#Jecki deserves better

[jiminysjournal]

Okay, if that ending’s not setting up Checkhov’s Force Healing, I’m gonna be VERY, VERY DISAPPOINTED.

[jinprint]

"was that its name?"

rewatching the acolyte (well, parts of it) and i am currently obsessed with reading into the dialogue with a slightly different perspective. like during jecki's death:

sol: jecki!

the stranger: was that its name?

sol: she was a child.

the stranger [shrugging]: you brought her here.

the first time i watched this scene, i totally thought qimir called jecki "it" at first just to be a dick. but it really speaks to the fact that qimir finds the jedi's values and philosophies to be inherently broken.

was jecki a soldier or a kid? pick one. was she a tool or a child? if she was the latter, why would you bring her here to hunt down a criminal that already killed two masters? obviously this is not a person who will hesitate to kill jedi.

you treated her it like a tool, and now you see the consequences of that unfold right before you; hence qimir makes a point of this. (also interesting to wonder how this could tie into his backstory with vernestra)

why would you bring a kid there? is it the enemy's fault when you choose to bring a child to the battlefield? is the enemy really responsible for her death, or you?

referring to jecki as "it" is, i think, a jab at the jedi for treating their padawan as tools, for choosing specific moments to humanize them or weaponize them (perhaps as his master did to him?) it's not because he didn't see her as a person—it's because he doesn't believe that the jedi truly did.

"the jedi live in a dream... an acolyte kills the dream."

but that's just my two cents.

[purple--queen]

jeckis dead was a bigger surprise then the reveal of qimir being the sith master.

[weregonnabecoolbeans]

I am very happy to see that jecki and yord weren’t just abandoned there and that the jedi did retrieve them

I didn’t appreciate having to watch what happened to them again in the recap though

[anoray]

After Episode 5 of The Acolyte

I'm acutely aware of two things:

If I had a nickel for every time my favorite SW character gets killed off, I'd have waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too many nickels. I could probably buy the franchise.

I would so make a lousy Jedi because right now I utterly hate and despise both Mae and the vile Sir Darth Grineous. (And how in the name of the Force can Master Sol not tell the twins switched places, they cannot possibly have the same energy).

[victorianightlight]

I love and miss her 🥺

Jecki + 1x04

[kcrabb88]

I think one of the things I've found most frustrating about sections of Star Wars fandom since being more active in it (rather than just being a Star Wars appreciator) is that some folks are constantly looking for a reason that the Jedi "caused" or worse "deserved" what was coming to them with Order 66. It's hard and horrible to watch the Jedi get slaughtered in Revenge of the Sith, so people search for a reason that it was, in some sense, justified. But that's not what genocide is. No group can "bring a genocide on themselves." It doesn't matter WHAT mistakes they may make. The whole point of the Clone Wars all the way down to destroying Jedha City in Rogue One was to wipe out not only the Jedi themselves, but the memory of them, so that the empire can fully take root.

And this is why the end of the Acolyte finale felt so so so bad to me. It was meant to be, or so I believed, a show about how the Sith were getting closer to their goal of getting rid of the Jedi as we close in on the century before The Phantom Menace. I sat there, I waited for the narrative intention to set in, and that narrative intention surprised me by saying "ah yes, well, some Jedi made mistakes and it was fine for one to be murdered HORRIBLY as a result, and the subsequent cover up of all of it is just the Jedi wanting to avoid senate knowledge of what really happened because the Jedi are too powerful." It's like, nevermind that the SENATE is the power here, and the Jedi long-ago agreed to help them out but are being shouldered with more and more and more and they may have the Force but they are still only people (which the High Republic books show REALLY well). It's like, nevermind that Star Wars is about redemption and always trying to be a better person and learning from our mistakes! It wasn't a situation, when Osha kills Sol in a nasty and cruel way, where you see a person going corrupt and know the narrative behind it is like "oh shit, this is a bad turn for them!" It felt like the narrative was saying she was justified (at least to me) and that's just. Sad? Bleak? The end of the finale felt to me like "hey, some Jedi made some mistakes while trying their best once, and that's why these Sith get to do whatever and that's why the Jedi walked right into their own demise."

