#JatP Theory

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In Perfect Harmony, there's a lyric that goes "We come to life when we're in perfect harmony". At the end of Stand Tall, the band holds out a note in harmony. This is why the ghosts become tangible: they came to life because they were in perfect harmony with Julie. In this essay I will

[innytoes]

Between looking up houses in LA on zillow for a fanfic and researching how US medical debt works for that same fic, I have concluded that Ray Molina is a hit man.

[superficialmalewife]

julie and the phantoms theory:

idk how to word it but like after ray went through reggie in the studio reggie became like attached yk? and then when luke went through julie in the kitchen they js kinda like stared at each other and that's like when it really changed so like what if when a ghost passes thru a lifer it like connects them? idk tho

[fandomscraziness22]

i am once again begging tv shows to give your show a coherent timeline please and thank you

[trying414]

WAIT! if you can concentrate all your energy into your hands to be able to interact with things, why can't you do the same to hold a hand or concentrate it all into your lips to kiss someone? I'm just saying...Juke could have happened. 🤷‍♀️

[nebula-lad]

I feel like this makes so much sense with Julie’s dialogue in the first few episodes and her reactions to things. Like:

Right after she finds the boys and runs away, she tells Ray she saw something like ghosts in the studio. The way he reacts is that he dismisses it, like he’s heard this a hundred times before. He then mentions seeing her therapist again, and she immediately drops it.

When she really meets the boys, she can’t believe it and says “Nope, no way, there’s no such thing as cute ghosts”, like she’s reminding herself if something she’s been told before.

When the boys suggest Julie tell Ray about them, she freaks out and says she can’t because Ray will make her go back to her therapist.

She also warms up incredibly quickly to the ghost himbos (quicker than a ‘normal’ person would), her family and friends aren’t too surprised when they learn she’s in a ghost band, Ray’s reactions to Carlos’ ghost hunting are also like he’s heard this stuff a billion times before, and the whole thing with Jukebox.

Had it ever occurred to anyone else that Julie could have been seeing ghosts all her life and just not known? Like, if Julie saw someone in a ballgown, or a flapper dress, who looked extremely out of place in the modern world, she could have just thought, “That’s LA for you.” She could have been seeing this stuff all her life and just dismissed it as special effects, or a promotional stunt. Even a ghost walking through someone could be dismissed as a projection, or even just “I did not get enough sleep, god I need a coffee.”

[hopeurokays]

are we getting season 2 of jatp or did charlie get a luke haircut?

are we getting season 2 of jatp or did madi just say she "channeled her inner julie" for her new song?

are we getting season 2 of jatp or did charlie post a picture of the beach from jatp with "this band is back" playing over it?

are we getting season 2 of jatp or did kenny just put the jatp account back in his bio?

are we getting season 2 of jatp or did savannah make a tiktok about how our theories are making her believe it's coming back?

are we getting season 2 of jatp or is the jatp fandom just coming back to life???

[inspiredjatp]

I am in my Jatp era again and I can’t stop making theories.

What happened to Reggie’s and Alex’s parents?

All we know is that Reggie’s parents were fighting and that Alex’s parents didn’t really agree with Alex’s sexuality.

But, Whatever happens makes clear that Alex’s parents weren’t abusive, just in shock. They were distant but I am sure they still loved him.

Reggie’s parents weren’t abusive either. He really wanted to see them again. I assume their fights were about a cheating situation (because Reggie was always saying that “Ray is the best dad” “Well, he is a dad” things like that)

In Whatever Happens we learn that Reggie has a brother: Steve, which is younger than him (we never knew exactly the age, but I assume he was around 9-10 when Reggie died, I don’t know, I just feel it). What happened to him? In the book is mentioned that Reggie was Steve’s model. In my mind, he became a rock star to fulfil his brother’s dream.

And what about Bobby? He never talked to Reggie’s Alex’s and Luke’s anymore? Just vanished? That’s really weird (but I have another theory in my mind)

In conclusion, I miss Julie and the phantoms…

[leavememorieshere]

Yknow, there’s rumors going around of Julie and The Phantoms coming back for a season 2 which would be coming to Disney+ if I had to guess (and with a few people’s opinion/theory??) but it’s not actually confirmed yet.

