#Joan d' Arc
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What's the story of Joan d' Arc from an atheist's perspective?
I'm still deconstructing religion and her story still holds a place in my heart for some reason
Neurological disorder or mental illness.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joan_of_Arc
Modern scholars have discussed possible neurological and psychiatric causes for her visions. Her visions have been described as hallucinations arising from epilepsy or a temporal lobe tuberculoma. Others have implicated ergot poisoning, schizophrenia, delusional disorder, or creative psychopathy induced by her early childhood rearing. One of the Promoters of the Faith at her 1903 canonization trial argued that her visions may have been manifestations of hysteria. Other scholars argue that Joan created some of the visions' specific details in response to the demands of the interrogators at her trial.
Keep in mind that we don't have to be able to explain her "visions" in order to reject the "explanation" that she was in telepathic communication with a magical space wizard who invented the universe with a magic spell. Or even believe that she had these "visions" at all. We don't have to "disprove" what has not been proven. And the "visions" and their purported supernatural origin are not established, evidence-based fact.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joan_of_Arc
Many of these explanations have been challenged; the trial records designed to demonstrate that Joan was guilty of heresy are unlikely to provide the objective descriptions of symptoms needed to support a medical diagnosis.
It's true that we can't reliably diagnose her from the trial records. Mostly because people were more ignorant back then and didn't collect the evidence or data which would enable us to use our better knowledge to explain it. But that's not our fault.
But it's also the same reason we can't conclude telepathy with a magical space wizard. What are the "objective descriptions of phenomena needed to support a supernatural explanation"? What are they? And why do medical diagnoses need objective facts, but not claims of supernatural magic?
We can simply ask ourselves, which is more likely: neurological disorder/mental illness, or telepathic communication with a magical space wizard? We know neurological disorders and mental illnesses are real, we have good evidence they exist, even if we don't have conclusive evidence that she had one. We don't have any evidence of a magical space wizard, so the medical diagnosis already has a massive leg up on the supernatural magical explanation.
It's worth noting that the people who reject these more mundane medical explanations for Joan are the same ones who will reject Muhammad's divine communications with Allah, on the basis of it being more likely temporal lobe epilepsy, schizophrenia or regular old fraud. And even reject that "god" told Kenneth Copeland to assemble a fleet of private jets, on the basis of him being an unrelenting, inveterate con artist.
So, in the defenders of this mythology, what you have is inconsistent skeptics who decline to accept similar claims on equally questionable grounds.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joan_of_Arc
Joan's firm belief in the divinity of her visions strengthened her confidence, enabled her to trust herself, and gave her hope during her capture and trial.
Dumbo's feather strengthened his confidence, enabled him to trust himself and gave him hope. This paragraph is embarrassing, not to mention completely useless.
What this is doing is retreating from "this belief is true" to "this belief is useful." We have to ask ourselves whether what we're interested in is what's true, or what's useful.
A popular retort from the faithful is something along the lines of, why would she allow herself to be burned to death if it wasn't true? You've heard this before in regard to the "persecution" of the early Xians. This is, of course, only a measure of fanaticism, not truth. Islamic terrorists are so sure they're willing to blow themselves up, yet this holds no weight with Xians as far as whether Islam is true.
It's a real shame "god" didn't help her escape her captors as he did the Israelites, though. Him untying her, parting the flames and levitating her to safety would have been an even more compelling demonstration of "god's will" than the predictable outcome of a person being burned to death. But instead, he went, "nah, I'mma be mysterious."
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vampimull3t · 5 months ago
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SAME FUCKING PICTURE
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nukbody · 5 months ago
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You`d have to stop the world just to stop the feeling
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a-spacecadet · 7 months ago
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✨ Morning Routine ✨
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The girls also had a sleepover and also woke up ✨beautiful✨ ✨flawless✨ and ✨gorgeous✨
Companion piece to my other drawing of the boys~
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mttonex · 8 months ago
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the rest of Joanfucius Week!!!! :3
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I love how day 7 turned out 😸
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bonus day I did not try at all I'm sorry 💀
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(once again created by @nessie-bessie !!!!)
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like-red-lads · 6 months ago
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We have had so many great antagonist in hi3, but I think we can all agree that Vita tops in this one
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paladin-tourney · 1 year ago
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Round 1, Side B - Wellan (The Knights of Emerald) vs. Jeanne d'Arc (real life, France)
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Propaganda:
Wellan (The Knights of Emerald)
No propaganda submitted.
Jeanne d'Arc (real life, France)
They were visited by archangels with divine visitations, guiding them into battle, for which they were martyred. Non-fictional, but the archetypal paladin.
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nerdyhistoryfangirl · 1 month ago
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January 03
1431: Joan of Arc is handed over to Bishop Pierre Cauchon for a price of 10,000 francs.
1749: Benning Wentworth issues the first of the New Hampshire Grants, leading to the establishment of Vermont.
