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I do in fact believe that jeid could have been great if it happened in earlier seasons or if she wasn't MARRIED
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😂 oh, Jay bless your heart.
#that 90s show#that 90’s show#that ‘90s show#t9s#s2#2x01#jay kelso#leia forman#leia x jay#jay x leia#jeia
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That '90s Show - season 2 😊
Coming to a screen near you: June 27
#that 70s show#that '70s show#that 90s show#that '90s show#red and kitty#red x kitty#donna pinciotti#donna forman#eric forman#leia forman#jay kelso#jay and leia#jay x leia#jeia#gwen runck#gwen and leia#gwen x leia#geia#bob pinciotti#netflix#that 90s show news#t90s news
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How would you have written the Jay and Leia's first time storyline? You talked about how there was no emotional impact and it basically just fell flat, so how would you have handled it?
Hi! 😃
Within the context of T9S as it is, that's a tough question to answer. Jay and Leia's first time storyline fits the overall lighter, more superficial tone of T9S vs. T7S.
I would've rewritten Jay and Leia's whole storyline, tbh. I would've given both characters different core characterizations, particularly Jay. Leia's malaise and unhappiness at her Chicago life would remain the same; the cause for it would be deeper.
The foundation of their relationship would've built on depth rather than the superficiality of a Kelso clone who's capable of lasting growth and a Leia whose unhappiness is portrayed as significantly deeper than the reasons the show gives for it.
Like Eric/Donna and Jackie/Hyde before them in T7S, Jay and Leia would've connected with each other through finding solace from their woes in each other as well as joy.
Donna is Eric freedom from his (perceived and actual) suffocating and hyper-controlled home life. Eric is Donna's emotional stability and safety that she doesn't have at home.
Jackie is Hyde's challenger to face his fears of abandonment and his teacher that he's not unlovable. Hyde is Jackie's teacher that love isn't shiny presents and obedience but acts of love, like sacrificing what makes him happy to cheer her up, going to jail in her stead, becoming homeless (almost) to protect her reputation, and so much more.
Jay and Leia's relationship lacks depth because the characters do. As I've written previously, Jay in actuality would not be a Kelso clone with his upbringing by two ever-divorcing, ever-remarrying parents who are in a toxic relationship. He'd have a lot of emotional baggage and, hopefully, be a thoughtful kid rather than being a relatively carefree womanizer who overuses the word bro.
Leia is raised by two loving parents in a healthy relationship yet suffers from a sadness that is portrayed (intentionally or not) as mild depression. Finding joy and freedom in Point Place starts with her discovering Gwen, who is her real force of change. T9S would've needed Leia to stumble upon Jay, not Gwen, letting loose in his room to forge that bond.
Like Eric and Donna, their relationship would've begun platonically. Their first attraction to each other would be emotional, not aesthetic or sexual. In season 1, we would've seen their bond develop and grow, connecting Leia to Jay's friend group and -- perhaps -- causing some insecurity-jealousy-resentment from Jay's best friend, Nate. At the end of season 1, Jay and Leia's emotional bond has transformed into a romantic one, and they kiss.
In season 2, Part 1, Jay and Leia would navigate figuring out whether they want to "sacrifice" their friendship for a romance. Leia might be idealistic about it because of her parents' relationship while Jay is more cautious because his parents' relationship sucks. He'd rather keep a healthy friendship with Leia than risk a potentially toxic romance with her.
But with guidance from his friends and Red and Kitty, he realizes he and Leia don't have to be Jackie and Kelso or Eric and Donna. They can be Jay and Leia. Part 1 ends with Jay and Leia officiallybin a romantic relationship.
In season 2, Part 2, Leia is sex-positive and ready to have that connection with Jay. Jay, however, has witnessed how sex tears his family apart. He's afraid that having sex might turn him into his dad, and he'd never want to hurt Leia the way his dad hurts his mom. This would be a nice parallel and reversal of Eric and Donna's storyline in T7S.
Leia, and perhaps other characters, help Jay understand that he's nothing like his dad. He's not selfish or narcissistic. That he worries about hurting Leia proves this fact (as does so much more). Betsy, too, could've been used as an ally rather than an antagonistic. She and Jay could've bonded over and validated their dad's awfulness to their mothers.
