#Kaos Astyanax
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sure i didnt have enough sad feelings about the tragic fate of astyanax of troy already why dont you add some more why dont you give him to me grown up and in love and loved just to brutally kill him as a rebel ten minutes later really why not
#why do i keep not seeing these shots to the hearth coming why why#i am never forgiving them for this#kaos writers when i say watch your back#kaos netflix#kaos#kaos netflix spoilers#kaos spoilers#astyanax#astyanax of troy#kaos astyanax#kaos nax
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There is something obscenely on brand about scrolling through the character tag for a minor character and seeing this:
I’m the top blog on the tag.
#yikes#I can’t decide whether this is embarrassing or iconic#both tbh#kaos#kaos netflix#kaos series#kaos show#nax#kaos nax#Kaos Astyanax
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Couples in Kaos (Netflix, 2024-?).
#kaos#kaos netflix#netflix kaos#greek mythology#orpheus x eurydice#orpheus and eurydice#hera x zeus#zeus x hera#riddy x caeneus#caeneus x riddy#caeneus x eurydice#pseidon x hera#prometheus x charon#hades and persephone#hades x persephone#queer#queer representation#theseus x astyanax#theseus x nax
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Okay one of the many things I really like about Kaos.
(Spoilers below!)
Ariadne wants to fuck Theseus. But when she finds out he's with Nax, it's no more of a big drama than if she'd found out he was with a woman. She has a clear moment of "...oh" and she's cold with him afterwards, but that's clearly as much about the betrayal and setup as it is about her thwarted libido, though that does seem to factor into why she's hurt.
People are just allowed to be gay, without comment or judgement.
And they're also allowed to be trans. There is *no* discussion of Riddy fucking Caeneus, in the context of him being trans. *None.* No hand-wringing about what it means for Riddy's sexuality. Nothing but acceptance of who he is. We are given no more reason to believe Riddy is anything other than straight after they've had sex. (There's no particular confirmation that she's straight either, but then again there usually isn't.)
That's another nice thing - the story doesn't make Caeneus's gender about his partner or her orientation. Caeneus's gender and transition are about *him*.
I'm a gay (...iiiiish) trans man and I absolutely love this.
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I think another thing that goes against Kaos as a show isn’t the writing itself but Netflix being Hellbent on making tv shows shorter and like “really long movies” where the story isn’t episodic even tho it’s cut into episodes therefore the pacing is so confusing to the point that an entire side plot isn’t brought up for a whole episode or two.
Not to mention that it makes the character interactions bare bones and bland, if you want to write relationships that aren’t canon in mythology, fine, whatever, just give me good reason to care about this couple. Supergiant’s Hades (for all its flaws) succeeds at this.
We are supposed to be sad about Prometheus and Charon separating but we literally see them as a couple for like what? Five minutes? The show doesn’t give us enough time to gaf about their relationship other than it’s “good representation” to have two old men in a relationship.
Eurydice and Caeneus have known each other for what couldn’t be more than a couple of days then see the Nothing and have their entire world view shattered then they fall in love and have sex? Only for Orpheus to be going through hell and back trying to get his wife back so how tf are we supposed to be invested in Eurydice cheating? Again the show doesn’t give us good reason to care for this couple other than its good representation.
Bruh don’t even get me started on Theseus and Astyanax, that’s the most bare bones of them all, I didn’t even catch that they were a couple until they had sex. Theseus has more screen time and chemistry with Ariadne than his supposed lover. Also stop trying to make good guy Theseus happen, it’s not going to happen.
The only fanon relationship that makes logical sense (as in within the story but as an adaptation it’s dog shit and I hate it) is Hera and Poseidon, they actually get multiple scenes and dialogue together so even if you are like me and hate to see them as a couple, it still makes logical sense for them as characters to like each other, but only if you don’t think of them as an adaptation.
#I need to stop complaining about this show fuck#ppl praising this as a ‘good’ queer show pls raise your standards#let Theseus fuck Pirithous for fucks sack#greek mythology#ancient greek mythology#greek pantheon#greek goddess#hera#hera goddess#hera greek mythology#hera deity#zeus#zeus greek mythology#Poseidon#poseidon greek mythology#Prometheus#Charon#orpheus and eurydice#Caeneus#Kaos#kaos netflix#Netflix Kaos#Theseus#astyanax#Ariadne#Orpheus#eurydice
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I loooove kaos because it's such a great tragedy in the sense that all of the characters destined to die from their myths struggle and fight and bite to stay alive but they still end up dead.