But if I’m being honest, I’m sort of scared for the people who love Jatp because I’ve seen a few clips of the show and if it’s actually true that Disney+ will pick the show up,

I pray, because knowing Disney, they will not let some things fly.

Like I Know Julie and the phantoms is a show for kids so they wouldn’t show or do things that are not kid friendly but Disney would take that on a whole new level of kid friendly-ness.

Also it’s Disney+, PLUS, so I don’t think people should be that worried but you never know man 🤷.

[narcissusbrokenmirror]

I think about the theory of Willie and Flynn being related just. So Much.

Considering the idea that Willie died in the 80's, just consider the possibility of him having a little sister, who's that? Misha.

Flynn's mom, only mentioned on the Whatever Happens book, written by Candace Bufford, her description is of a black woman with dreadlocks and a tie-dye dress, having a preference for earth tones like brown and green, having a house filled to the brim with plants and taste for vegetarian based cuisine (they're not vegans tho) and owner of a boutique in Melrose. (Wherever that is.) Where Julie gets her quinces dress.

So just imagine baby Misha and teen Willie having like this lock and key matching set and Willie died with his one, while Misha prefered to pass her to Flynn, who instead of wearing on a necklace like Willie, rather wears with chains, bc shes a fashionista like that.

Which could even mean he can have her last name. Which one ever that might be. And yes my only basis for this is her alternative dress style with locks and tie-dyes. But i am free.

Flynn wears a lock and Willie wears a key. What does it mean????

[fandomscraziness22]

20 Questions for Writers

tagged by @legolasghosty thank you friend!!!!

1. How many works do you have on AO3?

88!! that's crazy!

2. What's your total AO3 word count?

257,528 which is also freaking insane

3. What fandoms do you write for?

lots of different ones! i have the most for julie and the phantoms, but also lockwood and co, the bright sessions, and jurassic world: camp cretaceous/chaos theory. i do have ones for leverage, the flash, the 100, and a few others i think

4. What are your top 5 fics by kudos?

love came crashing in (lco)

Butterflies and Glitter (jatp)

it's like this heart is defenseless (lco)

watching is worse (the second time around) (jatp)

stand up when it's all crashing down (pjo)

5. Do you respond to comments?

I try to! i used to be much better at always responding, but now i can't always muster up the energy to do it

6. What is the fic you wrote with the angstiest ending?

literally all of them???? uhhhhh for jatp i've killed just about everyone but the most unmentionable ones are learn to live with the unimaginable (carlos) and i miss the days when (luke survives). for lockwood it's probs but the wolves came and went (and we're still standing) aka my torture fic. one of my personal favs is my flash fic, Betrayal (Or, how he finds out) ALSO ALMOST FORGOT i thought i was innocent (but there is blood all on my hands) for bright sessions!!

7. What's the fic you wrote with the happiest ending?

i do happen to have some fluff fics!!! you are alive. is one of my favs of my jatp ones, and what a glorious feeling (i'm happy again) for lockwood. also shoutout to i need you like water for my happy green boys kissing in the rain

8. Do you get hate on fics?

nope! i think i maybe sorta did once, but i just screenshotted it to share with my friends and laugh about it lol

9. Do you write smut? If so, what kind?

no, but im not opposed to someday doing it. the closest i've gotten is i hate you i love you (i hate that i want you) for bright sessions or what a glorious feeling for locklyle

10. Do you write crossovers?

i sorta did once, but that fic is abandoned. i tend to do more of aus "just the one scene" combining my fav things, but not really crossovers

11. Have you ever had a fic stolen?

Not that I know of

12. Have you ever had a fic translated?

Nope, though i wouldn't be opposed!

