!

NOOO but I came across a post and I was like wait a minute...those sleeves kinda look familiar...and LO AND BEHOLD IT'S THE SAME STYLE AND SIMILAR(SAME???) COLOR AS LP! ATHY'S?!?!?

Then I thought about a happy ending LP!verse where Athy was finally accepted by Claude as his daughter and rightful heir because her mana was restored(let's pretend Lucas didn't eat it bro) and it purified the black magic that Claude cast on himself to forget Diana and all the happy memories. He says, "Athanasia" in a small voice that gets stronger as she gets closer to him until he's crying and she's crying, they're both crying in each other's arms as they finally try to make that happy family they were deprived of for so long.

[doomed-prophetess]

Having lots of thoughts on the naming system in wmmap. Has anyone else noticed how the first letters of the names of the royals in wmmap either start with C or A? We have Ambrose, Aevum, Anastacius, Athanasia, Claude, Caelum, Carax...Can we talk about how the C-named character always kills the A-named character and how Athanasia and Jennette are the one exception and manage to break the circle?

Imagine if the author had given lp Jennette a name that starts with C, which she would have changed in wmmap once she choses to exile herself. What an opportunity for the author to further the Cain and Abel parallels in the naming of their characters in the Lovely Princess. Like Claude and Anastacius? The brothers killed each other out of jealousy, Caelum and [redacted]? Caelum's name doesn't mean immortality, which means he was not meant to be the heir. Did he kill his brother too? Then we have Aeternitas faking his death and changing his name to Carax. And according to novel readers Carax devours the mana of his descendents, most of the firstborns which had been given the name of a ruler: immortal, resurrection, undying, everlasting time, names that were derived from the greek words αἰώνῐος (aionios) or ἀμβρόσιος (ambrosios), αθάνατος (athanatos) and ἀνάστασις (anastasis). Names that started with the first letter A. Carax targeted Anastacius when he was a child, he influenced his mind, ripped apart his family, he might have orchestrated his death too so he could take possession of his body.

Another interesting observation is how there tends to be a reversal. Caelum possibly killed his A-named sibling and his treatment of Aeternitas after Lucas questioned his parentage might have metaphorically killed him too, but Aeternitas returned with another name, he became Carax and murders his own father, Claude killed Anastacius and became the Emperor, but years later Anastacius was resurrected and took revenge. Athanasia was wrongfully executed by Claude, but here again the daughters refuse to become like their ancestors. Athy choses to save her fathers life instead of leaving him to die in his black magic induced coma.

[ultramarine-spirit]

what are your favorite athy's au? In fanfics

Hmmm I don't know if the fandom has that many established AUs for me to choose from, and in WMMAP's setting I normally prefer canon compliant or canon divergence fics.

That been said, I enjoy any type of AU that explores Athy betraying or going against Claude in some way or another. It's just a really interesting idea to explore from a narrative point of view (one of the absolute best fics in this fandom is a russian fic where Athy sides with Ana. So well written). Villainess Athy AUs can be good if done correctly (Athy still has to be Athy, you know? Don't switch her personality to a generic manhwa villainess). I also love those "Athy reincarnates over and over again until she finally snaps" types of AUs. Throw LP!Athy into the mix and you have a heart-wrenching story.

On the more lighthearted side, I like those stories where Athy travels back in time and meets young Claude, before he became the person that he is now. Athy becoming Lucas' magic apprentice is also a very fun idea, but it doesn't come up that often. Ah, does wlw lucathy AU count? Because let me tell you, the way in which Athy speaks about women in the novel- My girl is bisexual for sure.

[lithi]

Hello, I have a question about WMMAP, I heard there is a side story of Ezekiel moving on from Athy? Is that true? And may I have a spoiler about it if there is.

Thanks so much, Have a great day!

Hi <3

In the novel, there is 5 side-stories : one about Athy’s 18th birthday (focused on Lucathy), one about Athy and Lucas travelling to the world of Lovely Princess (mainly Lucathy too though there is some implied LP!Athykiel), one about Lucas’ past, one about Claude, and the last about LP!Lucas crossing dimensions!

In none of these is there anything that indicates that Kiel moves on from Athy… Because that happens in the main story!

At the end of the novel, Ezekiel realises that he had been unfair to Jennette (they had several fights by that point), who is in an hour of need.

So he decides to leave for the country-side with her until she gets better, instead of staying in the capital (with Athy, who pretty much rejected him several times by now).

Their last conversation goes like this, pretty much: Athy tells him to go “where he belongs”, and that Jennette is the one who needs him.

Ezekiel agrees, and adds that Athanasia is a strong person (and thus doesn’t need his presence). Athy points out there seems to be bitterness in his eyes, but that he seems relieved as well.