When the scene with the senator happened, I thought, oh, interesting, we're going to see the prejudice against Force-sensitives here that leads to the senate clapping in the face of genocide. That leads to the safehouse in Kenobi where we see Force-sensitives carving messages of hope into the wall while they're being hunted down and killed. But that's ... not what happened. In the end, it felt like the narrative said, "yep that guy is right, the Jedi are a power-grabbing cult." It just felt bad, man. I thought this was going to be a story about the lineage leading up to Plagueis and Palpatine and I thought, interesting, I'd love to see that, but it just ended up being this messy thing with clunky writing and a bunch of loose ends that teased me with Jedi characters and then said "eh, these guys deserved it."

We got to see a kyber crystal bleeding for the first time in live action, and I can't even be excited about it! Did we ever really find out how Osha and Mae were created and what weird stuff the witches were up to? Nope! Just woah disappointing as far as even learning new stuff about how the dark side corrupts the Force, and that was one thing I was interested in as the show started to go downhill for me in later episodes.

(RIP Sol, Jecki, and Yord. You deserved better than that, and Vernestra, so did you)

[shield-and-saber]

feeling insanely curious about the possibilities of sol's darkness.

a young boy, shy, perhaps feeling very lonely in the grand temple on coruscant but who feels very deeply about the people he cares for. who struggles with attachment because his heart is so inclined to connection and to familial bonds, to love

the boy becomes a padawan, then a knight, but he doesn't take on his own apprentice, not yet. perhaps the council decides he isn't ready yet. they sense the ways that his desire for connection are selfish, based in a deep-seated desire for attachment to an unhealthy level. the kind of attachment that leads to fear of loss, to greed and jealousy, and they decide he must wait. he must see the galaxy first, he must grow before he can become a teacher and master

a knight on brendok makes the greatest mistake of his life. 51 lives lost because of his selfishness and impulsivity. so he returns to coruscant with a new padawan (a daughter) and he decides never again. he decides to be better, to be everything that he was not on brendok so that no one ever dies because of him again. but he doesn't learn to let go of his attachments, only to ignore them. to pretend they aren't there

the knight becomes a master, the master becomes apprentice-less. a failure. he failed mae, and he failed osha, and he is so, so lonely. better take all that darkness, the shadows clouding your heart, and stuff them somewhere else. don't stop to feel the pain, just move on. be better

so the council grants him a new student, bright and brilliant like the sun, a child who adores him, idolizes him. she is sweet and smart and respects him far too much, and then she dies because he was blind to the evil that guided mae's hand. she dies because he failed

there is only one answer to this, right? for surely it isn't darkness when painted with the brush of justice? the sith deserves to die because indara, kelnacca, and torbin are dead. jecki is dead, yord is dead, because sol failed. this isn't darkness, it's the sweetened flavor of a jedi's revenge. but this, too, is another failure that tallies itself in the back of sol's mind

on the ship. broken. empty. unmoored. jecki is gone. his entire team is gone. the sith is gone, still alive because the girl who couldn't be a jedi told him not to kill in cold blood. and then, it turns out, that osha is gone too. so what is left for him but the depths of his despair? what is left for a man like sol when his daughters are missing or dead? what does it matter that mae (the daughter that might have been but never was) is restrained on a table, unable to enact her own revenge upon him, when he could simply explain himself? assuage his own guilt? beg for forgiveness?

sol has lurked in the shadows since nightfall on khofar. the darkness is coming back. after so many failures, there is only one thing for sol left to do and that is to save osha. one last time.

yeah, no wonder this guy is 50 shades of fucked up

[diresquid]

I finished The Acolyte and i noticed some things that really got me and made me go crazy over that I’ll share with you all cause why not

(Warning spoilers)

Ok first of all watching the finale for the second time made me realize even more things than I did the first time like how in the beginning osha said she had a vision of Mae holding a lightsaber but not using it with her hand outstretched killing Sol and originally I thought she meant when Mae is holding the saber and then throws it aside (and maybe I’m stupid for not realizing the first time)but then I realized that the vision is actually her killing Sol herself but she thought it was Mae and I thought that was really amazing