13. Have you ever co-written a fic before?

yes! me and @anthonyjlockwood have our club au series for jatp, and then our green boys fluff come meet me at the end of the (cereal) aisle

14. What's your all-time favorite ship?

oh i cannot ever pick!!! percabeth is a childhood fav, elias/laia from an ember in the ashes (my favorite book of all time), bellarke (i refuse to believe rothenburg on that), juke and locklyle and green boys and nahri/ali from the daveabad trilogy (i love them)

15. What's a WIP you want to finish but doubt you will?

joan helps caleb actually!!! i wanted to change how college tapes went, but idk if it's gonna happen. i just want joan to set caleb straight lol

16. What are your writing strengths?

physical injuries/angst is what i'm best at! also comign up with teh most niche of au ideas but only for one scene and nothing else lol

17. What are your writing weaknesses?

i wish i could write flowery language and amazing metaphors, but alas, i cannot

18. Thoughts on writing dialogue in another language in fic?

i've only really done it for jatp which i feel like was what everyone was doing in that era? idk, i try not to do it too often. tho i do still really want to include sign language into a fic because i actually know that

19. First fandom you wrote for?

the 100, though i wrote some of my own stuff for Lost and Narnia before that

20. Favorite fic you've written?

can't pick, and i've mentioned a lot fo my favs already. i'll give a shoutout to i know where i belong, my leverage parker happy feels fic, and i keep getting better at slowly getting worse my habor crest fic for caleb and mark!

tagging @sabetha and @anthonyjlockwood and anyone else who wants to do it!

[crybabyddl]

Just finished my rewatch of jatp. My perfrct track record of not crying during Unsaid Emily remains untouched. I will say though, I was very close to shedding a tear this time. However, I didn’t even cry during Stand Tall! I always cry during Stand Tall!

Anyways, I couldn’t stop thinking about all the headcanons and theories that us tumblr fantoms created and the little easter eggs we discovered while watching and rewatching the series. It makes me really appreciative of the fact that we had a sense of community during a time where a lot of us were alone, scared, and uninspired. Just like Julie, I felt a renewed sense of purpose and hope. I think that a lot of people felt the same after watching the show. Julie and the Phantoms is what inspired me to learn the piano, the ukulele, and it led me to getting a guitar. When I learned how to play the chords for the soundtrack, I was playing those songs nonstop. It really helped me brave through the unsure feelings that came along with the pandemic. It made me forget my fears about the future.

I don’t feel as hopeful about things as I did back then, but JATP will always be a land-marking point in my life. It represents newfound joy, reignited passion, and abundant vivacity. As someone who loves and is extremely passionate about music, this silly little netflix show really hit me in the most sensitive places. And while I remember having a bout of serious depression after finishing the series, (along with intense rage that while I was dealing with my depression at its lowest point, the cast of jatp was living what felt like my dream) the lessons I learned from the show were far more significant. It literally brought music back into my life, no joke.

The friends I made because of JATP will always have a special place in my heart. A lot of them don’t use tumblr anymore, and I don’t use it nearly as much as I used to, but I’m still so grateful to have been introduced to such kind, accepting, and funny people. The stories, theories, headcanons, fanfictions, moodboards, inside jokes, memes, and fanart we created will always be remembered and cherished. I’m still pro-cheesecake, I’m still highly allergic to sleeves, and every time I see an unnecessary or fake zipper, I think of my fellow tumblr fantoms.

I don’t think I’ll ever truly “get over” Julie and the Phantoms. It was the first thing that truly resonated with my spirit as a new adult. I was 19 and had dropped out of college, feeling completely lost and like I had nothing going for me. Going into lockdown because of the pandemic didn’t help with any of that, and I was aimlessly, endlessly scrolling on social media, hoping to find meaning and purpose. And one day, my friend posted a clip on snapchat of what she was watching on netflix. The guy was cute and it looked like him and the girl he was next to had a nice connection so I asked what show it was. That’s how I discovered JATP, almost 2 weeks after its release. I also just have an unhealthy attachment to the show and the characters so I refuse to let this media that speaks to my soul die.