I hope I was able to help, have a great day too <3

[starlit-dreaming]

[WMMAP] Flowers

Fandom: WMMAP Rating: G Ship: Lucathy Summary: A “LP!Lucas finds his own Athy... except it’s Athy as Lee Jihye cause its a Modern AU that promptly went “Yikes. following canon? lolno” and went off the rails so its not our/WMMAP!Athy”. Note: This is posted under “Lucathy Misc Tidbits” on Wattpad! This is part of my Lucathy Alphabet Writing Challenge that I totally didn’t forget in my drafts to collect dust lmfao

i’m ngl this was originally gonna be Bouquet, but then i 100% forgot that i already picked Bitter/sweet for B rip

obligatory lucathy tag: @lithi @hwang-lucas ily <3

A | B | C | D | E | [F] | G | H | I | J | K | L | M | N | O | P | Q | R | S | T | U | V | W | X | Y | Z

Prompt: Flowers Summary: “in which lp!lucas tries to win lee jihye's heart, told through lee jihye's eyes” AU: LP!Lucas. Modern Setting. Lee Jihye/Pre-WMMAP!Athy.

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F is for... Flowers

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Lee Jihye stared at the stranger with her Customer Service smile plastered onto her face. For the past few days, a guy who was roughly around her age — early to mid-twenties, she guessed, but it’s hard to tell — had been showing up at her day shifts at the convenience store. He was definitely a foreigner — half-Korean, maybe — from what she could gather. He had an accent, and knew next to nothing about currency. Asian-American, she ultimately decided.

Maybe he’s one of those Americans that just didn’t understand how to convert USD to KRW without an iPhone? Which was surprising since he sounded fluent in Korean. Still… he is handsome — she’s heard a few customers murmur about how he looks like a model or an actor, trying to figure out if he really was somebody famous.

He had long black hair tied into a ponytail, with beautiful red eyes. She’s never met someone with red eyes before.

The stranger snapped his fingers and a bouquet of flowers suddenly appeared in the palm of his hand, holding it out to her.

She recognized the white anemones, but not the other flowers.

“For you,” he states, and it was unfair how smooth his voice sounded.

He was already annoyingly pretty, and she knew he was wealthy considering that he gave her a few coins the size of an American half-dollar made of solid gold the other day. It was a year’s worth of her paycheck, apparently, when she got it appraised. She doesn’t regret selling it at all, now that she’s able to afford to eat properly and a heater. Still, how on earth is this guy rich when he’s a magician? Maybe it’s a hobby, something he learned to impress girls, or something.

“Thank you, sir—” she says, taking the bouquet in her hands.

“Lucas,” he states with an annoyingly charming smile.

Huh, so his name is Lucas… oddly enough, it suits him.

“…thank you, sir,” she repeated, eyeing him warily, and funnily enough, he seemed to sulk when she refused to say his name. “I have to ask you to move to the side, however, if you’re not here to make a purchase.”

“What? Why?” he asked, looking rather baffled at the request.

She smiled, trying not to sigh. Judging from his frown, it seemed that he knew she wasn’t being genuine at all. Rich guy or not, she’s still at work.

“Sir, you’re holding up the line.”

[ceo-of-jennette-de-alger-obelia]

Some thoughts about my new Jennette centric au

-It's name is "Crystalline roses and Cobalt thorns"

-Basically this is an au where both lp!Jennette and lp!Athanasia reincarnate

-Jen still yearns for love and appreciation. But is careful about who to pursue it from. (e.g Ignores Alpheus and Claude because they both used her but still wanting Kiel's attention) She's more stubborn and sassy too

-Jen knows that Athy hates her, but she still loves her princess and can even be a little possessive and clingy(which makes Athy VERY confused)

-Honestly most of the plot is of Athy vying for the throne and trying to get revenge on Jen, but Jen is like "oh ho ho silly little Athy tehee" and causing Athy's mental state to go wild and bounce around the walls

-Jen is still very much prone to guilt-tripping and whining to get her way. She becomes more manipulative too.

-Leti and Arhul are here :D. They're here because we need characters who are sane and don't have parental issued to balance out the cast.

-Letizia is Jen's personal maid turned personal knight as well. Jen's main priority is still Athy but they're able to make time for and each other. Jen has someone that will be honest with and can will go along with her weird kinks. Letizia has someone who can be patient with her and is willing to put up with her weird kinks (Omg Jennezia neurodivergent couple!?👀)

-Athy at first pursue's Kiel but ends up with Arhul because I said so(fight me). It's gonna be messy though.

-Lucas is now Jen's new father figure, it does not help that some of Lucas's mana was used to create her.

-I'l be using a shitton of @jeweled-blue-eyes headcanons and posts