I HATE KAOS BECAUSE WHAT THE FUCK ASTYANAX WAS SAFE OH MY GOD WHY DID YOU HAVE TO DO HIM DIRTY LIKE THAT HOLY SHIT
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im guilty as charged i like kaos but i still hate lore olympus but at least with kaos its better written. yes as a greek mythos nerd i point out the inaccuracy because i can, it doesn't mean i don't like the show i really do i think they were cooking with dionysus being (I'm adding a label bc it helps a bit) pansexual but idk if they were cooking with theseus and Astyanax being lovers but they were DEF cooking with caeneus being played by a trans man
#kaos#lgbtq#transgender#greek mythology#kaos netflix#kaos spoilers#kaos show#kaos series#netflix kaos#dionysus kaos#caeneus#astyanax
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Nax and Theseus were just celebrating being saved and then the people who gave them mercy just took it back and ripped Nax out of Theseus’ arms
I’m sobbing rn
I’ve never liked Posideon and this makes that dislike for him so much deeper
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do we know why the Trojans all have a nose tattoo? is that a throwback to Homer? a historical reference? just a random way to distinguish them?
#kaos#kaos netflix#cassandra kaos#astyanax kaos#Troy#trojans kaos#the whole trojan storyline is so tragic#intriguing#i want to know more
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Kaos spoilers!
First, the show is so good and I'm pissed that Neflix cancelled it.
Second, I thought it was mostly a comedy show and I didn't imagine crying at Andromache and her son reunion and Nax and Theseus intimate moment to Andromache sobbing to the salvaged body of her son and the other Trojans.
Please, give Andromache and Hecuba some rest ;-;
#kaos#andromache#astyanax#also all the tragedy of ariadne and the death of her brother#i have so many to say about this show and their refreshing take on greek mythology
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today, followers, i bring you deeply self-indulgent kaos fic. tomorrow, who knows?
#kaos#kaos netflix#caeneus#astyanax#kaos show#lulu speaks#lulu watches things#lulu watches kaos#my fanfic#complete at 2 chapters
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Astyanax, who survived, all grown up and carrying his father's helm
disclaimer: im not at all an artist, i try to draw sometimes when i get possessed by images or ideas that refuse to leave. hence the disproportionate-ness lol
#he lives he lives he lives#well#he doesnt even have feet but now he's real on paper and maybe the spirits will let me do work#this was mostly sparked by kaos (netflix) taking an idea i'd had for a while and making it impossible to ignore#i drew better when i was 14 i think lol but its good#astyanax survives#astyanax#astyanax of troy#kaos netflix#kaos#the iliad#ah this has almost zero (0) to do with#epic the musical#almost#he def wasnt saved by odysseus in my head lol#but the core idea stays i guess#greek myth#greek mythology
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I’m fighting the urge to make a poly fic between Ari/Theseus/Nax bc Theseus has two hands and also Ari needs some influence to change the world. (I’ve watched four episodes of Kaos on Netflix and I love it) ((I’ll check back later to see how disastrous this idea may be)) (((I am not afraid to diverge canon so fucking much)))
*edit literally point .2 seconds later Nax is fucking dead. I’m gonna diverge canon so badly. (Plot twist they meet five years early and shit happens)
#kaos#sapphic_terror#fanfic#polyamory#it really would solve so many problems#what if they all just cuddled in the same bed#annalise nathan and gabriel vibes#somebody take away my computer im fighting the urge to make a romcom#ariadne#Theseus#astyanax
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when I say fable applies to theseus and nax will I be thrown from the walls of my city?
"love was the law, religion was taught" literally fits them to a T
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i refused to be called out by someone who hasn't even read the iliad :)
callout post for @libraryleopard who has been hanging around being sad about astyanax from the illiad ever since he briefly turned up in the episode of kaos that we watched last night
#let ye who reads the scene with hector's helmet and astyanax and does NOT feel emotional cast the first stone#and such#pie tag#lulu speaks#kaos#lulu watches kaos#no hector in that show tho he is dead rip
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I think what upsets me most about Kaos’s “fuck the gods” narrative is that it actually reduces the mortals agency rather than the other way around, yes Zeus planned for the Trojan war to happen but the Greeks and Trojans had free will, they chose what to do, they can chose to be cruel or merciful. Yes the gods can coerce or persuade them but they make the decisions, when the Greeks committed too many war crimes the gods either killed them or made their journey more difficult.
So it makes no sense that the Trojans hate the gods, we see multiple instances of Trojans worshiping them and gods helping them after the sack of Troy, if you want to show us angry vengeful Trojans (which I would love) have the Trojans taking revenge on the Greeks, have Astyanax and Andromache hunt down and kill Odysseus and Neoptolemus.
#greek mythology#ancient greek mythology#greek pantheon#kaos netflix#netflix kaos#Netflix#Trojan war#Troy#Zeus#astyanax#andromache of troy#Andromache#Hecuba#Trojans#Odysseus#neoptolemus
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