All that being said, we really deserved another season. I think it would cure me entirely, if I’m being honest. Even if it was just a little Christmas special where they decorate a tree and do those mini stories like filler episodes of a cartoon series. Hell, I’d settle for an animated JATP episode. I just think we all deserve it after what we’ve been through not only as a fandom, but as human beings. I will never forgive netflix for it’s terrible job at promoting, because they only failed when it came to this show specifically. They managed to keep every other show, even ones far less deserving of acclaim and attention, afloat during and after the pandemic. The only reason JATP managed to get anywhere was solely the cast, creators, and fans. Paul Becker was on fucking overdrive, churning out BTS videos WEEKLY. Fanfiction writers were bursting at the seams with multi-chapter series and one shots about every possible scenario. We got things trending on twitter during the two most chronically online years. Fanart was being shared like crazy, and we had the instagram fantoms so confused by the memes that they retaliated and claimed they were superior.

Meanwhile, tumblr was in its shadowbanning era, and fantoms were in the TRENCHES trying to get their content to reach beyond mutuals and taglists. We received barely any appreciation, except for when we trended on twitter asking to renew jatp and on tumblr for jatp appreciation week. Let’s not forget when we thought Owen had a secret tumblr and we all started accusing each other of being him. I will never forget when we all rallied to get Madi to 1 million followers because we didn’t want her to become overshadowed by the boys and all the attention they were getting. We all watched their instagram lives and I will always love the tumblr fantoms who made gifs of the cutest moments from those. Everyone saw me shamelessly simp over Charlie with facial hair wearing a santa onesie. We created a whole Carrie redemption arc out of thin air, we created origin stories for Rose and the Petal Pushers, and we forced the creators of JATP to give us the official last names of Reggie, Alex, and Flynn (This adventure SPECIFICALLY!!!) We were ruthless in our efforts to uncover their last names. We used breadcrumbs to make theories and speculations, only to end up begging in every comment section and dm inbox we could to get Reggie Peters, Alex Mercer, and eventually—though much, much later—Flynn Taylor. We gave Willie more crop tops, we basically storyboarded a second season, complete with episode titles and songs! We uncovered the Sunset Curve EP using the grainiest photos in existence, we created a loose timeline surrounding everyone’s birthdays, deaths, and significant events. We orchestrated a fucking CONCERT TOUR for this band. Oh, and let’s not forget when Kenny and the boys went to Hawaii. That Hawaii trip was so eventful for the fantoms, you have no idea how serious I’m being unless you were there for it. That was something unlike anything else for so many reasons. There’s a lot more, but that’s the stuff that came to mind immediately.

[juliathephantom]

guys i might have just come up with the greatest jatp headcanon of all time

so you know the theory that luke's trans and wrote my name is luke to come out?

nope

he didn't

he came out with, like, actual words

my name is luke is about how annoying it is when parents full-name you when you're in trouble

[mouse-fantoms]

…what if it was the closed CD case 👁️👁️👁️ bc they only appear once that disc was played which brings up another point too. We never saw Julie take out the disc… which is a whole other can of worms that I have indeed thought about

so what was that dark room that the boys were in for 25 years? was there anyone else in there? did anyone else know about it? does everyone go there after they die in the JATP universe or is it only for those who become ghosts?

[randomestfandoms-ocs]

Are there specific fandoms that you're trying to do the 💙 game for?

I mean all of them, for sure, but also yes! My starting point has been to try to go with the fandoms where every oc already has a title, in theory so that once I update the images, they won't need any more updates (except new ocs of course), which was really mostly just to give myself an easier goal than updating all of my masterlists

so the list so far is:

Descendants (still 6 fics left to title but almost done!!)

Supernatural

Whoverse

JATP

Stranger Things

Gallagher Girls

The Good Place

Hunger Games

[ Gotham ] (chrissa still needs a title oops I didn'trealize that until Friday)

It

Maze Runner

Miraculous Ladybug

Outer Banks

Schmigadoon / Shmicago

RWRB was on the list but thanks to @ginevrastilinski-ocs it's now all done and the masterlist has been updated!

(my other goal rn is to finish finding fic titles for all of my Descendants, Gossip Girl, Gossip Girl 2021, and PJO fics and then I can add them to the list)

[leclerc-drives-in-circles]

theory: within the next year or so the entire jatp cast and then some will start leaking secret 'season 1' bts clips but their really from the secret season 2 that Kenny ortega is inevitably working on rn