#Klarcel

[themoonandthedogstar]

Klaus Mikaelson naming his kids “Little Warrior” & “Little Wolf” is so special to me idk why

[cancerian-woman]

Hey girl! I don't know if you're aware, but in Klaus and kc fics where the oc is his wife from when they were human, somehow Marcel always calls her mom/mama/mother, which I personally so find out of character for him?

He had an awful father, and there's like only one mention of his mother, who died shortly before Klaus adopted him, and I just can't see a child moving on so quickly and calling a woman, a white one at that, his mother? Don't get me wrong, I would have loved for Marcel to have at least one parent figure in his life that actually loved him like a son, but Klaus treated him like a friend/brother, the governor literally enslaved him and we know nothing of his mother.

What do you think?

Hi!

TO/TVDU made sure to sanitize slavery, Marcel’s history as a slave and limit his childhood with the mikaelsons period as much as they could. Then the audience they were marketing the show too was white teens/young adults. No I don’t think Marcel would ever call Klaus’ wife, mom! For the reasons you listed that is his past as a slave and living on a plantation. Naturally Marcel as a child should’ve been more skeptical of the Mikaelsons for the obvious reasons. Which could have been interesting to see. Hell, Kol did go as far to torture him as a human.

It is important to note Marcel never calls Klaus dad, Elijah/Kol/Finn aren’t called uncles, Rebekah/Freya as aunts and while he’s protective to Hope he doesn’t say she’s his sister either. Despite all of this Marcel does view the Mikaelsons as family. Marcel said to Hope it’s hard to hate the person that made him. It’s a never ending complicated relationship. Which applies to all of the family in total. I think Marcel can adapt to someone Klaus dates/married etc longterm but never see them as “mom”. He had a mother who died.

(Edit: I do think if they focused on Marcel being adopted, the Mikaelsons as extended family they’d have to address the Rebekah of it all.)

I think Klaus does love him in his own twisted perception of love. The problem as usual the racist writing but in Klaus/Marcel’s case..the gender norms here. Marcel being a grown man of 170+ years at that. Hope was a girl.

thanks💜

[anewkindofme]

I have a lot of gripes with "The Originals" but one of the biggest is how fast they aged Hope in a short period of time. We got a couple of seasons with her as a baby. I was fine with them then aging her up to 7ish, but then we barely got her at that age before they're like "bam, we've got angsty teen Hope".

I get they were trying to set up for Legacies, but it's annoying. I wish we got more of Summer!Hope. And more of Klaus with a little girl. We didn't get enough of them together or enough flashbacks of him with Marcel when he was a kid.

[andreal831]

how do you think the relationship between klaus and hope would have been different if she had been a boy?

I thought I had discussed this before, but it doesn't appear I have. So thanks for the ask!

We already saw what Klaus was like with a son. He viewed Marcel as more of a friend than a child, waiting for the day that Marcel was old enough to indulge in all of their vices. Now there are always debates on why Klaus viewed Marcel differently than Hope, whether it's race, biology, gender, etc. I personally think it was a combination of reasons.

Hope being a girl was very purposefully done. The show thrived on the trope of "innocent white woman saving terrible bad-boy." And Hope was no different. The show even goes out of there way to point out that Hope saved Klaus when Marcel couldn't. While boy-Hope would have the advantage over Marcel of being biologically related to Klaus, we can't discredit how the gender would play a role. Namely because he would see himself in a boy more and his competitive nature would come out. When Klaus saw Marcel succeeding and essentially becoming like him, he viewed Marcel as a rival. When he sees the power Hope wields, he is proud of her.

We already see how different Klaus is with his sisters than with his brothers. He treats Rebekah like a child most of the time even though she's close in age to Kol, who Klaus treats more as a friend. He is even more gentle with Freya than he is with any of his brothers, after he starts to trust her. But Klaus is not above using violence against women. Yet he didn't want Hope to see that side of him. To the point that he cut off contact with her after she did.

When confronted with an issue, Klaus resorts to violence. We see him do this with Marcel as he gets older. Even when Marcel was a human and the power dynamic was vastly different. There are only a couple of people Klaus' first instinct isn't violence and Hope is one of them. Klaus raising Marcel was more like raising a soldier. Klaus taught him to sword fight but didn't seem interested in his other interest, like piano or reading. While Klaus bonds with Hope over painting. Potentially if boy-Hope had been artistic, they could of still had that bond, however, I think it's likely that Klaus would still have attempted to bond with the boy in more "masculine" pursuits. But again, it would likely still backfire and create a rival.