1777: The Battle of Princeton (New Jersey) was fought during the American Revolution; the clash, along with the Battle of Trenton, marked the first victory for the Revolutionary War general George Washington in the open field.
1842: Charles Dickens and his wife Catherine leave Liverpool, England for America on board the RMS Britannia.
1938: U.S. President Franklin D. Roosevelt established the National Foundation of Infantile Paralysis (later called the March of Dimes) to find a cure for polio, a disease he had been stricken with in 1921.
1959: Alaska became the 49th U.S. state.
2001: Hilary Clinton was sworn in as a U.S. Senator from New York, having become the first first lady in U.S. history to win elective office.
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neutrallyobsessed · 10 months ago
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an assortment of joanpher ;)
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nyctibiius · 7 months ago
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she’s everything <3
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he’s just ken </3
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veldian · 1 year ago
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super super super excited that my order from @ultrainfinitepit came in; which means my collection of belos pins is growing steadily larger :33 the blue metal on all-seeing saint pops even better in person
im also very pumped that the stickers are so shiny and vibrant, as well as how the print turned out!!! absolutely worth the money and wait :D
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demolitionsoup · 10 months ago
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every once in a while you just look at joan of arc and you realize that maybe they're really really the coolest historic figure . she talked with god- and god said to not be afraid- but she wasn't; she fought for her country, and heard the angels. she was a girl, in 1400. she fought without hesitations just to be burned alive by the ones who she saved, but she didn't stop believing. she was born as s sacrifice. even fucking jesus christ, "the embodiment of god, the incarnation of the creator of this world came down, and was an atheist for a moment- Hozier" , saying, when left alone on the cross; "my god, my god, why hast thou forsaken me? -Mattew". i'm not ever religious, but-god, god, joan d'arc.
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a-spacecadet · 6 months ago
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✨🧬~ Another reminder that my keychains are now in stock ~🧬✨
Please, if you requested for one in my poll, don’t hesitate to get yours now, as I only have limited inventory! I have irl events coming up and I would love to sell them (and also gift them to friends who very enviously want them 😆) so make sure you claim your cute clone childrens now before they’re GONE!!
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dec0ra-grl · 2 months ago
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A bit of a continuation of my post about a celestial dragon helping to run the revolution….
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The actual painting I did. Her name is Rosa, we love Rosa here.
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mysterious-secret-garden · 2 years ago
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George William Joy (1844-1925) - ‘Jeanne d’ Arc.’, “Moderne Kunst”, 1902.
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murdleandmarot · 8 months ago
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I dunno why it's taken me this long to clock all the npmd mentions you've done that weren't even subtle girl(gender neutral) it's been weeks and it just did not enter my brain until now
Anyway
Do you have a Favourite lord in black and/or a Favourite nerd? (Mine are tinky and grace <3<3)
So I first saw this very early in the morning, and I very much misread it as you realizing that I was a girl (gender neutral), which I do think is very very funny anshdhdjf
I am also chuckling at the idea of me very obviously saying ‘Gee I sure do love Starkid’ and you just standing there like 🤔
Hi hello!!!! I do indeed love Starkid, and while npmd isn’t my faaaaaavorite of the hachetfield trilogy, (that honor goes to Black Friday, ily Black Friday), I do love the music and the characters, it’s definitely the most well produced in terms of its music. Very very cool
Ooooo the lord in black question is very difficult…..appearance-wise I’m gonna have to say Nibbly or Blinky. I really like eye motifs and eye imagery, so it’s a natural match.
As for Nibbly, he’s my favorite token™️ lord in black, for the costume and the aesthetic. Love him.
As for overall favorite, I’d have to go with Wiggly, surprisingly. This definitely has to do with my love of Black Friday, but he’s still my favorite overall villain from the trilogy, Jon Matteson’s voice acting is absolutely stellar, and his plush design is so so cool. I made little felt pins of the lord in blacks for Christmas for my friends, and wiggly actually turned out my favorite, he looked so cool. Maybe someday I’ll post some pictures of them lol.
GRACE CHASITY 🫶🫶🫶🫶🫶🫶🫶🫶🫶🫶
She’s SO fucking me fr, that’s just how I am, I love her from the depths of my heart, she’s utterly unhinged <333333
I hope to god that someday I can play her in a show, I’d do SO well. Alto Queens unite!!!!!
Angela’s line read of ‘so you do know the Bible’ has me under lock and KEY, she’s SO mental
As an asexual I’d marry her ily Grace Chasity you will forEVER be famous. Dirty Girl is iconic 😌😌
I’m not really active in the Starkid fandom bc cats obv, but also they scare me like a lot. And don’t seem that friendly 😰 one of them blocked me for my opinion on Ted that I apologized for later, and I agonized over it for a week before realizing that it literally wasn’t my fault lmaooo.
Also I do have some opinions that prolly wouldn’t go over well in there, (I had a lot of feelings about workin’ boys lol)
That being said, going through the tags on the Twisted vs Cats poll is my favorite pastime. It’s so fucking funny to me. The girls are fightinngggggg
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