Jay and Leia connecting sexually, having their first time, would be an affirmation of the freedom and joy they've found in each other. The actual act could've been awkward, although Donna prepared Leia how to make it less awkward. Sexually-experienced Nate could've given Jay good advice: 1) jerking off earlier in the day so that he'd last longer with Leia and 2) all about foreplay being important (although it might've been an hilarious callback to T7S had Kitty told him this information).
The scene itself, with all the emotional build up of season 1 through much of season 2, would've allowed for Jay and Leia's first time to have a similar emotional impact for the audience as Eric and Donna's.
In the aftermath, Leia is blissful and shares TMI with her friends. Jay, though, is happy but anxious. He still thinks he's got a ticking time bomb of his dad's infidelity in him. So he proposes he and Leia not have sex again for a while. In his mind, this will prove he doesn't need sex to be happy.
Leia: You mean like a week?
Jay: More like a month, maybe two. Three at the most.
Leia: I might be in Chicago or California by then if my mom doesn't let me stay in Point Place.
To Leia's mind, she thinks Jay hated having sex with her.
This conflict is resolved swiftly, however (in an episode). Jay admits enthusiastically that he loved having sex with Leia. He felt super close to her. He's just afraid he'll sleep with another girl.
Leia: Do you was to sleep with another girl?
Jay: No! But what if it's instinct, like salmon returning to where they were born to spawn?
Leia grasps his shoulders gently and kisses him. Afterward, she says, "Were you thinking another girl then?"
Jay: I wasn't thinking at all! I just --
Jay kisses Leia back, passionately. This leads to them making love again.
As they hold each other in bed, Leia says, "Still scared?"
Jay: Of what?
Leia: Cheating on me with other girls.
Jay (deadpan): What is cheating? Or other girls? I don't understand these alien concepts.
He and Leia grin at each other then make out.
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The deeper the characters, the deeper the storylines. T9S's writing isn't deep. It's easy. It's funny but nowhere near as funny as T7S because -- at its best -- T7S's humor rose organically from the deeper characters and their deeper storylines.
T9S is another case of having a great opportunity, a great cast, and squandering it by writing toward the middle to satisfy nostalgic T7S fans and appeal to new ones. T7S didn't have the pressure of being a sequel to another show. Its creators were free to be fully original.
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Jay & Leia in Parts 2 & 3 That '90s Show [2023 - 2024] Requested by @piperslovebot
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The only thing that makes shipping a non-canon/non-endgame ship less painful is writing and reading fic
#zenmasters#gwikki#jeia#stelena#forwood#Bamon#klonnie#kennett#bonkai#stefonnie#jyler#tykat#tybekah#ronance#faberry#pezberry#Baroline#bonbekah#swarkles#forkhart
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Golden Retriever X Black Cat >>>>
The fact that all of these ships are slow burn as well 🥲
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i just love how jay and leia are totally completely obsessed with each other and always act as a team :’) they are so ericdonna :’)
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Jeia is what Rucas wanted to be
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Jeia's going to be endgame
Based off the trailer I highly doubt Neia will be together. Which sucks. The writers practically dangled a carrot in front of our face. Unless the show goes on and they treat Neia as a slow burn. But I just don't see it.
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“Stay out of my moment!”
#😂 jays face#leia forman#jay kelso#jay x leia#leia x jay#jeia#t9s#that 90s show#that 90’s show#that ‘90s show#s2#2x06
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That ‘90s Show Part 3 - My Thoughts
Real life was real life’in this week 😅, so I’m just now able to share my thoughts re: the newest That ‘90s Show episodes.
Overall, another wonderful installment! The actors have definitely settled into their characters, and I’m invested in their storylines and relationships (beyond just Eric, Donna, and Leia). Reception to part 3 so far seems very positive. I’m going to remain hopeful it will get another season!
More thoughts beneath the cut:
It’s sort of stream of consciousness rambling, lol.