Klaus and boy-Hope would have had an even more complicated relationship and Klaus would struggle to have a father-son bond, often letting his paranoia and jealousy complicate his love. Klaus would also do less to be a better person as he wouldn't be as concerned with a son behaving like him as he was with Hope. He would likely have had a similar relationship to boy-Hope as he did with Marcel.

[celia39494]

Not me realising that the Mikaelsons only call Marcel "Marcellus" when he's in danger or doing something so stupid, so beyond dangerous, they need to remind him of who raised him lmao like, Marcel thinks it's a good idea to join a cult? - "You could have asked me Marcellus" Elijah, actual-founder-of-the-said-cult Mikaelson.

Marcel gets bitten by Hayley to get venom through his veins and win an actual life or death battle? - "wow, way to go to impress your new friends, Marcellus, bet you're proud of yourself now? " Klaus only-my-blood-can-heal-wereworlf-bites Mikaelson.

Like if they need to actually scold him, it's Marcellus lmao and all of this just for them to jump to his protection the second they see him struggle. I'm sick.

He's their child and he hates it so much too like Marcel "I don't need your authorisation to join a cult" and "whoever comes for you comes for me" Gerard jumping directly into battle knowing damn well Elijah was about to jump between him and any other vampire trying to kill him and Klaus was going to give him his blood anyway. I'm literally so sick it's not even funny anymore.

[klonnieshippersclub]

love ur blog so many klonnie fans. question would Bonnie side with Klaus on Marcel & Rebekah’s relationship?

Thank you! Yes, Bonnie would be very cautious to have Rebekah around their children. Rebekah clearly does not understand family boundaries. I cannot imagine romancing a man you knew as a child. She didn't even truly discourage him when he was open about his feelings for her. That relationship dynamic was very inappropriate from the start and Rebekah chose not to make it clear that they were family. I'm sure it partially contributed to Marcel's understanding of his place with the Mikaelsons. If Rebekah refuses to acknowledge Marcel as her nephew, then he has another reason to feel like he doesn't belong. Marcel and Rebekah’s relationship plays well into how plenty of fans NEVER viewed Marcel as family either and won’t accept him.

[kylermalloy]

I wondered what you would have thought of a scene where Marcel drinks from Klaus by the neck while the rest of the family is forced to watch. Compelled, after he's turned into the greatest vamp

Hmm. Hmmm. I like this idea very much! Definitely something Marcel would do—because while he thinks himself fairer and more moderate than the Mikaelsons (and he is, in some regards) he can still go on a biiiit of a power trip. I’ll still never be over Vincent’s little speech at the end of season 3—“the king is dead, all hail the king.” He lumps Marcel in with the Mikaelsons, citing the destruction of the Strix as evidence that Marcel also goes too far. Marcel also promotes needless bloodshed. And Marcel, unlike Klaus and Rebekah and the others, denies that part of himself. He wants to think he’s better than that. Above all that. (He’s not.)

So yes! I think Marcel would do that to Klaus—as a show of his power, and to psychologically torment the rest of his family. See what I can do to your brother. See how you’re powerless to stop me. See how, really, he deserves it.

[bittergirlsworld]

the originals season 2 episode 11 or as like to call top tier klarcel content

[viavolterra]

says the mf that was daggered to protect marcel from him......

its the way the writers knew what they were doing with that line bc it how it blew up

crusty fckers

anyways idk why the dog was piping up when he just recovered from the bite marcel had given him 5 years before...like do u want another

Kol: (to Marcel) You were never a Mikaelson, get over it Me:

[themoonandthedogstar]

Rebekah Mikaelson using ‘you raised him’ to justify her relationship with Marcel to Klaus is so ??? Like what was the thought process there genuinely

[cancerian-woman]

I would’ve loved to see Klaus and Marcel bond about something other than having abusive fathers. Which is another level for Marcel because his father wasn’t just abusive he was a slave master. Who owned his unnamed mother and most likely raped his mother. It was not written well and just used as a prop for Klaus more than it ever meant something to former slave Marcel.

Elijah and Marcel shared music… what did he and Klaus have in common besides strength??

[anewkindofme]

Klaus hand feeding his 7 year old daughter beignets like a baby.

And you’re telling me he didn’t baby the hell out of Young!Marcellus?