Also how she went to the planet to save sol but that was the very thing that led to his death ( which is also like almost an exact parallel of Anakin which is beautiful)

I thought it was really interesting how at the beginning both sisters are angry and struggling with what happened on Brendok and Mae chooses to hunt down and kill the Jedi as revenge and in anger and osha tries to bring Mae to justice but at the end when the whole truth comes out Mae refuses to kill Sol and wants him to be brought to justice and Osha is the one who kills him in cold blood out of anger which really shows how the sisters have switched places over the course of the show

(Which is mirrored by the way at the end it is Mae wearing Osha’s white clothes showing her turn to the light and justice while Osha wears Mae’s black clothes and gives into her anger)

Also I love how perfectly they set up her killing Sol like they specifically have her say that she failed at being a Jedi because she couldn’t control her negative emotions and couldn’t cope with what she’d lost and she was attacking Mae with clearly a lot of emotion and then when she finds out it was Sol and that he lied to her all this time she once again couldn’t control those emotions and ended up killing him even though he was her master and she went to the planet to save him

(Also adding on that they way she choked him as she was saying how much he loved her and the way he told her it was ok basically forgiving her as she was killing him I mean he obviously made a lot of mistakes but no one can deny how much he loved her which just makes his death so much sadder cause really everything he did was for her even if he was also somewhat selfish at times)

Another thing is just how on Brendok the Jedi blamed Mae both for Osha’s sake and to hide their own actions but it all came out later and really hurt them all but now Vernestra is doing the exact same thing which is probably going to send everything into a huge downward spiral

Alright a couple things to finish up

what is Plagueis doing there??? Honestly I don’t even want to know but that’s slightly scary for season two

Also can we all agree that Vernestra’s purple light whip is cool as hell? Cause I feel like it doesn’t get enough recognition

Alright last of all rip to my favorites Sol Jecki and Yord the three of them deserved better and I wish we got to see more of them (especially jecki and yord in that manner)

Alright sorry this post got really long and it’s honestly just my ramblings that no one needs to hear but you’re getting them anyway

Enjoy

[greenconvor]

Just finished watching the newest The Acolyte episode. To quote Jake Peralta:

What? No.

What??? No,

WHAT!? … NO!

*spoilers*

Why!? What was even the point!? Just to make me cry!?!? Do you want to see me cry???

I am a SENSITIVE SOUL!!! I get attached VERY EASILY; you have to WARN ME!!! ABOUT!!!! THESE THINGS!!!!!!!!!!

On the other hand, Qimir being the Sith was literally everything I wanted. The actor does amazing and I knew seeing that darker side of him would hit hard. I mean, the way he manipulated and egged on Sol. Perfection.

BUT NO. I spent half the episode going “Wake up, Osha. You’re dreaming. Wake up. WAKE UP.” Because you cannot give me an awesome Jecki fight scene where she pulls out two sabers and holds her own like the BAMF Padawan she is and Yord actually listening to Osha and turning around and then murder them IN FRONT OF ME.

THAT IS NOT OKAY. I AM NOT OKAY. SNFOFMSBFIFBDIXNsofbdndmddnskdb.

*sighs* I am finishing this to the end because I have thoroughly enjoyed this show BESIDES THE NEEDLESS MURDER OF TWO MAIN CHARACTERS and I understand that death is a part of life and we must all keep moving forward. And they have set up an intriguing twin switch.

But. I will not be watching anymore on Tuesday night and will require spoilers to prepare myself beforehand. Goodness, it is too late for this emotional rollercoaster.

OH YEAH, and they better go back and collect those bodies to give them the pyre funeral they deserve or I will RIOT. Metaphorically. Hopefully. -_-

[the-enby-jedi]

The Acolyte sucked so I’m going to rewrite it

That’s right, I’m gonna fix that steaming pile of banthashit. WHO’S WITH ME?!

IF THEY WONT GIVE THE CHARACTERS DEPTH AND NUANCE, I WILL. I WILL MAKE IT BETTER

DISNEY SHOULD HIRE ME

Okay spoilers under the cut for my plans

so sad because aesthetically, the show was breathtaking and amazing but great visuals can’t save writing that is more over the place than my first attempt at writing my novel which let me tell you, WAS ALSO TERRIBLE.

and yes, I am extremely fucking salty and I can’t wait for the Ahsoka series to be back so I finally get fun Star Wars and not rip my hair out have a bpd episode Star Wars.