-Leia, my love. The wrestling storyline in episode 1 was funny. I loved seeing Leia’s persuasive, edgy side come out when she secured the autograph, much like back in the pilot when she got the tap from Mama. She’s really come into her own as a character this season.
-So much appreciation for the Doug Funnie and Porkchop cameos! 😆 As a child of the ‘90s, Doug was one of my favorite cartoons! And Red and Kitty’s Beanie Babies plot was… strange, lol, but funny. And it was nice to see them in cahoots. I knew Beanie Babies were going to make an appearance at some point, because they’re such a quintessentially ’90s thing. Remember how they gave away mini ones at McDonald’s for a while, and people went nuts? It was a strange time.
-Okay, the scene at the kitchen table with Red, Kitty, Leia and Donna after she broke the shower head genuinely had me cackling. And Donna gets another gold star mom award for the way she talked to Leia about it afterwards. I love how good of a mom she is. Hits me right in my feels. 🥹
-Jay and Leia… okay, probably an unpopular opinion but I just feel so lukewarm about them! 🤷🏼♀️ I don’t dislike them, I don’t ship them, they’re fine, I just don’t feel emotionally connected to them. Their first time didn’t elicit any big feelings or emotions from me. Their cliffhanger at the end - meh, I don’t really care if they stay together or break up. I remain more interested in seeing Leia explore other relationships - with Gwen or Nate, for instance - but she didn’t have many storylines apart from those with Jay or her family this time. Maybe it was foreshadowing to have Leia admit she expects to have a life long love like her parents do, and her friends reminding her that’s not realistic at all…
-Betsy! She reminds me of Brooke a bit and also Laurie, but mostly feels like her own character. Her relationship with Nate also reminds me of Kelso/Brooke’s relationship and Kelso/Laurie’s, in turns. She is much smarter than him but seems bemused and oddly charmed by the simple Nate, ala Brooke. And she’s manipulative, dominant, and sex-positive, ala Laurie. The scene where Nate tried to break up with her and she said no (😂) literally mirrors the Kelso and Laurie one from T70S. I definitely believed her as a Kelso, but you can tell she has intelligence her brother does not (thanks, Brooke) and seems serious about college/school in addition to having sex. A good mix of her parents, overall, and I enjoyed seeing her interactions with Jay and all the Kelso family lore we learned about this season!
-Kelso family lore: Jay and Betsy’s quibble - “Dad stayed with MY mom!” shows some underlying resentment/competition between the siblings, and also reveals that Kelso and Jackie took a 3 year break at some point (which we already kind of knew, due to their multiple remarriages) during which Kelso went back to Brooke (unclear)? Jay’s line about the time the entire Kelso family went to therapy for 20 minutes and the therapist told them they’re all afraid to love themselves was interesting, too.
-Okay, it was actually very sweet how Kitty found Isaac for Ozzie. I’ve enjoyed his arc this season: his heartbreak over Etienne, finding a queer community, his horror over being the last virgin *lol*, and now his blossoming relationship with Isaac. He seems more confident about himself and his sexuality than ever before. And his dry sense of humor always makes me laugh.
-We got to meet Gwen’s dad! I enjoyed him, his backstory, and his interactions with both Sherri and Gwen. Hoping we might see him again. Also, this shuts down the ‘Hyde is Gwen’s dad’ theories for good.
-The Jay and (Not So) Silent Bob schtick is so-so to me, but I did laugh at how they were following ‘their kids’ Ozzie and Isaac at the movies 😂.
-We got some good Eric nuggets! Starting with Eric and Donna being the same height in their wedding pictures - which I would cut my pinky finger off to see, btw. He lands his dream job working with George Lucas on Skywalker Ranch (I looked it up, and yes it’s a real place) and writing a book about the new Star Wars movies. Gets him out of the picture more permanently, but still leaves the door open for him to visit/return for a holiday episode or something. Loved Donna’s conversation with him on the phone, and imagining her helping him get settled out in California and visiting. And then Kitty’s comment about Donna drooling on his chest when they sleep - 🥹. My favorite detail yet.
-(Did anybody else think of the scene in T70S where Eric and Donna were discussing going to premarital counseling and Donna said they’d learn things about each other, like for instance what if one day she gets a high paying job in California - will he move? And then Eric is like ‘Whoa, why can’t I be the one to get the high paying job?’)