A lot of the flashbacks we have of Marcel are sad ones, but we know there are good moments. Like Klaus telling him to close his eyes and sing when he was frightened. And there are so many moments they tell us but they don’t show.

It wasn’t all bad. Klaus wasn’t a perfect father. But I think his biggest flaw as one was his possessiveness over Marcel. He didn’t know how to let go.

Why couldn’t this show have been about he actual family?

Like in the pilot when Marcel was so happy to see him??

[ladybossrp]

@klausia12 🥺

┅ Klaus sired Marcel. I'm aware.

You don't understand. Marcel is not just some guy that Klaus turned into a vampire. Klaus loved him like a son.

KLAUS x MARCEL - THE ORIGINALS

[andreal831]

If Marcel had wanted to live a human life, do you think Klaus would have accepted it or would he have tried to turn him? (Because an immortal narcissist with abandonment issues is the world worst’s person to adopt a human that wanted to stay human)

Absolutely not.

You nailed it. Klaus not only wouldn't be able to raise someone and watch them die, but he wouldn't be able to handle losing that control. Klaus loved holding vampirism over Marcel. Not because he wasn't going to eventually give it to him, but because he loved the power it gave him. He knew none of his siblings would go behind his back and turn Marcel. It allowed him to have the ultimate power. Marcel was clearly raised to want to be a vampire. He betrays Rebekah in order to be turned. Klaus made sure Marcel wanted to be just like him because he needed Marcel to admire him.

But if Marcel had rebelled and decided he wanted to stay human, Klaus would not only worry about losing Marcel, but he would lose his power over Marcel. We saw how he acted when Marcel decided to fight in the war. Klaus flew across the world to try and convince Marcel to come back. It's not that he feared him dying, he was already a vampire. He didn't like Marcel being out of his control. Or even how completely went off the rails when Elijah erased his memories because Elijah was "unsafe." He would like go off the rails fearing for Marcel and feeling out of control. He likely would pull a Damon and just force Marcel to turn against his will.

I agree, Klaus had no business adopting a kid. He never once put Marcel's needs first because he never even once tried to understand what Marcel needed.

Thanks for the ask!

[transfagore]

Klarcel it's like hookfire but more incest-y

[hyperactivewhore]

while obviously racism plays the biggest role in the differences between klope and klarcel, for klaus i’d say that gender plays a larger role than blood ties in comparison to elijah/rebekah/freya/kol.

i believe that klaus is fully capable and willing to love marcel as a genuine child of his despite him being adopted but hope being a girl makes him love her a bit more because he “gets” to protect her rather than feeling like he has to compete with her like he did with marcel. i mean hope as a full tribrid is stronger than klaus (bc magic) but i can’t see him having the same reaction to that as he did with upgraded!marcel

Oh, completely! A clear example of this is how he behaves with Rebekah and Elijah: he isn't nearly as protective or jealous over his brother as he is with his sister.

A lot of his issues with Marcel come from the fact that he never told him he was alive, and also that he made New Orleans the city it is today. Klaus met Marcel when he was already a child, when Marcel had already the memories of his biological father engraved in his brain: like him, Marcel was abused and that is the reason he even adopted him. I believe Klaus himself or some of his siblings said it, but he adopted Marcel because he saw himself in him.

Klaus loved the kid, that much was clear. He even got jealous of Elijah spending time with Marcel, going as far as to undagger Kol but daggering him again the moment he saw his brother was a danger to the kid he loved as his son. Klaus was actually jealous and possessive over Marcel's affections towards Rebekah too, just like he would have been with Landon and Hope. He daggered his sister because in his words "she needs a lesson on what she can and cannot take from me" or something similar. Like what happened with Hope and Hayley initially, he did not want to share his son with his sister.

Klaus was deeply hurt by Marcel's "death" too, and in 1x11 he said "I thought you were dead. It was years before I could speak your name, so keenly did I feel that los" so I completely think he wouldn't be able to actually kill Marcel at all, despite all his threats, and the same goes for him and etc.

Gender plays a big role in all of Klaus’s relationships. When killing any of Rebekah's lovers, Klaus then would proceed to verbally harass her, making her feel stupid and small and all kind of things, and he did the same to Freya with Keelin, who quickly called him out on his bullshit. He never did this to his brothers, only to his sisters.

In my opinion, Marcel holds the same value as Hope does in Klaus’s life. He just couldn't show it, because there was a lot of bad blood between them and also because he was a man.