We DON’T kill Sol off

We give Sol more depth and nuance because my man deserves it

Manny’s character also get’s more depth! Fuck it, a backstory too!

Sol will also have issues with the dark side and struggles to keep stable in the light side

we flesh out Osha and Mae’s past a bit.

I’m thinking we actually give Manny’s character a reason he’s this way other than “nobody understands me boohoo” because bub, nobody understands me either but I’m not gonna become a monster JUST because of that

anyways this episode made me so fucking upset that I shit you not it triggered my bpd and I split and was an asshole to my family when watching it. Now my mom is mad at me. Heck, I really should get a BPD diagnosis. Anyways I then sobbed in the bathroom because Sol was my favorite character. Sure,, losing Jecki and Yord sucked but not as sucky as Sol! I MEAN HE IS WHY I STUCK AROUND ON THE SERIES COME ON. Actually sobbed.

[leofromsomewhere]

my thoughts after binging star wars: the acolyte

this is your spoiler warning if you haven't seen it

jecki my beloved :((( why did they do that to you :((( i loved you so much :((( i was gonna make a lil oc to be your bff in jedi training but they went and killed you :(((

related: you don't get to murder my favorite child and then just go and be that hot

i hate him im so conflicted. i have never before experienced the blorbofication of a blorbo-killer

especially when the killed blorbo was a kid. like, yes all child murder is bad, but child blorbo murder is especially bad.

also, before he was revealed to be the sith lord, he had me convinced he was in love with mae, but there is something a little bit frightening and maybe a little predatory about how quickly he turned all his attention to osha and i am very interested to see what the good citizens of ao3 have to say about that

and vernestra, why you gotta do my man sol dirty like that? like i get why, but like, whyyy? he deserved better than that

last and least, i spent the whole show going "occupational safety and health administration? what are you doing here?" and i thought i was a comic genius for that. it was quite humorous that osha's job as a meknek was 100% not OSHA-compliant

[eggdrawsthings]

Just letting you know I'm healing through your Sol and Jecki AU btw. Thank you so much you're doing God's work they deserve so much better. Do you also write or plan to write that AU one day? I'd love to know more about it <3

Im so glad that so many ppl are also healing their relationship w this stupid show through my art, which I did out of spite and also to heal myself lol.

I unfortunately can't write for shit so all I can do is just draw little moments from that AU in my brain lol. I did answer an ask about that AU here. They are all tagged under #I wish you all the love in the world AU as well if you wanna find my older posts lol

[spectordameron]

a lot of the discussions around the acolyte feel very reductive and boring for me, particularly when it always boils down to that argument between mae and osha when they're children: "the jedi are good!" "the jedi are bad!" and how either of those perspectives mean the show is any good or not.

frankly, i love the jedi. love 'em, but i could not care less what the hell a story has to say about them if it's an interesting well-told story, and if it makes sense. the acolyte is an origin about a dark sider, of course it doesn't paint them across as great, but I also don't think making five jedi extremely flawed counts as the show saying "el em ah oh! yeah they all deserved to get got!" like girl check your reading comprehension for a min...

anyway, I think the most interesting thing about this show to me is how it's typically the Jedi who break the rules and act like they're above the council, that fuck up in drastic ways. Indara is the sole voice of reason, initially, on Brendok, wanting to only perform a wellness check and abide by the Council's decision of "no, they're fine, we're not messing with another culture because we respect their privacy and we're not taking two eight year olds from their mother" - a decision that Sol ignores, because of his own attachment. Torbin also ignores the Council's decision for his own benefit, in an effort to prove the vergence existed. and then of course, Vernestra - I'll admit, I haven't read any of the books with her in it, so I don't know anything abt her besides she's aroace and gifted kid burnout rep - is so focused on the Jedi's political enemies, that she decides to purposely act without the Council's knowledge, and later continue the cycle began by Indara and the others, by covering up what truly happened across the series.