-Oh my god, I loved the ending sequence of them all in the car, dressed like the T70S characters and imitating the opening credits. Loved, loved, LOVED. When Leia put her hands on the dashboard like Donna, I think my shipper heart exploded. 🥰
-Donna and Bob’s moment on the car was very sweet (as was Bob reminiscing over Midge - this feels like confirmation that she’s passed away in-universe). I also thought it was poignant how Donna realizes (and values) both Eric and Leia’s happiness and doesn’t want to take that away, yet feels lost herself and is thus having difficulty making this decision. And then ultimately, she decides to just go back and forth between her two favorite people. 🥰
-The Clueless fantasy!!!!! Yes. So much yes. (I really enjoyed all of the ‘90s references this season)
-Wow. Sherri really is a Laurie clone (*cough* replacement *cough*). The fact that she’s done it with everyone - including the judge at Kitty’s court hearing. She’s earnest and often well meaning, but trips over her words and her relationships. Red and Kitty have so much to teach her. It’s a very parental relationship. Really makes you think about what could have been…
-This season made me such a NikNate shipper. I was kind of starting to come around to them after part 2, but their arc at the end where Nate believes in her musical talent and sells his van to buy back her guitar really got me. Nate is really winning me over, in general. #OTP: You’ll Always Be My Baby
-Ooh, that cliffhanger! Will Donna let Leia stay in Point Place now? Will she have to go to Our Lady Of Perpetual Sorrow? Will Leia forgive Jay for stealing her grandma’s keys? Stay tuned to find out! 😁
#that 90s show#that ‘90s show#T90S#part 3#that 70s show#that '70s show#eric and donna#eric x donna#niknate#jeia#donna pinciotti#donna forman#eric forman#leia forman#gwen runck#nate runck#jay kelso#nikki velasco#ozzie takada#red forman#kitty forman#my essays
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Do you have any Jeia and Gwikki headcanons?
Hi there, Poorni! I really hope you like this a lot!
Jeia [Jay x Leia]'s Headcanons
Leia loves watching the Muppet Show and Jay loves watching her happiness over the Muppet characters especially with Fozzie Bear, her favorite Muppet character.
Jay loves the old classic movies like The Godfather and Ghostbusters; Leia always watches those movies with Jay even though she doesn't like violence and guns in the movies because she loves his happiness and passion for those movies.
Leia and Jay always share a blanket together and their blanket is a dark blue color with the silver stars sewed into the blanket so that it reminds them of their nature dates when they look at the stars together.
Gwikki [Gwen x Nikki]'s Headcanons
Nikki loves watching The Princess Dairies movies and Gwen might not like the movies because it represents changing your natural curls to fit within the society, but she loves Nikki and tolerates the movies only for her.
Gwen loves watching Scream and American Psycho because she prefers horror movies than romantic movies; Even though Nikki hates those movies because they terrify her a lot; she tolerates them for Gwen because she loves those type of movies and Nikki loves seeing Gwen happy a lot.
Gwen and Nikki always share a blanket together and their blanket is cheetah printed with purple hearts sewed into the blanket to remind them of their first day hanging out together as friends.
#t9s#t9s headcanons#disneymbti#jeia#jeia headcanons#jay x leia#leia x jay#gwikki#gwikki headcanons#gwen x nikki#nikki x gwen
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Jay & Leia [That '90s Show] Requested by @hydesjackiespuddinpop
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Jay & Leia mourning each other
Ty @randomwriter23 for mentioning this!
(Tagging @yenalii b/c she’s the jeia queen duh)
#that 90s show#that '90s show#otp: i'm not ready to give up on us#parallels#jeia#jay x leia#leia x jay#jay and leia#leia and jay#het ship#t90sedit#hoping for this whole ordeal to be resolved so i can stop being mad at leia#jeiashippersclub#season 2 teaser trailer#episode: the birthday girl
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If It's gonna happen. I want it to just happen. And I want it to be amazing.
Lip Smackers (Season 1, Episode 3)
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