The Brendok team's choices, and Vernestra's, by ignoring the Council and acting out on their own by believing they know what is best, winds up having drastic consequences and making the Sith stronger. By comparison, earlier in the season, we had Jecki and Yord, both of whom are described as by the book and "Jedi-Jedi" basically in various interviews/articles about the series, and I think honestly, they do embody the best things about the Order.

When confronted with the possibility that the person he grew up with, loved, was close friends with, potentially murdered another Jedi Yord likely knew and respected alongside Osha, and is given irrefutable evidence that Osha is guilty (seeing as he doesn't know Osha and Mae were twins) - he lets go of his personal feelings on the matter, and does what he believes is right. He doesn't let his feelings for Osha, or their bond, cloud his judgment. And even Jecki is presented routinely as level-headed, and her initial criticism of Sol lingering on the past and Osha is proven correct: Sol does struggle with attachment, and specifically attachment to Osha.

In my opinion, the show has a lot more to say about Jedi who think they're above the rules of the organization than it does the Jedi as a whole. A lot of what that Senator says is just condensed anti-Jedi rhetoric, certainly, but his statement about what happens if someone with that much power snaps and no one can stop them is simultaneously a wonderful bit of tragic foreshadowing of Anakin, and returns us back to the initial thesis that Aniseya gives the girls: this is about power, and who is allowed to wield it.

The (main) Jedi we view in this series, beyond Jecki and Yord and initially Indara, believe that they are above the rules. That they know better than the Council does, or the rules that are in place for a goddamned reason, because unchecked the Jedi could be extremely dangerous, that's what happens when you're basically demi-god levels of powerful.

And that belief gets a lot of people killed. Just like it will again, a hundred years from now.

[cross-d-a]

Fandom: Star Wars: The Acolyte, Star Wars - All Media Types

Chapter: 1/?

Rating: Teen

Category: Gen

Warnings: None

Relationships: Yord Fandar & Jecki Lon

Characters: Yord Fandar, Jecki Lon, Osha Aniseya, Master Sol, Tasi Lowa, Original Jedi Characters

Additional Tags: Yord Fandar-centric, Yord Fandar Deserves Better, Jecki Lon Deserves Better, HASTAG SIBLINGS FOR LIFE, Jedi as Found Family, Jedi Culture & Customs, Fluff, Minimal Angst (mostly), Jecki is a bit feral, Yord is more than a bit autistic, Jecki is most definitely queer, Yord might be too, Enemies to Friends

Summary:

Before there is Khofar and a terrible crimson blade bleedingwrithingburning between the shadows of haunted trees—

There is Jecki, and there is Yord, and all the years of friendship stretched in between.

Or: When Padawan Yord Fandar is assigned to work in the crèche, of all the things he was expecting to go wrong he never considered he’d get into an actual physical fight with a youngling half his size.

[salubriousbean]

The Acolyte episodes 5 & 6 thoughts

So I finally watched them and

HOLY KRIFF

H O L Y KRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIFFFF

Unorganized thoughts below (spoilers)

JECKI MY BEAUTIFUL BABY GIRL NOOOO NOT JECKI SHE WAS SO GOOD AND NOW AHES GONE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGHHHHHHHHH

YORD DESERVED A BETTER DEATH I MEAN HE SHOULDNT HAVE DIED AND ESPECIALLY NOT IN THAT WAY

OH THE HEAD TILT NOT THE HEAD TILT HIS CALM VOICE IS SO UNNERVING his outfit's cool though

JECKI 😭 😭 😭

yo Vernestra's lightsaber is cool like WHOA it's purple aND a lightwhip heck yEaH

sOL WHAT ARE YOU DOING WHAT ARE YOU DOING WHAT ARE YOU DOING OH MY POOR GUY

secrets secrets so many secrets

uNkNoWn PlAnEt (which by the way is beautiful)

THEY DID NOT HAVE TO JUMPSCARE ME WITH JECKI LIKE THAT GRAHHH 😭

Bro said scrub a dub dub (how old is he bruh)

Bazil is a silly little guy

THE MUSIC SLAPS HECK yEAH

SOL SOL SOL SOL SOL SOL SOL SOL SOL SOL SOL SOL SOL SOL

Okay bye I'll just be cryin about the fallen and slain again